Town Council - Regular Meeting

Welcome. Today is Thursday, August 7th, 2025. It is 6:00 p.m. I would like to call to order the town council meeting of Bowling Green, Virginia. Would everyone please stand for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. We will now take the roll call. Mr. Hagaman

here. Mr. Stor here. Vice Mayor Coyle here. Dr. Chenalt here. Mr. Webb here. Mr. Voit here. Miss Davis here. All council members are present. We have a quorum.

The next item um items one, two, and three are on the consent agenda. They are the meetings uh minutes for budget rate setting meeting for May 22nd, the meeting minutes for May 22nd, and the meeting minutes for June 5th. Do anyone do any of you want any of these pulled off to for discussion? At this time, could I please from council have a motion to accept the consent agenda? I make the motion to accept the consent agenda. I have a motion from Councilman Haggamman. Is there a second? Sure.

A second from Councilman Voit. Is there any discussion? All in favor, raise your right hand. Motion carries. Consent agenda's accepted. We will now move on to public comment.

Is that ready? Any of you wishing to speak, you have three come up. Please state your name and your address. You will have three minutes to speak. You will address me, the chairperson. Please know that our rules do not allow for us to answer you or talk back to you, but we are listening to what you have to say and we take notes and we have discussions about these things. So, at this time, I would like to open up public. Let me add one more thing. There are people who email me. If you email your mayor at the town of Bowling Green, you put in the memo spot public comment. Please include your name and your address. If you write something, remember I cannot read as fast as you would because you wrote it. But if you will write something brief as your mayor, I promise I will read every public comment that comes in to me through email. So at this time I will open public comment.

Welcome Miss Cra. Hi, Pat Crawford, 251 North Main Street. I think this is my second or third time of speaking. Um, I have a couple of comments. One, I'd respectfully ask that the minutes of the town council to be published the month after the town council meeting and if they would be published under the heading of minutes because otherwise I have to go to the agenda, print out the agenda packet or read the agenda packet. I'm I'm reading minutes from three months ago. That's one issue. The other um I'm sure that most of you are aware about the easement that property owners were asked to sign. This was done we got a letter in March of this year from March until July 5th or 8th. Nothing was done according to the property owners because we received nothing that said we're going to move forward. These are some questions we have. We had a roundt meeting. I requested it. I don't know if that did any good or not, but it happened. And we had a morning meeting and an evening meeting. We are still waiting for answers. You have property owners that you are asking to give the town of Bowling Green an easement property and we don't have answers to when it's going to start. What happens when the USDA grant expires? What are the consequences

if we or what are the recourses that the town of Bowling Green is going to do on the property owners if we don't sign? I and my husband uh have indicated that we we're in favor of we know that this probably needs to happen. However, answer the questions. Give us the information. I just don't know how you can blindly give us a piece of paper. The second letter that we got was a certified letter. The one with the deed was an open envelope that we got in the mail. I It wasn't even sealed and it's dated in 2023. Thank you for your time.

Thank you, Miss Craropper. Would anyone else like to come up at this time, please? Welcome. I'll get you next. Go ahead. Did I cut somebody? No, you're fine. Go ahead.

Sorry. Good evening, Mayor, Town Council, Amarie Giles, Robering Green Meadows. Uh, I'm going to read it right from here so that I don't have to try to remember anything. At the June town council meeting, something was mentioned about a house on Milford. My ears perked up. I was hoping that it was a house on the corner of Milford and Martin, but was instead a house that has been had a caving roof for nearly 20 years, but now something has to be done. I would love to see attention paid to other problems around town that affect all of us, not just a homeowner of a single home. I have been promised by the last three town managers that we would walk around town to see what problems exist. To date, that has not happened. Most of the time, there are trees and branches growing onto the sidewalk so that you have to bend over so you don't get hit in the face. You have to walk single file if you're walking with anybody. The sidewalks are littered with branches and limbs and often dog feces which makes it challenging to walk without twisting an ankle or stepping in something. Now back to the house on Milford and Martin. If you're on Martin and you want to turn onto Milford, you have to get out into traffic to see if anything is coming. And hopefully you're not running over anyone on the sidewalk. Same can be said for Oak Ridge and Virginia. You can't see what's coming because of the trees and branches. And I've been told that the town can't do anything about at all about it. Another problem. I don't have my water bill. I've never had to chase down a bill before. I've always gotten my bill the month before it was due. Not lately. It can come at any time.

And if you knew me, you would know that's more than a problem. More of a problem than you think. I stay on top of my bills. I look for them every day in the mailbox. It's not there. One last thing worth mentioning. It has been discussed many times that the public doesn't show up for meetings. No matter what time you schedule them, town council feels that people just don't care. Or could it be that maybe we feel like we're not being heard? I'm curious about one thing. I would love a show of hands. How many of you go to count county supervisors meetings? Same thing.

Same thing. Again, we we're not allowed to respond. I know you're not you're I'm I haven't stopped talking. Go for it. Same thing. So, people don't show up. It's not just town people. It's all of us. And we do need to show up more often. But if you don't feel like you're heard, I feel like I'm paying taxes for nothing. That's exactly how I feel. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Miss Giles. You're welcome. Next person, please. Good evening.

Welcome.

I'm Evette Harvey. I live 16044 Harrison Way. I have come here plenty of times in the past in reference to the water bill. It's ridiculous. I moved here in 2021. 60% my bill has went up within almost four years. That's ridiculous for a single person. And on top of it, my bill has been fluctuating up. I travel a lot. I don't use a lot of water. I called the water company the the water. They they told me they was going to look into it. That was in April. I called again when I got the next bill cuz it went up again. Nothing happened. I called this last time when I got this bill because my head was about to explode how much it was. They said they're gonna look into it, but we don't get notices or anything because we live outside of the town of Bowling Green and that's not fair. It's very disrespectful. We don't get anything saying that the bill is going up. Only reason why I knew the bill went up because I saw a question on a newsletter that said, "How come the bill increased?" That's not right. We're paying double the amount of money. We pay double the amount, 50% more than what people in town pay. And we're not treated equally. And something needs to be done. We don't even get a grace period. We could at least get a grace period for 10 days or something or 5 days, but you want to charge us. We can't even use a check to pay online because they charge that, too. It's it's something got to be done. Yes, ma'am.

Thank you, Miss Hari. Would anyone else like to come speak? Miss Canon.

Yes, ma'am.

Good evening, council. Bonnie Canon, South Main Street. I appreciate the opportunity to stand here tonight before you and I have a few comments for you. I was here at the May meeting. I was not here at the June meeting and you had a hearing I think about all the rate increases that the council had proposed for citizens. And if I'm not mistaken, I think there were 20 to 30 people here. I think this room was full if I'm not mistaken. From my point of view, all those people spoke the same language as I did. Why are you doing all this increasing? Why? And that's my question. Why? I can understand if you increased a couple things, but you increased everything and or added two other items and or we haven't even got to tax bill of which the county has raised assessment on which the tax bills will be based on. And I've already figured mine my tax bill is going up almost $300 for the town. You could have left it at the equalize rate which was what 6.8 am I right mayor? 6.5 that was equalization rate. You could have left it at equalized rate. You didn't have to raise the taxes too in addition to everything on the table. You could have been a you could have thought about the residents, the senior retired people like myself and my husband. There's a lot of us in town. People live on a fixed income. This is a small town. This town is not like your other big towns that you have a lot of residents. you got a lot of income coming in. It's different. We're the small town atmosphere, the historic town of Bowling

Green, and I would like to see it stay like that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, one more addition. Yes, ma'am. I would like to see if y'all would consider think of it reconsidering some of these things that you have done to raise on uh residents. And I could give you a better suggestion since you've already done it and I don't understand how you I'm like this lady. I don't understand how you do your water bills. I don't understand your software. I would like to see a whiteboard up there explaining it all to me at a meeting. How how you come up with the uh things that you come up with. So my beneficial suggestion is give all the residents a rebate across the board rebate. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Miss Canon. Would anyone else like to speak at this time? Hearing none, I will now close public comment.

At this time, I'm going to move on to member comments. Mr. Haggamman, do you have something to say? No, ma'am. Mr. Stor, no. Thank you. Mr. Chenalt, no. Vice Mayor Coyle. Um, I believe we should have a discussion in reference to your position on planning commission expiring July. It was mid year.

So I I think something down the road if we want to just think about it and have a discussion on whether uh appointing reappointing the end of the year, January, however it needs to be done. So, just so it's in the hooper there of what we need to do. Thank you, Mr. Web. Uh, nothing at this time,

Mr. Roy. Couple quick things. Um, okay. Um, first off, uh, Port Royal Festival on 4th of July. Went to that. That was pretty fun. I was not able to find you there, Bonnie. I don't know if I just missed you or not, but it was a good event. So, if you're involved, good job. Um, let's see. I have been asked a couple times in the last couple days about the fall clean sweep. I wasn't able to get a minute with the town manager yet tonight to even ask about that, but I'll get an answer on that soon, I would think. Um, roll into the planning commission report. Um, the planning commission didn't meet last month either. If I rewind back to the um June meeting, I'll just say that uh we did refer over from council here the discussion on food trucks. We just had the little opener. We haven't really dove into that yet. That'll be upcoming. And that's all I've got for today. Thanks. Thank you, Miss Davis.

I don't have anything.

