Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Hi, good evening. Andy Brick from the Brick Law Firm on behalf of the applicant, Brunswick Road Development. This is, as your attorney had mentioned, it's a proposed 25-lot subdivision, 24 building lots, one stormwater lot. It is located immediately west of Heatheridge Road or for Brunswick Road. It's approximately 41-acre parcel. This application has been before you previously. In 2024, you approved this exact subdivision as designed. That approval was extended a number of times, and then it lapsed because it wasn't reapproved within the mandatory timeframe. There was a delay working with National Grid to obtain the easement that was required as a condition of the original approval. So we started the process again, and we are seeking reapproval of the exact same project. There have been no changes to the parcel. There's been no changes to the property or the design of the subdivision. and we'd just be seeking a reapproval of the prior subdivision approval. This property is the subject of a PDD approval that was granted in 2019 to allow the density that we're proposing, the 24 lots, There were a number of conditions on your original approval that we have no objection to them being considered for any future re-approval. However, some of them have been complied with. For example, one of the conditions was to get a water district extension and a stormwater district extension. Both of those things have taken place, but we have no objection to any of those conditions being placed upon this re-approval. We're here this evening to hear any comments or concerns that the board may have or the public. And with that, I would turn it over back to the board and the public.

Do you have your maps?

The map.

So the public can see what they're doing.

Yes, we, Kevin had asked me to turn it to them. So, yeah. Oh, sorry. Yes, it's, I can briefly go over it if you'd like. Sure. Yeah. I was trying to catch up both the board and the public, but the board said, give it to you guys. So here it is. So to orient you, this is State Route 2, Brunswick Road here. This is the intersection to Heather Ridge Road. And then this is the North Arrow going that way. So slightly west of Heather Ridge is our proposed Boulevard entrance. The stormwater pond is at the entrance. And then the 24 lots are throughout. The property goes all the way through to the National Grid property. And we have the project includes a water easement underneath National Grid over to Riccardi Lane. And we have obtained the necessary easements. We recently received the necessary easement from National Grid. They received the Public Service Commission to approve it. We're just waiting on the signed version. So all of the easements for the water line that were required have been obtained. The other important thing to point out is that There's a large conservation area, a do not disturb, do not build, forever wild area to the east of the property on bordering the back of the Heather Ridge Lots. And that is a no build, no development area. And there are some Army Corps wetlands within that area. It's a not disturb. All of the construction will take place above that. And that will be forever wild and deed restricted. And that is, we recently, as of July, got an updated Army Corps jurisdictional letter confirming that we cannot go into those wetlands, but Army Corps is okay with it because they are part of the conservation area. So they will be permanently preserved. And like I said, we're here to answer any questions, address any concerns with the board or the, I can't answer them directly. You can come up and address them to the board.

My name is Steve Angle, by the way. I live at East Road in Brunswick Hills. He mentioned the green area that is next to the Highlands that is not to be developed. He did not mention towards the Brunswick Hills area where all that green area is going up the hill, and that was addressed the first time around. The other thing I see in a difference between this was modified once because I think they reduced a couple properties. This That's right away or road or whatever it is. I'd like to understand what that is. I'm told that that's a utility right away for a potential future water line. But for everybody who looks at this on a piece of paper, who takes a look at our neighborhood, it looks like a potential road that comes into Brunswick Hills. And that doesn't sit well, obviously. I've been told several times it's not a road, but I want to bring it up and just be part of it. And I guess that's the two things that came to mind. The green space next to Brunswick Hills and how we're addressing that utility right away.

Thank you.

Okay.

We got it done and then you can submit them in writing.

Yeah, we got it.

NEXT. ANY OTHER CONCERNED CITIZENS? CAN YOU POINT OUT... WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SORRY. HARRIETTE BORTON, HILLTOP ROAD ON BRUNSWICK HILLS. CAN YOU POINT OUT WHERE EAST ROAD ON BRUNSWICK HILLS IS AND TELL ME WHETHER THERE'S ANY WOODLANDS LEFT IN BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND BRUNSWICK

And this area is conserved, the conservation area, the previous question. All this inside the conservation area. This would be because it's conservation area bound to . Yes, this is all local.

Good evening, Jim Tachek, 387 Brunswick Road. I think it's a real public safety hazard on Route 2 with this project, which can be worked around. It's not something that's irreversible. The Route 2 right here, as you know, from the top of the hill coming down toward Eagle Mills, there's a passing lane. If you're in the left-hand lane, going toward Eagle Mills, you have the, there's a passing lane going down the hill. The lane starts at approximately, I can't remember the, about 223 Brunswick Road, which is right up here. And it carries on for about 800 feet down past the entrance to the development. Development is about, from that reference point, I said that 223, it's about 600 feet. So that goes another 200 feet beyond the entrance to Brunswick Acres. And the trouble with that, well, first off, the speed limit there is 55, and that's the nominal speed limit. The actual speeds can be much higher than that, right? And it's heavily used. I know that. I'm about a mile away down toward Engel's Farm. And I travel this very frequently. The passing lane is heavily used. The trouble is, if you can imagine, somebody starts a pass. They see nothing coming up. They're going down the hill. They see no traffic coming up the hill. They're in the left-hand lane going down the hill. If somebody pulls out of... the development entryway, right, they're gonna, they wanna make a right hand turn, they're gonna look left, right? They're not gonna look right for things coming down that hill in their lane, because that's just the way, the habits of driving, right? So I think that's a real serious problem. If someone, if there's, obviously, if there's somebody coming down in that lane, and they're turning into that lane from development, they're gonna have a serious collision. So like I said, that entryway, or that, THE ENTRYWAY OF THE DEVELOPMENT ROAD IS SMACKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT PASSING LANE. THAT'S A SERIOUS CONCERN HERE. I don't know if they've made any discussions with DOT about this, but obviously the thing that one of the things could be done to remediate this is to remove that passing lane. Get rid of that passing lane through there altogether. OK, and the other thing is to lower the speed limit down through there, but 65 miles an hour or 60 miles an hour, 88 feet a second that people are flying down there.

OK.

