Fiscal Court - Regular Meeting

Good morning. We are live and we will call this meeting in the Boyle County Fiscal Court May 26, 2026 at 9 a.m. to order. And first thing we have this morning is our invocation and that is by Magistrate Harmon.

Let's pray. Father, we thank you this morning for the good rain. We thank you for time we can meet together as a physical court, take care of the county's business. Lord, we Help us to keep things in order and in a direction that we need to go to follow you. We pray for our voters and those that don't vote for us. We pray for all the people in Boyle County. Lord, we thank you for this opportunity. Forgive our sin in Jesus' name. Amen.

Amen. Thank you, Minister Harmon. Okay, this morning we have a special guest. We have McKenna Gooch. She is going into the 7th grade at Bull Middle School. And she is the daughter of Stacy Preston and Nathan Gooch. And she's also the granddaughter of Frank and Connie Preston. So welcome, McKenna. If you will come up, we will have you lead us in our pledge. And we'll follow right along with you, okay? I pledge allegiance to the flag

of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Awesome.

Awesome. You did great. All right. I've got a certificate for you if you want to come back up. This is for leading the fiscal court in the Pledge of Allegiance. And we're going to look at Miss Julie, and she is going to take our picture. Thank you for being here. Thank you all. Thank you. You all have a great day. You have a great summer. Thank you so much.

Yes, ma'am. Thank y'all.

All right. Minutes from the April 28th meeting are now ready if there's a motion to approve.

Make a motion to approve.

Mr. Killam, is there a second? Second. Mr. Bodner, any discussion on the April 28th minutes? All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. I should have said at the beginning, we are out two magistrates today. One is traveling and one is sick, so...

We do have a quorum, though.

We have a quorum. And we have been properly advertised. Yes. Okay. All right. Good deal. Moving right into our budget transfers. Ms. Shannon?

We have budget transfers in the amount of $193,099.

Make a motion to approve. Mr. Cullinan, is there a second? Second. Mr. Harmon, any discussion on the budget transfers? Seeing none, all those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Cash transfers?

I have cash transfers from the general fund to the road department for $50,000. From general fund to jail, $100,000. And from general fund to EMS, $100,000.

Okay, is there a motion to approve? I make a motion we approve. Mr. Bodnar, is there a second?

Second.

Mr. Cullen, any discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Thank you, ma'am. All right, now we have approve our bills. Ms. Elena. Good morning. Good morning.

All right, today's bill packet will total $312,745.62, and there are no add-ons. No add-ons. Is there a motion to approve?

second mr. Boehner second by mr. Cohen any discussion or questions on the bills Tate Hill that's our contractor for the bell tower architect sorry

part of a large lump sum of that is going to Pogue Engineering. It's going to be some of the design and stuff.

So it's under works.

Correct, yes.

Cool.

Yep. We also have Parsons Construction for the bike park.

And your Enterprise.

And Enterprise.

And that Enterprise is such a large payment this month because we did get an EMS vehicle in from L&W. And once it's been outfitted, we have to pay for half of the equipment up front for the outfitting. So that made a larger payment there.

And then EMS had some gelata software. Yeah.

The only other question I had is small, but it says two rooms for John Deere tractor. Says the vendor is central bank, correct?

Is that just on the credit card or yes, so some some vendors we can't pay with the check you pay if you order it online.

Cool.

All good questions and any other discussion. OK, all those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Any opposed nay? Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Okay, we're going to go back to some old business from a couple of meetings ago. And Recycling Director Angie Muncy has brought us the mowing contract.

Tried to make a mowing contract anyway. Tried to make a mowing contract. So my biggest question is, you know, first of all, was this decent enough or do we need to add more because, you know, Magistrate Ellis asked about the trash and garbage and debris and things like that. So I added both ordinances in that. As far as vids do, I mean, it comes down, do we just want one person or do we want a couple of contractors? You know, if one's... You know, this is left up to you, you know, it just, it's a problem. So, you know, I don't think it hurts to have two or three, you know, on the phone because it's not a business what you say, it's just, you know, call and say, hey, of course my one person is not here this morning, so...

On the one hand, low bid gets you the best contract. On the other hand, after the next few weeks when the sun comes out, we need three.

Well, and you're not really looking for the, it's the low bid as far as we are concerned because we are paying that contractor. But you know, I put in there, you know, they're going to get $75 just for calling them because They have to have something, you know, to even... A retainer. A retainer. But... I think it would be good if we had... Sometimes you've got to hit them. You know, we're going back to our ordinance now. You know, they're going to get away a little bit cheaper than we were doing it. But I ain't saying... I don't know. I know it's a situation. Sometimes you've got to get them in the pocketbook to hit them again because I have people that's constant. This is every year.

And we might have to consider in some way if we're successful in coming down from 419 to 305 as we were a year ago on gas, it will be to their advantage to have the higher fee. and reach a higher profit. So it gets a little complicated.

I think a rotation makes sense if you have more than one.

I think so. I think it's more fair as well because we do have so many vendors out there that do that. But at the same time, they're busy in a season like this. You know, they're going to be busy. I'd rather see three or four having it. My personal opinion.

On call.

because right now I'm dealing with about 15. Okay. You know, whether they do or they don't, you know, it's just, and the road department don't have time. You know, they're being yelled at to do something as much as I am, so we can only do so much. they're going to get a minimum fee of 75 that's the minimum that's that's what if that's what you all agree with i've just drawn up the papers yeah it's for you all to it's in the order that you like it so this is akin to chris i'm sure i've seen him he's went through them if they're legal not legal we had to replace a water line and the first 75 dollars

was regardless, comes and looks and goes away, or credits back for the first hour. So would they be crediting back for that first hour?

That would be left up to you. I would think no, not if somebody's gotta come all the way from Jason's end all the way down to Gravel Switch somewhere.

Makes sense.

I think if somebody's got to run them all the way down there to look, that they should automatically get that $75 off the top. That's just my opinion. I understand.

Whoever we pick needs to be registered with our tax administrator's office. Well, that's as well.

Did I put that in there? I don't know. I don't know if I did. It's a possibility if I did or I didn't. Probably bonded as well. Well, I think I've required them all to have maybe insurance in the workers' comp. Usually I do, so if I didn't, I will add that in there. I'll make sure.

It says proof of insurance.

Okay. I'm usually pretty adamant about that, but...

So we would have to fill in the...

additional amounts for extra acreage and I think it would have to bid for so many my ideas to put up for bid for say top four contractors top three how many that you all think should be and I used this last sheet on the bids as a spec sheet that structure and compensation I think maybe that's what they need to fill out. And then we can pick from them.

What is the fine on top of this?

What do you mean? Explain.

So this is what we're charging if somebody has to go out there to mow?

This is when I give you your 7 to 10, usually it's more than that, and longer to... get your ducks in row, and when you haven't, then I call them.

This is the cover for us to come in and do it. Yes. What about the fine aspect of it?

To the property owner.

To stop the property owner from using this new solid waste landscaping company that you've just opened up. So is there... I don't understand. What's the penalty? Yeah, what's the penalty? What's the fine? What's the penalty?

To the property owner. Well, the property owner is going to get that bill... We can add administrative fees to it. Then if you look on the lien, it's the lien on the property, plus they have to pay for all the costs and that. But I can put my administrative fees on there as well.

I'm just saying, you know, first time, they pay this plus a $100 fine. Second time, it's $250. Third time, it's $500. That's a good idea.

Because if somebody plans to just live there their whole life, you can put all the liens in there. We'd probably have to modify our ordinance.

I was going to say, we're going to have to modify... Which we can do. It's not going to be that hard.

You know, to... Account for that kind of stuff.

Should we put that in something like this, or is that what we want to, or would that go in our ordinance? That would go in our ordinance.

I mean, I think in that, once we have the ordinance with the amounts, then we can include that in there.

Yeah. Yeah, it's like two separate projects, the moment and update the ordinance.

right yeah that's because that's what we've talked about on several things we just need to start putting the teeth in some of these ordinances or it doesn't make sense to have the word oh right right there's not our ordinances are too lenient yeah so do you want more time to review this no i think this is fine okay and then and then if if you want i can make a motion where we start

update the ordinance where we update the ordinance and you come back to us with with reasonable but strong signs to go along with this okay so what should we do about this in the meantime about our mowing just should we go ahead and look for some contractors or what do we want to advertise the bid

Is this ready to do that, Chris, that we could get some contractors, or should we? I think we could get some contractors. I think we ought to do a bidding on that. What do we do in the meantime, I think is what she's asking.

