City Council - Regular Meeting

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Well, welcome, everyone. This is the City Council meeting in Brisbane of September 3, 2026. It's nice to see a full house. And we have a reminder to members of the public. They can use listening devices here at City Hall or turn on Zoom captions at home if needed. We've added that feature. And I'm calling this meeting to order at 635. I apologize for being a little bit late. We have a lot of housekeeping to do. That being said, would you join me in the Pledge of Allegiance, please?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

We have no council members attending the meeting remotely. You can see we have a full house. City Clerk, could you do the roll call, please?

Council Member Davis. Here. Council Member Kern.

Here.

Council Member Lentz. Here. Council Member O'Connell. Here. And Mayor Mackin.

Here. Before we go further on the agenda, I'd like to just do a housekeeping measure. We will be adhering to speaker cards. And what that means is rather than someone just standing up, going to the podium or raising their hand, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T MISS ANYBODY AND THAT WE DON'T GET OUT OF TURN OR THAT WE DON'T GET PEOPLE SPEAKING OVER AND OVER, WE GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE. THERE ARE SPEAKER CARDS. I'M TOLD THEY'RE ON THE CHAIRS. WHEN WE RECEIVE THOSE SPEAKER CARDS, THEY'RE NUMBERED SO WE KNOW WHAT ORDER. AND IT'S KIND OF FIRST IN, FIRST OUT. SO IF YOU'RE COMING TO ONGOING, SAY, THE BAYLANDS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET HEARD THAT NIGHT OR ASK QUESTIONS, YOU WANT TO COME HERE EARLY, GET A SPEAKER CARD DONE. AND THOSE WILL BE TURNED INTO OUR CITY CLERK, IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. IF DURING THE EVENING WE DON'T GET THROUGH ALL THE CARDS, We will see how many other speakers, and those speakers then could be continued to the next meeting that follows, that night's meeting. ALSO, IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAKING COMMENTS OR ASKING QUESTIONS, IF YOU FIND THAT WE'VE RUN OUT OF TIME AND YOU JUST HAD A QUESTION OR MAYBE YOU HAVE TO GET UP REALLY EARLY TOMORROW MORNING AND YOU JUST WANT A QUESTION ANSWERED, WE WILL NOT BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS TONIGHT. THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED BY STAFF. THOSE ANSWERS, THEIR RESPONSES WILL COME TO A FUTURE MEETING. SO YOU'RE ALSO WELCOME TO SEND Emails or call City Hall staff on our website. City Clerk, could you tell them what the website is?

The email is baylands at brisbaneca.org and the website is brisbaneca.gov.

Okay. And if you have any questions on that, you could ask the City Clerk or call City Hall and they'll direct you in the right person to send your message to. Final housekeeping on this is we have been in a policy all year. We've been adhering to two minutes on speakers, and you're going to double your money tonight because through the hearings, we know we have a lot of people, and sometimes it's tough to put together. You've got a lot to say. FOUR MINUTES. WE ASK YOU RESPECT THAT. AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, I'VE BEEN ON YOUR SIDE OF THE DIAS AND IT'S REALLY HARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE THINGS TO SAY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING HERE, REMEMBER, ALL NIGHT WAITING FOR THEIR TURN. SO WE CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE. SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT EACH ONE OF YOU HAS A VOICE THAT'S HEARD. WE WANT TO KNOW YOUR COMMENTS. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. and for anyone who's not been here. There are different sections in the agenda. If you came to talk about the Baylands, you want to talk when we get to that on the agenda. If you came to talk about Halloween, that's on the agenda. If you came to talk about anything else that's not on the agenda, that belongs under oral communications, which is at the beginning of our agenda. So that being said, did I miss anything?

That was excellent.

Okay. All right. We have a report out of closed session. City Attorney Zuttler, could you give us a report, please?

Good evening. A closed session was had on the items on the agenda. No reportable action was taken.

All right. Thank you very much.

Didn't we make a decision on the liability claim?

The claim was denied. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you, Council Member O'Connell. Adoption of the agenda. Tonight we will pull consent calendar item E, which are the minutes for the special meeting of July 27-26 for corrections to be considered for the next meeting.

It was one simple correction on a vote. Can't we just hear that now?

If that's council's desire, sure. Okay. So we'll put that back in.

Okay.

And we are pulling business item L. This is regarding the reimbursement agreement with parties who constructed San Francisco Avenue extension. So with that one modification, business item L, can I get a first and second to adopt the agenda as amended? So moved.

Second.

All in favor? Aye. Okay. Motion passes unanimously. We come to oral communications number one. I'm going to read the caveat. We welcome speakers providing public comment, but please be advised, this is a limited public forum. It's important for speakers to stay on topic, whether speaking to a particular agenda item or speaking during general public comment. On-topic matters are those that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the City of Brisbane. Speakers, whether during oral communications or on agenda items, will have, as we mentioned earlier, four minutes. There'll be a timer up on the screen as well. Following these rules helps ensure the City Council can get to all the items on the agenda, including hearing public comment on the items. If a speaker fails to follow these rules, they're disrupting the meeting. We don't want that. And they will be warned. If a speaker continues to ignore the rules or is otherwise disruptive, their opportunity to speak will be ended and they may be precluded from speaking on any other items tonight. So at this point in time, Is there a member of the public wishing to make a public comment? I have one slip here. This is for an item that's not on the agenda. If you all have other items to speak about, items on the agenda, please get those comment cards filled out and passed over to our city clerk. First oral communications I have is Mr. Tom Hines. Tom, come on up here.

Good evening, honorable mayor and council members. I just want to thank you for the opportunity to show my recent artwork in your conference room. I thought you were on vacation in August. Otherwise, they would have been here sooner. I especially want to thank Madison and Frank for coming to the reception. I appreciated that. So I also want to thank the rec department. Nicole and Sarah and Benjamin helped out immensely. Thank you again.

Thank you, Tom. Anyone else? Any other further cards? City Clerk? That's it?

No, Madam Mayor.

We move on to the consent calendar.

Madam Mayor, I'm sorry. Michelle Salmon just had to raise hand. Yes.

Michelle. Thank you. I was going to ask where do people online fit in the queue since we can't give you a card. So I hope that people who are online watching from home will be able to comment as well. And then the other thing is that I'm a little distressed that we're raising the rate for water aerobics for non-residents by a dollar. They're considering that. And I think that would be penny wise and pound foolish. It is We have a lot of competition for other pools. And, I mean, if we had 30 people in the class all the time, I could see that. But we really don't. And it kind of hits hard at the retired people who come from out of town to enjoy our pool and have been supporting it for many, many years. And so it really is actually a little bit pound foolish or whatever. Thank you.

City Clerk, could you advise the public that's online what to do in terms of getting in the queue with speaker cards since they're online?

Yeah, we have a staff member that's going to be monitoring the online comments. They just have to do their raised hands via Zoom.

Okay, thank you very much. All right, we move to consent calendar and a question for our city attorney. Since we put item E back in and we require consent, modification councilmember O'Connell said that there's just one item on there to correct do we need to pull that and consider it separately or can she just tell us what the item minor modification is I think it is fine for her to just tell you what the minor modification is all right thank you councilmember O'Connell sure on page 16 of 253

THE NEEDS OF REVISION ONLY ON THE VOTE FOR PUBLIC ART COMMITTEE. IT STATED THAT THE VOTE WAS GENANIMOUS FOR KAREN CUNNINGHAM, AND I NEED TO REFLECT THAT IT WAS THREE AYES AND TWO NOES, WITH MAYOR MACKIN AND COUNCILMEMBER LENTZ VOTING NO.

OKAY. STAFF NOTED?

YEAH.

OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, CAN I GET A FIRST AND SECOND TO APPROVE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS B THROUGH H?

So moved.

Second. We've got a first and second. All in favor? Aye. That was a unanimous vote. Moving on. Awards and presentations. We have a swearing-in ceremony for newly appointed committee members. City Clerk, could you please do the honors? These are newly appointed committee members, Karen Cunningham, Paul Mangimel for Public Art Advisory Committee, and committee member Deborah Mansahet for Complete Streets Safety Committee. And I want to thank everyone who applied for our committees and commissions. If you didn't make it this round, I strongly advise you apply in the future. Keep applying because sometimes it's just a hard choice. We don't have a lot of slots to fill, but it's very important that we make some public service available to everyone.

I will now administer the oath or affirmation of allegiance for public officers and employees. Please raise your right hand and repeat after me. I, state your name, do solemnly affirm that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California. against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will well bear a true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion. and that I will faithfully discharge the duties upon which I'm about to enter.

Congratulations.

