Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

meeting to order and welcome everyone to the City of Breton Parks and Recreation Commission meeting. Today is Tuesday, March 25th. Hello. Thank you for being here. Um hopefully we get some other folks that'll join us. I'm going to monitor and see if they email me, but I'm not Sounds good. But I know we got enough for a quorum, so Yep. So, we'll get rocking and rolling. All right. First up on tonight's agenda, we have approval of our minutes from our last meeting, which was February 25th. Um, I hope everyone had a chance to look over those minutes and uh take anybody like to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes just read. There's Kim. Second. All right. Uh, all in favor of approving the minutes from February 25th, please say I. I. And that will pass unanimously. Oh, there's Mr. Riley. Thank you. Oh, sure thing. Good evening. Good evening. All right. And and and Commissioner Riley was was a yes on that as well, approving those minutes. Yes, absolutely. All right. Thank you. Just in time. Perfect. Okay. Uh next up, we have approval of tonight's agenda. Um, so if anyone has any questions or comments or wants to make a motion to approve tonight's agenda, I would move we approve the agenda as presented. All right, we have a motion to approve. A second. All right, we have a second. All right, all in favor of approving tonight's agenda, please say I. I. I. All right, and that will pass unanimously as well. All right. Uh, next up we have public comment. I don't see anyone here. And anyone in virtual world? No. No. Okay. Well, moving right along. Uh, next up, we're going into staff reports and updates. Uh, first up, uh, Brian, uh, maintenance and operations activities, please. Just real

briefly before, uh, if you notice, we move these to the top just so we can get them done and spend the rest of our time and not have to rush through them at the end. Cool. Not that we have a ton to say, but yeah. So, uh, from a parks maintenance and operation, two things that we're working on this month is, uh, we have a major water leak at a blueberry park. They're not. Oh, yeah. So, we're we're in progress. We're making headway on that, but that's pretty pretty good size job. So there was only one on and one off and that's where the uh the meter was at. So something pack you have to cut off the entire park. Oh man. To include the restroom to include restroom and everything else. And now we're putting in isolation. We're cutting down the options of where the leaker at, but giving us a lot more control in the future that if we do have future breaks, it doesn't mean total of the park. Well, hopefully we'll get that this week. Um, field ops are coming up this month. Um, that includes like verification uh fertilization of our athletic fields um fill in any low spots and overseeding those. So those will be in progress here uh in this next month. Uh this time of year busy with in the hiring process. I feel like I've been in the hiring process since I've been here.

Right now, we're looking to fill uh five summer health positions and one janitorial position. Uh so those have been advertised. We've been reviewing the applicants and setting up interviews. Uh so more to come on that, but uh things are progressing on that front. Uh fourth thing I have was uh an update from last month uh was full mountain golf course. The driving range pad uh has been completed. All right. Thanks. I asked him if quality testing meant driving, hitting driving range balls, hitting some range balls, but style stuff that needs to be applied over top. Do you have a date or a time schedule when the fountains downtown will be operational? Sure, I can do that. Um, we're in the process of cleaning up going on the water league of blueberry. Um, we're in the process of that right now and pulling everything out of winter time. So, everything's going to start trimming on here shortly. Cool. Thank you. All right. Any other questions? It be nice to post when you think you're going to be doing something so that we can all go down and watch the first time of the year and a right. Yeah.

A no. [Laughter] But the next two things on our staff reports are Ed and Barton hit that plate and I'm just going to go ahead and let quarterback that for right now and I'll question the um playground day for Saturday, April 19th. We're in the process of putting a flyer together. We've also put the word out to the Navy. So it sounds like we have the Navy Junior RTC study in another military from the Navy hospital. Thanks to Mick Hershey. I don't know if all of you know who he is that he's been a longtime volunteer at the cemetery and just has a good connection with the Navy. So, he's been great to work with on that. What time are we starting on? 9 a.m. 9 a.m. Rain or shine? The flyer because the flyer will have some um information as to what sort of tools you could bring if you have them. Yeah. Um what size wrench and so forth. Makes sense. Um, we're actually going to have the posts installed. Where's the post will be installed by the contractor that week ahead of time and then our crew will start um hanging some of the equipment on Friday so that we can get a jump start and kind of know where things are, kind of stage things for the for the volunteer day. So, yeah, super excited. So, the option most people thought this is the preferred option. Yeah, we made minor change to it. But we substitute one slides because we had four slides for a climber just to make space and footprint. Yeah. Um yeah, we're super excited. Um you know, there are lots of finishing touches that need to happen on that

park. The safety surfacing won't go in the same time as actually waiting to see where we fall on budget as to whether or not we can afford to have it blown in, which is saves a lot of time, but costs a lot more money. I think it's off the top of my head, I think it's like $9,000 more to blow it in versus or Yeah, like it's $8,000 more to blow in versus dump it. But then dumping it requires a lot of labor, a lot of wheelbarrows. So, um yeah, we're we're tight on that budget. So, we're we're being careful. Um but, uh yeah, other things that we have are to do are new signage, um plantings, um restroom, which I'll let uh Brian share kind of where we are with that. Um, but yeah, it's it's going to be done this summer, but we're not telling people yet when it's going to be done. We're not sure. There's lots of finishing touches to do. So, when will the flyers be available? Um, they should be this week. This week. Yeah. People, [Music] yeah, a lot of families. We'll definitely send it out to to all of you so you can put it out there. Yeah. And if you want copies, just respond back and we can have copies ready for you, too. Y community. Next Saturday is um cleanup, so it' be nice to have a flyer to to put down. Yeah. Is that something we post on the city's website as well? Okay. Yep. Yeah. And it'll be on social media, too. Yeah. And I'm sure at some point prior to it, the mayor will speak about it during his mayor comments at one of the council meetings. Yeah. And it sounds like the restroom's coming in this week. Are we still have anything to report on that yet? We're

hoping. Uh so we've had the general contractor on site today. Um, this plumber I left a message with CXT right before I left to come here and trying to see if it's on a truck to be delivered this week and what how we can coordinate hook up of the electrical and the plumbing and everything else. Um, we were hoping, like I said, hoping to have it done this week. U might be a ribbon cutting closer to the playground that it is the restroom, but we'll see. It's okay. Better to get it done right than rush it. Yeah. Is that a prefab now? It is a prefab. Okay. And it will get dropped from Lafayette by Crane. One of the options possibly. Yeah. Yeah. That's the more fun option. Walkway along the side. Yeah. It has a Yeah, it'll Yeah, it has a concrete foundation attached to it, but it'll sit on a um gravel pad. Yep. And and when you talk about even though it's prefabed, we have things that we're hooking up to it such as irrigation controllers and things like that, lights. So, we need that electrical to be tested and everything else before we can sign off on it. So, trying to get all those contractors into play, getting it on site, getting uh the contractors uh dialed in and getting an opening date. [Music] All right, Clay, you want to talk about Kids Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That Have That

Blade? Yeah, we've got a video to show so it'll show you better than I can explain kind of where what it looks like right now, but essentially in a nutshell, contractors working on the punch list items. Um, our crew has been out there removing some ivy and planting some native plants that was required as part of our permit for installing the shelter with where in its location within 200 feet of the lake. Um but yeah, you'll see in the in the video kind of where where it is right now. So um the contractor, one of the things that they're doing is also doing a um top soil and hydro seating, but that's not done yet. And then out of contract, we'll need to get a um irrigation design and installer. So that that project's going to be kind of have another phase after this phase with the irrigation um and the playground. and we're expecting our um grant that we applied for with Department of Commerce um we're expecting to know about that in June. So yeah, so we'll do another whole playground kind of u um meeting to get to get on that. All right. Is that something you can play for us now or It'll be You're talking about just having it as part of when we go when we go through the parks. Sounds good. No teasers. All right. All right. Director, you have the next two. Uh team Breton work planning and then the WRPA regional meeting. Okay. Uh team, just these are just a little updates on some things that we're doing. Uh so there's a group that's kind of formed um related to um you know a little bit of promotion to downtown but also being a support for the um the efforts with uh us being a fan zone for the World Cup. Uh so I attended a meeting a couple weeks ago. Um good