Thank you. Um the only thing I have going through my council packet um items one, two, and three, the meeting minutes. I would like to commend Mr. Jeffrey Smith for the wonderful job he did writing up the minutes. They were very thorough. They were very well executed and I want to thank you for that publicly. Okay. Next thing we will move on to our staff reports. Item number four, wastewater treatment facility sludge management and the overview. At this time, um, I will turn this to the town manager and let you turn it over to whom you need to.

All right. Uh, thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, Mr. Smith, if you can have the AECOM presentation, um, pulled up. Um, as by the way of intro, uh, we've discussed, uh, the status of our wastewater treatment plant, also known as our waste wastewater treatment facility. Uh, particularly as it relates to the drying beds. Um, over the last several years, there have been some attempts to improve um, the drying beds. Uh we know that the majority of our drying beds, in fact, all of them have um not been performing at the level that we have hoped. Um based on subject matter experts, um they basically indicated that all five of our drying beds have failed. Um I think council had approved prior to my arrival. Um initial uh rehab of those um beds based on previous operators. Um our current operator has taken a look at our SL sledge um drying beds and came with some recommendations I think back in June. Um we have been working with a group called Moonshot Missions through our work with the state um which has been free of charge to the town. I' I'd like to to to clarify that um they have been taking a look um at various options for our wastewater treatment facility and particularly as it relates to our drying beds and dewatering of the sludge at uh at our plant. Um so with that uh AECOM the group who has been uh doing the majority of that work along with our contractors um in building environmental services uh have spent um several months probably six to eight months uh working on uh per uh for a grant submitt to the state to help us with uh the potential solutions uh for uh the wastewater treatment plant facility um which we have uh submitted a grant on behalf of the town um for that fix. So, they are here today to present um their findings as it relates to that work um the several months worth of work. And just for um the public's awareness, this is about $140,000 worth of engineering work that was freed to the town uh based on

uh work of staff uh myself as well as public work staff that have been working with them diligently over the last eight months. So, Ian, with that, I'll hand it over.

All right. Good evening, everyone. Uh my name is Ian Camper. I'm an engineer with AECOM. Um we're based out of Ron Oak, Virginia. I'm joined by my colleague Tim Kent. He was uh the primary author of the report for this. Um so we'd like to discuss our findings and recommendations that we developed looking at the flood management system at the treatment plant. Next slide. Um for those not a um familiar with the plant uh the treatment plant has multiple stages and it's currently um managed by Embodden Environmental Services. They're the contract operators running that plant. Um the flow comes in uh and it's screened through primary treatment. That's where the core solids are removed. Um and then it goes through successive stages starting with secondary or biological treatment. This is really where the sledge is generated. So we're growing a large quantity of bacteria to treat the water. That bacteria is removed through settling and filtering and that settled material is what becomes sludge and is what we have to manage and get out of the plant. Next slide. So the treatment plant was designed with a rated capacity of about 250,000 gallons or 0.25 million gallons per day uh with a peak of about 75. The plant's currently operating well below that. um which is good from a capacity standpoint. Um but one thing we learned when we got started with this project um is that there are new um permit limits that are going to become effective beginning in 2028. Um so in addition to the current issue with the drying beds, what do the impacts those new permit limits have on the treatment process performance and the expected solid generation from that? Um the primary constituent of concern is ammonia. That's the one that will be enacted at

the end of 2028. Um so there will be a new permit limit there and that's the one that really impacts the treatment process performance. Next slide. Need for the project as India mentioned know the the ineffectiveness of the drying beds is the primary concern right they're not draining. Sometimes the sledge sits there for months at a time doesn't dewater um and it becomes a nuisance. Um we believe that the primary causes is one the incorrect media being used in the drying beds just doesn't allow water to settle through. It just clumps um becomes plugged and then the under drains underneath the media bed are clogged and and broken and damaged. Um and as a result instead of hauling away dried solids, right, you're you're hauling away liquid sludge. Um, and based on uh the records, that's to the tune of about $340,000 over the past year.

Is that a higher amount to have it disposed of when it's wet than when it's dry? Correct. Okay. Thank you.

Yeah. Um, so to improve this, there are a couple couple options. one, right? We can we can repair the existing drying beds and maintain the status quo or we can look at a new mechanicalbased um dewatering system. Um and that was the focus of this project with the goal of creating this this report that can support the application for funding from the state for the improvements. Looking at the the current operations, the plant is actually doing really well. Um particularly we see a remarkable improvement in performance once inboden got involved. Um and the key metric there is the reduction in what's called the mix liquor suspended solids. That's the biomass concentration in in the system that has dropped considerably. Um and there have been other performance improvements as a result. Metal settling um less solids carry out into the F1. Sledge production is averaging about 4,700 gallons per day. And we'll keep that kind of as a metric as we look at the the system in the future. One item we did could go back. Yeah, sorry. One one deficiency we did note is in the digtor volume. So the sludge goes to the digtor, it's airrated and stabilized before it's dewatered and and sent away. That digtor volume um is about half of what the regulations require um for the state. So that is one deficiency we noted and that would hopefully be um addressed in this project. So when we look at sizing the system uh we're looking at not how it's operating currently but at design conditions right we don't want to put in undersized equipment. We want it to match the rate of flow of the plant. U the biological process is very sensitive to temperature. So both winter and summer conditions affect biomass growth. So we

get different sledge generation volumes. Um so with that these are kind of the design metrics that we came up with design criteria. Um but if on the bottom left table there you can see under scenarios A and B our sludge generation at design conditions with these new permit limits is expected to double even triple to what you're currently producing. Um so that's obviously going to have a a tremendous impact on how much sledge you have to to get rid of. Next slide. Uh so looking at alternatives. Um first we want to take a look, you know, does is it even feasible to to repair the drying beds? Um we know that they're not functioning now. Um so it would require replacement of the media, fixing the under drains, but then we also looked at, you know, are they appropriately sized for what they need to do? Um looking at the regulations, the existing drying beds are about half the size um of what the regulations require at our design conditions. Um they also have, you know, less uh dewatering capability than a mechanical system. So we're going to generate a more wet sludge and essentially the wetter the sludge, the more water you're hauling, the higher your hauling cost. So we want to get as much water out as possible to reduce our operating cost. And drying beds are also just labor intensive. um compared to mechanical system. So we looked at three different options for mechanical dewatering equipment. A belt filter press which is essentially you know a series of belts. You add the sludge they squeeze under high pressure and remove the water from the from the solids. The rotary fan press operates in a similar condition but instead of a belt they use a series of pressure plates to squeeze the solids and then a centrifuge spins at high speeds essentially whipping the water out and and resulting in a dry product.

So when we look at these u from both a financial and kind of a non non-financial non-monetary considerations um the belt filter press um comes out ahead. It's the lowest uh in terms of uh net present value cost. We looked at a 20-year life cycle for the equipment. So taking account the initial cost is that is that the life um expectancy of this 20 years? Yeah. 20 to 25 years is a pretty typical um design life for this type of mechanical equipment. Okay. Thank you.

Yeah. Um but so you're looking at initial capital cost and expected operating cost from power manh hours um chemical usage all of those. the belt filter press came out financially the best alternative. When we look at the non-monetary considerations, there's a lot of things that kind of um go into that. And the belt filter presses are great for large facilities um because they can handle a lot of sludge, not the best suited for small facilities like Bowling Green. They can there are small frame sizes. Um but there are other technologies like the rotary fan press was really developed for small facilities, but there's some also downsides. The rotary fan press produces a wetter sludge compared to a belt filter press. And then we look at the the centrifuge. Um the main disadvantage of that system is just it's operationally very complex, very high maintenance requirements, maintenance cost. And then when we talked with Emboten, we wanted to get their feedback because they're ultimately going to be the ones operating this system, right? Um, and based on their experience at operating similar facilities around the state, um, they have a lot more preference for the belt filter press. Um, for a couple of reasons. One, it's less sensitive to any changes in polymer that needs to be added to help dewater the sledge. Um, and it's also less sensitive if this the solids characteristics change um because of a process upset. you get someone discharging something to the sewer they shouldn't have and it changes the characteristics of the solids. Um the belt filter press can handle that change a little bit better than the other technologies.

Does it it handles the um like the fog the a lot of fog fog is a detriment to a lot of technology um and that really has to be handled upstream in the system um either through the pre-treatment system before it gets to the sludge. Correct.

Okay. Thank you. Now, the belt press can, you know, because and the grease and oils, right, they're eventually going to emulsify in sludge um potentially depending on the physical characteristics of the plant. But if that becomes a problem, belt press can handle that a little bit better than some of the other technologies. Um and the also the impact we or feedback we had from InBoden is that the belt presses are a lot easier for operators to learn. So you're getting potentially new staff and other people coming in. It's a simpler, easier, easily more easily visualized technology compared to the other ones. It's not like a black box that sledge goes in, you get cake out. It's a little more operator intuitive.

The maintenance cost on it, is it substantially less for the um belt filter press and you know like replacement parts or that sort of thing? Yeah, the the main maintenance items are going to be, you know, bearings of motors and shafts and then the belt in CA that'll be the biggest cost that the belt gets damaged, replacement of the belt, but the belts themselves usually last a pretty good while. It's just if they get misaligned and somehow catch the edge of the frame, they could tear. Um, but compared to the other ones, they're a lot a lot more mechanically simple.

Okay, thank you. Yeah. So, for all these reasons, the belt press is really what we recommend for this facility. And next slide. In terms of where we could put this, we looked at a couple options. Um, one option is simply put it underneath the existing canopy you have out there for the drying beds. But there's a lot of downsides for that. One thing we want to weather protected, more weather protected environment for the equipment to protect against freezing. Um, and to modify that existing structure to enclose it would be um, challenging, I guess you could say. Um, so we felt a better option would just be to provide a a new rightsiz building to house the equipment. Um, and with that you would need the the supporting infrastructure, power to it, um, water to clean the belts. Um, how do you handle the process drainage, get it back into the system, and any site improvements. And all these are considered in the the cost that we developed.