Thank you very much. Brisbane has a good spirit of volunteerism, always has. There's evidence of it right there. Next item we have is under old business. Item J, consider Halloween road closure recommendations from the Complete Street Safety Committee. Could we have a staff report, please?

Good evening, honorable mayor and city council members. I think we're on page 26 of your packet. It's a pleasure to be back before you tonight, joined by Commander Mario Garcia, as well as our communications coordinator, Bella Volante, to share with you the recommendations from the Complete Street Safety Committee regarding the 2026 Halloween event. THE THREE OF US WERE ALSO IN ATTENDANCE AT COMPLETE STREET'S AUGUST 5TH MEETING ALONG WITH OF COURSE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR MOZ BOZERGINIA AND WE SHOWED VARIOUS MAPS TO THE COMMITTEE THAT NIGHT THAT BUILT UPON THE CANDY CORN SCENARIO THAT YOU SAW AT YOUR JULY 16TH MEETING. WE WERE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE OPTIONS IN DETAIL WITH THE COMMITTEE AND HEAR FROM AT LEAST A DOZEN RESIDENTS THAT EITHER CALLED IN OR JOINED THE MEETING IN PERSON. So we thank you so much for your feedback. It quickly became clear to staff as well as the committee that if you close San Bruno as well as San Francisco, then you eliminate the bottleneck happening on Alvarado, which was a case that we noted last year because Alvarado wasn't closed. This map on the left shows that there's no ability for ingress for motorists, making the overall closure safer for trick-or-treaters and reducing the number of closure points needed if San Bruno wasn't closed. This also keeps the costs down. So staff is recommending tonight using LAS parking for each of the eight closure points, which allows our officers to be freed up and patrolling throughout the event that evening. It would also allow them to get to any incidents more quickly. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT SHOWS OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMPLETE STREET SAFETY COMMITTEE, THE CLOSURE OF THE CANDY CORN, YEAH, WE REFERENCED EARLIER. ON THE FOLLOWING SLIDE ARE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE COMPLETE STREET SAFETY COMMITTEE WAS DISCUSSING. TO NOTE, EARLIER START TIME WAS SPOKEN OF JUST BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HALLOWEEN FALLS ON A SATURDAY THIS YEAR AND THERE ISN'T THAT NEED TO MAKE SURE RESIDENTS HAD TIME TO GET HOME BEFORE THE STREETS CLOSED. SO 530 P.M. TO 8 IS THE THOUGHT FOR THIS YEAR'S EVENT AND MAYBE THE EVENT FALLS ON A WEEKEND AS OPPOSED TO A WEEKDAY. USING THE LARGER W3 BARRICADES SO THAT THEY'RE HARDER TO MOVE AND SETTING UP TEMPORARY OR PORTABLE EVENT LIGHTING AT DIMMER INTERSECTIONS AS NOTED. VISITATION IN CLAMATH AND ONE OF THE SURVEY RESPONDENTS. ALSO THE BRISBAYNE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE PARK AT THAT CROSSWALK ON OLD COUNTY. AND PUBLIC WORKS AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ANY BURNT OUT STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE REPLACED BEFORE THEN. WE'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING LIKE A GENERAL MY BRISBANE REMINDER THAT IF YOU NOTICE ANYTHING ON YOUR STREET, IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING, PLEASE PUT IN A SERVICE REQUEST BECAUSE MANY OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS GROUP MEMBERS ARE NOT HERE IN THE EVENING TO NOTE THE ISSUE. SO IT REALLY HELPS THEM TO HAVE A SERVICE REQUEST. WE WOULD CONTACT WAYMO TO SHARE THE CLOSURE MAP WITH THEM IF APPROVED TONIGHT. THIS IS MOSTLY JUST THINKING ABOUT THEIR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES COMING INTO TOWN. LIKE YOU CANNOT THEN TURN ON SAN FRANCISCO OR GO UP SAN FRANCISCO. YOUR ONLY ACCESS POINT IS VISITATION. SO WE THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEM TO KNOW TO TELL THEIR CARS. WE WOULD ALSO LEAVE DOOR HANGERS WITH THE REMINDER THAT IF YOU SHOULD ORDER FROM FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES AT NIGHT TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO EITHER MEET YOUR DRIVER WHO'S DELIVERING YOUR FOOD OUTSIDE OF THE CLOSURE AREA OR TO ORDER AHEAD OF THE TIME THAT THE ROADS CLOSE. AND WE WOULD ALSO INCLUDE, AGAIN, THE BRISBAY NON-EMERGENCY POLICE NUMBER ON THOSE DOOR HANGERS. Another recommendation, just going off of feedback we received from last year's event, we produced maps for the volunteers who would be at the intersections as well so that they can inform those coming in of where the overflow parking areas are, as well as the bathroom facility at the park. And then placing posters listing these overflow areas at the five points. So at the lower part of the closure and up at San Bruno and Klamath at the upper portion of the closure. And flaggers on Old County I think would be great too so that as people come in and they're rounding that corner in Old County that we can let them know to park in the Brisbane Village Shopping Center and not get any closer. We would also have flaggers on Park Place. So if they're coming in from the Ridge, AND THEY WANT TO PARK EASILY TO PARK AT CITY HALL OR THE ANNEX OR ALONG PARK PLACE. LASTLY, BECAUSE SAN FRANCISCO WOULD BE CLOSED, WE WOULD LOOK AT INVITING A FOOD TRUCK TO PARK ALONG SAN FRANCISCO AVENUE SO THERE'S REPAIRED FOOD FOR THE VISITORS AND PEDESTRIANS TO ENJOY AT THE PARK. SO LASTLY, FISCAL IMPACTS WOULD BE FROM PUBLIC WORKS OVERTIME TO SET OUT THE BARRICADES EARLIER THAT DAY, THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM LAZ AND THE PRINTED DOOR HANGERS. THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY MORE POLICE OVERTIME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS EVENT. BRINGING THE TOTAL FISCAL IMPACT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 3500. AND OF COURSE ON THE LAST SLIDE WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE COORDINATING AGAIN WITH OUR WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS AND LEAD COORDINATOR JESSICA LOFT. SHE'S EXPRESSED INTEREST IN WANTING TO HELP OUT WITH THIS EVENT AGAIN. SO WITH THAT, I COULD TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING THIS YEAR'S CLOSURE.

may i ask commander garcia did you have anything you wanted to add to this before we move forward no um obviously i was part of the first closure and the biggest takeaway that we took from that was really the decision making from vehicles when they hit the five quart of five corners whether to go up san bruno or not san bruno but down san francisco over to alvarado and that really was the UNINTENDED ISSUE THAT WE DID NOT CATCH. SO BY MAKING THE FOOTPRINT BIGGER AND CLOSING THOSE STREETS OFF, WE ACTUALLY REALLY JUST FUNNEL ALL CARS DOWN VISITATION, WHICH IS A LOT MORE SAFER.

SO I ACTUALLY WANT TO THANK STAFF BECAUSE I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE COMPLETE STREETS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE A LOT OF RESIDENTS DID MANY, MANY SUGGESTIONS THAT came up with these ideas and attending meetings. So before we go into that, I have one slip from someone that wants to speak on this. Anyone else that wants to speak on this topic, a reminder, you got to fill out a slip. This is our city clerk. Okay. City clerk, I've got two is there another one on this because this says three where's two okay okay all right council questions of staff let's start with um mayor pro tem davis

I actually don't have any questions because I watched the Complete Streets meeting on this, and I had a lot of questions going into that meeting, but it was really helpful for me to hear the whole discussion. So with that, I don't have anything.

Okay. Council Member Kern?

Thank you, Mayor. Just some, I guess, procedural questions. The last paragraph of the staff report indicates that there were a number of members of the public that came to the meeting. Was that the City Council meeting or was that the Complete Streets meeting?

That's noting the Complete Streets meeting on August 5th.

Thank you so much. My next question is, is it possible to give local food trucks in the city of Brisbane first right of refusal?

Definitely.

Thank you. Last question is, I didn't see anything in the staff report about additional volunteer recruitment, volunteer management. You just spoke to it, but I didn't see anything in the staff report. Is this, we've increased the footprint of this by about 50%. Will this require the same amount of volunteers, more volunteers, less volunteers?

We actually have one less closure point than we did last year. Last year we had nine and this year only eight. So we could have the same number of volunteers as last year.

That's fantastic. Okay. No more questions. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. Council Member Litz.

Yeah. Thank you, Caroline, for the staff report. Mario, if you wouldn't mind. Commander Garcia, sorry. So when this was before the council a couple months ago, I guess, I don't think it's on. How about I get a little closer? So when it was before the council a couple of months ago, we had a recommendation. Correct. And from what you're saying tonight, actually, the bigger footprint is safer as far as, right, because you just have visitation.