Without the ordinance to back it up. I mean, we do have an ordinance. We do have an ordinance.

let you put a lien on the property, what would we pay?

So it's not like it's not... And they get a bill from me. If I have to come out and do whatever, there is a bill that is sent out, you know, that's got... We use FEMA rights and it can be pretty high. It can usually roughly between $500 and $700.

Well, until we get it bid and we get some contractors, we're just going to have to keep doing what we've been doing. Okay.

We could get an ordinance for the 9th of June. first reading, second reading, end of June. We could do that. So by the end of June, we should have the ordinance. I think so. And you'll kind of run the sequence with that, so we might be pretty close.

So we need a motion to approve this and a motion to advertise to bid for contractors. Yes. Okay.

I threw a motion out there on the ordinance. So do I second that first and then we go back? Yeah, we'll do it. Yeah, we'll do it. Is it different?

Yeah, okay. So have a motion by magistrate Cullen, a second by magistrate Boehner to accept the contract?

No. Ordinance. My motion was to update the ordinance and put more teeth in it. Okay, but are we going to accept this? We'll do that next.

Plan of action, I like it. Okay, motion is to update the ordinance to include additional penalties. Correct. Other than just lien on the property.

Yes.

So motion and second. Any discussion on that motion?

That motion will be, we're going to have it to include also removal of debris and stuff like that besides just the yard and the grass.

Yes, that's what's in the... That's what's in here.

Yeah. Yeah, we're not there yet, though. We're still working on the leads and fines.

Yeah. Okay. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Now we need a motion to approve the agreement. Motion. Okay. Mr. Bodner is your second? Second. Mr. Harmon, any discussion on the agreement and the notice of length?

And this is the one that includes debris pickup and that sort of thing? This right here.

These two documents.

What effect would this have on our state inmates going out and cleaning up?

That comes now.

No effect?

I don't think so. They don't do any of this. They don't do any of this. They only do roadside stuff. Yeah.

They don't do any of this.

They don't go on anybody's property.

Right.

Okay. Any other discussion? All those in favor of the motion signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Now we need a motion to advertise for bids for contractors.

Don't move.

Measure Harmon. Is there a second?

Second.

Measure Kellan. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Did you get all that? I think so. I hope you did because I can't go back. Sure, she's right. All right. What else, Ms. Angie? That's all I got until you called me back. Okay. All right. Good deal. Okay, next is a proclamation for Brain Tumor Awareness Month. And as most of you all know, Katina's husband has been diagnosed with a brain tumor and has had surgery to remove that tumor and is recovering. He'll go this week to the doctor to find out about chemo and radiation. So we thought it was only appropriate that we do a proclamation for those that are suffering with brain tumors and there's, you know, several in our community. I've heard of just two others recently and so we want to do this proclamation to bring awareness to that. Whereas brain tumors affect thousands of individuals and families each year across the United States regardless of age, gender, race, or socioeconomic status. And whereas a brain tumor diagnosis presents significant physical, emotional, and financial challenges for patients, caregivers, and loved ones. AMWRAS increased public awareness and education are essential to improving early detection, advancing treatment options, supporting survivors, and funding critical medical research. AMWRAS healthcare professionals, researchers, advocacy organizations, caregivers, and community supporters work tirelessly to improve the quality of life and outcomes for individuals living with brain tumors. AMWRS Brain Tumor Awareness Month serves as an opportunity to honor those who have lost their lives to brain tumors, support those currently fighting the disease, and recognize the courage and resilience of survivors and their families. AMWRS, the citizens of Boyle County, are encouraged to participate in awareness efforts, support research initiatives, and stand in solidarity with all those impacted by brain tumors. Now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Trillie L. Bottom, Boyle County Judge Executive and the Boyle County Fiscal Court hereby recognize the month of May 2026 as Brain Tumor Awareness Month, this 26th day of May. I get a motion to approve. All right. I think I heard Magistrate Ellis. I'll give the second to Magistrate Harmon.

My wife had a brain tumor. It was six inches on this side of the brain. And they went in the night before the surgery, put an injection in it, and shrunk it down to a third of the size. And the gal that won the fencing gold medal, her daddy was the doctor.

Wow.

Judge, I'm going to receive from my motion after comment.

Okay, so we'll accept a motion from Mr. Harmon and a second from Mr. Elsie.

Thank you.

Any other comments or discussion?

I had to do that. She whipped me when I got off. That's right.

Alright, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Any opposed nay?

Motion carried.

Thank you. Alright, Ms. Shannon, you're back up for a monthly settlement.

Present the monthly settlement for April.

Court to acknowledge. Court to acknowledge. All right. Any questions for Ms. Shannon?

I love it. Thank you very much. Looks good.

Very good. Thank you. I really like that. all right uh we have a reappointment this morning and tim montgomery is with us we're going to i ask that we reappoint tim to the cvb board and i will let you all know the cvb board voted to extend well they changed how they do their appointments and they voted to extend the term for board members so otherwise we wouldn't be able to do this so okay motion c Okay, I have a motion by Magistrate Ellis. Is there a second?

Second.

Second by Magistrate Cullen. Any discussion? All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. Tim, if you'll come up, I've got a certificate. To reappoint you to the CBP board. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. And then you all want to give a update while you're here?

I'd be honored and thank you for the reappointment. Great. Our cash balance has been dwindling for the last few years. Our revenues are down and staff has projected that they'll continue to drop this year. We do have another motel that comes online in a few weeks. And ideally that would stiffen us up and make some more revenues. But we're just not sure. About 20 years the motel industry went through this. we hope this one won't be as deep but revenues are down the short-term collections are growing and it's mostly due to compliance we've been arrest on that since I've been on the board let me see we're in our budget cycle and we're probably gonna liquidate once we have $40,000 in CDs. We've transferred those to a 20 and a 20. Is that correct? Yeah. So we will probably this year we will tap roughly 30 out of our operating account and one $20,000 CD to get through this budget cycle. And that is if the revenues continue to be flat or drop. Hopefully they won't be. But I think that's all I have unless you have any questions that Kendall can answer.

Any questions for McGoran?

No.

Okay. All right.

Thank you. Thanks again for the appointment. Appreciate your service.

Thanks, Tim. Thank you. All right. And we were spending some of this money. A lot of it's, of course, advertising and marketing. Right now we're in the midst of our Spring marketing advertising campaign. We usually do a lot in the spring and it's kind of a little bit dormant in the summer and then we get back to it in the fall. So right now we've had ads in Southern Lady, Southern Home, Cincinnati Magazine, Indianapolis Monthly, Kentucky Living. We've done some social media campaigns, digital campaign. And we also have a small ad in Southern Living. And the June-July issue of Garden and Gun, we're going to have a full-page ad that is rare for us because those are incredibly expensive. But we got what's called a remnant, where they had a leftover ad space, and they make it available first come, first serve. We got it for like 17% of the actual cost of the ad. That's great. Still expensive, but we got it. So that'll be in the June-July issue. And that was Garden and Gun, right? Garden and Gun. And the Southern Living ad was the same situation. It was a remnant. We got it at a greatly discounted rate, otherwise we wouldn't be in there. So it gives us a much bigger audience to reach. Coming up, we'll be doing social media campaigns for the Great American Brass Band Festival, as well as the American 250 events coming up. We've got a 30-second streaming ad that will be on the Spectrum about two weeks before the 4th of July. and then we've got a billboard with it'll quit raining they're going to put up at the viaduct which will be up supposedly sometime this week through mid-july so that'll be similar to the billboard we had up before we changed out one of the photos but we had another billboard on the viaduct back in march it's going to be basically the same billboard uh and then just general you know promotion on social media of the america 250 units i've been working with tony on that a lot trying to figure out how big of an audience we want to reach with the Eddie concert, because we don't want, you know, obviously too many people showing up, we want a good crowd, so we're looking at probably like a 25 mile radius for marketing to have a good crowd and not have, you know, a crowd we can't handle. He actually just called right before this meeting, I'm sure he wanted to talk about that. The only thing better than getting good rates on ads is getting free marketing through what's called earned media, where you get journalists who write about you. So we, a few weeks ago, hosted in conjunction with the Kentucky Department of Tourism what they call a fam tour, a familiarization tour. And we had five journalists, freelance writers, who came in. They were from North Carolina, Florida, Iowa, Arizona, and Oregon. We had them for a very brief window of time. So we showed them as much as we could. And then we kind of filled in the blanks with press releases and photos that we sent to them via Dropbox. So the Kentucky Department of Tourism is monitoring these journalists to see what they end up writing. Of course, they're magazines, so it takes a little time to get in. But we'll have links to those whenever they get published. And some of them have already been doing blog posts on their own Facebook pages.

