Board of County Commissioners - Regular Meeting

Thursday, May 7, 2026

The Board of County Commissioners denied a request to rezone 7.5 acres from agricultural residential to multi-family residential for a 222-unit apartment complex. The denial was based on concerns about compatibility with the surrounding area, traffic impacts, and infrastructure capacity.

About this meeting

Government Body
Board of County Commissioners
Meeting Type
Board Of County Commissioners
Location
Brevard County, FL
Meeting Date
May 7, 2026

Transcript

664 sections (from 748 segments)

5:31 – 6:20Speaker 1

Board of County Commissioners acts as a quasi judicial body when it hears requests for rezoning and conditional use permits. Applicants must provide competent, substantial evidence establishing facts or expert witness opinion testimony showing that the request meets the zoning code and comprehensive plan criteria. Opponents must also testify as to facts or provide expert testimony whether they like or dislike a request is not competent evidence. The Board must then decide whether the evidence demonstrates consistency and compatibility with the comprehensive plan and the existing rules in the zoning ordinance, property adjacent to the property to be rezoned, and the actual development of the surrounding area. The board cannot consider speculation, non expert opinion testimony, or poll the audience by asking those in favor or opposed to stand up or raise their hands.

6:20 – 7:00Speaker 1

If a commissioner has had communications regarding a rezoning or conditional use permit request before the board, the commissioner must disclose the subject of the communication and the identity of the person, group, or entity with whom the communication took place before the board takes action on the request. Likewise, if the commissioner has made a site visit, inspection, or investigation, the commissioner must disclose that fact before the board takes action on the request. Each applicant is allowed a total of fifteen minutes to present their request unless time is extended by majority vote of the board. The applicant may reserve any portion of the fifteen minutes for rebuttal. Other speakers are allowed five minutes to speak. Speakers may not pass their time to someone else in order to give that person more time to speak.

7:04Speaker 2

Our invocation today will be delivered by Anthony Meyers, Teen Missions International. Anthony here.

7:14 – 7:34Speaker 3

Ladies and gentlemen, it's a privilege to be able to give the invocation tonight for your meeting, and thank you for your service. Let's pray. Father, we just are so grateful to be able to be here tonight, and we thank you for this beautiful day that you've made. Father, we just pray right now a blessing upon this meeting tonight. I thank you for the commissioners.

7:35 – 8:00Speaker 3

I just pray that you would open their hearts and their ears to what is being said to those who will be speaking tonight, that, Lord, you would give them a clarity. Lord, that you would give them the voices to share their opinions. And, father, that your will will be done and decisions that need to be made. And, Lord, the future of our community. Father, we're so grateful that your son died on the cross for our and we have the hope of eternal life.

8:00 – 8:31Speaker 3

And, father, there are things that mean so much more in life than some of the things that that may be talked about here tonight internally. But, father, we just know that you will be here. We ask your holy spirit to be among all the speakers who will be coming up to this podium. Give them the words to say, give them clarity, and give them a just a piece as they share what's on their hearts and their minds. And, Lord, that everything that is said and done here tonight would be pleasing to you. So we thank you for your love and your guidance in each one of our hearts today. We love you and give you the praise. In Jesus' name, and amen.

8:31Speaker 2

Amen. Amen. Thank you. Our pledge today will be led by commissioner Rob Feltner.

8:37Speaker 4

Please join me in the pledge of allegiance.

9:00Speaker 2

Okay. I'd like to officially call the meeting to order. We have no minutes on the agenda for approval.

9:07Speaker 5

Make motion for

9:10Speaker 5

I'd like to make a motion for commissioner Goodson to join us by phone due to medical reasons.

9:16Speaker 6

I'll second.

9:17 – 9:30Speaker 2

Motion and second for commissioner Goodson to join us by phone for medical reasons. All in favor say yay. Yay. Yay. Carries unanimously. Thank you. Mister chair, if I may may I just ask for

9:30Speaker 7

the record? Commissioner Goodson, are you able to see the meeting on video, sir?

9:37 – 10:08Speaker 2

Thank you, sir. Yes, Okay. Good. We have no resolutions, awards or presentations. We'll go straight to the consent agenda. Is there a card or question on the consent agenda? See none. A motion would be in order for the consent. I'll make a motion to approve consent. Motion to approve the consent agenda. All in favor say yay. Yea. Opposed say nay. Carries. Thank you.

10:08 – 10:39Speaker 2

Okay. Public comment. Item g, do we have any no public comment cards. Move on to the public hearings. We have some items that we're we're gonna hear the first just to move along quickly. Item h five has been withdrawn. So if there's anyone here for h five, it's been withdrawn. It will not be heard. So you don't have to wait here for that unless you wanna watch the show. You're welcome to stay.

10:41 – 11:10Speaker 2

Item h eight and h nine, the Turtle Mountain Ventures, that is there's a request that we table that. Two items, one is a companion item. Typically on a first request for table we honor that. So anyone here for that will need a motion to table h eight and h nine, but it won't take a second to spell that so. Well, without anything else, sir, I'll make do we

11:10Speaker 4

need separate motions on each one? You want it that way?

11:14Speaker 7

Okay. You can, to the date certain of July 9 at the five p. M. Zoning meeting.

11:19Speaker 4

Okay. I will make a motion to table H8 to July 9 at five p. M.

11:28Speaker 2

Motion and second. All those in favor say yay. Yay. Carries unanimously. Okay. Motion on h nine would be

11:37Speaker 4

in order. I will make a motion on h nine to table to the July 9 meeting at 5PM.

11:46 – 12:03Speaker 2

Motion second to table item h nine to July 9 at 5PM. All in favor say yay. Yay. Carries unanimously. Okay. So we'll move on to our agenda. First agenda item h one.

12:03 – 12:27Speaker 9

Item h one, Paul and g, Eric Dershka, being represented by Bruce Moya and Kim Rezenka, requesting a zoning classification change from RU dash two dash 10 and RU dash one dash eleven to RU Dash2Dash15 under application 25Z00062 located in District 1.

12:29Speaker 2

You're recognized.

12:30 – 13:13Speaker 10

Good evening, chairman, members of the county commission. Good evening, mister Goodson. I'm here on behalf of Millstone Ventures LLC, the contract purchaser for the Dershka property. Also here are Eric and Carrie Dershka representing the property owners. Millstone Ventures is represented by Andy Weatherford, the cofounder of Mill stone, Owen Hartman, and Sam Kramer. This is a request for rezoning of 18 o seven acres for multifamily apartments from r u two ten to R U 215. Before I begin the presentation, mister Weatherford would like to tell you a little bit about the project and our company.

13:20 – 13:37Speaker 11

Good evening, mister chairman and commissioners. I'm Andy Weatherford. I'm one of the owners of Millstone Ventures. So just wanna start with a brief introduction of our company. We're a small development shop out of Indianapolis.

13:38 – 14:27Speaker 11

My business partner and I started this company in 2017 and we're a vertically integrated real estate development company. So we're like what we like to consider a cradle to grave development shop and what that means is we're here through zoning and entitlements, we design the projects, we function as the builder of the project and then at the end of the project, we actually manage and operate the property once we've moved residents in. And we did this by design. You know, we think the advantage for us and for the communities that we build in is for every step of this project through planning and zoning, through design, construction and then the operation of the property. There's one point of contact every step of the way and that is me and my team.

14:27 – 15:34Speaker 11

So that's a little bit about who we are, the type of products that we build. We consider ourselves a luxury resort style multifamily developer. And so what that means is we deliver these projects with elevated finishes throughout the units, quartz countertops, luxury vinyl plank, flooring throughout, no carpet, wood shelving, no wire shelving, beverage coolers in the kitchen islands and high end amenities, fitness center, yoga studio, dog park, dog spas, resort style pool. On this project, we're considering a two story clubhouse for a viewing deck to view the rocket launches down here, try to keep our residents on property and off the street during those busy times and we think that'd be a great feature for our project and for our future residents. And you know being vertically integrated as I mentioned earlier, since we control construction that allows us to control our costs and what that means is that we can deliver this elevated product to our residents for just market rate rents.

15:35 – 16:04Speaker 11

So that's another advantage of our vertical integration. You know, when it comes to development, we have a very targeted approach. We try to be in places and in communities that need product like we can deliver. And that's what we're seeing down here in Brevard County and in the Titusville area. You know, there's been a lot of job growth, a lot of population growth industry, especially spaceflight and aeronautics are really taking off, but there hasn't been that much product developed here recently.

16:04 – 16:47Speaker 11

And so certainly not as much as we would expect to see with with the the amount of population growth and job growth we see happening here in Brevard County. And, you know, another trend that we're seeing is a lot of people that are holding those high paying jobs, those new jobs in those industries, they're commuting. And we think a product like ours would encourage people to come here and live, work, and play in Brevard County and the Titusville area. So that's why we're here. That's a little bit about the product that we're we're planning on developing and a little bit about our company. And just wanted to kick things off introducing ourselves and our project, and I wanted to thank you for for hearing us

16:47Speaker 2

tonight. Okay. Thank you. We have another card for Bruce.

16:55Speaker 10

I'm I'm gonna present the project now. I just wanted him to tell you about the project. So and Bruce has if you have any questions, Bruce is here.

17:02 – 17:31Speaker 10

So I know this is in your packet. This is the future land use map. All of this property is Residential 15, including the R U 111 zoned to the north. The Dershkas have assembled these 15 all that yellow is Res 15 and you can see the property boundaries are all in the Res 15 through here. These are 15 parcels that Dursk has acquired over the years.

17:31 – 18:06Speaker 10

They're now ready to retire and wish to sell the property. Some of this was zoned R U 111 back in 1955 with the Sun Valley Platte and those are the smaller lots which are not going to be used really for development. At this time, there's some wetlands on those properties so that that area will not be developed. As mentioned, all 18 acres have residential 15 future land use. The county's vision with the comp plan that was developed in 1988 was to have multifamily by the residential 15 designation.

18:09 – 18:41Speaker 10

Also, in your of the area with what is surrounding it. This is the property in black down the middle there with the red line is the Breezy lane. That's currently the access to the Dershka's home. To the north is the fire station and then to the south is the Broward County Station. I think it's a barber pill station.

18:42 – 19:00Speaker 10

Then you have many vacant lots and then the the new apartments down there to the south, the Millstone. With that, we believe this is compatible with the area. North and south is vacant. There's multifamily across the street to the north and the south. They're all old multifamily.

19:00 – 19:39Speaker 10

You have Summerhill Apartments, 2 thousand five construction. You have the WW Apartments, 19 eighty five construction, and then you have Millwright, which is brand new. We are 250 feet to the nearest single family home across State Road 405. The staff report states that the primary uses on 405 are commercial office and government facilities and that the only new development is homes and apartments. Staff report confirms that this area is not an established residential neighborhood, and this is truly undeveloped, commercially zoned land, but actually is undeveloped multifamily land.

19:40 – 20:14Speaker 10

Preliminary concurrency traffic will not cause a deficiency in the level of service. There's no school concurrency issues, and the staff report says there's no material violations of relevant comp plan policies. Any environmental issues such as wetlands will be resolved during site plan with site plan standards and engineering standards. And, again, the wetlands will be maintained except for minor impacts. Planning and zoning board recommend approval of nine to one, and we would request that you recommend approval of the residential 15 future the r U two fifteen zoning. We're here to answer any questions.

20:14Speaker 2

Okay. We do have a car for Owen Hartman.

20:18Speaker 10

He's with the developer.

20:19Speaker 2

He's he's covered. I thought he would be. We have no cards in opposition. Any questions? Yes.

20:24 – 20:35Speaker 5

I just have to disclose. I actually met with mister Zonka and the developer team for this item for approximately forty minutes on April 28 to discuss their vision.

20:35Speaker 2

Okay. Thank you. And I'll disclose that I did drive by the site today. So

20:45Speaker 4

And if there's no other discussion, I'll make a motion to approve, sir.

20:49Speaker 2

There's a motion and a second to approve. Any debate? Second. All those in favor say yay.

20:57Speaker 2

Carries unanimously. Thank you. Okay. Our next item, h one.

21:08Speaker 9

Item h two is j

21:12 – 21:27Speaker 9

Item h two is JEJ Ventures LLC. Request a zoning classification change from IU to BU two under application 26Z00002 located in District 1.

21:27Speaker 5

We don't have any cards

21:29Speaker 13

Good evening, all.

21:32Speaker 5

Sir, did you fill out the pink card?

21:35Speaker 5

Can you do it afterwards for us?

21:37Speaker 13

I absolutely can. Is it in the back?

21:39Speaker 2

Right. The table. Yes.

21:41Speaker 13

I'll be more than happy to as soon

21:42Speaker 2

as we're done here. Okay. Good. Thanks.

21:43 – 22:11Speaker 13

Alright. Yes. We would like to rezone from U 1. Is that what it says? I'm sorry. This is my first time. IU to B U 2. We plan on putting a hardware store in the front of our of those properties as well as a parking lot in the back. And to be able to have outdoor storage, we need to have moved to a B U 2, and everybody around us is already B U 2. So we asked for it, and they asked for me to be here today.

22:13Speaker 2

Okay. Good. Any questions? We have no cards in opposition.

22:19Speaker 4

I make a motion to approve,

22:20Speaker 2

sir. Motion to approve.

22:22Speaker 5

And I'll second.

22:22Speaker 2

Second. All in favor say yay. Yay.

22:26Speaker 2

Occasion that, miss Lee.

22:27Speaker 13

Thank you. I'll send I'll go back to the paperwork.

22:30Speaker 2

Yep. Great. Thank you.

22:33Speaker 2

Item, h three.

22:35 – 23:19Speaker 9

Item h three is HQW LLC and HQW Homeowners Association Incorporated request a zoning classification change from EU one and AU with a BDP to RVP and AU with a CUP for boarding of horses and horses for hire and removal of the BDP under application twenty six Z zero zero zero five located in District 1. Planning and zoning board heard this request in a unanimously recommended approval with a BDP limiting the development to 36 recreational vehicle sites in eight cabins.

23:21Speaker 2

Okay. You're recognized.

23:22 – 23:40Speaker 16

Good afternoon. I'm John Holmquist. I reside in Cocoa, Florida. This property is at 5405 West King Street or F L 520. As stated, there was a building development binding plan that was requested.

23:40 – 24:32Speaker 16

I have those to give at this time. My presentation is on slides. We can access that. So the future land use of this property is for r 15 for the southern half of the property and neighborhood commercial on the northern half. The RVP does coincide with the neighborhood commercial according to Zonia when I spoke to them.

24:35 – 25:24Speaker 16

The current building development plan on the site is for 40 individual homes. And when we reviewed this, this is definitely a highest and best use of the property if we wanted to just divide it up and sell it, but I think that would be not the best thing for the community. As regarding the R 15, if that was pursued, that would put over 300 units around this pond. And again, I think that would be a very poor use of this property. After careful consideration and speaking with several different organizations in the area from Happy Horse and Amber Acres to consulting with some family and friends in the area.

25:25 – 26:33Speaker 16

We have our civil engineered plan and are requesting for the northern portion of the property for the east, north, and west sides of the pond to be zoned as RVP and then return the southern portion of the property to agriculture. The portion of the property on one side, on the west side is currently agricultural zoned. The properties to the north and to the east that is maroon are commercial properties and the properties all around the rest of it is either agricultural, agricultural residential. The portion that we are asking to go to RVP only backs up to two residential properties. After speaking with zoning with our own plans, we plan on fencing the community properly and there's going to be 20 foot the residential property line because there's an easement there.

26:34 – 27:03Speaker 16

And then between the property line and where we are going to have our cabins or the RV spots, there's gonna be another 70 feet that we wanna keep as wooded. Our environmental report came back with no issues and we have done our preliminaries with the development and with Florida Department of Transportation for anything that is needed with five twenty.

27:07Speaker 16

would be our final ask for the change in zoning.

27:14 – 27:26Speaker 2

Do we have any questions? Okay. Thank you. Our next speaker we have any questions when we get through them. Speaker, Skip Parrish.

27:41Speaker 6

Hi. Skip Parrish, I live across

27:45Speaker 2

You might want to pull

27:46 – 28:04Speaker 6

that mic. Yes, I am a bit tall. Hi, Skip Parrish, I live at 5250 King Street, so I am basically across the street. His property is fairly long and stretches out a goodly bit. I was here for the initial initial advisory meeting. I talked to mister Holmquist,

28:05 – 28:31Speaker 6

I bad with last names. The gentleman trying to develop this. And one of my main concerns, and this is really the only thing after talking to him after the meeting when he was here last and I was here last, is about traffic. Having lived on that property off and on since the seventies. As things come out West Of 95, there can be a lot of traffic.

28:32 – 29:17Speaker 6

My main concern with that is anybody coming east from Orange County, the last red light they've seen before they get to Friday Road, is past his property, is in Wedgefield at the other end of 520. If you I don't know if it's in his plan to have a turn lane put in for this, but that would be the main thing. We we have a lot of backups and a lot of people pulling Sharp into different businesses that do not have turn lanes. There is the RV business that is right next to 95 that does not have a turn lane and that has been problematic for a lot of us that live and have lived in that area for a long time. Having talked to the developer, he's a good guy.

29:17 – 29:36Speaker 6

I think he has great interest in doing what he's doing. I'm not trying to stop it. My main concern is traffic. I've got three kids. I'm assuming at least one of them is gonna end up living on this property after I am no longer doing so. So that's just my main concern, and that's all. Thanks for your time.

29:39Speaker 2

Thank you. Lindsey Blair.

29:53 – 30:05Speaker 18

Good evening. That was just my husband. I also live at 5250 West King Street, and I'm echoing his concerns. I think the planned use is fine. I have no real issues with horses.

30:05 – 30:53Speaker 18

I like horses. But much like we see issues with people turning into the RV place right next to 95 because there is no light controlling the flow of traffic all the way from in Orange County Bifflow area all the way out to Friday Road, having the sudden stop of RVs and horse trailers turning in. I've seen just one person slowing down create massive issues. So if there's any way we can get a turn lane or something installed to make it safer for families in the area and for the the people that do plan on residing there or boarding their horses there, I think would be a benefit to the community at large. And that's it for me.

30:54Speaker 2

Thank you. Gary Sereni? Close. Close.

31:08 – 31:46Speaker 19

Hey, John. My main thing is there's a question that wasn't brought up last time. And if you could bring the survey up onto the board. On the Southwest side, there's a canal that comes from this lake. This lake is built on an aquifer, and it constantly fills all the time. And that lake that canal is the only thing that keeps that lake in check. Now the first map he had with his horse trails goes over that canal. And my question is, what is he going to do? Is there a culvert going in there? Is he completely blocking the canal?

31:47 – 32:36Speaker 19

Because if he blocks that canal, then the lake is going to overflow and the whole property is going to flood because it's on the aquifer and it's constantly running. And there's canal that runs completely along the south side of the property, and that canal supplies water to the pond on my property, which I live on the end of Samard Lane, and my neighbor's property has a pond, and it fills both of those with constant with water. Otherwise, if there wasn't any water that they would just kill all the fish and everything that's in there. So my question is, what he's gonna do with that canal on both of them, the where the horse trail goes across and then where he's been in the horse barns along the south side there to mitigate the water issue that's coming through there?

32:37Speaker 2

Okay. I can ask that. I can ask that if he wanted to answer that or if he sure. Yes. You can come up. Yes. Oh, you can come up. Get you on the record.

32:55 – 33:33Speaker 16

Southside Canal and the drainage from the pond are going to be maintained. We're putting in a bridge for lack of better words. It's it's it's going to be a culvert pipe, but it's going to be oversized culvert pipe so that we can have a horse trail and we plan on putting guardrails on the side of it so that it has an equestrian look to it. To answer the other questions that we went through here already, Our preliminary with the FDOT said that we do not need a turning lane, we're requesting from them that we can have at least a 40 foot turning lane at our cost put in because of that very situation. Again,

33:33 – 33:52Speaker 16

been when they put a light on Friday Road, I thought the whole world changed because I've I've been up and down this area since the eighties. So I agree. Civil engineering. Yeah. And civil engineering is doing, you know, the the work on all that right now. Anything else?

33:52 – 34:10Speaker 2

I have a question while you're up. The and maybe a staff, I don't know. The issue of trailers slowing down the turn into the project, will there be a d x l lane built? Is that required?

34:10Speaker 16

It's not required by FDOT at this time, but we request that we can do that for that very reason. We think just with the continued development of this area, it's going to be a concern.