They're both safe. But once we last year, the initial one, NEEDED A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS AND IT WAS CRUCIAL THE VOLUNTEERS STAYED WHERE THEY WERE AT. BY MAKING IT ACTUALLY BIGGER, YOU REDUCE ONE CLOSURE POINT AND IT MAKES THE ENTIRE AREA MUCH SAFER. BECAUSE WE HAD VEHICULAR TRAFFIC ON SAN FRANCISCO THAT WERE TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT THAT PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO GO TO THE PARK. SO THIS ACTUALLY MAKES IT EVEN SAFER. AS SAFE AS THE INITIAL CANDY CORN. SO LISTENING TO COMMENTS AND NEEDING A BIGGER PUT PRINT, WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IT BY MAKING IT BIGGER AND STILL SAFER. BECAUSE WE SHUT DOWN BASICALLY THE OPTIONS FOR VEHICLES. VEHICLES ARE ACTUALLY YOUR MAIN CONCERN ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. SO WE DID THAT BY FUNDING EVERYBODY A VISITATION IF THEY WANT TO COME TO TOWN.

GREAT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING. BECAUSE FOR ME THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING. YEAH. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS PUT TOGETHER. SO THANKS. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL MEMBER O'CONNELL?

So from this report, it sounds as if the decision has already been made to hire LAZ parking assistants instead of using police staff, which is an additional cost of about $1,000. Correct.

But we would not incur overtime for our staff. So it offsets some of the cost because we would no longer have PD overtime there.

Right. It's saying that the cost for LAZ is $2,300 and that the overtime would have been $1,200. So an additional $1,100 in cost by having an outside entity rather than our police staff.

That's correct. But at the same time, it gives our staff the availability to be available at any point to address issues of someone called in, someone driving recklessly up on visitation. We can immediately dispatch them to that, and we would be free to roam the area, versus last time we were kind of tied down at each point. Okay.

I just, that was one of the things that was coming back to us to make that decision, and then it looks like that decision was already made through this staff report.

Yeah, we would have to use last if we used the footprint we're recommending now. Okay.

Thank you. So I have two very brief questions. Staff report says contacting Waymo so their vehicles are aware of road closures. Did we last year contact Amazon or UPS since this is being proposed as an earlier hour?

We did not. In our SMC alerts, we just alerted the residents that they were ordering from Amazon or anywhere that they not have their delivery time on that day, if possible.

Could we, as a courtesy, consider actually contacting? We should, yeah. Yeah. And then also, in light of the fact that there were lessons learned, positive and negative, last year, could we consider having a debrief of this after the event? Because this is, again, another departure in the design. And I would rather that we consider what worked, what didn't work, instead of saying, well, we're just going to do it this way all the time. Because I think that that's a prudent thing to do.

You want to talk more after the event in November to see how it went? Sure.

Okay, Mayor Pro Tem Davis. Commander Garcia, because I had the benefit of watching the Complete Streets, I learned a lot about LAZ, if that's how you say it. And my understanding, and just please correct me if I'm wrong, is that while, yes, it is an extra expense, you can rely less heavily on volunteers because these people, this is what they're trained to do. This is like... CROWD CONTROL AND THAT SORT OF THING REALLY IS THEIR SPECIALTY AND SO THEY CAN CLOSE DOWN ALL OF THE STREETS THAT NEED TO BE CLOSED AND THEN MAN THOSE CLOSURE POINTS AND IT WOULD YOU WOULD NEED LESS RELIANCE ON VOLUNTEERS. AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THAT RIGHT.

NEW SPEAKER THAT IS CORRECT. SO THIS IS WHAT LAZ This is what LAS does. They do parking enforcement, obviously, and then they do street closures. They actually work with a lot of cities on the fly. If there was a major accident, they can get there super fast and close down the streets. They are well trained. They have intercommunications with themselves and our dispatch centers. So they can rely on talking to us through not phone call. They can get on the radio. And they're very well versed at they train for that. If I close this section down, you gotta wait, give me five minutes before you can close that next section down versus someone just closing streets down. And our volunteers, we required at least two per closure. Each LAS trained member can do it with one person in one vehicle. And they provide their personnel. With LAS being in place, We know Brisbane is a wonderful place that gets volunteers all the time. And we welcome that. But we can actually put volunteers at different places where they could be volunteers just walking around with vests just to make sure everything's fine. If they can call out anything to us, that they see as they're walking. Because when you're at a closure point, you don't see what's going on in the interior. And they may be able to notify us and say, hey, something's not right over here or doesn't look good. Maybe we need to open up the street a little bit more or close it down. So they can do that. And then I was at the five corners with the incident command center with Jessica Lofton. That corner, actually, with all the crossings, with the parking in the nearby area, required more than two. Captain America and Jessica Lofton did a lot of work for just a crossing there. So excuse me, I forgot the gentleman's name. But Captain America was there, though. And they saved the day. So we can definitely use more help at that intersection.

Can I ask a follow-up question? Yeah. I remember that when the streets were reopened, there was like a warning. Yes. So who would do that? Would that be a volunteer? Would that be LAZ? Would that be police?

That will still be police. We do still have personnel. Again, they'll be free to do so. And we will coordinate that with my sergeant on duty and incident commander on duty that we will systematically go one street at a time. AND RUN THE POLICE CAR THROUGH WITH LIGHTS AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT BEFORE WE OPEN UP THAT STREET USING LAS. AND THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF POLICE CARS, ONE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ROADWAY, TABLES OR ANYTHING, CHAIRS THAT PEOPLE MAY HAVE SET UP OR ENCROACHING THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY OR ANYTHING. SO WE WOULD USE THE OFFICERS TO DO THAT.

NEW SPEAKER SO BEYOND EVERYTHING YOU'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF the benefits of Laz. Is there anything that you could point to that happened last year that you feel like if you, by having Laz this year, you could avoid? Besides some stuff you've already mentioned, like, is there anything new that you think

NO, THE VOLUNTEERS DID A GREAT JOB. THIS YEAR OBVIOUSLY WE'RE USING W3s WHICH ARE LARGER BARRICADES WHICH IS NOT SO EASY TO ASK SOMEONE TO MOVE AND ACTUALLY YOU REALLY CAN'T MOVE IT WITH ONE PERSON. YOU PROBABLY NEED TWO. SO THAT CAN'T BE MOVED EASILY. BUT THE BIGGEST LESSON LEARNED LAST YEAR WAS ALVARADO. ALVARADO AND SAN FRANCISCO. THOSE WERE BOTTLENECKS THAT WE COULD NOT CONTROL. AND BY THE TIME WE REALIZED IT, IT WAS TOO LATE.

Do you envision that volunteers might be able to shift to help guide visitors to appropriate places to park? How did people know where to park last time? WERE THERE SIGNS OUT?

WE MESSAGED A LOT OF THE OVERFLOW PARKING IN ADVANCE VIA SMC ALERT, SOCIAL MEDIA, OUR WEBSITE, THE STAR. WE UTILIZE ALL CHANNELS SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW IN ADVANCE. WE WERE UPDATING OUR WEBSITE AS WE HEARD FROM MORE PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT WE CAN USE OUR LOT.

I JUST THINK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN AND MAY NOT KNOW WHERE CITY HALL IS OR THAT BANK OF AMERICA PROPERTY EXISTS AND THEY CAN PARK THERE, MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS.

LIKE ON THE OUTER SKIRTS OF TOWN. YEAH, JUST TO MAYBE USE THE FLAGS.

THE SIGN THAT SAYS PARKING THIS WAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PREPARED TO DO AS WELL.

OKAY, THAT'S IT. COUNCILMEMBER KERN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?

I JUST HAVE A COMMENT. THE APRON EXIT FROM MIDTOWN MARKET ON MENDESINO STREET GOT IT? THAT WAS NOT BLOCKED LAST YEAR. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS BLOCKED. WE ENDED UP CARRYING HORSES THERE LATER IN THE EVENING TO BLOCK IT UP, BUT IT WASN'T ORIGINALLY BLOCKED. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T GO CUT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND GO DOWN MENDESINO.

NEW SPEAKER YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN HOW WEMA GOT THROUGH.

NEW SPEAKER YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU.

And I would add one more thing. If we have volunteers, the closing, even with the police driving around, there were still people in the streets. Can we utilize the volunteers to really go to the corners and make sure people are out of the street?

Yes, absolutely.

That would really be appreciated. Okay. Anyone else? No?

No.

Okay. This is time for public comment. First one I have is Sarah Mills.