group of mixed people. Um lot of ideas but no direction yet. uh found out from the mayor today that he has heard that he has the ability to receive the the uh playbook now to to what a fan zone is. He just has to sign for it um because it's a copyrighted document that they created. But we're at least getting somewhere cuz otherwise everybody's been okay, what do we do or we're we're already too late. We should be doing things. And so we'll get that playbook and uh um Katie Keter from um public works is going to be our kind of point of contact for the city as far as the event is concerned and she's also the one that is overseeing a project manager for Quincy Square right now. Um so we're just going to kind of when Quincy Square is done, she'll put a lot of time her time into that um project as well. So, um she'll take the lead as far as the city's concerned. Um you know, we have some initial thoughts of where we what we want to do. Uh and we kind of think the main thing that we need to focus on is the the match days in Seattle and creating an environment for locals to be able to gather together to watch the games if they're not going to be at the game. And so looking at the boardwalk area as kind of that location, but also having some other activities and things at Quincy Square and other areas downtown. So there'll be six different dates uh that will be essentially required to have activities going on as a fan zone and those are all the six dates of games in Seattle. Um one of them is June 19th which is when the US men's national team is playing in Seattle. Uh so we'll at least get one of their games which is great. Uh but then there'll be five other matches between

um mid June and uh mid July time frame. All weekday games month longer than that's it is. Yes. Yeah. 41 days is the full is the full event. So yeah. So I'm uh mayor's asked me to sit in on some of those or sit on those meetings to just kind of help be there as a representative. So I saw they were hoping to have uh two big fairies restored by then as well. Yeah, I was. Yeah. So the governor has agreed to restore the fairies starting this summer. Um yeah, but I think Kitap Transit and the county are also looking at trying to do some increased services as well. Is the World Cup this summer? Next summer. 26. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're looking to restore the ferry service this summer. However that ends up happening, starting magically staffing varies. So that's it on that. Um, as far as the WRPA regional meeting, um, so this is some, so Washington Recreation and Park Association is a membership organization, uh, for us as professionals, uh, in the state to just kind of help support, provide networking, training, uh, different activities. I've been involved with state agencies in in Oregon and Idaho for a long time. Um, u, the former director was a member, but I don't know if staff has always been members. So, uh, we've I've signed up eight of our staff to be members and five four four of us. Four of us. I was like trying to remember how many. So, we had a regional meeting and for some reason we're considered the southwest region of Washington. Okay. So, so anybody from the pen upper

part of the peninsula down to Vancouver, um, Washington, uh, we all met in Olympia last month and four of us went to the meeting. Uh, it was a great meeting. Um, great way, great opportunity for us to network. Um, and I have a little video that Colette made that I wanted to show you that I thought was not on this one, but was it just a one day thing that you guys It was a like a half day kind of. Yeah. Yeah. these other jurisdictions funding was it a member a person that works in Olympia was talking about closing restrooms and yeah Olympia's seen some major um changes happening um with limited support. So, I think, you know, for for communities like ours that, you know, we feel like we struggle and we we need more resources. Everybody needs more resources. You know, we're not always the top of the food chain ever um in a in government structure. Um but at the same time, let's see, we're I need to share it first. So, let me see if I can do that. So when will the mentality parks being on the bottom of the whole pyramid, you know, the funding and everything, when will that change? How can we get it to change? I mean, people love the park. So yeah, so a way to do that that is kind of starting to be a trend in the state and when I first got involved with the administrators network of WRPA is um city parks and

wreck departments are looking at creating rec park parks and wreck districts. And so they would essentially take the funding they receive from um general fund um property taxes and then create their own um organization governmental organization with its own structure and then yeah so then you're Yeah. So a lot there's a fair amount of uh communities that are moving towards that direction. Ken, can you see the video? Okay, it's paused. Yeah. Okay. So, this is just a quick little video that we shot that just kind of shows you some of the interaction that we did and the group. I thought it was a really good turnout. Oh, this is the only one I didn't download. Of course, feed you guys. Um, there were some snacks. It was more of like a bring your own lunch. Yeah, they encourage you to bring your own lunch, but it was Yeah, it was like a twohour session. Yeah. M anything from maintenance challenges to programming to administration. Yeah. So there were different so we were sitting at tables and so there were topics that we would talk about amongst ourselves and introduce each other obvious ourselves but then there was also kind of group think and then putting them up on boards

and I haven't seen that they've sent them out yet um but they plan to send it out so then we can get all the information collected so just a good good resource it comes as part of our membership with WRPA having these types of opportunities to attend. So, yeah. Anybody got any questions or comments on it? Oh, we got like a general question. [Music] I'm not sure what that's referring to. We got somebody on. Yeah. for the dues. Is that something uh do you guys have to pay that you you pay that out of pocket or is the city paying those for you? It comes it comes out of our budget. Okay. Thanks. I'll have to watch that. Great. All right. Thanks for sharing that. Yeah. So, it's it's out of our budget. Yeah. We don't we have a a small budget for travel training type things. Um, yeah. All right, moving. We got We're going into new business now. And, uh, first up is the pros plan survey update director. All right. Uh, related to pros plan, we are [Music] um, we have close to 700. So, we need to do we're going to be doing another push here. Okay. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. So, we can we can tell like when the school district pushed it for us, we had a huge response, which is great. Uh when we've had ads because we have we've been working with it to do

regular ads uh that are getting promoted. So, um if you follow us on social media, you'll see that Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Yeah. And we've had our parks crew as they've gone out to parks, they have laminated ones that they're posting, too. So, this is a video that I created last week with BCAT. So, it's going to start airing tonight. [Laughter] Yeah. whether they like it or not. Uh so this is a a quick little video I did last week with BCAT. So it'll be on social media city's website and then like I said starts on BCAT tonight and there's no sound. Oh, I know. Yeah. And I got to use a teleprompter which was so cool. Never used one before. Did you go to like the studio guy? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the teleprompter Dave I think Dave messed with my settings uh at the last meeting today that I showed it at. Shoot cuz I Yeah, we'll send Yeah, we'll send you the link. We can I can just talk about it. Yes. Oh, yeah. There's great It's great music. But you'll be able to see what it looks like. I mean, if I actually memorized my lines, I could probably say them, but so the cool I don't know if you've ever had a teleprompter, but they're so high-tech now that the camera's behind the words. So, it's not like you're even looking here to read it and the camera's above below it. It's literally right behind. Um, yeah. Know, there's some

cool music that they've got to it. So, promoting send people to the website. Right. We've simpl simplified the address so it's easier to get to. Come to these meetings. I say lots of great things about you, but can't hear it. We don't get Yeah. Share the information. I always share it on my page, too. exciting. Yeah. And then the QR code at the end for you. So, yeah. No, that was fun. And obviously, I mean, it's got to watch again. That's ridiculous. Oh, that's the next video. That's really weird. Oh, yeah. We don't want to You don't want to hear Garrett. Whoops. How'd you get hooked up with Big Cat on that? Did you reach out to them to put that together? Um, actually, um, Colette and I went to their open house that they had, I don't know, a month ago, and just kind of got talking to them. We had talked about wanting to get better connected with BCAT, and so got talking to Colleen and Great. then uh because they do all the video stuff for the city. But yeah, do they have do they have Yeah, I haven't met Tony because it was the general name is John and then he retired Charlene, my

mother. Oh god. like this. Yeah, I think that the gentleman's name was John that replaced her, but then I feel like he's retired and now Oh, I'm sorry. What? Colleen. Colleen. Yeah. Okay, cool. I just think I think that's great. I think it's a great avenue for us to get it out there and so is it just going to kind of be on loop? They're just going to just like air it in between programs. You know what it looks like? Correct. Yeah. Yeah. And it was I don't know about a minute and a half or so. Uh but it'll yeah it'll be on their social media. Our social media um visuals are always good. I'm sure they do. Yeah. Yeah. They can I'm sure they can do their own analytics. They're Yeah. And even at that it's through they they they their platform is on YouTube and so YouTube would track that too. Yeah. All right. Any questions have any questions or comments on that? All right. Thanks for the update, director. Yeah. Fun stuff. Yeah. Okay. And into our big one of the night. Uh this is our clos pros plan review uh for neighborhood and pocket parks. Thank you. Starting to get dark. Thank you. Thanks. I needed that. All right. So, what I've done this time that I didn't do last time is I went ahead and I marked on mine the difference. Um, so then I can at least point those out as we walk through. We have a lot to get through. Yeah. Um, and we didn't even get to all of the sites this last month. Uh, we're four short, so we'll carry those over till

next month. Um, but we still have 15 sites that we need to talk about. So, we'll just we'll just get rolling and uh if we have questions or someone needs a break, uh, please take one. But I hope I don't want to try to I try don't want to keep you here all night either. I'm respectful. Appreciate you sending this stuff out for agree. It is. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll start with Blueberry Park. Cool. Hopefully the sound will work. It's great. There's water running. Let me Okay, let me let me try something because these all should be downloaded. So, I intentionally downloaded them so then they wouldn't beuffer like buffering. I even cleaned up my desktop so it didn't look so messy. Shoot. I got to share it first. Sorry. Let's forget that step. That should open back up. Share. Okay.