And then also in concern with discussions with DOT, what sort of disruption is there going to be on Route 2 during the construction, especially as they start building the road up into the development? I don't know if there's going to be a temporary speed reduction, if there's going to be lane shifts or lanes narrowing. THEY'RE GOING TO BE FLAGMENT ON DUTY DURING THIS THIS I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAY HAVE BEEN DECIDED ALREADY I I DON'T KNOW I EVEN KEPT TRACK OF THIS OKAY AND THEN ANOTHER ANOTHER UH ITEM I I THINK THERE'S SOME UH UNSUITABLE BUILDING LOTS HERE FOR EXAMPLE UH LOT SEVEN AND WHAT EIGHT If you look at that in the plans in the building department, it shows that these things have really substantial retaining walls behind them. The houses sit like so, and they have like a trapezoidal retaining wall, right? That sort of wraps around the house from the uphill side, right? The number seven The retaining wall is 15 feet tall, plus the safety fence. Quite a structure there. And number eight, it's lower, it's eight feet plus the fence. But also the distance between the house and the retaining wall. Now I'm assuming that these plots were accurate in the building department. I measured that the distance from the house to the retaining wall is 20 feet in lot number seven. That's a really shallow backyard. That's not much more from the chairs up to that wall. And then also in the details, in the construction details, in the plans that had at the base, you know, behind the wall, there was a drainage pipe sitting down at the bottom of that. I didn't see on the plans where that drainage pipe exits, discharges its water. In other words, where is that water going to go? What's the path of that water that's going to go from that retaining wall to the retention pond if it has to get to the retention pond? I don't know. It's not clear on the plans. I don't know who's responsible for the maintenance of these walls. I don't know if it's the homeowner or if there's an HOA or whatever organization type thing. And then also in the... AREA OF STORM WATER ALSO THERE ON THE DOWNHILL SIDE DOWN HERE THERE QUITE QUITE A FEW WHERE THEY CALL bio-retention basins, right? There seems to be like little divots in the ground, right? I don't know the depths of these. I'm not sure, I'm not familiar with these. I don't know how deep they would be or how large they would be. But a question I would have is whether you can ride a riding lawnmower down into these things comfortably, if you can get down and out of them. Because if you can't, the people are going to want to fill these things in. And that's the other things. How, what prevents the homeowner from filling these in? those bioretention bases. And I don't know, but for these, for example, lot seven and eight, you know, for lot seven, you have a, I assume to be a two-story house. You have this 15-foot retention wall, 20 feet away, you don't have very much view out of the back. You're looking right at a concrete block wall, all right? This is something you're probably more used to seeing in New York City or in some canyon somewhere, okay? I don't know. It seems like a, I'm not sure what prices that you're planning to get for these, but it seems like a very expensive feature for a very pricey property, okay? Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else have a comment?

Michael O'Connor, 27 Riccardi Lane.

Jenny O'Connor, 27 Riccardi Lane.

So my questions are, we are, Riccardi, we are the house that's closest to where the cul-de-sac is going to be, the circle at the end, but our property goes up to the NIMO land. So I've heard something about water being connected to Riccardi. And is that the sewer or is that fresh water? Is it going to connect to the electricity? Riccardi, every one of our houses has a individual grinder pump and we all push literally push the crap up the hill to the main water area by walmart so is that going to be is the sewer connecting to us because that's going to be a lot more connecting in and pushing up that hill that's going to tax our systems um or are they going to put it are they going to create their own um neighborhood-wide grinder system, which then we could tap into and then relieve our burdens. It's always been a concern, and I know you've said it's never going to happen, but is there any way there's going to be access off the northern exit where the cul-de-sac is to get to Route 2, I'm sorry, to Hoosick Street somehow, whether it's through Riccardi or through the Price Shopper or something else? ARE THEY GOING TO BE PUTTING IN STREET LIGHTS THAT CAN AFFECT US WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING THESE THINGS AT NIGHT BECAUSE THEY'VE CUT DOWN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TREES AND THERE'S WE CAN SEE INTO WHAT'S GOING TO BE THIS LAND THIS HOUSE OF COMMUNITY IF IT GOES THROUGH AND OR IS THERE ANY MORE PLANS TO CUT DOWN ANY MORE TREES AND FINALLY does this property actually go right up to the NIMO road, you know, the act, their easement, their road there, or is there a fresh land there that can still be bought by somebody else or used somewhere else?

And to just tap on to that, I'm just curious how far it goes in because our property goes almost up to that national grid road and they would be our backyard. So does the building go all the way up to it with the back? Or are they going to be putting any more trees in behind that to give any kind of blockage from the peace and quiet of our neighborhood at a dead end cul-de-sac that we have happily been living in? Because when they cut all those trees down, we could actually hear them and see all the trees falling. And it was devastating. And it was years ago now at this point, but it's, we have a clear view back as, as Michael was saying, and it's, uh, it's a huge deal to, to us. And I know we're just one house and one property, but our neighbors as well. Um, and it's, uh, It's a huge deal. So is there anything going to be built? How close is it actually coming to that national grid road? And are they gonna do anything to plant more trees or anything in between that to provide some blockage between that? I think so. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Next.

Hi, I'm Andy Gunther and 20 Middle Hill Road, Brunswick Hills. Lived in Brunswick Hills off and on since I was three and that was a while ago. Brunswick is my home. I just want to support the gentleman who is encouraging the reduction of the legal speed along that stretch. When I come out of Brunswick Hills, and this has been true for years, I peek out. Let's say I'm going to make a right on Route 2 to go downtown Troy. AND THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHEN THE VALENTI TRUCKS AND JUST OTHER CARS COME SCREAMING AROUND, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A BLIND CURVE, IS WHAT IT IS. IN ONE INSTANCE WHERE I CAME OUT AND A GUY WAS GOING SO FAST THAT HE DUCKED INTO THE ONCOMING LANE TO AVOID BACK REAR ENDING ME AND THEN TUCK IN IN FRONT OF ME. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ONTO ROUTE TWO, BUT JUST speed and you know in the straightaway gives you the idea that you're lebanon valley or something and uh so if that legally could be reduced uh i don't know what is it 55 now maybe i don't know 45 something like that might make a difference um JUST FOR SAFETY. AND THERE HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS OVER THE DECADES THAT I'VE BEEN THERE. NOT TOO OFTEN, BUT ENOUGH. BUT IT'S KIND OF TERRIFYING TO EXIT BRUNSWICK HILLS AND THEN YOU GOT TO STEP ON THE GAS TO MAKE THAT RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

NEW SPEAKER ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST THE PROJECT? There's no more comments. Make a motion to close the public hearing.