I saw a couple of the little reels. One of them did the banana flip or something with Burks Bakery.

Yeah, so we're getting a little bit out of that. We had originally planned to do our own media tour this year. which can be expensive because you've got to fly them in, pay for hotels, drive them around. With this partnership, we spent about $500. We had taken them to dinner, bought them donuts. They were shocked at how cheap it was to buy a box of Brooks donuts. But we got good feedback from some of the journalists. They enjoyed their trip here. I think they'll have good things to say about us. We also have $16,000 in checks out right now for our funding for... brass band for Pioneer Playhouse and another one for the Will County Fair which these were all approved by the CDB back in January and we issued those checks this past week so that's out there and of course Tim mentioned Home 2 Suites My understanding is they're going to be open anytime now. This past Monday, they had three tractor trailers there unloading stuff, and they said that they would definitely be open in time.

This is by Encattlements?

Yeah, the hotel by Encattlements. They said they would definitely be open in time for the Great American Brass Band. As Tim mentioned, we don't really know how that's going to play into our revenue for next year. We don't know if that's just going to siphon off some of the traffic from the other hotels. There's definitely opportunities during those busy weekends, Great American Brass Band Festival, Bourbon Chase, other times when everything's booked, to grow that a little bit. So just to be cautious, we didn't really factor that into the budget going into next year. So hopefully we'll see an increase. We just didn't really know what to project.

Is there joint venture local ownership with an outside entity of that new business?

The Holiday Inn, the Hampton Inn, and Home 2 Suites are all owned by the same ownership group. The primary person is Manish Patel. He lives in Lexington, and he owns several other properties, including the ones here. Last thing I want to mention, last time I was here, I had presented to you all about the mural. So the mural that was going to be on the side of the Coldwell Banker building, that was conceived last year by city staff in conjunction with America 250. CBB board was approached back in November, asked if we would receive funds and basically administer that, get the mural painted. So CBB board agreed to do that and the staff would handle that. I was asked to formally request funds from the City Commission several weeks ago, which I did, and they asked me to come to you all to ask for half of that, which I did. So I relayed back to them conversations that were had. And Melanie Crossfield, I went back to Kirby, and they've added Boyle County to the mural. I think she's going to have them tweaked a little bit more. So I don't think we have a final design yet.

Have they changed the mural in any way?

It has been... I haven't seen the final design. She was out last week. I was texting her about it. She said she was going to ask them to tweak it some more.

So I don't know what the... For lack of equal billing, and I mean equal fonts, if you call them that on a mural, I can't possibly vote for it. We were shocked. I mean, I was glad that it started at that end of the table because I calmed down by the time it came to me.

Well, next thing I was going to mention, it also reminds me that the city is going to cover the entire cost of the mural.

And we have the same problem with Brass Band Festival mural this year. Nothing, nothing at all about Boyle County. How does that happen after eight years with some of us insisting if we're gonna give $5 and Cindy's gonna give $5, then there has to be, I mean, I'm on my way out, but I will be a watchdog come January 20th of next year, too.

Yeah, it was the poster for Bradstown.

You said they're covering the whole thing, though? Yeah, I was told that the city was, I don't think they voted on this, but that's what I was told by staff, was that the city was going to fund the entire cost of this.

That's what it is now. We received word this morning they're requesting $5,000 from us. from the county okay that was like i said we're kind of yeah you're in the middle yeah no no no no no i'm not i'm just i'm just telling you what we learned this morning okay you'll come back to us or they'll come back to us with the final design hopefully i've requested it yeah i don't think we should move on anything until i don't need it i don't know yeah i was here asking i was just giving you all the updates no thank you kendall we appreciate the update and appreciate everything you do

Do you have a question?

No? You doing okay?

Yeah, doing good.

Did you have a good weekend?

No, not really. You could grill out yesterday. That was nice.

Yeah, we saw that. We were invited. Yeah. Thank you very much.

Yeah, thank you. Okay. Angie, you're back up in New Mexico. Back again. Yeah.

In fact, we got several things, several things. Yeah, I know.

Waste Tire Grant. All right, that is our Waste Tire Grants, the usual $4,000 we get every year from the state that goes in between tire collection events, which will not have a tire collection event until next year, probably the fall, 2027. Okay. Okay. But now Rock Castle County is having theirs. The 20th. And anybody resident in the state of Kentucky can use any county's tire collection event.

Is that always the case? Always.

Interesting. Yes. As a Kentucky resident, you can use any county's tire collection event. Rock Castle's is, I believe, the 15th or the 18th or the 20th or something like that.

So is there always one in this region somewhere every year?

Usually, not real soon. It goes by ad districts. It goes usually by ad. So we're going to request the $4,000? We always get it. It's about an every year thing. We've already got it. It's just we signed for it. It's an agreement. That we do want it, we do want to get it.

If you had a remarkable citizen who financed filling up a semi and taking it to Rock Castle, could they refuse X number of tires or do they have to take what comes?

The only one they'll refuse from if you are a tire retailer or if you're a scrap yard, savage yard type place, they'll refuse you. But as a resident, no. Even we can load up a load and take it if we'd like. So if we were out of money, I would be yelling now for us to take some down there, but we're... We keep it in control. You disapproved? Yes, please. We'll have to wait for the motion to come back. Okay. They all need a vote, so I guess we have to wait on Jason.

Well, okay.

All right. I was not thinking that way, but okay. All right. Do we have a motion to approve the waste tire grant agreement? So moved. I saw Mr. Bozeman first. Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries.

The next one is the household hazardous waste agreement. Need to thank the judge for rescuing me. So this one's on her. This will be dedicated to her. Teamwork. But this will be held in August, as always, the third weekend in August. Saturday the 23rd, I believe is the date.

Saturday, August 23rd?

Make sure this is Saturday the 23rd.

22nd of August. Saturday, 22nd?

That's the 22nd, then, if that's a Saturday. Make sure it's the third one. Oh, the third one is the 15th. Then go on down, be the 22nd. Okay, 22nd.

Okay. All right. Need a motion to approve?

I'll move.

Mr. Harmon, is there a second?

Is that usually 9 to 12? Usually I have it 8 to 1. 8 to 1.

Is there a second to the motion for having the hazardous household waste?

I'll second.

Mr. Cullen, any discussions? All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Recycling grant?

All right this year's recycling grant uh we got approved for everything but the sweeper scrubber which I sort of expected that I didn't like it but that's just the way it is sometimes when it's election years and everybody asking for money and But we did get roughly $93,400. We're getting our new skid steer, recycling baskets, mini cyclers, and platforms. So I'll take it. It's stuff we need.

We can always reapply.

I won't complain. We can always reapply next year for other things. Okay. Is there a motion to approve the recycling grant? I was hoping to hit the three million mark this year. I'm not.

Measured Harmon. Is there a second?

Second.

Measured Cullen. Any discussion? Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed nay?

Motion carries.

All right. And then we had the update on the air burner public hearing. Yes. And I think everybody should have received all the information. Okay. I'll do that. So whatever you want to say about the update.

I

Commented and that was it turned in so we should be hearing from them. I would think by the end of the week cool and do we have any update on when we they are still my understanding is I have talked to Robert the guy who come trained us they have changed companies they have changed hands okay so the gentleman done it has been stuck in Texas and they're trying to find a date to squeeze us in because they were just overloaded. And like I said, they've changed companies and policies have changed. So I'm still waiting back to hear from them. Hopefully here. Do you think it'll be? I want to call him again this week to see where we were at.

Okay.

I know the last time we talked, we were four or five weeks out. And that's what I told him he would. He was hoping for a trip to Tennessee where he could just ease up here in a couple hours and Due hours, so I'm still waiting to hear if that's a thing. I didn't get the first of that conversation.

What are we talking about?

To meet at the air burner. Okay. Yeah, for the company to come. I couldn't hear what you said. Yeah, the company to come and, yeah, to go through it.

And, of course, related to that.

They've changed hands now. I didn't know that.

Related to that, what is the status of discussion with the city about the site that is going to be looked at to move the air burner?