We picked a good day. It was a work day for the master gardeners, too. That's proper. Okay. So, it is here. And Ken, would it be helpful if we pulled up the comparisons for you to see on the screen? If it's not an inconvenience, absolutely. But do whatever is easiest. Yeah. Okay. Just want to make sure it was helpful. Thank you. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. So, looking at Blueberry Park, um some of the previous items that we looked at addressing my glass under the we didn't have any uh real changes or we had changes to the inventory. So, we started to put in a number of parking areas. I like that. Years of playgrounds, a number of picnic tables, benches, those types of things as as our inventory so we can kind of keep track of those. Uh, community garden plots, 66 of those. Um, lots of different plots there. Um, nothing was removed. We just added to um, you know, those those identifiers. Uh, management concerns. Uh there were some that we talked quite a bit about when we were going through this park. Um planting bed maintenance. Um we've removed that uh because that is something the master gardener works kind of in conjunction with our staff that do the our staff manages the area along the roadway. And then uh really all the internal stuff the the master gardeners have taken on. Same thing with the blueberry uh plant maintenance. they've taken that on as well. That's over by the playground. Um, so that is something that's changed since six years ago. Um, six years ago too, it it was noted that the U perimeter walking path was underutilized. Um, and from what we've all seen and in talking with park staff, it seems like it gets used quite a bit now. And maybe that was a a COVID trend uh that didn't look like it was getting utilized a whole lot. And so we have uh

recommended to remove that as it being an underutilized uh piece and something that is of value to that park. Um let's see. One thing that I noticed on this park as opposed to um other parks that are in the playground program, I feel like Blueberry is a playground program park. Is it not? Am I Am I wrong on that? I'm pretty sure it is cuz I think that I think Yeah, cuz I think AJ said that we've had a lunch we have the lunch program there. We mentioned we mentioned it like I was um yeah where it wasn't. Okay, cool. And that Yeah, that's not going to make or break me on that. And that's okay. That was just something I picked up on. Yeah. No, that's a good good question. Um let's see. Yeah. And then improvement recommendations. Um improve drainage in wetland areas. That was kind of a something we were trying to figure out really. Do we have a whole lot of control? We didn't feel like we had a whole lot of control to be able to do much improvement there. And so one of our recommendations was removing that um as a improvement recommendation because it it is what it is. and we've got a pathway that's uh maintained between the school and then obviously in high water events then uh the pathway will get flooded. Uh but again that's just something that is the nature of of where the trail runs. Um and we eliminated involving the garden club volunteers to maintain the blueberries because uh that's taken care of now. Um, under the management concerns, we did add vandalism. That's probably going to be a common theme at most of the parks. That will make sure it's there. Um, and then long-term

maintenance of the uh por concrete sidewalks. Uh, that's something. So, that's the the sidewalks that are towards the front uh where the garden um the the planting bed area is. Mhm. Um, it's a permeable surface, but our concern is is that with with the growth of moss on it, uh, we can't really take a pressure washer to it because then it will cause all the crumble and the material to, okay, to degrade. So, we've got to kind of figure out a good way to manage that. Um, so then it doesn't get overrun with moss. Um so that's something that um we do, you know, want to consider uh the maintenance of that moving forward and how to address it. Uh let's see. The reason why all the surfaces are impervious on this project is because we have ecology money to fund it. But there's not really an environmental benefit to having the pathways beous because all it's not a fluid generating surface. You don't any water that falls on the pathway. So it that making it impervious you know I think that the recommendation when it comes to impervious Yeah. And this the base, Brian, what did you call it? The material that was used to construct the walking path, gravel, but the base of it, as you could I don't know if you could tell, the circular pieces. Yeah, it was starting to get exposed. And there's areas of the pathway that um are narrowing up that um

we just need to kind of widen back up. But as the grass is kind of taken up, wetland step back is required to be when it comes to but yeah that gravel is gravel moves and you know replenish it and compact it and it narrow well and with that stuff too it's susceptible to the UV Okay. And it gets real brittle and then we'll start chipping and breaking mess everywhere. Ultimately, we're going to need to go in there and add some rock and bring in plate compactor compact it up. [Music] All right. Any other comments for Well, just real quick. I mean, in concept, I like the idea of a security cameras around, but in practicality, how would that work? How would you execute that? Um, we would there's two areas that we could attach it to, either to the restroom or to the shed um that they have for the the patches. And that's something that um I've been talking with our IT about in finance about is is looking into surveillance or security cameras within the park system. Um, we've had a number of issues that luckily some we've resolved, some we haven't because we um, I just think I do think we're I hate the fact that I don't want people to be concerned to come into our parks and think that they're constantly being monitored. Uh, but really it's more for security of our own automatically for a lot of Yeah. A

lot of them anymore are all um cloud-based. Yeah. Yeah. So, they used to even five years ago, they would they would record over every 24 or 48 hours. Now, it's all cloud-based and most of them hold information up to a month at a time. Yep. So, it's something you wouldn't monitor unless it was an issue, then you go back. Correct. Yeah. Yep. And that's usually it. Yeah. And usually we'll know, okay, when was the last time someone was there versus and then um the the system I had before, you could literally just move your cursor along until you saw motion and then you could p you could pinpoint or it actually show it shows you on a timeline when motion occurred. Yeah. Red light came through somebody reviewing everything. Right. Yeah. Or having to go to the site and sitting and just sitting and watching the video. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. No, technology's come a long way. So, yeah. All right. East Park. Lots of color. Yeah. You're going to notice each month how much better are. Yeah. But this is going to be dramatic. Yeah, that apartment complex.

Yep. This is the area that has been talked about for either pump track. Yeah. space. No. Yeah. And even less now with that. What is some little water thing that they built? The pump station. Thank you. And there is a restroom in there. Oh, I did not know that. You just have to open the right door. Oh, is that a It is. Yeah, there's So, that's something that um needs to get approved and and advertised is um the door is um locked or has been locked in the winter. Uh but there's no signage on it. And so when Brian and I went up to it, I used my to open it cuz I wanted to see what the restroom looked like. Well, I opened the wrong door and I set an alarm off and I couldn't turn the alarm off. Um, yeah. So then I'm like, Brian, do something about it. [Laughter] Let's see. Yeah, it's the far left one. Yeah, there are a lot at that site. Trying to figure Oh, there we go. That way, but maybe. Okay. Is there a sign for it saying East Park? I think so. I cannot picture a sign up there. Um there is a sign. Yeah, there's a sign for the

um and maybe it just says YMCA and then it also says the ice rink, but I don't I don't Does it say East Park on? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I think it does say Trying to get this Okay. So, I didn't take any notes on the upper portion. So, on the bottom, yes, we added six. Oh, you you updated that to how many stalls? [Laughter] Questionable numbers. Yeah, I was I told Colette privately, it's like there's no way there's 66 parking stalls that like that was too many. Yeah. I walk up there all my life. This is what it's like. Yeah. So, we've got two picnic tables there, four benches, uh two separate restrooms. So, there's the new restroom, and then there's the restroom that's up above. Um and then we also are adding bike racks if we have them. Um improvement recommendations. Um we added to paint over the vulgar language. Uh try to have a standard within 24 to 48 hours uh if weather allows. Um, some of it it's tough with paint and skate parks and that surface cuz depending on the paint, it can create too slick Mhm. of a surface. Um, and removal can damage the concrete as well. Um, so at least the vulgar language is kind of what we'll try to focus on uh at

that site. Um, replacing asphalt pathways with concrete. Uh, so you kind of saw the asphalt pathways. It kind of came across um just down the hill from the skate park. And then removing invasive um species and reveate uh the slopes. Yeah. The playground at some point probably could use improvement. Um that one's been there for a while. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what year that playground is put in? By its vintage, I'd say like 90s, mid9s. Yeah. Any comments on the East Park? I guess seems like there should be some high in those. And I don't know what that would be. I mean, the Y is busy all the time, and I know the skate rink is definitely busy for facility, and I don't know how they work together, but it seems like they're all recreation, you know, um, and I don't know how what I'm talking about. So, well, there may be some long-term opportunities there. Yeah. um that that we'll be looking at for collaboration. I think one of the things that's like relevant to me in this is that I mean I know it's carried down from up above where it talks about residential development surrounding East Park has increased usage of the park and its adjacent recreation facilities. I think that's very relevant to to the site. The recreational district is kind of there's there's a lot of homes up

there now. Oh yeah. I mean, when they tore all that East Park, East Park's been there for a very, very, very, very, very long time. And then, you know, it was all Navy housing in there and then they tore it all out. The park was still there. YMCA was still there. It wasn't as used as it was. Well, here comes in all this new housing. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of people up there now. Sure. Yeah. work there and look looking at the green space area that's now used for dogs or you see deer there the below the ice rink. Uh part of my concern too is as the one apartment complex is getting developed, there's that many more people looking for open green space. M everything down below is going to be getting developed soon and there's a lot of housing that's going to be going in down there. The bowling alley location alone I think was 180 units or close to that um at that location and and to me to I don't want to overprogram all of our spaces and if we still have some just green space area for people to be at it would just be nice to preserve that for now. Well, they also did resing hospital, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Who cares about that one?

