Fiscal Court - Regular Meeting

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All right, we are live per the IT uh director, the man behind the curtain who tells us when all is ready and and able. So, we will call this meeting to order in the Bull County Fiscal Court, March the 24th, 9:00 a.m. And do we have a quorum? And has this meeting been properly advertised? Yes. Okay. Very good. I want to thank Susanna for being here. Uh she is going to fill in while Kina is out recovering uh from her surgery. So, um, it's not a position that she is unfamiliar with as she did this for, uh, several years under Judge Wilder. So, she's very familiar with with what goes on in fiscal court. So, thank you for your well being here, Suzanne. All right. As we open our meeting, mag sleeper, I'll ask you to have our invitation.

All right, let's pray, shall we? Father God in heaven, uh we want to thank you for the blessings of life and liberty that we enjoy and we thank you for the opportunity to serve the citizens of Boil County. Uh we thank you for those who have joined us today and we ask your blessing upon them and we seek your guidance upon this court. Grant us wisdom and discernment and strength as we make decisions that affect our Bo County citizens. Help us to truly seek the true welfare of the people of this community. And Lord, we ask that you protect those who protect us, our first responders. And as we are reminded of the war and turmoil in the world today, we ask for your protection on all of our servicemen and women wherever they may be serving. We ask all this in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Amen.

Amen. Thank you, Master Cleveland. All right. At this time, we have a special guest. We have Allison Perez. Allison is a senior at Kentucky School for the Deaf and she is going to come and lead us in our pledge of allegiance. If everyone will stand alsible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. And we have a certificate for you, Allison. All right. Here we go. Okay. All right. Certificate of recognition for leading the pledge to the Bull County Fiscal Court. And for our guests who would not know the history, we are a community of firsts. And Kucky's School for the Deaf was the first in the United States public private uh venture of serving the deaf community. Uh beautiful campus that they've had. Uh and just wanted to make sure that the record understood. Uh, one more thing that is very important and God bless you and thank you for for being with us today.

Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Thank you so much. Next, we will approve our prior meeting minutes and that is the meeting held on March the 10th. Is there a motion to approve? Motion. Mr. Kellen. Is there a second? Second. Mr. Sleeper. Any discussion on the minutes? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. All right. Next, we'll have our budget transfers. I have Good morning. I have budget transfers $119,266. Make me pen has a motion. Is there a second? Second.

Me sleeper. I'll get you on the next one. Any discussion on budget transfers? All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Cash transfers. Cash transfers. I have cash transfers from general fund to the road department for $50,000. Make that motion. I got more. She got to the jail 150,000 and general to EMS 150,000. Okay. I have a motion by Masford Ellis. Is there a second? Minister Bogdner. Any discussion on the uh cash transfers? Always glad to get my roads taken care of. That's absolutely right.

All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. And next we will approve our bills. Miss Elena. Good morning. Good morning. All right. You all will see in your uh your bill packet there. The total amount of bills we need to pay this meeting is 534,147.666 and there are no last minute add-ons. Oh, great. Make a motion we approve the bills as presented. Okay, we have a motion by Master Gay. Is there a second? Mastery. Any discussion on the bills? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. Next up, we've got uh three proclamations and the first one will be uh for the Red Cross, Bluegrass Proclamation. Uh March is Red Cross month and we have uh Priscilla Johnson and Tyler Moore with us representing Red Cross today. Um Lynn couldn't be with us today, but she has sent two fine representatives. So, we appreciate you all being here. So, I'd like to read this proclamation for you all to present. Whereas, March has been designated Red Cross Month in the United States since 1943 to honor and recognize the humanitarian mission of the American Red Cross and its volunteers in serving communities in times of disaster, crisis, and need. And whereas the American Red Cross provides life-saving services across the nation and around the world, including disaster relief, blood and blood product collection and distribution, support for military members and their families, and education in health and safety, such as first aid, CPR, and emergency preparedness. And whereas the success of the Red Cross's mission depends upon the generosity of donors and the dedication of volunteers who give their time, resources, and compassion to help others in need. And whereas Red Cross Month provides an opportunity for individuals, businesses, community organizations, and governments to acknowledge and support the critical work of the Red Cross in strengthening community resilience, responding to emergencies, and promoting humanitarian values. And now, therefore, be it resolved that I, Truly L. bottom boil county judge executive and the boil county fiscal court do hereby proclaim March 2026 as Red Cross month in Boil County and encourage all citizens to recognize and participate in activities that support the life-saving work of the Red Cross through giving volunteering

training and service. Have a motion to approve. So move measure Ellis. Is there a second? Second. Measure Ber. All those in favor signify by saying I. You want discussion? Okay. I was going to do that after, but go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Protocol. Um, I look around the room and I know there are three of us old enough and uh at least my father was in the Pacific, my father-in-law uh in the European theater of war. And they all realized uh the presence of the Red Cross and they were thankful for it. And I think every uh action that's happened around the world ever since uh uh including storms and everything else, the Red Cross has always been there and certainly within the uh confines of the United States. So, thank you for what you've done.

Thank you. Any other comments? Red Cross gave Bull County a real gift. They gave us a building to start the first in-house drug treatment, which is Shepherd's House that came and took it. That's why we have the building we have for $1. $1. Gave back to keep things going in the right way. We thank you. That's good. Anybody else? All right. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I.

Any oppose? Nay. We thank you all for being here today. I want to present this proclamation to you to all point of order. Your honor, if I could have one of your members just snap a photo or I will be fired.

Thank you. Thank you so much for this. We appreciate everything that you do, Mr. Everis. Thank you.

Well, of course, you are welcome to make comments if you like. If you all would like to make any comments, you're welcome to do so. I would simply thank everybody for their support of the Red Cross. We are a 100% donor and volunteer driven organization. We wouldn't be here today without you and we wouldn't be able to serve you if it wasn't for your time, talent, and the treasure that you've done. So, thank you. You all have a great day. Tell the folks from Washington County hello. Thank you. Y'all have a great day.

Thank you. All right. Next up, we do not have a representative here. they bring this in early and we go ahead and do it and then we present it at court uh the first available date. So this is the arbor day proclamation. Whereas the commonwealth is graced with diverse forests that extend from the hardwood forest of the east to the cypress uh sloths of the west. And whereas trees are a sustainable resource providing significant environmental, economic, social, and human health benefits to Kuckians. And whereas over one-third of Kuckians live in a community actively managing their urban forest, spending over $12.4 million on this asset. And whereas Kucky's forest products are a $19 billion green industry, employing over 59,000 people. And whereas trees enhance our air quality, purify our water resources, protect our soil, supply a source of renewable energy, and provide valuable wildlife habitat. And whereas forests improve our health and offer a place of recreation and soloulless. And whereas trees and healthy forests enhance the quality of life for all Kuckians. Now therefore, I Trilly Bottom Bull County Judge Executive hereby proclaim April 3rd, 2026 as Arbor Day in the state of Kentucky. I urge all citizens across this great commonwealth to participate in the observance of this day by planting a tree. Our reward and that of future generations will be a more beautiful Kentucky whose health and well-being are sustained by this great natural resource, our forest. So everyone go out and get a tree and plant a tree on Arbor Day.

Is there a motion to approve? Motion second. Second by measure Gay. Any discussion? Yes. As a member of the Arbor Day Foundation, I would like to express my appreciation for that organization. It's another great thing to come out of the state of Nebraska as well as myself. So, two gifts. Two gifts. No, seriously though, and you can get some very inexpensive trees if you join them. So, it's a really really good organization. So, yeah. And you can go through the Farm Bureau and get a half off on any tree that you buy. You Well, there's certain places. It's not like any tree anywhere. There's like a couple places. Yeah. It's during certain periods of time. Yeah. And the conservation conservation

district has free conservation. I don't know about the farm bureau. So you might be Yeah, conservation district does the free tree seedlings. And I'm not sure on the date. I haven't heard of the date on that yet. I don't know if anybody heard it or not. So, all right. Any other comments? All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I.

Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. All right. Next up, we have uh the child abuse prevention proclamation and Tammy Wilson is here with us. Where there you are, Tammy, the CASA director. And so I will read this for you to um accept. Whereas April is recognized nationwide is National Child Abuse Prevention Month, a time dedicated to raising awareness and strengthening efforts to protect children and support families in our communities. Whereas every child deserves a safe, stable, and nurturing environment in which to grow, learn, and thrive. Whereas preventing child abuse and neglect requires a collaborative commitment from families, neighbors, educators, community organizations, and local government working together to support children and strengthen families. Whereas organizations such as CASA and other child advocacy partners work tirelessly to ensure that children who have experienced abuse or neglect have a voice and receive the support and protection that they deserve. Whereas National Child Abuse Prevention Month reminds us that communities can move from challenge to change by promoting education, strengthening families, and building supportive networks that protect children before harm occurs. Whereas the blue pin wheel has become a national symbol of child abuse prevention, representing the happy, safe childhood every child deserves and reminding us that everyone plays a role in protecting our youngest citizens. Now therefore, be it resolved that I, Trilly Elb Bottom, Bull County Judge Executive, and the Bull County Fiscal Court, do hereby proclaim April 2026 is National Child Abuse Prevention Month in Bull County, Kentucky, and encourage all citizens to work together to promote safe, stable, and nurturing environments for every child. Let us reaffirm our commitment to protecting children, strengthening families, and ensuring that every child in our community has the opportunity to grow up safe,

supported, and full of hope. Done this uh day, 24th day of March, 2026. Is there a motion to approve? I make a motion. Master Bogner. Second by Master Gay. Any discussion? Judge, I think that it's very important to acknowledge our county attorney, Chris Harren, for his passion. Uh certainly over the eight years that I've served on the court and witness what he and his staff do uh for prevention uh and prosecution in cases of child abuse. Thank you, Chris. Thank you very much. Very good. Anybody else?

Well, my daughter's a social worker, so she's seen the the end. That breaks my heart. And I know somebody's got to do that. So, I'm glad we have people out here that can do that and and make it a better place, you know, and Chris and everyone to try to help these children that can help themselves.

And Tammy puts her whole heart into it. Um, she's she's there. She's available whenever she is needed. And uh if she can't do it, she'll direct someone else to do it and she'll get help that's needed and um taking care of of children that u have to live in unfortunate circumstances but always trying to make a better place for them to grow up and thrive and live and and be a productive citizen. So thank you Tammy for all the work that you do.

Kasa has been one of the organizations I've always supported the most. to serve on their board and like they're that voice for a child that can't speak for his or herself. I think they're great. We have a lot of great social workers out there but they're bombarded with cases. So to have, you know, a CASA worker to be that voice for this child, uh it's it's it's very important and they speak up in court and advocate for that child's best interest. So thank you very much. All right. For all you do. If you don't have a heart for it, you couldn't do it. So, they won't stay in right.

Yes, we have some some great volunteers that, you know, right from right here in our community. And so, that's, you know, one of our biggest needs is if you know, you know, someone or you know, yourself would like to volunteer, then we're always seeking volunteers. But, you know, the main reason that I like to uh, you know, get out and and spread the awareness is is for that right there. Because, you know, even though it might not be for anyone sitting in this room to volunteer, the more you learn about it and the more it's like ingrained in your mind, it's easier for you to speak about it when you're out and, you know, in the the public. And, you know, um, child abuse and neglect is a hard topic to talk talk about. Um, but it happens, you know, um, all across our county and all across our state. And um you know we are striving to to work with other organizations for the um um reconnection of families.

You know the the healing of families. We, you know, we do a lot of inservice with um all of the um um different organizations across the community that deals with mental health issues, substance abuse issues, uh all of that because, you know, ultimately, you know, yes, we want the safety of the child, but we also want the wholeness of the family. Sure. All right. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Name. Motion carries. Tammy, if you'll come up and Chris, would you like to join us?

Sure. And we will be having a pin wheel planting. It's April 2nd. Yes, it's April 2nd. Um, so all the pinw wheels that are planted out on the courthouse lawn represents one one child of the petition that was and for B County. Okay. So, as you're walking by them, the pinwell represents a healthy, happy, you know, childhood. As you're walking by them and as you see them stop, say a prayer for those children. It's their prayer that they're going to end up finding happiness and completion and for their parents that they'll find happiness and completion because none of this you know happened there's maybe what 5% of the cases that we see is just pure evil and other is circumstance. So just saying you know saying a prayer for the the family as a whole and for the children.

Thank you for that. Yeah. And I'll send the time too where us Yeah. I'm still waiting for Judge Petri to see what time he Okay. Don't put me right in the middle. I'll let you hold that. How about that? All right. Thank you. Thank you so much for being here. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Love you. I saw that. I thought I was like, well, if you want to get a plane maintenance on it. So, April 2nd. Yes. It's pin wheel day. Okay.

All right. Well, thank you and you have a great day. You too. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Uh, number eight has been moved to the April 28th uh, meeting. So, for Volcan 4 will come on April the 28th. And next up, we have farmers market. Dan Crossfield, come on down with the farmers market agreement. Good morning.