I'll make a motion. I'll second. All in favor? Aye.

Okay. And you'll be first. Okay. And can I just, I might've caused some unnecessary fear by misspeaking. So can I just clarify for the board and for the public? The conservation area is also on the Brunswick Hill side of the project. I should have mentioned that. And I believe the last approval specifically said that that access way could never be used as a road. We have no objection to that being a condition of any future reapproval. So thank you.

FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO DO IS REVIEW THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 4TH MEETING. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NONE, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. IS THERE A SECOND?

I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE REGULAR MEETING AND YOU CAN CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING AND BRING IN YOUR ANSWERS AND COMMENTS?

NEW SPEAKER Yeah, IF I COULD JUST CONFIRM THAT, WILL SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN PROVIDE TO US A COPY OF THE MINUTES SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE RESPOND TO EVERY QUESTION AND CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED? NEW SPEAKER SURE. NEW SPEAKER EXCELLENT. AND THEN I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THIS EVENING BECAUSE THAT'S A PRIORITY, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS OF THE PUBLIC.

All your lots are septic.

Correct.

There's no sewer.

No, there's no proposed sewer. We're not connecting. That easement is specifically for water. That's all National Grid authorized. The idea of going back to ask National Grid for anything is not something my client's going to be willing to do. I can guarantee that. It's a water easement. And it's drinking water. It's not storm water. It's not sewage water. It's a drinking water line so they can loop the system.

A good city of flowing water.

Yep. Thank you all. Appreciate it. Two weeks is fine. Yeah, we can be back. We can come back. If we would be off in the next meeting, we can have responses prepared and submitted. Absolutely.

Thank you.

Thank you all.

Thank you. We're going to review Project Mavis Tire on Hoosick Road and then Burger King and some amendments to the site plan.

FOR THE RECORD, KEVIN HICKSON WITH BO COMPANIES, 355 RESEARCH PARKWAY, MERRITT IN CONNECTICUT. TONIGHT WE'RE HERE, WE SENT IN LAST FRIDAY RESPONSE TO COMMENTS, PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED SOME RENDERINGS LAST FRIDAY OF THE PROPOSED MAVIS TIRE. I HAVE A BLOW UP OF THIS AREA, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHOW IN THIS RENDERING AN UPDATED AERIAL AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE RENDERINGS AS WELL. get to that. As you know, Mohawk Avenue is to the east, Fiat Avenue is to the north, Roosevelt Avenue is to the west, and we're abutting Hoosick Avenue adjacent from the quick stop across the east of Mohawk Avenue. So this, as you know, we I'LL JUST REMIND THE BOARD, ON MONDAY NIGHT WE WENT TO ZVA, WE GOT THE AREA VARIANCES APPROVED FOR REAR BUILDING SETBACK ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND A DUMPSTER SETBACK OF ABUTTING A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. AND SO WE GOT THAT APPROVED MONDAY NIGHT BY THE ZVA. And tonight we're looking to present to the board what we have presented as far as our changes and addressing the public comments from the last meeting, which was a joint meeting of ZBA and planning. And also go through one of the requests was a parking waiver by the planning board for because 23 spaces are required. But we because of the shift of the building, because of the water vault, we're down to 20 parking spaces now. And so we would request that from the planning board as part of our application. So this view is the looking eastbound. You can see the The tall retaining wall of the adjacent property. There's some construction that was going on. These pictures were taken back in, I believe it was April of this year. And then here we have provided an updated rendering. With the retaining wall, there's the pump out that shows up here where the water vault is. We provided some landscaping in between the sidewalk and the retaining wall. There's enough of a buffer strip that we can add that additional plantings to soften the wall. And we've also shown the Mavis Tire sign that's right on the corner of Hoosick and Mohawk Avenue. And if you look in relative elevation, right, have uh five the six foot high retaining wall six foot is probably closer down to to this elevation uh it gets uh lower as you get to this side with the uh four foot uh fence on top and both the wall and the fence combined are uh somewhat equal to the the height of just the wall of the adjacent property so this isn't even showing the fence that was on top of there which i don't I recall off the top of my head what the height of that fence was on the adjacent property. But just to give you in terms of elevation of this retaining wall and the adjacent property to the west, having that smaller modular block, we would be simulating that smaller block versus the larger block of the adjacent development. This view is looking westbound along Hoosick. Again, this is the retaining wall. Galvin's house is back here. And then this is the existing dentist office along Hoosick. And this is an updated rendering, again, showing that bump out, which would be further down on the retaining wall. Here's the Mavis tire sign. And then As you come around the building, you can see the grade going up for this with the additional widening that we're going to be providing from 24 feet or from 20 feet to 24 feet to add to help with the school buses that we understand have some trouble navigating up there. So we're trying to widen that. There will be a sidewalk across the street on Mohawk Avenue going up the street. that goes into the adjacent development. And then you can just see the top of the dumpster enclosure right here, and then just make out the tops of the trees that will be at the back with the six foot high fence so that the elevation goes up And I projected that in about five years, the trees will basically be screening because they're all evergreen trees. They'll be screening the entire building in five years because they're brought two feet a year. And so we planted, I believe it's 26 trees back there. So we're looking forward to that. you know, getting that in, thinning, you know, some of the, we did a tree survey for this property. There were 19 trees identified as alive. Three of them were actually dead within the property. So we conducted the tree inventory here and we're going to be providing 39 trees, which would be a net of 20 additional trees that'll be added to the site with the majority abutting the rear property line, THAT'S THE GALVIN'S THAT ARE TO THE NORTH. LET ME KEEP THAT UP. I DON'T KNOW IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ME TO RUN THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS. OR AT LEAST WHAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED. THE GALVIN'S FIRST COMMENT BASED ON THE MEETING DURING AUGUST 6TH. Previous construction had workers starting early in the morning on weekends and on holidays. Neighbors would like to have the workers adhere to set construction times. What we have done for this application, there's a note sheet GN1. And on note 119, we've put the construction time from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Saturday. THEIR NEXT COMMENT THEY HAD WAS DURING CONSTRUCTION, WORKERS SHOULD NOT PARK ON MOHAWK AVENUE OR NEARBY LAWNS. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A GENERAL NOTE ON THE PLANS. AGAIN, SAME SHEET, SHEET GN-1, GENERAL NOTE 120 INDICATING AS SUCH NO PARKING OFF-SITE DURING CONSTRUCTION. AND IN TALKING WITH THE ZVA, ITEMS THAT GET ADDED TO PLANS. are enforceable by the building department. So this is a catalyst or a way to help with the concern that the Galpins had when we go, if we get approval and the site goes under construction. Number three, there will be increased sound due to the business being open seven days a week, 90 to 105 decibels. The neighbors are concerned about not having any days off. We have designed the building with the bays facing toward Hoosick. ROAD, AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, IT WOULD BE BAYS THAT MIGHT BE OPEN, RIGHT, FOR AIR CIRCULATION. SO WE ARE COGNIZANT OF THAT, BUT WE TRIED TO KEEP ALL THE BAYS FACING WHOSIC ROAD.