34:21Speaker 16

So we're trying to stay ahead of the game on that.

34:26Speaker 21

Mr. Chair, believe that would be something we would look at with DOT through the site planning process to make determination with the appropriate traffic improvements.

34:35Speaker 2

Would required. I would Yes, sir. Road is busy as this.

34:38Speaker 21

I don't know that it would be required, but it would definitely be something that we take a look at.

34:43Speaker 2

Okay. You're seeking permits to do that? Correct. Okay. It makes sense. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions? That's all our cards.

34:55Speaker 4

If that's it, sir, I'll make a motion to approve.

34:58Speaker 5

And I'll second.

34:59Speaker 2

There's a motion second to approve.

35:00Speaker 22

If we make, mister chairman Yes.

35:02Speaker 4

Go ahead. Oh, I'm I'm sorry. Yes. Sir, just so we're clear, we are good with the the BDP, right, the applicant.

35:10Speaker 1

If we So this

35:11Speaker 2

is the first time Let's withdraw that motionless here from staff and then we'll I apologize, mister chairman,

35:15 – 35:45Speaker 22

but that's the first time we've seen this BDP, we it has not been reviewed. So typically the process would be, you know, we approve a BDP in principle, we work with the applicant to and we'll bring it back for final approval by the board. We would ask that be the case here. Well, no particular term sticks out to me as wrong. It may be missing some of our standard language that we have. It may actually be overly restrictive even on what, you know, accessory buildings, things like that can be used. So we would just ask that to work with the applicant to finalize it and bring it back to the board.

35:46Speaker 2

Okay. So what forms of the motion take here then?

35:51Speaker 22

Approve with the BDP is fine. Just just as one note for the record that you're not approving

36:26Speaker 5

record that I met with the developers for item h four on May 5 for approximately thirty minutes to discuss their vision of the the project. Okay.

36:38 – 37:15Speaker 9

Item h four is Dominique f Culpepper, Ralph Williams the third. Ralph Williams the fourth. Erica Williams being represented by Antonio Owens requesting zoning classification change from AU to RU two fifteen under application 26Z00004 located in District 2. And planning and zoning unanimously recommended approval with a BDP limiting structures to one story buildings and occupancy limited to only senior residents.

37:16 – 37:34Speaker 23

Good evening, chairman and commissioners. My name is Tony Owen and I represent the owners on the rezoning of this property. What I have here on the zoning map is the Tropical Park.

37:34Speaker 24

This is the this is

37:35 – 37:59Speaker 23

the property here in the in the center here. What's surrounding it is RU 215, RU 212, a school, and there is RU 19 residential next door to it. Just asking that we get approval to do R U 215 without binding development plan.

38:02Speaker 2

Okay. Do we have any oh, there's another card. Chris Reese.

38:08Speaker 8

Chris there. But I'm I'm good.

38:10Speaker 2

Okay. Good. Alright. Thank you. Okay. Alright. We have no cards in opposition. Any questions in motion?

38:19Speaker 8

I'd like to make a motion, chair.

38:23Speaker 8

I would like to make a motion, chair.

38:26Speaker 2

Okay. Go ahead.

38:28 – 38:46Speaker 8

I make a motion to approve the r u two fifteen with the BDP that limits the structure should single story and residents for senior citizens. I also would like to allow all the permitted uses of r u 19, which is compatible with the surrounding area.

38:49Speaker 8

With the understanding chair, it would have to come back to staff for them to review. The BP.

38:59 – 39:16Speaker 2

Is that motion any comment? You okay? We're good. Alright. Good. A motion by commissioner Goodson. There a second? Alright. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Carries unanimously. Thank you so much. We'll move on to h five.

39:18Speaker 4

Do we have any That's one withdrawn,

39:19Speaker 5

That's withdrawn. We have h six next.

39:25Speaker 16

He already said

39:26Speaker 9

it. We're gonna move on to item h h

39:30Speaker 9

That's okay?

39:31Speaker 2

That was h five. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's right. We tabled that. Yes.

39:35 – 39:50Speaker 9

Marisic Family Trust being represented by Kim Rezinka requests a zone classification change from AU and GU to EU under application 26Z00003 located in District 2.

40:01Speaker 2

There's a motion for approval. Is there a second? You don't have cards. I don't think we have any other cards, but Kim Rozenko.

40:07Speaker 5

I'll second.

40:08Speaker 2

There's a second. All those in favor say yay.

40:14Speaker 2

Motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Okay. We will move to h seven.

40:23 – 41:31Speaker 9

Item h seven, Merritt Bitco, SPV LLC being represented by Kim Rezanka, requesting zoning classification change from AU with a BSP to r u two fifteen and r u two thirty with removal of BSP under application 25Z00054 located in District 2. And I also like to note on April 2, the board of county commissioners continued this item at the applicant's request to to its May 7 meeting which is tonight zoning meeting. The applicant stated the reason for the request was to for the continuance was because the entity is investigating the possibility of acquiring additional property adjacent to the current proposed apartment site and they were reviewing potentially modifying the proposed number of units considering further modifications to access to the site and for off-site improvements. As of this date, the accounting staff has not received an amendment to the application.

41:32Speaker 26

Mister chair, if I may?

41:34 – 41:58Speaker 5

Just for the record, I want to let everyone know that on May 7, I had approximately fifteen minute phone call with miss Rizanka regarding this item. Oh, sorry. Yesterday on May 7, I had approximately fifteen minute phone call with Kim Rizanka regarding this item. Yesterday.

41:59Speaker 10

Actually, it was this morning.

42:01Speaker 5

It was this morning. It was this morning. Yeah.

42:04Speaker 17

Yeah. Don't worry. We

42:25 – 42:49Speaker 10

Alright. Good evening, chairman, members of county commission. Kim Rizenka on behalf of Range Water Development LLC with authorization from the owner, Merit Bidco SPV LLC, to file for the rezoning. Because of the anticipated number of speakers and almost a thousand pages in the agenda, I'm going to ask for thirty minutes total for my team and my experts to present.

42:52 – 43:10Speaker 2

Okay. That's that's allowed on our procedures to make that request and it's required that the board of commissioners have the vote to grant that. So is there a motion to grant an additional fifteen minutes?

43:12Speaker 4

I'll make a motion to give the applicant total of thirty minutes. Does that does that include the closing and everything?

43:21Speaker 10

Rebuttal experts everything.

43:22Speaker 4

I I think we usually have a rebuttal we usually have a rebuttal period off afterward anyways.

43:27Speaker 4

Alright. Thirty minutes.

43:29Speaker 5

If that includes everything, I'll second it.

43:31 – 43:49Speaker 2

Yeah. And I guess your experts could have filled out a separate card. They got time. But one question that I'd just like to clarify. I think the those in opposition, have they hired counsel? Have they hired an attorney? Are they here to speak?

43:50Speaker 5

If they are, then.

43:52 – 44:07Speaker 2

If they are, we should grant them the same request if they need it. So okay. There's a motion and a second for an additional fifteen minutes for counsel, expert witnesses, and consultants. All in favor say yay. Yay. Carries unanimously. Okay. Thank you.

44:07 – 44:20Speaker 10

Thank you. I do want to thank all of you and your staff. This has been a long process. You have fielded numerous calls, meetings, as I said, almost a thousand pages. And I know it's taken a lot of time, so we really do appreciate the fact that you've listened.

44:20 – 45:08Speaker 10

You've listened to everyone, and it's it's been noted. The rezoning for residential apartments is opposed by many, including in other states in this country from California to New York and other countries, including Spain, India, Egypt, and Pakistan. The public resistance is an emotional reaction to change, a concern for the loss of vacant land that has never been developed, and the fear of the unknown. Rangewater understands this and has and will continue to work with the neighbors, the neighborhoods, FDOT, the school district, the sheriff's office, and others agencies to construct and manage a first class luxury apartment complex. During this rezoning started we rezoning process, we started with a meeting with MIRA staff.

45:09 – 45:49Speaker 10

MIRA staff at that time was supportive of this and said it was a very necessary project in this area. We had a community meeting in November and there was opposition. And from that meeting, Michael Oliver, the representative from Rangewater met with several one on one to try to to assuage them, and that has resulted in the conditions in the binding development plan that's in your packet. Speaking with staff, they have some concerns about some of those conditions, and if this approved, we'll certainly work with staff to make sure that the binding development plan meets the county code. Rangewater accepted many of these comments and feedbacks and has substantially changed the design from where they started.

45:50 – 46:16Speaker 10

It has offered the BDP with limitations and improvements, including a turn lane on Pioneer to assist with the traffic at that intersection of Pioneer and State Road 3. Rangewater hired a traffic consultant to prepare a full traffic impact study. The last one dated 03/05/2026, which is in your packet. There's actually three traffic studies that were done based upon comments by staff. Usually, TIS is not required or needed until site plan.

46:17 – 46:52Speaker 10

Again, we have prepared the binding development plan, the VDP, so everyone knows what this project's going to be about. They're gonna know the units, they're gonna know the the locations, the setbacks, the buffers, things along those lines. So it's to be transparent so everyone knows what's going to go there. It has offered a proportionate fair share contribution if there's one necessary during the site plan process and to work with FDOT if there are improvements necessary. The VDP is to ensure that the multifamily use can coexist with neighboring properties and not negatively impact other land uses, conditions, or neighbors.

46:52 – 47:45Speaker 10

We're here tonight with the developer and the experts to present evidence and to inform you of the need for the rezoning and the legal support for the rezoning. With us is Michael Oliver, the representative Kyle Shastine of Bowman, the engineer of record Trent Ebersol, a traffic engineer, and they will be talking during this time frame. Brief overall overview of the project is rezoning of 7.5 acres adjacent to single family homes to R U 215 and rezoning west on State Road 3 Of 3.66 acres to R U 230, a total of 222 units possible. It's also seeking a removal of a nineteen eighty three binding site plan for hospital and CUPs for hospital and medical clinics. So this will remove those uses, which currently according to Trina Gilliam is the only use of this property is for a hospital medical clinic.

47:46 – 48:17Speaker 10

This property is vacant and be and behind old nineteen eighty six medical buildings. There's a double wide trailer located on it next to the single family subdivision. The adjacent medical offices are not maintained and were subject to a bankruptcy proceeding when Steward went out of off went out of business. It is unkempt and underutilized property. As shown on the screen and in your packet, the property sought to be rezoned to R U 215 is Residential 15.

48:17 – 48:52Speaker 10

Again, was the intent in 1988 when the comp plan was adopted when mister Altman, chairman Altman, sat on this very board and adopted the comp plan. And that was the intent of the comp plan was that to be 15 units the acre multifamily. To the west of that is neighborhood commercial and it's in a neighborhood commercial area. There is not a single single family home along State Road 3 from Skyline Boulevard North to State Road 528. This Res 15 and neighborhood commercial has not changed, the comp plan was adopted in 1988.

48:53 – 49:33Speaker 10

This is adjacent to res Residential 66 units of the acre, which are two single family developments. But again, Residential 6 is land use, affords a transition and density between higher urbanized area and lower intensity land use, and that is what this is. This is a transitional use from single family to commercial uses in a commercial corridor. I provided a nine page memorandum on 04/24/2006 and request that be incorporated by reference into my presentation. There have been so many things stated about this project that it was necessary both from this as to what staff and the addendum stated into what two residential opponents have stated.

49:34 – 50:05Speaker 10

I do want to look at one of the issues of compatibility in the surrounding uses. Page eight of the staff report has often been cited in emails that have come before you as to administrative policy three. Administrative policies three requires compatibility with existing or proposed land uses to be a factor, and you shall consider whether the proposed use would have hours of operation, lighting, etcetera, similar to other uses. This is a residential use. It's just multifamily.

50:06 – 50:43Speaker 10

Whether the proposed use will cause a material reduction in value of existing lands. There's no information. There's no MAI appraiser that has said it will. Whether the proposed use is consistent with an emerging or existing pattern as determined through the analysis of historical land patterns, actual development, and development approved. And when you look at what the staff says in a staff report as to historical land uses, it says it's not consistent with the pattern of surrounding development, which is single family and medical facility.

50:43 – 51:09Speaker 10

No. It's a transition, and it but it could be considered a transition from high intensity, which it is. But it does go on to state there's all kinds of mixed use future land uses in this area. And then it goes on as also the actual development, is either or hysterical, historical or actual. And there's an assisted living facility immediately to the south, and that is at 20 beds to the acre.

51:09 – 51:43Speaker 10

It is a multifamily use. Administrative the character of the neighborhood has also been cited. Again, this is a transitional area. It's got multifamily. It's got across the street. It's got single family. It has Starbucks. It has assisted living facility. It has a bank, and it has medical use adjacent to this property. This property will not introduce traffic into the identified boundaries of these subdivisions.

51:44 – 52:27Speaker 10

These people are not going to go into their subdivisions. The access is on Pioneer And State Road 3. Any statement that the character of these two neighborhoods will be a materially character of the neighborhoods will be material or adversely affected is pure speculation. The access to the property will primarily be from State Road free with some accessing Pioneer Road, but the residents and guests of the apartment complex will have no reason to travel into Raintree or Villa De Palma. Based upon the recent development of the 10 acres of commercial land to the south of this property, the Starbucks assisted living facility, Space Coast Credit Union, and Twins Car Wash.

52:27 – 53:11Speaker 10

This area is transitional and not primarily residential. This rezoning is supported by the MIRA staff report of 12/11/2025, which stated the requested rezoning is consistent with the county comp plan and the Myra redevelopment plan, and this is definitely in the Myra redevelopment area. This portion of Courtney Parkway exhibits a robust mixture of commercial businesses and single family residential property. In Merritt Island, there exists a deficiency of newly constructed multi family rental units. However, because of increased employment opportunities in the space industry as well as the tourist industries and other industries at Port Canaveral, individually seeking to fill those vacancies require housing that is proximate to their work.

53:11 – 53:43Speaker 10

Apartments appeal to younger individuals because of decreased maintenance, enhanced security features, amenities such as on-site fitness and common gathering and a sense of community. Clearly, a request for development in multifamily. Also, Dmerit Island redevelopment agency mission statement says that they need housing to support the workforce. The MIRA board did vote against it saying they needed more information. Because of that, we got the traffic impact study to assist with the information that they sought.

53:46 – 54:05Speaker 10

This luxury apartment complex is a logical transition from res six single family to commercial uses, and it was intended by the comp plan drafters back in 1988. With that, I'm going to bring up Michael Oliver to discuss the specifics of the projects and the conditions. Thank you.

54:12 – 54:43Speaker 27

Good evening, chairman, commissioners, staff, and members of the community. My name is Michael Oliver, and I represent Rangewater Real Estate tonight. I am a Florida resident, and I manage Rangewater's development platform across the state. Rangewater has developed two properties here in Brevard County, both within the Viera community here. Across Florida, we have delivered 27 communities and more than 100 nationally.

54:43 – 55:27Speaker 27

We have twice been recognized as the National Association of Home Builders Developer of the Year. We are excited about the opportunity to develop our third community in Brevard County on this property in Merritt Island. Tonight, I'd like to focus on three points. First, as Kim mentioned, this rezoning request is consistent with the 1988 Brevard County comprehensive plan. Second, we have listened carefully to the surrounding neighborhood and made substantial changes and concessions to our plan in direct response to the community feedback.

55:27 – 56:10Speaker 27

Those commitments are memorialized in our binding development plan. Third, Brevard County's economy continues to grow rapidly around the Kennedy Space Center and Port Canaveral. Yet, as Kim mentioned and as Myra notes, new housing options near these employment centers remains very limited. This projects project represents more than a $55,000,000 investment in Merritt Island and helps address that need. Over the past nine months, we have spent significant time meeting with nearby residents and addressing concerns.

56:11 – 56:44Speaker 27

Many of those same concerns will be raised again tonight. And I would ask the board to consider the meaningful concessions we have already made. The property has 13 direct residential neighbors. In response to concerns about compatibility and proximity, we have committed in the binding development plan to a 100 foot setback along the eastern property line. That is five times greater than what is required by zoning.

56:45 – 57:19Speaker 27

We also committed to preserving existing trees along the north and east property lines to create additional buffering and privacy. We heard concerns regarding wetlands, and we completed delineations very early on in the process that were accepted by staff at the St. Johns River Water Management District. We are preserving the vast majority of wetlands on the site in compliance with Brevard County regulations. We also heard concerns about building height.

57:20 – 58:00Speaker 27

As a result, we moved away from a four story product and instead proposed a three story garden style community that better transitions to the surrounding homes. While it is not in the binding development plan, we are willing and able to provide a 200 foot any with any buildings within a 200 foot setback from the eastern property line to be two stories. We heard concerns regarding stormwater. Modern stormwater standards are stringent, and the project will not move forward unless it fully complies with all county and state regulations. Traffic.

58:01 – 58:25Speaker 27

Although a traffic impact analysis was not required for this rezoning, Rangewater voluntarily completed one because we took the community's concerns seriously. The study was reviewed and accepted by county staff and concluded that the project would not negatively impact the roadway level of service on North Courtney Parkway or Pioneer Road.

58:34 – 59:11Speaker 27

also committed to tripling the length of the right turn lane on Pioneer Road to help reduce congestion during peak hours. I think it's important to recognize what could otherwise be developed on this property today. The site, as Kim mentioned, has a conditional use permit that could allow for a twenty four seven ambulatory care hospital with minimal setbacks and minimal buffers. The existing owner of this property is motivated to sell the property. So I would ask the commission this.

59:12 – 59:25Speaker 27

Is a three story and potentially some buildings two stories garden style multifamily community less compatible with the neighborhood than a hospital use directly adjacent to their

59:30 – 59:49Speaker 27

economic engine of Brevard County is centered around Kennedy Space Center and Port Canaveral. Blue Origin continues to expand. They just doubled committed to doubling the size of their manufacturing facility on Merritt Island. SpaceX continues to grow. Port Canaveral is now the busiest cruise port in the world.

59:49 – 1:00:36Speaker 27

These employers are creating jobs rapidly, but housing diversity near these employment centers continues to lag behind demand. At the end of the day, we understand that not everyone supports growth. We believe this property is located on a major corridor, urban corridor identified for redevelopment and diverse housing opportunities. Our proposal creates an appropriate transition between the existing neighborhood and North Courtney Parkway while bringing new investment, additional housing options, and economic benefit to Merritt Island. Rangewater is prepared to invest more than $55,000,000 into the community, and we respectfully ask for your approval tonight.

1:00:37Speaker 27

Thank you for your time and consideration.

1:00:40Speaker 29

Mister Oliver, reaching the era and comparing

1:00:43Speaker 10

it with that area of Maritime is like comparing a proctor with direct.

1:00:49Speaker 2

Not a card. We're welcome. And we're gonna give you five minutes. So

1:00:59 – 1:01:15Speaker 30

Good evening. My name is Kyle Shastine. I'm with Bowman. Bowman will be the site engineer for this project. I'm a licensed professional engineer in the state of Florida and I've been practicing land development in the state of Florida for ten years.

1:01:16 – 1:01:53Speaker 30

I've been working with Rangewater on this project and they have developed this conceptual site plan. I just wanted to highlight some things that Michael has already covered in his presentation to kind of visually depict it to, the commission. You can see along the eastern buffer, this is the enhanced buffer that he mentioned to the existing residential neighborhood here. He also mentions an enhanced buffer along the northern portion of the park property that will be zoned r s 15, adding additional buffering to the residential houses here. Oh, sorry.

1:01:55 – 1:02:37Speaker 30

They will also maintain and keep any existing vegetation where feasible along those buffers to help with buffering to the to the community. He did mention that there are wetlands on-site that have been delineated better understanding then able And seeing a we'll course be approved by the county and the state during the site plan process. There's also an existing bald eagle nest that will probably come up tonight. It's located in the vicinity of the property but it is not on the property. It's to the Southeast.

1:02:37 – 1:03:11Speaker 30

You can see this line here is the required setback by FWC to be met. So this project will meet all requirements of FWC regarding the the bald eagle nest. Mister Oliver did mention off-site improvements. The site plan shows where those are to be located. This is the turn lane on Pioneer Lane and then there will also be turn lanes on Courtney Parkway. I have Trent Ebersol here. He is do to we're right

1:03:19Speaker 1

opportunity to

1:03:20 – 1:04:03Speaker 31

speak. Do Trent And Ebersole with Bowman, the the traffic engineer. I am a registered professional engineer in Florida, thirty seven years of experience, and I have been accepted as subject expert in judicial proceedings. With the time that's left, I'm going to most of what I was going to say has already been said to some degree, I'm going to jump to the end and actually state why this is a favorable project as far as development is concerned with regard to traffic. And I do understand where the statement was made and it's true that this project, the site traffic will not worsen the levels of service on any of the facilities in the study area.

