Parks and Recreation Commission - Regular Meeting

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Okay, we are good to go. Yeah. Bill in tonight. Ben is in travel. He's in Japan. So, please have mercy on me. Call this meeting to order our January recreation commission meeting. So um first on the list is our approval of our minutes from the December 3rd 2024 meeting discuss it or do not a motion just do I say madam president I don't know how vice president

yes madam vice president sounds meeting.

So, um, now we have our agenda for tonight.

If I restore all my pages, then it'll get me Madam chair, I would move to approve the agenda as presented. Second that agenda has been approved. Um, public comment. I'm just going down the list. Yeah. Who do we have on for public? We asked the the public. Did everyone sign in for the two minutes? Okay.

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There we go. Um M Coleman, I sent an email to um your director Sam earlier today and he brought it to you. So if you haven't had a chance to read it, I just have a little recap. Um and then Sam as well is here from the West Sound Disc Golf Association and we just wanted to kind of retouch base uh with the parks commission. Um we say hi and put our faces in front of you as well. Um I am vice president of the West Disc Golf Association and um I'm not a Breton resident but my husband and I do own a small business in the city of Breton which is 360 Disc Golf which is a disc golf only store on Leon Way. And if you're not familiar, everyone want to come by. It's next to the cat cafe, which means people seem to know where that's at. And it's a really interesting complex. It's got cats, we are disc golf, and exotic fish now. Very unique. Um, so my husband opened that store in 2014, so we just celebrated our 10 year anniversary, which is a feat for a small business. Um, but it shows the growth of the sport. Um, and we hope to celebrate our 20 year anniversary in 2034. That's the goal. Um, I'm also um a planner with the city of Posso, their planning manager, and I've worked on some parks projects and the pros plan. And that's just to say that I'm familiar with some of the work that you guys do. Not as familiar as your staff. They're way more familiar. I just have an idea of how hard it is um to do the work that you guys do. So, thank you for committing the volunteer time. I know it's not easy. Um so but tonight I just wanted to emphasize the role of the West Disc golf association in maintaining and improving disadvantment. Um founded in the early odds the west dis association has been around for a while um with a various uh number of u members. We're a nonprofit 501c3. Um we're dedicated to promoting the growth and sustainability of the sport

in the West Sound region. Um we have a lot of really excited members. Um there's a lot um the growth of the sport has been fun to watch. Um but it also means our courses get less crowded and have a little more impact. And so that's what Chris will talk about in a little while and we're really excited about that project as well. Um, NAP, I think as you know, was formed in 2004. Um, as Chris have gone over with you, and my husband was actually one of the people who helped install that course. Um, so he has a lot of fond memories and it's a really unique course in that it's very challenging for people who are really good because there's so many trees, but also really beginner friendly. That's the one thing I love about the sport is that anyone can play it. Um, it's really equitable. you only you can spend 20 bucks and go out and play it for free at a public course and that's the way um disc golf should be and something that I really love about it. So um other than that some of the highlights just to let you know um since 2010 Westtown has been running the Ice Bowl event um and it has raised nearly $19,000 and about 3800 pounds of youth for Breton food line. So, we've been doing that every year since 2010 and it's something that we just did last month or actually we smile.

What's the ice bowl? It's a national sponsored event for raising money for food banks around the country. A as a disc golf. As a disc golf event. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's something that um we were probably one of the early people to do the bicep. Yeah. Um and then so you're paying to play and the money go the money goes directly to charity. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's really fun. This ice bowl could have meant to be in the winter. So there's some like this year it was beautiful and sunny and other years it's been miserable. But that's football.

That's the goal. Um and then also which I think is really cool about Westtown is that um established in 2021, the Evergreen Women's Series is run out of the Westtown region and that's a women's only disc golf series run by women for women. Um and it's it's a lot of participants. We have some national sponsors and um it gets a lot of women and young ladies involved sport and it's been growing every year. So, and then this year coming out of West Sound is the Washington State Junior Disc Golf Championships. So, we're starting that up this year um with the hope that it'll kind of transition between our local courses. So, we're hoping to have it at MAD next year. So, that'll be a big junior event to grow the sport for our youth. So, we're really excited about that. Um, I just wanted to introduce myself, say hello, and I hope to see you guys again in the future. Thank you.

Thank you. Just for the commission members reference, I did include in your packet today the letter that was sent as part of her email. Um, but I think I was able to get to you maybe earlier or midafter afternoon today if you didn't see it. Did you include some of the data to stats? You just balance. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Anyway, I'm Sam Huff with report. Yeah. The treasure for the west and I wanted to continue our kind of awareness of who we are, what we do. We've been around for a long time. Um we got four primary agenda items this year for Napard. One is to keep our lever realhip parks permit continue to mitigate impact but just all such as soil compaction trail erosion which is one we've really started up the whole neger group for the restoration project. It's been need a long time. It's been a very uh highly used park with that too and just uh with you guys for future needs of dis golf for general improvements. It's it's an aging park now. Of course has been in for over 20 years now. So, it's time to start replacing equipment now. And so, we thought we want to update the T- signs. Um, course map, we had one, it's kind of outdated. We need to update that. The overall trail map that is for net parks in the pros plan is outdated. We need to work on trying to get that updated also. So, corporation the next go around pros plan. We also time to upgrade and replace the the baskets themselves. Um, so we're working on fundraising and uh want to continue and actually get the baskets upgraded sometime soon with that. So, here's kind of the fun stats. So you disk it's an app that we use for keeping score and also since the phone it keep tracks everything you do and so with that um there was 37,000 around the golf ball plate at that park this last year

which is pretty consistent now after the co spike you can see in your other chart it's got the layered chart layer so the um co spike really everyone knows outdoors so it went up and then since then you can see that it's that park has pretty much stayed around the the 37 38,000 round mark so um it could get bigger but it's really only so much more we need more person areas so fairgrounds we've been working on it so I think that's helped releasing the pressure on that so and that fairgrounds kit fairgrounds disc golf park is almost the busiest national park now so with that but with that um yeah 155 million steps were taken so yeah we're getting our steps in and with that uh got 62,000 hours spent in the disc golf area which means the presence of park years have been a great surveillance tool to deer vandalism and homeless encasment so there's someone at that park seven days a week of keeping on the park. So that really helps uh keep the the bad people out. With that, we just want to look to the future. Continue your partnership with the city of Burlington and the westound disposition can further enhance quality of fuel in that park. Thank you for your time, dedication to maintaining B parks and recreation facilities. Please reach out to us if you have any questions. We just want to continue making our parks beautiful around here. It's uh the rest of that park this golf course we know is uh next on the list that needs to be improved out of our park. So, but we do what we can to help you guys out. Thanks a lot. Question I saw a nice article but after restoration that was more or less work for you to talk about that at all.

Yeah, that was the net restoration. Oh, okay. You're going to talk about that? Yes. Okay. Chris has taken the lead on the restoration side of it. We'll work continue with the design and the part upgrade and improve the the course itself. So, we're working a partnership here. All right. Thanks. You're welcome. Thanks. Yeah. Hey everybody. Nice to see you again. Before you get started, were there Kadik? He's on He's an agenda item and I just wanted to make sure that everybody if there was any other comments. There is.

That's what I'm here for. [Laughter] So now we are okay. Thanks. All right. Well, hey, thanks everybody. Yeah, no worries.

Um, first I want to thank you again for the opportunity to present tonight on behalf of the NAT restoration project. Uh since we last spoke, we've made uh some really great progress on the restoration efforts. You'll see that in the presentation as it comes up. And I apologize um for I put this presentation together between uh shifts at the hospital. And there's a few things we might have to skip around on, but um it is going to take you through what we've done and where we're going with the restoration project. Um I hope by the end of tonight's presentation we'll have a green light to really transform um the disc golf course in AD and get a green light for some of these uh proposals that we have in presentation tonight. Um it is a big night. You've heard from both the WSCGA and the NAD restoration project, the two groups that are working to restore Nad Park and to really revitalize that that disc golf course. Um first uh we're going to do our presentation. I think do you still have a um presentation about baskets at the end?

No. Okay.

All right. So, um well, you've heard from the WCJ the NA restoration project um is myself as part of the planning committee, myself, Matt Manson, Ian Williamson, and then um a newcomer to the planning committee who's not here tonight, uh Jay Reefs, who's done a lot of really good work with us. Um, and we're focused really on the ecological restoration of the park and the safety of of the park and playability of it. Um, that's that's our main focus where the WSDGA, they do great work with the tournaments and they're doing baskets and teapads and that those kind of infrastructural things. We're really focused on just the softcaping and then some things that will help the the ecology in general. All right, so let's get into this. We go ahead the next slide. Do you want me to just tell you next? Yeah, you just tell me. Otherwise, I probably won't catch an eye.