Excuse me. This is just after a windstorm. I like got so much potential. Yes, I do like how you ended that one. I was watching the view. So, I just kind of want to roll through a couple of spots here just because this is a large a good size area. Um, so this is obviously one um I'm still directionally challenged here. Um, I can't looking north. Yeah. So, this is where one spot one spot the road is blocked off and this is looking

the opposite way. And you can see the center markers. They're more apparent further down. But if someone was to turn down the road and gosh, we were there 45 minutes and there was at least six or seven cars that we just watched go all the way down and then come back and they didn't they didn't stop anywhere, but maybe we deterred them from doing something. I don't know. Uh, one of the things we talked about too was everything north of this intersection. Do we eliminate that and then reforce that? Um then push everybody and create more parking here. Um and yeah, make this more part of the park cuz that's like a driveway to the left, isn't it? Is it? Yes. Here's someone right here. Well, this is this is a rear access to their home. They have a driveway to the h on the front of the house. So, that's something we need to look back and figure out is um is there something that's the city's gotten writing? It has been this last year. Uh we've talked about that and and just general access. So, there's access that we have concerns with potentially night cars going in. Sure. And I don't know if we have a picture of the front. So, I mean, these are all e typically either um people that are homeless or um Yeah, that's our natural. But yeah, do we do we find figure out a way to secure the entrance to the park in the evening and start locking locking the park up at night? Um

It is. Yeah. Yeah. And then even identifying what to do with this building. Um there are some assessments. Right. Yes. So it's it's this the studio. This building is the Yeah, at least it's leased out to Yeah. to the SC use it. Wow. They use it. It has a doctor permit. Yeah. Yeah. And and I'm not sure if we can verify when the last time staff has been inside the building. Um, we're assuming we have keys to access it. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's something that something that obviously needs to get identified or Yeah. Oh, is he the one that Okay. Okay. Yeah. We probably don't. Yeah. Yeah. So, obviously over time it's it's It's been claimed. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Like the roof caved in. I don't know um what their lease is. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah. They submitted a claim insurance. Mhm. Okay. So, um, as far as items, and I thought I would was smart and crossed off things, but now that I crossed them off, I can't read what they say. Um, oh, renovate, um, or remove tennis courts. Um, so there's some things that were listed in the previous that uh we really tried to just kind of consolidate because the more we sat at this site and talked about it, listing individual things that we think need to be done, we just kind of decided, you know what, this just needs to be master planned. And then you know whether we think a pickle ball court should go there, a tennis court or a splash pad or something um in that space um we need to go through a separate process than just trying to identify small things. So that's really what the summary uh ends up stating is um is again just sum kind of summarizing that this this park has some needs, a lot of needs. Um and I um I'm going to be meeting up there with some of the department directors. So, I'll go up there with public works and then the fire department to kind of talk about scenarios like what if, you know, what if we reduced the roadway? Um, what would it look like? Um, I know the road has a name. Um, it's the Carol Arens Parkway. Um, which can be a

little deceiving too cuz Parkway to me is like a highway. Yeah. uh where where in where I was at in Oregon, the the park Salem Parkway was a way to get around the downtown part of Salem, but you could drive 50 miles an hour. Um but this is obviously in in honor of Carol. Um but yeah, how do we still continue to recognize her but not is a interior. It's not. It is. Yeah. From there. Oh, right. Okay. Because I just really it just it able to drive through the park like that. I mean, it's caused so many issues, the dumping um and then a gate at the front. So the question is does does the does the homeowner that has that you know access from the from the park that would close off their access essentially. So then you got to get legal. Yeah. Yeah. You know this been on the agenda here before. Yeah. So, it' be good to get that. Yeah. The Carol Erands Parkway thing kind of got tangled over the submission at one point. They're they're I don't have Does people brief you on this or um No, no. I was just They wanted the park named after her. They were going to donate. I don't remember what kind of money it was, but they were going to make a significant donation to the parks and ended up not happening. But we renamed the road and then they took that and then they were weren't happy with that. Like we're not

that. Well, that house that's there was Carol's house. Yeah. Yeah. That's where she lived. So she was counsel. Yeah. Remember, but I don't that was her house and the driveway in the front is pretty steep. So I think she really owned that driveway access to get to her house. So nothing was really done. When you turn in there and you keep going all the way to the very end, it's like a culde-sac, right? You can't It doesn't It doesn't go through. It's one way in, one way out, right? But we want to make sure firewood involves, right? Is there a need for having access? Yeah, there's a hydrant right at that intersection um where the the back entrance to that that property is. So, is that I'm assuming it's active since it's still there. And they came right on. It's been on here. Yeah. I guess this end up being Yeah. What happened to the idea with marking a terrace and things? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thank you. the map that I walked through previous commissioner and and you have put out a really good map system. So, I just needed I was trying to get some input from the scout hall, you know, to get the kids in there. Maybe they could help name some trails, but then it all kind of went by the way. That's kind of a

nice I I that's a good I agree. Yeah, for sure. Mhm. Because the markers allowed in an emergency somebody to call in where they were at stuff and or just me trying to tell anyone when I call in or email in about an issue. It's like I'm trying to pinpoint it and I'm trying to go ping should I ping it or you know because we need a good good way to that might be a small thing that we continue to try. One thing that did that is a good thank you Jeff later. Yeah. Yeah. Did that map get sent? I remember they still have the maps in your files that that Yeah. Okay. I'd have to look for mine, too. But I think um is selling some ways right about there, right? Do it. I I have a group of kids or young people that I know that would love to be involved. They're outdoorsy in that and they would love to, you know, incorporate some like some native names. You know, we've got mad drrome trees in there, some nice ridge. So, you know, it'll be fun. Let the community get involved with that. I think that perfect. I think I think that's the really the thing to bring people in is to get them. Yeah. And then we get the and if they're interested, you know, in the corks, you know, do we keep them or not, you know, and there's a lot of history involved with park and things with the placements and stuff. So that's

a and a good thing to try to remember. I guess I did have that bullet in there. Oh, really? So we put so in lie of names number number that would be um at trail intersections and a way finding sign at the bulletin part that anyone that can take a picture with their phone and then go into the forest with knowing the numbers where you know where things are. It just makes it so much easier. There's not is there a net up at the tennis court? There is. Okay. Yeah, it's in better condition than anything else there though. I am um on the first at is it at 10 I'm meeting Carlos and with um the county noxious weed um Jarvis second okay yeah I knew I had on one of those days anyway we're meeting to discuss the notweed huge issue in there so I said please give me some guidance on how to so there we're going to meet All right. All right. Moving on. Park that needs some love. Some TLC. So, the next one Yeah. Next one on your list is one we haven't been to, Haden, but Okay. You're all very familiar with what's going on there. Yep. Definitely. So, we'll move on to Kitap Lake and you can finally see your video. Wow. Wow.

That's cool. Yes. It's such an upgrade. So, who was the one that removed all the lily pads that were on near the shore? Is it almost 4,000 fish? Is that what it was? Wow. 3,800,8,000. Yeah. Wow. Great pathway system up to the top. And that's all ADA compliant stuff too, right? Yeah. How cool. is cool right there. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, this will be where the playgrounds go. And this will just be an open turf area in the middle. Love these videos. It's a lot of Colette like running around and Brian and I just these days. Yeah, these days we get like a thousand steps in and Colette's like over 10. This was a cool project. We had to take up some trees, too. That was before that was up by the playground. So, this is the pathway to the This is like the next day. It must have been like these. Yeah, these were all there. Yeah. So, we just said let's let's just keep it incorporate them and then create a game. Yeah. We can only work that fast.