That's option two. That's option two. Thank you.

Uh one concern that was brought up during the course of the project is, you know, are we keeping growth of a town in mind as we look at these options. Now we look at, you know, population data. It's been pretty stagnant over the years. Um but we do want to make sure we are forward thinking. Um and with some potential development coming into the town, we want to make sure that the equipment is right sized to accommodate that. Um the equipment that we're particular equipment we're looking at as our basis of design um is a by a manufacturer called Alpha Labau and working with their engineers um to try to feel get a feel for what's the range flow range that they can accommodate and how does that translate into uh current design and future design conditions. So the the range they gave us, you know, has a range about 15 to 30 gallons per minute. And that corresponds at the low end to about 4,500 gallons per day of sludge. That matches pretty much what you're generating right now. Um, and then at the high end, uh, about 9,000 gallons per day of liquid sludge. And when we look at our design capacity at, you know, the rate the plant's rated capacity at the 0.25 25 MGD with the new permit limits. That gets us about 4,900 gallons per day is where we're projecting the solid generation would be. So we have about almost half of that capacity available for future growth down the road. So you know that the equipment may age itself out before it actually needs to be expanded type thing. So we we feel we have a good um equipment size to cover the full range from current operation all the way out to the future. um some kind of non-engineering impacts that we looked at. Uh one, you know, what are the environmental impacts for this project? Um there are a few water bodies kind of surrounding uh the

treatment plant property, but we don't anticipate that these would be impacted during construction, you know, with proper erosion sediment control measures installed um to handle that. Um, we do recommend that, you know, as part of this project and working with the state that the the town apply for a categor categorical exclusion because we're um essentially updating the existing treatment plant on an already developed site. So there's there is no need to do a phase one phase 2 environmental impact assessment.

So that basically it puts us under like a grandfather clause. Uh it essentially means that the um your the the proposed project is essentially not going to have any environmental impacts because it's already on a it's already been previously developed site, right? So there's no need to go through the effort and expense of doing the environmental impact assessments for a project that's not going to have those impacts. So the state state allows that through an exclusion. Okay. the stream embed in the pond is that that's the um bio retention pond. No, that's I think that's just a near my offsite property.

Okay, thank you. It's just in the vicinity. So, just no runoff concerns is always an issue.

Um from a stain sustainability um viewpoint, we see some benefits of this project. Um from a sustainability perspective, one compared to how much truck volume is needed right now to haul off liquid sludge. That's going to decrease tremendously with the dewatering equipment. We're removing all that water. Um so there's going to be a decrease in the amount of trucking, right? So a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions and and energy associated with that. Uh there's going to be um essentially no impact for land usage. We're going to use the existing property. We don't need to acquire any additional property for this project. It'll be done right there on the site. Um there are potentials for some water savings. Um the the project does not include so the the plant had space for some non-putable water pumps. Essentially use the treated water for any needs that water needs on the plant you know wash down equipment usage that you don't have to use drinking water. U that equipment has since been removed. Yeah. Essentially um that equipment has essentially been removed. Um you can continue to still use uh portable water um for this new mechan uh dewatering system but there is opportunity um to consider maybe using reuse water then impacts to the community. That's always a concern particularly as we're looking at you know solids handling facilities. There's always a concern about you know what what sort of odors are we going to deal with? That odors are always a big thing at wastewater facilities. It's not the best smelling place, but we see these the the potential for increase in odors from what's already kind of the baseline condition at the plant to be minimal. Um, if anything, it may even improve. Um, especially if we're putting all the equipment in a enclosed building essentially. So, we don't really see increase in odors being a problem. Um

there may be um obviously there may be some impacts during construction with construction traffic coming in and out of the facility. Uh and then once the the solids are dewatered and hauled off to landfill there'll be occasional truck traffic for that but it would be sub substantially less than current operation hauling the liquid sledge. So, looking at um expected cost and schedule for the project, uh from a construction standpoint, we're looking a little shy of $2 million for this project. And then when we add in all the non- construction costs, the engineering administration costs, um legal, all that brings it up to about $2.7 million. And that's the amount that has been submitted um with the the funding application. Uh from a project standpoint, uh schedule standpoint, uh the funding was applied for at the end of July. So that's going through now. Um that application approval process. Um while that's ongoing, that there's nothing stopping the town from soliciting professional services for design. Go ahead and get the design started. Um we anticipate the design will take about nine months um to to design the system. a couple months for um sol soliciting bids and award and then about a nine month construction period and that pulls us up to about mid uh 2027 at that end of construction. Um so that's essentially two years from now. So what does the town do in the interim? Do you continue to pay $340,000 a year to haul liquid sludge or are there other options? So, we did evaluate two options kind of as interim measures until construction can be done. Um, one is, you know, just rent a belt filter press. There are vendors out there that um provide that services. Um, there's a

onetime fee of about $25,000 to get the equipment to the site. And then there's monthly costs. So, when we look at an annual operating budget, that's about $25,000 um compared to 24 or 340 that you're spending now. um we would have to provide dumpsters and the connections to support the the equipment. Um the other option that we looked at is a much simpler solution um using dewatering box boxes and these operate essentially in the same manner as the drying bed just in a more compact more efficient foot uh standpoint. And it's a much more cost-effective solution. um a onetime expense of about $1,600 to get the box to the site. And then there's a monthly, you know, rental cost. Um plus and these this operating cost includes the rental company hauling the box off and disposing of the sludge and bringing it back. Um and that's about $80,000. So,

the taking it off site, does the dewatering box um dry it out as efficiently as the belt filter press? It would not. Then, so the costs for hauling it off are going to be more because there's going to be more sludge. What you're talking Yes. But that's that's factored into our expected operating cost. Thank you. Yeah. Um, and then just like the belt press, there are going to be some temporary measures to get everything hooked up. Um, so with that was less open up for any questions. Are there questions from council? Mr. Boy.

Okay. uh bouncing right off what you were just talking with the the rental stuff and giving being able to give the annual operating cost there uh versus our 340 we're spending for hauling right now. What should we be spending right now? You have any estimate like on on like how bad they are with all the extra water? Like what should it really look like? And I we don't have a ACOM doesn't have what the hauling cost would be for what the the drying beds if the drying beds were operational right and functioning. How much were you paying at that point compared to the the the rental cost? The only measure we have is the last year where you're hauling essentially liquid sludge.

Okay. Um, well, I'd be I'd be interested in in that because like, you know, we're 340 is obviously, you know, far too much. So, there's something wrong. We all know there's something wrong, but I kind of would like to know what optimum based off how they are right now because that would help, you know, when I'm trying to, you know, digest this cost and explain these costs like, hey, you like if we're if we're paying double what we should be because they're not operating efficiently, then you mean that already tells me that, you know, we should be saving 175 versus, you know, what we're 95. But, um, you know, that would be a way to do that. But yeah, that said, uh how did how did you um get to uh the numbers on here for these annual operating costs?

So for the belt press that includes um expected power usage, right? Um there are various motors, electric motors, they're going to take power. Um there's chemical usage for polymer to add to help thicken and dewater the sludge that's included in there. And then I believe Tim, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it also includes the estimated um sled or the dewatered sledge hauling cost, right? The disposal cost of the sledge itself. Okay. Now, do you have like a volume amount of what that is supposed to be? Uh we do. It's it's not in the presentation, but it it is in our report.

Okay. like, yeah, I don't expect you to have like the the tier rates at every facility around here, but you know, if I knew the volume, I guess I could figure out that math later. Yeah. And I I'll add that the hauling cost, right, it's going to be dependent on where you're hauling it to, how far the tipping fee is at the facility. So, it, you know, what should you be paying? It's that's kind of a hard question to answer.

Certainly fair. Um, that one covers that. Um, you know, I'll I'll make a little bit of a note. This is the most uh what's the word? Um, comprehensive, you know, discussion we've ever had on this. This is well written. I definitely appreciate that. We've kind of ballparked it before in in years prior. Um, unfortunately, this has definitely been inflated since, you know, the times before. You know, three is I I think it's almost doubled since the the ballparks we were given two years ago, I think it was, right? Um, but this is a I need it way to go. I want to make sure I got my other things. Got that. Oh yeah, quick one. Uh with the option two with placing it. Um and maybe this is more a TM or or Sean question. Um that Oh, you don't have it up anymore. Um on the map for option two. by not putting it where the current drying beds are. Um I believe and and correct me where I'm wrong on this. Uh I I think that they were they used to use that spot on the map a little bit for is that we had dumpsters there or something. Um obviously if you put this on here it it seemed to be a good spot, but I was trying to remember what was happening in that spot before. Yeah, when I was out there, there was some signs of and it may be where the dumpsters are being placed when you take the sludge out of the the drying bed to load it into the dumpster would be I think that's where and you can kind of see where the ground's been kind of tore up.

Okay.

Um, looking at the site, that was really um the best location for it. Um, mainly because of topography, the site does slope as you move kind of north on the page there. it goes down quite a bit of hill. Um, and that that was the best option there. Now, there are a few abandoned buildings from the old treatment plant still on the site. Um, that could come down to make room um for this facility or others. Um, but that's also with added cost and being given their age. I know disturbing those old facilities may open up a can of worms that the town may not want to consider. um what kind of um usage can we purpose the very large dry and bait area for after this?