All right. So, presentation schedule. These are the things that we're going to go over. There's a lot to catch up on. Um, first we'll go over the updates and then design proposals and upcoming events. And of course, we'll we'll hit on the Gitap Sun article, too, which is really fun. Next,

so we had we've had two work parties. Um, the first was a banger. We had um we've had 91 plus hours volunteer service between the two work parties. um over $300 communities of community investment into it so far. Um I have a conversation about how we'd like to mitigate that in the future, but we can talk about that later. Uh Tim has offered some potential boneyard materials that are not being used to be used in the project, which is very generous. Thank you. Uh we did fairway mulching on hole one and we completed uh the teapad renovation for uh hole one and two. But this is what hole one looks like. So on the left side of the screen is what hole one's teapad used to look like. As you can see there's a lot of erosion there. Um and then the the fairway is right underneath the teapad picture. Some uh mid work party photos of our group out there. And really this is a very smallest mattering of the group. There was like 20 people out there over the course of the day. So I just snapped a few pictures in between getting retaining blacks laid. And then on the far right side um is what the TPAD now looks like. And so it's the same picture just before and afters. Next. So we're now working on hole two. I'm going to get more into detail on whole two. So I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this slide, but um as you can see, we've started similar work on hole two. And the befores and before and afters again left going to right. Next. So to reacquaint you with our goals for hole two especially and really this is indicative of the entire course. We are looking to slow runoff uh retain uh the water and and minimize erosion on the course by repositioning logs that are available locally uh in the park uh to mulch and minimize the impact of rain

and foot traffic as we go down uh the fairways. Next. So are we that last picture are we looking at a a fairway trail is correct. Um may I approach and just point. Okay. So this is um the teapad that we were looking at the last slide up here and then the basket is here. So this is the entire fairway

and um our old pathway to the fairway went through um the sensitive soil area here. That's a seasonal stream. It's called what's called an ephemeral stream. Um, it comes and goes throughout the season, but it also it gets groundwater and rain that contributes to it. So, uh, we had the Kitap Sun come out during their work party on hold, too. It was a lot of fun. Caillou, and I hope I'm saying his his last name correctly, uh, was awesome. He and Megan came out and, uh, took some great pictures of us and did a a really, I thought a very nice article. Um, and Matt really had the quote of the article. I missed my opportunity. He snagged it up. But this is really what we're going for. U we take pride in uh what we're doing with our course and it feels so good to be out there and giving life back to it. Pat, do you want to say anything about that?

Uh I don't mean to put you on the spot. It's import Yeah. putting in the work labor, physical labor, and then you get out there, you play with other people who are just like, "Man, this course is so great." And you're just like, "Yes, it is great. isn't. It's awesome. The people who do maintenance out here are awesome. No, but in seriousness though, it does feel good to to be able to to commune. I mean, on a basic level with people like that, but yeah, you know, it's good we're out here. We're doing our stuff. Yeah, it feels good to get back.

I really I want to give kudos to Matt. He's been um helping us a lot with picking up gravel and dropping it at the site uh with his his truck and it's just been he's been invaluable to the restoration project. So big kudos to Matt for that. I thought the quote of the article was my big contribution of coffee and donuts that that's all I had credit. That's basically what I was there for. Yeah. And the director brought donuts and coffee and then immediately left

which they they were all eating. They weren't eating there. I ate them the next um so next slide. So, I wanted to cover this again. And these were some of the current these aren't really current um park maintenance issues anymore because we've really gone over this um hump and and we're working into a new era of NAD park and thank you very much again the all of you for helping us with this but we are facing um what will be a m ongoing maintenance of the park in future and so we are going to be continuing to make sure that as the the planning committee works on this we're really working to make this as simple as possible so that it's easy to maintain in the future. Next slide. Um the design proposals that you'll be seeing tonight, uh they I'm looking for commission support and approval. Uh these are general concepts in the sense that that foot bridge that you see in that picture is my very amateur graphic design attempt at putting in a foot bridge. It's not exactly that foot bridge. It's the only one that I could cut and paste from Google and slap in there fairly easily. Uh but I will show you the design proposal that we have for foot bridges and they'll all be uniform as we go along. Uh we are hoping that this winter if we continue on with our momentum we'll at least get through whole five by like May maybe earlier and if if so possibly even to whole six or seven doing the same kind of keypad renovation and mulching but those are what we consider our foundational uh efforts in the park and some of these other slides you'll see are more detailed. I hope that and I know this is ambitious that we would be completing the foundational uh work in 24 months. That's 18 holes in 24 months and so far we're doing about a hole per month. Uh the further design elements um will be implemented throughout

periodically throughout the next five years. So that's like planting and and things like that. Next slide. So um wanted to propose an arrival sequence. Um any good park you've been to uh as you're moving into the park through the main path has an arrival sequence. Currently our kiosk is over by the shelter and it's fairly small. It doesn't allow for course maps. It doesn't allow for uh much more than community announcements which is really really important. But we also have a restoration project uh to promote course map that can be um you know picture can be taken and utilized by people who are visiting the park and then community events. Um, so what we're proposing is a three panel kiosk and that kiosk will have room for each one of those elements. It'll offer park visitors an arrival sequence to the park and indicate to them that they are in the disc golfing area and they're on the right track to hold one. Um, and yep, next slide. This is what it would look like. So it would be a nice, you know, this isn't necessarily exactly to scale, but something like that. and it would show uh just everything that everybody needs to know as they're walking in. One of the aspects of this uh kiosk is that it is one-sided in that a lot of people will come out on through hole 18 on an access road that would be behind us if we're standing where we are looking at that kiosk. Some people will also be coming this way. So maybe on one panel it would say, "Hey, thanks for playing that part." Something like that. Next slide. Another uh change to the arrival um that we're proposing is the removal of a teapad that was smashed in the winter. What was it? Last winter. Last winter.

Last winter.

Winter 24. We had a a windstorm came down a or fell a tree and it smashed the teapad. It's in shambles. Um has to be kind of removed. So, but this opens up an opportunity for us to do some planting and separating hole three from hole one, which you know, golfers, they don't like their distraction. Um, it also offers a nice little buffer uh too and kind of a nice cozy arrival sequence. And it could look something maybe a couple different varieties or or um ideas of what this would look like options. Next slide. It would be uh a complete planting with one entrance as you can see. So you have the the entrance where the kiosk would be is kind of where the entrance word is on the slide and then moving in on one path. A buffer of native plantings continuing the same aesthetic that is there currently maybe with some seasonal color like a crab apple tree or something like that or next slide. It could have two paths and that path could be easy access to to whole three and it's a commonly used path for people also walking up. So, u these are options that we would like approval on so that we can put them forward to the community and get votes on uh votes on them from the community uh through our Facebook page. Next slide. Any questions by the way of any of the slides so far? I just, you know, on the signage and I'm not an expert on signage, but the parks department has a lot of experience with signage that somehow seems to withstand graffiti or what do you do to keep refresh signs or is it is there a cost effective way to protect stuff or do you use plexiglass or

there is like a graffiti coating that you can get on this but you know So it' be under like the plexiglass and then we could open it. I was kind of thinking something along those lines so that we could protect course map is going to be expensive and again you know our goal is to keep the cost minimal for the city and to the disc golf community and to raise funds through donations and philanthropic contributions. That kind of thing is something that I'm hoping we can raise money for. Um but yeah, I don't I would like to put it on glass so that we protect it. Um so this is further down. Sorry, did that answer your question? Okay.

Uh so this is further down hole one. I'll um you saw the the work that we did on the Tapad and Fairway. At the end of the work that we did on the path going up to the quoteunquote green, uh we have a seasonal pond much like the seasonal stream on hole two. It fills up during the winter and it drains during the summer, but throughout about nine months of the year, it's wet and slippery. Um, it's unsafe footing, is also a sensitive ecology, and it is an ephemeral pond. So, uh, we're proposing to have two foot bridges that go around, three foot bridges approach the green, two in this picture on either side, and then a dock that comes out to the center of the pond. That would be like on cement footings. And you'll see this uh later on in the presentation, but what this dock allows us to do is walk out to the middle of the stream without risking any injury or falling into the water. We can still get our discs by using we have disc grabbers that reach into water hazards and we can get our disc easily without even having to get into the water at all. So that allows us to do planting and restore the ecology that way. Uh next slide. Next slide. So before I move into hole two, um I wanted to reintroduce this slide to you all that we saw last uh summer. These are landing zones on hole two. These are areas that we consider for uh where people are going to be walking pretty commonly. Uh next slide. Um and as we get into whole two we do have our challenges. So we have seasonal stream of saturated soils. It's an ephemeral stream. It comes and goes with seasons. We have common mist uh areas and landing zones that uh land in the stream. We have uh difficulty with keeping disc golfers out of the soil. So, we're going to be seeing a lot of foot bridges in this presentation, which I'm excited about. I kind of call it the

foot bridge area, foot bridge zone of the park. Um and it's slippery and unsafe footing in the winter, too. So, looking to improve safety by by strategic design. Our goals are to build safe access around and over the stream, replant the native flora and create habitat for fauna, slow water runoff, define pathways with mulch for keeping them to about six feet wide, and reposition logs in or in order in order to support other goals that we have uh including u building up uh nice planting areas. Next slide. To reacquaint you with the water flow, the main light blue is the main water flow going down the fairway. Um, it's contributed to by the dark blue. Next slide. The old pathway is the bright red walked right through the main water flow and was compacting the soil there. We're proposing next slide that we go around the the uh sensitive soils and habitat by um moving the the pathways out a bit and then replanting in the same vein as a native rain garden. And I'll show you what that looks like later. Next slide. So this is the old old T uh old old to teapad. We're going to start from the top of the hill and work our way down. Uh we had rain accumulation on teapad. It was slick. We had mud compaction on the tea, abrupt edge which was unsafe and teapad erosion. And our goals were to pretty much eliminate all those things. Uh have drier te's safer teapad and minimize erosion and also keep our material costs low. Next slide.