NEW SPEAKER THIS LETTER STATES THAT IT'S FACING GLOBAL. AM I READING THAT WRONG?

NEW SPEAKER YES, YOU ARE. IT SHOULD BE WHOSIC. THANK YOU. The number four was increased traffic through Mohawk Avenue, which is a small street. What we've done on the site plan SP1 is we've revised to add a local traffic only sign on the Mohawk Avenue on the east side. So the idea here is As you pull out, if you were to take a left onto Mohawk Avenue, the sign would be, and I think it's on the SB1, it's not showing up here, but we've added a sign to say local through traffic only so that any motorist would see that sign and then have that relief to take a right into the quick stop. SO WE'VE ADDED THAT AND WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE TOWN ON THE BEST LOCATION FOR THAT WITHIN THE RIGHT-O-WAY.

NEW SPEAKER THAT'S NOT YOUR SIGN ON YOUR PROPERTY. IT WOULD BE THE TOWN PUTTING THE SIGN UP.

NEW SPEAKER YEAH, BUT WITHIN THE RIGHT-O-WAY OF THE TOWN. They'd like a timeline for repairs for any construction damages. Galvin's had some challenges with the construction across the street and getting repairs to be made in a timely manner. The applicant is receptive to the repair from construction damages within five days during construction, as noted on sheet GN1, note 121. AND SO WE'VE PROVIDED THAT AS PART OF THE UPDATED PLAN SET THAT YOU HAVE. MR. JIM, DID I PRONOUNCE THAT RIGHT? OKAY. HE HAD A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. One of his comments was the project is eliminating vegetation and replacing with asphalt, which is destroying the character of the neighborhood. Again, I had stated before we did do a tree survey. There are 19 trees on there. However, the development is going to be proposing a total of 39 trees, 35 evergreen and four deciduous trees. 149 shrubs, 15 ornamental grasses, and 31 perennials. In terms of drainage, there is a 10.2% increase in impervious area from existing to proposed conditions from the dentist office to the Mavis Tire. And the development is proposing to treat that stormwater with bioretention techniques of taking the roof drain, roof drainage to the back to the north and have that come around on a vegetated swale, which I think I have right here. So this is the bioretention area where the roof will go to the north. And then any flow that comes from offsite will also get intercepted as well. And then is brought around through a swell that then comes through, bypasses the underground detention system to then go out to the catch basin that's connected out on, actually it's within the right-of-way, not actually on Hoosick Road, but within the right-of-way of Hoosick Road. And then the parking lot gets captured with three catch basins that we show here that then get conveyed through stormwater piping, through a hydrodynamic separator for the oil and the sediment, then into a underground detention system that is then released via outlet control structure into the state system. Again, we're reducing all the flows from the two to 100 year storm. and also using some bio retention techniques that we're able to do for the site. Existing condition now, obviously nothing exists for the site now, but we are making that effort with this application. The second comment Jim had was the imposing retaining wall will impact the visuals of the neighborhood. And as I had shown in the visual, The proposed retaining wall is five to six foot tall. It actually reduced with pushing the building back. And as you can see, compared to the adjacent property, we are trying to keep it in relative scale, which is relative to the property to the west. And so we're also providing that landscaping that I said on the south side of the retaining wall to soften that retaining wall that's in between the sidewalk and the retaining wall itself. There is no rendering of the wall in a power line sign advertising time for the public to judge the appearance of prior to construction. We have provided that here. Shows up right here. It's like a white pole basically with the Mavis Tire sign that's provided. Business leaving the garage doors open would increase the summer due to heat. Again, make that correction in my response. The building has been designed for the service base orientated toward Hoosick and away from the adjacent residential properties. which will help mitigate the operational noise impacts. And number five, with like sidewalks going up Mohawk for pedestrian safety, there is a sidewalk that goes up the east side of Mohawk Avenue with our widening that we're providing going from 20 feet to 24 foot. didn't afford us to provide a sidewalk on that side. Plus there's also utility poles that go up along that side and utilities in general. So it didn't afford us to provide that sidewalk, but there is a connection for sidewalk along Mohawk Avenue that connects to Hoosick Avenue.

Again, this letter states the west side, which should be the east side.