1:04:03 – 1:05:09Speaker 31

I understand the concerns because there are some existing congested movements in particular the westbound left approaching approaching Courtenay Parkway from Pioneer Road. So with regard to that, Kyle mentioned, if I could just change the graphic real quick, that part of our proposal is to lengthen the westbound right turn lane. So today the left turn movement is so long, queue that it blocks the ability for traffic to get into the right turn lane on the top that's the existing condition, the red cars would be those wanting to turn left, blue cars not all or the right turns that can't get in there. With the lengthening of that right turn lane, the delays for people wanting to make a right will be eliminated. There will actually picture, the amount of trips that this project would put on that that heavy movement of the westbound left turn would be about one vehicle every two minutes.

1:05:10 – 1:05:47Speaker 31

So to the naked eye, if you're out there and you looked at it today and you went back and looked at after the this was built, built, you would not notice the difference in in traffic. To to further that point, the traffic that would be generated by the by right use of the hospital would be four times as many trips. So this is in effect a very large reduction in the potential traffic for development on this site. The only way that it would be less in effect would be to not develop anything and so that's really the question here is what would be development. If there will be, this is a very favorable development. And with that, I'm available for questions. Okay.

1:05:52Speaker 2

Is that the applicant are you Yes. It is. Do we have any questions? Yes.

1:05:57 – 1:06:09Speaker 5

So you mentioned possibly part of it would be two story. Can you tell me where that would be, and is that actually reducing the number of units? Units?

1:06:21 – 1:07:01Speaker 27

So we right now, this is where I'm pointing right here is about a a 100 foot building setback. What we're committing is that any unit within 200 feet, which runs pretty much from this line line right here, 50 foot taper down here would be we can commit to two stories. At this time, I I don't know how that affects our unit count. We would still request res r u two fifteen, but we're willing to commit to a two story product so that there's no concerns about anyone anyone's units looking into any rear backyards.

1:07:01Speaker 5

But we don't but you don't know how many units that would reduce by?

1:07:05Speaker 27

it would likely reduce the unit count by maybe 10.

1:07:10Speaker 5

Thank you. Yes.

1:07:14Speaker 2

Okay. That was one of my questions. I do have another a couple questions. When you say garden style, what what does that mean? What

1:07:22 – 1:08:03Speaker 27

what's the It's a it's a lower density multifamily development style. Yes. Does it does it it sounds like it denotes more vegetation, garden. It's it's surface part. It's more, you know, R U 215 requires a certain amount of open space. I believe it's off the top of my head, I believe it's 35%. R U 230 is slightly less than that, but it's it's open space. It's surface parking rather rather than a structured parking deck, but that's the definition of garden style apartment as I define it.

1:08:03 – 1:08:23Speaker 2

And the other question I had, I know in the presentation, you mentioned that this would be a high quality residential Yes. Multi family residential development. What in your bonding development plan commits you to a high quality verse what would be a non high quality?

1:08:27 – 1:09:00Speaker 27

We as a developer develop luxury apartment communities across The United States. We have developed two properties here in Viera, Marisol at Viera and Azul at Viera. I would define those as high end, high quality multifamily developments. I understand that Viera is very different than Merritt Island, but I'm I simply was noting that we've done business in Brevard County. We've developed in Brevard County, we like Brevard County and I was providing that as an example.

1:09:01Speaker 2

So what is it that makes it higher quality? Is it the design? Is the exterior finishes? Is the windows? What what are you doing?

1:09:11 – 1:09:45Speaker 27

It will be the from the exterior finishes in the rents that this property will command are north of $2,000 per unit that will likely be higher than many mortgages in the surrounding broader MSA. So when we look at that, we'll have quartz countertops, we'll have, you know, enhanced cabinet finishes, you know, as Millstone developed previously, there's LVT, you know, flooring throughout the the the units. It's a a luxury finish package that we provide to the

1:09:45Speaker 2

residents. Okay.

1:09:46 – 1:09:58Speaker 27

Thank And we professionally manage the communities internally. We manage 75,000 multifamily units across The United States. We're a top 25 property manager nationally.

1:09:59Speaker 2

Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Any other questions? Commissioner Goodson, do you have a question?

1:10:06Speaker 8

No, sir. I do not. Not at this time.

1:10:08 – 1:10:26Speaker 2

Okay. Okay. If that is the applicant's finished, we will now go to the cards. First speaker, Ray Ann Saenz. Yes. Five minutes per speaker.

1:10:29Speaker 25

Good evening. I live

1:10:32Speaker 32

in the Raintree development that they're speaking about just behind this complex. Been there for two the mic.

1:10:38Speaker 2

Yeah. You don't pull that mic down.

1:10:39Speaker 10

little short, so

1:10:40 – 1:11:00Speaker 32

excuse me. I live in the Raintree development behind the proposed development. I've been there for twenty one years, so I've raised two children there. They both gone to Lewis Carroll, and I have my oldest daughter also has a home there. So I'm very concerned some of the issues that have come up, especially traffic.

1:11:03 – 1:12:10Speaker 32

I find it hard to believe that there will not be more traffic there, is already highly congested, especially with the Starbucks and at the school hours. It's very difficult to get in out and onto Courtney Parkway. I can say that with firsthand knowledge. But I'm here today to point out the administrative policy four, which talks about no new intensity of traffic. Under administrative policy number four, the proposed use must not materially and adversely impact an established residential neighborhood by introducing types or intensity of traffic, including but not limited to volume, time of day, traffic activity, different types of vehicles, parking, trip generation, commercial activity, or industrial activity that is not already present within the identified boundaries of the neighborhood.

1:12:11 – 1:12:43Speaker 32

I believe that the developers own roadway capacity analysis confirms this project will add 855 daily trips to the Courtney segment alone, consuming 25% of the remaining capacity with additional trips flowing onto Pioneer Drive that the developer did not even study. A development of this scale would fundamentally change what our neighborhood is, and I'm asking that you would disapprove of this project. Thank you.

1:12:49 – 1:13:01Speaker 2

Thomas Reedy. Thomas Reedy. And the next speaker will be Robert Baker. So he may be ready.

1:13:02 – 1:13:31Speaker 24

Hi. Good evening. My name is Thomas Reedy, and I am here to oppose the development case number 25Z0054, the proposed 220 unit three story complex. This development, in my opinion, is not appropriate for this location. It places a high density multi story complex directly in the middle of an established single family neighborhood that's incompatible with the that we currently have there.

1:13:31 – 1:14:13Speaker 24

I know there were some issues brought up about the zoning and everything, but in talking to some of the staff that I spoke with yesterday, Courtney was designed to have commercial on the front, residential in the back. And, you know, everything that was stated, yes, there is a commercial site directly across the street from that with the, you know, the assisted living home, the bank and such. But, again, that's commercial, and that's what it was designed for. It wasn't designed for a large complex like this. And, again, I know you've heard about the you know, I'm I'm not gonna go really into a lot about the traffic, but, you know, the traffic is a big concern.

1:14:13 – 1:14:32Speaker 24

And my question is, has anybody here any of the commissioners actually went out and and witnessed it? Team? Are you know, have you have you seen it? You know, you're you're seeing a lot of issues. You're hearing a lot about traffic, but has anyone gone out there to to witness it?

1:14:32 – 1:14:59Speaker 24

I mean, when the when the when the bridge is up, it backs way up during you know, when everybody's letting out, you know, coming south on Courtney from the space center. It created a huge impact there. I mean, a lot of us that live there on the weekends now with the port traffic, you can barely move on 528. I mean, it's it's it's it's a very, very congested area. So, I mean, that's something else to look at.

1:15:00 – 1:15:33Speaker 24

You know, there are a few things about the traffic. It increases the congestion and safety risk that are currently there. The about the FDOT that's possibly putting in the medium all the way down past Publix, which is gonna there's the turn lanes are going to disappear. You know, there could be a delay in emergency response times, and it's it's or it's gonna overwhelm the intersection that cannot realistically be expanded with just the right turn lane to court need to head north. The infrastructure we haven't talked about is strained.

1:15:33 – 1:16:06Speaker 24

I live in the in Via The Palmas. And in the last six months, we've been out of power eight times. No hurricane, no storms, and the infrastructure, which basically the where Via Della Reina and it backs up to Raintree, power, you know, the power poles are in that area, which causes a lot, and now this will be there. Also, was a lot of work that was done on the sewer system, and they're still continuing to work on it. Every once in a while, we see Brevard County out there looking at it.

1:16:06 – 1:16:57Speaker 24

They did put in a couple of new lift station in lift stations in, but it was in in a it was an issue at that time, and I'm I'm afraid that it's going to be a continuing issue. You know, there this area is vulnerable to flooding as we discussed in the past on previous meetings, especially in Sykes Creek in that area, Sykes Creek Cove. So without this, you know, this, I think, you know, with non permeable area that this is going to be built on, the rainwater has to go somewhere. And I know we discussed that about ponds and such, and there is wetlands in there. But, you know, in closing, this project would permanently change our neighborhoods and reduce our quality of life and also potentially putting our residents at risk because, yes, the people are gonna come out.

1:16:57 – 1:17:39Speaker 24

You know, right now, people that live in the other development behind us on the Via De Harvey, nobody goes out to court I'm sorry. Nobody goes out to the end of Via De La Reina. They all go past you know, they go down Via De La Reina. They go down Sykes Street Cove, and everybody goes to the light. Currently, right now, in that residential area where we have over 500 homes or more. So with all that being said, I respectfully urge the commission to deny this case and and also to, you know I'm just asking that you really consider opposing this. Thank you for your consideration. Thank you.

1:17:46Speaker 2

Robert Baker. And the next speaker will be Valerie Vreedy.

1:17:56Speaker 15

Good evening, y'all. Can

1:17:59 – 1:18:17Speaker 15

Yes. Not really. Not really? Alright. Is that better? Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. So my name is Robert Baker. I live at 2395 Sykes Creek Drive. When I got out of the military, we moved back to Florida. I'm a native Floridian. Love it here. Absolutely. We're stoked to come back here.

1:18:18 – 1:18:48Speaker 15

Like I said, we bought our house nine years ago. Great. High finish floor elevation in the waterfront neighborhood is it was everything we could dream of. And then as the development started to happen with Hampton Manor and Starbucks and all that stuff, you know, everybody is everybody wants to talk about how, you know, that development is, you know, it's zoned for commercial, which is true, and that's fine. But the s the I think the important aspect to consider there is is it necessarily right as further development right.

1:18:48 – 1:19:24Speaker 15

We've seen my house is flooded three times since 2021. I have no documented history. My house was built in 1980 and there's no documented history that has been disclosed to me that that property has ever flooded once. And I think what's even more concerning is that, you know, the team proposing this development dismissed all of our concerns as fear of change as opposed to it being legitimate concern for houses and properties that we've invested in for schools that our kids go to and we want them to go there safe. I sent you guys thank you.

1:19:28 – 1:20:08Speaker 15

I sent the board pictures today of vehicles that were going up the middle of the two yellow lines as that as it was backed up down Pioneer trying to get Lewis Carroll to let out. And I'm sorry. A 350 foot turn lane going into a development of what's probably gonna be around another thousand people is not gonna mitigate that. So in, you know, in the side of that, our aging infrastructure, like the gentleman before me brought up, we were we've never had any sort of power loss. And then all of a sudden, I had actually sent you guys pictures of that too, FP and L coming out because the storm water is so high, it's overwhelming the switches that are there.

1:20:08 – 1:20:27Speaker 15

And this is after improvements have been made here. The development that's gone on has already brought down our quality of life neighborhood, and further development is damn sure not gonna help, but I apologize for the language. That's all I really have to say. Y'all, thank you so much for your time, and I really appreciate it.

1:20:28Speaker 2

Thank you. Valerie Reedy and next speaker will be Tina Rowen.

1:20:40 – 1:21:05Speaker 33

Hi. My name is Valerie Reedy and I live in the Villa De Palmas area. And I'm here today because I too oppose the proposed high density rental apartment complex on North Courtney and Pioneer. Everyone keeps talking about progress, so I decided to do a deep dive into the definition of what progress is and how it relates to this project. We all agree that project progress should strengthen a community, not weaken it.

1:21:05 – 1:21:37Speaker 33

True progress improves long term economic stability, protects existing neighborhoods, and ensures infrastructure can safely support growth. This project does none of those things. First, our infrastructure is already overcapacity. North Cotton is a constrained corridor with no room for meaningful expansion. Adding a high density rental complex will increase traffic, slow emergency response times, and strain utilities and storm water systems that were never designed for this level of density.

1:21:37 – 1:22:27Speaker 33

When infrastructure fails, taxpayers, not developers, pay incompatible with the surrounding area. Our four subdivisions are made up of approximately 600 single family homes, placing an eight building three story rental complex in the middle of established subdivisions disrupts the character, safety, and stability of the community that already exists. Third, this development does not improve long term economic stability. High density rentals often generate less less tax revenue than the public services they require. If property values decline because of incompatible high density development, the county loses tax revenue.

1:22:27 – 1:22:54Speaker 33

That isn't progress. It becomes a long term financial liability. Finally, this project provides no benefit to the current residents. It is designed for transient renters, not for the families who've invested their lives and savings into this community. Progress should serve the people who are already there, not displace their quality of life.

1:22:55 – 1:23:19Speaker 33

Growth is the same as prog growth is not the same as progress. Progress improves the community's quality of life. This project does the opposite. For these reason, I ask you to listen to our voices and vote on the vote with our majority and asking you to vote no on this proposal. I do have a couple of comments because I wanna address some of the things that miss Ruzanka said earlier and also the developer.

1:23:19 – 1:23:42Speaker 33

One of the things that they did talk about was they won't use our roads. I live on Via De La Reina. That's where the light is going from this new DOT project. I currently make a right into Pioneer Road, I would say about 90% of the time going north because the traffic is so backed up, I can't even get to Via De La Reina. So you know what's gonna happen.

1:23:42 – 1:24:25Speaker 33

When they come out of their development, they're not gonna be able to make that right to get onto Courtney, so they're gonna make the left I mean, onto Pioneer. They're gonna make the left, they're gonna go down Pioneer, onto Sykes Creek Loop, I think it's called, and then up Via De La Reina to go to the new light that's coming. So all that traffic, they may tell you no one's gonna do that, they do that because we have to do that now to avoid traffic. And I know that even my husband sometimes when he's he's pulling his boat, he can't even pull into make the left into Via De La Reina because there's so much traffic. We actually go to the light, make the left onto Pioneer and back track and come all the way up to Via De La Reina because there's so much traffic.

1:24:26 – 1:25:06Speaker 33

And it like he said, with the port and on I wish you guys would go there on Saturday. We left the island one day on a Saturday afternoon. We couldn't get back to Saturday night with all the roads. 520, 528 was all backed up because when 520 backs up, that also overflows to 528 and vice versa. So when 528 backs up, you can't get off 520 either. So we have no way of getting on and off this island and adding more of these high density apartment complexes. These aren't even people that are gonna stay within our community. They're here temporarily. They're renting because they're here for a project. They mentioned the cruise port, that's gonna be Airbnbs.

1:25:06 – 1:25:36Speaker 33

And we already saw that happened down in Melbourne Beach. I think you guys are familiar with the Harbor Island and what happened down there when the developer came in. They got the rezoning change, and then another developer came in and did a completely different project. I have a friend that lives there. She they're literally on blowhorns in the middle of the night telling people to be quiet and there are people yelling back, sorry, we're on vacation. We don't have to be quiet. So this is what we don't wanna see in our community. This will this project will ruin our community. Thank you.

1:25:42Speaker 2

Tina Rowan. Tina Rowan. And next speaker will be Susan Cole.

1:25:52 – 1:26:09Speaker 29

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Tina Rowan. I live at 131 Cove Loop Drive in Sykes Cove. I'm here today to address the issue of school capacity as it relates to the proposed 222 unit residential development. This is not a minor procedural concern.

1:26:09 – 1:26:58Speaker 29

It goes directly to whether this board can lawfully and responsibly approve additional residential density when our public schools are already operating under significant pressure. Policy 2.1 of the public school facilities element is quite explicit. It states that the county shall not approve any non exempt residential development that increases residential development rights until a school impact analysis has been completed and a capacity determination letter is issued by the school board confirming that adequate school facilities exist. That language isn't optional, it's not discretionary, it is mandatory. The policy uses the phrase shall not approve, which clearly establishes a legal prerequisite before any rezoning can move forward.

1:26:59 – 1:27:40Speaker 29

Before the board can consider approving this application, there must be confirmation that the affected schools, which include the Lewis Carroll Elementary School, the applicable middle school, and Merritt Island High School have the actual capacity to accommodate additional students that will result from this project. And we must be honest about what we are talking about. A 222 unit apartment development will generate students Depending on accepted planning methodologies, that could mean anywhere from roughly 30 to 80 additional students entering the system. Those students will not be theoretical. They will require desks, teachers, classrooms, and space in already constrained facilities.

1:27:41 – 1:28:09Speaker 29

The adopted level of service for our school system is 100% of capacity. That means we are not planning for overflow. We are planning to operate at the limit. If any of these schools are already near capacity, even a modest increase in enrollment can push them beyond what they were designed to handle. We know from publicly available data that Lewis Carroll Elementary operates with an average student to student to teacher ratio of roughly 15 to 16 students per teacher.

1:28:09 – 1:28:49Speaker 29

While that may sound very comfortable on paper, it's important to understand what that number actually represents. That ratio does not includes not only classroom teachers but also specialized staff. The actual classroom sizes are often significantly higher, typically ranging from 18 to 25 students in elementary grades and sometimes more depending on the grade level and program needs. At Merritt Island High School, classroom sizes commonly range from the low twenties to the upper twenties and in some cases exceed 30 students particularly in core academic courses. These are already filled classrooms operating under state imposed class size requirements with limited flexibility.

1:28:50 – 1:29:28Speaker 29

So when we add an even relatively modest number of new students from a single development, those students are not absorbed into excess capacity. They are absorbed into systems that are already carefully balanced at or near their limits. The land development code reinforces this concern. Section 62 dash six zero two, section d number seven requires the school district to issue a school capacity determination letter for non exempt development and that clearly ties adequacy to the comprehensive plan. That means capacity is not a general planning concept.

1:29:28 – 1:29:55Speaker 29

It is a required finding tied directly to approval. The applicant has presented a school concurrency determination letter indicating no deficiency at this time. However, that letter is explicitly nonbinding. The school board has reserved the right to amend its findings during the formal concurrency determination process at the site plan and final development order stage. In other words, the letter is just a snapshot in time, not a guarantee of future capacity.

1:29:56 – 1:30:41Speaker 29

The distinction matters because the question before the board is not whether the schools had capacity at one moment in time. The question is whether the capacity will exist when this project is built out and begins generating students potentially years from now. Even the school board itself recognizes that uncertainty by reserving its that uncertainty by reserving its right to revisit analysis. That acknowledgment alone should caution us against treating preliminary findings as final assurances. We are also required to consider the broader public health safety and welfare impacts under factor five of section 60 two-eleven 51, section c as well as overall consistency with adopted planning policy under factor three.

1:30:41 – 1:31:15Speaker 29

When school capacity is uncertain, those factors weigh heavily in the analysis. Overcrowded schools affect not only education quality but also transportation, staffing, safety conditions, and overall community infrastructure. At minimum, if the board is inclined to approve this request, approval should be conditioned upon a binding and final school capacity determination, adequacy adequate capacity at the time of the final development order approval. Without that assurance, we are effectively approving population growth without confirmed infrastructure to support it.

1:31:15Speaker 2

Thank you. Thank you.

1:31:24Speaker 2

Susan Cole. And our next speaker, Marcus

1:31:29 – 1:32:02Speaker 35

Herman. Thank you, and thank you for listening to all of us. I wanna remind you of the Brevard County's mission statement and vision as your role as commissioners. The mission is to contribute to enhancing and ensuring Brevard's quality of life today and always. The vision of the community which excels is and is recognized for one, providing for the health, safety, education, and social needs of our community.

1:32:03 – 1:32:39Speaker 35

These are all things that you need to consider when is it going to happen if this development takes place. Number two is building a diverse, strong economic base with the needed infrastructure to support the quality lifestyle. Three, protecting the environment and conserving our valuable resources. Four, creating cooperative partnerships between government, businesses, community organizations, and our residents. Five, maximizing performance and communications to provide excellent service to our customers.