This is what it looks like now. We did this on January 18th. Something like that. 16. 12. Yeah, 16th. It's in the past. I forget what the date was. Next word is on the 8th of next month. So,

it's in my mind. Anyway, um we put retaining blocks out just around the the teapad just like we did on hole one. We filled it with 3/4 clean gravel and u that encourages a cleaner and drier teapad and it works. It both hole one and hole two are staying very clean and very dry which is real cool. Um the unconnected border as you can see here it does the retain black box come all the way around here in the back here there's a tree root. It's an anchor route for a a tall cedar. We didn't want to do any kind of cutting of that route. So, we just stopped the retaining blocks and we just dug out what we could and packed in gravel around back and it looks it looks nice and it's not affecting the tree. Next slide. This is the fairway going downhill towards the basket. U it has all the issues that we mentioned earlier with water runoff and and impact from rain and foot traffic. And so our goal was to cover this up, slow the traffic and uh the rain water down and create planting areas with that will be able to absorb the the water that does hit the the fair uh fairway. Next slide. So this is what it looks like. Now it might be a little bit difficult to see, but it serpentines its way down. Can you all see that? Okay, cool. So each one of those areas that comes out um that to create the serpentine path. First of all, water likes to go in a straight line and you know the the direction of bleach resistance. This is going to really slow the water down as well as slow traffic down and make it I think more enjoyable. Those areas that are are creating the serpentine path by coming into the the fairway. Next slide. Um can be planted out with natives. So Ian, I'm sorry. It's salow. Ian does not like salow. Most most disc golfers don't like salow because it eats discs. Never find them

again. Um I just put this here as a placeholder as an example of what we can do with these these uh these beds. This is a German forest gardening technique called Hugoulture. It utilizes woody debris and soil and uh wood chips to create a really nice bed of soil for our native plants. So, um, the design goals that we have and the planting ideas that we have, we'll look forward to the community. The idea I think we're looking I'm looking for in my efforts to create this design and as we go down with the plan committee, we'll we'll discuss that a bit more is to make it a bit more dense planting up close to the teapad where we can really utilize the water and suck that up before it heads down the fairway. And then as we get down the fairway to the seasonal stream, it's a little bit more sparse and that's where we're going to have the disc landing. It'll make it easier for people to find disc and they'll do less trampling of the of the soil and the plants.

Next, we tried organ gray. We haven't planted anything yet, but we're going to plant because yeah, that was not as thick, but they are hardy. They were just harder to cut out in my

um so whole tooth fairway to reacquaint you from the air. Uh this is the ephemeral stream. It I didn't really highlight it very well. You'll see it actually in the next slide, but it it has two kind of serpentine paths that create a island in the middle. Next slide. And um we would like to create a series of foot bridges that actually take the player through the course without and and to give them opportunities to get their discs without ever having to go into the the uh sensitive saturated soils. We can replant those with uh tufted hairrass um with red os or dogwood, skunk cabbage, pacific nine bark and swordfern. The Pacific nine bark is actually that large planting at the end of the fairway. And of course, these are things we're going to have to run by our community to make sure that they're okay with things like that. But, um, the the native plantings, I think, are sparse enough that they would effectively absorb water and and, um, create that habitat again and reestablish and revitalize that stream. The logs that you see up in the upper kind of center right that is a proposal for repurposing some of the logs and woody debris for habitat. Next slide. So it could this is what it currently looks like and we're hoping it looks like the next slide something more like this. And you saw these this last June. Next slide. So another another uh this is what it looks like currently. Like I literally took this last month. And what we're proposing is to create foot bridges right over that. Um there's some, you know, opportunities for rock and uh and flora to put plants in there and create kind of pockets of planting and really improve the edges in uh ecology. The more edges that we have, the better habitat opportunities that we have for for diversity. Next slide. And it could

look like this, which I think is a lot more aesthetically interesting for both the golfers, but it's also a lot more ecologically viable. Next slide. Uh, hole two green currently looks like this. But we also we want to do all the same things. Minimize impact and erosion by next slide. Mulching it. Maybe not exactly this extensively. Again, graphic design efforts are maybe a little bit amateur at the moment. But um this would have three foot bridges approaching it. And again, you may not be able to see these, but there's one over here on the right, one in the center, and one going to hold three in the at the far edge. I've added some roaded dungeons as placeholders for basically creating a buffer between the access road and the fairway so that if somebody throws a a solid drive that and somebody's walking down the access road, it creates a safety buffer there. Next slide. This is at the U that that you can see the access road on the left. Just before that there is a a seasonal wetland area or kind of more of a boggy area. I guess it's not really exactly wetland, but it's boggy area. And we would like to do something similar to what we did with the stream uphill. Next slide. by planting it out um and creating you know mulching it around that defining the beds having carefully selected red nose or dogwood and the skunk cabbage and same kind of aesthetic so that we have a similar u movement of of um species as we go down a hill. All right and the next slide will be taking us to hole three. So hole three's fairway looks like this currently. Um it's got the same seasonal stream. It's part of the same wershed. It's got its own miss areas, its common landing zones. Um, we have difficulties keeping disc golfers out of the city stream, slippery and unsafe. All the same issues that we have

with hole two. And we want to be replanting this and and creating foot bridges over these sensitive areas for all the same reasons that we did on hole two. So, next slide. It could look something more like this. So, these foot bridges um on this hole in particular are already kind of sketched out with these like composite tiles that we've laid out to in an effort to go over these these muddy areas, but we could build these foot bridges out fairly easily. And what that would do is just carry us over and allow the the stream to move, allow the uh the pathway to be safer and less muddy. Uh, next slide. There we go. So, our next slide, this slide is their foot bridge design. It has actually a couple of variants on it. We don't always have to put a twoft cement footer. This would be for the muddiest areas like the pond and hole one. We could do um deck footers that are cement for areas that are a little bit more dry and compact.

So, like a pure block, you're saying? Yeah. Mhm. Just like pureb it would be easy to do. It be affordable to do and it would I calculated this out very specifically to be able to effectively and efficiently use lumber without any waste. So they're basically five foot spans going it's 5 foot wide bridge with two 4x4s on either side of it. It gives you gives the disc golfer a 4 foot five inch wide path. Two people could walk pretty close side by side on that maybe. Um and then there's no more than an eight foot span um on the on the bridge between footers. And with all the 2x4s and the 4x4s, it should be more than enough to keep the the bridge uh stable, especially at the heights we're talking about, which are like 6 in, you know, or so. It's not very um the all these materials I assume and assume because I haven't asked yet can be easily donated by box stores like Home Depot or Lowe's. You maybe find some of this stuff from localized lumber uh stores and and providers. I chose pressuret treated wood for a couple of reasons. One is it's easily uh found. It's easily replaced. It's easy to work with. It's nothing uh native where we're having to like cut lumber from, you know, local source and shape it correctly and all. It's just go get the lumber, replace the board. Um and then we've added clear paint with a grit additive in it to minimize slippage. So, it is a slippery shady course. Um it's going to get slippery in the winter. With the clear paint and grit additive, that will help us keep it nice and stable. And uh next slide. So, I'm encouraging the commission to adopt the uh Kitap County crew lead uh certification and training. Um this is

on page 17 of the Kitsap County Parks Department handbook. I I know Brian is familiar with that. I'm sure you're probably already working on that, but I I encourage the commission to adopt this. I think it would be really helpful for all of our parks, not only Nad Park, but um the Forest Ridge Park or any uh other efforts over here with Joner Trails to allow uh crew leads to be trained so that we can use power tools and um use them safely and also work with crews and have people designated in the event of an emergency. Next slide. That's available online.