Hi, I'm Sarah Mills with some guest stars, Raya Sridharan and Autumn Management Melly. And I just want to say thank you to the staff for considering and hopefully approving this footprint that was recommended by the Complete Street Safety Committee. Thank you to the Complete Street Safety Committee for being super thorough. Thank you for COMMANDER GARCIA AND CITY STAFF FOR REALLY LISTENING TO OUR FEEDBACK. IT WAS WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT THEY TOOK OUR FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE AS A PARENT OF YOUNG CHILDREN, SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE CONCERN, BUT CELEBRATION IS SECONDARY. AND SO HAVING A LARGER FOOTPRINT, CLEARLY FROM THE REPORT TODAY IS GOING TO COVER THE SAFETY MARK, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO HELP US CELEBRATE

So what do we say thank you? What do we say, ladies? Say thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You want to give this to them?

Yes, they made some arts and crafts for you.

Go ahead. City Attorney, is this legal? Good point.

Okay, we'll let you guys disperse.

Thank you. Next speaker I have is Paul Mongeau-Mell.

Paul Mongeau-Mell. Paul Mongeau-Mell. Paul Mongeau-Mell. Paul Mongeau-Mell. Paul Mongeau-Mell.

Paul Mongeau-Mell. Essentially, I think Sarah said a lot of it. I don't think this is a highly opposed subject. But, yeah, it means a lot to our family. And I know I think a lot of families in our area and surrounding areas to have this street closure done and have a safe space for the kids to walk and have a great night. So I know these girls enjoyed it last year very much so. And I know they'll really enjoy this year.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you for coming tonight. All right. At this point, can I get a first and second to approve the complete Street Safety Committee recommendations for Halloween road closures? Are we going to have a discussion? Oh, we should have a discussion. Sorry. Don't forget to ask online if there's any. Do we have any online comments? We do.

Raise hands from Jessica.

Jessica, go ahead.

Hi, everybody. I just want to chime in and say thank you for all the kind words and thank you to Complete Streets for working hard on this. We did have a debrief meeting last November after this event, and there was so much good input from the survey and from the people that attended. So I feel like this is like the next iteration. The pilot was last year, and this is going to be even better. So I'm super excited. TO SEE IT COME TO FRUITION AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP COORDINATE VOLUNTEERS AGAIN FOR WHEREVER WE SHOULD BE AND COMMANDER GARCIA AND I CAN TALK ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE PLACED BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, JESSICA.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL DISCUSSION. LET'S SEE. HOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBER O'CONNELL?

SURE. I'm in favor of going ahead and doing this, but I would like to say that I think, is this still being funding out of the city manager's budget? I think that in the future, we should consider whether this should be part of Park and Rec, and that would take most of the planning and decision-making out of the council's purview and put it into Park and Rec, where it still might come to us for final approval. But I think that that would be the appropriate place. I think it's a Park and Rec event in theory, and it should be going forward. Maybe not this year, but... And that's something for the future council to discuss.

Council Member O'Connell, could you indicate, since there were three proposals and you're in favor going forward, which of the proposals that you're in favor of? Number two?

It doesn't matter to me. I'm fine with however the council wants to go.

Okay. Council Member Kern?

Thank you so much. Last year I recommended doing a full on press release about the street closures and I was met with resistance from the full council. It was just me over here saying we should do a press release. I would like to have that conversation again. Now that we've got a much larger footprint, I think doing a press release to let the greater Bay Area know that the streets are going to be closed. We're not going to be able to reach every single cab company, every single delivery company, every single restaurant that does its own independent delivery. I think it makes sense to do a press release.

May I ask who you would do the press release to?

Whoever's going to pick it up. General press release saying we're closing streets.

All right mayor Pro Tem Davis.

I Just want to acknowledge all the work that Complete Street Safety Committee did and staff I'm in favor of expanding the closure. I was in favor originally. And I would say, I mean, it's not that much bigger than last year. We just have Alvarado closed between San Bruno and San Francisco, and then San Francisco closed all the way. So it really just kind of is that one loop right there. But I thought last year's footprint really worked with the exception of Alvarado. So I think that this suggestion from Complete Street Safety Committee clears that up. And I also really want to acknowledge the parents who brought children to our meeting and just say that so often these meetings feel like places that kids aren't welcome. and the kids make noise and they're talking. And so I think like as somebody who is a parent, um, it would, I would maybe think twice about bringing my child to a meeting, but I think that it's really so important to expose your kids to this process. And I grew up going to council meetings. I spoke at my first council meeting at four years old and that had like such an impact in my life. And so, you know, we as elected officials, we serve all COMMUNITY MEMBERS, LARGE AND SMALL, OLD AND YOUNG. AND SO THIS IS A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, CHILDREN ARE WELCOME, AND I REALLY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM TONIGHT. SO, YEAH, I'M EXCITED. I THINK THAT BRINGING LAZ IS A BRILLIANT IDEA. I THINK THAT JUST INCREASES THE LEVEL OF SAFETY THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE. And really at a nominal cost when you're looking at the amount of bodies and support they're giving us. And it really allows us to be more responsive to other emergencies because God forbid something might happen and you never want to say that you were pulled away and couldn't react fast enough. So I think that this really is the best of both worlds. It allows us to have a closure and serve our families and provide safety. but also free our much-needed police officers to get to other business if they need to.

So polling again, you're saying attachment number two and Council Member Kern as well. Okay. As well, yes.

All right. Thank you, committee, for the hard work that you put into this. and also the parents who came to their meetings. When you're on a committee or a commission, it's great when the public comes and gives you feedback. And to have this result from your input, right, really makes a difference. I think what's presented, as everyone has mentioned, it is safer. And when you think about the cost, and this is like such a huge bang for the buck. I mean, you take $3,500 DIVIDE THAT BY HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, I MEAN, IT'S SUCH A BARGAIN. AND I KNOW THAT JESSICA AND EMILY, THEY WERE HUGE IN SPEARHEADING THIS, WANTING TO MAKE IT A REALLY GREAT EVENT, LIKE AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE OUR COMMUNITY. YEAH, YOU KNOW, THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO STEP UP. SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR FOR ATTACHMENT TWO, MADAM MAYOR. OKAY.

I WILL ECHO THE ATTACHMENT TWO. AND SO CAN I GET A FIRST AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE COMPLETE STREET SAFETY COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HALLOWEEN ROAD CLOSURES. THAT'S ATTACHMENT NUMBER TWO.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING?

YOU PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO AGREE TO THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR ME TO STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT Um, the closure is proposed five 30 to eight. I really feel like it should be five 30 to eight 30. Um, because it's two and a half. I mean, two hours really felt too short, but it was a weeknight and people needed to be able to get home. This is a Saturday and for all, for getting Laz all the way over, all the way over here and to just be closed for two and a half hours, um, I personally think it just makes sense to just make it an even three in my brain. That's just like a nice round number. So I would suggest 5.30 to 8.30, but I don't know that we have the numbers on what that would increase in cost. And so I'm cognizant that maybe you might not have enough information to support that at this time, but I would think three hours on a Saturday would make sense.

SO ARE YOU ASKING FOR US TO AMEND THE PROPOSAL?

NO, I JUST, I MEAN, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY INDICATION OF, BECAUSE I THINK IT WOULD REALLY COME DOWN TO COST, AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF STAFF HAS ANY INDICATION OF WHAT AN EXTRA HALF HOUR MIGHT ADD.

I WOULD DEFER TO MAZ IF YOU HAVE SOME INFORMATION RELATED TO THE LAWS AGREEMENT.

It depends on the number of staff. It's about $47 an hour per individual is the rate. So somewhere in the range of $500 to $1,000. I think somewhere in that range is where I would estimate.

I would ask the city attorney, do we have a problem since this was published in the agenda amending that?

No, it's fine.

Okay, just wanted to make sure. Okay, so staff discussion. Do we want to change the time? Council Member O'Connell?

I was down in the web streets during that time, and pretty much everything had dried up by the time it was, we had closed down last time. There weren't very many kids left, certainly not very many kids left, still some teenagers, but not the little ones. But again, I'm ambivalent.

Council Member Lentz?

I'm the same. Yeah, I was there that evening volunteering, and by the time it got past 8 o'clock, yeah, it was just the teenagers. But, you know, I'm good with 8.30 because it is a Saturday night.

We could do 5 to 8. I mean, we could do it earlier so you have more daylight for younger kids. I just think the 2.5 is what's throwing me off. Less about the exact times, but more about, like, It's easier to communicate just like a, a three hour window.

You know, having an odd time, like a mid, uh, timeframe. 5.30, yeah.