So what we envision it would be a great place essentially once the sludge is dewatered it can be stored under there until that way you're not and if if you need to go several weeks um before hauling it um you can it's nice sheltered place. Sure. Sure. That's that makes perfect sense. And that could be put right on the existing media. There's no need to dig all that out. Okay. Good. Good. Um I I have another point thing to get back to later, but it's not so much a question, so I'll stop.

I do. Is there um any type of regulations or compliances that we have to adhere to being close to the Marasic Creek for the um Chesapeake Bay watershed? Uh yeah. And that's that's what's reflected in the new limits that are be um effective in 2028. Um essentially the ammonia limit would be a new limit because of um changes into the the overall Chesapeake Bay TMDL strategy. Very good. Thank you. Are there any Miss Adams Jacobs?

Thank you, Madam Mayor. I just wanted to follow up quickly on a point council member White made. um we can work within Bowden to bring back some historical data as accurate as we can bring it. But also just want to point out um particularly if we're looking at this apples to apples um as he mentioned as it related to the performance of the plant um when Bowden took over um last year there was a significant amount of hauling that had to take place just to get the plant operationally where it should be. So there are going to be some one-off inflated numbers as it relates um to this year at the beginning of that that fiscal year to get that caught up. Also um a caveat to that when uh we were looking at some of this historical data and how it should operate uh back when we had um um a sludge agreement or a bioolids hauling hauling agreement um there were times that that was going to the county's facility as well as King George all of which were closer um based on some changes over the last year and a half uh maybe even two um our sludges being hauled off to different facilities um as far as handover um and in some cases particularly maybe um Hopewell in some instances as well. So that also um is some increase as it relates to the costs as we we we compare these. So it's not necessarily apples to apples.

There any other questions from council? Go ahead, Mr. Sto. So the the application funding was submitted in July, correct? To who and what's the match and how much do you think we So I believe there was a 25% match on this one. Um, so we would know hopefully within the next three or four months if we were if we were selected. Mr. Webb, bureau resident engineer, do you have any questions? Okay, Miss Davis, Dr. Schnel, Vice Mayor Coyle, Mr. Hagaman, Mr. Campber, thank you so much for speaking with us.

Thank you everyone. Did you have another for us? Not for him. Okay. Okay. The next item on the agenda is the hydrogeeological source evaluation report and water quality update from Stantech.

Welcome. Anything you want to say first? Uh uh this is Brian Mountoy from Stan. He's going to give us an update and I'll I'll pass it over to him. Mr. Bryant Maloy.

Thanks. Um so I'm here to give it's been a little while since I've been here. I wanted to give a little recap of where we are. Um work that's been done to date on water quality and water quantity um concerns in the town. um some recent testing we did on uh towns well four um and next steps. Next slide please. Uh I just said all that. So next slide. Um so just a reminder going way back here. Um Santech was brought on several years ago now to evaluate increasing the withdrawal limits in the town's groundwater withdrawal permit to accommodate potential growth. um you're previously pretty close to maxed out um and unable to accommodate new connections. So um that application was submitted in 2024 um and issued towards the end of 2024 with a permit limit of about 90 million gallons per year. Um so that's an increase over your last permits. I think it was like 65 million gallons per year or a million gallons per year if I recall correctly. So it gives you a little more room there. Um alongside that there were numerous special conditions which DEQ issued. Um you know those are items that are above and beyond the typical compliance requirements for groundwater withdrawal permits that are put in place for a variety of reasons whether it's you know existing facilities not meeting current regulations um you know increased uh withdrawal limits. uh it it's not uncommon, but it does put you know extra requirements on the town um to comply with over the next permit term. Um so to highlight some of those um this slide here summarizes that. First of all, we do want to note that there were initially there were very tight deadlines associated with complying with these items. Um before we applied for the permits, it was made known to us that they were expected to be done before permit was issued. Um we

did get those pushed back to 5 years after the permit was issued. So we're looking at 2029 for the ultimate compliance date for these items. Um one of them being the abandonment of town well number one um and well number four. Those are items related to their construction. They were not constructed properly at the time um and they're required to be abandoned. Well, number five, its pump has to be raised. That's related to it's being set below the top of the aquifer from which it's pulling water, which is not allowed by regulations. So, it has to be raised up to a higher elevation. Um, a geohysical log completed um near that well uh to verify, you know, which aquifer it's constructed in, make sure there's not any issues with its construction. Um and same thing for well 1a. It needs a pump rays and geohysical log to help DEEQ, you know, understand where that well is constructed, you know, geologically speaking. So obviously the abandonments require replacements for you to keep the same capacity for your water system. The pump raises also pose a significant challenge. um by raising the elevation of that pump um sort of seen in that schematic diagram on the right, there's less room for the water level to decline in the well at those pumps, which means essentially raising the pump reduces the effective capacity of those wells. Um so all across the boards, there's new wells that will be required to maintain the town's current capacity and ability to support, you know, current and and future connections. Um so separate issue um but related also to source water. Uh the town has detected elevated gross alpha radioactivity uh in all of its wells at this point. Well 5, four and 1a have had detections above the EPA's maximum contaminant level. Um

so you know over the past couple of years been working with town and VDH on path forward here. Back in mid 2024, uh we proposed an action plan to the department of health detailing how the town intends to address this which was approved by VDH and they subsequently issued a formal corrective action plan in September of last year which we'll go to on the next slide here some of the requirements of that. But essentially what that does is it lays out a timeline and an expected steps that VDH anticipates to happen um you know to keep the town in compliance um you know with their uh consent order. Uh in summer 2024, there was an application the town submitted for the planning and design fund grant program. And that's a program administered by Virginia Department of Health to handle some preliminary engineering type services. Um and I'll get to what we uh use that for in the next slide here for some testing of existing well number four. Uh in March 2025, BDH issued a revised corrective action plan. We negotiated with them a little bit on the deadlines that they had proposed in their previous corrective action plan which were very aggressive. They would be difficult to meet with all of the engineering construction work that would be required. So we did successfully get those pushed back. So there's some inter interim compliance dates which we'll get into in the next slides but you in the end they align with the DEQ permit. So 2029 is sort of your your cut off for needing to have all of this in place in order to maintain your current well capacity.

I have a question. Sure. Um we're looking at getting the new wells. Do we have to take care of the gross alpha before we get the new well? Because I mean the new well could also have the gross alpha. Yeah.

So very good question. Um, and I'll get into a little more detail on the next slide here. But essentially, you will want to have the new wells in place before you finalize a plan to deal with the gross alalfa because for that very reason, we don't know what the water quality is exactly of the new wells until they're in the ground. So, there's some preliminary work that be done in the meantime to help get you closer. Um, but uh, but yes, we do think that the wells need to be in the ground first. So if we get a new well and it has gross alpha in it, they will let us put it online as long as we are actively pursuing a corrective action for the gross alpha. Yes. Thank you.

Sure.

Um and also uh spring 2025 um in May town submitted an application to this drinking water state revolving fund which is another program administered by the Virginia Department of Health. It's a combined state funds and federal funds um program to help with drinking water compliance issues. And that was for, you know, we did some very preliminary um work to come up with cost estimates for that, trying to be conservative um and we requested $8.3 million um to deal with the treatment and the new wells that would be required um between now and 2029 for that work. So that was submitted in May. Uh VDH intends to issue offer letters um in October um for those funds. So we're hopeful, keeping our fingers crossed on that, but we won't hear anything until October. Um oh, one more item on Sorry. Um and then finally, uh in July of this year, the town submitted a letter to the Department of Health requesting consideration of funds that were allocated um under House Bill 1600. Uh that is a bill that specifically identifies the town of Bowling Green as a priority recipient of a bucket of money of $25 million that was in addition to the state drinking water um revolving fund program. So this year is a little bit different. There's an VDH has an extra $25 million available to spread around, you know, as as they see fit, but it does require priority consideration of the town of Bowling Green. Um so so that's good. Again, another item that we're very hopeful for. Um, something of note here is that the House Bill 1600 funds do require a a talent match of I believe 20% on that 25%, excuse me. Um, but there is good

news there that the VDH determined that if a town were to be awarded SRF funds in addition to the House Bill 1600 funds, the DWSRF funds could be used towards that 25% match. So, you know, we'll have to see how it comes out, but there's some some hope there that there'll be less required um on the town's behalf to come up with. Now, get next slide. Um, so this might be a little bit small to see, but I I pulled out the five uh items that are in the corrective action plan from BDH just to show what the town is committed to. Um, item number one there um is really just it's ongoing town providing updates on the status of um compliance issues and public notices. Item number two is collection of additional samples um which are are being collected. I presented some of that in the previous slide. Um quarterly samples for gross alpha and then some also some additional sampling which I'll get into next um to help figure out what exactly is the source of this gross alpha that's being seen in the wells. So that's being done. Item number three town will hire a professional engineer to develop a preliminary engineering report to evaluate treatment technologies. Um you know Stantech was procured so that is um also underway. this uh testing that I'm going to talk about next um is sort of the initial step to that peer. We've not really got underway on the preliminary engineering itself, but that's information that was required to, you know, help us move in that direction. So, that part is underway. Item number four is obtaining a construction permit for the required construction. That's still a couple years down the road. And then finally, as I mentioned before, by the end of 2029, this all needs to be in construction. um or sorry uh construction needs to be complete and in service meeting your gross alpha MCL's.