Yeah. Yeah. It's on It's available online. So, we are um Ian is the tournament director for this uh this tournament, but we are running a tournament in u April of this year for Earth Day with the world's only 100% recycled disc golf manufacturer, Trash Panda, hence the Trash Panda Challenge. Um the owl represents Nad Park. The great horn owl represents Nad Park because we do have an owl there and it's our mascot in NAD. And then trash panda is represented by the trash panda or the raccoon, also known as raccoon. And it's a one round fundraiser tournament supporting the ecological work of the NAD restoration project. We're hoping for 50 players and we're partnering with Trash Panda. There will be tournament prizes, raffle, donation opportunities for players. All this will be um accounted for, documented, and presented to the commission after um in the April meeting. so you know how much we've raised and what we'll be putting back towards the park. 100% of the proceeds from the tournament will go towards the park uh for the restoration and finances, as I mentioned, will be documented. The really fun part of this is that Trash Panda doesn't dye their discs. They don't hot stamp their discs with with foil, which is one of the things that we do to make our disc colorful. Instead, they emboss or ghost stamp their discs. And this is our logo that we're going to be using for it, or our graphic that we're going to be using for the disc. So each player will have a commemorative desk to go uh with their their tournament. Next slide. So I'm asking for your support and first of all, thank you for your continued support, all the emails back and forth, the time that you've given me um taking me around to the boneyard. Tim, thank you. Um Brian, thank you for all your help. Glad getting things organized. It's just been incredible to to work with you all and I'm very thankful for not only the support, but the enthusiasm for this project. It's been awesome. So, we're focused on a very simple design,

something that's easily maintained over the years. So, 10 years down the road, if there's a new lead, somebody can come in, they look at it, and they know what to do. They don't need an instruction manual. It's very clear what's what's happening. We're asking for your support in the designs and the proposals that we proposed tonight. And we're committed to the volunteer portion of this uh for the restoration of the course by 2030. We're also again very committed to keeping this extremely affordable. So we're not asking the city for any money and we're not asking our community for any money. That being said, that could be confusing why we're having a tournament with donation opportunities. What I'm proposing is we're not going to the community and just asking for money. There's always a give before we ask. And in this case, this is a a pretty common, uh, event that we do with, uh, challenges from dis different disc golf manufacturers. So, uh, we're asking for your support so that we can continue to do that so we can keep it affordable, keep it simple, and restore this park and get back to beauty that that it is.

Thank you. Wow, that was Thank you, Chris. Questions. Are there any questions? So, um I I'm not sure as our role as commissioners if we recommend that we allow the parks departments to go forward with this. We technically can't approve it on our own other than giving recommendations if if I'm reading my role correctly. Is that correct? Correct.

Yeah. So, um, an adi Yeah. Your group of advisory. Yeah. And so, what I talked with Chris about is at at a minimum if if the commission was supportive of the project, head nods, consensus, those types of things are great.

Okay. I agree. I'm really happy to see you guys working on this because I know, you know, earlier comments that park was getting pretty well beaten up from all the use. Um, I have a couple concerns, but they're not they're really not in my area of expertise other than the bridge design. I think your 4x4 uses crap. Okay. I think you should at least I would use a 4x6, but I would use a 4x You're going to have a tree fell on a 4x4 is just not going to last you very long. Okay. 8 foot span. Yeah. Yeah. You get me and another big guy jumping on that thing. Well, I'm open to I'm open to working with the city.

I don't think a 4x4 thing in a way. Okay. Just seen those things. Um, hole three, I definitely would be in favor of one path versus multiple paths. I think keeping the paths down. There's there is one path of three. Yeah. You said you could do two. Oh, to Oh, to whole one. Maybe it was. Yeah, I said I know what you're talking about. You said you could do two and that's Yes, the pathway from whole one to whole three. Sorry, I was thinking about whole three itself. Okay. Yeah, the whole Yeah, you said I could do this one or we can do two of them. Yeah,

I would just be in favor of two one versus two. Okay. And there was a lot of bridging around the pond and I don't know um I'm not touching that but it sounded like a wetland and ecology work to me. It's it's not I I don't know maybe I mean an ecologist would be able to tell us about that but it's uh being that it's not a perennial wetland. Yeah. It doesn't stay wet. It actually dries up in summer. Yeah. They'll find a fish in it again. Okay. Um, with all that said, I, you know, I'm definitely giving you my project and let the other commissioners speak, but

Well, I'm just really glad to see you guys here again and your persistence and continued commitment to the park. Um, I think that that as a commission, we at the very least want to get out of your way. Amen. And And I appreciate the opportunity to give an endorsement. I certainly do. Thank you. Mr.

Yeah, I would second that. I mean, there's still there's been so much thought into how do we do renovation in this park in a way that works with the ecology there shortterm and long term. And I really appreciate that. And um like the other fishers have said, I'm not an expert in these areas. So when I saw the bridge design, I'm like, five feet wide enough. I don't know. But I think that our more um knowledgeable park and wreck one employees would be able to yeah enlighten you as to what probably would be the best design there. But I'm very supportive of all the work you do and appreciative. Thank you.

I as well very impressed and I I do approve of it as well. Thank you very much. One quick absolutely. Uh the efforts that Chris is putting in are really trailblazing and um we're putting Burton ahead of pretty much most of the disc golf country. He was showing us that he put into chat GPT. Uh you want to go ahead and say that because that's pretty amazing. Yeah.

So we've been at this project proposal in what June last year. We just started our work parties in in November and maybe Chad GPT has my algorithm or something, but I asked it for restoration efforts and organizations throughout the country to network with and we were at the top of the list of we were actually the only restoration project and organization mentioned under restoration efforts which was really cool. Um so even though we don't have a web page, even though we have a very young Facebook page, um we're already we're already there. And I, you know, I know the three of us quietly chat about how cool this project is and what kind of recognition can be brought to Breton for this effort. And it I know it it sizzles our veins. Like we're really excited about it. And um I I have a feeling that in the next year I want to start making an effort to go to some of these disc golf course design conferences and um work with them on maybe potentially presenting in the offseason of next year.

Awesome. Thank you. As a lifelong Breton Pot County native say guy I know he's kind of new around here but but we really appreciate him. I have pictures of my couple swings when I was not sport. So, uh, it's definitely near and dear to my heart. I really, we really appreciate that. Thanks, Jess. Any other comments?

So, the only thing I'll I'll add is that just so you're aware, Chris is in constant contact with us. He's not just going rogue necessarily all the time. Um, so what Chris and I talked about is as this project moves forward, especially the next couple years, we'll probably have him come back every quarter or so, uh, just provide an update. So then the commission's aware of what's going on. Um, we've also worked together for donation letters and other things. So we'll be supportive of the group as as um, West Sound and and the local group wants to go out and try to fund raise. We're we'll be here to help obviously as much as we can. And as you know, the less general fund support we need, uh, the better, uh, things are for everybody. And especially looking at long-term, uh, maintenance of this, too. Um, keeping that and maintaining that partnership with those local users is going to be huge for us.

And I do want to thank Tim for the he gave us a voucher letter essentially. He said we are working with city even though we're not a 501c3. Uh we will be making efforts in the spring um to work with the Kep community trust to form ourselves as a 501c3 through that organization. Um and then we have a donor perspectus which is a donation letter to or a donor letter basically asking for donations that we have drafted and we're currently working on and that should be done by probably midmon next month. So we'll see you on the great give day. Your name on the list then right? Oh yeah. Yeah,

this is exactly the thing that I really I really am excited about because you know working with you working with them and things. This is you know involving community. It's being good beyond the park involving community and ownership for the parks. You have a group that's that's working that cares and it's a great model to try to use parks and I just this is one of the things you you brought in from your previous job. Yeah. Yeah. The enthusiasm is contagious. Yes. that it's

well especially too and we're going to be we're going to be discussing probably maybe next month a little bit more Stephenson Canyon but looking at some activation opportunities there too with the district too um and their their uh council representative as well uh with trail maintenance and and just providing more access and making it more welcoming. People don't even know it even Yep. couple of those places on the trail are a little slippery. Yes. Yes. Very. Yeah.

Street. You guys are welcome to go unless we want to stick out. Thank you again. not with the new password that was put out agenda. So my

Yeah, my understanding is that what um so was council sent out a new link from Zoom here. Yeah. commission. Was the commission sent out a new um Zoom link for you to be able to log in if you weren't if you needed to be remote to view the meeting? Think I could.

Yeah, because when we were looking at putting it online, what's online on the city's website should be the correct one. I'm not sure if this may not be um because I was double-checking last Thursday with Dave to make sure because I I had a freak out moment because I hadn't really done it much before and I was like, "Okay, can the gentleman because I've heard of issues in the past. Um can the general membership log into the same um video?" And he said, "No, the commission members should have received a separate video login." Um okay. Correct. Yeah. I just

that's on the agenda. That's okay. Is that the 874 addressed by was your wife? Oh. Uh oh. Oh, okay. Yeah, we'll have to figure out make sure that that's we'll we'll check it against the website. We'll have to figure that. Okay. Okay. No, it's a good Yeah, like I said, I about 20 minutes. Use my parents to see if I can get into it.

Yeah. So, this link on our agenda is the same. No, it should be different. Yeah, we'll get it figured out. Dave, was there anything that you wanted me to pull up? I did print off these. Can you pull up the plan? I will see what I can do. I had to restart my computer. I had everything all dialed in and ready to go. And then because I did that, then the computer decided, well, let's mess with you.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like every time.

Okay. Next item. Okay. Blue beam is what it is. Um actually right now um have you folks seen any of it at all? Yes. So it's in that um it started life out as a fixing water and oh we could do it. The PDF was was it wasn't the whole thing though was it? Yeah, I don't think so. It's I've got it here.

We're going to take one out and abandon that apartment building up and uh at the end of the week. No, it should be whatever's on the website. I don't think it's a formal part should be correct. It wouldn't be on the agenda.

And so we're sorry. So And that's right adjacent to the No, here we go. It's one street on Shore Drive. Yeah. Okay. Because you know there's there a vacant that was new construction new construction there planned. There it is. Yeah, there it is. Okay, that's the part I'm thinking about. Yeah. Oops.