Also, the other big consideration was that volunteers, we didn't want them to have to be standing in one place for two hours, not be able to use the bathroom. We didn't want them to abandon their posts. But I think because we have LAS there and it frees those volunteers up, they could go walk to the park and use the bathroom or they could be more intermingled with neighbors and be more in the action and they just... I think last time we just felt it was a big ask to have people stand in one spot for three hours. But now that the circumstances have changed, I wouldn't think that the burden on the volunteers would be as much across that three-hour span as it would have been with the last setup.

Five to eight to me makes better sense when you're looking at safety and little ones. And I'm sure parents would like to have their little kids do their trick-or-treating as early as possible. and then get them home. So I'd be open for five to three.

Council Member Kern? I mean five to eight, excuse me. Sorry.

As I recall, my original understanding is we were doing this for the purposes of safety. This wasn't for purposes of partying. So I think that opening it up at 5 p.m. and carrying it through to 8 p.m. for the younger children and their safety makes sense.

Okay, I'm all right with five to eight. That being said, can I get a first and second to approve the proposal? Number two, changing the hours from five to eight. So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. Unanimous. It carries. Thank you very much, everyone, for your input. Thank you, counsel. And counsel for your recommendations, staff. Moving on to the next item, we have new business. Discuss topics and schedule for future public hearings on the Bayland-specific plan and EIR. Note to the public, this tonight is not a public hearing. Public hearings will be separately noticed. Could we have staff report, please?

YES, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS TO DISCUSS THE TOPICS AND SCHEDULE FOR FUTURE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE BAYLAND SPECIFIC PLAN, EIR AND ASSOCIATED ENTITLEMENTS. AS NOTED IN THE STAFF REPORT, TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION ITSELF IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE NOTICED SEPARATELY. SO AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, THE COMMISSION CONCLUDED ITS REVIEW OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND ATTENDANT ENTITLEMENTS AS WELL AS THE EIR ON AUGUST 13TH. ULTIMATELY THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL CERTIFY THE EIR, APPROVE THE SPECIFIC PLAN WITH SOME MODIFICATIONS. AS WELL AS APPROVE THE ASSOCIATED ENTITLEMENTS IN A MODIFIED VERSION OF THE BASAL MOBILITY PLAN. SO THE COUNCIL IS NOW PREPARING FOR TAKING ON REVIEW OF ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS AND APPROVALS. TO THAT END, THE AD HOC BAYLAND SUBCOMMITTEE CONSISTING OF MAYOR PROTEM DAVIS AND COUNCILMEMBER LENTZ HAVE COORDINATED WITH STAFF TO CREATE A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW THE COUNCIL SHOULD ORGANIZE ITS PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULE. AND ESSENTIALLY, AS SUMMARIZED IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE FRAMEWORK WILL USE MEASURE JJ, WHICH IS THE BALLOT MEASURE THAT RATIFIED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR THE PROGRAM EIR BACK IN 2018, WOULD BE THE GUIDING FRAMEWORK FOR THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THE SCHEDULE SET OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT. WE ALSO CAN PUT IT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK AT. THANK YOU, ANGEL. We call for a special meeting of the council on Monday, September 14th. This meeting would be publicly noticed in compliance with all relevant state laws. At the end of that meeting, the council then could continue the public hearing to future dates certain. As we do anticipate, the council will need multiple meetings to discuss the items. The proposed schedule here on the screen, sorry, it's a little small for those in the room, starting with the Monday, September 4th special meeting, which also would have a special start time of 5.30 p.m., would start off with overview of Measure JJ, general plan requirements that are applicable, and then the schedule set out here would address individual groups of different topics, again, centered around Measure JJ. ON ENERGY USE AND SUSTAINABILITY, AIR QUALITY AND GHG, LAND USE PLAN, DESIGN TOPICS, MOBILITY PLAN, PHASING AND REMEDIATION, WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, FINANCING, REVENUE POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PUBLIC FINANCING MECHANISMS. ALL OF THOSE PARTICULAR TOPICS SET OUT AT THE FIVE MEETINGS THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU THERE. WITH THE LAST MEETING PROJECTED FOR TENATIVELY FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 20TH, WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW STAFF AND CONSULTANTS TO PRESENT ANY RESPONSES TO ANY QUESTIONS POSED DURING THOSE MEETINGS. SO I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF AND END IT HERE. STAFF IS HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE ON THE REPORT.

NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU, JULIA, VERY MUCH. MAYOR PROTEMP-DAVIS.

Yeah, I just, I mean, I know obviously it was involved in this process, but I actually don't recall why some meetings are at 5.30 and some meetings are at 7.30. And I think we just like talked about the dates and like, and the subjects, but the times are throwing me off.

I THINK THE EXPLANATION TO THAT IS THE OCTOBER 15TH DATE IS A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. THAT SAID, COUNCIL MEETS AT 630 ON THEIR REGULAR MEETING. SO THAT IS AN ERROR IN THE STAFF REPORT. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IT OUT. AND WE CAN CONFIRM WITH CITY ATTORNEY THAT IF WE HOLD THAT OCTOBER 15TH MEETING, THAT you know, is it possible it could be held at an earlier time if properly? Definitely.

I just, I feel like if all of the meetings are at 530, but that one starts at 630, that people are going to show up and it's already going to have been going for an hour and they're going to be confused. We might even, you know, complicate the time of the meeting. So I would think for consistency purposes, it would make sense that all the meetings were at the same time.

Thank you.

That's it. All right. Council Member Lentz?

I don't have any questions.

Council Member O'Connell?

No questions.

Council Member Kern?

Just one question this evening. I just want to thank the subcommittee and staff for doing an amazing job at chunking this out. I know this council has read every single word of the specific plan, and this seems to make a lot of sense the way this is broken out. My question is to council. If we start on Monday, September 14th with these particular topics, do we have the flexibility to move topics around at future meetings as we're going through the meetings?

YES, SO THIS IS A PROPOSED FRAMEWORK. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION SO THAT WE CAN SET BOTH YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND THE PUBLIC'S EXPECTATIONS SO FOLKS CAN PLAN THEIR SCHEDULES IF THERE'S A TOPIC THEY'RE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN. BUT IT'S STILL JUST A FRAMEWORK. YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY DURING THE MEETINGS THAT THE AS DIRECTOR AIRES EXPLAINED THE MEETING ON THE 14TH WILL BE THE OPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WILL BE NOTICED AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO A DATE CERTAIN, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE WITH HOW YOU STRUCTURE THEM WITHOUT NEEDING TO NECESSARILY RENOTICE THOSE MEETINGS. Thank you, Eric. That's my only question.

Okay. So, Frank, you asked the question I was going to ask, so we're fine there. I have no further questions. At this point in time, we move into public comment. Anyone who has not filled out a speaker card, if you want to speak to this topic, you must fill out a speaker card, hand it to our city clerk, and we'll get you in the queue. The first one I have is Denise. Come on up here, Denise. Thank you for joining us tonight.

I'm a Brisbane resident. I may not need to say this tonight, but I'll just say it quickly. And that is, as you plan your deliberation schedule for the Baylands, I'm asking that you please carve out time for two particular issues. One is energy use and greenhouse gas impacts. AS THE CURRENT BAYLAND PROJECT PROVIDES FOR 7 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE, IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THIS AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL SPACE CREATES NINE JOBS PER EACH HOUSING UNIT. AND WITH 2200 HOUSING UNIT, THIS EQUATES TO 19,800 JOBS NEEDING TO BE FILLED. AND THAT WOULD MEAN THAT MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO COMMUTE TO BRISBANE TO FILL THE JOBS which would create more traffic for us and more greenhouse gas emissions. So I just wanted to bring that up as a topic for future meetings. And the second is the land use plan. And the Sierra Club warned us to expect between a 6 and 10 foot rise in sea level by 2100. And I just hope that the topic of toxic land mitigation will be brought up and talked about to make sure We have a backup plan if there's a breach from sea level rise or an earthquake. And that's it. Thank you. Denise, you're going to want to come to September 14th. Thank you. And October 6th, because we'll be talking about all those items that you just mentioned. Thank you very much.

Next, I have Cynthia Gomez. Cynthia, are you here? Hello. Welcome. Thank you for coming tonight.

Good evening. Cynthia Gomez. I'm a research analyst at Unite Here Local 2. Our union represents hospitality workers. I'm here with a number of Local 2 members. I'm going to ask them to please just stand behind me. Not all of them will be speaking, but we wanted to make sure that they're here.