1:32:40 – 1:33:30Speaker 35

These mission statement and the visions are directly from your website. Rezoning this property is irresponsible and goes against the mission statement and each and every vision and goal for all the reasons that you've heard already, you've heard in the past, and you will continue to hear. The health I'll go back to number one because number the health the health facility, if the rezoning does not go back, that would be fine. And it I I I don't think anybody here agrees that the twenty four hour traffic is gonna be what a 22 unit luxury condo or apartment would be. They're only allowing 1.7 parking spots for each of those units, and it's a one to three bedroom unit.

1:33:30 – 1:34:10Speaker 35

And as they stated, it's 2,000 or more. There's not gonna be one person in that unit. There's gonna be there's so we already have additional traffic traffic. Safety, huge concern. Kids ride their bicycles. They walk to school. And with these traffic and these cars going at school time, it's it's terrible. The education, we've talked about some of the problems with getting to kids to school. All those that they've actually said in the past is that it's it's a it's a education board of education problem, but it becomes our problem, the taxpayers, and the social needs of our community. We like our community as it is.

1:34:10 – 1:34:45Speaker 35

We've got the infrastructure. I mean, we've got the the Starbucks and the Target and the grocery stores and the restaurants. There's nothing that this luxury condo is going to do to enhance our our lives. I respectfully suggest that you we focus the time and energy and our resources, including all the money that it's gonna cost to fix these problems. We've already got a huge apartment complex that we haven't even dealt with the con the traffic that's gonna be coming towards Courtney going to the space condo by the mall.

1:34:46 – 1:35:21Speaker 35

All that's to come. We don't even know what's gonna happen then. But you I'm willing to you know, if you work with developers and businesses, they're willing to revamp all the empty storefronts and dilapidated buildings and existing apartments along Courtney Boulevard between 05:20 and 05:28, and that would work towards the mission statement to enhance and ensure the quality of life today and always. I respectfully ask you to protect the residents of Brevard County and say no to rezoning this property.

1:35:30Speaker 2

Marcus Herman. And the next speaker will be Holly Olson.

1:35:43 – 1:36:27Speaker 36

staff, I am Marcus Herman, the current chairman of the Maradona Redevelopment Agency. First off, I I really wanna give hats off to the developer and their representative for doing everything they could to try to make this project work. It just doesn't. I am here representing the MIRBoard as well as being a concerned citizen who has lived in Maryland for sixty years. I was sure that the county commission was very aware of the my reward stance on this project.

1:36:27 – 1:37:06Speaker 36

But to be clear, our board voted unanimously to deny this zoning change. We did so in part because we did not find it to be compatible with the surrounding area, and we were concerned with the level of density. Now for context, I feel it's important to understand that the MIRA board is made up of individuals that are business minded people. They live in Merritt Island, and they are very active in their community. They were selected by many different commissioners over the years.

1:37:07 – 1:38:15Speaker 36

These commissioners trusted their individual integrity and reasonable thinking skills. The board as a whole is made up of pro business individuals. They, along with the staff, are always looking for ways where developments can enhance the well-being of the people in Merritt Island. The board also understands the that growth is inevitable, but we need the need for responsible growth is also very imperative. Myra does support us a what of that I'm not going able to reality or the facts of the matter also We're strongly indicate that this project could have more adverse effects than positive ones.

1:38:15Speaker 36

The MIRA board stands with this community and ask that you deny the request for the zoning change.

1:38:32 – 1:38:51Speaker 2

There's been a request for a ten minute break. We typically take those after every hour and a half, two hours. So we'll break until 06:45 and come right back. We have quite a few cars left, so we'll be up here for a bit. Thank you.

1:39:27 – 1:40:09Speaker 2

I wanted to let anyone Darren King had to leave, but I wanted to put on the public record that he came here to speak out against the project. And anyone who wishes to make sure going to that we're Olson.

1:40:15 – 1:40:41Speaker 37

Good evening, commissioners. Good evening, commissioners. It's my first time speaking here, and I get a little anxious, so bear with me. I have to say that I'm I'm a Merritt Island resident. My name's Holly Olson, and I feel like Brevard County is a beautiful county, and we are so diversified in our businesses with tourism, the space industry, all the things that Brevard County has.

1:40:42 – 1:41:18Speaker 37

I have to say that for every speaker that spoke tonight, I'll double down on it because I feel choked up because I feel like they were so smart, and and they weren't being emotional. They were being correct as far as I see it. I specifically wanted to speak about a couple of different points. I am speaking, first of all, to urge you to vote no on this project. It is because of the three basic things, the water issue, traffic concerns, and voters.

1:41:19 – 1:42:06Speaker 37

The water issue, I would say, is I'm my opposition is based on significant concerns regarding the water supply and management, specifically as many speakers spoke on tonight as well. Specifically, I'm concerned about the potential destruction of local ecosystems, including the Mosquito Lagoon and Sykes Creek. I'm thinking a little bit like inside the box, but more probably more outside the box because I think that we're all right now sort of glued to comprehensive plan and everything is within that. But the reality of our world is we don't live inside that comprehensive plan personally as residents. We live live outside of it in the communities that we represent and the businesses that we have.

1:42:06 – 1:42:29Speaker 37

So whereas that is very important to them to them, and I think they did a fantastic job, by the way. And I'm happy that they're such good builders. But for our specific area, it's not emotional. It's just wrong. So I said I had three things.

1:42:29 – 1:42:52Speaker 37

The water issue is one. The traffic concerns, can't even say anything about because everybody spoke so brilliantly about the traffic concerns tonight. The other thing is the voters. I don't know a voter as in a local resident who hasn't been against this project. We have a great county.

1:42:52 – 1:43:41Speaker 37

We're very blessed. I want to say I respect you, and I thank you for all you do. I think but I think we'll be well served in the future with considering renovations, conservation efforts, teardowns with improved rebuilds, which might be a great thing for builders builders and other recycle strategies that would benefit our county's maintenance. I also think that will bring down the expense for the county because they wouldn't have to pay for all the growth issues that we always get behind on, it seems. We build the things, and then we have to catch up with It's not supposed to be working like that, and you're supposed to be the people that defend our safety.

1:43:41 – 1:44:08Speaker 37

I feel like people that come in to change the zoning, they come in to change the zoning, but they're not the residents and they're not the voters. They're from Indianapolis, and we vote for you. We're your constituency. So when you weigh one against the other, you have to say, who do the commissioners care about? And that's kinda what I care about.

1:44:12 – 1:44:37Speaker 37

Anyway, I think that's that about about wraps it up. I think we love our businesses here. We love our communities. We like beautiful buildings, but not when it comes at the expense of our destination's charm and quality of life. In my opinion, we would be better served with renovation, conservation.

1:44:37 – 1:45:05Speaker 37

I probably already said this, tear downs with improved rebuilds and other recycling strategies for future benefits. We love businesses here, etcetera, etcetera. And for our sake and the sake of the tourist industry and mother nature and quality of life, we should vote this down. That's

1:45:06Speaker 37

Thank you. Thank you.

1:45:08 – 1:45:22Speaker 2

Thank you. Next speaker, Diana Schomer. And after her will be Veronica Ochlear. Ochlear? I think. Diane Schomer? Okay.

1:45:33Speaker 2

should have called your name, Senator.

1:45:34 – 1:46:11Speaker 38

Hi. My name is Diana Schomer. I live on Andrick Street on Merritt Island, and have been there for quite a while. I am also against this project, and I think that it it it's maybe kind of important that that nobody has talked about this, but the the whole thing that got all of this started, and it started all over the country. In this state, it started with the Live Local Act, and it it's what promoted all these high density projects, and they gave these developers many many perks.

1:46:11 – 1:46:33Speaker 38

They don't have to pay impact fees. They they don't have to pay sales taxes on up to $5,000 of sales tax per unit, so they can buy all the materials tax free. They don't have to pay all their property taxes. They can build these things in any zoning. This is what the state law said.

1:46:34 – 1:47:02Speaker 38

And so all of these people jumped in and these things are going up all over the country. I mean, they are just everywhere now, and I think it's part of the World Economic Forum where they said, oh, you'll live in these places and you'll you won't have anything, you won't own anything, but you'll be happy. And that I'm not happy that way. I'm not happy to live like that. I I think it's overcrowding, it's over dense.

1:47:02 – 1:47:42Speaker 38

I mean, years ago Harvard did a study with rats, and they put rats in a in a building, not a building, but a facility rat maze, and they fed them, but they didn't add any more food, and they let the rats multiply. And in the end, the rats were eating the other rats because that's what it's too dense. It's just too dense. Anyway, the other thing that I'm very upset about is I've read that there's gonna be a $200,000,000 upgrade to our sewage, our Sykes Creek sewage facility. Facility, $200,000,000.

1:47:42 – 1:48:19Speaker 38

Now the developers aren't gonna pay for that. I'm guessing we're gonna pay for that, and that's a lot of money. And shouldn't that upgrade happen before we have you've already approved 300 units on Merritt Island that we don't have room for, and we have all these sewage spills all the time. We voted this tax that we pay every month, it's a half a cent sales tax, to go towards cleaning up the Indian River Lagoon. Well, this money amounts to roughly $4,000,000 a month.

1:48:20 – 1:48:50Speaker 38

Meanwhile, the lagoon isn't looking any better, probably because the sewage treatment plants aren't upgraded, and we still have the spills, and we're spending I mean, $4,000,000 a month, that's $48,000,000 a year. We should be able to make an impact. How are we gonna deal with all the overflows if we don't have this facility in place to handle it before these units? And they put them up fast. It doesn't take them long.

1:48:52 – 1:49:37Speaker 38

And the other thing that I take issue with is they are not luxury apartments. Everybody knows on Merritt Island, your housing should be made out of concrete block. If it's not made out of concrete block, every time we have a hurricane, you're gonna have to evacuate out of those. They're built out of sticks. The only thing that's concrete is the stairwell. That's it. So all of those people in all of those units are always going to have to evacuate every time there's an evacuation notice. Already the evacuation time is well over six hours, another 300 units here, another 200 units there. You're adding hours to the evacuation time. Sometimes there isn't that much time.

1:49:37 – 1:49:52Speaker 38

These are barrier islands. This is not like in in interior land. We are subject to the weather here. Let's see. I know I must have had more to say than that.

1:49:52 – 1:50:32Speaker 38

Anyway because anyway, I just I don't think it's right to settle the taxpayers with all these expenses to help the developers. These are not a needy group of people. They do not need to be subsidized by me or any of us here. And I realize that, you know, you you have a difficult job and and all of that, but this I am emotional about this one. I am emotional because I travel that road, and they are gonna concrete what they call the suicide lane, which is our turn lane.

1:50:33Speaker 38

There are businesses on both sides. When they sit when they do that, you're gonna have to make u turns to go places. You're gonna make more congestion. Thank you for your time.

1:50:43Speaker 38

Please vote no.

1:50:55Speaker 2

Veronica and our next speaker, Michael Wilson.

1:50:57 – 1:51:13Speaker 17

Actually, I'm the attorney who's representing the community association. And since we are getting more time for the attorney, I'd rather go at the end if we can do that so it doesn't interrupt the flow of all the community members whose voices should be heard first.

1:51:13Speaker 39

Okay. I'll go after. Did you fill out a

1:51:16Speaker 13

did you fill out a

1:51:17Speaker 17

Yes. I have a card already out.

1:51:19Speaker 2

What was your name again?

1:51:19Speaker 17

Veronica Ochler.

1:51:21Speaker 2

Okay. I'll put you at the end.

1:51:23Speaker 17

Thank you. Thank you.

1:51:26Speaker 2

Oh, that's right. I called your name, didn't I? Duh. Okay.

1:51:32 – 1:51:55Speaker 13

Hello, commissioners. Michael g Wilson. I'm the chairman of the Space Coast Patriots in Merritt Island, but more importantly, I am a Merritt Island resident. I live at 2562 Sykes Creek Drive. And the first point I wanna make tonight is miss Rezinke prepared a addendum, and she sent it, and I assume all of you got it.

1:51:55 – 1:52:44Speaker 13

And there is a key point of wording in her addendum. It says Brevard County may approve rezoning applications, and the keyword there is may. That doesn't mean you have to, it means you may if you decide it's a good use of the property and good for your constituents. And I'm going to ask you to vote no on the rezoning, and I'm going to tell you some of the reasons why I think you should do so based on the addendum that miss Rizenka provided. In the addendum, miss Rizenka said that they may consider going to the live local act to put in affordable housing, which would increase the number of units to 337.

1:52:45 – 1:53:40Speaker 13

Now I've taken a look at the developer's website, and as far as I can read, they are not in the affordable housing business because in when you're in the affordable housing business, it requires that you manage these properties for thirty years. You have annual audits. So I think these guys are willing to throw anything out to get you to do the rezoning, and I don't think that that should happen. Another point that I wanna make is they hired a traffic study, Bowman Engineering, which is fine, but they were unwilling to go an extra step and do the site plan. If they wanted so badly, they should provide a site plan, and they have not, because I think it would reveal other problems that are of quite a serious nature, but you don't know until you have the site plan.

1:53:40 – 1:54:24Speaker 13

The other thing that they have said is that Hampton Manor is a high density application, and it may be by definition a high high density application, but I can tell you based on going by there every day, it's a low traffic output because the people who live in Hampton Manor, for the most part, do not go back and forth to work. These are people who are in assisted living. So that's another point that they've thrown out that I don't think is a good point. They are also threatening, as they did tonight, they said, boy, oh, boy, if you don't let us in, they're gonna put a hospital in. That's gonna be really, really bad.

1:54:25 – 1:54:56Speaker 13

Well, I don't agree. For those of you and most of us do live in Merritt Island, and most of us access Cape Canaveral Hospital, whether as a patient or a visitor, you can go to the hospital any time of the day, and you'll see just a few cars coming and going. And realize that a hospital, the people who work at the hospital work shifts. It's not like everybody goes to work at eight and goes home at five. So everybody can attest that the traffic is fairly low volume even though a hospital is twenty four seven.

1:54:56 – 1:55:32Speaker 13

So let's disregard that point. As part of the traffic study that these guys have provided, they failed to mention that the evacuation component. And I think that's very, very important, and I think they should not have left that out. The other thing that they did not consider was that FDOT is going to improve, so they say, the access on 528 and they're going to put a hard median in the middle. That's going to create a lot of problems.

1:55:32 – 1:56:15Speaker 13

They also said that everyone or almost everyone will access the new complex through State Road 3, yet they provided no proof of that. That's just what they say. That's what they believe. Who knows? The last thing I wanna point out is they keep saying over and over again, gosh, we don't have any homes or apartments for these people to live in. I did a quick check today on realtor.com, and they say that in Cocoa and Rockledge, there are 2,024 apartments or homes for rent. So I think that just tells that. Commissioners, thank you very much for your time, and please vote no.

1:56:16 – 1:56:27Speaker 2

Thank you. Lindsay Lindsay Buckle is our next speaker, and after her will be Barbara Giles.

1:56:36 – 1:57:20Speaker 12

Alright. Good evening. I'm Lindsey Buckle, and even though I stand here in uniform today, I am a Florida and Brevard County voting resident, Florida native born and raised, and I'm so happy that six years ago, I got to come back and put my roots down here. I live on 2645 Raintree Lake Circle. My kids attend Lewis Carroll Elementary, ride their bikes to and from school every single day. They like to play in those woods that are behind our neighborhood development there, and they also like to play in the storm water every single time it rains and floods our neighborhood. And I'd like to share some pictures with you if I can. I don't know if we can pull that up. But my kids, every time it rains and some of the pictures I'll show you, this one is from 2000 and oops. Get the glare off here.

1:57:21Speaker 12

This one is from 2022. And what I wanna show you here is I live

1:57:29Speaker 40

make this a little prettier for you guys.

1:57:33Speaker 10

Print other way. There you go. I

1:57:35 – 1:57:51Speaker 12

directly I live directly where two storm drains are. So right at the end of my mailbox is a storm water drain, and across the street from there is a storm water drain. As you can see here, it is lightly raining. This is not a hurricane. This is a rainstorm.

1:57:53 – 1:58:44Speaker 12

I'd also like to point out this right here, walking across my back back patio is from 2024. Flooding in my house. And in 2022, I have pictures here here that I have emailed of us paddleboarding and kayaking down the street. All three of these events are again from rainstorms, not from hurricanes, normal rainstorms. And each one of these events, several of them, I reached out to the county commission and I asked, what is your storm water maintenance plan for this neighborhood because it's not working?

1:58:44 – 1:59:21Speaker 12

Across the street from us is Raintree Lake Circle. The lake is not flooding in these events. The storm water drains are not taking care of the water like they should be. I talked to some of my neighbors that have been in the neighborhood for a long time. There are culverts that used to run all behind the houses. Those are not maintained. They no longer exist. They've been filled in. We have the culverts that run all along Pioneer that are not accounting for this storm water. And so my issue, I applaud the development team here that has taken the site plan, they have listened to the community and tried to mitigate as many of the concerns that they can that are within their span of control.

1:59:21 – 2:00:03Speaker 12

But my issue here is with the county maintenance of our storm water. That is not the responsibility of these developers. They will be responsible for taking care of the three inches of rain that their code requires them to take care of on their site plan. The problem is is that site plan is gonna include some filter, it's gonna include going to a retention pond, and it's gonna include going out to our storm water maintenance that connects to our neighborhood that is already not maintained. And as they as they tie into that storm water maintenance, that flooding that I experienced on an annual and persistent basis in the six years I've lived in my house is going to continue and get worse.

2:00:05 – 2:00:43Speaker 12

I have already spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to get drainage companies out to my house. The only thing they can do is put drainage ditches in and send it out to the street, which I just showed you is already flooding. That's not gonna get the flooding out from around my house. I don't know what I can do anymore within the neighborhood, and the development that's going on around me is gonna raise the dirt level, it's gonna tie into our storm water, and it's gonna make the flooding of my house and my neighborhood worse. And so my issue, I applaud the team for listening to the community, it is not their responsibility to make sure the storm water drain at the end of my street is clear for their development to occur.

2:00:43 – 2:01:04Speaker 12

That is its responsibility of this commission. And I can tell you after each one of these events, I have also reached out to the commission as an engineer myself and as a as a program manager and government employee. I said, is your storm water maintenance plan for my area? Crickets. I got emails about if I this is a once in a lifetime rain event.

2:01:04 – 2:01:37Speaker 12

We can't account for this. I said that's funny because this has happened about five or six times now since I've lived here. I have been told, well, here is our GIS data for what our storm water plan is, looking at the map of where all the drains and ditches are. I have asked repeatedly how are you gonna maintain our storm water system in this area, and I have not gotten an answer from our county. And so that concerns me when we talk about adding hundreds of development units that are gonna tie into our storm water plan and how that's gonna affect the flooding that's already occurring in my neighborhood.

2:01:38 – 2:01:53Speaker 12

And so I am a no on this project and not because they haven't done their due diligence, but because the county has not done theirs on maintaining our storm water system. Thank you.

2:01:55Speaker 2

Barbara Giles. Barbara Giles. And our next speaker is Gregory McCluskey.

2:02:11 – 2:02:37Speaker 41

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Barbara Giles, and I live at 203 Cove Loop Drive, Merritt Island. I want to address the most critical procedural point before you tonight before your vote. Your authority and your obligation is to evaluate the infrastructure impacts at this hearing before you vote. Your own guidelines and the comprehensive plan are clear.

2:02:38 – 2:03:13Speaker 41

You must consider the impact of a zoning change on traffic patterns, water, and sewer systems, and the established character of the neighborhood before granting new development rights. These are not suggestions that you can just consider at a later date. They are mandatory factors for your decision tonight. If the infrastructure cannot support the proposed intensity, the rezoning should not be approved. You've heard from a lot of people here that we can't sustain another building like that.

2:03:13 – 2:03:37Speaker 41

We don't have the infrastructure. It's not there. There's already flooding. The reason your rules require a preliminary evaluation is precisely so you don't approve a density that the community cannot physically handle. You cannot responsibly grant increased development rights today without first confirming that the roads and utilities have the capacity.

2:03:38 – 2:04:16Speaker 41

If the capacity isn't there now, you can't can't approve it. The project is incompatible with the area. I believe you have an obligation to the public to evaluate infrastructure impacts of the proposed apartment building change right now before you vote on that change. You already started that process and already concluded that this project is going to endanger the users of Pioneer Road, families, neighbors, school children, and parents. So you're making a decision.