Josh has a spot that they're prepping the road needs to be built first.

He said it should be, I mean. Can you talk about June, late June, July?

They're saying early July for the road now. With all this rain, they haven't been able to work on it.

Has it been approved by the state? No.

I have to ask my question in different ways. What is the status of a written approval from Danville that we could move it on the jointly owned?

Well, we only have verbal, but...

It's not jointly owned.

It's EDA, so it's not... We both contribute to EDA. Yes. But once it goes into the hands of the EDA, it's no longer our property. So it has to go through the EDA board.

Does the county or does the city have an overriding capability if it is approved or if it is denied? No. Counselor? We have city and county funds involved in it. I would think that it's absolutely...

With that agreement, I mean... That was one of my biggest problems with going to the EDA, was that once it goes... That's why I didn't want to put a lot of money into EDA, because once we put money into EDA, we lose control. The only control we have is through our board representation, just like with economic development and other things.

A question. Counselor, I'll... Let Mr. Bodner answer a question. Okay.

When I went to the meeting at the air quality, they said there was never... a permit before we put the air curtain burner in Alum Springs. There was not an air quality permit there.

It was applied for, yes.

It was applied for, but it wasn't there. So we did move it in there without a permit. Correct.

The property's already approved because it is a cabina center. The property, it's already, it's already permitted. For what? The convenience center at the bar. Anything we need to put on it that adjusts to the standards. Could I get some paperwork to that?

Yeah, I'd like to see that too. I like the property.

That'd be good.

Because it would specifically have dimensions.

Now the EDA property, what are we doing towards... You know, we're getting the road done, but what are we doing?

Well, we'll have to apply for a permit. We'll have to get them down and see if we can put it there. It's an industrial place. I'm not seeing it's going to be feasible to put it there, but we'll let them tell us if it is or not.

Okay, and who do we talk to about that? Because I'd like to...

I would have to go through the same people that's doing the permit and our air quality people. Okay.

Could you initiate that?

Environmental cabinet. Environmental cabinet.

I make a motion that it be initiated to go through that process for the secondary property that we're looking at.

Okay. With the EDA. Second. All right. I have a motion by Magistrate Ellis, a second by Magistrate Bodner to start the process for the permitting of the EDA property on North Stewart's Line.

Do we know exactly where it'll sit? We'll have to get with Josh. I need to know that before I can do that.

We'll get with Josh. Again, do we have to go through EDA on this? Can we tell EDA we're doing their property?

I'm going to review that agreement.

And you'll get up with me before I...

I have to know a spot. I'm going to review that agreement.

Tom, I don't disagree with your motion. Affirmative, yes.

I can rescind my motion. So long as we are going to address it the next meeting. Can we talk about Utah?

I think if our counselor were to check it out, we still have as a court and or we still have as Danville City Government the opportunity to override a decision of EDA because we are fiduciaries of the money that we granted to EDA. And therefore, I think we need to proceed with all fast movement to know what's going on, to know what we can do, to have the approval process. If you've got a block of acreage, and it's a lot of acreage where it could be moved, I'm not too terribly worried about it being north, south, east, or west. I'm worried about our ability to be overridden or the city override our intent because we've discussed this now for a minimum of two years.

Let's table this to the next meeting. I'll have a full report. Thank you.

I will rescind my motion. The one thing to think about, Tom, is that if we were to give $300,000 to Economic Development for their budget, If we give them that money, we do not have the ability to say, give us that $300,000 back. I understand that. That's the same principle with EDA. Once we've put everything in that pot, I know this because I was very critical of how much money we're putting, because once it's in there, we lose it. Even if we walk away from the EDA, anything that's in there is no longer ours. We just have the board seats to it.

My argument, as in argumentation, is that as fiduciaries of that money, We certainly could have, counselor, the possibility of directing where that geography would be for something this critical. Because I want to know that we can move it out of Allen Springs, which has been discussed now for over two years. All right, I'll have a report next week.

Have we had the murder for two years?

We haven't had the murder for two years. We haven't had it for a year. We've had the discussion for two years.

Now I'll get back to what I was talking about. I'd like to have the EDA to somebody make contact with them who should do that to talk to them. I don't want to leave them out at all.

Well, here's what we've got to do. First of all, we've got to find out if they will permit it to be at that location. Once we get affirmative that they will permit it, then we take it to the EDA board and let the EDA board, which Steve and I sit on. But first we've got to get approval that they're going to let it go there.

And we have to find exactly what that address is so that when I call the environmental agency and say, I want to know exactly where that is. We're kind of waiting. It seems like we're always waiting for something and we can't get it going. We can't get it moving.

There's steps and hoops you have to jump through, yes. Until there's a road. We can't do anything until there's a road. Which is going to be right away. But we can go ahead and start the permitting process to get approval for it to go there. So once they've done that and they've approved it, then we can take it to the EDA board and get their approval to let us put it on the EDA property.

Can you ask at the next... Can you ask for, at the next EDA meeting, to have Josh come to present where he wants to have it at to the EDA and maybe take some sort of soft vote on if they like that spot?

I'd like to ask Mark Morgan. I had a really good conversation with him about the new spot that they're thinking about having. He had some really good comments and I haven't asked him if he would come, but I'm going to do that and see if we can get him on the agenda at the same time. Okay. I don't know if that'll work out with his schedule.

Well now, what he's talking about is coming to the EDA board.

Oh no, this would be for us.

I think it would be good to have Mark. Mark and I have worked together ever since I was a magistrate on several issues and his insight, both as an environmentalist and an attorney, would be excellent for us.

I think you should talk to him because you'd be surprised at his take on this air burner.

Yeah, I talked to him for 30, 40 minutes. It's a really good conversation.

But I agree, I think having him come in and talk about it as well would be good. But yeah, just if we could have Josh go to the EDA and that way we can have a step in a box that's checked.

Yeah. And you start the process for the permit. Once we find the location to address. Alright. So we need a motion to table this until the next meeting for... I'll make a motion. We tabled it.

What are we tabling? Yeah, we don't have... The motions were rescinded.

Okay. We said table it, so I'm going on this. I'll present something in the next meeting. Okay. Thank you.

I mean, the ask was to have Chris review the contract with the EDA to see if we do have any legal ramifications on what we put in. Right. So... Sounds good. Good to go. Thank you.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. We're going to, uh, skip down to item 14, uh, because we have, um, the honorable judge in our presence right now. And, uh, attorney Heron, you want to, um, talk about opioid funding?

Judge, can we rise? I've got about 45 people upstairs, so I'll try to keep this brief and, um, you know, Chris and I were talking after our community mapping event that I don't know if he shared with you all that we had a couple of weeks ago, had a bunch of the community partners get together. Trilly was there. We had some of the magistrates there is what I believe. But nevertheless, we were discussing Casey's Law, which is a proceeding in district court for folks that are dealing with substance abuse issues. It's a mechanism for families to come in or any interested party. When they've got a concern that someone's a danger to themselves or others, they can file a petition that's heard in district court. And there's a determination made whether or not they do pose that danger to the point where they need to be ordered to attend involuntary treatment for substance abuse. We've had some success. There's been ups and downs with it throughout the process. I think it does have an important part in the recovery community and It's a tool in the tool belt, so to speak. We got to talking with some of the community partners at this event, and there was some concern with the process that we had in place. There was concern regarding the burden financially that it put on the petitioners because incident to that petition is a guarantee that the petitioner will be responsible for all the financial expenditures or costs that are incurred incident to that treatment. and including in that is the attorney's fees because the court's required to appoint an attorney to represent the interests of the person that's before the court responding to the petition. We talked a little bit with the community partners about that and I'm not here using the prestige of this office in any way to try to advance any agenda, but I do think this is an opportunity for us to not only educate the community on the process when it comes to these Casey's Law petitions, but there may also be an opportunity here to put some procedures into place to put a cap maybe on some of these attorney's fees or some guide rails and then that would hopefully promote More of these petitions coming before the court so we can get the people the help that they need. I think that Chris had looked into some of the numbers. I believe the last petition that was filed here in our jurisdiction in Boyle County was in 2024, December 2024. We haven't had anything in 25, haven't had anything in 26. I think part of the issue is the fact that these expenses are unexpected when they come to see us. I was always under the impression that it was the rehab bill that was the issue because the court typically does order 360 days of treatment. Most of the Medicaid funds cover a portion of that, but hopefully, you know, in an ideal situation, we put someone in a position to where they can be managed in the community on an outpatient basis, you know, in sober living or some aftercare once they get far enough into the programs. But the hope is to try to get back on the same page with those in the community that are on the front lines of identifying people that need this and also having those people give them some expectations on what to expect moving forward as far as what that responsibility from a financial standpoint would be. Is there anything you want to touch on?