AND THERE ARE ALSO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, AND JOBS ARE OFFICE JOBS, I WILL BE COMPUTING FOR MY HOUSING WITH PEOPLE WHO MAKE WAY MORE THAN I DO. A LOT OF THOSE JOBS WILL BE FROM THE HOTEL. AND IF THEY ARE TYPICAL LOW-WAGE DAY AND HOTEL JOBS, THERE IS NO WAY THAT THOSE COWORKERS WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE NEARBY. I'm asking you to not approve 7 million square feet of commercial space and 19,000 jobs. That is too big and is going to make housing too expensive for me, my coworkers, my neighbors, my friends. Thank you.

Thank you very much. City Clerk, do we have any other comment cards that I don't have or anyone online?

Yes, I have a comment card from Paul Buscal and Dana Dilworth in that order.

Okay. Paul Buscal, come on up. Thanks for coming tonight.

It's kind of like confession. It's been a while. So thank you, Council. Paul Buscal, Brisbane resident. A few things. The wording in the document still have paragraphs like mitigation measures will be done when feasible. That in itself is not acceptable because that opens up to obligations and responsibility as a city because we allowed things to happen with opportunities to do it or not. Because if it's feasible, who says it's feasible or not? So that's a big issue. The other issue is when they talk about open space and or open areas. Back in the day, it was 25% open space was gonna be set aside for Brisbane. And open space just means public property. It doesn't mean anything else. It's also a liability to the city, that kind of space. But open areas are, as you know, public property, private property with public access. lot of the times but the document says open space and or open areas you know once once you sign off in that document those few little words have a huge impact on this community so with all that said There's a lot of people that have a lot more to say, and at the next meeting there's going to be even more to say, but I have an idea for the Baylands. Oh, a minute and a half. Measure JJ was a scare tactic. I mean, it could have been a reality, but more of a scare tactic than anything, and it scared people in Brisbane, and we voted for JJ. because we didn't want San Francisco to come in and take over with the state and do the things they said they were gonna do. With all that said, we don't need to build houses in the Baylands. It says unregulated landfill is not where houses are gonna be built, but Earthquake Rebel is unregulated landfill. And the lead and asbestos and the Bunker C oil was after the Earthquake Rebel. So with all that said, I would like to see us not build houses in the Baylands for the reasons of liquefaction and unknowns that haven't been tested for from the earthquake rubble. And the fact that those children in the Baylands are going to be in the Bayshore School District, and the fact that Bayshore School District doesn't want anything to do with the Brisbane School District, which I believe is still happening to this day, they got their money. How about we build the houses, give the developers maybe a density transfer, and have them do some land swap with the Levinson property, protect the valuable habitat up in the Levinson property, but the lower area that's right near all the infrastructure, near Main Street and Bayshore, that's where we should build the housing. Okay, the Baylands is, oh, four seconds, three seconds. So I would like to see us move the housing development into Brisbane so those kids are in our school district, and that's something we could do now, not 10 or 15 years down the road. Thank you.

Thank you, Paul. Dana. Thanks for coming tonight.

THANK YOU. LONG TIME NO FEAR. I BELIEVE I HAVE A POINT OF ORDER THAT BASED ON THE LAST PUBLISHED PRESS RELEASE, MR. KEARN, I APPRECIATE PUBLISHED PRESS RELEASES, I BELIEVE THE GENERAL PLAN IS IN NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE AND THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED immensely since we approved JJ in 2008. And so I think proceeding with business as usual is unlawful. And I am really concerned that you have done nothing to protect us from detention centers, data centers, and all the evils that I know the county is talking about it. I know you have subcommittees, but there's nothing on the books to protect us. Thank you.

Thank you. City Clerk, do we have any other speakers?

I see one hand raised. Madam Mayor, Michelle Salmon.

Michelle, go ahead. Michelle Salmon, Brisbane resident. I just really appreciate all of the incredible work that the staff and the council are doing trying to walk the razor's edge on this nightmare. And I am so sorry that the state is using us yet again as their whipping boy, trying to make us build housing on land that I consider to be very toxic. I am concerned that the draft EIR that I last read did not cover several areas of high potential pollution, like the lead deposition from 50 years of leaded gas traffic going along Old Bay Shore and the pollution from Lazari Fuel operating for 20 or 30 years and then burning to the ground. some of the other really horrible things in that area. And yet that I, I briefly attended part of the two by two of the school district last night and they're talking, oh, it's a clean slate where you can put the school wherever you, you know, no, it's not a clean slate at all. It's extremely toxic land. And I feel like we have not completed the work that needs to be done there to make a reasonable, safe decision. both on housing and where schools should go and the paylands in general. So please, I know that we're under the gun and the builder's remedy and the state trying to beat up on us and use us as their poster child for someone who's not meeting their RENA numbers. But bear in mind that, you know, Brisbane, yeah, might be 20 square miles, but only between 3.1 and 3.5 square miles of that is land. And a lot of that is steep or polluted. And that's it. But I do really, really appreciate the work that the council has done and the staff has done and the consultants have done. And please keep at it. Thank you.

Thank you, Michelle. City Clerk, do we have anyone else on the line? Any other slips?

No more hands raised, Madam Mayor.

Okay. Council discussion. Council Member Kern.

I am, as I mentioned earlier, I'm a fan of how the work has been chunked out. I think a 5.30 start time is a great start time. It allows us to have a good lengthy meeting and get a lot of feedback and not run past midnight. So I'm thrilled with everything that's been presented here in the staff report. Thank you.

Okay.

Mayor Pro Tem Davis? I don't have much to add because this was my work product, so... Okay. Council Member Lentz?

I'm in the same boat as Mayor Pro Tem Davis. It's really up to you all if you think it's appropriate. I also do with the 530 slot for every meeting.

Okay.

Council Member O'Connell?

I'm fine with the schedule proposed. I do understand the conflicts that may arise for our regular scheduled October 15th meeting that's stated at 7.30, but I think that's something staff can work out.

Okay. And I'm okay also with the start times and the proposed schedule. And I would just add all the thanks to staff, to my colleagues, the subcommittee, the public, the developer. We are the sum of our best parts. It's going to take everyone to get through this. And everyone's voice is just as important as the person next to you. Please show up. Please bring your thoughts. If you have trouble remembering, write them all down in advance. We want you ready. I know four minutes, some people have complained, but it's four minutes. It's a good amount of time. If you make notes, you can make your point. We heard that tonight. A lot of people got through everything they needed to say. And we need to hear from you. We need to hear from all of you and your neighbors. Drag them here. This is a big project, and we want it to be very, very successful. So we need all of your best thoughts. That being said, does staff have enough direction from this? Okay. Thank you again very much for everyone who took the time to come out here tonight. It's a lot. I understand that. And sit here and sit through different things in the meeting. And that's really important to us. Next item we have is staff reports, city manager's report. We have your updates and activities.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON UPCOMING ACTIVITIES. A REMINDER THAT LABOR DAY IS COMING UP ON MONDAY, SO CITY HALL WILL BE CLOSED. ON SEPTEMBER 12TH, WE HAVE HYDRANT RESTORATION DAY. THAT'S ALL DAY. SO WE HOPE YOU WILL SIGN UP ONLINE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. THEN THERE'S LATIN HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. THAT EVENT IS ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 16TH, AND WE REALLY THANK OUR FRIENDS AT MELISSA'S TACARIA FOR PROVIDING THE FOOD Teen Nights, September 16th, the same location it typically is. And finally, the Sierra Point Yacht Club is having their annual open house, and that's on September 19th at the marina. Well, at their facility. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Future agenda items. Are there any future agenda item proposals from the council? Council Member Kern?

No.

Mayor Pro Temp?

I had one.

It escaped me. Hold that thought.

I thought of it a few days ago, though.

Okay. There's still time. Council Member Lentz?

I do not.

Council Member O'Connell?

I do, and I'm not sure if this is going to be something that we come back to the City Council on or it needs to be a subcommittee. And even if it's a subcommittee, it might be – that it needs to go beyond just Brisbane. And what I'm talking about is advanced air mobility. Right now, there's a specific threat that Cow Palace might be used for Amazon drone delivery packaging and for advanced air mobility site. That would put us in a direct line, so to speak, from the airport facility and from the existing Amazon facility with that threat. with that spot. There's also a lot of, we have a lot of vulnerability with properties here, whether it be in central Brisbane, Crocker, or at the Marina, or at the Baylands, with having advanced air mobility issues that come up. I've heard that Amazon is already sending out letters that packages may be delivered by drone. And one of my colleagues in Foster City, they have passed an ordinance, no drones. People in Foster City are still getting the memos that their packages could be delivered by drone. So I think it's something that we need to look at as a city. And it may be at a subcommittee. It might be through planning issues where we – might want to do an emergency moratorium on drone deliveries. We may want to have more specific information as far as the drones need to follow pathways of existing streets because that would keep them from doing overflights to the most direct. It may make it where it's infeasible for them. because of power lines, because we don't have undergrounding. But I think it's something that we really need to look at, and I don't think we should wait. I have been invited to an advanced air mobility symposium that is coming up in a couple weeks, and I'm hoping to be able to attend that. One of the reasons I sort of said maybe it would be inter-jurisdictional instead of just us is I would like to continue my work once I leave the council on the air mobility, advanced air mobility topic, because it's something I'm pretty heavily invested in. But again, I went a lot further than proposing a subcommittee or a topic for this group, but I think that it's going to deserve some conversation, and I don't think we should put it off.