2:04:16 – 2:04:41Speaker 41

The decision impacts thousands of people, thousands of people. All the users of Pioneer Road and Courtney Parkway. And by the way, I think Courtney Parkway is being at that Pioneer and Courtney. They're gonna be making some changes. It was just announced to the they're gonna be working on it because it's so dangerous.

2:04:41 – 2:05:07Speaker 41

There are so many accidents. Right there, Pioneer in Courtney. If infrastructure cannot support the project, the zoning change should not be approved. You cannot responsibly grant more development rights today without confirming there's capacity for the development. If the capacity is not there, this project is incompatible with the area.

2:05:07 – 2:05:28Speaker 41

And you've heard from all these fine people who dressed in red and came here and came here before and came here before. It's important. It affects lives. It's dangerous to allow this and to just go ahead and say, yeah, go ahead and build when you already are on alert that there are serious serious traffic problems now. Thank you.

2:05:32Speaker 2

Thank you, Gregory McCluskey. And the next speaker will be Daniel Delewd.

2:05:40 – 2:05:52Speaker 42

Daniel name Delewd. My name is Gregory McCluskey. I live at 1899 that talk about we're we're to to

2:05:57 – 2:06:30Speaker 42

percent from the background growth alone. This one project wants to grab 25% of the tiny bit of space left on that road and who will be responsible for the major changes required when growth exceeds the capacity within a short period after 2027. I was trying to come here tonight and I was in that right turn lane, no other traffic, but Courtney was backed up well beyond Pioneer Road. So I had to wait for the light to change in order to be able to make a right turn because the capacity wasn't there for me to be able to make a right turn. It was that crowded on Courtney.

2:06:31 – 2:06:53Speaker 42

Worse yet, the study completely ignored Pioneer, the side road which our kids and grandkids go to school at Lewis Carroll Elementary. That omission alone should concern this board. I've seen some personal examples. I happened to leave one time and forgot and went during the time that school was let out. It took three traffic light cycles for me to get through to make a left turn.

2:06:58 – 2:08:18Speaker 42

The traffic has gotten so bad that many people now are cutting through behind Starbucks and going past the assisted living to try to get out onto Courtney To the point where Hampton Manor, which my wife's excuse me, my wife's mother lives in, they have warned all the residents who may be walking over to Starbucks or the bank to be extra careful because of the cars traffic going through there. The extension of the right turn lane really isn't going to do anything. And if you look at the drawings that they gave you that shows the cars that are trying to make left turns and those making the right turns, their exit is going to compound that because people are going to be trying to get over into the turn lane to turn left and cutting across where this traffic is supposed to be flowing through on the right that they are bragging about. My kids go to Lewis Carroll, my grandkids go to Lewis Carroll and they ride their bikes there and so I am very concerned about the safety and the issues there because they're coming over from the Glenwood Circle area Glenwood Circle. If 1,400 new car trips are added daily as their study suggests and over 500 of those use the school road, it's a massive safety risk for children walking and biking.

2:08:21 – 2:09:18Speaker 42

The comprehensive plans administrative policy five criteria in G requires this board to evaluate whether proposed rezoning load would and I quote, materially and adversely impact the safety or welfare of residents in existing residential neighborhoods. Criteria B, C and D also requires you to consider three additional criteria about Pioneer Drive regarding road quality. A, whether the physical quality of the existing road system is sufficient to support the use without significant deterioration b, whether the surrounding road system is sufficient within construction quality to serve the use without the need of substantial public improvements and c, whether the road system is of such within construction quality that the proposed use would pose potential for material danger to public safety. It does not qualify for that and this only makes it that much worse. We need to be able to turn left and right now it's very difficult to turn left during school hours particularly, but also at other times.

2:09:19 – 2:10:05Speaker 42

Policy five Criterion E asked whether the proposed use would result in a material and adverse change in traffic capacity that design capacities would significantly would be significantly exceeded. Commissioners, I along with thousands of area residents and parents of children going to school respectfully ask you to deny the rezoning application because the traffic it would generate poses a clear and material danger to the safety of these children and families who depend on Pioneer Drive every day. The developer has not even studied that impact. In addition, we elected you as our commissioners, all of your constituents to protect us from overcrowding and for this this impact on our quality of life. Thank you for listening to us.

2:10:08Speaker 2

Thank you. Danielle and our next speaker will be Pam Steele.

2:10:15 – 2:10:28Speaker 43

Alright. Good evening commissioners. My name is Daniel Allude. I live on Merritt Island, and I will try to get through this as quickly as possible. I wanna speak about the serious water sewer and utility capacity impacts of the proposed 220 unit development on Pioneer Road.

2:10:28 – 2:11:25Speaker 43

Brevard County land development code section 62 dash six zero two d three, the adopted level of service for potable water is 250 gallons per day per residential unit. For 222 units, that equals approximately 55,500 gallons of potable water demand per day. Section 62 dash six zero two d two sets the level of service for sanitary sewer at 200 gallons per day per unit, which equals approximately 44,400 gallons of sanitary sewer demanding per day. These figures do not even include the swimming pool, the 6,500 square foot clubhouse that they're wanting to put in there, or other amenities. Section 62 dash one one five one c three of the land development code expressly requires this board to consider the impact of proposed rezoning on water and sewer systems and other public facilities at the rezoning stage, not defer it to site plan.

2:11:25 – 2:11:53Speaker 43

Additionally, chapter 13 of the comprehensive plan policies five point two and five point five require preliminary concurrency evaluation during zoning review and rent verification from the utility provider that adequate capacity and water supply are available. To date, no such verification has been provided to the board. Brevard County is already facing a massive inch to infrastructure backlog. What was it? $800,000,000 between sewer and water infrastructure?

2:11:53 – 2:12:20Speaker 43

Are you serious? And they're talking about busting the cap guys. Now Brevard County is already facing that. We should not approve additional demand that could degrade service to existing residents who have already paid for our current water and sewer systems, I respectfully urge you to require clear written confirmation of adequate utility capacity before any approval. And to deny this application if that capacity does not exist or will not be fully funded by developer. Thank you.

2:12:21 – 2:12:37Speaker 2

Thank you. Pam Steele, and the speaker after Pam will be Drew Orr. Is that right? Pardon? The next speaker will be Drew Orr,

2:12:37 – 2:13:23Speaker 44

Good I think I got it evening commissioners, I'm Pam Steele, I live on Merritt Island at 203 Sykes Loop Drive, which my entrance and exit is definitely on Pioneer Road, and I just got through paying a thousand dollars two months ago for the mildew molded drywall from the last two years floods in my house, so what they say I have incurred as well. So I'm gonna get my emotional stuff over first, so miss Rizenka is happy and then I'll get to the facts. So first of all, I've worked at NASA for thirty five years. I'm now retired. Fifty five years, I've lived on Merritt Island, so I think I know the place pretty well.

2:13:23Speaker 44

My dad was there twenty years before me. I know a lot about sure I'm not

2:13:42Speaker 44

the I'm other one, not

2:13:55 – 2:14:41Speaker 44

demographics have changed, but I don't believe we have a housing need overall. We have what I think is opportunistic greed. We have and and it's it's not just y'all, I'm not really against, you know, it's not you personally or anything, but I my son lives in Sarasota, I just it's everywhere, every time I go visit him there's another one of these matchbox apartment buildings going up. It's miserable getting around over there. Today when I left Pioneer Road to come here, it took me nine minutes once I made the right turn after fighting to get in the left lane, nine minutes three turns of the light just to get on to 528.

2:14:42 – 2:15:24Speaker 44

When I arrived in Viera, I'm like, what a great they planned this out, the roads are wide, they can expand, you can get around, it's a planned community, it's a beautiful thing. I'm happy Viera is here and growing, but that is not Merritt Island. Okay? That's not what it has been, what it should be. And when you cut yourself, you don't put salt in the wound. Well, that's what we're doing. We've already approved as a county and the port commission and the state and all of that, all that growth at the port. We on Merritt Island are very, very impacted by all the port growth on 05/28. We can't move around. It it quite a lot of times.

2:15:25 – 2:16:09Speaker 44

These homes, these new apartments, in my opinion, are not going to be If they are for the employees at the space center, they're gonna be transient renters. The construction will eventually die off because NASA is only gonna lease out so much land. And then you're going to have it's gonna be northern seasonal people, not long term residents festive. They're only here part of the year. Or it's gonna be you're gonna be gouging Elon and Jeff Bezos for their employees to stay there, but it's a whole different island. It's not the kind of people we have now in residence, long term vested, generational, a nice community. There's

2:16:09 – 2:16:41Speaker 44

of growth in Brevard County outside of that for for all of the rest of this. Okay. Aside from that, I'd say I'd like to address factor two of section sixty two eleven fifty one c, change in conditions. In factor two, it requires you to evaluate the change in conditions of the land use of property being considered in the surrounding properties since the establishment of the current applicable zoning classification. This is one of five mandatory decision criteria that you must consider.

2:16:41 – 2:17:25Speaker 44

It focuses on the property and the surrounding property, not the regional trends. Just because it's happening in Viera doesn't make it right for Merritt Island. The developer must demonstrate that the conditions actually have that will actually change in a way that warrants this rezoning. The burden is on them to prove it. Administrative policy three c reinforces the change in conditions inquiry or requires you to evaluate whether the proposed use is consistent with the emerging or existing pattern of surrounding development through an analysis of historical land use patterns, actual development over the immediately preceding three years, and development approved in the past three years but not yet constructed.

2:17:25 – 2:17:41Speaker 44

This three part test that the comprehensive plan requires you to apply, let me walk you through it. The developers gonna argue that the conditions have changed since the AU zoning was assigned, that regional employment has grown. I just explained it hasn't. Is my five

2:17:41Speaker 2

Finish your thought. Five minutes ago, and finish your thought.

2:17:43 – 2:18:07Speaker 44

Oh, wow. That original environment has grown, and the space industry has expanded. There is demand for rental housing on Merritt Island, but the relevant inquiry under factor two is not rather county wide or regional market change has shifted, it's what has changed in our immediate area. Nothing has changed in our immediate area. It's still a residential area. There's still a

2:18:07 – 2:18:37Speaker 44

there. AU one and r u one character of this corridor has not changed. Pioneer Drive is still a local resident road. The wetlands still exist. We're still flooding. The single family neighborhoods east of the site will define this still define how this community should continue. The developer's own aerial map confirms this. Let me apply the three part test. Historical land use patterns. The historical land use pattern is overwhelmingly single family residential.

2:18:37 – 2:19:10Speaker 44

It has been for decades. Fifty five years, I can attest to it. Actual development in the preceding three years, this includes Hampton Manor, but as someone's already pointed out, that population is an elder sector, they live in assisted facility assisted living, they don't mostly drive, so they're not gonna impact us on Pioneer Road. Approved and unbuilt, there's a 22 unit mobile home community that's been approved but it's not been built yet, pretty insignificant. Nothing that compares to this.

2:19:11 – 2:19:56Speaker 44

The developer zone traffic study shows Courtney is already at 88%, I think that was already a point made by Greg, so I won't belittle that. Merritt Island requires travel to Lewis Carroll Elementary, you already have heard all about that. The change in conditions has increased congestion. That's all that's changed. And this project does nothing to help that. It only adds to it. The exceptions do not create a trend. Just because some have been built, that doesn't mean you should build more. The others have been substantially smaller, built under different conditions, and none of them involve the kind of market rate luxury rental intensity being proposed here. These are going to be tourists.

2:19:56Speaker 44

They're going to be, you know, people renting them out or construction workers at the space center. They're not gonna be long term residents of Merritt Island. Thank you.

2:20:05Speaker 2

Thank you. Drew Drew Orr, and next speaker is Rebecca.

2:20:14Speaker 28

Commissioner, I got to apologize. It's Dean Orr. I my

2:20:17Speaker 2

handwriting Dean. That's okay. My handwriting is not that good. Well, I'm not the greatest reader either. So

2:20:22Speaker 13

Okay. Alrighty.

2:20:24 – 2:21:03Speaker 28

Yeah. My name is Dean Orr. I live at 172 Cove Loop Drive in Sykes Cove. I've been there for twenty five years. Raised my kids there and it's a wonderful community. I love it there. Tonight, I'm going to talk about density, density of developments. The maximum density is a ceiling, not an entitlement. The developer and staff may suggest that because the future land use designations of neighborhood commercial and residential 15 technically allow up to 15 units per acre that the board is required to approve the project at or near that density. That's not correct.

2:21:05 – 2:22:31Speaker 28

Policy 1.1 of the future land use element expressly states the approved densities may be lower than the maximum allowed by a residential land use designation. Therefore, the board Florida, of the Policy 1.1 identifies six six specific reasons the board can approve at a lower density or not at all. Environmental constraints, land use compatibility under administrative policy three, unavailability or inadequacy of public facilities and services including educational facilities, a lot of which has been mentioned already. And the character of the general area should be considered hurricane evacuation and other policies such as the MIRA plan. So a lot of different going do to that.

2:22:33 – 2:23:21Speaker 28

Residential development in a neighborhood commercial designated area is only permissible, and I quote, provided that the scale and intensity of residential and mixed use development is not compatible with a budding residential development or is compatible. But the the problem here is it's not compatible with with the local residential development. The the density is the problem here and we just wanna make sure you guys realize you don't have to approve the maximum density that's on a map. You know, we can approve lower if or none at all. And, you know, this is a lot of technical stuff, but I kinda wanna step back and talk big picture now a little bit.

2:23:21Speaker 28

I've lived there for twenty five years in the Merritt Island area and, you know, the congestion has gotten more and more dense over the years

2:23:44 – 2:24:20Speaker 28

coming we're to try to get through that area. So we are super densely to populated during rush hour. That that whole place is packed and to put a high density apartment right in the middle of all that is is just trouble on all fronts as has been stated here today. So you're here to protect our community and not our develop not developers' profits here. So we we implore you to please vote no on this and think about the homeowners like me that have been here for twenty five years. We love our community. We don't wanna ruin with the big development. Thank you.

2:24:21Speaker 2

Thank you. Rebecca Hauser, our next speaker, Heinke Jonnert. Jonnert?

2:24:29Speaker 10

That was correct.

2:24:34 – 2:25:05Speaker 26

evening, commissioners. My name is Rebecca Hauser, and I live in Sykes Cove Association. I'm also on the board of directors. I've been on the board for five years, and I have three kids currently at Lewis Carroll School. I wanted to show some pictures of what Pioneer looks like during pickup hours. I know nobody has brought that up yet. So let's see if I can show these. That would be great. Alright. Now I gotta flip it.

2:25:06 – 2:25:23Speaker 26

Sorry. Okay. So this is what Pioneer looks like. The whole side on Pioneer is completely full. They're supposed to be pulling over on the right hand side, but no cars pull over.

2:25:23 – 2:26:03Speaker 26

So as you can see, you have cars passing the entire right side to go past the school pickup line. And you can see there's a car going forward. So there's lots of kids that are coming out of the school, and I'm gonna show a picture of how close these kids are. So in the same picture right here is where the kids get to go. And back here where the kids so they're crossing across the street while cars are driving around the cars parked on Pioneer and going back and forth.

2:26:03 – 2:26:36Speaker 26

Lewis Carroll also has a crossing guard at that intersection. They do not have a crossing guard at North Courtney and Pioneer Road because it was determined to be too dangerous for a crossing guard to be there. So I just wanted to bring that up that Pioneer and Courtney, it's a scary intersection as it is. I love that they would be able to make the right hand lane longer, but the left side is the problem. You're going straight and left at the same time.

2:26:37 – 2:26:49Speaker 26

I always kind of wait before I'm going left, hold my breath to make sure the cars aren't gonna keep going before I actually turn. So I just wanted to note that. And then I also am I allowed to ask a question?

2:26:51 – 2:27:09Speaker 26

Okay. So I wanted to ask the question about the live local act. From how I understand it, that it does not apply apply to AU land. Is that correct? Because currently, this lot okay. Sorry.

2:27:09Speaker 2

Let's let it. Okay.

2:27:11Speaker 22

Mister chairman, that is generally correct that agricultural use in for our county is a residential use, but local applies to commercial and industrial land uses.

2:27:20 – 2:28:21Speaker 26

So currently, that lot is AU as well as those commercial buildings are AU, and the only reason why the commercial buildings were allowed was because they got the cup. So I wanted to point that out that even if they said that we could do the liberal local act, make the apartments bigger, that doesn't apply to this current zoning right now. Then just to end it with, I'm gonna be kind of quick. So if this board approves 222 units at this location and at this intensity, you are establishing a precedent for this immediate area. You are signalling signalling that the single family residential character of this community can be overridden by any developer who points to a future land use map designation and demands maximum density regardless

2:28:25Speaker 26

To not you're do that. That.

2:28:43Speaker 1

to Heika. Heika.

2:28:50Speaker 14

Yenert. That. And Heika then what? Yenert. Yeah. It's German.

2:28:55Speaker 17

That's great name.

2:28:56 – 2:29:11Speaker 14

To cite the facts. Good evening. Good evening, commissioners. My name is Heika Yenert, and I live at 6729 Mangrove Drive, Merritt Island. I want to address the wetlands and the environmental constraints on this property.

2:29:12 – 2:29:47Speaker 14

Number one, wetlands confirmed on the property. The MIRA staff report and the final wetlands delineation both acknowledge that this property contains wetlands over two acres that must be preserved. The staff report itself states that a portion of the property containing wetlands is required to be preserved. Number two, conversation element objective five, no net loss. Objective five of the conservation element establishes the overarching standard.

2:29:47 – 2:30:17Speaker 14

It directs the county to preserve, protect, restore and replace wetlands to achieve no net loss for functional wetlands in Brevard County. It requires that protective activities to be prioritized in this in this order. Number one, avoidance of impacts. Number two, minimization of impacts. And number three, mitigation for impacts as the very last last resort.

2:30:17 – 2:30:57Speaker 14

This is binding county policy, not a suggestion. Number three, policy five-two E-one, density within wetlands limited to one unit per five acres. Conservation Element Policy 5.2 E1 states that residential land uses within wetlands shall be limited to not more than one dwelling unit per five acres, net acres. This dramatically constrains the developable area of this parcel, number four, policy five-2E4A, NC designation with wetlands. There is an additional constraint that is critical.

2:30:57 – 2:31:52Speaker 14

Policy 5.2 E four provides that institutional or residential professional land developments on property, which contains wetlands and which are designated on the future land use map as neighborhood commercial or community commercial shall be considered commercial as set forth in policy 5.2 E3. And what does policy 5.2 E3 says? It prohibits commercial and industrial land development activities in wetlands based on the FL Du designation, not the proposed or actual intended use. This means the wetland constraints on this property are even more restrictive than the developer may have represented. Certain types of residential development on this NC designated parcel with wetlands are treated as commercial and commercial development in wetlands is prohibited.

2:31:52 – 2:32:35Speaker 14

Number five, effective density increases on uplands. If the developer must avoid all red lands, which the conversation element requires as the first priority, then the effective density on the remaining upland portion increases substantially. This raises serious concerns about building height, building mass and intensity on a reduced footprint. This also raises compatibility issues because the buildings will be more imposing and more impactful on the surrounding single family neighborhood. Number six, the last one, the site plan places buildings on wetlands.

2:32:36 – 2:33:25Speaker 14

The developer's own density study and conceptual site plan show building footprints that extend directly into wetland areas as identified on the wetlands delineation. The only stormwater feature shown is a single area labeled SW one at just 0.14 acres. This alone demonstrates that the developer has not taken the conservation elements requirements seriously, and it calls into question whether two twenty two units can be feasible constructed while complying with all applicable wetland protections. Commissioners, the developers the developer bears the burden of demonstrating feasibility. That burden has not been met.

2:33:25 – 2:33:37Speaker 14

I urge you to scrutinize whether this project can actually meet the conversation elements element requirements and to deny this application if it cannot. Thank you.

2:33:43Speaker 2

Thank you. Tracy True? Did I get that right? No. Chelsea. I didn't see the

2:33:52Speaker 40

Time. I'll work on my handwriting.

2:33:54Speaker 2

That's alright.

2:33:55 – 2:34:13Speaker 40

We'll get get there. Okay. Good evening commissioners. My name is Chelsea True and I live in the neighboring single family residential neighborhood to the north of this property. I have spoken several times in opposition to this application and there's still far more that could be said, but tonight I wanna focus on key issues that remain unresolved.