So, this is one of our the drainage. Drainage. Yeah. It's looking good, though. Wow. Yeah. How much uh responsibility do we have on that lake for the water park? We as in parks as a city I guess. A great question. The whole lake is not inside. Is it in the city limits? I don't think it is. Sheriff shooting. I saw one of your concerns was enforcement of watercraft regulations. I think about can machine as well. The feds got it for machine. Okay. Um, so we're going to kind of ignore the pre-rennovation management issues. Um, and then additional improvements. Um, one thing we talked about um that's on the 2021 or the 2020 plan is consider loop trail around Kitap Lake. We don't really think that that's feasible. um it'd be great to have one, but as far as a kind of goal for that site, I don't think it's reasonable at this point. So, we've recommended to remove that. Um and then same with the consider overflow parking across the street. Uh the city owns a small piece of property there. Um, again, that's I think we've

got higher priorities than to try to address putting in an overflow parking there. Uh, it's something we can always consider if it comes up, but, uh, we're recommending removing that. Um, for management concerns, um, we added maintenance access to the upland area, so there's really not a great route. Um there's a upper parking area, a couple stalls, uh that we're thinking that we can create some sort of access for a mower to come in now that we'll have turf in there. Um but that's just something we wanted to note as a something that's a concern that we need to keep in mind um when um future planning and finishing up that site. Um, just parking um access for equipment. It could even be access. Yeah. Right. So, you could park up above. Yep. Yeah. I can't remember if it's Yeah, I think it's just one. Yeah. And then we added um remove and replace the bulkhead. So, that wasn't identified in this overall project, but is something that does need to get identified. Um, that's down by the boat launch area. [Music] Can't picture that. Is that like where the There was like a little swimming area right there at one point. Okay.

mainly smoke. Okay. So, yeah, do that later. Okay. It's nothing you don't really see unless you're on All right. Yeah. Okay. It's great. Asked Colette to go out into the water, but to take pictures, but she said no. You can probably You can see it from the pier. The Yeah. When are we hoping to do like a ribbon cutting ceremony out there? Not till next spring. Okay. Yeah. For the playground once everything's done. Yeah. Yeah. We're hoping to get it reopened obviously sooner than later. our our holdup is to get these punch list items done. Sure. So, one of those thing one of those is I almost paused it but wanted to just watch the video through on the the grates on the um on the fishing pier. Um the pad the the direction of the grates are incorrect. Um so they need to basically be flopped the other way. Um because you could get in a wheelchair wheel stuck in between the direction that the grates are running. So there's a larger gap the way it's facing now as opposed to that being sideways. Yeah. As opposed to the parallel. Yeah. Yeah. Is the um is the vehicular gate still functional up there? Like is that parket locked up still? Like when when the contractor's done, they they lock it up. Okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah. And like right now, um any days that there's no activity or when they're not there or not there, it's locked up. Y

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's nice hidden especially up at that kind of culde-sac area. Anything else on Kitap? So want that roof and stuff in place. So that takes hold. So but as we get into summer, people are going to want to be at the lake. Oh yeah. So yeah, we're trying to figure out what that balance look like. Is there is there a boat watch on the other side of the lake? I feel like the county has a boat watch. It's a steak. Okay. Okay. But it's Yeah, I was just thinking it's not. Yes, it is. Yes. Okay. All right. All right. Quanas. tennis court there. Oh, really? Yeah. Below here. Yeah. That little rain garden is Yeah. like really I think there's two courts there. Yeah. Oh, it is. Okay. Awesome. Yeah. I didn't know that.

This have always kind of been an issue. It's a bummer. I love that fence about like Colette hid in the bushes until kids were there and then she [Laughter] Just kidding. Get her in trouble. That's what she gets for taking the camera. Okay, so on Kowanas, um we do have a 2024 date for the playground. um six picnic tables, eight benches. [Music] Um changes that we have noted, uh improvement recommendations, obviously replacing the perimeter fencing. Um I can't remember if you can see it as well in that, but there's one section where it's really just leaning over. Um but it's it's deteriorating. And I haven't talked to you yet, but the source um I've been in contact with the previous source through the Quantis Club. Uh yeah, when I went and um presented to them a couple weeks ago. So, I've got an update for you on that. Um possible. So, we'll see. Uh but yeah, replacing that exterior fencing. Um and then um we have some uh structures of bench or tables that are that are fine. Uh but the wood tops are starting to um deteriorate and rot. And so replacing the tops of those picnic tables uh would be needed. We wouldn't have to replace the structures, just the tops of them. And then was there anything else? Say artificial.

Oh no, I missed that. That was in there before, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So, as you can see, it wears out. Um, it's really great if you can turf the sixyard box, which is that inner box. Um, for those gold mouths, cuz that just gets worn. Um, very worn and it's a lot less expensive if you're just doing the small small pieces of it. So, that's something that would be nice to get done. Yes. Little little leftover turf. Yes. Standard fence design. Yes. The reason the split rails if you recall it it had never been it had never been really developed. It was like a schoolyard with only fencing out. It kind of felt like a prison vibe. It was just Yeah. So the the goal was really to like warm it up and feel like it made it worth it. And so that's why we found this ch this uh wood rail fencing through um kitak lumber. It was a um a kind of a new type of wood rail fence that was treated in an environmentally friendly way. So yeah, making less durable. We didn't have more natural. So, but typically um our new parks we've been doing like final footage this last but it looks better than the galvanized. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Either in a green or black. Yeah. I mean that has green. So I think I think a green vent fence would look good here too. I think we just the reaction was against chaining fencing after kind of what what you for so long. Have we got any feedback from the school like on since the new playground's been

installed? Are they I mean they love it. Loving that. Yeah. What? Yeah. I spoke to them when we um shut down the slide um just to just so they were aware and they were actually very happy. they'd rather have not have their kids up there. Um, but no, I think they obviously are enjoying being able to utilize that space. Is there any um the agreement like that they have with the city for, you know, utilizing that park? Is is it time bound at all? Do you know that? I don't know that agreement. That's fine. Real closely. Just wonder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know they contributed. They contributed to the home. There was someone yeah member of the church did and I think there was a time limit on the agreement but I don't remember how my guess is inspired. Yeah. Yeah. But the Kanis donate to it as well, right? The Kanis. Yeah. The Quantis Club played a huge role in the new playground and donating to the play and they have in the past um like hosted like parties there. I don't know if they're still doing that but yeah. Cool. All right. Anything else on Kuanas? Moving to Manette. All right. [Music]

Did we do brick paper? Did we do brick sale that uh had No. No. Okay. I'm probably not cons. [Music] They were great for kind of a smooth. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. Did you pick out all the music on these clothes or I love it. I like it. Summer lunch drop off places are part very well attended. I would have gotten like a shot of the parking lot at the senior center. Okay. So, form and net arc. I really crossed something out on the inventory, but I don't know what it is. The last one. Brick papers. Brick papavers. We decided to note that as an inventory item. Um, are those ones you Oh, no. It is. I don't know why I did that. I think I

looked at that and I was trying to correspond down there. Yeah, that could donate to him. Now I remember why I scratched it off because I meant to not scratch it off cuz I saw it down there. It's the timing of I can't remember how much we charge per brick and we have to wait to get a group of bricks to make it worth the file and a purpose for it. Yeah. I mean the purpose could be fundraising for the you know the right you have a sign that can we don't advertise it. No. So, as far as inventory, uh we noted um six tables and then six benches and then we added the bike rack to it. Uh management concerns, um noise of pickle ball, uh we've received a couple complaints about that and uh there are some ways to address that. um the windcreens or there's other options up that we could probably come up with against um just that retaining wall is I think a part of the big issue there too just reverberates off of that um ve vegetation management on the hillside. So that's kind of the the area um coming off of the senior center parking lot down to the lower field. Um so right now we have some temporary fencing there cuz um people have kind of cut through instead of going along the pathway. So replanting um and

establishing some some plants there that um you don't want to walk through for lack of a better way of saying prickly plants or Yeah. ordinary. Yeah. Uh improvement recommendations. Um still have on there the replace chain link fence, but everything below that's new. Uh consider windscreen fabric as I as I mentioned uh to try to help reduce some of the noise. Um designated court hours um to match um like a noise ordinance or the park hours. So maybe limit uh make sure people are aware that there's a limit to when they can be there. So there's no it's not louder in the evening. There's no lights on the courts. There is not there's no Yeah. No lights. So maybe like even like late like during the summer maybe we stop early or don't allow it later in the evening. Um install park roll signage. That's something that we noted that we didn't see there. And considering additional lighting is that for like pathway type lighting, do you remember? or shelter. It was It was lighting. Come off the pole. Come off of the pole to to light to the the back. Okay. Yeah. You might put the lights on. The concern was like making sure people can safely get to their, you know, walk up those steps, you know. I don't know if there's enough light. Are the are the soccer field lights um can they are they turned like off and on like through the same program that Scott uses out at like Pendergas? Yeah, that's cool. Cool. Avenue. Awesome.