Yes. Thank you. uh number six the proposed school bus stops in the area the applicant is proposing to increase uh the width of mohawk from 20 feet to 24 feet to help with the turning movements of the school buses and then the planning board at that same meeting uh had a couple of comments and i'll just run through them quick i think they've already talked about them already Construction parking would be on the property and not on Mohawk Avenue. We've added that note 120, indicating as such no parking offsite during construction. Number two is adding to the plans the hours of construction are adhered to by construction workers. Construction time is 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., Monday through Saturday, revised on sheet GN1, general note 119. And these plans are enforceable by the building department. So if issues come up during construction, it, it is an enforceable, uh, item, uh, by the town, uh, would like to inquire about the possibility of maintaining the property, maintaining the property until construction begins. Um, The construction will begin immediately upon issuance of permit. We do have to get a New York State DOT permit. I did mention that to Mavis Tire, and they are in conversation with the current landowner, more of upkeep of the existing property of the dentist office. THROUGHOUT CONSTRUCTION, CONTRACTORS SHOULD BE CLEANING UP TRASH AND LITTER PRODUCED. NOTE 122 ON SHEET GN1 IS INDICATING THE REMOVAL OF TRASH AND LITTER ON A DAILY BASIS DURING CONSTRUCTION. And then there was a last item in this response to comment letter via email from the town regarding the Mavis Tower application. As you know, the applicant is requesting two area variances, rear setback and side setback in the application materials. However, there is no rendering of the dumpster. side setback, nor rendering of the fence or tree screening being proposed. Could you kindly ask the applicant for this additional material? We have provided the rendering and for clarifications, two area variances of rear building setback abutting a residential zone of 30 feet. We requested 25.2 feet with the ZBA. And then the dumpster enclosure rear setback is abutting a residential zone at 20 feet, requesting 14.7 feet. The dumpster enclosure will match the color of the Mavis tire. And the fence, like I said, it's a six foot solid fence at the rear of the property with the evergreen trees and the trees that will mature over time will be at the six to seven foot would be the trees at start of planting. And then over time at two foot a year, they should be able to screen the entire building. And we have provided on site details of that dumpster enclosure on sheet C1.01. Three sides of it will have the split face block to match the color of the building. And then a chain link fence with the black vinyl slats for screening. And then the renderings, like I said, the one that looks westbound, You can just make out the top of the dumpster enclosure. It's like this gray line that actually matches the top of this larger retaining wall that's across the street. What doesn't show here, again, is at least a four-foot fence that would be on top of this retaining wall. So that's what's not being depicted in this rendering since the pictures were taken while the site was under construction. and they can just make out the tops of the landscaping, which would be at first plantings that eventually over time are gonna be providing that screening to the back of the property. I'm gonna open it up with any questions that the planning board may have.

I think at a last meeting I had asked about the fence and the vinyl slat configuration. Did the owner agree to any other ideas for the fence that would be less industrial looking?

I haven't spoken to them about that, but we're open to working with the Galvans to You know, if there's a certain color that they wanted.

I'm not talking about the rear solid fence. That makes sense to me. But the front fence being chain link with a plastic slat in it?

No, this is actually going to be this whole entire fence that runs along the entire wall is more of a decorative ornamental screening fence. The only fence that's chain link with vinyl slats is the dumpster. Thank you. THE TREES WILL BE ON OUR PROPERTY AS WELL. SO IT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY. So the fence will be furthest north, abutting the Galvins, and then the trees will be on our side of the retaining wall. This picture right here, the Galvins, they have this almost like a horseshoe-shaped driveway that goes around their house. All of these trees, which are on their property, are evergreen and mature in nature. Those aren't being removed. It was more of the, on our property, it was more of unkept type trees. Some of them were like spruce trees, but a lot of it was kind of not really kept well. So really they're, you know, because they've been maintaining their property. So those trees are still staying there. Now we're supplementing that with additional, the majority of the trees there are going to be all evergreen. So that'll kind of tie into year round screening that will just supplement any view sheds that they'll have from their perspective.

So they will see trees and not the fence.

Yes, yes. Well, they'll see, yeah, they'll see their trees. They'll see whatever vegetation they have on their property, but they'll see the backside of the fence. And then over time, the trees will take over. And so it's the fence that's first, what they see before they see the trees.

Okay.

They have a little bit of lawn on the south side of their, from their house.

Correct. Yep, they do.

And then the trees.

Yep.

And you mentioned that you are still waiting on your DOT connection.

Yes. And I hear it's going to be fun times. Yes, we are in touch with them. And it's a drainage connection permit, right? Because the dentist office was originally tying into that catch basin. We're tying in, we're reducing the flows so it'll be less, the stormwater will be treated before entering into the state system. And again, that catch basin is actually located within more of the grass area after the sidewalk. So it would be in between the retaining wall and the sidewalk. And that's where we're making that connection. Just on the backside of that catch basin is where we'll be tying into.

And there's already a connection from the dentist's office to that catch basin?

Yeah, the dentist's office had a, I think it was a six-inch that tied into that, which was, I think it was more their roof drain overall. It might have been some, because I think it had a basement too.

How do we make out with the right-of-way for the pump station or whatever's there that

water meter yeah the water meter is actually located on our on the applicant's property um could not move it its function is to serve fire flow so if it would activate if there's a fire on the east side uh and then a fire on the west side IT'S ACTUALLY GIVING MORE PRESSURE TO THE FIRE LINE SO THAT ONE ISN'T TAKING ALL OF THE WATER TO PUT OUT THE FIRE. IT ACTUALLY KICKS ON TO THEN REGULATE THE FLOW.

NEW SPEAKER I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THE TOWN DID NOT HAVE EASEMENT? NEW SPEAKER CORRECT.

RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT EASEMENT VIA CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE AN EASEMENT FOR THAT WATER VAULT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT MOVING IT.

WITHOUT OUR REGULAR ATTORNEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACT ON THIS TONIGHT. OKAY. WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER CONDITIONS.

OKAY.

AND YOU STILL NEED YOUR DOT.

YES.

A DOT IS FOR THE WATER.

The DOT is for the drainage connection that we're making for our ultimate discharge from our stormwater system connects into their catch basin because it's located within the right of way. So it'd be a drainage connection permit is what we'll be seeking with them.

And you got your variances approved?

Correct. From ZVA on Monday. Yep.

You want to be on the next meeting?

Yes. Yep.

Dave, I'd like to take one last look at the plans too, because there's been a few changes, mostly notes, but some landscaping, some other stuff.

Yeah, that's fine.

We'll get comments to you before the next meeting. Okay.

I'm assuming VLT is going to be involved in winding Mohawk at Route 7 and that?

Nope, that's all on Town Road.

All right, so you're not coming right into Route 7?

Nope, nope.

THE ONLY THING WITH DOT IS THE DRAINAGE CONNECTION.

I CAN DO THAT. I CAN PROVIDE COPIES TO THE BRUNSWICK FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR SURE.

THAT'S IT? YOU'RE ALL SET?

YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THAT'S SEPTEMBER 3, RIGHT?