I needed you to speak, and then you can leave if you want to.

Do you have any questions for me, though, as far as the process?

Real quickly, because Chris and I talked before court this morning, I'm understanding that the possibility is for those who qualify for Medicaid, the lion's share the burden on the family for bringing it forward would be paid by Medicaid at least the treatment part likewise Medicare I'm sure it would be covered to the to the greatest majority of the dollars that is what I'm hearing and then hopefully most insurance companies today are enlightened about what they weren't 50 years ago is that what I'm hearing yes and well I guess what I'm trying to express to you all is that I was under the impression that it was the

the insurance issues, the bills from the rehab programs that were the barrier for folks that were hesitant to file these. But it was expressed to us by some of the people that are on the front lines talking with these families, dealing with these issues on a day-to-day basis, that it was the attorney's fees that they would have to be responsible for that's really an issue as well. I think we did have one case that I think the fees were upwards of $1,500, That did require significant time on the after the attorney because not always do we you know are the people you know willing to accept the treatment sometimes we've got to you know employ some other tools as far as the courts concerned to make them fall through with that obligation that they've been ordered to complete and so really it's an opportunity to try to utilize some resources potentially to you know help give put the expectation into better context so they know what to expect. And also, really, it seems as though there's a disconnect between the court and the community as far as what the process looks like. And so I think a lot of it's going to be education, too, to make sure that folks are on the same page. So we and our counselor can help with that education process.

Right.

There's a hefty filing fee just to get this started with the clerk. I'm not sure exactly how much it is. I'm sure it's probably about $150 or so, just for that. And then the person in question has to be evaluated by two different people, a doctor, and I think it's like a psychologist. So that's another fee that they may be responsible for paying. So after that, that's $150 there. They have to pay for these two evaluations. That could be anywhere from $300 to $400 a piece. And then that's just starting out. And then if you have an attorney, which our attorneys are very fair as far as the cost that they charge to help represent the person that's being filed against. You come back to court several times, especially when we have cases where the person filed against, they leave rehab. And they abscond, we don't know where they are, we find them, they go back to jail. Then we have to have another hearing for them, are you gonna go back to court or you wanna stay in jail? So that's another fee that's incurred.

So the opioid money that you and I talked about would be the bridge of getting some of that money waived for the family?

Right. And I think that we need to sit down and talk about like, well, we need caps on, you know, how much we're going to be able to give to help. But I think that help, I think people sometimes don't even have the money to do the filing fee, you know, so if we can, that'll be a good. open the door to get things started. Because I feel, and I was talking to the clerk a while ago, that a lot of these cases are just not filed at all because of the fees at the start of things. And I've seen firsthand, I can name two or three, it's confidential, I can't. But I've seen where the parent or the daughter or whoever, they get so frustrated. And the fees are so expensive, you know, paying attorney fees over and over again that they just can't do it anymore. And they're like, don't make a motion. Yes. So what I would ask for is, through our opioid money, that we, I would like $50,000, and this is a one-time request, and with the hopes that 25 of that would come from our opioid settlement monies and then hoping that danville would pay the other 25 000. if not you know i guess it could come for all of ours but you know i'm hoping since a lot of the the cases involve people in the city you know that i think that that would be uh very good to be able to to contribute to that for the benefit of our everyone in our community.

So you're requesting $50,000?

I apologize to interrupt. I want to make sure it's clear that I'm not necessarily here asking for the money. I'm here as a support to explain that the court is willing to institute some protocols, whether it be a means test to determine who would qualify for these funds, imposing caps on the fees that the attorneys can charge so that they're not you know they don't listen to the fiscal court meeting and know that there's a pot of money and now they start charging you know double what they would really would you know the goal would be is to you know set this up so that we can maximize the funds for the people that need it he's educating you all i'm asking for the money i appreciate you taking time to come down anytime anytime i make a motion that working through our county attorney and from the

opioid funds allocated from us from the previous court cases that we explore the use of $50,000 ideally to be matched by the city of Danville toward a project where we put together all of the means testing and everything else necessary to be an assist in helping families move forward with pre-treatment programs. I hate to use the word imposed on the family, but is that okay with you?

I mean, well I mean this is imposed upon the person it's filed against because it's kind of like a It's a last ditch effort to try to help the person. They've tried everything possible to get this person to go to rehab or to help them. And it's to the point where this person's gonna die or something because there's nothing left to do.

Yes. Can I make a second so we can talk about that? Yes, thank you. I want a second to talk about that.

I have a motion by Master Ellis, which we'll try to reduce a little bit.

And a second by Master Fogner. So you're asking 25 or 50?

I'm asking for 50 with the hopes that... With the hopes that, I got you. Okay. 25 of the 50 would come from the city. Okay. Worst case though, we do it, but it's just to help fund the initial cost of filing fees, maybe the valuations, attorney fees to some point. I mean, the people filing this need to be invested in as well and pay some type of prorated share.

So basically it would be $25,000. We could put the other $25,000 in reserve if the city does not fund.

So our opioid money, how much do we get, Shannon, for opioid? It varies. It varies. But $70,000-ish?

What do we have? That's more of a question.

We have $370,000 at the end of April.

Is this going to be an ongoing or is this going to be a one-time?

I'm asking for it one time. We'll see how it goes. I mean, hopefully we won't have to use, you know, the entire amount.

It's kind of a pilot program.

We're trying to see if this is... And I researched it, too, and, you know, people go to rehab not just for opioid-type problems, but I researched it, and with the opioid money, it can be used for non-opioid.

drug uses as well Julie would you truncate my 18 sentence proposal and I'll accept it because you've been familiar with this with Chris if you'll restate it to where we can make it basically what you're asking the board is up to 50,000 capped at 50 to institute a pilot program

to implement more use of the Casey's law. Is that what you're saying?

And I like the judge's guardrails.

That's right. Much better. I like that.

And we can report back to the court, or I will, as far as kind of the guidelines that we set in place. So moved. Second.

Okay. We have motion and second. Any other discussion?

Yeah. So having been through this with family, involuntarily sending somebody to treatment is always risky. And so I do like the aspect of this being a pilot program. Luckily we have somebody in the audience that I'm going to ask her opinion on some of this, if you don't mind. Jessica is here as a counselor. Jessica, do you want to weigh in on some of this and your thoughts?

I know Lexington, when we did our CIT training, when we talked about that point in Casey's Law, Lexington, Fayette County has some sort of, where they're able to use Casey's Law. Because I remember Kathy saying here that we really couldn't use it because of that barrier to a lot of the families.

Jessica's voice has changed, but... I saw her head going like this. I've educated Mike a lot over the years, but I do agree with the judge and Mr. Herron 100%.

When I work with families and they are looking at completing KC's law, the packet is also ridiculous.

when it comes to what needs to be submitted to the court. It's like this thick. And it is very overwhelming for someone trying to complete that paperwork who is very concerned about their family member, the things that they have to collect. It's very arduous. So that and the fees are the burden that stop family members from pursuing course treatment. There is research that says if you are forced into treatment. It is no less effective than voluntary treatment. The problem is where they're sent and how easy it is to leave there. If it is easy to leave, most times they leave and it's not effective because you're not actually receiving the treatment. If the treatment is mandated and the person is detained in some way, research states that substance abuse treatment is equally as effective

And I think that's why we have to respect what Magister Cullen just said with his familiarity that it be a pilot program.

I look at finding some very good partners to utilize. Yes, thank you for that.

Lynn, did you have anything you want to say? I saw you pop in.

I wanted to hear, I couldn't hear it in there on the opioid money part of it, but I went through it myself. been through this personally, was addicted for years, been in recovery for 10 years. I can say that you cannot force someone to be clean. If they don't wanna do it, they're not gonna do it. It is great for the family to know that their loved one is either behind bars, in treatment center, somewhere to know that they're alive. But that's about all they can do with it. If they don't want it, as soon as they get out of that involuntary treatment, they're going right back to it. I do think money would be better spent educating. Maybe put a family part into it. Maybe they have to go through. the family being educated on being a support system.

So that could be one of the guardrails that the judge and Chris have been talking about.