2:34:14 – 2:34:55Speaker 40

Section 62 dash one one five one of the land development code requires you to consider five mandatory factors before granting a rezoning and the comprehensive plans administrative policies impose additional criteria covering compatibility, neighborhood character, transportation impacts, environmental constraints, and consistency with the element of the plan. The burden of proof rests on the applicant, not on this community. The applicant has stated time and time again that the infrastructure is a site plan issue. However, section 62 dash one one five one and section 62 dash six zero two and administrative policies three through six contradict the statement. You are required to evaluate these impacts at the rezoning phase.

2:34:55 – 2:35:25Speaker 40

Administrative policy five requires you to evaluate whether this material materially and adversely impacts the safety of residents in our neighborhood and the staff analysis stated it does. Additionally, the surrounding area remains the same as when the AU zoning was assigned. It is a single family residential. The three part development pattern analysis under administrative policy three does not support this intensity. The one condition that has changed is the increasing congestion on Courtney and that argues against this project not in favor for it.

2:35:26 – 2:35:48Speaker 40

A housing shortage doesn't automatically make a project a good one. We can acknowledge that there is a housing issue and still expect thoughtful planning. We need housing. It should not be a blanket justification to build anywhere at any scale without considering the long term impacts on local roads, schools, or the environment. I also want to address the worst case hypothetical scenario, hospital.

2:35:49 – 2:36:47Speaker 40

The market for healthcare landscape has significantly changed dramatically since 1983. A new hospital is slated to open within approximately four miles of this site in 2027 and there is no market demand and quite frankly not probably not enough staff to employ two hospitals on Mare Island. My last point I have to make is about administrative policy three which is compatibility because this site and the existing or proposed land use in this area, this requires evaluation of impacts to the enjoyment, safety, and quality of life in existing neighborhoods and to property values and with this criteria, this project plainly fails. The character of these neighborhoods that abut this property single family residential with nothing remotely comparable to a 222 unit three story apartment complex with 389 parking spaces within two miles. Taken together, every mandatory review factor under the land development code and every relevant administrative policy of the comprehensive plan weighs against this rezoning at this intensity.

2:36:48 – 2:37:19Speaker 40

The developer has not proved that 222 apartment units are compatible with this community, that infrastructure can support the demand or that public health safety and welfare will be protected. Commissioners, I humbly ask you to look into the crowd tonight and see the faces of everyone this affects. These faces are just some of the many people behind the overwhelming descent you have heard for the last six months about this project. These neighbors of mine have provided real live testimony and impact. The impacts are substantial enough to require ongoing revisions and mitigation discussions.

2:37:19 – 2:37:46Speaker 40

These are not concerns fabricated by the residents. There there is nothing spurious as described by mister Zonka in regards to their statements. We are not misinterpreting section 62 dash six zero two and we are not asking you to ignore the code. We are asking you to enforce it including the parts the applicant would prefer to minimize. After six months, multiple continuances, evolving access plans, shifting density discussions, and ongoing mitigation revisions, the core issue with this project remain unresolved.

2:37:46 – 2:38:08Speaker 40

And as you can see, we have a lot of people here in opposition, but I also wanna mention the voices that aren't. There is a petition that has been going around that has over 3,000 signatures against this proposal. So on behalf of the entire community who will live with the consequences of this decision long after tonight, I respectfully ask you to deny this application. Application. Thank you. Thank

2:38:15Speaker 2

you, Brandon Shannon. And then our next speaker is Teresa Clifton.

2:38:23Speaker 16

Can't believe I have to follow that one. What what? I'm sorry?

2:38:27 – 2:39:12Speaker 20

I said I can't believe I have to follow that one. So my name is Brandon Shannon. I've lived in Brevard County for the last six years and on Merritt Island only for the past six months. Clearly, I wasn't born and raised here, but I'm standing here before you because of the community and and the people in it. Time and time again, this community has shown commitment to responsible development and preserving what makes this place special. And that commitment is what brought my me and my family here into the fold in the first place. That mentality and that commitment to community is what my family and I call this place home. This is my community, and these are my neighbors and my peers. I love living here. The friendly faces I see at the store, the simple kindness between neighbors, the gorgeous weather, and the low key way of life.

2:39:12 – 2:39:58Speaker 20

That's what makes Merritt Island in our community great. It's our responsibility as residents to make our voices heard, and it's your primary responsibility to act in the best interest of the people you serve. That means listening to us and rejecting this proposal to rezone the parcel. The proposal rezone the parcel from agricultural residential to medium density, multiple family residential with the intent to use as a dense pack apartment complex is irresponsible, largely irreversible, and risks setting a damning presence. According to traffic study by Bowman cons consulting group, this project would generate 1,379 daily trips in and out.

2:39:58 – 2:40:30Speaker 20

That's 1,379 additional turns across traffic or U turns. That's 1,379 more opportunities for crashes, and that's 1,379 more vehicles feeding into the 528 Interchange. None of that is in best interest of the residents who live here. The same traffic study also claimed that the current agricultural residential zoning could generate up to 5,500 daily trips attributed to the proposed future land use for hospital. But we have to ask, do we really think a hospital will ever be put in this place?

2:40:30 – 2:41:15Speaker 20

Cape Canaveral Hospital down the road is roughly the same size of this size of this plot. The replacement Rockledge Hospital will be about double the size and it would be a stretch to make a business case to build a hospital at this specific location. Even if it were, it at least would provide long term quality jobs for hundreds of people for decades into the future. This apartment complex simply will not. Attachment three of the study also listed traffic impacts for other potential uses of this land, 36 daily trips for single family homes, nine for a park, 341 for plant nursery, 42 for a golf course, and if I may, I'll add zero if we just leave the land alone.

2:41:21 – 2:41:58Speaker 20

I also wanna acknowledge the need for affordable housing is very real in our community. This proposal does nothing to create affordable living for people who live here and work here without clear enforceable affordability commitments. It would simply add more expensive market level market rate apartments, not the attainable homes that this community and people that we want to move into this community desperately need. I wanna be clear, I'm not against growth. My family's here because of thoughtful growth made it it's what made this a great place to live and it's what brought us brought us here.

2:41:58 – 2:42:22Speaker 20

What I'm asking for is growth in the right place at the right scale and for the right reasons. Zoning is a promise to current residents and to the future buyers about what they can reasonably expect next door to them. If this promise is broken here, you don't just change one parcel. You weaken the trust that keeps people engaged and supportive of of our mission. Individual choices add up to big change none of us intended.

2:42:22 – 2:42:57Speaker 20

If there is any doubt there on the side of protection, we can always consider a better proposal later. We unbuild a project that doesn't fit. Today, you have an opportunity to show that local voices matter more than distant interests, to show that stewardship outranks short term gain and show that your duty to the public interest guides you when it counts. This proposal is being brought forward by outside interest. Approving the rezoning of this parcel for agriculture from agriculture to medium density multiple family residence would not reflect your core responsibility to the people of this community.

2:42:57 – 2:43:28Speaker 20

It would mean ignoring the voices of the people who elected you in favor of those who don't live here. Please listen to your constituents and reject rezoning. I I do wanna quickly acknowledge I I see you guys are are tired and hungry and thirsty, and I appreciate you guys listening to us. And I do wanna acknowledge the the effort you guys put forward. It was clearly a lot of work and very expensive, but I do wanna reiterate that this is our community and not yours. This is Vieira, and this is this is not Vieira. This is Merit Island. Thank you.

2:43:37Speaker 2

Teresa Severson.

2:43:42 – 2:44:16Speaker 45

Good evening. Teresa Clifton. I own a house at 2350 Raintree Lake Circle. I bought it in October 1998. So my heart goes out to the young lady. She probably lives on the backside of the neighborhood because when it rains, that it the water flows down towards the river and that's why that happens. Anyway, I'm not gonna add comments for everything that's already been said because I don't wanna waste y'all's time. I'm tired. I got other stuff to do too. What kept me here is I had an interesting conversation with people from FDOT.

2:44:17 – 2:45:18Speaker 45

My conversation had more to do with this project that they're gonna do with North Courtney Parkway safety improvements that will literally, to me, cause more traffic jams than save more lives, but that's that's not here or there for today. The interesting part was they're not aware of that development coming in that wasn't part of their study to try to fix Courtney Parkway. Also, I've I've heard remnants of there's about 40 acres on the other side of Pioneer that, well, they're looking at seeing what happens here to see if they can do that with theirs. So Pioneer is already under stress and when they go ahead and do what they're gonna do with the concrete barriers, I'm not real big on what I call suicide lanes because, yeah, that gets scary on Courtney, but it is creating a really bad situation, and it's only gonna get worse. And you don't wanna stop development.

2:45:18 – 2:45:49Speaker 45

I get that. I do have concerns about the environment. I don't think that you can concrete in around one acre and whatever creatures living there in that wild area in the wetlands is gonna survive it because I've seen it and it just doesn't it just doesn't happen. You might as well just go ahead and just mow it all down because whatever's there is going to one day come out and get mushed in the road, and then there won't be it there. So, anyway, that's pretty much what I had to say.

2:45:49 – 2:46:08Speaker 45

I just wanna make sure y'all are aware that the two people I spoke with last Thursday from FDOT who came over from Sanford who are in charge of this project were not aware that we're we have all these other building things happening. So they were not taken into account with any of that traffic study or whatever that was. Thank you.

2:46:08Speaker 2

Thank you. Joseph and Kimberly Jarvis will be next.

2:46:22Speaker 39

Alright. Good evening. My name is Joseph Severson. I am also an engineer here on the island, so I applaud you guys coming up and giving your credentials. That's great.

2:46:30 – 2:47:17Speaker 39

However, my background is in the US army as a veteran and currently as safety engineer with a background in environmental studies and environmental sciences. My career both in uniform and outside of uniform working as an engineer now is been built on identifying hazards, evaluating risk pathways, and protecting people from preventable harm, which by looking at this zoning question here, that's what we're doing. We're trying to protect people from preventable harm by coming here and speaking against this effort. From that perspective, the proposed the proposed development in North Courtney Parkway and Pioneer Road presents multiple high severity risks that cannot be responsibly mitigated and so far from the planning that I've seen have not been responsibly mitigated. Several of these risks directly conflict with the current Florida law.

2:47:17 – 2:48:11Speaker 39

I wanna begin with the most immediate and unacceptable risk which is the school's own safety. I know a lot of folks that have been here including a couple veterans have already spoken on that tonight and so I won't hash over a lot of their things that they've already covered, but Pioneer Road is the primary access for Lewis Carroll Elementary. During drop off and pick off, the corridor already experiences congestion, unpredictable traffic behavior, limited visibility including introducing a high density residential complex to that flow will increase the number of conflict points between the vehicles and children, which in my understanding is the worst case scenario we're looking at here, overarching all of the other discussions that we've had this evening so far. And I'll get to that at the end of my discussion here. Under Florida statute one six three dot three one seven six section six a, local governments must ensure that land use decisions protect public safety and maintain a safe transportation can maintain safe transportation conditions.

2:48:11 – 2:48:58Speaker 39

Looking at all of the things that have been discussed here this evening, that's not what's happening and especially if this gets approved. This project knowingly elevates probability of vehicle and pedestrian incidents as an area where the are severe and irreversible. We're talking about the lives of children and once again I'll get to that again at the end here, but second and not as serious as the first issue that I was bringing up is the flooding and storm water risks are substantial and well documented, not to mention that there have been lived experiences here this evening that have documented that and showed that to both the board and the other members of the development team here. Elevating a new development and adding large is is bit the is

2:49:01 – 2:49:47Speaker 39

Proposition that went into the storm water area there. And so that's going to create a significant issue and any engineer worth their salt knows that the more concrete you add to an area that's currently under not developed is going to create water issues. And so looking at that alone in from a layman's perspective knows that it's going to create an issue. I also want to make the point that under Florida law, the burden of proof is on the developer, not the public to discriminate to demonstrate reasonable assurance that this project will not increase flooding, degrade water quality, or create off-site impacts. Once again, looking at the plan that was proposed, that's that's not being addressed and it's not creating reasonable assurance in my eyes and of those that are already here for the meeting as well.

2:49:48 – 2:50:15Speaker 39

The community does not have to prove that this project will harm us. The applicant, meaning the developers must prove no harm and in that case it's not happening. So it would be negligence in order to to approve this zoning this rezoning. And I apologize, I'm a little bit nervous here. I wasn't emotional when I started out this process, but when the individual came up and spoke and and spoke to the emotionalist and almost insulted all the folks in this room, it kinda set me off a little bit, so I apologize for that.

2:50:22 – 2:51:11Speaker 39

Section three zero three d of the clean water act in Florida statute four zero three zero six seven governs b maps. Our and I apologize now I'm drawing a complete blank on the acronym for b map, basin management We're present. We're looking looking at at adding adding more more concrete concrete, which which is is going going to to exacerbate that situation even further. Not to mention the amount of pollutants that are gonna come off of these parking lots, not to mention the amount of pollutants that are gonna come out of the folks that are living in these high density housing areas. It's gonna add more pollution to an already struggling VMAP and it's gonna cost us the taxpayers more money to try and fix those issues.

2:51:11 – 2:51:47Speaker 39

So we're basically shooting ourselves in the foot by approving something like this. It's gonna cost us more money in the future. Lastly, I wanna say that as a safety engineer, I evaluate risk for a living. Looking at this rezoning effort, we're we're looking at a risk where the severity is very high. That worst case scenario of a vehicle impacting a child is the highest case and the worst severity we're looking at, it's already got a high likelihood that that will occur based on the traffic patterns and admittedly the traffic patterns that most folks here have admitted and then the failure of the analysis that was conducted by the other engineering group here.

2:51:47 – 2:52:17Speaker 39

And the mitigations are either non nonexistent or insufficient to prevent that from happening. All in all, I wanna say that in the event that that worst case scenario does happen and that there is a death of child in that area because of that school's proximity to this proposed high density living area, that blood is gonna be on the hands of the individuals who approve this, not on the hands of the developers because they don't care. They don't live here. I think it's obvious my vote is no and I hope that you guys see that as well. Thank you for your time.

2:52:25Speaker 2

Kimberly Jarvis and then Lynn Knight.

2:52:31 – 2:53:00Speaker 25

My name is Kimberly Jarvis. I am a Mary Allen resident. I'm also a member of the Space Coast chapter of the National Audubon Society, and I'm a volunteer with the Audubon's Eagle Watch program. There is an active bald eagle nest to southeast of that property. Hello. I have it right here. I have it right here. That's Courtney. That's Courtney right there. Yep.

2:53:00 – 2:53:40Speaker 25

There's a nest. This is the property right over here. This right here. The southeast south the 660 foot buffer for the nest crosses the Southeast corner. The 660 foot buffer for the nest crosses the Southeast corner of that property. To put it in perspective that most everybody here can understand, 660 feet is two footfall fields and two two footfalls. I'm sure every everybody can relate to that. Let me give you this for a second. Bald eagles have exceptional eyesight. They can see rabbit sized prey in the grass three miles away.

2:53:41 – 2:53:52Speaker 25

Their herring is a formative to that of an adult human being. This development will have a very negative impact. We've already had I'll show you some pictures of my nest.

2:53:52Speaker 10

There's a microphone. Microphone. We

2:53:55Speaker 25

have some pictures here. Oops. That way. Come on, Tim.

2:54:03 – 2:54:19Speaker 25

way. I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out when you say. I took this picture in January. Seeing a little prayer?

2:54:24 – 2:55:02Speaker 25

I took this picture in early March. He fledged two days after I took that picture. I couldn't wait for me to get back there. There are also owls on that property. There are barn owls, b a r r e d. Of course not. I'll figure it out one of these days. That is a fledgling barn owl. Somebody who lives in Miller, the palace sent me that picture. I went out there one rainy Tuesday night before the planning and zoning board meeting in March, and I recorded owls calling.

2:55:02 – 2:55:18Speaker 25

I can play the call for you. I don't know how you can hear it. My phone's not that loud. Yeah. But anyway, there are there are barren owls on that property.

2:55:19 – 2:55:54Speaker 25

I also heard black bellied whistling ducks. At the end of the Space Coast Shorebird partnership meet preseason meeting in April, I spoke with one of the men from FWC, and he said an environmental impact study is required to be done, and developers have a bad habit of skipping that part. If the rezoning is approved, I'll be on the phone with FWC first thing tomorrow morning to make sure an environmental impact study is done. There are there are more eaglets in that net. There's at least one more eaglet in the nest.

2:55:55 – 2:56:40Speaker 25

I've seen the female laying in the nest, and I've seen her sitting up on a branch above it being very watchful. There's only two times the eagles laying in nest. One is when they're incubating eggs, and the other is when they're brooding brooding egg whites. Since the owl since adults are not there all the time, there's eaglets in that nest, which means we're hoping we're gonna have another fledge. So nest is not only considered active, it's considered successful. And I will be ensuring that my eagles are protected. I love my eagles. I keep pulling my nest my nest. And somebody asked me, well, how can you own eagles? I said, I don't I just own the nest and rented two eagles.

2:56:42Speaker 2

Thank you. Lynn Knight. Lynn Knight. And the next speaker will be Tracy King.

2:57:08 – 2:57:46Speaker 34

My name is Lynn Knight, and I've lived in Merritt Island for forty six six years. My husband was the head man head engineer at the Air Force Station, and he passed away at at 49. Anyway, I wanted to tell you we moved here because this was the dream of his life. He never wanted to go any place but the space center. And we when we came here, I believe if I'm not wrong and my pardon me for being disc discombobulated, discombobulated, but I think we had $30,000 here or 30,000 people here in Merritt Island, I may be mistaken, in 1980.

2:57:46 – 2:58:24Speaker 34

But I know that Thad was a child. We introduced him to this stuff. Anyway, my reason for speaking today is because, you know, there's so much about the planning and zoning board that they are I appreciate everything that you are doing, and I appreciate all that the young people are doing at the Planning and Zoning Board. But Brevard County is like backward politics. It's like the oldest of the oldest of the oldest, and they're so far behind in everything that it's really sad because when it comes around, we're the ones that are suffering.

2:58:24 – 2:58:53Speaker 34

I wanna thank our commissioner Goodson. I appreciate very much him being sick and listening to this from all of us people because we're very concerned. I wanna tell you, I went to the Department of Transportation yesterday and I spoke with a woman that was very involved and had been doing this for many, many years. She was out of DeLand, which is the district of DeLand, which is where we're from. That's where we go for our transportation.

2:58:54 – 2:59:49Speaker 34

She told me at that time that we had at the present time 30 27,500 cars and that on Courtney up to 34,000 and it was 30,750 South Of Courtney off of 5 Past 520. So we have way, way more than anybody ever knows out there that's traveling up and down our waterways and our riverways or our streets. I just wanna tell you that one of the gentlemen said that if this was approved, it would be 1,329 trips per day, okay, for the amount of people that they had. Well, you can more than double that. It'll be 26,058 because the property directly across was is not addressed at the present time is what's coming up next.

2:59:50 – 3:00:09Speaker 34

And so we're gonna have that many more apartments right across the street. And my child went to Lewis Carroll Elementary and graduated and it's a fabulous school. We have so many schools off of Courtney. We have so many churches off of Courtney. We have so many businesses that we welcome.

3:00:10 – 3:00:43Speaker 34

But I'm just telling you, when you have like even a hotel, when it comes to the evacuation, I've been through the evacuation three times. And I wanna tell you something, it's not funny. And that was back when there was 30,000 people. I paid 115,000 for my house back in 1980, and I went to a commission meeting and was so dissatisfied with what happened. I joined the committee to save Sykes Creek and this is not any better than it was back in 1980.

3:00:44 – 3:01:24Speaker 34

It's nothing against the planning and zoning people that work it. It's the information that's given to them. You know, that's what is happening in our in our Merritt Island because just like out at the space center, when they bring in the third star ship, I wonder if any of you know that the velocity or whatever it's called from the the noise from the shuttle is going to be 10 times more than it is now with the space shuttle. And all of us are gonna have to have our windows replaced. My house right now is worth I paid a 115,000.

3:01:24 – 3:01:48Speaker 34

It's now worth 1,000,000. And and it's really sad because we also have property that's on the street, right down the street at Lewis Carroll. And at the end of the street, it is very marshy and watery. And we have on our street Topaz, we have they were talking about traffic. The traffic on our street is horrendous.