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

Good evening. My name is Craig Tripp. I'm a landscape architect with GPI. So obviously we've been before you guys very recently. We were here for meetings in June and culminated with a public hearing meeting on July 2nd where we got our final approval for site plan modifications. This plan that I'm showing you first right now is that plan that you most recently approved. And what took place was after we obtained approval, our Burger King corporate came back to us and they had reached out and had their conversation with some of their construction division and gotten some numbers back from contractors. And as a result of that, they asked us to ve some of the site work to get that into what their budget was going to was going to carry. So that's the reason why we're back in front of you. So in a second, I'll move that and I'm going to show you the difference between the two plans, which is really very, very insignificant, pretty minor changes. I just wanted to give you that kind of quick summary of the reason that we're here in the first place. So when we came back, when we came through the meetings with you guys the first time around, the reasons for the project in the first place still hold true for what we're doing now. So we're still looking at building and branding upgrades, pedestrian and vehicle circulation improvements, ADA accessibility improvements, things along those lines. And at the last meeting two weeks ago, the attorney, when we were talking, he was on board with a couple of things that we had mentioned, which was that extent of the changes between what you recently approved and what we're now coming back for amended approval on are minor enough that the original seeker that we literally just did a few weeks ago can still be bestowed upon. The aspect of whether or not to have a public hearing, he He agreed that it's not necessary, but he did say that it's obviously up to the discretion of the planning board. So that's one of the things we can talk about here. But let me put the other board up and I'll walk you through what the changes that we're proposing are compared to what you just did. So if I asked you to quickly tell me the differences, you'd probably struggle for a second at least to point them out. in a nutshell, what we're looking at doing. On the original approval, we're still, we had asked to add a second drive-through lane. And the way we were accommodating that was, this being the original approval, we were going to slide everything a little bit closer to the back end of the building to open up room to put that second drive-through lane in and keep the parking spaces that are at the back of the site. So given the, the V E request from Burger King and, you know, trying to get the site cost down a little bit, one of the things that we're proposing is we're still adding the second drive-through lane, but we're going to keep it the first one and its original location. So this is the existing curb cut line that's out there today. And we're not going to change that. We're going to, we're going to keep that drive-through location and its current location. still with all new height bars, new menu board, call box, all of that. And then we'll just build the new island that separates it from what will become the second drive-through lane outboard of that. So you can see between these two, this one's a little bit closer to the back of the building. That's what was recently approved. This one just keeps the existing location where it is already and adds the the island outboard of that. In order to do that, these spaces along the back of the building would go away. We would just stripe those out so that people wouldn't be, even though there would technically be room in there, what would happen is that people would be backing into that bypass lane to get in and out of those spaces. And we have... well in excess of what the code requires for the number of spaces anyway, even with removing these 15 spaces back here. In the existing condition, we have 70 spaces, we need 27. And even with the reduction that results from what we're proposing to change now, we're still at 48, which is well over what we need to have. Nothing is changing about the building itself. All the previous elements that we're proposing to do are staying the same. All the changes are just on the site side. And realistically, all of them are from the back edge of the building towards the back of the site. Nothing from the whole front portion or the building itself is any different. The other change is that on the recently approved piece, we were going to build a new dumpster back in this corner here. That would involve also building a new sidewalk for the employees to get out back and forth to the dumpster. And that would also mean that we would get a couple of spaces right here back in the mix. John Potter, In our what we're posing now to save the site cost is we would we would renovate the existing dumpster in its current location new doors new post, you know paint the block put in a new pad new ballards at the back of it, but keep it and it's in its existing location. John Potter, And the other the last piece really that changes is. With the pulling of the curb line at the back of the building closer to the building and the previous approval, that meant that we were going to build a new end island cap here because the circulation pulled further towards Hoosick. Now this area right here just stays as it currently exists right now. it's really overall it's less of a change from the existing condition than what what we were originally were proposing still maintaining though the substance and the rationale for why we were coming to you in the first place and what they're trying to accomplish so still look still going to have all the grading improvements all the sidewalk accessibility improvements still adding the second drive lane. All the landscaping things that we had walked through at the previous approval are still there. In fact, if anything, there's a little bit more landscaping because we've got more space at the back of the building that is going to be new landscaping. And then, like I said, just to stripe out all of these spaces in the back. So that's really the essence of what we're looking to do. It's not a substantive change from what we had recently obtained approval on. So I guess what we're hoping for tonight is that we can get these minor changes approved. I don't know if you've had a chance to review the plans that we submitted. We're still not, from a utility standpoint, It's a little bit less utility work than before, which was really not much to begin with. All we were doing previously was a little bit of stormwater work because there was an existing line coming back here that comes across the site. And when we were pulling the curb line back, we were going to have to put a new structure in here to keep that water going and being split the same way as it does currently. We no longer have to do those changes because we can just leave what's there alone. We're not going to be affecting it anymore. And in order to get this drive-through lane where we were showing it previously, we had to relocate one light pole up in here to get it out of what would have been in the middle of the drive-through lane and put it into this island. And now it can stay in this existing spot. So it's less from a utility standpoint as well. So if there's any questions, I'm happy to get into any of them.

Hey, Megan. I think it's a better change. I personally like the fact that you don't have the employees crossing through the drive-thru to get to the dumpster. And that area where the dumpster is is quite congested there anyway. So adding more spots with the new plan and now taking them back again to just rehab the dumpster I think is a better flow. I visited there quite often and that spot's those spots that are getting quite busy and people seem confused about what they need to do for the flow of getting out of there. Um, especially when you're trying to come all the way down and get out, you're blocked to get out because you got Duncan Donner's traffic and you can't exit. So they're coming back to the next exit.

So, and that, and that's another thing that we're still, still holding from the original approval too, is if you remember, we were all the existing signage wayfinding type signage that's out there now, you know, exit here, drive through this way. That's, Currently like the the old Burger King standard their own signage that's still all being replaced with DOT standard signage in the in the you know, the new condition that we're proposing so that'll get cleaned up and Last time around with the board you guys have had a comment about these spaces along the back side of the building and we had changed those to angled Still doing that and we're actually going to get a couple more out of it because that dumpsters not taking up any of them

You got anything? I'm all set.

I feel it's a much better plan also.

No comments?

So we should vote that we're not going to do a public hearing? A motion that has no public hearing? I'll second. I second. Mike seconded. All those in favor? Aye. I guess we need a motion to act on the changes as he presents them. Are we voting tonight? I don't see why we're going to hold it up. I'll second it. All in favor? Aye. Opposed?

Excellent. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Get that window fixed.

They'll be shutting it down and getting the work done. Thank you very much. I did bring these easels. I don't know if I'm stealing anybody's.

You can donate them to the town.