Yes. So, uh, I'm here today. Truly asked me to come today to, uh, lock in the lease for the 2026 season. I'll fill you in on some information on what the market's been doing and what we're going to do before we talk that. Uh we had some winter pop-up markets. The first one in January was cancelled due to not being able to remove the ice off of the steels parking lot. So that was a disaster. But February was a huge success for uh the it was like a perfect weather day, but for the time of year I was not expecting the turnout. We had over 300 people come through. We were set up at Morly. It was a lot of fun. A lot of the vendors were excited. So, that's some vision for the future on maybe an all year market. We just got to lock in like an indoor location. So, uh and then we got one coming up this Saturday and we're in collaboration with the garden club and the arts commission and the extension office to do a community plant and seed swap. So, this is something new for Danville and Bo County

on this size scale. Well, the garden club's always done one, but it's been real small. So, we're going to up it, maybe turn it into an annual thing. Come and bring seeds and swap them. And there's going to be some real rare stuff there. One guy's coming out of Washington County that has um some kind of plant that people thought were gone and wow, he's brought it back and revived it out of China or something. So, we got a lot of people on Facebook looking at that. Now, when is that again? This is this Saturday. Yes sir. 10 to one at the extension office. Okay.

And then I want to discuss about our annual donation we've been given to the county. Um fill me in on some information. Does that money go into a general fund for the square or for all state parks? Oh, it stays local. Stay here.

Stay local. Yeah. Stay here. So, I was talking to Trilly a little bit about instead of just giving you money towards the square, what if we actually put our minds and efforts that we have within the farmers market to put it to use. So, I was talking to her about possibly coming up with some kind of grass seed regimen over the next we we're looking at the next three-year program type thing. And we're going to ariate, add some dirt, add different kinds of grasses. And the kind of grasses that we're adding will be good for like shaded areas under the trees that are bare. It'll be good for our high foot traffic that the market brings to the square. You'll actually have some green in the winter. Um I don't know all the different grasses. I have three grape mines within the market that's working on it, but it's right at the same amount that we've been donating. So instead of giving you just the money, we would like to do this instead as our donation. So, the the donation was and I think that's fine, but the donation was kind of one of those things where we put it back in the endowment fund for the actual park itself.

So, all the work that we've been doing to the um to the structure all over there, that's that we just put that money in there so that way we can, you know, redo that. Um, and it was it was just kind of like, you know, when when Jamie and I really pushed to have the market put back at Constitution Square, um, it was at no cost. And that was one of the drivers that moved

Yeah. the farmers market out of Constitution Square as previous courts was trying to charge money for it and we just said if you happen to have a profit one year and you have the ability to maybe give back, you know, we'd like to see it go towards the endowment and we've that endowment fund has been great because we've been able to do a lot of a lot of building. Yeah. We've we've seen it since we've been there. Yeah. And so that's that you know that endowment fund was started previous courts and it was it was great. And so that that was kind of where we said, "Hey, if if you're going to see see something come out of this farmers market and you have the ability to give it back, you know, let's let's try to spruce up that park because it only benefits you all." Absolutely.

I like that idea and I don't mind you doing both. In in my head, that's like the only negative thing the market does at that at the park is we damage the grass. That's 100%. which was the funny thing because other people on the court were really opposed to having it there because they were worried about the grass being damaged and and other things. And we several of us wanted to be like, well, you know, that's what a park is for. You know, grass will regrow. We do. And the vendors that are like consistent and really busy where they move a lot in their little square booth, their little spots are solid dirt. And it it kills me because, you know, that's that's the only negative thing I see other than it's chaos down there Saturday mornings.

That's all positive. That's all good, too. That's a good thing. Yes. It just makes me I'd be worried if there wasn't worn grass out there. And the fact that there is worm grass is awesome. And some of the Yeah. Some of the farmers were like, "Well, we know grasses better than most." And one of the farmers is a landscaper, too, and he's like, "I got an aiator machine." So, I was just like, "Well, we don't really have the funds to donate the money and do this, but the idea is to get back to the park, right? So, I'm good with that, too." So, it's a three-year program, and I think after that, it'll be like a very minor maintaining. I've already made contact with Casey so he's aware like if we approve it we're rolling in this week to start it start doing it because we're in that time of year.

Yeah. So instead of a monetary donation it be an inkind donation. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Just so if you could I mean you probably need to do that for your own health but if you could track it in some way too so that each week you're we can say you know you can kind of present this is what we did and you know in kind that that helps greatly. Yeah. And I give you the report at the end of the year like I have been and we'll before and after photos and all that good stuff. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna use it for our marketing event. Yeah, for sure.

And yeah, like to echo what Master Cullen was saying there. Yeah. I mean, I think having a wearing the grass out is not a bad problem. We we want to see it built back up and replaced, but um that and chaos and it's just like in when people talk about having a parking problem downtown. I'm like, when you don't have a parking problem downtown, that's when you got a problem. So, having a parking problem is a good thing for a vibrant downtown. We got people moving around. You got cars downtown. You got people doing things downtown. That's a good problem to have. We're actually very much working on something to actually have more of a dedicated covered spot for the farmers market. Like, we have a long-term Yeah.

idea for the farmers market that long-term goal. I'd like to be in on that. that when when we when we get to a point, we will definitely keep you informed because and and with you saying that, I want to throw that out there. We have a new member on our board and she has done farmers markets and farming her whole life and it's what she does. She started a nonprofit in Pennsylvania for a food is medicine and now it runs itself and she's done these things in Germany and Switzerland all over and she is like a grant guru and so when you move forward on this please let me know cuz she could probably

please yeah because that's one of the big things the state actually has a lot of grant money towards farmers markets uh and that's one that we'll be leaning on so that's great to know. Yeah. Yeah. Please come in on that. Okay. So, with the lease, so thanks for that. With Yeah. Yeah. Now, we need to approve the lease agreement. Nothing has changed except the date. Uh everything stays the same and just need your approval to um the only renew the lease for one year. Well, I'll make a motion we go ahead and approve it and discuss something. All right. Mel, second by Mr. Gay.

The only thing I have with section two is, you know, it's got their standard days in there, which is great. Um but then it says the market may utilize the above described premise premises for certain special events provided written approval thereof is obtained from the county following a request submitted to it by the market at least 30 days in advance. Is there any way we could kind of cut that down because if something pops up and you guys have some I would love to see some night markets, you know, on Thursday nights or whatever. Yeah,

those are kind of things I I think would just be great. And I don't want you guys I mean you only have how many weeks of the actual farmers market. 26, you know, so 30 days on a 26 week schedule is is a lot of time to ask. So I don't know. I mean, do we want to do 15 days or or write something in there that kind of just days? We got to prove it anyway. So does it even need to I think the only the only reason that we have something in there is in case something else has been approved for use of the park. We just have following a request submitted to it by the market. Yeah, I think yeah, it just has to be requested because we just want to make sure there's no conflict, right?

And if you throw in there something as long as there's no other conflicts or conflicts have been, you know, we can change that. Yeah, we can we can make that change and I just want to give you that property to do as much as you can with farmers markets as possible. Absolutely. Y thank you so much. Okay. So, we can include that in the motion uh to make the change and go ahead and sign without bringing it back. Sounds great. Chris, you got any second? No, I can I can make that work. Can you I believe in you, Mr. Ellison? Uh my only concern on grass is uh we've had two summers of drought. Uh judge, I'm I'm not sure what we do in terms of the flowers in the president's circle. Uh do we water that?

Mhm. Okay. Um, we may need to coordinate with your volunteers. So, I know some of the grasses they're planting, the roots are they have roots that develop deep for drought reasons, so they can pull moisture that's way down. But as you're getting started, we're already late. U most grasses farmers will plant in February and March. Um, so we may need to give them access to water. judge if if you're volunteeper. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. They'll have access to water. Sounds good.

They got access to whatever they need. Perfect. Perfect. April 25th is opening day. So, all right. April 25th. Okay. For smiling faces. All right. Sounds good. Um, actually, I won't. I'll be like a chicken with my head cut off. Okay. Thank you. Any other We'll make that change to the uh lease agreement. And any other discussion on the lease before we approve it? Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you. Go go go home and take a nap.

I'm going to judge question. Tom brought up the governor circle and the flowers. Is that what what who's supplying the flowers for that this year? County FFA. Good. We've already we ordered them back in January. Yeah, they will be red and white. Wonderful. For America's 250. Yes. Okay. Uh Shepherd's House, Jerry Thomas, welcome.

Hey, hey, thanks for having me. I just wanted to update uh fiscal court on some changes that we've made. One thing that was uh very important to us early on, me and Barry, was the community involvement. This being the first community treatment center, literally. Um we thought we kind of we had uh you know, between Roger Fox and Bryce, we had some good gobetween. So, we've made some moves. Um first, I want to have James Ellis come up. Um I got James through a buddy of mine that I played college football with. He went on to be an NFL football star and he actually coached James when James was a high schooler. And uh James specializes in bringing programs in. Um I don't know if you guys know but SAP programs now you can get a peer support license while you're actually in SAP. That was James. He brought that in. He's also an expert with grants. So we want to start focusing on some grant money like we had back with the jobs. I don't know if you guys remember, but that was about a half a million dollars that we were able to use and pay for some of the jail staff, which comes off of your all. So, James is going to focus on that and he is the uh for lack of he is the uh director of Boil County program. So, he'll oversee the SAT program and he will oversee the community treatment center. and I wanted y'all to meet and he he's going to get with Chris and uh Chris will let him know what his expectations are, what he expects, but we just uh we had a bigger presence. And Dan, well, when I was here, I think Barry had me speak at

every public school and church within a 25 mile radius. I probably spoke four times a week. I was at the Rotary Club. I mean, you name it, I spoke there. Um and he's going to bring that down. He's already booked y'all an NFL speaker for the Boil County High School. Um, so all right.

So he'll be the go-between. So anything y'all need, you can go through James and he's going to slowly meet y'all uh throughout the day. He'll be popping in up here and and and introducing himself. So that that that was our first move we made. Um our second move was Stacy. Stacy, come on up. You guys all know Stacy. um she was a probation officer when I was out there running that jail program and she walked in and I thought that is the um most compassionate tough lady I've ever met. Um well, when you're dealing with drug addicts, you've got to be both. You can't be a walkover. And uh she's also the only human being I've ever met that I've never heard a bad word about. Like you talk to enough people, you'll eventually hear something bad, but but we never have. And um you know, Barry and I took a lot of pride in that jail program out there. And when I was out there running, I think we went 5 years in a row with the number one program in the state. We had the highest recovery rate and the lowest recidivism in the state of Kentucky. And uh we went out get Stacy cuz we want that we want that number one spot back. So that so we hired her for that.

So she'll be coming in. And last but not least, I got K. Thomas. And that's my child. guys don't know that um Uncle Barry raised him out there at that jail cuz he needed one good parent and that was Barry. Um but my wife is the Kentucky Lawyers Assistant Program. She's the key director. That's your vet hurricane. Um so if you're a lawyer in the state of Kentucky and you have a mental health issue or substance use disorder, you go through my wife. My son is director of operations uh for the shepherd's house and my daughter-in-law is the lead counselor at our Max Welton. And so drug and alcohol rehabilitation has become the family business. I thought it would be football. We fell short and we are we are a house of counselors. Um that is all the new faces that you guys will see. All three of them will be heavily involved in Stacy's basically in the jail, but I'm also going to pull her out from time to time to because everybody everybody knows Stacy and she's a wonderful communicator. So, we're really excited about the new team that we have down here. So, I just wanted you all to meet him and then James will start appearing monthly to give you all the reports that you get.

So, get your contact info. Yeah. So, we're going to have him come in and give you a breakdown, financial report of what how much money we save by each person we pull out of jail. Now, jail census is way down anyway, but you were there, Barry. We're up over 400. We're 411 the day we opened that program. We were at 411. I think they're a little over a hundred right now. You got Well, you got to kill somebody to get jail time now. What happened? So, that's what happened. But that's all. If y'all got any questions for any of them or me, let me know. I got any questions for welcome.

Thank you. Glad to have free food Fridays coming back. Do what? The free fruit f free is coming back. They should be back. That's awesome. That was great. Yeah, that would be really great with and hopefully we'll sponsor a couple of them in the court. Yeah. If you approve my allowance hostage slush on you. All right. Well, thanks for being here. We appreciate everybody coming. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Jared. Welcome, guys. Thank you.

Y'all have a great day. How are you? And to just flow right on in comes the jailer. Good morning. Jailer's here for his budget approval. I'll give you uh our numbers real quick. Today we're housing 39 boil, 63 state, which uh 32 are SAP, zero for other counties, and puts us at 111. So that's our number. Okay, good.

39 inmates. That's all we got in there. Losing money on 63. I love it. Oh, no, wait. They gave us another $4. and they're going to pay their medical now that they, you know, they have to pay anything above normal now. So those $95,000 prescriptions and $10,000 prosthetic legs, which you know, I'm sure they'll still argue that that's basically Trump RX. All right. What you got for us, Mr. Budget? Okay. Anything you want it? I move we approve the budget as presented. Second.