3:01:48 – 3:02:24Speaker 34

The cars are doubled up to wait for their children to get out of there. That street was originally manufactured because of Lewis Carroll Elementary. I have the numbers and stuff for all these different places that I've gotten together, but there's so many things that I could say that I'm not gonna bore you because I know you have to go to bed too, you know. But I'm just telling you that the sewage that I dealt with back in 1980, I wanna tell you honest to God, I worked for seven years. I raised the money.

3:02:25 – 3:03:10Speaker 34

I was the person that went out there and the Today newspaper called an irate idiot. Well, I told him, I said, let me bring my information to you and you'll see how many irate idiots are out there. We we sued the county. We got rid of all of the commissioners, which, you know, they had done their share, but we raised the money to get a million and a half sewage treatment plant. And we've got people now that are gonna be dumping into the river that have just been approved, and and they're huge corporations. And so, I mean, it's just it's tragic. It's really tragic, and we just do not need anymore anymore. It's too overfilled right now.

3:03:15Speaker 2

Thank thank you. Tracy King is our next speaker, and then Veronica.

3:03:20Speaker 10

I wanted to say I do everything that was said here. I'm gonna save everybody the time, but I very much would ask

3:03:28Speaker 2

Like so. Tracy is waiving her speaking time, but she's against the project. Let that be reflected. Thank you. Thank you.

3:03:41Speaker 2

Veronica O'Cullier.

3:03:48Speaker 17

Alright. Before my time start, I just wanted to be clear. Is it thirty minutes? Is do we also get sir rebuttal here? Okay. We

3:03:54Speaker 2

give you the same as the presenter. You have no rebuttal? Sir rebuttal?

3:04:00Speaker 10

Yes. Included. We

3:04:02Speaker 2

give you thirty minutes

3:04:03 – 3:04:27Speaker 17

to the to their rebuttal is what I was asking. That's common in, you know, litigation work. Let's ask. Sam. Okay. Want to be clear. I know every county is different, so I always double check every single time. So well, good good afternoon or should I say good evening commissioners. My name is Veronica Ochler. I'm here to represent the Sykes Cove Community Association.

3:04:28 – 3:04:50Speaker 17

This entire community has come out in droves. I can't say the entire. Many people are still working and couldn't physically be here, but over 3,000 signatures, that's something quite significant that I thought I should point out. I also wanted to acknowledge and recognize everyone who has come to speak here today. They've kind of stolen my thunder, so great job everyone, like they they have covered a lot here today.

3:04:50 – 3:05:17Speaker 17

I do want to give you a little bit of background for my about myself as well because not all of you have met me. I am an environmental land use and real estate attorney. I have worked in both the real estate development side as well as standing up against real estate development at times. I worked in state government for Department of Transportation, I worked in the governor's office in their environmental land use area. I have kind of seen all sides of this coin.

3:05:17 – 3:05:42Speaker 17

I understand being in the government, you have to find a balance. It is a balancing act between all of these different interests. And that is a very difficult a difficult burden that you do have to carry. So I wanna acknowledge that, and I know everyone here acknowledges that as well even if we all have disagreements as to how best to do that job. I also want to acknowledge that, yes, the development team here has made efforts.

3:05:42 – 3:06:11Speaker 17

They have made efforts based on some public feedback and some efforts were based on things that they simply just did not know because they're not from this community. They're not local. A lot of work that comes into this is based off of on the ground, boots on the ground, knowing what's going on, and it's not simply doing a desk review. I'm very familiar with desk reviews, I'm an attorney, we're at my desk most of the time, it's kind of the downside so to speak. I don't get the exercise I'd like to get, but it's part of the work.

3:06:11 – 3:06:28Speaker 17

Right? The desk review is only one phase of the work. Getting out into the community, that's a very important phase and as a land use attorney this is something I often try to recommend to developers. Talk to me before you purchase the property. Talk to me before you start doing your market research analysis.

3:06:28 – 3:07:14Speaker 17

We have experts that help you analyze whether this is a good business decision, whether this is the right property in the right project at the right time in the right location. There's a lot of right, right, right when it comes to this and that's because, well, you've heard it from realtors location, location, location, right? What it comes down to is if an individual or a company wants to do some kind of a development, they have to consider not just the local laws, but the impacts to the individuals in that area. And I believe that they did make quite a bit of effort when it comes to that, but there are a number of factors that were originally not really considered that our community had to raise to their attention or bring to their attention, and that was really important. I think that's why we have this public this public comment process.

3:07:15 – 3:08:08Speaker 17

In particular, I wanted to talk a little bit more about storm water drainage and surface water impacts, but I didn't wanna waste your time. I just wanna drive home some of these points because we had a fantastic engineer, environmental engineer who came out here earlier and actually answered and stated a lot of things that I really wanted to point out. But I'm gonna elaborate a little bit further. In my experience as an environmental real estate and land use attorney, in my experience working at DOT that has a lot of impervious surface, I had to deal with a number of environmental impact statements, environmental analysis, storm water drainage capacity analyses, and I looked at it from not just an environmental perspective, thankfully my background included an ecology degree for from the University of Florida. So I also understand the engineering and the science that goes behind it, not just the well, we'll just call it the boring reading of the law, just the words.

3:08:08 – 3:08:45Speaker 17

I can actually read these maps as well and that's something that is very difficult for the average person to do sometimes when they're not involved in this on the day in and day out. So that's something that we often recommend when we're speaking with developers as land use attorneys. We say, hey, let me help you with your site plan before you start trying to do your rezoning, before you start making offers to a property owner to see if this is even feasible for you. I argue that this project is not feasible in this location. I think it's a great idea to build multifamily residential in the right place because we do have needs for housing in the right place.

3:08:46 – 3:09:11Speaker 17

That is simply just not the case here. In particular with regard to this property, it is currently vegetated with a mature tree canopy and natural ground cover. It provides infiltration, infiltration into our groundwater. Right now it absorbs water that lands on the surface of this property. And once it's built up, that no longer applies.

3:09:11 – 3:09:38Speaker 17

That water washes away. This property currently also conveys preexisting historical natural flows. That's actually a legal term, so I won't bore you with the details. It just essentially allows for water that is on the surface to flow, sheet flow, or whether it is through an actual river or creek that is surface water movement. That surface water movement goes straight through this property, so that's going to have to be diverted and accounted for.

3:09:38 – 3:10:10Speaker 17

That ends up in public stormwater facilities, not private. In addition to that, this property sits within the FEMA Flood Zone X as we've all seen many of the community members have provided actual evidence and not just words, just emotional experiences. They provided evidence even though they don't have the burden to prove anything. The burden is on the developer here. They've shown that this area already floods through standard rainstorm events, not through heavy hurricane rain events and that's something very important to consider here.

3:10:10 – 3:10:42Speaker 17

As already explained, this property is going to be elevated. We're in Florida and a difference of half an inch determines whether a property gets flooded. I've had to deal with a number of representing property owners all throughout Central Florida especially, but all throughout the state regarding their neighbor suddenly developing their property and they're getting flooded. The property owner who didn't do any of the changes, now that person is stuck holding the bag. So we want to prevent that and that's actually something I tend to offer a lot of times as as a land use attorney.

3:10:42 – 3:11:10Speaker 17

I try to help with those site plans before a property or before a client even purchases the property or considers purchasing the property because this may not be the right property for that. So that's another aspect to consider. So this area already prone to shallow flooding and sheet flow and ponding now wants to build 222 units. That's eight buildings. It also includes parking areas and infrastructure.

3:11:10 – 3:11:52Speaker 17

We also have drive aisles, so it's not just parking, they have to drive through the property, that's all paved as well. So this increases the amount of impervious and impermeable surface area. A pool is also not pervious. A clubhouse that's being proposed is also not pervious. All the related amenities also not pervious. So this is what we start running into a lot of problems. The conversion increases runoff volume and peak discharge rates. It disrupts existing historical flow paths, it reduces the site current capacity to store floodwaters. And then on top of that, there's two acres over two acres of wetlands per the wetland delineation. That is what it states.

3:11:53 – 3:12:30Speaker 17

The wetland delineation note was not required to be done yet or so they said. It actually is per the comprehensive plan when you're considering the five factors. I'm happy to to recap here toward the end of my discussion with you if you have any follow-up questions, I'm happy to go into that as well. But what's particularly concerning here is usually during the rezoning phase as I have seen in my experience, rezoning usually when a site plan is produced, it is required to understand what the proposed use is going to be, especially when it's a significant upzoning. We're going from AU to RU sorry, RU 230.

3:12:30 – 3:12:49Speaker 17

That's a huge jump. That's not a minor jump to match what's already existing abutting the property. That's a significant jump trying to keep up with what's going on in a different portion of the island, a different portion within the county. It's simply not within this specific area. So this is going to require a higher level of scrutiny.

3:12:49 – 3:13:24Speaker 17

That includes looking at all of the factors within the comprehensive plan that this board has the authority to review, including requiring a review of wetland delineation and potential impacts to wetlands, to stormwater, to surface flows and flooding. Now, the developers team, they did mention, okay, a 100 foot buffer. That's a great that's a great 100 foot buffer that was not originally part of the plan. They did it because this community stood up and spoke up for themselves and said we don't want this being built right atop our houses. And so a 100 foot buffer was offered.

3:13:24 – 3:14:07Speaker 17

However, that 100 foot buffer I assume that's where the storm water is gonna go. We don't know. Site plan doesn't say. It doesn't show anything about where that storm water will go, how it's going to be managed. So I'm gonna get a little bit legal on you, little lawyerly. I'm gonna reference here land development code, the storm water management criteria. Chapter 62 and it's a bit long, we have to drill down a bit. So it's chapter 62 article 10 division six exhibit a section 1.1. This section specifically mandates two things that are applicable here on this project. One is that no site alteration shall adversely affect the existing surface water flow pattern, and two that post development runoff shall not be greater than pre development runoff.

3:14:07 – 3:14:49Speaker 17

These are all things that must be considered as part of the application. Now, I'll touch on what the difference is between rezoning stage versus site planning stage and permitting stage. They are two different things, but one does not necessarily prohibit the other from being considered. Site planning work is more specific and more detailed, but there still must be a preliminary information provided during the rezoning stage and there's not been enough preliminary information provided to even make that decision in order to match all the requirements of those five factors. And I could drill down into those a little bit without getting too into the weeds.

3:14:50 – 3:15:29Speaker 17

These are technical matters not just for the later site plan and permitting approval stages, which I also want to remind everyone. The reason we have these public hearings is because once you get to site plan and once you get to permitting, they're rarely put in the spotlight. These are not held with public hearings, some rezonings or sorry should I say some site plans require public hearings, this one wouldn't. So how on earth can we hold them accountable once we're out of the sunlight sunshine? Once we are back in the dark of just being one on one dealing dealing with one individual who's making decisions and yet we have no idea as the public what's going on.

3:15:30 – 3:15:58Speaker 17

And you as a board would not know what's going on either. The surface water element of comprehensive plan policy 3.1 requires retention of runoff with no increase in discharge for the twenty five year twenty four hour storm. Just going to rattle off some stuff so you have it on the record. Policy 4.5 prohibits impacts to adjacent properties and receiving waters and flood prone areas. Objective four requires maintaining natural drainage features and flood storage.

3:15:59 – 3:16:25Speaker 17

The conservation element of the comprehensive plan policy 4.2 requires no net change in flood water rate and volume across the storm events. It encourages minimizing impervious and preserving flood storage. Policy 5.5 directs incorporation of wetlands into water management systems. So this is where I wanted to pause for a moment. Again, we have no storm water management plan provided.

3:16:25 – 3:16:46Speaker 17

We have no idea what this in this project is going to entail. We understand that there are over two acres of wetlands and the site plan already intends to build on top of portions of those wetlands without any reference to what the mitigation will entail. There's no compensation area for preexisting flood zone which must be calculated. I won't get too technical into that. We'll leave that for later.

3:16:46 – 3:17:14Speaker 17

And then of course the storm water ponds. So all of that must be accounted for within the administrative or conservation element policy. More importantly, administrative policy seven of the comprehensive plan prohibits uses that cause or substantially aggravate any substantial substantial drainage problem on surrounding properties. So let's just pause there. We've already heard about all the flooding here.

3:17:14 – 3:17:54Speaker 17

I'm not saying this developer's causing it. Even if they did everything perfectly, they're still contributing to it. The reason they're contributing is because there's already a problem here, and we have to take into account the existing conditions of this specific area. And this all brings me back to what the five factors are, and I'll rattle them off for you here as well just as a reminder, but in particular that what to is part of factor five in your land development code for 62 Dash 1151 C, the five factors as to whether or not a rezoning can be approved. And it's the consideration of the public health, safety, and welfare.

3:17:54 – 3:18:13Speaker 17

That's the rezoning stage. That's not a permitting stage. That's not a site plan stage. That's now in the here and now and there's just way too many questions. So just as a quick recap regarding what those five requirements or five factors are, I will refer them to you here in just a moment.

3:18:15 – 3:18:52Speaker 17

Okay. Five factors that you must consider. This means that the developer here, the applicant has to prove all of these items to you today, or should I say tonight. First is the character of the surrounding land uses. We have heard quite a bit about the character of this community, this immediate area, not the character of all of Brevard County, not the character of what's happening South Of 528, not the character of what's happening in Viera, the character of what's happening right here in the immediate vicinity just South Of The 528 in Sykes Cove community and beyond, slightly beyond right there at Courtney and in Pioneer.

3:18:53 – 3:19:28Speaker 17

Second is changes in conditions since the current zoning was assigned. Okay. The current zoning is AU. The current zoning is NC. It is not RES 15. That's a potential future land use designation. And we wanna remind you of that because a potential future land use designation of Res 15 in the nineteen eighties was very different than what we're experiencing today. Not only that, that also takes into account that other laws have come into effect since then. Other changes have happened in the surrounding community since then. There have been other developments that have occurred since then.

3:19:28 – 3:19:59Speaker 17

Just today there was an approval for a rezoning to RU15 and RU30. So that needs to be taken into consideration. There's cumulative effects that occur whenever there's changes occurring on this island. But you know what the changes to this neighborhood haven't occurred. This continuing to be a low density residential neighborhood of single family homes, not multifamily, and that's a distinction that I think the the development team needs to recognize.

3:19:59 – 3:20:34Speaker 17

We're not comparing residential to commercial. We're not comparing residential to industrial. It's residential to residential, but what kinds of residential? Those are still two different uses. The fourth factor is impacts of traffic, water, sewer, and other public facilities. You've already heard this so I won't belabor it. The fourth I'm sorry that was the third. The fourth is compatibility with the adopted land use plans. That's a comprehensive plan. So the comprehensive plan is what is supposed to be considered as one of the five factors referenced in the land development code.

3:20:34 – 3:21:09Speaker 17

We consider everything that's in the comprehensive plan here and now tonight. We don't wait until some other point in time in the future when the developer finally gets around to coming up with a storm water plan. We don't wait until the developer finally comes up with a plan to maybe mitigate for wetlands. We don't come up with a plan later on how this is going to impact our storm water sorry, not storm water, well, storm water as well, but our sewer, our water, water, our impacts to our school. It's not just that, it's traffic as well and this is a dangerous intersection that's already been documented.

3:21:09 – 3:21:49Speaker 17

And then of course the fifth factor is the appropriateness of the rezoning for public health, safety, and welfare and that's already been discussed here extensively as well. So what we come down to is recognizing as well that the burden of proof is on the applicant, the developer, and you've heard that as well. I just wanna really drill that home because they have to prove by substantial and competent evidence that they're not causing harm and that they're meeting all of these requirements of the five factors and drilling down through all the requirements of the comprehensive plan. Not just the land use element, all of the elements. And that's specifically required per the comprehensive plan and the land development code.

3:21:50 – 3:22:06Speaker 17

So wanting to make sure that you just to kind of follow-up and make sure you've heard everything before you. You heard today a couple different things. One is these five factors that I just spoke to you about. Right? These are addition there's additional binding criteria in addition to the five factors.

3:22:06 – 3:22:44Speaker 17

That's the comprehensive plan. There is also the burden of proof that the applicant not the community needs to show this substantial competent evidence. In fact, if you were to look at this as say a trial, a criminal trial, not to say that they're being criminals, I'm just saying if this were a criminal trial, the defendant all needs, all they need to show is reasonable doubt. There is loads there's loads of reasonable doubt presented here to you today as was presented at the lower levels with the planning and zoning board. You also heard about the developers likely argument, well maybe you may not have heard this, at the arguments made at the planning and zoning board, I'll slow myself down.

3:22:45 – 3:23:27Speaker 17

Again coming back to the infrastructure is a site plan issue that's directly contradicted by section 62 dash eleven fifty one c and by section 62 dash six zero two b that was already referenced by some of our community members here today. Also comprehensive plan policies three through six and the capital improvements element. All of this requires you as the board to evaluate these impacts at the rezoning phase here and now tonight. Not some future date where it'll be done in the dark because it'll no longer be in your hands. It'll be a decision made by desk review individuals and not those who are physically on the ground like everyone in this community who came to speak tonight.

3:23:28 – 3:23:53Speaker 17

You also heard that the developers own roadway capacity analysis proved that Courtney Parkway, I'm sorry, that Courtney is already at 88% capacity. You have these documents, they were already produced to you even though this traffic impact study was done over three different studies. They had to keep going back and correcting things. That's a bit concerning that they had to keep going back and correcting things. Having been at DOT for many years, I'm working with many developers myself.

3:23:53 – 3:24:38Speaker 17

We regularly have to do traffic impact analyses at this stage, not later. And those traffic analyses don't just look at a twenty four hour over the course of two days during a time when school wasn't necessarily in session. It looks at peak rates, peak traffic time, and how long it takes during the peak when the congestion is most significant. Again, it's already been raised that this community will bring in the typical eight to five kind of families that are leaving to work generally in mass, arriving from work generally in mass, at the same time that school is arriving and leaving en masse all at the same time at a roadway that it has no more capacity available to it. While that may not be our community's fault, it may not be the developer's fault.

3:24:38 – 3:25:15Speaker 17

That is a factor they should have considered before considering this property, before wanting to go through this rezoning process and see, hey, is this even a possibility given the constraints of the existing roadway, the constraints of the utilities and infrastructure, the constraints of the school right here, so on and so forth. Those are all factors they should have considered and failed to do so. And I understand they did spend a lot of time trying to find a way to make this square. Was it round peg fit in a square hole or is a square peg fit in a round hole? I always mess those up.

3:25:15 – 3:25:57Speaker 17

The point is they're trying to make something fit here that does not belong. And it's really upsetting to the community because they're already dealing with the day in and day out frustrations of the over congested over congestion that has happened here, and there wasn't even development with their own neighborhood, with their own within their own existing area. All that's happened is services have been provided finally. Oh, they get a, you know, we get a Starbucks, great. We would love Starbucks. This isn't providing service and that's something really important to consider. Here this project is already at very high capacity. It will this project will consume 25% of the remaining capacity. This is based their traffic studies. So that brings us up to 93%.

3:25:57 – 3:26:13Speaker 17

That does not even account for an already approved development that's coming into play. The traffic counts didn't account for them because they're not there yet. But once this place, this project has its entitlements in hand, it's too late. You can't turn them down then. It's too late.

3:26:13 – 3:26:51Speaker 17

The new development will already having been will have already been built and now we have no more space to move our cars, to move our people, to move people to the space center for all the great jobs that are happening out there and the great jobs that happen all throughout this island in this county. We've touched as well on the schools. You've heard that the school concurrency determination, it's just a preliminary expressly non binding analysis. It doesn't say anything about what future work is going to be here, what the future capacity needs are going to be. It does not take into account the other developments that were slated for approval.

3:26:51 – 3:27:13Speaker 17

None of that was taken into account because it just goes based off of right here, right now, what do we know? And there's still so much in the air that has not been answered. Again, with the burden of proof being to answer those questions by the development team, they just can't answer it. This is not the right place, that's why. You also heard about impacts to infrastructure.

3:27:14 – 3:27:48Speaker 17

You heard about the potable water, the sewer capacity for sanitary sewer, you've heard about the neighborhood character unmistakably it's single family residential all throughout here. And this is a living facility that's brand new right next door does not change the character of the neighborhood. In fact, its way in and out is primarily directly on Courtney. Its secondary access point is not something that's used on the regular basis by these individuals who are living in the facility. As already stated, these are people who are not going to work eight to five outside hours.

3:27:48 – 3:28:15Speaker 17

These are not people who are congesting the roadway. What's being proposed here will congest the roadway and will continue to tax this community further. The density as you've already heard as well is a ceiling not an entitlement. Policy 1.1 expressly allows this board to limit that density. And so I want you to be very clear, not only does the policy required, it has been codified in your land development code as well.