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I do not know who did that. Yeah, on the lower field. Yeah, it was cool. Yes. So, speaking on the lights, speaking on the lights, you can you can control them through an app now. Yeah. Neat. Yeah. Too easy. I um Hey, Commissioner Riley, I had a question for you. Are are you still involved with Catalyst? I am. Had a board meeting this morning. I I mean I remember a while back uh I mean this it's probably a couple honestly it's probably a couple years ago now Ken they had approached the city about you know using this park um as a playground. Did that ever get did we ever work through that? Like could you can you talk about that a little bit? They uh the residents um took a issue with it pretty heavy in the public comment so the uh school decided to go a different direction. Okay. Yeah. All right. Great. You guys just did you guys like do your own playground? So like So folks, you guys aren't utilizing that playground. You guys aren't walking down there and letting them utilize that playground. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, absolutely. Child play. Yeah. Just eliminated child play. Okay. Any other comments on Manette? Matan is another one that we haven't hit yet, so we won't review that. Okay. And so we'll move on to the Warren Avenue playfield.

I just picked up on that, too. All right. Oh, they have bricks. Yeah, they have bricks. Yeah. Yeah. Right when you enter. Yeah. Neat. They are they just It's a lot of work. It is. It's a great opportunity for people to be connected to a project, but uh they're not going to solve the world's problems. And we were always frequently tasked with going to this park because of that bank and it was always full of weeds and the blackberries near to go up there anymore. That's been okay now that bank. Yeah, we need money. Besides the maintenance of it. Besides the Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Um Yeah. So, there's some things that obviously have changed since the since 2020, uh since the project's been completed. So, removed relocation of the playground away from the street. So, that's been completed.

Um, we removed landscaping and irrigation as an as a um inventory item. Um, that's a given. Um, let's see. And then obviously pre pre- renovation management issues. The only one we or we kept a couple on. Um, minuse park. Um well, it's highly highly utilized in a small site. Um vegetation on steep bank, difficult to maintain. So even though it's been cleared up, it's still Yeah, it's and it's a big slope and um not necessarily the safest for our staff to get up there with with equipment, too. um 18 paid paved parking stalls. Uh four picnic tables. Um new irrigation system in 2021. Uh management concerns impact a neighborhood due to limited parking. So lots of on street parking gets utilized or needed in front of people's homes. Uh added vandalism uh to this one as well. Um improvement recommendations. We added partnering with the Pee-Wee's to use their security cameras or tie into them somehow. So, they do have uh we notice security cameras on the building and so thinking maybe that's there's a partnership we can come up with where we could add to it um but utilize their building to be able to at least show us a good angle towards the restrooms, the playground or the the um shelter areas uh to try to help us out for any issues that we encounter. Cool. Yeah. Oh,

yeah. Any other? Um, so one of the management issues we talked about was potentially tearing that slope up to 11th for maintenance. Um, because it is very slick and um I think they mostly take weed eaters up there uh to maintain that. And then if we tiered it, then we would be able to take um moving equipment up there as well to help. But anything else anybody had? And Ken, I forgot to mention this at the beginning. Please chime in anytime if you have comments. No, we'll do. Good stuff. Very thorough. Thank you. Yeah. at the end of those smaller parks. [Music] Yeah. So, let me see if I can hopefully do this. And Ken can still dolls in that parking. Yeah. I'm surprised. It doesn't even seem like that many. Yeah. Okay. So, 9inth Street Mini Park. Oh, there it is. Over. It's almost halfway over. I could loop it if you want me to. We used to have a little playground down there actually at one point. It was like a little slide. my backyard green is it it's entire park. Um yeah, so we saw the plans a couple months ago, so you're kind of aware obviously this is that that's what you have to climb through to get get down to the water. Um

and then where the vehicles parked is going to be that um grass surface. Yeah. Um is that couple years? Yeah, I want to say next year. Yeah. I thought they did. Yeah. You found that bumper down there. That bumper I dropped off for you. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We Yeah, it's back here. Yeah. Yeah. Looks like it got to the baby. Yeah, we sent Carlos to go get it. Yeah. Yes. No, we appreciate that. Okay. People down at that night street park right there. It gets used hanging out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious with some little improvements how much if people will utilize it for accessing the water. Yes. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Awesome. It's great. When I first looked at that slide, I was like, that's not there. No, I was like, "No." Oh, it's cuz you put them both on the same. Yeah. Um Yeah. So, we um see site is currently um being designed as we discussed pre improvement recommendations um coordinate with public works um for

long-term maintenance as a storm water facility. We wanted to put that in writing because that's our recommendation as opposed to a park that it's um more viewed um as a storm water facility, but we can help maintain um as needed, but it be more of a storm water facility um and then work towards adding it to the Kitapat Peninsula Waterway Trail and add some signage there. So, to the public or eligible to be maintained with maintained and developed as well. So for sure any way we can there's going to be a lot of Yep. So Arvon is the other one that we haven't been to yet. So we'll work on that next. Yes. Almost as excited as Ninth Street Mini Park. Yep. one of my favorite places on a super nice day. Just such a cool view. It's very popular. I mean, you're lucky to pull up there and get a be able to park.

Yeah. People love it down there. That needs some CLC. So, there's some um we've been talking to as we go along through all these parks um signage. We've got a few different varieties of signage. Um, we kind of have a standard but like Warren Avenue different than some of the other newer signage. I like kind of the old retro look, but I do like the very clean look of the newer green and um um the they're probably marine or marine grade pressure treated 4x4s. Um so you can tell here too we had two picnic tables. One's been removed. Uh so there's only one there right now. Um but issues obviously being along the water is erosion causing some of this and so we need to look at um how do we how do we address this? Um I was there a week ago, Brian. Um do we normally have a flag on the poll? It wasn't there the first time we were there either. Okay. I keep forgetting to ask um because there was no flag there last week and someone was asking me. Okay. I know that there's some on order right now. Okay. I notic the tables there. put those kind of tabletops down and you have to worry about the wood rot or

the deterioration of it versus you know that metal put the powder coated on the other one. Yeah. So that was um Yeah, we'd have to see if they could I don't know if that have to be a specific design. There's tables that are out there like that. Yeah. I mean of course being right. Yeah. Well, East Bington Road, we did a huge amount of dust with the stainless steel rails and that thing was down. I think I think it was condemned almost for sure. And I don't know if the city did the piling enforcement with the concrete. They did. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the city did that and the rotary rebuilt the whole top side of it, which has held up very well. Mhm. Yeah, we did note that it probably needs to be repainted. Um, just kind of freshened up, but yeah. No, it's in it's in pretty good shape. Um, and then I've obviously noted replaced the concrete base to the flag pole. And then we added in six parking stalls, a picnic table, and two benches. Um, yeah, there's not a whole lot of space for much there, but like we said, there's always people there. Always. Yeah, it's always getting utilized, which is great. I mean, I've never heard from any neighbors. Are you talking about just them reporting activity or other things? Yeah. But these neighbors Yeah, it's pretty busy and there's a lot of times people are just sitting

in the car going, "Yeah, that's kind of what I do." For sure. It's amazing their cars. Great spot to park. Yeah. Yeah. Fairies going by and stuff, too. All right. Um, ready to move on to Batan? Yeah, this is another one that we kind of felt like was in that same category as uh Forest Ridge is that it just needs a lot of work. Yeah. You know, this district doesn't really have a neighborhood. Was it gifted to the city? I see. Says it was developed. It's a nice It's got great views, too. It's going to be the ceremonies for baton day and yeah, the Philippine committee is going to be there. So, 10 o'clock. So, okay. If you're free when April the 5th. Okay. Yeah, I think I'm in 10. But that might be at the park. Nice. Yeah, at the park. That might be my son. Okay. So, I could walk there. Yeah.