Got a motion by Master Gay, second by Maser Ellis. Any discussion on the budget? Brian, I've got a good friend from Coell County and he just was shocked when he found out what our budget is. Do you recall in rough numbers eight years ago when three of us came in? When I was uh Barry's chief deputy, I think we were almost 5 million, four, four and a half million. uh right around there.

The public really needs to know that the state is enjoying the opportunity for them to express their savings on the jail when they're not paying us what 1/4 of what we experience. And that goes against our Boil County taxpayers. I don't think we can say that enough, especially since right now today, they are debating the entire state budget and instead of working on and passing House Bill 557 as we had hoped it would come through, uh they're just making it a line item on the total state budget, which once again puts our Boil County taxp payers in jeopardy of severely subsidizing the day.

I have I have those numbers that you the expenses in 201920 was 4.286 million and with no Mercer County now your expenses are 4.79. So look at that expansion

and you know we were doing the numbers and we've actually reduced our like4,899 from last year and that's what you know we're still losing revenue. We we've lost our phone money. We're not making you know with the state we were making a little over a million dollars a year by housing them. But really that was just cash flow because it helped us pay the electric bill, make payroll. It was there's no profit. We were still losing money, but it just helped us pay our bills. So, there's a big difference. Um, and like I said, I don't know what's going to happen. You know, it $4 is nothing. It wouldn't matter. I mean, about the same if they took $4 away. That that's what how much difference it's going to make. It's not going to help us.

Um, I'm reserving the language that I'd like to use for that $4 that the state is offering. Boil County only inmates, you know. I'm okay. Stay with me. I know you're okay with that. Um, if that's something we need to do, like I say, I'd like for the fiscal court to vote on it. I'd like to get a letter from the fiscal court. I'll write a letter. Um, I did look and I've talked to Chris about it. I don't know if he's had a chance to pull it up, but um, KRS says the jailer has what's the word? It's care, but I'm also custody and care. Well, it's that, but

no, there's another word in there. And so I think that gives me the legal ability. Um I wish I brought that today. Um come on Chad

to to do to say oh who we're going to house and who we're not going to house. But just to be safe I think if the fiscal courts that you all are the governing body you all write the checks and the jailer is my constitutional office. I think if we both do it um we'll go there. The one thing we need to remember though is our staff inmates. So, we may need to let just not bring anybody new in. I'll need to work with Shepherd's House and see if they want to move them to one of their other locations if they have room or let them go for a couple months because I don't want to mess up anybody's treatment. Um, I think that would be the wrong I'll make a motion that we phase out state inmates by the end of calendar year 26.

So, you don't want to wait and see what happens with the end of legislation, see if anything changes. Are you ready? Second. Third. Okay. You got to state inmates by June 30th. No, by the end of the calendar year calendar year 31st. Okay. Judge. Yes. Discussion. Yes.

Um I I think Brian expressed the same sentiment that I would have. Um I think we'll have more punch if we would wait two weeks where we know exactly. Uh even politically, we don't want to get crossways with the speaker prom who's helping us um with Senator Amanda Bledo who's helping us, with Daniel Elliot who's helping us. Um I think we'd have the cart before the horse if we passed that amendment today. Um we will know two weeks from today exactly what that's going to say. And before you made your motion, I was thrilled to death with what you said about a letter and it would go over the judge's signature with spaces for all of us to sign. And that's when I think we could drop the hammer and let them know precisely why and how. And I would make sure that the Herald Leader and the Courier Journal get that letter on behalf of 70 communities out of 120 that have jails. So I would urge

and I would feel better if we waited to end. And here's one of the things I was down there two last week um and I talked to somebody who who deals with this. I'm not optimistic about what it's going to be and I don't either. I'm with you.

Well, and let me just chime in. I would say let's do it. If we're if if we have the votes, let's pass this. And if they if they agree to pay their fair share of the bill, then we can always agree to accept state inmates back. I I'm I'm thinking of those three important legislators I mentioned, and there are more because I know of more from a conversation I had yesterday um with legislators. Uh but they are fighting hard for us right now. I am not at all optimistic that they're going to be able to move above the insult. I I was reserving saying that word, but the insult of a $4 increase.

Well, we accepted it years ago and nobody said anything. That's the thing. Two weeks will keep our good relationship with key legislators. And here's the thing, too. Like I say, I was down there last week with KCO for pushing House Bill 557 and and I was told by somebody I trust that's been around for a while that says, "Well, if something like this never gets passed the first time that it takes two or three times. You they're like, "We'll probably get a little bit this time. The next time we'll probably get more and the third time it'll come around." We've heard that true.

Yeah, we have. But this is the first time we've ever had movement like we've had since I've been here and I'm you know so going into my third term and Barry's never have you do you remember any kind of movement like this when you were in you for 16 years we had movement with one like that many they took a dollar a day off my first year. Yeah. And then they took and then they took the the juveniles out. Right. Yeah. So that was $100 a day. So Brian, you're saying you'd just like us to wait a couple weeks? I I'm I support it. Whatever we decision we make, I support, but I think I'm like Tom. I think let's let's don't Okay. Roughly

until Yeah. Then you know there's a time when to push button and I think in two weeks will be more What's the benefit of waiting two weeks? I'm still not following the

after spending 26 years in Frankfurt and Washington. After spending 26 years in Frankfurt and Washington and knowing the dynamics of what I'll put on the record, hell week is this week in Frankfurt every other year because it's budget year and it could be termed by our legislators and others with whom we've been working all the way to Western Kentucky. Um, I I don't want to risk an insult when two weeks will only work to our advantage to have a clear view of exactly what is going. I urge that we not concur with this and I'm leaving our advantage. That's

we will know precisely. Well, you're a money man. You're not going to be able to keep

the last number that we just approved a few minutes ago was 66 on a million dollar budget. You like details. I understand the political atmosphere and the incredibly good relationship that we now have even with the speaker prom. We don't need in two weeks of delay. We don't need to take any chance of losing a relationship that's been built up over at least 8 years with some of you guys helping with we when we've been working with the legislators and walking in on the wrong floor and being allowed by the president of the Senate to go through a tunnel where you're not supposed to go through. Um that's because of relationships that we do not need to bruise. Why are you anxious on a 66 cents type of concept of having an error made? because I think it's time to cut our ties with statemates and so it doesn't you know I don't know that they are going to be able to come up with enough money to pay us to keep inmates they're leaving a few hours ago and we're meeting in the morning with KJ and they're supposed to have some I'd like to hear what's going because there there may be something I don't know yet that they're going to share with us tomorrow and look two weeks that go to kill breakfast I mean we've done this for 20 years what's what's two more weeks

well how about this how about we vote on it today and then We can we can amend it say that we will not send a letter for two weeks about that because at the end of the day I mean I I I will push in my next term when we rebuild the jail which is what we're hitting next after we get everybody out of that government services to have a smaller boil county only inmate jail. So what does it matter? We're going to save the taxpayers, you know, money between the end of 2026 till we have that jail built by not taking these state inmates. That's the benefit of this. you know, they they may throw us a couple more dollars here or there, but at the end of the day, we're not going to have to keep paying for all of these extra expenses like the insurance, like the fact that they don't even give us money, you know, if somebody gets time served and that they dangle that out that they'll carry it out there as well. So, in the next term, I I plan on not having any state inmates if I can convince the court. If you would amend your motion to say that we would prepare a draft letter to be and and you you can put it in absolute terms that once we have all the details in two weeks that draft letter would be finalized with the details we will know in two weeks and that the judge with our signatures will shall the judge shall and that's that legal word counselor uh uh send that letter two weeks hence

and I you know if I'm going to have to come back two weeks anyway and redo this let's just do it all at once that one that gives me time to look at numbers change my budget cuz we're not I'm going to lose revenue so you all going to have to put in I think you all need to know how much more you're going to have to put in to the jail we're not we're not getting revenue we're creating cash flow. Well, but it's still money coming in. It's still going to affect my cash flow. And I need to sit down and look at what my budget if they're going to be gone in December. That that changes my budget. I might have to come back up here and say with my hat in my hand say, "Hey, you all did this. I need money." So, it gives me two weeks just to get to look at numbers to get a better feeling before if I'm going to have to come back anyway.

And I would prefer, you all do as you wish, but I would prefer let's just do it two weeks. Your budget is due when? Today. April, so it would have to be an amendment to I don't have to come back and amend my budget. I I need to know what the numbers are going to be financially. You all need to know of being good stewards of taxpayer money. We we just there's some stuff we need to know and I would just feel better if we could do it all in two weeks. I'm okay with it. I'm not against it, but I just would rather wait two weeks. It gives me a time to look at my numbers. Okay. So, the motion we have on the floor is to phase out state inmates by December 31st to uh prepare a draft letter. I'll make that I'll make that I don't mind making that part.

You're making an announcement to make a draft letter. Okay. Prepare a draft letter uh that will be ready to send out in two weeks. Does that sound right? That's my motion. Okay. With that amendment? Yeah. Is that your second? Does two weeks put us in another court meeting? Three weeks. Well, it be three weeks actually. Three weeks. And that gives me time. All the better will know all the details

because listen, this is not going to be an easy thing. Okay. I just can't Okay, open the door and send the state inmates out. It's going to take some preparation. We still have the south inmates. What am I going to do? I need to meet with Jared. Hey Jared, how do you all want to do this so I don't hurt them? because they've been a great partner to us over the years and I just don't want to so I'm going to bring up two two things. Maybe we amend it that we have them removed by the end of the 26 27 fiscal year. Okay, let's do that. So that gives you more time to prepare. So 6:30 27. Yeah, I think so. I mean if you guys are okay with that.

Yeah. And then um also um giving I mean I made this same comment I think it was last court session jail committee probably should have time to discuss this. Good point. Yeah. Um because I I I'm you know where I'm going with this whole jail thing but it's respect out of the jail committee. Thank you. to make sure that they have time to discuss it with the jailer. So I say, yeah, draft it two weeks, three three now technically. Well, drafted in two, present it at the next one.

That's perfect because we we'll see the draft um in preparation for the next court meeting. Excellent. And I'm also good with both of those amendments to the motion to 630 to 6:30 27. Okay. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna read it again. Motion in and the jail committee review. Okay. Phase out state inmates by June 30th, 2027. Prepare a draft letter to send in to prepare a draft letter in two weeks to present at the first fiscal court meeting in April and jail committee review. Does that sound right? One clarification is

review by jail committee. To whom do we direct the letter? Well, that's who I'm going to have to figure out. I think it's going to be the department correct. I think so, too. I think so, too. And then there'll be some carbon copies to some very critical people, including the governor's office. Yeah. I I will mention my my concerns with this whole 557 bill, and I'm glad that it's been dispersed, but they're pushing regionalism very hard. I do not want to be under the umbrella of the state that kind of starts mandating regional well that isn't optional that when I did it's optional now yes right as it's optional now but who knows in a second or third iteration what will happen

that we don't want to be under the thumb of the state saying you are have our inmates you now need to especially if they give us throw us a little bit more money it seems attractive and then we go into this whole regional thing but here's the thing too though this now I'm not for cuz we're still technically going to be housing state inmates and those are coming for what we call control intakes. So when they're sentenced in circuit court, they have 45 days to uh to figure out if they're going to go behind the wall or if they stay in the jail that way classify them. So now when we go to rebuild, the department correction still may give us have to give us approval on whether we build or not. So we don't want to go in and cut our nose off the spider face. That's why we need to to make sure we do this the right way,

right? And not make everybody happy. Get everybody angry with us in Frankfurt. And then when we go to try to build a new jail, no. Yeah. We're not going to let you and they'll come up with different reasons. Now, I'm sure we can sue and and and win. But, you know, that's going to be in another two years and more money paying for that. So, I just that's why, like I said, I'm not opposed to it. I just want to make sure we do this. So, this is not going to be something that we can just say, "Okay, get out." You know, it's going to take some thoughts process ducks in a row.

Exactly. We need to know, "Okay, what am I counselor? Help me with this." Um, this court really needs to understand and the public really needs to understand what happened with the Kentucky Supreme Court just within the last 10 days. Two levels. And the last one before it goes to the Kentucky Supreme Court or what court s uh sends something forward to the Kentucky Supreme Court? Not a regional court. What is What is it? Appeals court.

Appeals. It is the state appeals court. The appeal the state appeals court sent the $200 to $300 million problem that the state has created over time that has been won by this guy standing right here. Not by me, by and his board and everybody else uh pushing hard. That actually was brought up as we walked through that corridor two three two years three years ago. um

wi with the with the president of the Senate when he found out we were from Boil County and we mentioned jails and at that point he said we're looking at a lawsuit of 200 to $300 million which could theoretically be a requirement of the Commonwealth of Kentucky to pay us back among 70 jails. this we might be in hell week this week just with what we've talked about so far, but we're going to be revisiting something that your board's not going to let go on that. Um, and this is a crisis made by the state over the past 25 years,

longer than that. Yeah. But yeah, that that somehow needs to be rectified. So, so everybody needs to understand that we're looking at something this big when the expanse of this whole campus of our court isn't big enough to Here's what upsets me and it upsets most of the jailers and I gave that information when we had our budget meeting. If you figure the average cost for them is $116 a day to house an inmate in a state facility. Well, they're want to pay they're paying us $6. If they just paid us $65, which is what it costs, they're still that's less than half what they're doing.