Next slide. Okay, so that's the background everything that's happened. This is a little more current now. Um the $45,000 which was awarded through the planning and design fund program was used for a packer test on well number four. Um packer testing is you know a schematic on the right here shows essentially what what was done um in town well number four. Um so as as you recall well number four ultimately will be required to be replaced um due to its construction. The current plan is to do that on the same well lots. Four in particular has four different screen sections which are separated by blank pieces of pipe. So the screens are where the well pulls water from the aquifer that's sitting alongside it. So by isolating those screens you can instead of collecting one bulk sample of all the water that comes out of your well you can see what is the water quality from you know this zone from 350 to 360 ft what's the water quality from this zone which is you know 300 to 310 ft um those are not precise numbers I don't remember the strain intervals offhand but that's the concept

so when you're where you're you're doing that you can somewhat isolate from which level of of soil oil that the gross alpha is being emitted from. Exactly. So it's it's sampling discrete intervals at different depths as you go down.

So we were able to collect three different um samples at three different depths with the goal of seeing is there higher gross alpha at one depth versus another. Um you know there's some hypotheses that maybe it's coming from the deep bedrock which is underneath your coastal plane sediments. Um so that was the purpose of this. Can we design a new well in a way to avoid it? Um, unfortunately um you know we did we did submit a a memo with some more detail on this um last week I believe but essentially what we confirmed is that palonium 210 is your source u which was you know there's some very early sampling that was done back in 2018 I believe when this first arose as an issue. Um but that's needed information to help design treatment for it. Um, you know, bad news here is there's not a significant difference in the radioactivity from one elevation to the other. Um, at least in well number four, meaning that we're not going to be able to design a new well intentionally that avoids the radioactivity issue at at that location. Um, it's likely that that's true across the board. Um, but we can really just speak about that one location for now. But what that really means is that the new well that gets put in needs to be constructed in a way that optimizes its yield, you know, capacity, get the most water out as you can. There's not really anything that we can propose to do on the construction of the well side to avoid the radioactivity. So what that means is treatment is likely going to be necessary. So we, you know, we were planning on this all along, which is why the grant applications went in requesting treatment um funds. So we were hopeful that there would be a way to avoid it. Um but that does not appear to be the case. Next slide. Uh so where do we go from here? I mentioned that there are currently two funding applications that are under review um both through uh the Virginia

Department of Health. So the first one we'll hear back on is uh midepptember for the house bill 1600 funding and then next shortly after beginning of October we should hear back on the state revolving funds. Um so following that you know a lot of this is really hinging on on funding. You know don't want to spend a lot of money up front if we can be reimbursed for it through these funds down the road. So we're hopeful to get moving on the rest of it after those funds come through. Um the first thing will be a well drilling um specifications document and invitation for bids that will need to be a competitively procured item um to meet the grant requirements. So there's two locations at this time that we'll plan on for that. We'll see what they yield. You know, if they're great wells, which we hope, you know, we'll be able to design them and we'll have a good contractor to to do that work. That may be all you need. Um so we're going to we'll see where that goes. Um, so the IFB is really the next step on that front. Um, and as was mentioned, it really makes sense to get the wells in the ground before getting too far along on the engineering side so you understand what water quality and yield you're dealing with and your well locations. Um, you know, that said, there is still some preliminary engineering work that could be done. Um, the packer test was first, you know, one of the first steps that we could do related to that. Next, I think is really it's a treatment alternatives analysis. What is the best option to deal with this? There's several different treatment technologies that could be considered. There's the option of do we have one centralized treatment location that all the wells route water to? Do we have smaller um treatment locations each well head? There's a lot of things to consider there for, you know, determining what's most effective, what's the most cost effective um you know, followed by some preliminary engineering and design work. that uh preliminary engineering report

um is due to the Virginia Department of Health um in May 1st, 2026 to meet their the corrective action plan requirements. So that's we'll need to move forward quickly after you know funds come under come in. So those are the next immediate tasks. Um I've put the the remainder of the tasks to get through to um you know through 2029 the bottom there. you know, ultimately we'll have well construction, drilling and construction, preparing final engineering plans, construction, permitting, tying in of those wells. Um, but those are all a little bit further down the road. Um, you know, later into next year to get started on. Do

you have to drill test wells first?

Um, so no. uh you're somewhat fortunate in the PTOIC aquifer that you know essentially what depth you need to construct the well to to find the aquifer. What what needs to be ironed out is where those screens get placed which will happen as the well is being drilled. So we won't have a separate test well associated with that. We may have on the same location, we may have a bore hole that goes in in advance of well construction just to figure out those intervals, see if we want to, you know, procure specialty materials to, you know, optimize the efficiency of the well before it's put in the ground. But there won't be a standalone test well there. It might just be a process of doing a a bore hole without a well, getting some information, and then going back and putting the well in the ground, you know, at that same spot. Is there a reason that we are absolutely committed to having to use the PTOAC aquifer as opposed to the shallower aquifer of the aqua aquifer?

Yeah, great question. Um, so the aqua aquifer in some places can yield a substantial amount of water. Um, in others it can yield almost nothing. um in this location it's a very thin I don't have the numbers in front of me but we did a we did an alternatives analysis early early early on in this before we even submitted the permit application I think it was 2019 2020 even um where the aqua was deemed to be insufficient source based on the likely quantity and I believe there were also some what DEQ called critical cells right in the town vicinity which basically means even a small amount of water withdrawn from it would not be permittable by DEEQ. So, we did evaluate it. Yes.

Okay. Thank you. Any questions from this council? Um, town manager.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, just wanted to highlight um and thank Bryant and and Stantex work um over the last several months um almost a year it feels like. I do just want to highlight that it was staff's work to to acquire those um grants, the $45,000 that we received last year. Myself and Mr. Livier worked on that work who's no longer here, but also Sean who's done significant work in pulling data that we need for all of this information in public works and council for adopting the legislative agenda last year for the first time. A large portion of why we are at the front of the line for this um this funding is due to council's adoption of the legislative agenda um that I drafted and I worked um through the last general assembly process with our legislative uh delegation at the state so that we are at the front of the line along with Green County. So, I'd like to definitely thank uh Senator Stewart, Delegate Pew Kent, um as well as um some senators uh who are not in our region um that have put helped us get to the front of the line to resolve our issues on behalf of the town and to lessen the burden for um our taxpayers in the town. So, I definitely um just want to thank everyone for that effort. Um and just to to highlight a little bit more, I spoke with VDH earlier this week. We will probably know on both of those things as our results um in midocctober. um the federal funding is contingent upon um the federal budget. Uh so with that caveat um it could be a little bit later than that depending on what happens at the federal level in the federal budget.

Thank you. Any other questions? Brian, thank you so much for giving us this report. Thank you.

We will move on to item number six. And at this time, I will turn it over to our town manager so she can give her June and July report. Thank you, Madam Mayor. I'll be brief um in the interest of time. Uh we are hoping to get our FY23 audit um in the middle of August uh draft with the final audit for presentation in September. I will notify council if we have any changes um from our audit firm um in between that. And then the goal is to uh catch up and start FY24 immediately thereafter. um some updates on our software system transition. Uh we've completed phase one and phase two of that. Um transitioning from Keystone to Southern Software. Um I'd like to commend our staff who've put in over 500 plus staff hours as well as um the public has been patient with us um as we did have to close down the offices um for that transition at the end of June and July um to get that work done. there were uh thousands of data entry um that had had to take place um from the old system to the new system. We have transitioned to on a new online bill billing provider which is on our new website um and we put in the newsletters as well. Uh we have a new credit card terminal in town for processing. We have new account numbers for customers, new internal portters portals for efficiencies and effectiveness of operations. Um there was um a mention earlier of of bills um being delayed. Uh some of that was due to um this new system transition, but we've also uh been working with our bill printer um who had um some hiccup with getting some of them out to some of our customers. Um so that is going out um I think that went out last week. Um there is a note on there that there will be no penalty and interest to those people who receive their bills later. Um and they have until an extended grace period until September 5th to make those payments. Um, so that is u an item for update. Uh, as it relates to grants and economic

development, we submitted a final application to the in collaboration with the George Washington Regional Commission for $300,000 grant uh to investigate the town system uh with CCTV uh where possible and then to cure in place uh where possible. I'd like to thank Web and Associates for assisting us with that work. We submitted that in July as well. July 18th, we completed our grant closeout for the fire department state grant and dispersed those $15,000 funds to them. We've completed our grant closeout process for our DEQ litter grant and then submitted a new grant application as well um for DEEQ for this annual um litter round grant round. We've also continued to work with Main Street um as as they've received a technical assistance grant uh that we've been collaborating with. Uh, as you would see, we've presented um the per findings from AECOM, who presented just a few minutes ago. We've continued coordination of the VDH grant project, um, which Stansac just mentioned and presented just a few moments ago. And we've continued with the easement acquisition process on the USDA waterline project. Um, in addition, uh, we've done recruitment for our boards and commissions for BCA as well as EDA. We've continued to work with the town attorney, which you have on this agenda for a town code update. Um, a hold over item from 2018 or 2019 that we are um cleaning up um for council consideration tonight. Uh we closed out our Atlantic Union Bank future maker internship program. Uh Mr. Beal gave us some some additional capacity over the last two months um assisting with everything from data entry to um design for a harvest festival. So he um was great and like to thank Mr. Ashcraft who assisted uh with the grant um enabling us to get that $4,000 for that additional capacity for this summer. Uh we've also continued working with uh Fort AP Hill um in the procurement efforts there. We completed they completed their first uh project in June as it relates to HVAC repairs at some of their facilities and Mr. Fortune

um assisted them with that. We have two more bids that will go out um have gone out this month um with their next projects and then we've had um some interest obviously in events. Harvest Festival is underway. We've held stakeholder meetings there. And then we have recently received an application for uh youth for a 5K and a youth one one mileer race in May of 26 and that'll be on the agenda for council consideration next month. Um and that'll conclude my report. I'd be happy to answer any questions that you have. Are there any questions from councel? Um, Miss Adams Jacobs, the billing of the sewer and the water, I know that there was some slight glitches there. Are they the billing company working with like people that don't have sewer getting the sewer fee? And I mean they were really wonderful to take it off and everyone I've spoken to that it was miss. They've all said that the office staff has been wonderful about it. But are they actively working to

Yeah, we've been actively working with um our new system provider but as well as our billing um and and through this process obviously there are things that have been identified as um some historical challenges that we've heard anecdotally. So this through this we're troubleshooting and it may be that at some point in the future we look um potentially for another billing company if we can't get the the files accurate um and the bills corrected. But we will give them some time with the new provider um to try to work through that. But we'll we'll assess after a couple more billing cycles.