They've got to have some type of educated support system knowing how to deal with it. I truly believe that being clean depends on your support. If you don't have full support from an educated person who's either been there, done that, or has been educated to deal with it, it's not all the same.

And, of course, part of that is pulling the person away from his or her buddies.

Your people's place is things. You have to get away from every single bit of it.

Why don't we form a committee and come up with a program and present it back to you before we spend any money? I think we need to do that. Chris, what do you think?

Is there an urgency to this request?

Well, I mean, obviously, it's been two years and we haven't had any people file.

There's definitely urgency because people aren't not using drugs. I don't want to beat this down the political post of putting it in through committees. I mean, I like the idea and stuff like that. I think that your office, along with some input maybe from Jessica, you know...

I had someone in my office about eight months ago, trying to complete the paperwork. And I'm guessing that they never made it through the packet.

Yeah. And I do understand that you can't force somebody to do it. I've seen several people who initially it's kind of, yeah, I guess you technically force somebody, but they got into the program and they realized the benefits from it. So, and then it wasn't like a forced thing anymore. It's like they wanted to do it. They wanted to complete it and they just needed that push To get started.

That barrier that you keep talking about, maybe getting rid of that barrier. If we can get one or two people that lift this barrier. I understand you can't do involuntary stuff like I've been through. But if you give them the opportunity, this is really more of an opportunity, so there is no excuses.

So you have it on the table.

Yeah, and to help to get them through the bureaucracy of that packet and stuff like that.

It's really a feel-good thing. That's not why I'm doing this. It's because the person is at the bottom of the bottom. They've maybe even gone to rehab before on their own. And just left. You know, keep on promising. I've had others promising their families, I'm going to go to rehab, I'm going to go to rehab. But I'm not going to go unless somebody makes me now or whatever.

And so that's... I think the idea that nobody has gone through Casey's Law in Bull County for two years... speaks volumes to this problem.

And sometimes people are also afraid that they're going to not like me anymore. Like they're going to resent me. And I have seen that as well in court of when, you know, they're mad at their child or whoever for following this and them, you know, going to treatment or whatever. But, you know, it's, it comes to the point where the person that's following it, like, you know, yes, this might cause our relationship to sever our relationship, but I care more about the person and them getting better than us, you know. Death is much more permanent. Yes.

Absolutely. Pastor Ellis.

Elena, thank you for your comment. I was very aware of that and missed that opportunity when you gave a presentation a year and a half or so ago. Elena and Jessica, I've got a friend who went three times and is in unbelievably great shape right now. Do we need, just like coaching, anything, do we need a group of people who have been out of, back into society in an incredibly important ways. Do we need a group of folks who've been there and completed and now? Because I think we could recruit them.

We haven't.

So it's other than family. It's reality of I've been there and I'm here to help you.

That's part of their treatment. Anyway, it's not like, I don't think we need to micromanage.

No, I'm saying we need to turn it over. to folks like that, and I'm naive about what I just asked. Right, celebrate recovery, questions like that.

I can tell you, I just looked it up, we had eight overdose deaths in 2025. I had an open records request for that. So that might help you with your decision that we had, it looks like eight.

So that might help, just to know that. As a nurse, when I'd walk into someone's room that had an addiction, I was scared of saying the platitudes. Everything's going to be all right, let me fix it. Nurses want to fix things, and you can't do it. You have to have a really great plan, and this sounds like a good plan to help us move toward I can't do it. I'm not that person. I can do, I can take bedpans and I can do a lot of stuff, but I can't talk and understand like how, you know, some people here that have close families or I've had, everybody's had a family member. I've had two that passed away from drugs, but I can't, I'm giving it to the people that do it the best. And I think that's, we should do that. Yeah.

I agree. So the next question is for our treasurer, Shannon. Yeah. Any barriers with With this, we have the funds available. I know we've kind of committed some funds here and there.

We have committed 225 for this next year.

This is settlement money, not county funding.

It's settlement money and it varies every year. I went to Shannon before I even knew this.

I said, do we even have any money to be able to do this? Yeah, I know you do. So your ask is that we implement this for the 25-26 budget or are you asking for 26-27? I mean, let's just do it for 26-27.

I mean, we're almost there. That'll give us time to prepare. Because if we just said do it starting today, we don't have it already as far as how much we're going to cap it at, turning speed caps and things like that. I think if we say 26, 27, that'll give us the time to... You know, set those parameters.

Should we have the ability to add it to the budget now?

Well, that's what... It's in reserve, so we can just move it from reserve. After we get the budget approved. You'll have to approve that in July. Alright, call for questions. Alright, all those in favor of the motion that was presented?

That I can't repeat?

I think I need you to restate it, please. Signify by saying aye. Aye.

Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you, Chris. Thank you, thank you.

Okay, we're back up to number 12, EMS grant funding application, and we've got Director Rogers and Ms. Jessica Wigington.

Can we table this?

I have partnerships for success is the first one. All right, I only bring good news.

That's all right.

Okay, so we are asking for your blessing to file for two grants, the first one being a partnership for success. It is a $50,000 grant. There is no match. We are writing this grant to educate the community, advertise additional availability of the crew, community knowledge, and then also write in some funds for staff training.

Make a motion to approve.

Okay. I have a motion by Magistrate Cullen. Second?

Second.

Magistrate Boehner? Any discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye.

Any opposed nay?

Motion carries.

And then the second grant is the Rural Health Transformations Grant. We are hoping to write it for the full $650,000. It may be a little bit under depending on some of the budget items that we need to put in there. This one is a partnership between Community Paramedicine Program and the Crisis Response Unit and it will be written to continue funding of the Crisis Response Unit past July of 27. and gain two additional full-time community paramedics and some additional apparatus and things like that.

Got to keep it funded.

What's the match?

There's no match.

Make a motion to approve.

Motion by Mr. Cullen. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Boehner? Any discussion? Let's give everybody a chance. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. We'll bring this to you for signature.

okay and then who's doing the Kentucky Council on post-secondary education so this is a contract between us and the Council of post-secondary education their state in the back in 2023 they put out a program saying hey we need more paramedics nurses whoever else on the street so what the state does is they will actually match whatever we go and provide for a program. So this fiscal year, we have three students go to paramedic school. Total cost was $21,000. The state would match half of that, that $10,500 that we see on the agreement there.

Okay. I don't think we, did you all get copies of these? I did not. I don't. Is it in your Oz packet? Yeah, I got it. Alright, so it is for $21,000? So it's $10,500.

$10,500?

Yep, and the state match is $100. Okay, the state match. Yep. Okay. Alright. Is there a motion to approve the post-secondary education agreement?

I'll make that motion.

Second.

Manager Cohen, second by Manager Boehner. Any discussion?

I mean, I think it's great. I mean, I reviewed the contract, and it's the same as before. But, you know, one thing that has been disappointing, you know, sometimes we pay the training, and then at least one or two have, as soon as they've got the training done, they're like, you know, I want to leave the EMS. They pay us back for that. We do have that clause within the contract, but I don't know what it is. We need to retain these people.

If they don't want to be here, we don't want them, unfortunately. We've got a great group of people. We can insert somebody like that in there. If that doesn't want to be here, let them go. It is disappointing.

The percentage is very high of people that stay. It's definitely... We haven't seen the parametric shortages that the surrounding counties have seen because of what this report does. And this allows us to basically double our amount.

Any other discussion? All right. All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye.

Aye.

Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Anything else for us, Director?

It's been a busy week. Last week we had one of the days we made 31 runs in 24 hours. That was crazy. So it's just as busy as it's ever been.

Can you elaborate on runs? It's not just like, hey, I'm going out to here. I'm not going to Goggin. I'm not going out to Adams Springs Cross Pike. Some of those runs are, I'm going to Louisville. I'm going to Lexington. So in the midst of all of that you've got 31 runs happening and so you could lose two or three hours right there. There's only 24 hours in a day. I mean that's a huge number. It takes about an hour to do the paperwork for each run. And you could be on scene for, you know, an hour.

Try to find somebody. Right. Yeah, so like Master Collin said, it's everything from traumas, to cardiacs, to car wrecks, to inter-facility transfers. Some of the ones that we don't always think about are the hospice transports home, and those are people that need us to know to be with them as they go through that time. You know, we're blessed to be able to be there when they need us the most, and we're just thankful that we can be. But again, it all goes back to our providers. They're there every day. I want to thank them and the work that Mo does and Michael and Tim and everybody back at the office that keeps it moving forward.