They, you know, but but not they're taking advantage of us. And that's what makes me mad, especially representing taxpayers, right?

That, you know, I try to be a good physical steward of their money. And if they just paid us half the $65, we we would be okay. We wouldn't have a problem. And covered their medical, but still less and they would still save money and we would have a system that worked. And that's that's why we need to make a statement loud enough. We've tried over the years, you know, they feed us this crap every year that like, oh, the local officials, you know, we we really respect you guys or whatever, but they never listen to us. So, uh, we really need to send a statement saying we're not housing your inmates anymore. You could have paid 65, you could have paid 75 instead of 116. Now it's your problem, not ours. Well, so

I just like before we throw a punch, I just want to make sure we got our feet planted. So, do you like the mo Brian? Do you like the motion as amended like five times? The latest version I read. We don't have to decide today. I like to say come back in three weeks. That gives me a chance to look at the budget or give me talk to Jared and those people that's going to be involved. I feel like you're the expert in the room about this issue. So, we've got another expert over here. model. Yeah. And magistr I mean the motion you've shown great respect and you've gained my vote. Call the question. Yes. All right. All those in favor of the motion. Would you like it read again?

Is it forward or no? Okay. Don't want the motion read again. You know what it is. Okay. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Thank you. Now we'd like to approve the budget. I don't think we did that. Did we all start this? Okay.

Hey, Brian, did you in your budget? Did you have those devices? Anything in there for you? Oh, wait. Okay. I just I didn't see it. We need to do for county if we redo the budget. I'll make a motion we approve the jailer's budget. Okay. We have a motion by Master Gay, a second by Maser Ellis to approve the budget. Cool. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? N. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. It's been very entertaining. Thank you.

See, buddy. Thank you, Chad. All right, next up, see if you can pop this. EMS Director Mike Rogers. And Miss Jessica Wigington. Bringing the big guns.

Yeah. Thank you, Judge, and fiscal court for the time today. uh when we started out on the path of the crisis response team, I don't think any of us had an idea of what it would kind of turn into and how busy we would be and think the difference we're making in the community. So, um a few weeks ago, we were we hired Jessica as the program director of the program. She's been with us from the day first day when we wrote the grant. Good idea. uh it's just it was too busy for me to keep up with and she's the content expert so we we we brought her in to do that. So she's going to present the uh possible grant that you'll consider today. Okay. Thank you.

So I think everyone got the notice of funding in our packet this week.

This grant also requires a match from the fiscal court. So not as lively as our jailer but still asking for money. Okay. Um and it is 20% the first two years and 40% the third year. So it is a bigger ask from the community on that third year. It can be an inind donation still. Um but that's really the biggest piece for you guys um to consider. The grant is a nationwide grant. Uh they are awarding 14. So, I don't know. I'm hoping that our chances are are really good. We don't hit their sweet spot. They're really wanting people to open crisis stabilization centers like our impact center in Lexington. That's kind of their line one. Line two is that crisis response team and you know their objectives and facilitating mental health. We will be working on this grant more closely with developing relationships with our jail with ESO and PD. And so that's something that they want to see. And then this would create a 24-hour crisis team. Um that is the main goal is that 24-hour coverage. And so that's what we will be working towards. It is needed. Um just last night we had a 3:00 a.m. call for a suicidal young adult. So young younger than me. So they're young.

Yeah. Um and so you know that's something that I hear often from our EMS staff is you know when are you guys coming to night shift when you which you know we need you 247. So this would be a way for us to to work towards that. The grant is due on the 30th. So we will be very busy this week if this is something that you all approve and we move forward with. that we've got our outline prepared and some research ready to go so I think we can get it together. What what amount of funding are you request are you are you asking 42,000 is the grant amount right um the grant amount is 3 million 42 million is the total is the total sorry I looked at the wrong

it's divided you're okay it's divided amongst the 14 so it's a $3 million grant so it's okay 2020 and 40 but it can be inind so we can get as creative yeah that as as we need to be is their um I saw the housing comp. So the four funding four c four areas is crisis stabil education center which you mentioned treatment services housing access and electronic health record systems and technology

and our gelato system that we use is one of our larger live line items for the crisis response team. So that would be able to be rolled into that budget um with this grant. So we work with our unhoused population frequently on on getting housing and things like that. So I feel like we've got that bullet point covered through our team. Well, that was going to be a question I had for um for uh sorry um the housing piece, housing access. We have those houses that could be going up uh there on um between third and fourth

home. Yeah, home. I don't know if that would be any part of this puzzle or not. I had not included that to be a part of this puzzle as we've conceptualized this grant. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if that just having that piece in the community, right, might give us a better chance of this. Yes. But um I I I'm all about it. Just I mean just so we understand that the ask is either cash or any kind. The first year is first two years is 600,000 each and then 1.2 million for the third and fourth.

So we really have to come up with a good game plan on on how we can inind those expenses. Yeah. So, um but I mean that is for $3 million. Yes. And it's a possibility. Yeah. Right. But these are the things we're asking. Yep. These are the things and it'll be put in our budget. Yep. Yep. I'll make the motion we uh go ahead and apply for the grant. Okay. You have a motion by Master Cullen, second by Master Gay to apply for the grant. Is there any discussion? We'll get busy, right? Seeing none. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Nay. Motion carries. Get busy.

Apply. Apply. Apply. Apply. Jessica, how's your spectrum service? It they dropped off an excavator yesterday. Wonderful. So hopefully they're going to get busy on that this week. Only seeing some folks. But tomorrow I'm going to be with their local rep who's based in Louisville. And I will mention that we need to Sergey came out and met with me. He's very sweet and I trust that he's probably out there now digging. All right, I'm a text away. Thank you, Mike. Sorry. It's not the end of the month, but from the calls I've seen coming through, it seems like you you guys are on a huge update for this month. I don't know if it's the warm weather. I don't know what it is.

It's definitely trauma season. Everybody's out. Everybody's out. Yeah. Um, and that's why I was coming back up to just want to thank our EMS providers along with Dr. Grant, our medical director and coroner. He has all the big scenes that we've had over the last month. He's been there with us working alongside and continues to compliment our crews on how calm and collected. And I think that's just a this goes back to the training on the hours. I told the judge yesterday, we report every month how many hours we do training and it's just, you know, their commitment to that. I just want to thank them and Dr. Grant and you all to be able to be there when the community needs it. So,

yeah. And we have the best. We do. We do. I mean, if you think about it, there's been some very traumatic Yes. things that they've had to go witness. And, you know, it's one thing to see one, but a couple of them seen, you know, several in a shift. And that's that's really hard. I think we talked about yours of what five fatalities in the last three to four weeks. Yeah. Yeah. It's sad. So, uh, on a positive note, you want to you want to give a shout out on the new gift you guys got yesterday from Lowe's?

Yep. uh over the you know over the weekend Lowe's donated a a grill for our crews to be able to have a have a way to be able to get outside and grill some hamburgers and hot dogs and whatever is want to thank Lowe's the management there for doing that was a great great uh gift for them and that we really appreciate that so thanks to Lowe's they've been a great community partner for a long time Jason volunteers to put it together it's already together assembled together it's already assembled I'll I'll come over and use it that's I I've already been looking up the weather to see, you know, what my schedule lines up on. Thursday it's going to be 80 and after that it drops. All right. Thursday.

Get you got a gas tank. Kick out of EMS on Thursday. Fill that bad boy up. I'm going to Sam's on Wednesday. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys very much. All right. Do we have uh Kendall Clinton out there anywhere? Or Roger Johnson. I'm sorry. Roger Johnson. Roger Johnson. Roger the Dodger. You're up. You're up. He's going to give a pothole update. I love it. Fix some potholes.

I just I just got two things on the agenda today there, Mr. Cullen. And that's what we're going to work on. I think judge point order. Well, we took beds for uh our stone and rock and stone and also for paving and asphalt. So, do we want to judge do we want to do that separately? You can. That'd be fine. You can. So, yep. Do we on the stone and rock? We have Cole Stone of course as so I just need to get an okay on the on that motion.

Okay, we have a motion by Minister Ellis second by Minister Bogner. Any discussion? Do you know how much increases the dollar? It's actually to make to from last year it looks like about a dollar a ton. Okay. On the on the rock for increase on Okay. from last year to this year. Right. Any other questions, comments? Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. Any oppos? Name. Motion carries.

And okay, on the black top and asphalt, uh, it was real hard on that one also to pick somebody. So Allan company is one I recommend for that. So very convenient. Yeah. Yeah. So uh so we had a little bit of a increase on that also.

And actually I was surprised you know the way the oil prices and everything were on that uh for paving surface paving is what we usually get those them to do. And it looks like and I and I was actually surprised it was 25 cents a ton different more than last year. So, I mean, I was I was kind of shocked when I when I got that. I figured it'd be a little more than that, but but they they try to do us pretty good. Motion to approve, too. Okay, we have a motion by Mr. Delos. Second. Second by Mrick Sleeper. Any discussion on the asphalt?

Okay, seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. Any opposed? That motion carries. judge. While we got Roger here, Roger, run. We uh I think we all got the communicate from KO that I'm interpreting to say they're out of the salt help business. Did you see that? I I don't I don't know. And of course, the salt bid thing hasn't come up with KO, so I don't know. I don't know. There's a webinar What was that yesterday? I don't know. I think I said I haven't heard anything. I sent something to Rita that I'm not sure.

Okay. I haven't talked to Okay. today. But if that happened this week, I haven't I haven't talked to her about that. So, I don't know. So, KCO, what you all understand is out of the soft business. So, it' be an individual thing on that. I guess they got a little salty about it. I wonder if there's some way to collaborate with other counties or something, judge, if you were to try to communicate. Yeah, I can do that on our next legislative. Yeah, that webinar thing though, there was a lot of information that I saw just on the front part of it. Yeah, that talked about I'm sure you could probably go back and watch it, too. It was free webinar.

All right. Get some information. And yes, we are out patching potholes and lots of potholes. Cutting trees and getting ready to mow. Getting ready to mow and cleaning ditches and putting down some rock and all the good stuff that you do. Don't mow too soon. We might have one more snow before it's all over. Because I took the plows and the softer. Oh, okay. We're not having anymore, y'all. No more snow. No more snow. No more. Webinar starts at 11 today. Okay. Oh, there you go. Okay. Good deal. It's free. All right. I'll keep eye on that. Yeah. All right. 11 today. All right. Thank y'all. Thank you. Have a good day. You too.

Appreciate it. Okay. Good. CTP Director Kendall Clinton. Good morning. Morning. Morning. As you all are, I'm sure well aware, this is America's 250th birthday this year, and there's a lot of stuff being planned uh for this spring and summer. We've already had a couple of events.

Uh but as part of the discussions, you know, we've been meeting for over a year. Part of the discussions was to create something um that wasn't just an event, something to leave behind to remember uh you know, this year. So, uh, several parties, the, uh, public art committee, the CBB, Melanie Crossfield with the city, uh, have been talking about an idea and came up with, uh, doing a mural. So, um, that's been discussed for a while. Some design ideas been pitched. We talked to Kirby Stafford, who is the artist that we like to use, local artist with Kirby signs.

Um, came up with a design. So, that's, um, been gone through several times. Yeah, the location for this would be the side of the Cwell Banker building which overlooks the front of the courthouse. Uh that nice big wall there on the second story. Um the uh uh owner Mina Kirkland is uh we haven't signed a contractor with her yet, but she's good with the the mural design. We just have to get it get it in writing for her. We've talked to her several times. She's good with it.

Highly visible location. You can see it when you come past city hall. It's a gathering spot for a lot of events, the brass band festival, uh bourbon festival, the summer concert series. So, it's a it's a it's a great location for this. It would really complement the park uh and the courthouse itself and the design itself has an a aspect of the courthouse in it. The coupon, you have a picture of it. I do. Yes, please. those around. Um, so at the uh March 9th city commission meeting, Millie and I addressed the commission about the big hurdle, which is the funding.

So they agreed um in principle to fund a portion of mural and ask us to come to you all to ask if you would fund half of the cost of the mural. So what's the total cost? the total cost between um there has some has to be some prep work done. The walls got to be painted and there's some damage to the wall, but between the prep work that's got to be done, which will take about two weeks, and Kirby's work, which will take about two weeks. So, we got about a month when we're going to have a articulating lift on the sidewall work going on. It's going to be just over $19,000 for uh

just under $19,000 for the prep work and uh Kirby's fee for his voice. So $19,000 for the whole process. Yeah. The whole project and the city is paying half. The Yeah, the city said they would pay half and ask if Okay. I would come to federal court and request the balance of that. Judge, yes. I'm with you, Tom.