Okay. And I would like to add one more thing to this real quick. For the harvest festival, for the first time, we are going to have television coverage. Miss Adams Jacobs and myself are going to be on Good Morning Richmond a week and a half before Harvest Festival so we can promote it to the greater Richmond area. So, we're hoping to have a much larger attendance this year. And I'm really excited about this because I've been asking for this for 15 years and I had to become mayor to get him pushed through. So, thank you.

Yes. Thank you. We will be on CBS 6 Virginia this morning. Yes. Um and my mother used to work for CBS, so thanks to her for also helping to make the connection.

Yes. Thank you. Okay. Next, um we are going to have uh a report, the treasur's report, the finance director, and Miss Toiver, you were not introduced at our last meeting because Miss Jacobs had to leave. So, I would like to welcome you as our new finance director. And um I will let Miss India give an introduction about you. You are correct, madame mayor. Let me see if I can pull up what she had written. Uh, give me two seconds. Well, I'll just go ahead. Uh, Miss Oliver joins us from the private sector. Um, she is a Caroline native, a Caroline High School graduate, a graduate of the University of Mount Olive, uh, former basketball star there, a division one athlete, um, also a graduate with a bachelor's in mathematics and a concentration in accounting, um, and has previous local government management or local government accounting experience. So, we're happy to have her join as part of the team and leave the private sector to come serve the citizens of the town of Bowling Green. So with that, I will hand it over to her to give her um update for this month.

Thank you. Um India kind of already touched on my two main points, but my report is enclosed um in you guys' packets. Uh the first item is the status of the town audits. As you know, they've been a little behind, but um in terms of the FY23 audit, everything that we've done on the town's part has been completed. We're just simply waiting to hear back from uh Robinson Farmer Cox and Associate. Um we did get a date set also for FY24 for when they will be able to be on site to start upon completion of FY23 and that will be September 15th I believe that we got from them. So hopefully we can get that rolling so we can keep getting caught up. Um the next thing is the status of the software conversion. as our town manager has already spoken about, it was very long. Um, but everyone in terms of the finance staff has worked a lot of hours and we were able to um have all of the active utility accounts transferred over from Keystone into Southern, which is our new system. Um, in terms of all of our third parties that were involved, including Inkco, our billing system, um, as well as PSN, which is our new payment portal service. Um, everything's been going smoothly with them with minimal ef minimal errors. If there are any errors, we have been doing our best to, you know, answer phone calls, uh, fix everything, um, if there is anything wrong. Um, but it has been minimal thankfully so far. Um, and then in terms of the front desk and customer service operations that we have, uh, when customers come into town halls, um, they have been very helpful with all of the events, any trash requests that we have been going on, um, business license processing, as well as any questions and concerns and complaints that we might

have from uh, customers in terms of setup for their new account numbers, um, as well as the new payment portal. And that's pretty much it. Any questions? Are there any questions from council? I do have a couple, but I want Are there any from council? Um, in going through this revenue and expense budget analysis, we have miscellaneous. Well, I see up top we have cigarette tax and meals tax and the projected for the original budget and then of course what we collect.

But down here further down it says miscellaneous and then under that sales tax our original budget we had budgeted 0 for that but I noticed that miscellaneous as uh 28.4662 4662 and sales tax 614507. What is that sales tax for? And what is the miscellaneous for?

So I believe that's something that we may have miscoded. Um those are two checks that we received I believe from Dominion. Um and again with the new transition um previously a lot of things were being coded just to miscellaneous instead of the individual line items for miscellaneous. So, that's something that we'll probably have to go back and put into the correct um line item, but I can look into that before I get back to you.

Okay. Then on the next page, on page two, um it says late fees and penalties. That also was originally budgeted 00. Um I see that we have uh brought in $3,11.50. What are those late fees and penalties for? Sorry, you said page two. Yes, ma'am. Um, underneath the treasurer uh one page 18. Oh, I'm sorry. At the top it says page two of seven. So, I was looking at that. Yes, page 18 at the bottom. I apologize. Yes, ma'am. I'll also have to look into that one and get to you.

Okay. And then the other thing, well, there's two other Sorry, I went over all of this, so I do have questions. Um, I was looking at the police department. In the police department, we have scheduled $10,500 for electricity. I'm curious why that little building has a $973.82 electric bill for the month of July. Yet, I see no electric bill for town hall. Are those I don't see any expenses actually for town hall. Are those Is that the same bill? Are they on the same electric bill? Are they two different services?

Um, it should both be through Dominion from what I've seen. Um, but it may have been coded differently, but I can look into that as well. Okay. Cuz that was listed. And then the other thing,

um, well, we don't I didn't see anything for our um our what Sean does. I'm I'm drawing a blank at the moment. That's not utilities. It's the other maintenance. Um, we have a vehicle fuel and oil budget of $3,000 for the police department. And for the month of July, they spent ext. How do you run police cars and not have any gas expenses? That is true. I'll also have to look into that as well. Okay. And so and then

so I'd like to just share that with some of the system conversion um we had to do AP towards the end of the month and so there may be that some bills that have gone out um have been paid since this this report was run. So that is a possibility as well. Um but we are looking into making sure those things are coded in the the correct way. One of the things that we did improve with this process is uh prior um account numbers did not uh necessarily um jive with the auditor public accounts uh what is required by the auditor public accounts. So we did in this process update um some account numbers for that process um and that's included in here as well. So we can follow up on some of those items. Anytime you have questions you can feel free to share them with us ahead of the meeting so that we can be prepared to answer some of those questions as well. Um why is there I guess is there's no section for the maintenance the maintenance department there's not a standalone maintenance department. So the public works um should be um included in here and if that's not pulling that's something we'll have to print. There are various different layouts. Um, so

I didn't see it. It was I would like that please in the future so I have a more accurate picture. It was always public works but it is missing in in this one. Yeah, I didn't see it. Are there any other from council? Okay. Thank you so much. This is lovely to meet you and I always ask a lot of questions so get used to it. I do the same thing. It's good to ask questions. Okay. Good. Okay, next we're going to move on to item number eight, the May and June utility report from Emboden. Hello Mr. Jamie. Good evening. How is everybody? We are well.

So I'm here like you said to read to give the presentation for the May and June report. Um everything was pretty calm, quiet. U this is all in the second quarter of reporting. Um, so the gross alpha was still elevated. Um, Stantech did a great job on their presentation what that's about. Um, for the wastewater plant, everything was business as usual. Everything is less than QL. Um, pretty much pretty much a quiet couple of months there for May and June. Um, any anybody have any questions? I know they're short and sweet. Any questions from this council? I have none today. Aren't you happy?

Thank you so much. Thank you, Jamie. Okay, we will move on to item number nine, the Bowling Green Police Department. The reports for June and July. Have council looked at that? I do have one question about this. Are there any questions from council? And this is kind of a budget question, too. Um, town hall events, you did two of them, one in June, one in July. We had the budget numbers for July. You were paid separate for um security, correct? Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Yes, ma'am. So, I didn't see that reflected in your budget as far as I know that's a different payment thing. It's over and above your normal pay. Correct. It is. Yes, ma'am. It's 47 an hour. They say town hall and then I get reimbursed. So, um cuz I like I when I looked at the budget, I didn't see it reflected as being brought in or being paid out. So, yes, ma'am. I I just wanted to mention that. Are there any other questions from council? Thank you so much. How did the night out go? Went well. Cooked over 100 hot dogs. Ran out. I think it was 125. We ran out.

A lot of people. Um I mean with the community that we have and of course all the partners, Caroline County, they uh helped out big time with it. Um the apartments on Chase Street donated the food. Um, it went well. Very cool. Yeah, I want to thank you for being involved in that and everybody else that held down. My family was able to go. I was I'm always working on Tuesday nights, so Yes, sir. Sorry to miss it. Thank you, Justin. I do have one other question. Yes, ma'am. Um, in in the budget, I also saw $86,5.13 collected for court fines. What kind of signs are those for? Is that for traffic violations or should

trash in the street or what? Yes, ma'am. That's what it's for. It's for court bonds. Okay. And that goes directly into our budget or do we have to We should receive it on the first of the month. Very good. Directly from the court. Okay. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Anything else? Have a great day. Thank you. All right. We'll move on to unfinished business item number 10, the town code update and adoption. And at this time, I will turn this over to um the town manager, Miss India Adams Jacobs, and our town attorney, Mr. Jeff Gore.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um back at the strategic planning retreat, we discussed the town code status um work that had been done prior um with our MUN code now Civic Plus um provider as it relates to an electronic town code. Um at after that subsequently we discussed um the reumbering that would needed to be done. Council approved an expenditure of $1,500 to work with Civic Plus to do that. Um they've completed that work. Jeff has done great work along with myself um to give them updated ordinances and the renumbering portion. So we have that before you um which you all will need to consider for adoption uh which after you all adopt uh we can post um to the town website um so everyone has access to that electronic um document. Um you all were shared a link with that um with the town code uh last week um and Mr. Gore drafted the ordinance uh that we got today um to adopt that. So, that's before you all for consideration. Um, anything else as it relates to the town code to be updated thereafter? What happened after um this potential action? And I'll turn it over to Mr. Gore if he has anything to add.