Did you all assist Friday night with the car wreck?

No, it was Lincoln.

It was Lincoln, yeah.

Thank you.

What are you doing over here, James Lee?

I just wanted to add, when my ex-wife died with the AMS, the AMS crew, that we transferred her from Danville back to Casey County with the utmost love and care for the woman.

Thank you.

And they, I mean, they would have to, get her in the house, everything would have to be transferred back over to the ventilators and tricks, everything would have, the ventilator mostly was what had to be transferred back into the power pack at the house that she would be running. But it was a costly deal, which I mean, I know that the bills were paid through the grants for some of the ALS and then the, the Medicare and things that, but there was a two, there was a young lady that went most of the trips with her that were just absolutely fantastic.

Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate those comments. We have a fabulous team.

The level of care they're now giving is, it just, thanks to Mo and the education and Mike and Tim and their vision, the amount of things that they're doing on the scene is so much more than it was five or ten years ago.

And Dr. Grant, I mean, we couldn't really do it without Dr. Grant. He's okay.

Thank you all for being here. Thanks.

Thank you. Okay, Ms. Julie, Sheryl Morgan contract?

In your packet, you have a very short contract with Sheryl Morgan for three years. to recontinue our program services at $29,000 a year if you already accepted that bid.

This is the contract for that. Okay, so just need to approve the contract.

And it's for three years. We had five last time, right? That's correct.

Much more manageable.

Yeah.

Okay, do we have a motion to approve the consulting contract?

Motion.

Measure boner. Is there a second?

Second.

Measured else. Any discussion? Okay. Seeing none. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries. All right. Mr. Gordon must be out in the hall. Thank you, Jennifer.

Come on in, Mark.

Good morning. Good morning.

We wanted Mark. I don't know who this lived down version is.

I'm working on it. We had a change order for the roofing. We had done it at our recycling building. Where the covered loading dock area is, there's a roof on it, and we weren't going to re-roof it. or put sprinklers in it. So we had to take and cut the roof back about two foot so that it's not attached so that they could put a finish strip on the new roof in order to get the warmth. So we did that, and when we did that, it created a hole right there where the loading dock is, and all the rain comes off the roof and goes right down in front of the loading dock. fills up when it rains. So the change order was to put no gutters across that one end to get the water away.

Okay, that's an additional $1,800. Yes, ma'am.

Okay.

All right.

Any motion?

Motion by Magistrate Cohn to approve the change order. Second. Magistrate Ellis, any discussion?

motion carries on Public Works building the Builder has planned on start on June 1st and start our break room and officer after they get that done

The sprinkler company, Central Patoki Sprinkler, will actually come in and update our sprinkler system in that building. And after that, we'll get our occupancy certificate.

And after that, we can move in.

We can move in.

All right. Good deal. Good deal. Mark's done an excellent job in coordinating all that. Appreciate that.

All right.

Thank you.

Anything else? Are you going to put a little throat in there for you? No.

Thank you, guys. Thank you. Have a great day.

Appreciate all the work you've been doing. Okay, this time, I'd like to run to executive session pursuant to KRS 61.810, paragraph 1, paragraph C, discussions of proposed or pending litigations against or on behalf of the public agency. And I would request that everyone leave their room except for county administrator, county treasurer.

Attorney.

This is the survey of Allen Springs and we're going to do that another

Is the competing a survey?

Okay, we need to make a motion to go into executive session. Second by Mr. Ellis. Second by Mr. Bodner. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carried. We are in.

I move we leave.

Wait a minute, we're not live yet. Okay, I need a motion to return to regular session.

I move we return to regular session, no action taken in the executive session.

Okay, a motion by Magistrate Ellis, second by Magistrate Boehner. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries. Okay, we're up to Magistrate Report. And Magistrate Harmon, we will start with you today.

Okay. We had a good election. Because we all won. That makes it so much easier. But I know in my precinct that I had, Magistrate area, the numbers weren't very high. Total voters. It was 163 to 61. And that shows how much was cut. out of my district, it really made an effect. But still, the margin was 71%, which was the second highest in the county. It all makes sense. It'll all pan out. You'll always have your winners and losers. But I think everybody that ran was a winner. And we should always keep that right and never lose it. I do want to remember all the Memorial Day folks that have been out there and they relived the loss of loved ones in the military. And it's been very great through the years. That's all I have.

All right. Thank you, Mr. Harvey. Mr. Collins?

The Sheriff's Committee met, well, sheriff's kind of commitment this morning. I mentioned Sleeper was sick. I'm glad he had a fever, not feeling well, so I'm glad he didn't share that with us. So myself, Taylor Bottom, TJ Wren, and Kyle Lyons called me for a little bit and we talked. But we talked about Axon body cameras, they're ready to get those going once the new fiscal year hits. We talked at length about the cold case they solved. While it's in Lincoln County at the time that it happened it was Boyle County and so that's why they were able to move on it. They were grateful that a commonwealth attorney gave them lots of leeway on it and also that You know, Phil Dean had put a lot of work into this and then Austin Ray came in after taking some cold case education and jumped on it and it paid off. This, as far as I understand, is the only cold case murder that Lowell County has. And it has been solved. And I envision we're going to see a lot of press out of this. But just be prepared in the coming days there might be more info coming out.

Okay, I don't think it's the only case, but it is the only case that's been solved to date.

According to the sheriff, it was the only cold case murder. But I don't know. Okay. Y'all can argue this over Sunday. You might have a little more time on him in that department. I don't know. We have two deputies coming out of the academy. They're gonna be hanging out in the courthouse for probably about eight weeks and then we'll set them loose. We are going to look more into speeding enforcement in the county. I know the city of Campbell's been doing a good job with having somebody out there really cracking down on the speeding, given what happened Friday night and other instances. You know, people just drive really fast. Not saying that that's, you know, everything, but that stretch of road is, I drive it all the time. People come out of there fast. And then we also talked about the sheriff's department coming up with a list of wants and needs for their new building. Once we close on that, start kind of getting that, and that we need to figure out how we want to proceed with... designing that building you know I think we need to have some sort of architect or some sort of project manager that will that would push that in the right direction and hopefully save some money because we could go all over the place so and that is my my report

Thank you. Okay, we have a motion and a second on Sheriff's Committee report. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Any opposed, nay. Motion carries.

I'm going to do something here which will be fun. Yeah. You should be. I am, given all the talk that's been happening and all the concerns that are out there, I know we're getting some education on it. But I'd like to make a motion that we put a moratorium on any data centers from coming into Boyle County. I second that motion.

Okay, we have a motion from Magistrate Cullen, a second from Magistrate Ellis to put a moratorium on any data centers.

Applications.

Applications.

Or requests to come into Boyle County.

Okay, and is there a date that you'd like to attach to the moratorium?

I would like to but and the main reason that we're doing this now that we're in the question is is so that I know the judge is working with planning and zoning on coming up with you know strong Language language and and really getting educated on this is something we want something that we don't want and you know just getting the whole grapple i personally don't want one but um uh i would say for now let's have it through uh the i would say june of 2027 put it out there unless council has any okay we can always change it but that's through the end of the next budget year um okay

All right, so we have a motion for a moratorium on data center applications through June of 2027. And we also have a second. Any other discussion?

I am so adamantly opposed to them. I don't know whether we'd want to limit it to just one year and then somehow get bollocksed up. Well, you can extend it. We can always extend it. I know we did but I thought we were vulnerable on that when we did extend it. Okay I'm satisfied with that. I've been to two hearings on this and I'm studying it every week with everything I can find. This is a very dangerous kind of a situation, even from a health standpoint, as testified by for about 20 minutes over in Mercer County by their local and loved physician. And I think somewhere I've got a tape of that, of his testimony, but if not, I'll try to find it. Because there are ramifications to health that I have never even considered a possibility. and so i think we need to include that as part of our rationale when we write it up and i'll try to find that counselor and get get something to you on it And the payoffs are even worse than the payoffs promised by solar. And they can run away too if we're not extremely careful and leave everything to us. And in other states already, they're realizing that the promised rates are escalating exponentially. So there's an awful lot to this that we really need to hold firm against it.

The concerns of increased Electric rates, water rates, especially in y'all's districts, I know that's already a concern. You don't need it. And the use of water is incredible. Yeah. So, yeah, that's really where we're going with this to protect.