I'm with you, Tom. Absolutely not. No. We always talk about Danville and Boil County. We have We have had this argument so many times. I'm shocked. I am absolutely shocked that we would consider this design. There is no way in the world that they're going to borrow our courthouse. I love the Christian cross on the top, but my goodness sakes, how many times do we have to say Bo County, how insulting it is to come to us for money and not talk about Boil County. No,

I don't even think it's worth a vote. Here's here's one of my issues and if I'm understanding this, we've done a lot of work in that area to really focus on veterans and the memorial out there. That's where this is going, right? It's going above above it.

Yeah. I I just don't think it I mean, this is a very dark bold thing here. I think that would just really overshadow all the wonderful work we've done for that whole memorial area. Uh yeah, I I I don't I don't love it. Um I mean, maybe on the side of there.

I think I mean I think it was a good spot for the m for a mural. I've always felt like that big blank wall needs something because it's just a big blank wall. And so I I'm all for a mural being there and being part of the 250 and Left Behind and all the things, but I do think we need some more design work in my opinion. Yeah, this is this is not This looks like it would be better over on the uh you know the building there, the for the the new art building they bought rather than right next to the courthouse.

Is there any reason why it didn't say birthplace of Kentucky? Uh that was a design that uh Kirby had come up with. We did talk about Yson's birthplace of bluegrass about whether that needed to be changed and this was the design that was this is probably 2 months old. Um so and this is what was presented to the city commission. So who was involved in this design? Who were the people who brought it forward? Well, I said the public art committee, uh Melanie with the city and Kirby's the one who actually came up with the design. we kind of he was given the parameters of a mural to uh go in that space and that was the design was come up with.

I mean it's really nice looking design. I just wish you could include Yeah. Yeah. I think we I think we just maybe see if we can get some more work on the design. Maybe instead of birthplace of the blueg grass maybe had Bo County

Kville cannot be any bigger than Bo County on this. We've talked about this about the magazine. We talk about sponsorships where Danville's this big and boil county is down here as something that if you have a spy glass, you might be able to see it. There's got to be equal representation, equal visible representation or I absolutely cannot spend pi dollars from Perryville and any other uh area in my district. And Melody couldn't be here this morning. she had a budget meeting, but I'll I'll get with her after meeting and go back over this.

I mean, I can't say enough. I mean, it's better over where that Marini cafe, that's where this this particular design would probably look better than over here. You know, I will say, Tom, the only, you know, generally there's always a you know what, a cornerstone city that most people know more than the county. You know, Lexington is no more than Fyet. Louisville is no more than Jeffersonville. So I I I agree that O County should be in some sort of design that's going to and Junction and Perryville and there there are so many important things. My gosh, the Gettysburg of

Tom I understand. I'm not saying it's they're not. I'm just saying that a lot of times when you see a lead city in there, it's because that's that's the anchor city, I guess, is what they could kind of call it. Totally agree. Yeah. But and in this case it is in it's in Danville and the and Constitution Square is in Danville and I understand Perville and and I understand your point. No, not don't get me wrong but they can do you know they can do murals as well in in Junction City and Perville but I would I would hope they would include Bull County in their murals. There there can be little visible things of Junction City of Parksville of Mitchellburg of Perryville. Um,

peril. Peril has its own mural, right? The side of one of the buildings, but no. Well, they have one there on the side of the furniture store. I And I still hear about the Danville water tower deep in my district. It doesn't say anything at all. I mean, that that riled the court the um city council in Perryville when that took place. So, how long could we before we get How long does it take you to get another design? I mean, I like I have to talk to Millie and then uh go back to Kirby. We were really hoping to get this done in advance of Fourth of July so it'll be there for the parade and right

uh so there's a whole timeline involved there, too. Well, I would encourage if that's the case, if they're looking for half the money, a little maybe half the collaboration as well when they're putting this design together and saying, "Hey, you know, maybe we should involve somebody from the county if we're going to ask them for half the money uh to see what they think should be in in the design that goes in Danville, but yet is also, you know, B County." What What's the cost? 19,00,000. Just under 19. And they take it for 250. Oh yeah. Yeah. We can The theme 250 is the starting point. We're paying half income. Mhm.

Because that's what brought us here as a county because and Kirby does great work. I mean, you know, I think I think this would be great in a certain location, but it's not here. So, are you saying a different design might work at the at the location they're wanting to put it? Is that what you're saying? I just don't want to take away anything from that. I don't know. It would be nice if we had some sort of veterans up there. It might actually draw people towards what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. the mural income and incorporated some of that, you know,

but the city's going to have to come up with everything on that one. I guess what I'm saying is I don't if the place has already been it can be determined that's fine. I just think that's something that complements Yeah. the area the area instead of with this one.

Okay. All right. So, no action today. We'll see. Uh Kendall, let me know when you've got a new design or a whatever and we'll get you back in here. I hate to recommend this because Julie is on overtime, but I'd sure like to have her or perhaps somebody with better color sense than me from the court on this on this committee. I can recommend a color. No, never mind. This is fine. Sorry, Tom. I had to do that. Thank you, Kendra. Appreciate it. All right. No action or rejecting.

No action. Well, it's up to you all. No action. No action. Okay. He's going to call and let me know and we'll put him back in. Told Jamie to cut. I know. We got to get Next up, Magistrate Jamie Gay and Magistrate Barry Harmon. Recycling grant and composting grant. Woo. This is going to be interesting. That's right. It's like those old guys on the Muppets. So, if we get these grants, then it's my doing. If we don't, then it's Barry's doing. Okay. All right. Got it.

Now, so on behalf of the on behalf of the solid waste and recycling committee while Angie is out playing in some beach area, I guess. Um, she might be listening, so that's as much as I can say about, right? or she'll watch the tape. Anyway, that's right. She's making friends with the cartel down there.

Right. So, we have two grants to present and hopefully approve today. One is a recycling grant, which we have through the years benefited greatly from actually both of these these grants, but this one. And it it does require an inind um to the recycling grant. Oh, it's the other one. and it's for a uh Bobcat skid steer loader. And a lot of these things are for, you know, our expansion at the recycling center. And so they'll be used in that area for that and safety.

Um there's also a scrubber that's in in part as part of the grant, which is a basically clean the floor piece of equipment. um recycling baskets, uh cardboard miniers,

which would be just placed around the community for gathering of cardboard and then um work platforms um that help with safety. So the total uh equipment request total is 181,39567 and then with the inind amount the total grant request plus the match goes to 229 229,21567. Um, so, okay. So, the incind is the 47,000, right? 820. Yes.

Okay. And so, I make the motion that we approve the recycling grant. Second. Okay. We have a motion by Minister Gay, a second by Minister Harmon. Is there any discussion on the grant application? Seeing none, all those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carried. All right.

Okay. Composting grant. And then next one is the composting grant which we have uh also benefited from and we the air um burner was one of the things that we got a year or so ago with this grant. And this time the uh recycling and salt waste committee is recommending we also evaluate you know reviewed this and are recommending that we uh get this Bobcat excavator along with a grapple rake

in the amount of 132,42740. Um, and again, this is a grant application, so we may or may not get this. Um, it also has an inind contribution that goes along with it. Let me get to that number. 36 36,09 bringing the grant request plus match to 168 168,43640.

And read number two. And so this is uh this is a piece of equipment that helps improve our ability to load more um effectively the air burner and uh helps us through these two grants will really greatly improve our ability to dispose of our u brush debris um and avoid having to pay 60 tound 100 plus thousand dollars in chipping cost that we've had to in the past. So this helps us to uh more effectively dispose of our brush debris. So I'll make a motion that we approve this composting grant as well.

Okay. Okay. I have a motion by Master Gay, second by Master Harmon. Is there any discuss discussion on the composting grant? Yes. under project sustainability number one. What page? Uh that's they're not they're not numbered. It's right before the it's the third from the page. Let's see. It's the third case in the end.

Okay. Thank you. Yeah, that's the easy way. Six down. Um okay, it's project the number one says with an established site and operational infrastructure already in place and 8 to 12 years service life of equipment. This ensures immediate project sustainability. With our determining that we aren't going to use that as the site for it, is that kind of making us have to use that site? No. I respectfully equipment, Colin. It's the life of the equipment. It's not the life of where the the air burner is going to be. It says I had the same question

with an established site. Yep. So that's not going to tie us down. You're absolutely positive. Yeah. It says with an established site and operational infrastructure already in place. Yes. And an 8 to 12 year service life of the equipment. So this is the the the bobcat should last about 8 to 12 years. Right. We will be going back to them in two years saying we want another Bobcat for this same project. So

Mr. Cullen, I could agree with you except that two goes with one. Currently, our site is not generating revenue. Rather, a site that provides a place for the community to dispose of tree limbs. I mean, it it absolutely locks it in to Junction City and I think this language has to be changed. I would say that would be the case if it mentioned Alum Springs, but it doesn't. Currently, our site is not for generating revenue, which it's not saying Alum Springs. Alum Springs is not generating revenue.

Okay, that the language of that is just that it's that we're not looking to make money off this project. We're not looking to make money off of this equipment. It's just that this is a uh a site. All of our sites are are basically non uh profit generating sites. Is there urgency of moving this before we have that meeting that we were going to have last week? Yes. Yes. Cuz that's why she had us present it because the deadline present it because otherwise she could have waited till she got back to present it. So we needed to move this forward.

So there's absolutely no chance that this will stall us moving our site. Yep. Okay. insurance. Even though even though uh because the I'm sorry,

one time we were in here, we were getting ready to vote on that burner and you all said everybody said, "No, it doesn't have to go in Alam Springs." I said, "Okay, I still don't want it cuz that's where you're going to put it. I know it." And I looked at rudely, put my finger all out here. I rewatched it and said, "I know you're going to put it in Alam Springs. I know it." And then guess what? Where is it now? with this has caused me such a headache. So with understanding that everybody says this is not going to delay anything in moving the burner. I want to make sure that's

and Matt should right and I've said before and I I want to make sure that it's burning correctly. But the reason it said springs is that's where our brush is right now. So we've got to dispose of what's there before we can move it. Right. So I that's been my position from the beginning. Well, the Trail Alliance, uh, when I was talking with the Trail Alliance guys, they were like, "Take the big stuff, burn it real quickly, leave the rest, and let it rot." And I thought, "Well, that sounds good to me." Actually, that was brought up by somebody last week or last year. It was at the Trail Alliance meeting. But I mean, here, too.

Yeah. So, that's good with me, you know, if that's what we have to do. This piece of equipment will help it burn more efficiently because we will be able to get what we need to be getting in there and that's dry material that doesn't create the the smoke situation that we've had from the wet.

I've just gotten an estimate on concrete for 480 square ft 3 and 12 in deep and it's $10,000. You can't put one big rotted asht tree on a 480. That's small. I mean, so when you And that's the size of this room basically. So when you think if and when we're going to be up on dry ground, i.e. a concrete slab, then you're probably talking about 75 or $100,000 to put that on a site that we don't know exists at this point. I just think I'm going to offer my personal opinion. I think we never should have bought the burner. I think that we should have burned things as they go. We will never have all seasoned wood. We will never have all dry wood. And we will always have a smoke problem regardless of where this is put, including inside what I would call the Danville circle of folks who will have wet wood burn. You realize that FEMA uses this air burner up and down rivers that have milliondoll homes and have no problems burning the wood on the side of those uh canals because that's the most effective way of getting rid of all of those dried pieces of wood. We already have a concrete slab out there, but you can't see it because it's covered with mulch that is just thick and thick and it's slush. This

We also didn't buy it. It was It was a grant. Oh, yeah. We bought it with federal money. Yes, we bought it with taxpayer money. We I can read that.

And it's it's better than the money we spent shipping wood. That's making a problem. Matt owner, I tell you right now, I do not like the location that it's at. And I will continue to say we need to move it closer to the city of Danville because that is going to be the biggest contributor. That being said, right now there's only a little bit of brush out there. There's some big limbs and stuff out there. We are getting into windy season. We already have some. Believe me, I felt it at my job. And we're going to start seeing a lot more uh trees and branches coming down. Well, they're cutting trees to make the bike park. So, that's that I mean that but that's a small piece of what we're going to start seeing go out there. Yeah.

So, and those are green wood for a year. Temporary. I I I I will tell you right now, this will be a temporary spot for it. I don't I don't like the idea with that. If it's if it's temporary, we're moving it. I drive up and down that road, too. I don't like the idea of big large trucks coming up there with big large pieces of trees any longer than we have to. Um I think, you know, I I would love to see that convenience center shrunk in a way that it's more more effective and we can kind of tuck it out of the way. Bike Park is going to be go out there. It's going to be a huge draw. But the the important thing on on the part you brought up is project sustainability. The project we're talking about in this is the piece of equipment, not the site. Okay.

So, all right. That's that's the big thing. Magister Cullen makes a very valid point, man. Twice in one day with the wind that's coming in. I've loaded my little pickup truck twice with just the limbs from the last two weeks. Uh so yes, we're going to have not just additional limbs, but with the dead ash trees coming down in my district and others, uh with the wind that's coming, I would make a motion that we accept no more downed trees and tree limbs and that instead we put it all now on Fred Kaine property. So that once we get the burner moved,

there's no room. Then we could be over there. And I'm making this judge as a formal motion whether I get a second or not. We have to vote. Aren't we in the middle of a motion first? All right. I'll hold my motion. Your motion. We'll get that one done and then go. Yeah, because we're still discussing the application. Yes. So, okay. Are we are we finished with the applica? Okay. All right. All those in favor of applying for the composting grant signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Nay. No. Okay. I don't know how it's going to come back. Right.

Judge, I would like to make a motion that since we are only compounding the problem by taking any wind damage mentioned by Magistrate Cullen anymore from today and moving forward that we move since we have seven acres just around around Fred Kane or more. No more than that.

Okay. Regardless, um if it's going to be wet and on the ground at junction and become a compounding problem, then let it be wet and and uh uh sitting on property that we already own that will be in no way uh a a a site that people say, "Oh my gosh, look at all that junky wood that's out there." And so from this day forward, my motion would be that we moved all dead trees and animals in cooperation with Danville. That they moved animals. Animals. Danville. Trees. You meant trees and trees. You said animals. I said Danville. No, you said you said trees and dead animals. You did.

I did not. I said Danville. You got four people telling you. You did. You didn't hear me right. Uh you don't want to tell my motion is that both the city of Danville and the county in picking up dead limbs and trees henceforth that they all be moved to our Okay. And if we don't move the burner out there, then what are we going to do with all that dead wood? Then where are you going to put the burner? Well, I think the uh solid waste committee should come up with some possible locations. I think they should do a location study.

The burner temporarily needs to burn at Allen Springs. This piece of equip This piece of equipment will allow us to grab it from the top, not the bottom where all the water is to have it burn with less smoke. We're still waiting for that. And those will be green trees with all the manufacturer and the air quality and all that, you know, we're still waiting on that. So yeah. Well, I'm I'm still waiting on the meeting with the city as to show the location where we anticipate it going. So I think Josh said that he's already got the location mapped out. But the location has to be approved before we can even consider anything else.

But I think we need I think we need to again like I asked, we need to go out and see the location so we have an understanding. Tom, the issue with with placing it at Fred Kane, there's seven acres, but there's not seven acres of available space to have the stuff taken. It's mostly buildings and stuff like that. And then they're all over the camp, but they but they have their trucks that are out there as well. So, there's no there's no actual space for that stuff to be there. I would like to see that, you know, the spots. Yeah, I I'm very interested in seeing the spot because I think that's probably going to be hopefully will be the the main location, but it I don't like Angie is going to work on the meeting when she gets back from vacation.

Okay. I talked to her before she left and she's going to work on that when she gets back. All right. In the meantime, I'll go ahead and get a meeting set up with Josh. The certification has to come jointly with that piece of property being designated. Yes, it has the location has to be approved and then we have to apply for another permit. Yes. I don't think the permit transfers. I think it's per location. But that's why we need to get out there and look at it right away so that way we can start approving. I mean we can start applying for the permitivity.

Judge and I talked to Angie about that before she left. Go check this. I see. And is the is the location where the brush is actually placed is that is that jointly owned property city and county the whole I think this all needs to be a city county decision and u as we've been talking and I think that as we've also always said the majority of the brush that gets dumped out there comes from city the city. Yes.

So, you know, Tom, so to your point on the trees in the county that are falling, you know, obviously there's still there are some in the city falling as well, but you know, most people in the county burn their brush whether legally or illegally. That's right. On their own spots, my neighbors um and they just they just burn their stuff. Uh they don't bring it to us. So I do want to clarify that but I would certainly a city brush issue. So So when you were speaking about that you're talking about the projected new site only city and county both the current site is city county only.

I understand that but but you're also talking about the fact because I think the city is going to want to speak to their constituency our constituency because it's part of the county. But in all seriousness, um I think they're going to want to make sure to have an agenda item to talk about what we're talking about as a joint venture of moving a burner into deep into the city limits, right? And let those folks understand what it is. And your and your motion, I think, would only cover the county. the city would still be able to bring their brush to their jointly owned right

facility. That would be another part of it. And I I would caution the passion on this because as you often articulate, you've got that big blue area that the people that do bring their brush to Alen Springs, if they had to make a longer trek from Parksville or Forkland or wherever to bring it to Fred Kaine, that would be something that you don't want to have to deal with, nor do you want to have to leave the person coming in after you. And I want to mention I drove it and of course it's been so long ago. It's like two to three miles difference. So it's not like we're taking it 40 miles away. Good boy. Depending on the train.

Yeah. Yeah. Ste lane. There's no train. Stewards lane. You go down is like Yeah. Just two or three miles. So Okay. We're not sending it. So what are you doing with your motion? Yeah. What are you going to do? I think Wait. I'm I actually have not formally made it because we were working on the other issue. So, I'll recede from making a motion. Okay. All right. Next step. Thank you all. But can we can we get those meetings like as soon as gets gets here? Can we get those cuz I had actually asked for it to happen within two weeks and that's correct. And I understand she was going on vacation, but there was there was some time. Well, and yeah, and we had conference

and we had conference and we've had budget meetings and Yeah. Okay. But yes, we'll get it scheduled. Thank you. All right. Uh, Treasurer Shannon Green. How Oh, um, do we need to throw in here on the motions that payable on we uh I don't think you do with the grant setup. Yeah. All right. Cool. We want to check the grant pays. Yeah. So it comes out of our budget. We get the money then we pay. Okay. Just presenting the monthly settlement. Everything's looking good from last month.

From February. Yes. My goodness. That's all I have for that. Make a motion. We acknowledge. Caffeine's definitely. We just acknowledge. Just acknowledge. Yeah. Done deal. All right. Thank you for all your hard work. I appreciate it. And then service agreement. Service agreement for with eyeworks. I've got Rusty here to help me. OKAY. WELL, HOW CONVENIENT. RUSTY. Just in the nick of time.

I works is the software that Rusty uses for contractor licenses and everything he does. and the we'd like to when we renew it in July, it's $10,000. We'd like to add a credit card payment system to that. It's $1,200 for the year for Yeah. year. Yeah. I'll make a motion we accept that. I'll second.

Okay. So, we are got a motion to approve the hour uh agreement and add a credit card payment um application for $1,200 a year. Is that right? Yes. And they said if we sign it now fees, there will be no fees until July, but we can get it started right now. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, if we sign the agreement, it's like the agreement you did before, just adding that to it and taking out the

the uh portal stuff because that that's already established. But if we if you all get permission to sign it early, no fees until they don't even start invoicing until July 1st. Okay. So, once they do that and they do start charging fees, Yeah. that goes to the customer. The $1,200 is our fee. Yep. The customer will pay a 3.5%. Exactly. Flat $2, right? Depending on the the price of what they have to pay. Yeah. Our ours is just strictly $1,200. I understand. I think we can make that up in one month. Easy. All right.

We'll hold you to that. Do we have a motion to approve? Yep. I made the motion. I second it. Yeah. Okay. Now we're having discussion.

Wake her up. I don't stop there FOR A MINUTE. MY COFFEE this morning. All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Thank you. You're welcome. Well, now we're going to paint the courthouse pink. YEAH, GOOD. I HEARD THAT.

All right. Last but not least, Miss Julie Wagner. Okay. As part of the online ordinance system that we've been working towards getting everything online. We've discovered that there are about six different ordinances that are either obsolete or need some work. And the first one that we I'm proposing we repeal is ordinance 470. It's a joint ordinance with the city of Fanville. It was to um establish an electrician board. It was passed in 1990 by acting judge Deborah Cook and Mayor John Bowling. There was never an electrician board because we ended up going with an electrical inspector. I talked to Mr. Elliott. He said this this isn't even relevant. So, um, proposing that we repeal ordinance 470 today. We'll have to send that up to the online group.

Okay. Is there a motion? I make a motion. Moroners or second? Second. M sleeper. Any discussion on just to reemphasize, you have confirmed that this is not Yes. needed. I called the inspe inspector. Thank talked to Russy, talked to Josh, talked to anybody I could think of and everybody's like, I've never heard of this. Perfect. Okay. All those in favor signify by saying I. Any oppose? Nay. Motion carries. Repeal. I send a letter of receipt so they can. All right.

Okay. Next up, we have magistrate reports and magistrate sleeper. we will start with you today.

Okay. Um went to the coffee with the commissioner and Jenny Holland on the 16th and some of the issues that were brought up um of course these are city folks but um members of the county as well. Uh data centers are a big issue to folks and um ebikes and scooters going on sidewalks and going through fast in the city was another issue brought up by a citizen and then the connector road was another big issue. So just to make us aware of what's people are thinking. Um the EDA met on on the 16th as well. Nothing too much to report. Uh JJ sent out a summary to everybody from the I from the DCDC whatever and it's pretty much mirrors what we had at the EVA. So there's nothing really more to say than that. Um uh let's see went to the KMCA spring conference and had our shoe drive which was good. And um last thing I have is um our animal control department is doing a really good job. Um I'm seeing a lot of turnaround in that department and I've been real pleased. Uh we're faced with a situation though that Randon who went on maternity leave is not returning. U she has resigned and um Alexandria Young will be going on maternity leave in May. So that's going to leave us with one person in the department basically and Jessica's been doing I mean a few months ago I would not have entertained this thought but she's been doing an excellent job and I would think we need to move forward in recommending her for directorship um moving her from acting director so with a six-month probation just because of history and such that we would um have some assurance there. So that's just a recommendation. So that's all I have. um she has been doing a great job

and we are in the process of interviewing uh for a another acco. So, um I think we should go ahead and move Jessica to the director position and then we can get the second acco uh because she's going to have to do the training and then we are also interviewing for uh Rihanna's position. So, I do think I've seen Jessica be steady throughout, especially, you know, talking about budgets and all. She she looks like she's doing. She and I have had a couple of heart-to-heart conversations and um she understands her role. Yeah,

you making that motion. So, I don't think I can make a motion. It's just a recommendation. Recommendation we can recommend to HR. Um that was actually in SharePoint. We approve that. Is that right? Is that how the process works? Director. Yeah. Yeah. With HR I work with HR. Yeah. On doing that. Yes. So, um unless there's any valid reasons that anyone opposes that. Um okay. We'll make that recommendation. That's all I have.

Okay. All right. Um, Melbs,

thank you, Judge. Um, if and with the timing of things, it's hard to even know what the conference committees will be doing in Frankfurt. But if there is an urgent development about jail funding, I will immediately get with the judge. And if any of you have contacts with any legislators, I don't care if they're from Paduka to Pikeville, everywhere in between, um, uh, think who you might know, uh, that might influence, uh, our gaining more funding. As I said, and I'm on the record obviously of saying it, I'm not at all optimistic about what we're going to hear. I'm not sure that I will hear anything other than the small group that I'm talking with. Uh and uh but I'm just saying judge that I would get with you immediately.

Yes. Um likewise, uh I've been working and you may recall that you empowered me to go to Frankfurt one day when the president out of Washington DC of the American Battlefield Trust came and visited with all of the leadership in the Senate and the House and then had an open lunchon. I believe 80 of the legislators ended up coming in over about a three-hour period of time uh when I was there. Um a million dollars could acrue to battlefields plural in Kentucky and we would be one of those gaining something of that million dollars. It's a line item in the overall budget. had conversations yesterday and Sunday um with Tom Bennett uh the fellow who handles uh about eight or 10 southern states including us um and it's alive it's being supported again by the speaker prom um and others who are interested in our civil war battle fields uh so again I'll be talking to the judge if something positive is developing on that. Um the only other thing until I give the jail report, jail committee report, um I guess we all have this request to sign in favor of a letter, freight rail letter, Mr. Cullen, from a Mike Neil.

No thanks. It's it's pro rail, so just leave it alone. That's I'm not going to do anything with that. Okay. Thank you. I I just needed advice on that. I felt the same way. Um I think Paul and I both can attest that the rail is a pain in our side. We don't need to get more help.

Amen. The jail committee met March 16 at 2:00. Present were the jailer Brian Wolford, uh Chief Deputy Holderman, uh Magistrate Paula Bodner, and myself. Uh inmate count that day 37 boil. Uh, Department of Corrections 6 uh 60 uh staff 34 other counties zero that day total of 102. Uh staffing uh full-time uh deputies at this time 30 uh part-time three and the in the academy three more. Uh we're waiting for some direction about net device. Uh so we're somewhat optimistic about that. And the windows in Constitution Square are well underway, but they're still working on them. Uh judge uh unless my colleague has any additional input. I make a motion for acceptance of the jail committee's quarterly report.

Okay. Have a motion by Mr. Ellis. Second. Second. Measure Ber. Any comments on the jail report? All those in favor signify by saying I. Any oppose? tonight. Motion carries. Thank you. And that's all I have. Judge, thank you. Measure B.

Yes. I went to the shot herd round the world and took my 93 and a half year old mom with us. We had a big crew of us all went out and everybody really enjoyed it. I thought it was really great. I mean, I just even my mom, I was like, "Oh, is this too long for you?" She said, "No, that was really good. I liked it." And she could hear it and everything. She had some hard ear. But it was a really great event. And I I think it's neat. It was uh very educational. Uh at Junction City Matters, we're still working on balloons over the blueg grass. Um I've got some information about the Abraham Lincoln, Mr. Truax. So, we're going to see if we can somehow work that in. Uh I did go to the conference and spend a couple days up there. You always learn a little something new when you go. So, and that's all I have today.