May I ask, when you say Amazon considering the flights from their location in Brisbane, they have two locations. Are you talking about Van Waters? Do we know?

I'm not being specific about anyone because nothing has come out that I know of specifically. I just know that even cities that have moratoriums on drones are getting notified that their packages, the customers are getting notified that they might be coming by drone.

So just this is my suggestion, and we can hear from all my colleagues as well. Would you consider being part of an ad hoc committee that could, since you already have knowledge on this, look into this further? And then if you, in fact, as you expressed, wanted to reach out to other communities, that enables you to say, well, here's what we know in Brisbane. This is what we're dealing with. can you share your information, how you handled this? Would that, do you think, avail to the goal that you have?

I think that could be part of it, but I do think that the city needs to be proactive on deciding what we want in our town. And for that, we would need to have an ordinance that Flights are going to be handled by the FAA and what the FAA allows. But if we don't get in front of the technology now and right now, vertiports or heliports are a conditional use. So they couldn't be just come in by right. They would have to come for further discussion. But just like the data centers have issues associated with them, so do the vertiports and the heliports. And it's one thing if this city wants to be a hub for that kind of technology. There may be opportunities financially to be that, and there may be downpours that we don't want that. So I think that we really need to look into what legal steps we can take to protect ourselves before it's on our doorstep. having two large Amazon facilities and the possibility that Cal Palace is going to have a facility does put it on our doorstep and makes it a very urgent matter.

So I really appreciate you bringing this up. It's very timely, and I think it deserves immediate attention. And certainly an ad hoc committee could work with staff. But any other council members want to weigh in on this idea?

I do, I like the idea. May I, Madam Mayor? Please. Yeah, I do, I like the idea. Thank you for bringing it forward, Terry. Councilmember Lentz and I got a tour of the San Mateo Police Department and their drone operation there. And I guess my question at this time is the drone operation at the San Mateo County Police Department uses a technology where the drone knows how to get out of the way on its own of an aircraft. So how does what you're proposing work with like the airport roundtable? How does this all come together? I'm not seeing the clear picture and that's the reason I'm asking the question.

The airport roundtable has been getting quite a bit of information about the air mobile advanced air mobility. They have been getting information a little bit through the FAA because channels have opened up a little bit, but not much. But they're mostly getting their information through the advanced air mobility builders themselves. And all that is very rosy. The airport is being told that they have to, if something's legal, the airport has to allow it on their grounds, whether they have the infrastructure for it or not. So once vertiports and those electric vertical takeoff vehicles are allowed and are legal to fly, the airport has to accept them. They're going to have limited range. So they have about a 30 to 35-mile range right now, depending on the load. And some are – they're talking about manned, but they're also talking about unmanned. And so I think that at the airport level, at the roundtable level, no one had a problem with emergency-type things. use where you're vert reporting someone out for a medical emergency or transporting organs or doing that type of thing um when it gets down to it is where the big issues are going to be is when it's transporting a high profile or wealthy person from their home wherever to the airport And the biggest resistance has been coming from the wealthier communities because while I may want to take that helicopter, my neighbor doesn't want it landing on their backyard. And so that would be the initial customers are the very rich. But the smaller micro customers where it's the non-manned delivering whatever you need at the moment from Amazon is going to be where you get the all the time annoyance of these drones flying through and around your city. So right now it's informational. We can't act on it. But it's a very interesting topic when it gets down to what the future and potential uses and what the future and potential annoyances and pitfalls are going to be.

Fascinating. Add it to the list.

Mayor Prochok? Oh, I'm in full support. So would you be in support of an ad hoc committee?

Yeah, I mean, I think it makes sense to form an ad hoc committee, get your strategy and your bearings together, and then once you have a structure, then we can figure out how we might be able to invite other cities to participate in that. Okay.

Yeah.

Council Member Lentz?

I'm in full support of the ad hoc.

So, Council Member O'Connell, would you be willing to be on that ad hoc?

I'm willing to be on it. I just don't know how that would work when I'm no longer on it. And it might be that the start of this would be the city doing a little bit of staff doing a little research on what precautionary things we can do to do an immediate protection against unwanted traffic. or unplanned traffic. And that might grow into some sort of ad hoc coalition kind of thing in the region. But mostly it's cities within that 10 mile radius of the airport that have the opportunities pro or not, for having these vertiports and deciding how they're going to allow them, how they're going to get revenue from them, and whether they're going to tolerate the annoyance.

So since you have this expertise and staff would be potentially starting from square one, could we have a volunteer perhaps to work with Councilmember O'Connell on this? Council Member Kern.

Yes.

Would you be willing to be on the ad hoc committee to look into this?

Why not?

There we go. We have an ad hoc committee. And then if you could put together some issues and give staff a little guidance, then you can collaborate on that.

I'd love to talk with staff and appreciate the help because I do think it's really important that we get ahead of this before we're bombarded. Yes.

I remembered my thing. Oh, good. Thank you, Terry. You gave me enough time. I could remember what I wanted to say.

I haven't talked so much in a long time.

We got an email from Jason Noonan recently about that Brisbane's construction timeframe is 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. seven days a week.

Construction ordinance.

Yes, and I just wanted to get feedback from staff. Is that accurate? Is that, in fact, accurate?

That does sound accurate to me.

I can tell you, I've looked it up because my neighbors, it's what it says. That seems wild to me. And so I just, his suggestion is to review the hours in which we allow construction and to at least have one day of rest for residents. And so I don't know if there's anything in state law that says these are the times construction is able to occur regularly. statewide or if we have the flexibility to limit that. But we've got a lot of development on the horizon potentially. And I think it might be a good time to evaluate what are the reasonable hours and the reasonable days that said construction should be able to occur.

I'm very pleased that you bring this up having gone through it for a year and a half. of seven-day-a-week noise with neighbors doing construction and ready to jump out of my skin. Honestly, it gets to be a lot.

Madam Mayor, I'm sorry. I wanted to correct what I said. We have the correct information 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. during the week, but on the weekend holidays, it's 9 to 7.

Yeah, that's right. So I did want to make a comment, though. Out at Sierra Point when they were doing the construction, I think that the construction times might be different in a commercial area versus in a residential area. Because when they're constructing a large building and doing pile driving, they don't want to do it during the day when the workers are in the building. They want to do it at night, which is why we hear nighttime pile driving out at the Sierra Point. And like Caltrain has to do their construction at night.

Would that be with the permit that maybe planning tells them these are the hours you can do?

So I think that we probably do need to look at difference between residential and commercial development. And then all bets will be out the window when it comes to the Baylands because they may be side by side.

So staff, can we have a report back on construction just to review the council at a future date? Is that suitable for what you're asking?

That sounds great, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. All right. Any other proposals for future agenda items? Yeah. Okay. Report outs. I actually wanted to ask if no one has, and first, does anyone have any report outs? I do. Oh, good. You go first.

I THINK I'M GOING TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY BRIEF. I HAVE SOME UPDATES ON CAL TRAIN, LOCAL POLICY MAKERS GROUP, JUST TWO TONIGHT. I'VE WRITTEN THEM DOWN. CAL TRAIN RECEIVED TOP HONORS FROM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ASSOCIATION FOR OUTSTANDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. WE RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR THAT. WE GOT OUR SECOND CONSECUTIVE NATIONAL RAIL SAFETY AWARD AND THIS IS A BIG DEAL, A SPOT ON TIME MAGAZINE'S TEN MOST INFLUENTIAL TRANSPORTATION COMPANIES.

That's big.

So that's a big deal. And the second big deal, and this one is really big, monthly ridership reached nearly 80% of pre-pandemic levels in July, with the average daily weekly ridership exceeding 40,000 and weekend ridership surpassing pandemic levels by over 150%. So Caltrain is doing pretty well.

How's their fare box doing?

I don't have a report on that.