So, what you're looking at, this is our call it 30% complete plans from the consulting engineers and um wanted to bring it for you commissioners and and and park staff um to get comments. So now's now is the time for big thing big changes that from what was showing you. So to paraphrase what I think you said there there isn't an outfall here now. There is there is an outage pipe. So you're going to replace that with a bigger outfall and connect the other uh storm storm water. Is that what it is? That's that's the storm water improvement.

Okay. Since we're out following that park, we're going to improve the park at the same time. Okay. Um because right now the beach has got some concrete level and it has a drop off this from erosion. Um can you scroll down to Sure. So we we have to do a lot uh to get uh inwater work permits. Uh, and that includes basically complete reconstruction, remove all the rubble and try to create as natural beach as we can.

And it'll be great because you can't walk down there now, right? We're make we're making sure like this the steepest grade is 4 to one just to walk down and access the beach. Um, yeah, if there's anything in particular you want me. Yeah, the site plan is towards the back. Does it have a name? There we go. We can name it. Everybody know. All right. Can I Can I I'm going to point. Absolutely. Jump on up here. Engineers like to draw, too. So, we've got a board over there.

So, so the parking stall you see here, it were generally replacing what's there in behind. And we talked with with Colette um and you know there was an idea maybe you're getting rid of the parking. Hey because a lot of people just walk in the neighborhood but we we found out that your maintenance vehicles that parks maintenance or Yeah. Yeah. pull in with a trailer. So that kind of said well you gota you got to provide access for that. So replacing parking. This is a a concrete paver that you can plant grass in in the inter between the in the middle of the cells.

Um what they're calling a sperm block something like that. Um so that called grass. It's a grass anyway. So we'd like comments on that. Uh, I propose to irrigate it because grass has a hard time growing in it. We've got a water irrigation meter right here. So, that's that's low hanging fruit.

Um, this this rectangle here is a concrete box with a with a um baffle in it. So the storm water hits that energy is dispersed and then it's this is a a great and then the water is water is just kind of dispersed onto this pad. We'll call it a scour pad, but it's generally going to look a lot more fish friendly than a than a rip wrap pad. It's going to be rounded cobbles and and small boulders. Um and then we got to protect the neighboring property. So there is some angled rock and I'd like this proposal actually from from our engineers because this is steep and we need to make sure that the these retaining walls are protected. I think we're going to get fisheries to a degree because we're doing a lot of mitigation. For instance, there's a bunch of rip wrap down on the beach we're going to pick up and haul off in addition to what the concrete rubble that's there right now which is going to go away. Um, I think planning out um I think this hatch is lawn. Um, I thought maybe it would be great to just have a path and bunch of shrubs, but uh lawn has survived and so far unless you want to make it smaller, which we can do, right? This is the like I said, this is the time to blow anything up. So instead of lawn because you'd have to mow it then if you just had bark or something to

I for me um you know from an ecological standpoint we typically have to do mitigation planting on the at the riparian area. So I I was like yeah let's do get as many repair mitigation points as we can. We won't get anything for long. So it's quite possible we have enough other mitigation rock removal that will be fines. Uh thing there's two uh picnic tables of accessible. One of them is sitting on top of the concrete energy dissipator. Thought that was good low hanging fruit because it's kind of like a platform and then there'll be a pedestrian rail for fall protection.

And there's no services installed with this. No bathroom, no drinking fountain, anything like that. But there's two tables. There's two. I think there is. But where is um just on the U shape? the water would end because there's just going to be this is a this is like a block wall. There's about a two three foot drop as the gray transitions down. So, we got a little drop there.

The first two picnic tables need to be accessible. So, we would need to have a pathway to get to the and that's concrete hatch here. So, accessible parking stall. Here's the um aisle way of aisle and then um and these are just lines right now. So where's the other parking? Where's the rest of the parking lot? Just right adjacent to you saying well what it what it is is it's a it's a plantable parking area.

Okay. So essentially the the substructure is there but then you put grass material inside of it so you can part on it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was just going to be lawn.

Did this park come to be and how did it survive not being developed that along that road? Well, it's park apartment property, so it's the city can't sell it without the council. I guess it just never I mean, I knew it was

that's kind of what it looks like now. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Thanks. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Technology. I just had Brian email me a picture that he found on Google Earth. Perfect. Our popular is will be irreparably damaged the installation of of a concrete vault. So we'll be moving it and replacement with two trees currently shown as Gary Oaks. Now that was the consultant last architect's proposal. I personally think that might be a little big. So by all means let's I I it would be great if we could just help consult plan. They don't they don't really care.

Yeah. Because especially for two of them, it would be tight. Um so the the post plan says that it's actually a rideway street in which is interesting. That's what it says here. But it's on the parks protection act as a park. I don't really know, but it says it was developed in 1984 through partnership with adjacent neighbor one acre. Is that what you have? I don't got to be about close. Yeah. Not very big. I would think I just keep the open view creating access to the water.

It would have like a ramp so people that are kaying something access into there. That be nice. Waterways trail. Yeah. That be nice. Um so uh it's we internally it's um our comment round for internal comments through the end of next week. I don't know how you do this. Can are you able to folks able to offer comments up that you could compile? Yeah, we could send them to Tim. Yeah. Yeah, we can. Yeah. So, they can't reply to everybody, but they can send comments to me and then we can compile them.

And then maybe if you have got some ideas on tree, some tree species, so we can just kind of dictate what might go in there. Make sure the right type of trees there. Well, now I want to go and see. Yeah. Yeah. It's on that oneway stretch down there. I I will say that there was a sidewalk originally leading to the spark. It was removed. We just have a shoulder now. So yeah. Um and and the idea is that someday maybe in some future upper shore drive will be clos.

You didn't hear it from me. Let's just talk. Upper Shore Drive really doesn't see a lot of traffic. One concept is that that walking trail then there are actually and then uh this would still be a oneway road though. Yeah. Ling and I believe is this all with the Manette sewer replacement project this complete summer. Um uh so you know all the work that went on Perry recently read this record. Well

some storm water from Perry was um shunted to the Bachman outfall instead of where it was going. I think it outfalls on top of 18th or something at that anyway. Okay. So, Bachman Bachman out turns out not doesn't have enough capacity. So, we were seeing some flooding at the intersection and

it's where that new three unit apartment building is. So this that's how this project came about really is that that capac storm water capacity and then uh we're retrofitting um treatment in so we're going to do storm water treatment and and because of that we got a department of ecology white water quality grill that's paying for oh no I'm mixing project this is a grant project but it's not a college it's one stimulus. It's the first stimulus bill American I thought American recovery

so construction of the 2030 um we have to spend the money by town 26 way ecology works park project it's been slow um that park no That's our but it got caught. So I um so the current slope at the end of the lawn there going down at the water. Do you know what that is currently? It's very steep. So I just want to um kind of because I don't know if everyone's really used to reading the plan. So the contours get pulled up. So the park actually is going to get

shrunk shrunk in size but it's going to increase the access down to the water. Um so I think it's a it's a net benefit of getting because the park itself doesn't have a lot of recreation value the footprint itself is the access to the water and that's what will be they wouldn't let us spill to make the slope.

Yeah. Um and then as far as that's always one of those things where it's it's just easier to maintain than than Um, so you know, another op an option would be to do like a ground cover or something. It's such a a small area, but again, that's going to help weeds. It's just easier to it's easier to move on than to to leave maning area. So, um, my experience the end product, it was better. Is the parking area then it pvious?

Yeah, the it would be pvious. Yeah. And so by making that I really like that as an option of the arena lose a lot there. So now the foreground is going to look green. Yeah. And so the lawn that we lose the street with that that makes sense. Seems just going to be a path on the right side on the west side for ADA accessibility. Is that where it would be or? Yeah. Right here. part state. Okay. Yeah. And would there be a line that all like be the same surface

going to be that all be the same grade? The line is for us be able to distinguish. But um that will be a joint line.

Well, it looks like it's going to be a nice place to go. Does the popular have any good story? Do we know anything about the planet and how long it's been there and all this good stuff? I just don't want any historic significance.

Does it have a plaque on it? Yeah. Is there a plaque on it or under it? I just curious because great drop it in the water used to be able to fall als butt in first. I say optimistic that that tree doesn't have any a lot of public desire to keep it. Poplers fall anyway. Yeah. So that so the resident on the left should be happy.

Of course prevailing weather is this way. They're calling widow makers cut intend to sleep. Yeah, but we do have an arburous memo. When are we going to get there'll be a secret? Do you think this is greatation? Sure. Or you mean is this counts? Yeah.

Would you normally have a community meeting with them? Yeah, we would normally notify the people living around the park to let them know that. Yeah. And this is in Jeff Coughlin's district. Yeah. So I would almost say take on to one of his district meetings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I will do that. We've done like for um Ten Park when um we were doing the public process during 2020 CO is that we just did a we put up made a sign and put up the park of the concept and ask for public feedback that way. So that way people walking through the park could see the concept

which have park. Is that all you do? Um, we also had u meetings here, but that was one pretty high-profile park though. Did you invite residents to Oh, yeah. They came and they chose their playground. It was kind of Yeah, we've had several. They went well. Um, reach out to Jeff. The other option is just have have one of them here. Like I said, just put up pictures and open house kind of thing and let people have comments. Yeah. Could I use a space?