Uh, I think the manager has captured it accurately. So, first of all, I want to thank you all for authorizing this. This is a huge huge it seems simp like a simple thing but this is a great uh uh development for for staff for council for citizens. What's this going to do is allow us to post the updated code online um in a very clear easy to understand organized way. What happened was over the years the code council made various amendments and I have in my office. I don't even bring it anymore but I have the code book in my office with papers falling out and you know it's it's it's all there but it's jumbled up and the organization was something I'd never seen before as far as how the the code sections were were set out. So all this does is clean all that up. I mean so thankfully you know Indie was able to you know get a good raise from Civics Plus to do that. uh for the citizens knowledge, there's nothing substantive here. We're not changing any uh ordinance or law. Um simply organizing in a way that you can go online and understand it and find what you're looking for. So um this so so as a result of that, there's no uh public hearing. There's no um public notice required um to adopt this ordinance. We're just following state law. So the ordinance simply references the updated renumbered code which I think India earlier this week or last week at some point sent a link out. It's a big document. Um I think we were thinking there it is. So yeah, so we do have a printed copy but in all likelihood everyone's just going to use the online version. Um so anyway, I'm thankful for this too because it makes my job easier when I need to go look up something. I can be much more efficient. Um, so the ordinance before you I I just caught it. I apologize. Maybe you didn't see this, but I misspelled a couple names of council members. I apologize, Valerie,

Dan. Um, and uh, so we'll fix that. Don't worry about that. We will fix that. Um, but all it does is is adopt the updated code. Um, and as we've described it, and you can do this tonight and and as soon as possible, we will work with Civics Plus to get it posted. I'm sure there will be a link. This is something you can find on Google through their website, but also I'm sure there'll be a link on the town website. So, big improvement and I appreciate you all approving this. Any questions? Are there any questions? Okay. Well, at this time I would like to ask councel for a motion if that's what you choose to do.

I'll make the motion to adopt the re the reg reorganization of the code. I have um a motion from Councilman Hagaman. Is there a second? I'll second it. Second from Councilman Voit. Is there any further discussion? All in favor, raise your right hand. All motion passes unanimously. There you go, Mr. Boore. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

All right. At this time, we will move on to item number 11, new business, the surplus vehicle approval. And I will turn this over to Miss India Adams Jacobs, the town manager at this moment.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Um, in closing your packet is a memo from Mr. Ashcraft and Mr. fortune related to um surplus property. Um last year we we surplused some um some property. We sold a couple vehicles. Um we've identified uh through working with our staff chief police uh this 2014 Dodge Charger uh no longer meets operational requirements um maintenance costs exceed the operational benefit um for our organization. And so we'd like to get town council authority um to post this to go deals um for uh surplus and and disposition. Um any uh proceeds from this would go directly to the general fund budget. Uh we also have some other items that we will be bringing next month. Um we've done some significant cleanup um of our back town offices through our clean sweep back in May. We've identified some things that we no longer need. So we will bring that um as well. Uh it's a little bit more miscellaneous in nature. Um, but as we have vehicles, we obviously pay insurance on them. So, we want to be um cognizant of that. Vehicles that we're no longer using um and that don't meet operational requirements, we'd like to dispose of for call savings.

Are there any questions from council at this time? would like, if you are willing, uh, for council to authorize staff to initiate public bidding procedure and to prepare necessary legal documentation and coordinate disposal in a timeline to ensure compliance with municipal property disposition requirements. So moved.

That's mouthful. I have a motion from Councilman Voit. Is there a second? A second from Mr. Hagerman. Is there any further discussion? All in favor, raise your right hand. Motion passes unanimously. Next item on the agenda, um recommendations for appointments to the board of zoning appeals. And I will turn this over to the town manager at this time.

Uh thank you, Madam Mayor. At our previous uh work session, uh council discussed um applicants for both the B BCA um as well as the EDA. Um as it relates to BZA appointments, uh we have uh Miss Taylor Subbacus for a 4-year term, Mr. Tyler Gibson for a three-year term for appointment, and then Miss Jean Young for a five-year appointment for consideration. Are there any questions from council at this time? Hearing none, I would like to ask for a motion to accept these.

I make a motion to accept those three individuals. Uh, Jean Young, Tyler Gibson, Taylor Sebacus, pardon me, Taylor Sebastas for the uh, BCA. I'll second it. So, I have a motion from Councilwoman Vice Mayor Coyle, a second from Councilman Hagerman. Any further? Madam May, I I I believe this needs that's what you're going to say, isn't it? Yeah, this needs to be a recommendation. Clarification. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, then never mind. So, we just need a consensus. No, no, you need a vote. But the vote is not to appoint them. It's to recommend appointment. We need a recommendation to send this to the circuit court.

Correct. Okay. So, do you need to amend that? I recommend for appointments to the bon bon board of zoning appeals to the court for the three individuals Taylor Sebastas, Tyler Gibson, and Gene Young. Okay, we now and I'll still second that.

And we have a second by Mr. Aerman. Any further discussion? Thank you, Mr. Mo. Any further discussion? All in favor, raise your right hand. Motion carries. unanimously. The next item number 12, recommendations for appointment to uh the econ the EDA, the economic development authority. And I will at this time also turn this over to the town manager.

Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um just like the last item, town council considered um applicants. And so based on that consideration, we have uh Mr. Dirk Farmer for a term of three years. Miss Jessica Beiel for a term of three years. Mr. Kaire Lee for a term of two years. Miss Katrice Howard for a term of two years. Mr. Jason Mans for a term of four years. And Council Member Randy Haggman for a term of one year. And Council Member David Stork for a term of one year. So we have these recommendations. Is there any further discussion about this? Are you backing out, Mr. store asked me should I otherwise

oh oh that yes are they allowed to vote for themselves madame mayor he can but I think if he wants to abstain with regard to his appointment he's free to do that and Mr. Haggman also. Likewise. Okay. So, I would like a recommendation uh from the one of the five of you. All right. So, I will recommend for appointments to the economic development authority. Do I need to read each name? All right. So let's see how my brain Dirk Farmer, Jessica Beal, Jason Mans, Randy Hagman, David Stor,

Steve Howard, and I think that and Kylie for the terms as stated by the for the terms as stated by the town manager. Sorry. No, that's fine. So, I have a motion from Vice Mayor Coyle. Is there a second? Second.

I have a second from Dr. Chenalt. Is there any further discussion? I will take a vote from the five of you. Um, all in favor, raise your right hands. Motion carries. Five and two abstaining. Next item is the umou for GIS services for ST circa. It's an acronym Fiesta. Number 14. I guess I'll turn that over to town manager. here.

Thank you, Madam Mayor. Yeah, just an update. Um the town and working through um some of our efforts with the state uh Moonshot Missions as well as um some of our other prof partners um have worked with uh a company called CIRCAP who has once again provided us free services to the town um for uh GIS mapping which has been a a longtime wish I think of both council and the planning commission. Um and we have worked with them over the last several weeks. uh they came two weeks ago um to start that work. Um worked um with Mr. Fortune, our public works department um have gone out uh looked at all of our most of all of our assets uh from our pump stations to our lines, hydrants, things of that nature um so that we can have a GIS system um to better maintain and know where our infrastructure is in town. So this is a a big big project and a long time coming. Um just wanted to thank Mr. fortune for his work um and to notify you all that that will be coming um so that we have that internally moving forward.

Miss Adams Jacobs, you mentioned the fire hydrants. Are they being replaced at this time or are we still We are still awaiting some um some quotes on that. There's some um potential alignment that we want to make sure we have with the waterline project. Um but we are looking into that. Thank you. Are there any other questions from council at this time? All right, hearing none, let's move on to item 15, which is the SEID grant application. Miss Jacobs.

Yeah, I mentioned that in my monthly report um that we worked with um Web and Associates to assist us with that per um there was a short turnaround um both myself and Mr. Smith um worked on a grant uh to get pre-approval. Um there was a very very like I mentioned short turnaround. We found out in May uh we met with the George Washington Regional Commission. Um I think we were one of the only localities in our regional commission that were able to get an application together in time. Um luckily we we know some of our needs in town um and were able to identify the rest of Main Street so that we can get the CCTV work as well as the uh cure in place uh to hopefully avoid uh what we had happen um in the downtown core and Main Street um in the future. So, uh, we will know in several months, uh, the status of that grant as well. Um, that is a 50/50. That's a one to one. Um, the total grant, um, request was for 300,000. So, uh, we would be on hook for half of that.

Thank you. Any questions for the town manager? Um, at this time, I did not see anyone new come in, but we will open this up for public comment if there's anyone that wants to speak. And I'm not going to repeat the rules. Anyone out there? Okay. At the Clintons public comment a few minutes ago. Um I will allow that at this. Go ahead.

Those two recommendations who are two

is the process. We put this out publicly and ask um for people to apply. Not all the positions have to be people that live in town. There are rules and regulations for which we have to use. BA they have to live in town. EDA they do not. Um many of these people live in town or they have businesses here and or they work at some of the businesses here. So, um, we can give you a list. We There's at least two of them. I never heard of them. That's why I'm asking. Okay. So, each I never heard of.

Well, they are all, um, citizens here in the county of Caroline. Are they? Not all of them. And I don't know which two you're referring to, so I'm not sure. You want me to tell you? Yes, please. The one that for the three, I can't pronounce the name. everyone. Gene, Tyler Gibson, uh, ice cream place. Taylor Sebaceious is a, uh, resident here in town who applied for it. She is actually a new resident. She just moved in in 2024. I agree.

On the other one, I know. I know. I know. Can can we I'll tell you. Can you ask the town manager after the meeting? Yes, ma'am. We will we will get the answer to you. I promise. I appreciate your help. Yes, ma'am. Okay. Well, at this time, um we will move on to member comments. Miss Davis, do you have any? I have none. Mr. Roy, Mr. Webb, no. Dr. Small,

Vice Mayor Coyle, nope. Mr. Stor, no, ma'am. Mr. Hagerman, no. I have none. That's unusual. Um, well, I actually do. Thank you all for coming. It's so nice to see all of you sitting out there. At this time, I would like uh a motion to go to close session from this council

at at the session at at close session. Yeah, we're still Yeah, because we haven't made a decision. Madam,

Madame Mayor, I can state the motion. Um, and we'll include um three state code sections uh for the uh closed closed meeting discussions. So, we need a motion to convene in close session pursuant to Virginia code section 2.23711 A3 for the discussion of the acquisition of real property for a public purpose where discussion in open session would adversely affect the bargaining position of council pursuant to 2.2371 23711A88 for consultation with legal counsel and pursuant to 2.23711A1 for uh consideration discussion of candidates for uh the position of planning and community development director and for discussion of performance and compensation of specific town employees.

So you have heard it. May I have a motion? So moved. I have a motion for second. Councilman Stor, a second from Councilman Hagman. Any discussion? Okay. All in favor raise your right hand. We will move to close session and we will take a 10m minute recess while people leave and we get our texts together. Thank you.

Okay. So, madame mayor, council members, we're back in open session. We need a motion and a roll call vote to certify that we only council only discuss items identified in the closed session motion as permitted under Virginia Freedom of Information Act. So moved. I have a mo a motion from Councilman Stok, a second from Councilman Hagamman. Is there any discussion? All in favor, raise your Oh. Oh, sorry. It's a It's a certification. Miss Davis, I certify. Mr. Voit, I certify. Mr. Web, I certify. Dr. Chanel, I certify. Vice Mayor Coyle, certify. Mr. I certify. Mr. Hagerman,

I certify. We are back into open session. Uh if we have no more business before this council at this time, I would respect on the project scope. Oh, okay. Well, then we do have more business. It's just not on my agenda. So, you want guidance on the project scope? It needs some kind of clarity. Yeah. to do.

We think what India wanted was she wanted clarity on whether she is board with additional services but I feel like I can't be part because no you shouldn't um

you are excused Mr. Web. So at this time, what what would this council like to ask of the town manager? Mr. Stork, it looks like you're ready to talk. So in uh India and Percy u so for clarification purposes um what do what do we need to address so that you all know how to move forward given the fact that we've addressed the question about whether we're going to get easements or not which we've decided not to but the scope of this work what what exactly do you need from us India

let's start with the fact that you have $5.5 million. That's all we have been working with that you since the discussions came about. The options that were given one and two, we we've now since the easements have have been set to the side, we know that we're going to face some additional costs. The estimate is around 114,000 give or give or take. First of all, I think the manager needs direction as to where do you want that portion of the money to come from? Do you want it to come from the 5.5 million which would reduce the scope and stay within that 5.5 million? That would be staff's recommendation not to do that.

Absolutely. I think we we've still got the same pot of yes poker chips and I say we need to get as much done as we can with that original mount. Um and and keep it the keep the core stuff like she mentioned downtown our our our governmental things and our and our money makers and back into that number. And if your emphasis is downtown, which it may not have really been to this point, then that might cause a little bit of a change, you can still stay in budget, but it just reduces the project somewhere else. I guess on the on the outskirts,

I don't see why we have any other choice. I mean, I just say we back into that original amount. Okay. Okay. With the tax increases that we just put in, that should help further down the line. Sure. with some additional funds. And as we get caught up by the end of next year into 2027 and we don't have these audit fees that we're paying, we'll also have some more funds that we can convert from one area back to these projects. Yeah. And I I mean think for the for our foreseeable future, any big infrastructure projects we do, there's going to have to be some grants and some I mean, we're just not going to be able to

No, cuz stuff. Okay. And just so I'm clear uh for the record, I'm you all are authorizing me to um for this additional proposal for engineering services with web and associates in the amount of the estimate of $114,000 to execute that proposal. Is that the recommendation from this council? Right. Right. So the $114,000 is for engineering studies or that's the cost of the boring. That was the the differential in the price.

So it would be it would be both the additional work that's the cost associated with the engineering work and the additional for the born and and can that come out of the 5.2 million? I believe so. But that's assuming and making the assumption that we do receive that funding at some point. If we do not, that will be something that will have to be paid uh from the town's funds balance. We're already on the hook of 1.5 because we've done that work. Correct.

The I feel like the exact sex second that this thing falls apart on the USDA side, we need to bail and and pay off, you know, the 1.5. But if um and I just I'm hopeful that we can still get this 5.2. I mean, we if they're not talking and we're behind on audits and they're not happy with us. I mean, we're moving ahead like we've got that money in the bank, but we don't really have that money in the bank, right?

The money has been allocated to us. Um, but based on the five-year period that this has taken, um, they have obviously indicated that that funding is at risk and has been at risk um, since the town has been non-compliant with the audit requirements back to 21 or 22. calendar year, not fiscal year. That's that's just my opinion, but I mean, Miss Davis, do you have anything to add? Mr. Voit, your your opinion, recommendation. We've all talked. I mean, you know, getting everything fixed is the right thing to do because it's going to crumble underneath of us if we don't.

Mhm. you know, as as we continue with getting a little bit closer, you I think maybe to to David's point is like at some point, I guess there is a point in overturn if things get get funded, but um you know, with how we're moving now, like you know, we we move forward with this and if we find out next week that pull the funding, I feel like you could still pull the plug if you have advanced notice enough. But, you know, when are we talking that you know, shovels would hit the dirt? Yeah, I don't really know the time and based on the most recent update um based on the proposal, the bid would go out in December. I don't have that specific number as it relates to construction, but potentially strength.

It's not it's it's not out of the question to have the spring of 26 to where you really have some activity going. All right. So, March possibly depending on how long it takes you to uh you got your advertising period for your contract. you have near negotiations. Okay. Yeah, Dr. Schnalt. Yeah, I agree. I agree with this. We have to protect our Vice Mayor Coyle. I I I feel the same way. I think we should try to move forward. Mr. Stor. Okay. And Councilman Haggamman. Yes. Do you have your answer?

I think we need a roll call vote authorizing for the Yeah, I I will. I do want to indicate I didn't know if this was a recommendation or if this was um or if we have to take a vote. I think since it's a change in project, previously approved project scope that has a cost associated with it. I I think it's in order to have a motion to approve the change the change in USD project scope and associated cost as presented by staff. Okay. So, I will need a motion from someone on this council.

Okay. So I make a motion that um given the fact that we're not going to pursue because of the time constraints the easements that we shift to the plan B or two whatever it was um that we move forward with the project um keeping in mind that we we're going to scale it back to stay within the the original USDA grant amount or loan amount Does that cover enough? And and I would say that approve the revised project scope with associated costs identified by staff. Exactly.

Okay. Do I have a second? I have a second. A motion from Councilman Stor, a second from Vice Mayor Coyle. Um, any further discussion? I will take a roll call. Councilman Haggamman. Yes. Yes. Councilman Stor. Vice Mayor Coyle. Councilman Chanel. Yes. Councilman Webb is um he is it's not gone. It's what do you say when you I marked him down as abstained. Thank you. That's the was the word I was looking. He has abstained

due to uh conflict of interest. Thank you. And Councilman Boy, it's me. Yes. and council woman. Well, one one modest addendum and that is to authorize to authorize the manager to proceed with procurement and execution of the contract. So is that well not procurement just execution of the contract. Is that part of the motion? Yeah, I would just separate. You can do it separate. Let's do it separate. Okay. And that

let's supposed to do this. We got the roll call. It passes 6 to one and the one is the abstain. Okay. Now go on and make the other just just a motion to authorize uh manager to execute the associated uh contract. So moved. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? I'm going to take a roll call. Miss Davis. Yes, Mr. Roy. Yes. Dr. Chenol, yes. Vice Mayor Coyle, yes. Mr. Stor, yes, ma'am. Mr. Agamman. Yes.

Uh, vote is 6 to one. Mr. Web has abstained due to conflict of interest. Is there any other business before this council? I move that we adjourn. I move we go home. Okay. I have a motion for Mr. Stok, a second for Miss Davis. All in favor, raise your right hand. Meeting adjourned. Spend a night. I need eggs. He's going to the grocery store.

That's fire. And these citizens that think we don't do anything, you know, they need to come and walk in our shoes, don't they? Yeah. you know. Yeah.