And we have already been working with Planning and Zoning prior to this. We have workshop schedules. Yeah, and we've got

So I don't want anything coming in. I don't want anything talked about with anyone until we have that workshop and we get some language out there. But this is only for the county. It doesn't include the city limits of Parable Junction or Danville. Okay.

Any other discussion? All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries.

I actually went up to see my daughter in Park Hills of Covington yesterday, which I'm grateful that she's back in Kentucky. But they had a great Memorial Day, and so I'm very grateful for those that have served. And I'm grateful for the fact that they were willing to put themselves first. And I'm sure this is on everyone else's mind too, but if we could adjourn in Brynn Bentley's name. Hug my kids a little tighter after learning about what happened. It's just awful.

Terrible tragedy.

Yeah. Another terrible tragedy is today is Michael Meaghy's birthday. Yes. And so let's remember him and his, you know, his love and care for this community. He was all over the place and he just, you know, cared so much about so many people. And so let's just remember him today as well.

And his family.

Yeah, of course. That are still grieving. Yeah.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Cohn. Thank you. All right. Mr. Ellis.

I'd echo the comments about those who sacrificed all that we might breathe free, and that 250 years that we've lost 1.3 million people who dedicated their lives to our great republic. And I emphasize the word republic because a lot of elected officials never use that term, and that's exactly what we are. I certainly encourage everybody, and it's last minute, but if you haven't signed up for the conference, it's the big one of the year, the judges and the magistrates combined, and it's always of great value, so please. And by the way, with the judges' cooperation, with the risk to my successor and his dollars, We encourage Matthew to go ahead and register for the conference so he will be there at Gryffindor with us outside of Lexington to learn all the more quickly that he can about the processes that we go through. Judge, I think we need to know some kind of a very definitive plan on what's going on with the land that's been purchased adjacent to the Constitution Square and the exact plan when in my heart I know they're not going to have enough logs and I don't know exactly what they think they're going to be able to put up with the kind of money that they're willing to... I've been watching barn wood builders on our new spectrum recently

That would have been a good question for Tim when he was here.

Yeah, but we really need to know what we and they are getting into and what the costs over time might be. With what we're experiencing just on the laws that we have that need to be replaced, that tells you something about the incredible cost. And I'm getting questions again, Judge, about how we're going to proceed and try to push through with the state getting the almost four acres around Crawford House. We've talked about it before. We've got to find that one individual who can break it free, just like Harold Edwards just dedicated himself for a period of seven years to make sure we did not lose the Crawford House.

Harold and I discussed that last week.

Good, wonderful, okay. I end my comments by saying that sadly we learned over the weekend that Danny Lay's wife passed away. Danny and I became close in many respects and the judge and I sat in this room with a group of about eight over a period of time and Danny was very instrumental everything that we discussed about the extension office and the properties and what the young people can do there and I know it's a weekend of sorrow for him and so you might reach out to him on the loss of his wife. Thank you Judge.

Thank you. Mr. Boehner? Junction's Voices are still trying to work on, I think our big thing is the Balloon Festival, so we're still working hard on that. And otherwise, I'll have some more news later, but right now we're good. That's it. I think you're missing something. Oh, graduation of my granddaughter.

How could I do that?

How could I do that? Yes, my granddaughter graduated, and we were just so happy at them. You know, she's very sad for the loss of someone. It really affected all of them and their hearts are broken with everybody. But we were proud of her and now she's going on to EKU. I've been there three times, so she's going to go in her mother's and her grandmother's footsteps. She wants to be a social worker. Which I was like, oh, okay.

Yeah, that's a hard one to say. It's great.

The roads weren't paved there when I graduated in 69.

All right, county attorney.

Yes, last week I got to attend the NCAA Division III Championships in Palm Springs, California, Transylvania. My daughter's golf team qualified for the championships, pretty awesome. They didn't win, but they weren't last. And my daughter's name is Emery, and People say, well, who won? And I say, well, Emory won. Well, Emory College won. But that was awesome to be able to do that. Hopefully not a once-in-a-lifetime thing, but who knows? So I had to be there for that. Thank you all for the passage for the money to help for Casey's Law. I think that's going to be really good, and hopefully that will encourage more people to file Casey's Law because, I mean, the drug Addiction's not going away. It's just getting worse and worse. And I think that that's important. And, yeah, I got a really bad call Friday night. It was about Brynn Bentley. She was on my tennis team. We're really close. We're really close. And pray for her family, but also pray for the other person involved because that changes his life forever. as well. Was he from Boyle County? Yes.

I know he went to... He just graduated.

He just graduated. So it's just very sad. It's not even set in yet with me. It's just crazy. I just can't imagine it.

He graduated with Brian's brother.

Oh, three hours apart. Big funeral Thursday and I'm speaking and just pray for everybody that's speaking because it's going to be tough to get through that and I can't, you know, I'm feeling bad, but I can't imagine what her family, if I feel as bad as I do, what they feel like, and just pray for them. This is just awful.

Yeah. I can't imagine.

All right. Ms. Jeeley? That's a hard one to follow. Oh, it is. Considering my... My first love daughter is home from California. First time my grandchildren have been in my house. They're getting a taste of freedom. Next meeting we will review the administrative code. So I'm going to email the code out and let you kind of look at it. If you have anything you'd like to see looked at please let me know. We'll also be passing the 2026 wage schedule and There's been some changes to personnel policy that will need to be adopted by ordinance at the next meeting. The EMS building is transitioning over from design to construction. I'm just waiting on Mike to give his blessing. He's okay with it. Okay, great. Then we can move into construction documents and get a final cost so we can go get our bonding. We got some preliminary costs of the courthouse, cupola, renovations. It's the total project looks like it could be around two million and that's about what we anticipated with our bonding. So go ahead.

I ran into folks this weekend who still think that we are absolutely taking the tower down.

Doesn't look like we're going to have to do that. They can put some scaffolding. This this construction company feels like they can put scaffolding up and do it in place. They'll take the bell out.

That's huge.

Yeah.

So what did the state give us for that? They said something. They gave $2 million for the roof. For the roof.

Okay. To our senator and representative.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we, the roof estimate, I think it needs some more work. I really do. I don't I don't know if we're on the same page there. But we're having a meeting with the AOC in the next week or two because they are going to have to vacate for either cancel court, vacate something for a period of time while we do the work. While the roof is being replaced. And so we've got to get them to understand that this is moving forward and it's got to be done. So that's, I think it, I can't think, we've had a lot of meetings. Yes, we have. I think that's it. Okay, thank you.

All right. June the 4th, there is a Kiwanis event at Constitution Square. It's called Pies in the Park. They would like as many people that can come to purchase a pie. I think they've received all the bakers that they need, but they do need people to come and attend and purchase pies for the fundraiser. I'm baking two pies. Me too. Okay, yeah. My daughter's baking two pies. You didn't tell me yes or no.

Yeah, I just didn't tell you what kind.

Okay, what kind?

I'm not telling.

I can't tell. No.

Two pies.

It's two surprise pies.

It's going to be a surprise to me too.

I don't make pies. Okay, so anybody that can come out, come on out. It's going to be fun. And then on June 4th, we'll also be having a workshop with Planning and Zoning to discuss data center. So that way what was that date?

June the 4th. I want to make sure.

There's something to do with the house, the mobile housing. Isn't that part of it?

There's a couple things on there.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

I think there's some of the modifications to avoid

here okay fiscal forward yeah okay workshop 10 o'clock here june the fourth i got that yeah the pie auction six yeah or uh it starts at five between five and five thirty it will start yeah okay um okay so we've had a request uh that we adjourn um in memory of Brim Bentley, which I think is very appropriate. A lot of mixed feelings this weekend. You had the celebration of graduations in the county for both high schools, and then you're met with tragedy a few hours later. So it's been a very emotional weekend for that. At the last meeting, I did not request this, but I think we should. It was a little probably too raw at the time, but Mark Gordon's mother passed away, Shirley Gordon, and her husband, George, worked for the county for many, many years. He was a road supervisor, and after my uncle passed away, he became the road supervisor. So I think it's only appropriate that we... adjourn in memory of Shirley Gordon as well. She contributed probably a lot of potluck dinners to those guys out there over the years and made different things. So if we can adjourn in memory of Brynn Bentley and Shirley Gordon, I'll accept a motion to adjourn. Measured Ellis, is there a second? Second. Measured Boehner, all those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed nay? Motion carries.

We're adjourned.