Okay. Master your heart. We did have a good conference. I got to stay all the way through it almost. Had to leave. I lost a crown. See, I was going to say you lost something while you was there. And they my dentist is gone on vacation. So, I had to get a replacement and buddy, he was super good. He was super good. And uh within an hour after we got home, uh they had a crown on. Everything was fine. Nothing nothing worse than tooth pain

because ain't nothing you do for it. Pull it or update on my dental work like a bionic man right there. something else. Sadly, you missed out on a door prize. Yeah, you did. Oh my goodness. They wouldn't let me collect it. Paid for that that crown. Down payment. Down payment. There you go. I brought the crown. Um, Mr. Co.

Yes. Uh, I've asked before about the Uber Lift ride share ordinance. Don't know has that been brought up or looked at or it's on my list. Just it's number one on my list. I just finished the U financial history which I sent out to a couple of you. So, it's the next thing.

Okay, perfect. And then I do understand that the issues with the ebikes and the scooters. Um, I don't know. It was starting to cause a problem. You know, we talk about some of the other vehicles that are whatever, but we've kind of left these ones out. So, I don't know. It's probably more of a city thing, but I'm starting to see the neighborhoods where people are are worried about kids just zooming around on these things. So, Nector Road is March 31st. Please plan on attending. Um it's uh the the proposed connector road that the city has been asking for is a terrible idea, terrible place. Um the alternatives we've asked for I don't think are any better primarily because the people that have the land that they'll have to go through don't want to give up that land. Nor do they want to a connector road going through the middle of their property. And I don't I don't blame them. My position since it's my part of the county is always going to be use that amount of money, that 30 to $40 million to fix the roads we have that need improvement. And that could uh benefit uh little widening and straightening could benefit um help take away some of the traffic and disperse it instead of just trying to focus it all on one road which that eastern connector road would do exactly that. It would it would pretty much make the western bypass road obsolete because you know a lot of people are just trying to get 234 up into that whole Garrett County Nicholasville Lexon corridor and so that would be terrible if they crossed it over East Maine and dropped it out on Lexington Avenue by the water treatment plant. So

where's that meeting? Uh March 31st inner county. Mhm. 5 to 7. 5 to 7. So, please plan on being there. Mr. Con. Yeah. One more sec. One more second. I'm on that one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the roads that need improvement, the three big ones are 34 from Lexington Avenue out to Garrett County. 52 needs to continue. And then 34 on the other side of the county. uh that needs some major improvement to help offset a lot of the wrecks and accidents we've had over there as well. And have you seen 300? 300 is terrible.

I was on a terrible terrible. I've been for three years I've been yelling 300 300. Four roads. Yeah, there you go. Now 300. There's certain areas you just don't want to push a lot of traffic anyway. It's kind of nice. Yeah. But so four roads we need to focus that. I mean and and 30 to $40 million would go far for all all those roads. Yeah. In the strongest support of what Magistr Cullen is saying about this new concept of a bypass, did the city actually have a vote, take a formal action or is this only a proposal from staff to the city at this point?

Well, it's it's staff is requesting it. It's a state road. It would be a state road. So, they're they're petitioning the state, but but are they doing is the city manager doing it on behalf of a vote taken by the city yet or because I've got an idea about our role in it since I don't know if they voted on it or not. I don't know if they've voted in on it as the city manager. it, you know, makes recommendations and then at some point if it's I believe if it were approved by the state, then they probably would act on it.

Okay. Then we wouldn't it wouldn't even be appropriate for us to take action. But anything that we can do to get people out to that hearing because I have very grave reservations about it coming through um and being approved at all. Yeah. I mean, the uh the I know that if they do a connector road where they're anticipating, there's already been a large amount of people that are upset about the idea of a gas station at the corner of that area. That would almost solidify needing the gas station right there.

What's that intersection? Uh it's Lexington Avenue 34 and 2168 right there next to u what's the community what's that church there assembly of God assembly of God the cornerstone cornerstone folks that's already been a severe issue I was at the hearing yeah and that's that's kind of where that that but that's

if you put that road through there um and and think about 2168 2168 is two lanes right now, but the state owns enough to widen it if it ever were to need to be four. They would do the same thing for this road, which would go from uh the metal recycling plant all the way through um Henen Pond up out onto Lexington Avenue. Um oh, one other road we do have to support is Ghost Pike. We do need Ghost Pike fixed that. So that those are the five, but yeah, this this would that whole road would be widened. So you've got tractor trailers that would be going over East Main Street into Hensen Bond, dropping out onto those neighborhoods that are all right there uh on Lexington Avenue. We really need to make sure that there's standing room only at that hearing because having been at I thought that was the intersection you were talking about and there is a parallel road in behind and there's not a house of the eight or nine houses that's under the value of $350,000 and the only access for the semis testified by the gas station attorney would be to come off, go behind either the church this way or off the other road this way and come in the back. And if you've ever been to one of those gas stations at nighttime, um you will not be able to see the Milky Way standing within a mile of that gas station because the glare again testified against by several of the citizen citizens who showed up u is just overwhelming. Uh so it will devalue

uh frankly I think it would devalue that entire wonderful subdivision. Uh, so drive by there and I don't think that's even a It's not an issue. That's issue now. Oh, yeah. No, it'll go right through that whole area. No, but I mean the talking about the gas station. No, no, no. It It will still on the table. It will I mean it's never come off the table. That's right. It will solidify needing it, you know, out there because you're driving traffic. Okay. You're you're driving traffic away from Walmart FiveStar Speedway. Where are people going to fill up? They'll need to fill up somewhere in that area. That particular I thought that zoning issue went away.

Well, no, it's it's actually it's gone to the city and the city has tabled it. Okay. Okay. They've not done anything with it. Okay.

So, that's that's where it's at. So, but this is so Tom to your point, this is where the judge comes in and you know her her supporting or not supporting um is been huge on this and she has diplomatically tried to find alternatives to see if it works and that's that's where we are. that's where they're coming back to say maybe we can kind of realter one of the other options, but at the end of the day, um, you know, there's really not any good options with that amount of money. You really just want to fix what we have. And so I appreciate, uh, you know, the judge not just jumping in lending support on a project where this the city's duped us in the past.

Judge, ju just to illustrate how things can happen once they're tabled. Uh, believe it or not, there was a 14 acre farm. An elderly gentleman owned it just off of the intersection in Louisville of Hursturn Lane. And if you've been on it in the middle of the afternoon, it's about like being on Nicholasville Road and Shelbyville Road, same thing. And his farm was right here. And he was turned down by planning and zoning. And the Lord took him home and a wealthy attorney came in representing another party and bam, it was developed with another gas station and two or three businesses and all. So nothing is ever dead when it's tabled. So, we have to help the folks not in my district, but the folks uh who would suffer severe financial uh circumstances if that gas station or any other business uh locates on that property?

That all you have? That is smart. I think I think that'll do for now. Okay. Manchester Gate. Uh I don't have anything. Okay. Wow. That's a shocker. No slideshow from Greece. Mr. Phillips had a comment. They they did agree. They they that gas stations going in. They they The reason they changed they swapped out some property with that church to make that entrance where they didn't have to come in. They're they they did a corner swap of land. They gave up a little piece down here.

I heard that. took a piece up here. So, if they're going to make a more of an interest, it's going to hit right, but it didn't it didn't pass planning and zoning. Like, they did that swap to try to to do that, but planning and zoning uh I was at the hearing for it. They they did not approve it, but it goes to the city now, and the city's not acted on it. I don't know about last night, but they've not acted on whether they're going to agree with the planning and zoning recommendation or or go on their own. But they only have like 90 days, right? They understood it. It already they're going to put that gas station in there. It's going in there. They're not going to be able to stop it. They They've already

knew Mo's got a lot more money than them people up there. And there was only four that showed up at the meeting to complain about it. Oh, no. The last one there was there was it was stating room only. And they they've hired an attorney as well. That state they hired an attorney. Yeah. Yeah. All right. uh county attorney.

Yes, I mean there's a lot of things going on here in the next couple of months. U noticing or Tammy who spoke about the CASA event. Can't remember what date she said it was April 2nd maybe they're doing the pin wheels. So I'd encourage people to do that. I think that possibly that's during spring break for well but u so unfortunately I think I'll be gone through that but that is a good event um and I think it it definitely raises awareness of the abuse in our that happens in our county and and and everywhere else because I mean

it's it's it affects everybody and it could be rich people, poor people, whatever. There's abuse in in all families unfortunately and Julie sent me something earlier today. Moving on to the next topic. Um, our architect from um about the courthouse has sent us an email and um I mean I think we're going to have to take attention to this. Basically, it's talking about unfortunately while on site last week, there was some additional concern about the stability of levels of level four and five. And that's the Koopa and the the dome. And um basically it said um in addition to the structure beginning to fail, there has been a fair amount of damage to the existing members and we think that this portion may have to be removed and worked on offsite. This decision may fall to a contractor as a means and methods decision. We're thinking that might be the course of action. It'll be the safest. If there's a helicopter used to lift safely down the transport, that could also allow the bell to be removed at the same time.

Well, anyway, can you imagine? That's got to do it. That's a lot of stuff going on. I mean, I think you guys are going to have to make some major decisions. um look at the numbers and uh I mean that worries me because I mean courts going on you know weekly up upstairs and I don't want the roof to collapse in and or does it fall on the pizza parlor across the road? Yeah. Fall on somebody walking down the road or fall in on our judge and our baiffs and everyone else. So that just that's something we we got to act on and I'm ready. um

she's got an aggressive schedule that she's sent um to us. So, um I think she's wanting to have a a meeting with with the judge and I next week to kind of go over the scope of work now that they've done a full assess when you can get Judge Petri involved in. So, yeah, this is this is going to happen pretty quickly. It's really important and you know, I know we want to preserve the place. It's historical. I mean, I think they did a tasteful thing and we don't want to, we have to.

Right. Well, in Mercer County, they were able to while they did remove the structure, they saved a lot of the pieces of it to preserve that history. I don't know if that's something you might want to look into, but at some point, you're going to look at the cost basis, whether doing all this is going to the money that you spend versus starting all over again. It's too well known and documented to risk someone being injured. So, I just want to put you on notice. So, how soon can we expect it to be gone?

Her the whole schedule that I I worked out with her, the judge and I met with them and did a kickoff meeting was to get us um a number so that we can go to bond here closer to the, you know, the summer. Uh R.J. says it's going to take a couple months to work through the bonding process. So, you know, we've got several projects that we're pushing as hard and fast as we can to get the numbers. Um, she thinks that she will have uh us going to bid with on week nine, which is somewhere um around end of April if if everything goes right. And so, we've got to get something in the budget. Um I did some quick numbers, not to take over. that you finish.

I'm not. But go ahead and do yours before I want to I don't want you to do this before we move on to my um just for the EMS building based on R.J.'s assumptions. It's going to be a million dollar debt service on a $12 million EMS building. So, you know, as we talk about these projects, that's number one. Or is this number one? I think they're both equal. Um so, you know, pushing pushing for for answers on what what we're going to do here. Um, what was the numbers you had for this? I'm I'm look Hope told me a million dollars, but I don't see that now that I've seen her numbers. I I think it's going to be closer to two just based on

just just to clarify EMS building's prime primary. Yeah. Yeah, that's number one. But we could do this as well. Yeah. But the but the the build tower the safety is number one of the people in the building to me. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. That's why I'm like you know is the safety but they're both equal. They're both equal. Yeah. Um archer some numbers if if we were bond projects at 19,700 to get the course house in the Fred Kane the reading property you know the things you've talked about. Yeah, we're we're qu question. We've Why are we waiting on this? I on what on on getting this done?

Are we Are we waiting on bond to get it done? Cuz we got the cash on getting plans. It takes a long time. You're talking about the tower drawings plans. I mean, look, it just takes time to do these. We got Tate Hill. She's working. She was here last Thursday all day. Um they hope to have the plans to us by the end of April which is a fast really fast turnaround so that we can go to bid probably a month six weeks to get it out the bid get the bid back then you then you got your number you select the contractor we go to RJ how long and the same with I say a prayer every time I pass that

just take it down. All right, folks. Folks, two years ago in February, I'm the culprit who came to a court meeting and said, "Levelled and plum really bother me and we've got a problem up front." Two years ago in so two years and two months ago now with Magistrone's shared concern around this table that we are now in tornado time, we are now in high wind time. If we come out and there is one chunk that weighs 30 lbs that falls off of that thing in the next few months, few weeks, few days because of wind, we will do a declaration of an emergency and we won't have to go out to bids. And quite frankly, I do believe right now with what our counselor has just wr uh

read to us from an email, we have an emergency. I do too. I think it's an emergency. I mean, we could take it off now if you if you operate. I mean, that's that was kind of where I was trying to get to with my question was I understand there's a big whole process with this, but can we ask them can we have like a a quick simple solution to getting that thing off ASAP? Yes. Instead of waiting for this whole thing project much worse than we thought. I make a motion that we declare an emergency. It's already under an emergency. It's been declared already. Let's get it. Let's get it. What we've been trying to do is That's I heard bids. We don't need a bid in an emergency and and we should.