Okay. So, yeah. And looking through um looking through here, we did under improvement recommendations from 2020, it noted a restroom facility. And we kind of felt like that this was more of a neighborhood park that people aren't necessarily traveling to get to. So maybe a restroom facility isn't warranted at this site. Um took inventory. Um Yeah, sorry. Pocket Park. We did put Okay. No, no, I think you got it. I just Yeah. Yes. No, you're right. I just crossed it off because it wasn't written the same way down below when I was going through. Yeah, it would be part part of the master plan. Yes. Yeah. Over by now. Yeah. Oh, that's what it was. It was a Viet have the ball field, too. Yes. And they got into Thank you. Yeah, the bar was the most popular thing. They sponsored things bugle core for cute. They do a lot of things but uh like saying then they find us later on.

Yeah. So, uh, obviously you're creating a master plan, um, that would include accessibility, um, because really there's no way to get to the park, um, access access wise. I had a question on the on the flag polls, like if and when we do put up flags, is that a daily thing? We we do we put them up and take them down every day? No. [Music] Yeah. Yeah. You'll see about halfway the boulders solar light. Perfect. Perfect. Okay. All right. So, maybe just the flags got a little ratty or something when you took them down and they just needed to be or something like that. Sure. Yeah. Or sometimes in I don't know if we we don't have any really large flags, do we? Because sometimes you'll do that if there's a big windstorm that comes through, you take them take them down. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just it could be stressed over time. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um Yeah. So, the the master plan and then improving pedestrian access like I mentioned from Silvin Way, a stairway down from that upper side. Um, but we also thought maybe there might be um Oh, wait. Silvin's Silven's the one that goes north south because this is like Yeah, it's Silvin. What is it's like on Olympus, right? This is right down from your parks. Um, like where the the maintenance guys are on Olympus still, right? When you guys mow down there, do you just drive are you trailering a a a lawn mower over there or you just drive it down the road? Generally, pick. Yeah, there's not enough really area to move a trailer around

and with no irrigation. Yeah, the trees that are there. Nice. Okay, cool. Landing. Oh, yeah. to multiple weddings. It's a little park. Yeah. On the street. That was our biggest concern. Agreed to kind of make really kind of make it a nice wedding venue, but without taking green space away, you can't really create much more parking there. Yeah. Oh, there you go. This was like a fairy terminal. Was this a skate? Okay. That would be cool to include that in the mystery. Yeah. I always thought that it could be like sort of like a catch up parent stop for, you know, in the future. It could be done again. If they start going to Silverdale, open space. Get off and get on the bus. You don't need a parking lot. Yeah. So, um, one of the previous

recommendations was to, um, it wasn't a recommendation, it was to consider removing, uh, this access road and, um, at least when we were there and we ourselves used it as a pathway. Um, so we kind of felt that we wanted to remove that as an option. and we'd rather see it stay um because it seemed like there was use for it to have it there. The launching. Yeah. So, they'll probably be carrying them or like if you're lazy like me, I got a wheel on my There you go. Yeah. All right. So, 11 parking stalls, three picnic tables, two benches. Um, one of the management concerns is not accessible. Um, the bank erosion due due to storm water runoff. Um, so there's some issues there with the bank. Uh, substandard steps. Um, and that was the other thing I was going to show. Um, down to the water down. So, you have a below kind of view I think right here. So this area over here um these are are starting to pull away from the concrete too. So this whole structure needs to be um fixed and I don't was a substandard substandard stairs related to this or the I think it was this as opposed to the the shelter. Let's see. Uh oh. Visibility. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And how's the gazebo?

Looks good from here. It could use some more. It's really nice in the dark. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not even sure what the thought was on maybe you were around Colette during this was for the small size was okay I'm curious what the reasoning if it was for a certain use or thought process or maybe there were multiple yes the weddings that I u everyone's can you go back to it So they stood in there and then we were up more. Oh, so they'd actually Yes. That's where they would do the correct ceremony. And then the wedding party would just be off the sides. Off to the sides. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Uh, one of the other recommendations we had was to um make this more visible. Um, so the easiest way to do that is we would change the landscaping cuz we stand there and we look at it and it's like it's it's buted up right against the sign. So coming at it from that direction, you're not going to see the sign at all. They built one of those little tiny ones right next to that too. Oh yeah. Um so one of our improvement recommendations, the new ones are replace gazebo, replace steps at rolling um at railing and shoreline and then remove vegetation blocking entry sign. When you replace the gazebo, you just do like a regular picnic shelter again.

that we would have in mind or Yeah, I think a site like this would probably, you know, like one of the ones we've been putting in, I would almost consider whether that side or a little smaller, but maybe something too that might be more intentional for weddings. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, is that something? They had probably part of the park. I'm sure it's just part of the park rental as opposed to a separate $5 a day rental for Yeah. Like including historic signage to that would be cool. Yeah. Yep. Okay. We are getting closer. Yeah, we are um on Roto Vista. Yeah, on this one I can see you guys just kind of combining one. Yeah, we decided to make it one. It's such a beautiful view. Yeah. And it people were aware of that going on the bridge to bridge trail and brought people down to that it just would more activity there. Yeah. So like a trail. Is there a is there a sign for this? Yeah. Picture a sign here anywhere. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Here's your lower part. That's our staged picture.

Yeah, it's neat. Yeah, it's cold. Have you all been down to it? Yeah. I mean, it it can be a nasty area, but it's got it's got great views down there. It's really beautiful down there. Yep. Yeah. Okay. So, and Yeah. So, we're calling it Roto Vista Park as opposed to lower now. So, that's one change. Um, um, let's see. The Rotary dedication plaque, was that something new we wanted to add under inventory or was it there? Okay. Oh, yeah. We added that to the inventory. Okay. improvement recommendations. Developing a pedestrian pathway um from the bridge to the water. The plaque's on that rock, right? Is that where that plaque is? I can I feel like that plaque is on this big rock. Looks like a Yeah, on that one right there. Yes, that big Yes, that one right there. I'm pretty sure that's where the plaque is. Yeah. Um upgrade seating and landscaping. consider public art creating something to draw people to that site. Uh provide continuous vegetation clearing uh to maintain sight lines. Uh this is also the upper area is also an area um that is identified for some improvements I think as part of the bridge project. And so most likely we believe it's going to be a staging area, but there'll be also a requirement to reestablish. Sure. And so that'll be an opportunity for us to have some funding to help kind of

design um some things into that upper portion. Um in addition, there are some trees with Pis Energy. They're re they're relocating some lines that they have in between the upper and lower. And so they'll be replant removing a couple trees and replanting um planting six trees in there. So those are just things that'll be happen happening through a different project. This part doesn't get used at all. No, it's Yeah. So I don't know one to me it's we should sell it on the other if we're not we could do something to address the noise yeah I think the upper portion we need to look at map some mapping of ownership I think a fair amount of it may be owned by the state as rightaway but the bottom yeah I think yeah that was kind of one of our two separate that is owned by section parcel and there have been talk about um selling this upper parcel but in the past um the trick is that it it's a great access for the lower and I see this as more of like not really like a park that you'd want to go hang out at but if you're more like a spur off of the bridge bridge trail would be like a view point you know Yeah, that you're taking, you know, hey, let's go, you know, have a have a picnic down there. And I don't know. It's it's nice down there at the water. Oh, yeah. It is. Yeah. It just used to walk by. Never. I think one of the concerns would be the noise.

Yeah. Yeah. Did you try to get that in the public comment process for the trail? of getting some kind of noise deflected and they have similar systems but it didn't get in the final design the extended bridge. I thought I had something about like the um Oh, the falcon nesting. It's in there. Yeah. The other thing that I saw when you walked by it that big concrete the big uh square piece of concrete in there was like what they were tying during World War II. They were kind of like, you know, blimps of that to keep people from Yeah, it's kind of neat. Historical stuff. All over the place when you're Yeah, [Laughter] there. There you go. Okay, Pat Kerry Vista, another really long video. Yes. Honestly, looking at these sites in the winter, it wasn't a bad thing because we could really see what was going on. Oh yeah. Okay. So on Pat Kerry, um improvement recommendations from 2020 notes to pave the parking area. Um, we're recommending

to just adding rock and regrading sure the parking area instead. I mean, I think that's something that's can be easier done and and may make more sense, especially with the amount of erosion that's occurring at this site. Site looks like it was just a fill site. Is that how that developed? Yeah, we we dump stuff there. Yeah. And the whole the whole Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like public works at a meeting that they haven't I think they were going to do sewer line at one point they wanted to I saw something about they're going to have to acquire some property for station [Music] Yeah, that was about it. Um, two benches, but yeah, just kind of focus on making some improvements to that parking lot um to eliminate those potholes. Okay. Sheridan. Yes. Almost there. It does.