Good job. Yeah. Either that or if you're wanting neighbors to go, we could probably figure something out at the senior center maybe. Oh, yeah. It's closer. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't thought about that for some reason, but Yeah. because you'll you'll at least probably have neighbors that are interested to see what's going to happen because as you say, it's it's accessed a lot by by foot. That's where we might find out.

The other thing if it happens being significance of plaque and a new tree reminds people of that where it's forgotten now. The the tree that the oak tree that's on the uh next to the manette bridge that's was planted in the schoolyard of the first school county. And um so I mean somebody might say well this was an early homestead and it was planted in my my greatgrandparents home or who knows what. So, well, I can think of two things here from a homeowner's perspective is either A, they'll be really excited to have this tree gone

or B, they really like the shade. Yeah. We give them another sense. Do we have Well placed? I would think the people above would be glad to see it down because it's knocking the heck out of their view. Yes. Do we collect comments or complaints or whatever from people uh that live adjacent to uh Bachmann Park there? I wonder that would that would kind of arm us to the type of things that people might have concerns about like parking late at night and whatever. I mean just preparing ourselves for public meetings. Yeah.

Well, that happens now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we're not changing the the parking use of it either e either. Really? But I think Bachman's probably more of a target for that. It's a lot easier to access. You guys done with me? How wide is the park? Well, you can count those are probably nine. Was that 50 feet? Nine in a crosshatch. Looks great. 50 60 feet.

I mean, I I love Gary Oaks. I think that it would look really cool having one on that side. I think it should just be positioned like more in the center and then um limming up the the canopy so that you can see underneath it. They're just such cool trees. They're really sculptural and it would look really good. A Gary Oak. Gary Oak. So, I'm not I'm in favor of a Gary Oak, just not where they currently are. Maybe just one bit of water in you've got Yeah. Because it's the canopy is going to be like this. I've been I looked it up and it's still varying on how wide they say it goes. Yeah. Yeah. But it would be a cool specimen.

Yeah. They're happy on the shore salt air and all that. And if it's centralized and you're not worried as much about systems. Let me let me just tell you I want here must be done. Don't give options. Just say this is the Yeah. Okay. That's that's why your comment is you know make the comments now so we can get it in the plan the way we want it instead of trying to retro back and fix change something. Yeah. Exciting. Yeah. Really? It's nice to be think. [Music]

Thanks for coming, D.

All right. I won't run through it, but the survey I've taken everybody's comments, so thank you for providing those. Um, I've entered it into Survey Monkey. And so then the rest of this week, we'll be working on um getting that uploaded either Friday or this Saturday. And then the plan is to have that survey up and available uh for people to fill out until did we say midappril. We're going to talk about it in May. So we'll basically have it up. I was saying six weeks, but I meant 10 weeks. Another month because I started to do the math. It was like beginning of February to mid-Marchch. No, we wanted to go two and a half months. So, and and so then we'll be working on a marketing plan um as well for this. And um we're not necessar and I'll get into that a little bit later um as far as what what the steps will be for us working through the pros plan. Uh but for the survey, uh we'll get that uploaded onto the website through social media starting this Friday or Saturday. and then just make sure everybody knows that they have until midappril to get their comments in. Um, but with that too, I'll be going to different uh district meetings and promoting it as well uh with with the council members and and throughout the city for the next two and a half months to get that feedback. So then we can start implementing that as we go through the different chapters of the pros plan. I'd show it to you. looks great, but it just looks like a survey online. Nothing exciting. Uh, it'll take about uh I think it's about 23 questions or so. Um, says it would take about 14 minutes. So, about 15 minutes is what I'll promote to people. um tried to get it as as detailed as we

can without being too detailed and providing too much information, but also mixed up the way that you respond to questions to kind of make it not so consistent throughout. Um so different formats and matrix type type ways of looking at the questions. So then you're not just filling out a ABCD for 15 straight questions. So kind of interchange things a little bit and categorized them. So continue the review and

Sure. Yes. Um so in your packet we provided you a um I think I stopped sharing. Yeah. Uh in your packet we provided you hard copies because at least Colette and I like to write on things. Um, so provided you a hard copy of what our topic of discussion will be for next month. Uh, so we will be discussing regional and community parks at our February 25th meeting. So what we'd like you to do is to look through this section that we've provided you. We we've broken it out the whole pros plan into different um discussion topics throughout each of our months for the next year. Um, so then we're not hitting heavy um, every month on things, but it also gives us another opportunity to promote each month what topic area we're discussing. So if the public wants to come and make comments about their local neighborhood park, they have that opportunity as well. Um, so kind of get us that citizen feedback as well outside of the survey um, to be able to help us um, fine-tune and look at these things. So, on the staff side, what we'll be doing is uh Colette, Brian, and I and Carlos, who's our parks lead, uh, every week we're meeting on, we will be meeting this week on Friday, but every week moving forward, it'll be Thursdays, and we'll be going out. So, this next month we're going to focus on uh regional and uh community parks. And so, we'll be doing our own inventory of the parks. And so, we'll be updating and making our comments. And then again next month we'll sit down with the group and talk about what our findings were and then get feedback from from this group as well um and then move on to the next topic for the following month and

provide you another handout next month for the the following month's topic. So Tim, based on the handout, are you looking for us to go just through here or just in general about regional community? Yes.

Yeah. So, so focus on um looking at I mean we'll talk we'll we'll look at details verifying information um you know what we have as the inventory. We'll take care of that unless you want to go. I mean, I encourage you to go out and visit all of the parks as well. It'd be a great way to get out and look at them. Uh we'll talk about, you know, management issues. Those are types of things. Um but looking at like improvement recommendations, those types of things. What do we think is realistic? You know, what was noted last time and what what was realistic and what wasn't or what's changed. you know, there's different things that we'll probably be um recommending that didn't really exist six years ago, new concepts and ideas uh that we'll want to look at as well as far as trends are concerned.

I looked at it on the computer, but it's fun to have it in your hand. Yeah, I like to I like to write on things. That's the question. I'm labeling this as homework. Yes, that would be homework. And if you need a reminder, I'll give you a reminder. Yes.

Mhm. I'm still hitting a few spots I haven't made it to yet. So, this is going to be great. Oh, okay. On to new business. Um, yeah.

Yeah. So, just moving on. So, this is uh your calendar for the next year. So, you've got your dates that you can block out and plan to be with us. Uh, but also what I did here, you notice this is what I used to break out what our discussion topics for each of those months are going to be. So, um, regional and community parks in February and neighborhood parks and pocket parks. Uh, some of them like April, uh, lots of words, but, um, hopefully it's not going to be a a super huge discussion on those. Some of those are fairly small pieces. And then, like I mentioned, uh, we'll we'll complete the surveying midappril. And then we'll assemble all of the responses and the comments and we'll plan in May then to discuss the survey results and how we plan to utilize those and implement those into the plan. And then that kind of leads us after we've hit those sections and to our our goals, objectives. So really kind of starting to wrap our heads around everything and and what direction do we want to move forward. Um yeah, then talking the needs analysis and then our action plan which um is tied to our capital our capital facilities plan and then um get into um kind of compiling everything, reviewing our draft plan uh in uh September for a approval of the draft plan from the commission. So then we can move it forward uh to the state level for their review required reviews. Uh the whole timeline is set up with an election year this year. Uh we have four council positions that are up for election. Um I know of at least one that's not going to rerun, one that's going to run for mayor. Um so there's could at least be two possibly. Well, there there will be two um new positions

and then the other two, as far as I'm aware, are kind of undecided at this point. But I really wanted to since this is such a heavy plan, get it in front of council before this council is gone.

So then we're not having to kind of start over in January and and try to explain and and then we're 6 months in and all of a sudden, you know, we've lost time. So try to we kind of are fast forwarding it a little bit. Uh but we think it it can be accomplished. So then we can try to get everything approved through council by December, end of December. So, and that's kind of that last we don't know when we'll meet. We usually decide when we hit um October when we'll meet for that combined November, December. And it might have to be timed based on uh again if there's any last minute reviews that we'll need to do with this plan. Um but uh we'll have council two public hearings with council on December 3rd and 17th uh prior to their approval.

This looks good. Gives us our Yeah, kind of a road map.

Comments on Glad to be here.

And Ben's not here, so uh the city council asked for regular updates from the commission. Um, and I know that he went to a commission meeting and I think another commissioner joined him for that. It wasn't me. Yes. Was you? No. No, Greg did. Greg did. Okay, great. Um, so I don't know if that were on their agenda uh or if there thoughts about what the regular regular the regular interval of that would be, but that might be something for us to think about.

Um, And again I think you know the invitation and you know it was Ben that went as our chair so they regularly scheduled yes it was during session and I don't think they ask for any you know specifically want to hear from you every order Um

yeah in the we want to have that I see that as a way of communicating kind of assuring the support for parks. Yeah. So and I think it should be in coordination with our park staff. So, yes. Um, but I didn't want it to just fall to the wayside because it was a request that they made to us.