I mean, we need a plan, but I don't I don't want a package plan. I want like I want like that. Plan a I mean part a part one is get it off. Let's get it off ASAP. Yeah. If we can get that bail out and secure that be great. I think before they thought they could fix it like on there. Now this is like the newest or whatever. So this is new information that our counselor has just offered us morning. I know. And that's why I'm saying we have to accelerate. We've been saying for 2 years this thing is is is an emergency. Yes. People have said, "Oh, no. We can possibly fix." But it's Well, the this court knew we couldn't.

The structure structural engineer that came did not. He said, "Yes, it's in bad shape. Tell we want a refund." So, that's where we've been. Yeah. We've got to do it. Now, we have new information. I mean, we might even have to fence this off or whatever. like for the time. I mean just to be slightly liability. So what we need though agree with Tom we need them to come up with a emergency plan ASAP. How we we get that down immediately and secure the area so that way it's not we can we can put it back together over time. Correct. But the emergency part is getting it down. Correct. Yes. So correct. We just learned that again this morning. I know that we learned that, but we all knew that.

Yeah. And we got a ratchet strap holding stuff together up there. We knew there was a problem. Yeah. So, let's let's ask real quick come up with a plan ASAP to get this down and secured. Yes. And then we can work on the rest of it. Absolutely. Cuz a lawsuit's going to cost a lot more. Well, you ain't just kidding. The life of somebody. That's all that matters. We got to not risk anybody because wood does not give. It just cracks. I would rip it off tomorrow. I just want everybody to understand that we were going on Poges. I'm not blaming anybody. No, I know that. I just it was not given as that big of an emergency till just now. So, I just want to make sure.

Request a refund. I noticed the beams were wider last week when I was up there when she came. It they seemed a little bit wider. So, there clearly is missing. So, that's what they're seeing, too. actually just said something I think we should take note of. Should we rope it off? Uh, tape it off now. I mean, if it's that dire until you need a I guess you need some sort of idea on how big of an area you need, which is what that whole emergency portion should come around. But I mean I mean the worst thing in the world is you know you or Jamie having a wedding out there and then come down you know or you know

kids go down there like to Paula's point last year kids are out there out there on lunch all the time they've got chairs they've got there's events it's or they're at the memorial like at the memorial they're putting pin wheels out.

I appreciate what magistrate sleeper said in confirming what I'm saying. It should be right roped off immediately if if it were to fall toward the street. I've already calculated that it would be close to if not the buildings. Uh and certainly if it fell, the momentum would carry it right through the front door of of one of the buildings across the street. So I urgently think that we get the sheriff's office. Well, we need to talk to the city because they own the park that we'd be roping off. Good point. We own everything to the tree, I think. Well, then they would be as culpable as us the moment that they realized that we'd say that it ought to be roped off.

I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll get with Mark. We'll get some quotes on getting some temporary fencing and and start there and get it fenced off as soon as we can and call Earl and tell him not really urge. Yes. Okay. And then have this tape whatever give us a emergency plan on how we get this off. Yeah, we will. All right. Sorry to be the bad news. I'm trying to save save us, you know, from liability. Yes. You guys good idea. On another note, um Rich, our county architect or engineer engineer

surveyor, excuse me. He had done some um retracement on the property that we had purchased over there close to Domino's general and noticed a few overlaps where uh in the deed. So, I I've prepared two deeds u of which the joining property owners one has already signed it and I filed it yesterday and I should get the other one signed today. It just kind of clears it up because it was kind of wonky as you'd say. It wasn't just like a rectangle or whatever. It was came in a little bit like weird weird stuff, but we we fixed that. So, we'll have that soon. And um we've also been talking with um the a surveyor regarding a property that we own um out close to the bike trails. So bless you.

Bless you. So we've been dealing with that as well. I'm going to work with Steven Dexter. There's an issue that's arisen and um so hopefully we can clear that up as well. That's that's what's been going on.

All right. Thank you, dearly. Okay. So, some of the stuff I add on my list we've talked about. Um, we had a meeting last Thursday in Lexington with about the EMS design. Um, we're getting real close. I think what we've ended up is that we have revised a little bit of the the last iteration of the building layout. Um, so hopefully in the next couple weeks we'll get a new floor plan footprint to to consider. Um, so I don't know if Jason Jamie you or judge were there. I thought it was a good productive meeting with a lot of good input and I feel like I'm I'm anxious to see what they come back with. I think we're getting agree. I think we're getting closer personally.

Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was a great meeting. Think we was nice being able to be in there. Good ideas. Yeah.

Yeah. Good. Um, some good news is, um, I think around 2022, some of you that were on the court agreed to let us kind of restructure to do collection differently for occupational license and we are just under $40,000 of hitting a million dollars of bad debt that we have collected as a team. Thanks, Chris. Um, so hopefully you're going to hear the you will hear the bell ring when we hit a million dollars. Power may be down, but somewhere that bell is going to ring when we hit a million dollars. We're working real hard to try to try to get that done.

We need to get you a Sterling Sheriff's badge. The collection department is is hard at work tracking them down. So, um, so that's kind of fun. U, we have two RFPs out. These are just FYI. We are um rebidding out the health broker program with um Chair Morgan's time. We haven't done that since 2019, I think it is.

And also we're bidding out the preventative maintenance for HVAC on the courthouse. So those are two kind of long-term commitments that we're working on. The bike park is going as planned. Really exciting out there what's going on. The final thing is pickle ball. We had a a review yesterday. plans are at 90%. So, we're getting real close to going to bid. There's a couple things I think that that I need some guidance from the fiscal court on and and um looking at the numbers. Um

it's been a while since I've kind of rotated off going to those committee meetings, but at one point there was talk about weatherproof year round, then modified. Do we know any numbers on Well, the the estimate that Rob gave us was 1.7 million and that was with a concrete pad for just pickle ball courts.

All pickle ball courts. So, we sent that back and said, let's redo this and then we moved it to Millennium Park and uh let's go with asphalt. Um, we have kind of come up with a plan to bid out for nine courts with an additional three as an alternate at Millennium Park. So, the the first nine I think is in in phase one. Um, we had talked about covering three of those nine, lighting six of them. We can cover them all. We can not cover them. That's where I'm not sure what the right thing to do is. So, um I don't know what it's going to cost to cover them. We could do covering as an alternate. Um but the architect needs to know what we want the plans to reflect. It's to that point. you got my attention because that it's been a year or so since I've been to those committee meetings, but I can't imagine that the committee is considering asphalt courts because um that certainly was taboo when I played high school and college.

It's not your typical asphalt that on the road. This is sport sporting asphalt. It's a little different. Does it have a a different surface on the preferred pickle ball? That's generally what tennis and pickle ball courts are made of. It's just a It's a softer. Well, this guy I had never played on one. Yeah. Is it like chrome rubber? Yeah. Well, it's just it's just a softer spring. A little more springier than than your typical road asphalt. It's not like we're going to have Allen company coming out and pouring as

But I I just don't know. I think the I mean I just think we're going to have to keep some alternates in there because without the city's participation in there, we only have the city is participating so much we could go. Are they jointly funding this? So, the city from the conversations I've had with Earl and unfortunately um the our architects are not including you know me or magistrates in these conversations. Um cuz I didn't even know about the meeting till it was already happening. Um and thanks to Julie for at least having them send it to me, but it was too late. Um, the conversations I've had with Earl and that some of the pickle ball people have had with Earl is um that the city is interested in helping with the u covers and the lights and some of those aspects of it. So, they're not completely out of it.

Never heard that from Josh or Tommy. Yeah. If that's the case. So, that's why I think I think that's because Josh and Tommy don't make the actual decisions. their staff and so Earl would be the one that would bring that amount before the commission to based on the question I heard I think that that component needs to be an alternate if the city's paying for it then the alternate is in if the city's not paying for it then the alternate is out what's the alternate the roof roof and lights and the lights so you need the lights But

but we've also talked about um stubbing in the poles. Yeah. And then having those in phase two, which we're going to have to start talking about because this is kind of drawn out so long from where we were. Yeah. No, I'm good with it being Yeah, you should plan for the expansion of the lights and the and the roof in the phase one. But again, if the city's in, then great. Okay, they're in. and that's where the pickle ballers need to lobby the city. Jerry had a meeting with Earl the other day as well.

Um, and so, but he wasn't part of the meeting either. So, I kind of look at this the same thing with the skate park, which I've not updated on, but the skate park is, you know, we had a meeting about it the other day as well with the architect for it. And the the success of the skate park is going to be the fact that we have skateboarders that are giving input into the decisions because they'll be utilizing it and they're the subject matter experts. And so that's the same thing where with the picklers and the pickle ball people, you know, involving them helps greatly because they're the subject matter experts

that will help drive this whole thing. The the question comes down to like, okay, do we spend extra money on a phase 2 or do we do it as we're building it? Like that's kind of where we're at is is if we can add lights later, but at what cost? Would it have been cheaper just to include that? And Earl was the one that kind of brought this special covering up that you can get from one of our local distributors that actually will have like it's a it's a netting and then it also has lights built into the netting. Uh it's specifically for stuff like this. And so the idea is that we have nine quarts cover three. those lights and then on the other six courts you'll have these light poles that will um eliminate the rest of the courts.

That's that's the way it stands today. That's the plans on 90% 1.7 Well, I don't I don't know. I don't know what the swap out is going to be yet. I think that I think that that could be an altered based on the city's participation. I I've not heard a I mean nothing from the city that they interested in

that goes back to the the city and the county and the advisory board because that's kind of what we're we're gearing towards. I believe Earl's going to be submitting that uh that agreement here soon where the city and the county have this board again that we went away from that that's where the information is discussed and then brought out to us. Yeah. And I thought that was a very effective um mechanism that we had when we were doing the whole, you know, Millennium Park.

And that's that's that's why we're bringing it back because it was effective during Millennium Park. And so that's why we've kind of, you know, we we learned early on with a couple different things where, you know, the county is just assuming that since the city owns half of stuff, they're going to contribute. But there was that lack of communication. And so this board will solve all of that kind of like what we've done with other ones. So Julie, what what are we doing? Three and six. Three courts covered, six lit, or are we going to bid it out as all covered as an alternate? I I don't think nobody wants it all covered. Okay. So three covered, six lit. Three covered, which is exactly where we stand today. So there'll be no revisions to the plans.

Does that sound good to everybody? I mean, as far as I know, but again, it's it's, you know, we Okay. kind of where Yes. Okay. Thank you. I think we just need to build the D. Okay. Is that what you need? Y. Thank you. Okay. Anything else? No. Okay. Oh, I had one more thing.

Oh, sorry. Uh, at our last meeting, uh, you guys gave the approval to have an appraisal for a potential purchase of of a building. We're trying to get the appraisal back. U, the owner of the building gave me a number today. He doesn't have the appraisal back yet, and I don't know if I need to say it. I don't think I'm gonna say it on the record or anything like that, but I think that would be something that we would need to it'd be important to have on the agenda for the next meeting. Okay. Or go into executive session. Go into executive session, right? Agenda to go into exe executive. That's all.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh let's see here. Our finance officer and our treasurer is going to be attending KatO uh starting tomorrow through Friday. Uh so they'll go and be trained and come back with all kinds of good stuff. Uh Thursday is the job fair uh from 10 to 2 and that will be out at um showroom. Showroom. Thank you. Gotcha. Thank you. All right. I think everybody has received a budget committee that uh calendar went out for the budget committee. Okay. So, the first one coming up will be March 31st, which will be next Tuesday. Monday. Monday.

Monday. Monday. Tuesday. I thought it was Tuesday. Tuesday. Tuesday 31st.

Um, and then after that will be April the 7th. And all these are from 9 to 3. And then we'll have appropriations meeting on April the 14th following our fiscal court meeting that day. So, we will have lunch uh provided on that day. Um, we've talked about the literacy tree event in the past with the date has been set for April the 10th. That's on a Friday at 10:00 a.m. Uh, Casey has gone to pick up the seedlings this morning in Camelsville. Uh, bring back keep them alive until April the 10th and then we'll have a ceremony at Constitution Square uh at 10:00 a.m. to plant the yellow trees. And that's all part of the America's 250th uh events that are being planned. Courthouse will be closed a half a day on Good Friday, which is April the 3rd. We will close at noon. And then the next America's 250th meeting will be April the 14th. Uh that will be at the library at 2:00 p.m. Anybody that would like to go, um only if appropriations is finished. So I told Tony we might not be able to make it to that one because of the appropriations meetings but um and that is all that I have. So I will entertain a motion to adjurnn.

I make a motion. Measure boner. Is there a second? Second. Measure slicker. All those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Nay. Motion carries. We're thank you all. Could Could there be