3:28:17 – 3:28:34Speaker 17

Wetlands we've already discussed, you've already heard no net losses allowed here and yet they're losing wetlands. How are we going to balance that interest? That hasn't been answered. It could at least be a few options that are being presented and yet none have been presented at all. It's just been swept under the rug and ignore what's going on.

3:28:35 – 3:29:19Speaker 17

Quality of life and property value is something really important I think you may also want to look at. You've heard about administrative policy three that requires evaluation of impacts to the enjoyment, safety, and quality of life in existing neighborhoods. This is part of the five factors once you drill down within the comprehensive plan, you have to understand what factor three looks into. We look right there specifically at the impacts to the enjoyment, safety, and quality of life in existing neighborhoods. So we don't want to turn our back on those who are already here to benefit someone in the future who then in turn will also end up struggling because they can't even get out of their homes.

3:29:20 – 3:29:44Speaker 17

It's it's going to be a challenge all across the board. It's not speculative. It's reasonable doubt. They have to prove by substantial competent evidence and they've ignored the DOT public records as already stated by other commenters here today about how many vehicles are actually on this roadway. One study, one day for twenty four hour period, that doesn't really cover it.

3:29:44 – 3:30:22Speaker 17

DOT has quite a lot of studies they can review to really understand better what's going on here. So at a minimum, I want you to also recognize I mentioned the less intense classification section 62 and here's the the citation for for the record. Section 62 dash eleven fifty one h specifically allows this board as well as a planning and zoning board as well as planning staff to require a lower level of density. It doesn't require an RU two fifteen, RU two thirty. This whole area is RU one.

3:30:23 – 3:31:01Speaker 17

RU one in AU. This is a major shift and a major change to what's going on here and you have the authority, one to deny them outright because they've already failed to meet all of the requirements, all these five factors that I've listed, they have deficiencies in every single one. But on top of that, they have failed to answer a lot of the public's questions about how they can do a less a less dense option. What they have answered in the public sorry, in the planning and zoning board hearings is, well it's just not financially feasible for us to do lower density. It's not financially feasible for who?

3:31:01 – 3:31:48Speaker 17

For for for the developer who then leaves and walks away and doesn't have to deal with the problem and the community does. The residents who move into these apartments have to deal with it too. So that's something really important I want to raise to your attention because if they are to get a rezoning, are you one dash one, are you one dash five, are you one dash 11? My goodness, there's so many are you one options they could have chosen from, but they chose instead, are you two increasing increasing from single family, low density residential to highly concentrated multifamily that's going to hurt not just the community living here in the here and now, but the community who's supposed to be moving into these very buildings. How's that gonna be a luxury being stuck in your apartment because you can't make a turn onto your road?

3:31:55 – 3:32:18Speaker 17

So my last two minutes I just wanted to drive home a few last items. Let's see. There's so much. I'm trying not to bog you down because there is just so much to pick at here. And it's not being nitpicky, it's just there's so many holes and so many holes in what has been presented to you by the development team that has this community has been asking for months on end.

3:32:18 – 3:32:49Speaker 17

What six months it was? And yet they've not been answered. There have been attempts and I understand the effort there, you know, there were factors that maybe they hadn't considered because they didn't know. If you're not from this area you may not know the kinds of factors that you need to consider. So I understand why they didn't, we're not blaming y'all, but we also need to recognize that when we're looking at our comprehensive plan, we look at whether the proposed use would significantly diminish the enjoyment, safety, or quality of life in existing neighborhoods.

3:32:49 – 3:33:38Speaker 17

We look at whether it would cause reduction in the value of abutting lands. They were previously told in the planning and zoning commission, this community was told, well you haven't been able to prove that your property value would go down. That's not their burden. The burden is on the developer, the applicant to show that property values would actually go up. The proposed use the last the last of these factors within factors, I know it's kind of hard and kind of difficult, it's kind of you have to be a particular drill down kind of person when it comes to reading the laws of the county and the requirements of the comprehensive code and the Florida statutes and there are so many in this community who've done exactly that.

3:33:38 – 3:34:06Speaker 17

So it can make your life easier because you have so much on your place to have to consider and they've done the work for you when the developers have failed to do that themselves. The proposed use must be consistent not just with the emerging pattern but the existing pattern. And in Florida, if I could finish it, I just have two more minutes I can finish this thought. In Florida, we are treating our zoning like first in time, first in right. That's the reality everywhere.

3:34:06 – 3:34:27Speaker 17

Just because there were developments approved nearby within the last three years doesn't mean that we automatically have to approve every other development similarly to that. The reason it's a race when we're doing development in this state and anywhere for that matter is because at some point you just run out of room. You run out of capacity. We're on an island and we just can't take anymore. Thank you.

3:34:52 – 3:35:26Speaker 2

We're gonna five minute break. Yes. Before. We'll we'll take a five Okay. Wanna ask the board if it's okay. I think she had some time left over. We'd give her ten minutes in rebuttal. We'll add that ten ten minutes for rebuttal.

3:35:32Speaker 10

Thank you, chairman Altman, members of the board. Mister Goodson, are you still with us?

3:35:39 – 3:35:54Speaker 10

Great. So I I'm not really sure what to do with that last argument miss Ochler. In my opinion, she's misstated the law, both state and local.

3:35:58 – 3:36:16Speaker 10

I am from Brevard County. I've been doing this land use for twenty five years, not criminal defense or anything else or FDOT work. And so we have looked at the code. The developer did look at all the code and it has followed the law. This county nor does state law require a site plan at the rezoning stage.

3:36:17 – 3:36:49Speaker 10

It doesn't require storm water calculations. It doesn't require storm water treatment calculations. It doesn't require the clean water act or the Saint John's treatment rules to be complied with this stage. Also, your primary responsibility is to follow the law, not to listen to petitions, not to look at red shirts. And the law is very clear that the objections of a large number of residents to the affected neighborhood area are not a sound basis for the denial of a permit.

3:36:49 – 3:37:19Speaker 10

The quasi judicial function of the board of is to exercise on the basis of the facts seduced. Numerous objections of adjoining property owners may not properly be given even a cumulative effect. Other law, Flowers Baking Company versus City of Melbourne, objections of local residents to conditional use to the use requested are on fears of traffic do not constitute such substantial competent evidence. And that's what you've heard. As I've mentioned, a lot of fears here.

3:37:19 – 3:37:38Speaker 10

There's been one traffic engineer presented to you. The three different versions of the studies were based upon difference of opinions between traffic staff and our expert traffic engineer. There's one traffic engineer here. They did look at the Pioneer Road. They did look at standard reasons the way trips are distributed.

3:37:38 – 3:38:14Speaker 10

No one here has given any confidence substantial evidence in opposition, and your county staff has accepted that that analysis. Should you have questions of the traffic engineer based upon what you heard, he's available to do that. I presented you a packet of information that was presented to PNC and was left out of your packet. It deals with the concurrency evaluation procedures that has been discussed a couple of times today. And it is clear when you look at this that it does not require concurrency at the zoning stage.

3:38:14 – 3:38:42Speaker 10

Have the package right in front of you too, mister Altman. So the preliminary evaluation is for a zoning action. It does not require storm water or wetlands or anything else that has been misstated. This was provided to PNC to show that there was only a requirement for site plans to look at the 88% traffic capacity. That was in the memo that I provided to you.

3:38:43 – 3:39:23Speaker 10

For the definitions of the county comp plan, deficiency is the measure of impact of the development proposal which will qualitatively exceed the existing established minimum acceptable level of service for a public facility or service. This development does not exceed the level of service on Courtenay Parkway. Section sixty two six zero two b, only a preliminary evaluation is to be completed to show the availabilities of services and facilities for a zoning application. There's a non only if there's a non deficiency and the code provision is wait. Section sixty two two zero five f is for vesting of road capacity.

3:39:24 – 3:39:56Speaker 10

The proposed trips generated do not increase level of service. I also want to other statements made by miss Ochler. This developer doesn't walk away. They manage it. She made many references to facts facts that were not in the record, and she's so fond of saying this doesn't the decreasing in value, the requirement of your codes as it requires an MAI appraisal, not that it's anyone's not that it's their burden of proof.

3:39:57 – 3:40:11Speaker 10

The traffic study was done with two twenty four hour cycles. And believe it or not, twenty four hours does include peak hours. So and school was in session.

3:40:11Speaker 26

Yeah. On a Sunday.

3:40:13Speaker 10

Wasn't done on a Sunday. The day

3:40:18 – 3:40:59Speaker 2

I'm gonna pause here. We just heard, what, two hours of testimony. Never once did the the applicant or their counsel interrupt anyone. They respectfully listened to your comments. I'd ask you to provide them the same respect and allow them to present their because we stop the time every time she's interrupted. So it's only gonna we're not gonna allow this to take away from her right of rebuttal. So it just it just makes the evening go longer, but please just offer the respect for the for the applicant.

3:40:59 – 3:41:19Speaker 10

Thank you. As to the contention that this is a dangerous intersection, that is an opinion. The traffic study does not say it's a dangerous intersection. Your staff does not say it's a dangerous intersection. Again, these are substantiated opinions that have no factual basis.

3:41:19 – 3:41:52Speaker 10

They're anecdotal, sure, but their fears and they're catastrophizing, and there's nothing in the record to support what they're saying because they don't have an expert traffic engineer here. We have spoken oh, school school concurrency. That's in the record. The staff report says there's no issue with school concurrency. And if you look at the report in the year twenty twenty twenty nine, 2030, there's 217 extra elementary seats of capacity at Lewis Carroll.

3:41:52 – 3:42:25Speaker 10

So that is not an issue. Also, sewer is not an issue. There's a letter in your packet from Victoria Ben She's with Brevard County Utility Services said that she misspoke at PNC and wants to correct her statement that Sykes Creek plant does have capacity. I do wanna talk about Myra. MIRA's report, as I said, they denied it based on too much density in the area, no facts, no reasons to support that, and that additional information would be needed.

3:42:25 – 3:42:56Speaker 10

MIRA staff, on the other hand, thinks this is a great idea, is needed, and this is the right place for it. We have spoken to Brevard County Sheriff's Office, and it has advised that the issue with Lewis Carroll is that most students are driven and the parents arrive long before pickup time and park in the right of way Lewis Carroll. They've tried to enforce it. The people just ride around the block. The school district is adding a lane to the drop off lane for the next school year, and VCSO believes it will be beneficial.

3:42:57 – 3:43:22Speaker 10

We have offered to assist in any way, including adding an additional loop to the back of Lewis Carroll because there's three acres of non used land at the East Side of Lewis Carroll. This property has never been developed, which is an indication that the current allowed commercial uses or any ag uses is not appropriate. It's been vacant. There's a need for housing. The property must be rezoned so it can be utilized.

3:43:23 – 3:43:54Speaker 10

AU is not appropriate in a commercial mixed use area as your staff report has said, has more of a holding carry category for the property. This is not good for raising and grazing of animals. According to planning manager Gilliam, because of the BSP on the property, it wouldn't be able to use for residential. There are options for this property, the medical office hospital, which is a huge traffic generator. ACH is looking for a place for a freestanding ER in Central Brevard County.

3:43:54 – 3:44:22Speaker 10

Parrish has indicated an interest to compete with Health First. They've even looked at the Old Cape Canaveral Hospital. If this is denied, they have no option but to do something because the property can't be used for anything other than medical office and that's not going to happen. It hasn't happened since 1986. We do intend to appeal the county planning manager's opinion of Live Local Act because this is approved for a commercial use.

3:44:22 – 3:44:55Speaker 10

Does not say commercial zoning in the live local act. Mister Altman knows the exact intent of the live local act because he was in the state house when this was adopted. It is to stop this kind of failure to properly prove zoning for residential uses when this is appropriate for zoning for residential uses. There's been a lot made about the air commercial the area is residential. The area that's residential is here and here.

3:44:55 – 3:45:23Speaker 10

This property has four sides. That's one and a half sides. This area is commercial. There is no residential on Courtney as stated north of skyline to State Road 528. So single family residential does not belong in this site, and that again is shown by the future land use, not a potential future land use map, but a real land use map that says this is residential 15 and neighborhood commercial.

3:45:26 – 3:45:50Speaker 10

This is very much akin to the Snyder lawsuit. Mister Altman, I know you're very involved with that. You're on this commission when Snyder versus Brevard County went to the fifth district report fifth district court of appeal. That opinion from the district district court of appeal says in Florida, the greater value of land is its potential use value, not its intrinsic value. This is especially true of vacant land.

3:45:51 – 3:46:35Speaker 10

In a society which recognizes the right of a private citizen to own property, the citizen owner has the right to make use of the privately owned property as a citizen owner desires. Subject only to the limitations that private property cannot be used in a manner that encroaches upon the rights of other citizens. This is a self contained private use apartment complex that to go out of this property, if you're going north, you're going under Courtney. You're not going through their neighborhood. That makes absolutely no sense. And this was evaluated in the traffic study, which apparently no one read. So we would ask that you approve this rezoning. We have met the burden of proof. We have met the comp plan and specifically the private property rights element of the comp plan. Thank you.

3:46:37 – 3:46:51Speaker 2

Thank you. Okay. That was our last speaker. We will bring the request now to the Board. Are there any questions or comments from the Board?

3:46:56Speaker 2

Okay. Chair? Yes.

3:46:59 – 3:47:13Speaker 8

I would like to make a motion that there's gonna be no discussion. I'd like to make a motion that there 's gonna be no discussion.

3:47:15Speaker 2

I that motion dies for, like, a second.

3:47:21Speaker 8

I haven't even made it, chair. Oh,

3:47:24Speaker 7

I I think you said if there's Yes.

3:47:26Speaker 24

He said if there's Oh,

3:47:27Speaker 2

I thought you said for no discussion. I couldn't understand. I misunderstood you. Okay.

3:47:32Speaker 8

No. That's fine.

3:47:33Speaker 2

Okay. You would like to make a motion. Okay. You're welcome to make a motion.

3:47:38 – 3:47:49Speaker 8

Okay. I'd like to make a motion to deny the development because it's not compatible with the area, and I'd like to instruct staff to do findings of fact.

3:47:50Speaker 2

Okay. Is there is there a second to that motion?

3:48:02Speaker 5

I'll second it.

3:48:03 – 3:48:20Speaker 2

K. Second by mister Atkinson. Okay. There's a motion and a second for denial of the applicant and staff to state a finding of fact. K. I'd like to recognize staff to

3:48:25Speaker 25

They'll bring it back.

3:48:26 – 3:48:44Speaker 7

So do the board policies when the board indicates an intent to take a zoning action and directs the county attorney's office to prepare a finding of fact. We work with staff and do that, and we'll bring it back to the board at a future zoning meeting. But you make the decision on your Okay. Zoning action tonight with the findings of fact to come back at the next meeting.

3:48:45 – 3:48:59Speaker 2

So we will vote on the motion to denial. Staff will take the issue, have a finding effect that gives us time to review, and then vote into at a future meeting.

3:48:59Speaker 7

You you make your you take the zoning action tonight and then bring back the findings of fact for consideration of future meeting future meeting. Okay.

3:49:08 – 3:49:22Speaker 2

Great. Any questions? I do have a question. Is that meeting where we either accept or deny the finding of fact or I assume we have the ability to amend with is that a public meeting? Is that advertised?

3:49:22Speaker 7

Yes. It's not it's not advertised as as a public hearing like this one. It's at a public meeting of the board of county commissioners.

3:49:29Speaker 2

Please let our attorney It's Please let him.

3:49:32Speaker 7

You it's at a public meeting, but it's not a public hearing.

3:49:37Speaker 2

Right. Right. Like

3:49:37Speaker 7

But it's at a public meeting. People just wanted to It's usually on the consent agenda.

3:49:41Speaker 4

Okay. But the it's a it's a future commission meeting. Right? Yes. Yep. Right. And it's they're typically on consent.

3:49:52Speaker 2

But we can talk about it too.

3:49:53Speaker 4

I mean, we can remove it. Talk. Absolutely. 100%.

3:49:56Speaker 2

Just trying to make sure we get the procedure right.

3:49:58Speaker 4

I think we recently mister chair, sorry. I think we recently pulled a finding of fact off consent and discussed it and then passed it. Right. So that that's hap

3:50:09Speaker 10

Is that a development case?

3:50:11Speaker 4

I I think yeah. I think we just went through went through that.

3:50:13 – 3:50:25Speaker 2

Just Okay. Alright. Great. Thank you. Okay. Is there any debate or comment on the motion? Seeing no debate, I'd call the question. All in favor say aye.

3:50:25Speaker 5

Aye. Aye. No. For the

3:50:28Speaker 40

layman people in here, what is exactly going on? We're

3:50:33Speaker 7

to The public hearing is closed and the board's about

3:50:35Speaker 2

to What's happening? We were trying to get the attorney to explain that, and he was being interrupted by the office. So if you could allow him to speak without interrupting, please list this is a very good question.

3:50:45Speaker 7

Okay. Public hearings included, and the matters with the board now to decide. There's a motion on the floor, and now the board has discussion, and they call to vote on the motion. So they're about to vote on the motion.

3:50:54 – 3:51:30Speaker 2

So we're about to vote on the motion, which is to deny. We I I think we've concluded any discussion. There will be a finding of fact that the staff will bring back. The finding effect is under what basis did we, you know, deny the the request. Very important process in this this this hearing, and that will come back at a future meeting. That meeting will be advertised to be on the agenda. It's not gonna be like a public testimony type of meeting like you have here in the zoning, but it's something that we could discuss. Everybody got that? Okay. Good.

3:51:30Speaker 4

I what kind maybe I could clarify something. The the fine mister chair, if

3:51:36 – 3:51:49Speaker 4

The the finding of fact issue that would be before the board of county commissioners would not change what Right. What we're doing here tonight. So the motion to deny is on the table. That's what we're gonna vote for right now.

3:51:49 – 3:52:01Speaker 4

The Okay? And the finding of fact, that that's simply what's the legal reasoning in why we did that. That's what that is. Thank you. Okay? Alright. Alright. And we. Okay.

3:52:01 – 3:52:20Speaker 2

Mister Got it. I'm glad you glad you clarified. No. It doesn't change our denial, but it takes all the data and the information and our law and the into effect, and we formalize that. And exactly right. That's right. Okay. I'm glad you clarified that, commissioner.

3:52:20Speaker 4

And I'm not an attorney. I don't pretend

3:52:24 – 3:52:44Speaker 2

to be there any debate on the motion? Any further debate? K. There's a motion and a second to deny the application. All those in favor, aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes unanimously. And we'll do we have a date certain when the funding effect will come up?

3:52:46Speaker 7

I I cannot give

3:52:47Speaker 2

We don't know if

3:52:49 – 3:53:13Speaker 2

But it will be advertised to be a part of the agenda. So We'll give everyone time to clear out.

3:53:13Speaker 14

I was gonna go down and tell him to give him a little piece of

3:53:18Speaker 5

it's not my fault.

3:54:03 – 3:54:28Speaker 2

Okay. We'll ask everyone to we're gonna try to finish up here. We do have reports. Thank you. Thank you for being here and giving your input. Okay. We will move on to we have no unfinished business, I don't believe. We have no new business. We have do we have any public comment cards for the second? We do not. Board reports, county manager.

3:54:28Speaker 21

No report, mister chair.

3:54:30 – 3:54:49Speaker 2

Okay. County attorney. I have no report, mister chair. No report. District one, no report. No report from district two. Report district three.

3:54:49 – 3:55:08Speaker 5

Just very quickly, I wanted to thank pastors Amanda and Mark Miller from the Victory in Christ Jesus Church today for their day of prayer. It was fantastic. So I just wanted to make sure that they were acknowledged and that we all know today was a national day of prayer. Thank

3:55:10 – 3:55:29Speaker 2

you so much for that. Rob Felton of District 4. No report. And mister Axon, I'm glad you brought that up. I was able to attend the ceremony at The Cape for the National Day of Prayer. It was it was awesome. Mhmm. And I'm already looking forward to next year. I'll try to make both next year.

3:55:29Speaker 4

Did did they do it astronaut memoir? No.

3:55:33 – 3:55:55Speaker 2

They actually did it in the Neil Armstrong operation, the ONC Building. The operation is a checkout building, which was kinda cool because they did it right next to where they're building Orion, you know, right there in the ONC Building. So okay. I think that concludes our meeting. We will adjourn. Thank you.

3:55:57 – 3:56:26Speaker 1

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