And I can I can reach out um to council too and kind of ask what they're what they would like to see because that's one thing I I did see from from watching past meetings was um the the need for communication. and obviously they support everything that we do um and very supportive of our park system. Not always financially, but at least supportive of what we're trying to accomplish. Um but one of the other things that I noticed too that we were lacking in is we were the only department that wasn't a part of a committee that had council members to review. And so that was kind of one of those um one of those areas where um it you know if it wasn't discussed outside of the commission meeting then it wasn't getting discussed anywhere. And so, um, actually right before this meeting, uh, councelor Coughlin, um, reached or sent me a message and they had a committee meeting today and he recommended that we become a part of that committee. And so he and I are going to talk a little bit further. And there's

um, it's the finance, revenue, and parking. So, not necessarily things that are parking. Yeah. Okay. Parking. Finance. Yeah. Finance, investment. Finance, investment, and parking. So, I'm cool with finance and investment being tied to parks. Why not?

Um, but uh yeah, so at least it sounds like and he's he'll make he and I will talk and then probably make a recommendation. Uh but I think that that's to me one of the the uh areas that um for the last couple years uh parks hasn't been tied to a committee. Um and nobody seems to know why necessarily what happened or how we got dropped. Um yeah,

at least for council to hear more often from us. And I did talk to one of the council members there. We were talking about this car about it's going to aid in the flow. I think it's 11th and naval um for people who are working the shipyard to come and go more easily. Um and she you know I don't know if they need all that room. Maybe there's an opportunity for a little pocket park there. But uh I think if you're part of a committee where these sort of things are coming up because obviously there's

there's a monetary involvement and commitment and funding there. It just creates opportunities to have those conversations or Yeah. So I'll I'll check with uh the council and the mayor and see if there's a regular time frame. I'm not sure if every six months would be good for this group or 3 months seems to come often, but we could do that at least for the time being until they start hearing more. Yeah.

And then I to ask I think we have some vacancies of this commission. So I didn't know if you have any status about that or if there's any way we as commissioners can assist in getting out the word uh for interested community members. Absolutely. Yeah. Uh we have one one um vacancy and the seats don't necessarily represent certain areas, but technically it's seat number two that's vacant. Kristen.

Yeah. Um but uh yeah, and I've talked as I've met with people in the community, I've let them know that we have an Oh, I'm glad you want to get involved. Hey, we have a commission opening or a spot open on our commission. And so I try to fit it into just common conversations I'm having with people that are showing interest. Um so if yeah, if anybody can um if you have anybody that uh does have interest or um is is assisting with our parks.

Oh, absolutely. Yep. Yeah. And they can reach out to me if they have more questions. Um information is all online, but we can also send them the the form to fill out, too. Yeah. Do we know of anything any status on Commissioner Riley? We don't. We talked about that uh today and I'll reach out and see what's going on there. Y he's still right. I do not surpris you been commenting. So

now going on the recent Dan we did homelessness activity. Oh before Brian starts can I go back here because I I wrote myself a note. I wanted to try to figure out how I would remember it and so I just put it on our agenda instead of just a start time. I put an end time too. So I want to try to keep us to about an hour and a half um at meetings because otherwise it's just going to drag on as we're past an hour and a half but

but we had a couple uh major presentations today. But yeah, an hour and a half and we were talking as far as cuz some of these topics that we'll have for the pros plan could get pretty lengthy and so we'll try to keep it as tight to a timeline of an hour and a half as we can just so you're aware. So unless there's objections and people want them to last longer, that's what our goal will be. So you're telling me that you want me to condense what I have to say? Yes. Okay. Okay. You're at you're at negative five minutes.

Some of the impacts uh that are happening within our park system in uh 2024. um the you know to go over a few you know I'm just going to go through a few parts uh just to kind of paint a picture of what park staff are dealing with

um as well as u public works and a few other departments um right here at Sheridan I'll start off um we've had campers up here in the woods and then we've also had them break into our layown yard across the street uh vandalize some stuff and they've used that as an encampment area there. Um, Warren Avenue, we're having some difficulties there um with vandalism of the rest at the park.

Um, people staying in the uh in the streets at night and vandalizing, trying especially when it gets cold, trying to break into restrooms, uh, breaking out lights, things like that just to kind of try stay in the dark. Um, Stephenson Canyon. This one's a This one's kind of a tough one to manage for us

because there's so many different trails and as we get reports and things like that, we'll go investigate, we'll take our pictures, we'll we'll see if um there's somebody actually staying there. But yet, generally when we get to a site, you'll see something else in the distance. And then that's, you know, that's another site that we report on. Um and then that that begins to clean up after uh we verify that there's nobody there. So um that that one's a little tough to manage, but as we kind of kick people out of um Stephenson, they'll go down to Lions Park and try to get into the restrooms there. Uh so I mean sometimes it feels like we're kicking the can back and forth. Um, but we do have a lot of good support with Common Streets and I'll get to that in a minute. Um, a lot of good things we spoke about tonight with NAB Park. Um, there's also some other things to report from the uh, damage and homeless end of things. Uh, we worked with the Washington State Department of Transportation to do a a fairly substantial size cleanup of Nad Park. Um, we punched a road in there and worked with Wash to get that cleaned up.

I saw that right below the sign above on the above High Lake Reef. Correct. There was about 13 encampments there. That was

so um the the uh on the lower Nad Park, we have an old bunker that is there. Um, we've had inhabitants that are that have been utilizing the area. Um, as weather gets better, uh, we're going to end up punching rodent in there and sealing that off. Um, trying to be a little preemptive, uh, going into the the summer months. The big ticket item that I was working on today was um, Pendergas athletic fields. We had some copper wire thefts. they have gone into our Musco lighting system and removed wiring um you know just to recycle and try to make a few bucks. That few dollars is turning into a larger figure and um just baseline of what we're looking at that we came up with today is somewhere between 35 and $50,000. This stuff we didn't budget for. Um so and that could grow exponentially too. Um this is just kind of a starting point for us and so we're going to have to see where that ends up. Um fountains that's a huge issue for us. Um simply because we have people using that as their personal shower facility to their own restroom to washing their clothes, things like that. water required to keep uh the pH levels up and things like that and that takes up a lot of uh staff time. We also had uh three employees who were assaulted this year down at the fountains in 2024. Excuse me. Um, and then there's like really two things I wanted to uh, well, one thing I want to drive home, but I wanted to also

make you aware that in 2025 there's something called the point in time count. And this is a collaboration between Kitup County uh, and other municipalities to where uh, there's teams that go out looking for these people and we're trying to figure out how many homeless folks we have within our communities. that is currently taking place starting today and will run through January uh 31st. Um with that we'll be able to pick up what we call like heat maps of where our large congregation of people are and then we could throw resources at that. Um the the toughest thing for us to swallow as a parks department that is not a large parks department and not a overly funded uh department is this really eats into our labor costs and our supplies. You know, replacing toilet paper, paper towels, vandalism. But we figure right now, this time of year, uh just depending on the day, 30 to 50% of our time is being dedicated towards uh homelessness um and and damage. And that's a substantial blow to uh this department as we turn a corner into spring. uh you know we have athletic fields and other responsibilities that we need to maintain as well. So it's going to be a very lean but balanced year. Um but there's a few numbers that I just wanted to share with you uh from the city of Breton and Common Streets. Um these numbers are show between January 2024 and uh January 2025. Uh there was 1,461 site visits that were made to different encampments.

Um 602 of those were meaningful connections. There was 188 uh connected to services. That's really what we're striving to striving to do is to get these people help and to get them out of the parks. Um 55 of those people uh went into shelter or found housing and 17 of them currently are in a plan uh or per week we're entering 17 people into a plan uh to transition those people whether that's through uh mental health issues, drug addiction or um you know whatever that particular person's situation is. So, uh, it's not a hot topic or a common topic that most people realize is what are those impacts of parks, but they're substantial.

And just kind of wanted to bring that up to you as well. Something to think about and chew on. Um, we all, I think, recognize the fact that we can use more money and we can use more staff and we can do bigger, better things. Um, but I want you to understand from a a uh maintenance manager's position where our uh resources are being allocated.

So that's brought Brian in to do the positive steps. Yeah. Um, are you guys familiar with Common Streets and the services that they provide? So the city just completed their first year partnering with common streets and um as our staff are involved we are connecting I mean 30 to 50% sounds like a lot but a lot of those times we're connecting common streets with these individuals or we're coming in after to kind of help with some clean up but they're heavily involved. I mean it would be much worse if common streets wasn't a partner of the cities right now.

Absolutely. Um, and they've been great staff to work with, every one of them that we've we've spoken with or or been out in the field with. Um, so we're hoping that the trends start changing uh moving forward. Um, and again, we talk about with with Stephenson Canyon and Nad Park opportunities for us to activate parks. Um, you know, forested areas should be, you know, quiet, pristine, and walkable. Um, but at the same time, we want to make sure that we do have people out utilizing our facilities and and making them available to them to try to help deter some of these things. Uh, we have some other ideas that we'll talk about, Stephenson Canyon specifically, uh, moving forward. some ideas that we've talked about in staff that could kind of activate some areas there, not necessarily in the trees, but uh that abandoned kind of culde-sac area that could bring more awareness and attention um and and push some people away from that area, which would be nice. So,

it sure has changed the dynamics of Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yep. Yep.

Right. Well, and every time you program something too and you're developing, you're look, you're thinking, you know, you're trying to think in terms of, okay, how how could I break this? How could I, you know, how could we fix this? You know, what what makes the most sense in in a lot of our park design work, um, it's too bad, but part of the game. Yeah. Sad, but [Music] um and one just opened in Port Orchard, big one. They're starting intake right now. But according to the national point and count that came out last month, Washington state has the other than California the largest number of people what they call living rough. So that has a direct impact on what you and your team are doing. So it's good for us to know that. It's good for our city council and our mayor to know that.

Thank you for letting us know the numbers. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. Are you ready to move on to our Haden Park project? Colette on the brighter issues. On the brighter issues. Take it away, CL. We're giving you something fun to talk about next month.

The kind of construction is really on hold at this point. We're waiting for the um restroom to be fabricated and the drawings for the restroom were actually just um approved by L and I at the state level this week. So, they got the green light from them to move forward and my understanding is that production um takes about a month and so we're anticipating it will probably be we're originally thinking around midFebruary but probably be more like March where it will be craned in from [Music]

um and but uh the latest development so these are some of the older um kind progress photos to either the months, September, October if we want to just jump right to January. Got to make slideshow difficult to get to. Yeah, I know. I forgot to share my screen. All right. All right. Let's let's jump ahead to January. So, yeah. Um, picnic shelter looks great. Curbing around the playground looks great. I'm actually

Yeah. to the side. Yeah, that's the the latest addition and new curb cuts up for the the corner. So, um yeah, things are things are moving ahead and um we're the contract for the playground was was just approved, so we're moving forward with that purchase. Um no more broken bottles found in there. Hopefully, we're just covering things up at this point moving forward.

So, it's at Lake Park. We're actually meeting um Brian and I are meeting with a contractor tomorrow to develop the punch list, but they're getting close to wrapping up as well. Um the boat launch and fishing pier are in. The seaw wall at the lake is in them. That's in the top upper leftand corner. Um the pathways leading up to the upland are just fantastic. The concrete pathways, I'm just so happy with them. Um they're going to leave the vis on the um on the um the ground there uh as a erosion control measure and then as a se separate phase we're doing the installation of the um irrigation and top soil and hydro seeding. It's not a good time of year to hydro seed anyway. So that will be its own phase. I think the next uh one shows the picnic shelter was just recently installed. The um the lower left leftand corner the outdoor shower was installed. And then this is the um the uh footprint for the playground at the upper level. So

Oh, exciting. Yeah. Yeah, that fishing pier is just such a cool um little bridge out too. And yeah, what's the dock surface? [Music] Is that wood? No, it's a like a thickened plastic. WDF light penetration like somebody do on fire. It took them two years to get it like set apart. Yeah, I don't think any of that will burn.

Yeah, it's really it's really kind of a cool design and it's got a grip to it. Um but you can also see through um yeah, super very nice feature. Yep. Thanks, Colette. Thank you. Yeah. that Tim given us a the ceremony square. You said you went. Yes.

Yeah. And I um before my computer had to get restarted. I was going to show you the layout, but we can talk about it um another month, but I was at the event too. Um what a fabulous event. They said about 500 people, which is probably true. Um so they had everybody gather inside the Roxy Theater. uh had a full um line of presenters. Quincy's brother was there. Um obviously the mayor spoke and a few others. Uh had a band that they assembled. Super cool band, played one song, everybody booed when they wanted to go away. So then they played an encore song cuz we're thinking, "Oh, you came here all, you know, you you assembled." And I think they probably had planned for that. But then they moved everybody outside and kind of did the ceremonial uh digging. But um if you haven't been on fourth, it looks vastly different.

Um you know, they will get landscaping and everything back in. But yeah, if you look down there, it doesn't even look like the same street right now. Um but the construction started about a week before the event last Monday um on MLK Day and it should be completed I think by the end of May is what they're hoping for. And so then I think they're going to start programming soon after that. Um but it's set up in a way that um ideally when events are going on um it'll be blocked off um for during those events essentially from where um Fairfield in is down to the four-way intersection at whatever Pacific. Yes, I'm still learning street names, but yeah. So down to Pacific, but be able to block that off. So then you can have a pedestrian corridor area. So we're working on the back end on on the staff side trying to figure out um you know, how do we make this a safe festival area? Um and looking at potentially expanding it beyond in the future. Um, and at the same time, we're trying to envision this space too as kind of our hub for when the World Cup is here. And we are uh one of the local fun zones um in Washington. We're going to be the closest fun zone uh to where the stadium is in Seattle. Um Everett's the the other one in this region. and the rest are around the state, but trying to figure out plans to activate that and and how do we um implement things uh within that district to to really kind of make it a hub of a lot of different activity. But um yeah, I don't know if you Amy, if you have anything else you wanted to to add.

No, it was a great it was a great event. I was really happy I won. Yeah, the street closed. That's a great idea. We were talking yesterday about that. Yeah. Yeah. Like as far as barriers. Yeah. Yeah. That we were talking about that as recent as yesterday. Um because with issues

Yeah. as a concern with vehicles trying to control vehicles but at the same time making accessible for fire uh engines and other things. Um we don't know for sure what that's going to look like. Um, most likely what we've talked what we talked the most about was uh removable uh ballards uh that go into sleeves. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm.

Yeah. Cuz just standard um you know um A-frame signs and things aren't going to stop. Um and so Ballards is kind of what we're we're talking about. We thought it would be really cool to have the ballards that rise up from underground, but then you've got all sorts of infrastructure you've got to deal with. But yeah, so so something will get figured out I think in the next couple months and be in place before it opens up. Paris a few years ago it dumpsters.

Yeah. Yeah. So should be um still kind of trying to figure out who's really going to take a majority of the lead with the programming of it. I think downtown business association probably will a fair amount. The city will be involved um throughout probably just trying to again figure out as far as moving forward. What what do we need to worry about as far as our staff time? Um who's going to be involved the maintenance side of it? Who will take the lead? Is it will it be parks, public works? So, a lot of that stuff we need to get figured out. Um, but should be a great um great project that that we'll be very happy for.

All right. And next is the charging station.

Yeah. So, I can just briefly talk about this. At last week's uh city council um study session, uh Pug Sound Energy and uh Tom Nucky with um public works um gave a little bit of a presentation about a project that uh PSSE is looking at moving forward with. They're looking at installing uh public um charging stations. So whether they're in uh parking lots or parks, public type spaces, um kind of using it as a demo project and looking at 10 different sites around town. So they've received feedback from staff on this, but then they'll be putting it out to the public uh for comments and review. Um the design is somewhat specific in the location of them because what these will be is these will be uh charging stations that will be kind of up on a pole and so you'll have to lower it down so it won't be at like a ground level where it could get hit by a vehicle. Uh but they would be paid paid for charging. Um, and then the pole has to be located where the line to connect wouldn't cross like a sidewalk or something. And so, you know, looking at some of our park areas, you know, we've talked and said, you know, these would be kind of great areas, but then you've got to find a pole that would work, too. So, it could be something like a long Evergreen uh Rotary Park. Uh maybe you're not even on the roadside you have designated spots that are marked. Um, also trying to be conscious of not taking up a lot of spots in a parking lot, too. Um, because if they sit and they're not getting utilized. Um, so a lot of different things that we're looking at, but that it's something that, um, they will fund the entire project. um revenue obviously would go to PSSE

for what they make off of it, but uh just an additional amenity or benefit that could be incorporated into some of our Y desert charted states. Yep. Yep. I've been working on it. We've got I don't know but it's a we got the grant we everybody paid 12,500 charging stations and they were tipping in they got within a day of hooking up to the transformer and the transformer didn't have any place to hook up

so had to go get and podcast is still hasn't reinstalled the new transformer which they committed to. We just tore up my first agreement. I just signed another one, but we're still working on it. It's been painful. Yeah, I I will buy at least a plug-in hybrid if we get these charging stations, but at the condo, there's no place to plug in without dedicated stuff. So, well, look at every grocery store. You know what's there?

And now, a report on the retreat.

Yeah. So, next uh not this Saturday, but next Saturday, um city council will have their annual retreat. Um they'll be at Gold Mountain at the golf course. Um directors and staff will be there. Brian is going to join me. Um I guess in the past, usually staff is just there to listen. Um, but Eric Younger has asked council to have uh topics to him by this Friday for him to decide what the agenda will be, but wants staff to be interactive. Um, so it'll be interesting to see what we end up doing, but again, it's looking at council priorities um for this year and moving forward. Um,

yeah. So, kind of see what what they u Yeah. What what types of things they want to discuss. And so I'll probably bring up um communication as well um if we have an opportunity to talk. What do they want to see? Um but also talk to a couple different council members about um what we can do to to make sure we're telling our story. Yep. But should be fun. We were I don't think we're allowed to go on the golf course, but uh it seems reasonable if we are just a phone call away if they need us. But Yeah, exactly.

You made it.