Did you charge the first guy's rent?

in the new business, 810 Hoosick Road.

WHAT'S UP? GOOD EVENING. SAM BURDEN WITH BOLAR ENGINEERING HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT 810 HOOSIC ROAD LLC. RICH DANCHEK IS WITH ME TONIGHT, APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE IN PALM SPAIN COUNCIL FOR THE PROJECT. Existing site is the former Troy City Garage located at 810 Hoosick Road, site zone B15 commercial zoning district. Existing buildings right around 20,000 square feet. Existing parking, landscaping, onsite lighting, one full access curb cut to Hoosick Road exists today. FOR OUR PROPOSAL, THE HARD PART'S DONE. THE BUILDING'S THERE. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS CHANGE THE USE OF THE BUILDING FROM ESSENTIALLY MOTOR VEHICLE SALE TO MOTOR VEHICLE REPAIR. SO THE TENANT WOULD BE VIVE COLLISION. THERE WAS A DETERMINATION MADE BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT THE CHANGE IN USE WOULD REQUIRE A SITE PLAN REVIEW APPLICATION. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THAT AND TO INTRODUCE THE PROJECT. I will show you some, the site plan, very minor exterior improvements to actually little to none. We're just adding some, essentially some new landscaping around the front of the building, something to get a little bit more curb appeal remaining the same driveway. That's really the extent of the exterior improvements. There will be, Exterior building improvements, rebranding for the business, five collision. That's part of your packets as well. That's these colored elevations. So nothing crazy there. Building sign on the front, they will try and reuse the existing Troy City Garage freestanding sign that's out front. The majority of the project is going to be interior improvements, mechanical repair bays, paint booths, two paint booths in the repair bays. This is what you're seeing, like I said, is the extent of the branding on the outside. Pretty straightforward project, looking to re-tenant that building. They've recently moved out of that building, so looking forward to going from an occupied building that's recently been unoccupied to getting in and occupying that building. Applicants excited to re-tenant this building and happy to answer any questions and just get some general feedback on what you're seeing.

All the windows are staying as they are?

That's correct. So there is a general floor plan of what the inside of the building will look like. There will be a reception area for people that are dropping their vehicles off. That's where the main entrance is today. And then you'll have your repair bays, paint booth, those things.

Is this a chain or a local company?

It's a local company. They have multiple locations, but

How many vehicles can be stored inside the building, and how many do you anticipate being stored outside the building?

So the goal is not to keep any vehicles outside the building overnight for security. In the off chance that they will be, they'll be stored behind a... what we're proposing, I think is out here, we're going to add essentially a gate along the front so you'll be able to separate your retail aspect of it and then the cars being parked. So you can drop your vehicle off, it would be staged, but the goal would be to keep all those vehicles in overnight.

Are most vehicles coming in by a tow truck or?

So there are instances where it is brought in via tow truck, but the majority of the business is where they're going to be driven in by a customer. So these aren't your total vehicles, things like that.

Is this a repair shop or is this a body shop?

It's a repair shop. Repair shop.

On the right side of your property, the red hatching.

Up top?

Yeah.

So that's existing gravel that's out there today. That was brought up as a potential area of concern. The applicant's open to potentially paving it if that's what's requested. But it's just gravel vehicle storage at this point.

So right now, I've never been to the back of that building. Can vehicles go around the back and into that area?

into this area yes yes okay if we go on the property and take over the outside yeah i can get uh i can get uh permission from the potential owner buyer yeah i don't think there's any issue with that it might just be clear this is an auto body repair shop

Pardon? It's an auto body repair shop.

Yeah, so it's not going to be a place you're going to change fluids, things like that.

It is a body. It is a body.

I apologize.

Collision repair. I meant just the use as defined by the zoning code. I apologize. But yes, the intent.

That was my question, whether it was a body shop.

Yep, understood.

Do we know if the number of existing spaces matches code for?

Yeah, we have just a little table up top just that states the, so one space for three bays, assuming three service bays, nine parking spaces required, there's 19 located on the site.

And there is an existing loading dock or something of that sort that's going to remain? It's a ramp.

Yeah, it's a ramp so you could load a dirt bike into the back of your truck. As long as the space meets it, the criteria, I mean, if it's a concern, it's something that we could look at removing. It wouldn't serve any functional purpose application.

New York State or D.C. would be involved for the exhaust system?

Yeah, it would meet all local, state, and federal requirements for, yeah.

And no new floor drains proposed inside the building?

No, there was discussion about that with the building department too, that that wouldn't be allowed as part of the building permit application, and the applicant understands that.

And you sent in, they showed the inside pretty wide open.

i think it's just more of a general uh layout at this point i think you're referring to this one yeah so obviously your booths are separate but it is it is just a general layout at this point of uh i believe it's three separate buildings three separate i believe there's three separate buildings that are joined together all the time

The small rectangle right there, they're paint books, is that what they are?

That's correct, yep, the two here and here.

Are the cars gonna be visible through the front windows?

This is gonna be, so you'll have your offices taking up a portion of it. I would think that there would be some sort of screening, but I can get clarification on that.

So let's just use the current doors. Cards will come in and out, put jockey around inside the building.

That's right.

I can add more bays like Mavis has.

That's correct.

The existing bays are on this side, I believe. And I have none there.

But yeah, the existing doors would be pretty much the remain. Because when they had the motorcycles there, you could really see them right through the windows. So I would want to see. PEOPLE DRIVING BY AND CATCHING.

YEAH, NO, THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THEY WOULD AGREE.

WAYNE, YOU GOT ANY THOUGHTS?

WHAT TYPE OF POLE LIGHTING ARE YOU GOING TO SPEC FOR THIS? YOU'RE PUTTING NEW LIGHTING ON EXTERIOR LIGHTING?

WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO ANY EXTERIOR LIGHTING. IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BUILDING MOUNTED.

PROPOSED AREA LIGHT TYPICAL OF TWO IN THE PARKING LOT.

Oh, okay, I did see, I do see that now.

Yeah, there was some conversation about if we were gonna do onsite, dark sky compliant, housing shields, the typical LED fixtures, or if it could be done just from the building side. It would mainly be for, I would say towards the rear, this eight till five, that there really isn't gonna be a major need for illuminating, besides for security reasons.

Night drop-offs?

It's a good question. It's a possibility, depending on when that happens, yeah.