Okay. So we have the council subcommittee update. And I actually always like to read this. Beautification subcommittee, Davis and Kern, loved the report. Can we consider additional trees in the park? Concert in the park, everybody was just swarmed under the trees. And that's come up before with Parks and Rec. We've talked about additional trees. um where in the park community park just like but where where is there a suggestion wherever because we had the tree survey and and in the realm of all of this i know there were conversations with noreen and parks and rec we used to have more trees and they were a bunch were taken down out by the picnic tables eucalyptus yeah they were eucalyptus well there were some various small trees but There have been suggestions about restoring some more to give people some shade, especially if we have climate change and it gets really hot.

We'll take that under consideration.

Okay. And to follow up, I wonder if that's something that, like, I mean, the beautification subcommittee could certainly evaluate that. I don't know. That would be an OSEC thing that would be appropriate as well? All fronts are welcome.

Just if someone will take it up.

Let's take it around with it and we'll see what happens.

And also, what I call tree lawns, that's a Midwestern term. Council Member Kern, do you know what a tree lawn is?

I have never heard of that.

Oh, my God. You're just a disgrace. You're trying to grab the curb strip. It's between the street and the sidewalk is that tree lawn. Because that's where they put trees. So it's called, it's not just a lawn, it's a tree lawn. Okay. The city actually has jurisdiction over all those tree lawns. And the maintenance has kind of been sloppy. And I noted that you're looking at landscaping. The landscapers come in and they just hack everything off. And it's not very well planned. So if somebody could take a look at those. I don't think anyone's taken a look at them for a long time.

I THINK THAT JEREMY PROBABLY CAN PROVIDE AN UPDATE ABOUT THE ARBOR STUDY AND TREE SURVEY, OR IS THAT YOU, CHRISTINA? THIS IS BEING LOOKED AT, BY THE WAY.

ONE OF OUR STAFF JUST BECAME A CERTIFIED ARBORIST. HEGAN JUST BECAME AN ARBORIST, SO THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT, TOO.

I know that Adrian Etherton, our sustainability manager, is currently working on an RFP to begin the work on the work for the tree survey. I know that we have a big tree survey. We have a big tree hub and a tree management plan. And so the RFP will respond to that. And so we'll start chunking away at some of that work. And we can definitely look at sort of the planting plan as well as we do that.

But the tree lawns don't just have trees. They've got ceanothus. They've got other plantings that have to be maintained. And that's what somebody needs to give the landscape company some guidance.

I understand that's something that Moz is also looking at with Jeremy's guidance.

And then I'm not going to go on and on. I promise. Housing subcommittee, Davis and Lentz. that you're looking at a 45 million grant pool through OBAG 4 to support transportation-related needs in transit-oriented communities. We're paying for that shuttle. Can we get some money to help pay for that shuttle? Would you look into that, please?

I'll look into it, absolutely.

Okay. And then in the same on housing, talking about ADUs and an ADU loan program, and helping people with plans. The county has plans, I know from the planning commission, and maybe we should publicize that to the public. They're free, they're architectural plans. And there's not just one, there's several plans that you can just get for free, including guidelines on how you go about building an ADU. We haven't revisited that for a while. And then it said subcommittee recommended an MOU for consideration by the city council. Is that about loans for ADUs or policy about local preference, the MOU?

It's definitely for local preference.

Okay, great. I like that. I appreciate that. That's all I have. I really like, thank you, the report was very comprehensive. And individual preference policy, that's come up, and I'm glad to see somebody dealing with that.

You know, Madam Mayor, you've sparked my memory. I did have a county meeting. Emergency Response Council. And during that presentation, or during that meeting, there's a presentation by Cal Fire. And so there's a facility in La Honda that they constructed in response to the devastating fire in the southern part coastal area of San Mateo County. And so they're doing some prescribed burns down there. And so I mentioned, hey, you know, we haven't had a prescribed burn on San Bernardino Mountain in a very, very long time. And we have other cities around Brisbane, around San Bernardino Mountain that are vulnerable. There's a huge fuel buildup. And so I had a... A ZOOM MEETING WITH ONE OF THE STAFF PEOPLE FROM THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE COUNCIL STAFF. AND SO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BRISBAYNE AND THE OTHER CITIES TO PARTNER WITH STAFF IN THE COUNTY TO EVALUATE ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO REDUCE OUR FUEL LOAD ON SAN BRUNO MOUNTAIN. Also, of course, not having the fires also reduces the amount of grasslands for the endangered butterflies. We know that that's the habitat that they need. There's been this encroachment of coastal scrub and invasives. So hopefully in a couple weeks, they'll bring something back to me, and then I will pass that along to staff, and then hopefully we'll have something before the council to evaluate.

Thank you. That's really interesting. That's good news to hear. Along with the cows. Along with the cows. Along with the cows. I don't know if the public knows about that. You want to talk about the cows? Sure.

Well, it is a, thank you, appreciate that. It is a program that the county has been contemplating and pursuing for some time, and now it looks like it's slowly coming to fruition. The idea is that at the ridge that there would be a small number of cows in an enclosed area that would THE HILLSIDE OF PROBLEMATIC VEGETATION. SO WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE DOING IS JUST REMINDING THE PUBLIC THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION AND THAT IT MAY BE COMING A REALITY SOON.

Okay. Thank you for that.

Hopefully when they do it that they cleanse their cows first so they don't bring in invasive seeds.

Oh, okay. I was wondering what you meant about cleansing the cows. The high colonic kind. I gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. All right. Do we have oral communications, too? I have no slips for oral communications, too. Do we have anyone online that you've put in the queue for oral communications? Number two, city clerk. Oh, sorry. You've written communications as first. I got ahead of myself.

Correspondences were received from Chang, September 3rd, September 3, city council meeting. Noonan, August 31st, seven-day work week in Brisbane, note to council. Mills, September 2nd, public comment, support for Complete Streets recommendation, Halloween Street closure. Chang, August 31st, September 3rd, City Council meeting. Rodriguez, August 26th, new stop sign. Cunningham, August 26th, planning issues, subcommittee. Johnson, August 15th, request to delay consideration of Bayland's specific plan to your second meeting in September. She, council members, invitation to 2026 USA Asian Culture Food Expo, August 11th. Caro, July 30th, PCRC City Council collaboration. Salmon, August 4th, proposed street closure for Halloween. Yuan, July 27th, Baylands specific plan comments on scale, phasing, and affordability. Gore, July 22nd, say no to the Baylands project. Motwani, July 21st, comments for 721 meeting. And August 17th, Freedom Forever LLC notice of conversion from the United States Bankruptcy Court.

Okay, thank you. Now we're back to oral communications number two. Do we have anyone in the queue for oral communications at this point?

Raise hand for Michelle Salmon.

Michelle? I have three things. Number one, thank you, Jeremy, city manager, for finally getting Calippie Hill into the public domain we have waited more a dozen years and i know you took this on as a passion project to get it done and i truly appreciate it and evan cole who's the natural resources manager is well versed in the cow thing and yes terry don't worry about they will have their high colonics before they end up on our mountain we've been involved in that for a really long time the number two thing is i really do hope we look at construction times I've not been sleeping that well, but the last two nights have been woken up about somewhere around 5 a.m. to very faint pile driving or some kind of like thunk, thunk, thunk going on in the middle of the night and backup beepers from 5 a.m. to like 6.30 a.m. And, you know, Brisbane's a bowl, so you hear everything. And the third thing is thank you very much, very much for extending the comment individual comment period to a reasonable four minutes so that we can have more reasonable, thought-out comments and not people freaking out watching the dial go around at two minutes. So I do appreciate that. It does mean that you really do want to hear from the public. And thank you for all of your hard work, all of our council people and our staff.

All right. Anyone else? City Clerk?

No, Madam Mayor.

All right. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

MADAM MAYOR, I HAVE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR ONE OF OUR LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFITS.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD.

SO ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, WE'RE HAVING A FULL MOON FEVER DISCO AT THE DOUBLE TREE HOTEL BENEFITTING BRISTBAIN DANCE WORKSHOP FROM 7 PM TO 10 PM. IT'S GOING TO INCLUDE A DJ, A LIPSYNC CONTEST, A NO-HOST BAR, AND SWEETS AND SAVORY TREATS. OH, YOU NEED HELP WITH YOUR KIDS? IT'S ALSO PARENT NIGHTS OUT WITH OUR PUBLIC RECS DEPARTMENT, SO YOU'VE GOT A BUILT-IN BABYSITTER. Tickets are on sale now, and you can find them on the calendar on the city's website.

You have a second career as a radio announcer. There you go. All right. Thank you, everyone, for joining us tonight and your participation. This meeting is adjourned at 8.17.