Lady on yard's pretty empty. It's really not anymore. Well, they've done a great job of cleaning it out. Yeah, cuz we're trying to eventually look at this as one large a larger park site. But yeah, these are the views. Crazy. Yeah. No. City accessibility. I mean they thought it was they and they were the city for00 nobody nobody wanted I said they don't make water thrown anymore. Do you see people pull down there at all? People still park down there. Seen some people that'll walk dogs down there. Yeah. Yeah. They'll pull straight in there. Yeah. Um and then you probably didn't notice it, but we even saw someone swinging on this We were starting to lose it at this point. And and so we had we we like pushed the swing. I thought you did too. There it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's when you start getting a little little loopy. But another one that doesn't there's no signage over there, you know, signifying that this is a park. It's just sure it's directly across the street from us from Sheridan Park. There's Yeah, there's a number of signs within a few blocks that note Sheridan Park, but Yeah, that's the area. Yeah. Not

Yeah, it's it's got so much potential. It does. Yeah. Integrate the maintenance yard. That was main. Yeah. And so looking at creating an identity for this park, um you know, positives, it's got on street parking already. You don't necessarily have to use parking down inside of it. Um, plus you've got the community center across the way for parking. Um, swing. Yeah, we put added a swing. It previously it said playground. There was a little playground and so we just put swing. Yeah. Um, couple picnic tables, two benches. Um, one of the maintenance concerns is the ivy all over the trees down there. Uh, quite a bit. Um, and then improvement recommendations adding in there evaluating the health of the trees that are on that slope. Um, yeah, this is another site too that would be kind of fun to create some sort of master plan for. Um, I've talked to a couple different groups and it's tough cuz, you know, it could be a really cool like overlook amphitheater type space. Uh this is a spot, you know, that could be a pump track area as well. Um number of different opportunities. Uh it's partially fenced if we wanted to use as a dog park cuz in East Breton dog park is something that we've been wanting to identify and get developed. So there's a few options, but again with those views, what is the highest and best use of it? Is it to sell it or is it to develop it as as green space? place near there. There was going to be

a lot of pressure for people to be able to be exposed to nature. For sure. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The views would be all set. If we were to relocate the maintenance yard, what what's like the thought there? Up at Olympus, we're thoughting the fencing up there and approaching that that property that seems to make most relevant would consolidate everything. Nothing. So ideas public bridge had a better place to put some of their sand. It would be nice to extend all the way under the bridge because in Portland they have like a Saturday market and stuff that they have. It's all covered because of the bridge and they have a farmers market under there and it would be a big draw for this little community, you know. Or they have Burnside skate park. Yeah. Yeah. There's a troll. We'll do that. Well, I'm glad that old building Dawn that was down in that main goes down forever. Yeah. The maintenance yard better than it does right now. Yeah. Yeah. No, they've done a good job. And at the same time, they're removing some things from underneath this building, too. Um, because the basement is the same floor print as the top, and it's just been storage over years. We've stored probably 80 years worth of tables and chairs that we've replaced down there. Okay. Um, you guys ready to move on to the last one? Let's do it.

Okay. And this is one that a lot of people don't realize is ours. Yes. Yep. Yeah. There's no sign. Yeah, there is a sign. You see it at the end. Yeah, I guess it must. Yeah. Former waterfall. Oh, there it is. Oh, but it's not like our our looks like a enforcement. It does. Yeah. Yeah. By or City of Breton Parks Department property by ordinance. Yeah. Okay. So, thanks for mentioning basketball hoop. wasn't on there before, so we added it. Um, m management concerns. Um, so previously it was noted that I think at that time they must have still been running the waterfall that's there um because it was really really high and so they were concerned and needing to discuss with the school, you know, if they wanted to share and I'm assuming discussions occurred and they just both decided they didn't want it. uh because it's definitely hasn't run in some time. Um so we just noted that utility expenses were too high to run the water feature even though it's still there. Uh we just wanted to at least make note of that that that's why it's not running. Um so there's an area and I don't think we have it in the video the wheel stop. So, there's an entrance pathway into the park and there's a wheel stop in the

pathway and so um even replacing that with a ballard. So, and I'm assuming the wheel stop was put in so people wouldn't drive into it. U but if we replace it with a ballard then it becomes accessible at least and so the wheel stops causing it to not be accessible at all. We couldn't find really another route to get into the park. Um, so that's that's what that recommendation under improvements um would be related to. So is there an existing I I hear I'm reading about the um like this lease agreement KCR. Is that still in place? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we don't maintain it. Yeah. Yep. Still But again, this is one of Yeah, this is again, this is one of those that, you know, do we look to potentially sell it to them to utilize? They could fence it in. And I don't know how much of the public really uses it within the in the neighborhood at all. It's not a destination. No, close. But I would love Yeah, I would love to do a true nature play area though, too. Um with that we have um upgrade site furniture there is that like a detail right? Yeah but right now it's not our responsibility. Um and that's what we need to kind of we've got so many agreements in place. I

haven't gotten into that part of my train my training, but yeah, I would Yeah. Yeah, regular maintenance. But I don't know if it's kind of like a standard maintenance agreement where um whoever's utilizing it does regular maintenance and then we would do replacement. I'm not sure how that's written. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Building. No, building's not Yeah. Yeah. You did later. All right. Awesome. Well, that got us through everything that we were able to to do this last month. Like I said, we met we missed four um which we can go back to. Uh we also don't want to get too far behind either. Um and so we've kind of been chatting. We'll hit the other four this week. Um just so we have those for next month. And then I'm just [Music] gonna share this to just kind of remind us where we're at on things. Um, so that was neighborhood parks and pocket parks. Um, these first few ones we're hitting. There are there's a lot of stuff. So, thank you for for working through all of this. Next month, um, we'll probably we'll do the four that we missed. Um then we'll get into the the natural areas, plazas, streetscapes, greenways, all of those pieces. Um and try to get

to as many as we can. Um I don't think in May we'll need the entire meeting for survey results. So we may just extend the April 22nd uh topics into May so then we don't go too late next month. Um when's the survey over? Survey is over April 30th. Um, we're at over 700. Yeah, we're about 700 right now. We're we're getting some trickles here and there. Um, so we'll see. I'm sure the video will get hundreds a day after that gets out into the public. Yeah. No, but otherwise, yeah, that's kind of kind of what we're looking at. So, we're still still on schedule. I appreciate the video. Yeah, I love Yeah, it's a I'll tell you's done a lot of work on that. They're they're fun. Um but I think you're enjoying it. Yeah. And it's given us some ideas too of how we can utilize it on our website, you know, updating pictures with videos and um just making things a lot more interactive and visual for people. And it's helped us just remember. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. For sure. Yeah. All right. Good stuff. Let's move into our last thing is commissioner's comments. Uh we'll start with Commissioner Riley. You got anything for us tonight, bud? Just had one quick question back to Sheridan Park in the community center. I know with the um with the bond as a faith community, we've had to pivot and people have been inquiring asking me is the Sheridan Park Community Center available for rental and um is that have you guys been seeing traction with people trying to reserve that space with anticipation of some of

the other spaces not being available to those schools get remodeled? So, it's a great question. Um, I'm working with the school district and their consultants on putting together essentially our outdoor athletic facilities, uh, opportunities. So, they have, uh, basically, um, the the floor plan of what they need to to help with, let's say, like rugby and other groups. Um, and so we're going to provide them what our dimensions are for our fields, uh, facilities. I've been talking with the pickle ballers. Of course, they're on top of things for sure. So, we're looking at Yeah. So, we're looking at um trying to incorporate some times and they understand that we have other things we need to program in and we have three courts here versus the 12 that they're used to having there. Yeah. So, we're working with them. Um and we'll work with others that need gym space, too. Uh but that's really what we've been working on is just the athletic side of things. Um don't have a whole lot that are reaching out to me yet. Um but from that meeting you and I were both at um I've got a couple people that have reached out to me recently. Uh the football group has uh recently as well. So Okay. Thanks Tim. Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise we've got we've got space if you know of anybody that needs some space. Okay. Thumbs up. Great. All right. Thank you, Commissioner Riley. All right, Commissioner McDonald. Well, just a great meeting. Really looking for item eight on the agenda. Spoken from a former council member, Commissioner Dawson.

party. Don't make it really dazzling. Talked with the in the past. I've talked with the neighbors around there. I think some people have we even had people come and present a couple of times on various ideas they for. All right, Commissioner W. I'm good. Thanks. And I'm good. All right. Meeting adjourned. Number eight. Thank you, folks. Thanks, Ken. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you. Have a great night, everyone. Yeah, you too.