What are your hours of operation?

Eight till five, Monday through Friday. Saturdays would only be eight to 12 if necessary.

If you want, we'll put you on the next meeting. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, I guess that would be the goal of the next meeting would be to circulate and schedule a public hearing if acceptable to the board. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Thank you very much.

YORN LOFTSHIELD, 276 BOLSON ROAD, BRUNSWELL.

JOHN E. 34 CRANSTON ROAD.

WE'RE ON BOLSON ROAD, 276. WELL, IF YOU KNOW WHAT, WELL, I LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THAT FORMER JUDGE KRONA. HE'S BEHIND MY HOUSE OFF, FURTHER BACK FROM THE ROAD. 276, LET'S SEE, 1.3 MILES UP FROM ROAD 2. NEAR WINFIELD. No, no, no, we'll be on Winfield. We'll just be on Tamble Road, first driveway on the right. After Tamble Road, you go down a little bit, come up, we're right there on the right. Just before Cronos Driveway? We'd share right away on Cronos Driveway. Our driveway comes off of his. Same driveway? Yeah.

What do you got?

Oh, I'd like to install a... solar electric collector freestanding mount in the side yard. That would be big enough to offset the electricity that I currently use on an annual basis.

Now you just recently had it installed, right? You're correct.

That's right. Same contractor.

Same type of system?

Same type of system. His is slightly bigger, but same system, essentially.

Can any of the neighbors see where this is going to go?

Well, I'm pretty far back in the woods. I REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY NOTICEABLE FROM THE ROAD. IT'S GOING TO BE 270 FEET OFF FROM THE ROAD.

IT'S HEAVILY WOODED BETWEEN THE ROAD. YOUR PROPERTY SIT ABOVE OR BELOW, BOLSON?

on the right hand side of bolson as you go yeah so that's what i'm saying there's no part of bolson where you're looking down in your property enough where you're going to see it no we're the high ground our neighbors across the street are a little going down okay the chrono is above you then right yes he is but well well beyond yeah and sometimes in the winter i can see a light at his house but i've been up to his house

AND WE GOT TO DO A PUBLIC EARNING, SO WE'LL GO FROM THERE. NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU.

NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU. NEW SPEAKER 1144 TAMARAC LOAN

I'M JUST GOING TO HOLD IT.

IS THAT GOOD?

I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD TAKE LONG. All right. My name's Ethan Madison. I work for Jake Keysby Land Surveying, and I'm here to represent Craig Hansen for a waiver of subdivision for 5.5 acres off of his 60-acre parcel that sits in the town of Brunswick.

Just to drive by there. He's on Logwoods up in Pittstown.

Drive by it every day. It would be 89 Logwoods. It's on the waiver subdivision.

So where the guide rail ends. Approximately how many feet is between there and the property line's corner?

So probably over 100.

And it slopes away down gradient .

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so that she will have access from Logwoods if she chooses.

Is that a proposed easement or existing easement?

That's 50-foot easement. That's proposed that he's going to deed that to her?

That's all in Pittstown, so not a problem.

The driveway is going to be off of Tamarack.

Yeah. That's just as like if she ever wanted to, but right now it's off Tamarack.

So the Brunswick side is a different tax parcel?

Yes.

And how much land will be remaining in the town of Brunswick?

Around 55 acres.

And that 55 acres is all to the east?

It goes to the south.

It drops down. Across Tamarack Road? Yeah. There's a land hook. It's all the old Roberts farm?

PROBABLY, YES. SO ROBERTS IS ACTUALLY HANSON ON THE MAP HERE? WHERE IT SAYS HERE LANDS OF EDWIN ROBERTS, IS THAT ACTUALLY HANSON, THEN?

NO, THAT'S STILL ROBERTS. HANSON'S JUST HERE.

IT'S A DIFFERENT ROBERTS.

I MEAN, I SEE THIS PARCEL TO THE RIGHT OF YOUR PROPOSAL, BUT THAT'S SMALLER THAN THE LOT.

IF YOU LOOK UP AT THE TOP HERE, All of this land is Hanson's and we're just taking this little section out of it.

So Hanson has property on both sides. Yeah.

He owns all of that.

WHAT'S THAT? IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE IT'S A WAIVER. ANYBODY ELSE GOT QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU BACK TO

We gotta go up and look at it.

Is there a mark there where that line, the property line is gonna be?

The stake or something?

We haven't set anything there yet. We're waiting for approval to set a new stake for this line.

Yeah, some ideas so we know where the... You want something there? Just a stake or something so we know where the... What's the Tamarack of Stakes?

What's this? It's labeled Tamarack Estates, but it's got two different names.

Well, this is Log Road comes into Zeke, right?

No.

Well, if you cross Tamarack, it would go into Zeke.

What's that?

Log Road, if you keep following it into Brunswick, it would go into Zeke. No. Am I right?

No. No. Ends up on Route 7. Pardon? Goes back out to Route 7.

No, no, not that way. but it goes you can get you can get the old seek across tamarack going that way yeah but it's not there's a short section right it's born yeah i'm not sure the name of it it's important it continues from log roads port lane well this is there's a picture

LOT THE SITE IS FROM IT DROPS OFF A LITTLE BIT THERE WHERE THAT RED GUIDE RAIL IS YEAH AND IT OPENS UP TO A FIELD AND THEN IT OPENS UP TO THE YEAH YEP THESE THEY'RE PRETTY LIMITED WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT WHERE THEY CAN PUT A DRIVEWAY

WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO GO UP THERE AND GET A LOOK AT IT.

NEW SPEAKER Yeah, I'LL TELL JAKE.

NEW SPEAKER WE'LL GO AHEAD.

NEXT MEETING WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO. Is there a chance we can get one or two stakes that doesn't have to be a survey?

Yeah, I'll tell Jake, and that shouldn't be a problem. It's all wide open right there.

Honestly, if you go out Tamarack Road, it's right where the guide rail is and where the railing ends is almost a property line.

Yeah, about 100 feet up from where the rail ends there.

You guys can get a stake in there. NEW SPEAKERS. NEW SPEAKERS. NEW SPEAKERS. NEW SPEAKERS. NEW SPEAKERS. NEW SPEAKERS.

I'LL FORWARD THAT.

ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I'LL MAKE A MOTION. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR?