City Council - Regular Meeting

We good? We're good. All right. Would you please rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you all for joining us this even. Jody, could you call the role, please? Dennis, here. Harold here. Holland here. Musgrave here. Odicio here. Fipps

here. Okay. The uh minutes from our September 15th meeting were distributed for your review prior to tonight. Are there any additions or corrections to those minutes? Hearing none. Do I have a motion to approve? So moved. Second. Properly moved and seconded. All in favor say I. I. I. Post. Same sign. Correspondence. Do we have correspondence this evening, Jody?

We do. One item, the financial budget summary reports for the months of August and September were received to council prior to this evening's meeting and are noted for the record. That's everything. Okay. Thank you. [Applause] Do we have lobby visitations this evening? We do. Joseph Demar. Joe, if you could give your name and address for the record, please.

We'll do. My name is Joseph Rosario Demar. I live at 517 South Main Street here in Bowling Green, Ohio. Uh, just a few things I wanted to bring to council's attention. A little bit of repetition here. Uh, one is that South Maine still has our illicit bike lanes, which in fact I used to get here today. It was very nice to just have that whole lane to ride my bike on. And once again, I'd like to suggest to council and public works that when the lines are painted, if and when this construction's ever finished, put a center turning lane, put two outside bike lanes, and keep the traffic one lane in either direction. I think it's working very well right now, and I think uh it would be nice if we continued it after the construction's over. Uh also, this is the end of the repetition. Last time I spoke to you, I suggested that the building, proposed building for the new fire stations is an opportunity, an opportunity to build stations that have uh solar power, that have geothermal heating and cooling, that have um backup battery systems powerful enough to make a micro grid in the case of a larger grid outage. And I suggested that this would be something that the city could use as a way of promoting the levy if people knew that they were paying to get fire stations that were truly resilient, fire stations that they they could depend on if there was some sort of larger disaster in this region. I think they would see that as an investment and I think they would be more likely to to vote for the levy. Um, I heard that the the mayor gave a very persuasive speech at the um at the senior center in favor of the levy. And uh I also heard unfortunately there was no mention of anything like solar panels or geothermal heating. And so I I think this might be a missed opportunity. Um right now, you know, I'm chair co-chair

of the Wood County Green Party and we're getting our annual voters guide ready. We've got about 10 volunteers working vetting candidates and issues and we're going to come down in favor of the levy in our in our voters's guide. But it would be much easier and it would be much more persuasive if we were able to say in our voters's guide that these are going to be fire stations that can serve as an example to the rest of the state and the rest of the country about the future of resiliency. you know, we know we have the technology. We have backup batteries. We have solar panels. We have geothermal heating and cooling. I think that should be the focus and I think you'd be more likely to get this passed. So, that's it for repetition. Uh, a few other issues I wanted to bring up. One is a little bit serious and that is um sticking with the whole idea of what we're doing with the roads in the in the in the city. Right now, the traffic lights downtown are default don't walk. So that even if the lights change, it doesn't say walk unless a pedestrian pushes the walk button and then it'll then it'll tell you to walk. And this I've seen this create confusion because people are waiting at the light. The light will change. They have the light, but they don't have the walk sign. And so they hesitate. They don't start walking because it still says don't walk. And sometimes they hesitate and then they start walking after the cars that are coming on are starting to make their turns. And it's a I think that the default should be the street the signs should say walk when the lights change. In other words, we need to prioritize the pedestrians over the traffic. So that's one suggestion I wanted to make to council. Uh another uh tonight you're going to be voting on

or you have a first reading for an ordinance that uh talks about towing charges. And I was reading through that ordinance 70.35. And in section B1, subsection E, EV storage. If a car, if an EV gets towed, it's going to get charged a storage fee of $75 per day. When other cars that get towed have an outside storage fee of only $40 a day and you know, greens, we encourage this transition to electric vehicles. And I don't see any reason to charge EVs that are being stored outside more than gas cars. I mean, EVs are 10 times less likely to catch fire. They don't drip. They don't leak gasoline. They don't leak oil or transmission fluid. Um, this just seems like the city adding insult to the injury of the state's uh unreasonable uh registration fees for electric vehicles where we're already owners of EVs are already paying more than people who drive gas cars for our uh registration. Uh I think that's just about it except you know the city again has opportunities. This is an opportunity to show that that the city is not opposed to EVs and so just just eliminate that subsection E cross that right off there. That's it from unless anyone has any questions or comments.

Nope. Thank you very much. Thank you very much you

Mary Hinkleman. Mary Hkelman, executive director of the Bowling Green Chamber of Commerce and Visit BG Ohio, 217 South Church Street. And I would like to say good evening to all of you. Last week I had the opportunity to go to the Ohio Travel Association conference in Geneva on the lake. um we um get together as tourism industries and we have workshops and all kinds of great things that we get exposed to and Geneva really rolled out the red carpet for us. But the one super highlight that I would like to bring to you is we did submit BG4 by4fest for a Ruby Award in the category of best new experience. Out of 17 awards, 241 applications were sent in for Ruby Awards and we made it to the finalists and at the convention we were told we won a citation of excellence which was second place. So, we were recognized to our peers um that we were doing this in Ohio. And maybe it doesn't sound like a whole lot, but to put it in perspective, 57 billion industry, the tour tourism industry is 57 billion. And of that, um we have 4 um 43,000 jobs in that industry. It is a true economic development industry. And um I just wanted to let you all know that that's what we're doing. If you didn't make it out to 4x4 fest this weekend, we started out with a um hype event out at

um their Chrysler Dodge Jeep and Ram. And um from there on Saturday we had um the event down at the fairgrounds. And um I was able to present my choice award of those that were at the park and shine. And the couple that I gave it to came down cuz I was sitting at the tableabling booth at the Pratt Pavilion um after the awards were done and they came down. They said, "We just talked to you. You have to see. you picked our car. So, I went up and talked to them and they were so impressed with coming down and they came from Indiana, by the way. These are not just local people that are coming. They came from Indiana. Um, they lost their power steering when they got to town. Their alternator quit working. They got to advanced auto and they proceeded to give them two business cards on someone that could work on their car. This person came and picked them up, took them to their hotel with their luggage and called them the night before um to let them know their vehicle was ready to come down. They he'd pick them up so they could test drive it. Now that's hospitality and that's Bowling Green and I'm very proud for what I do. Have a good night.

All right. Thank you,

Rose Drain. Hello, my name is Rose Drain. Uh, I live at 228 East Court Street and I am with BG Song's housing revitalization team. Uh, we hosted uh our first major project in the fall and spring of 2024, Rock the Block. We followed that up with Rake the Block in the fall of 2024. This spring we had um South Main Springs Alive and this fall we are sponsoring uh Rock Bets. So I'm here this evening to ask you and members of the community to help uh BG Song uh have this event be successful. We have 20, I think 20 homeowners, uh, veterans and senior citizens who have asked for a variety of projects to be done at their homes. Um, so I have a QR code on this flyer that you can scan if you would like to sponsor, uh, donate or share some time as a volunteer. Um, thank you very much much and um looking forward to interacting with you as we rock our bets.

Thank you very much. That's everyone for this evening. Okay. Thank you. All right. That brings us to the introduction of new legislation. Mr. President,

Mr. Harold. On behalf of the finance committee, I have a resolution authorizing the municipal administrator to sell surplus city-owned property by way of internet auction. And I have an ordinance providing supplemental and/or amending appropriations for the current expenses and other expenditures of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio during the fiscal year beginning January 1st, 2025 and ending December 31st, 2025. And from the transportation and safety committee of council have an ordinance amending and adopting changes to section 70.35 of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green Ohio regarding eligibility for police tow list and establishment tow charge rates.

Thank you Mr. President. Mr. Odicio

from the community Improvement Committee. I have two ordinances. Uh the ordinance amending and adopting chapter 123 regarding low-speed micromobility device shared rental program operators of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio. And uh the ordinance amending and adopting section 72.39 regarding low-speed micromobility devices of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio. Okay, brings us to official reports. Mr. Mayor, thank you, Mr. President. Good evening, city council. I don't have a formal report, but I did want to reply just very briefly to Mr. Dear's comments in return in in regards to um features that will be implemented into the new fire stations if the levy is successfully approved in November. Um Mr. Demar, you know, is correct. We have chosen not to implement the systems that he has previously suggested into those buildings and the primary factor for um the decision to not do that is cost containment. As you're aware, um we are on the ballot seeking a increase in the income tax to support the construction of these two fire stations. And it has been our goal from the very beginning of this process to minimize to the peak of ability peak of our ability the amount of uh additional revenue that is require that is required to build them and also to contain the cost um as much as we reasonably can. And our goal is to construct fire stations that are built um that have features that will support the activities of a modern uh fire station both now and well into the future and are sized appropriately to continue to meet that same goal um serving the community both now and well

into the future. Um but I did want to assure um residents that although we have chosen not to implement those type of systems into the building that these stations will be equipped with um systems that will make certain that the stations will be online and available for their intended use at all times. there will be redundant systems in place to to asssure that there is um HVAC um electric and all of those uh communications most especially but all of those things that are that would be considered um essential services to those buildings will be on backup systems and they will be available those stations will be online 24/7 under normal circumstances of course you can never predict um what type of national for what type of natural um event we could experience in the future. But um to the best of our ability, we are doing everything possible uh to contain the cost and implement those systems that will make those buildings available um 247. So I just wanted to assure council and our citizens that that is the the goal and the objective.

Uh anyone have any questions for the mayor? Yes. Uh Mr. President. So we are not implementing any of the specific requests that Mr. Demar mentioned. Our current station is several decades old though the new east side station and the headquarters going in on the north end will be more energy efficient than what we have now. Correct.

No question. Yeah. the HVAC systems, the electrical systems will all be modern technology that is much more um effective in terms of electric use. Um there will be probably a a a natural gas driven generator that will provide backup power in case, you know, electrical service is is interrupted. Um, but yes, all of those systems, just like this building, um, are are very modern, state-of-the-art systems that are very, very energyefficient and tremendously, um, more so than than those systems that are in the current buildings. Thank you.

Any other questions or comments for the mayor this evening? Okay. Thank you, city attorney, Mr. Brown. Good evening. I have no report as you can tell. Lori is also not here. So I am here tonight as well I suppose but no report. Okay. I do have one question if you could help me with some. Um so Joe had mentioned that there's a difference in storage charges between regular vehicles and EVs. Yes. Could you enlighten me?

I can attempt to I see several people in our audience that uh was part of the origin of that legislation. they might be better able to speak to that reason, but my understanding is because there's different rules as to how to uh towing companies store electric vehicles. Is that correct? So, because there's different rules, they have to be so far away from certain things and that kind of thing, which incurs an extra cost for them. That's my understanding.

Okay. Uh, anyone have any questions for Mr. Brown or Mr. Brown acting as Miss Treader? Okay, thank you very much. Public infrastructure director, Mr. Okonnell. Uh, no report unless you have questions. Does anyone have any questions for Mr. Okonnell this evening? It looks like uh the curbs and everything are just about done on South Main Street. Yeah, they continue to make make good progress out there. So, we're we're sticking to the schedule having it done done this year. So, I only mentioned that because every time I go to my parents house, my father yells at me. So,

we're almost there. Keep moving along. We're almost there. Okay. Uh, all right. That brings us to council committee reports. Do we have any council committee reports this evening, Mr. President? Mr. Harold. Uh, I would imagine if Greg were here, he would remind us all that there's a finance committee meeting for the next meeting, I believe it is, to go over the previous quarter uh finance report. Okay. Anything else, Mr. President? Miss Fipps.

Uh, before tonight's meeting, we held the required public hearing on ordinance 9308. It's pretty quiet. We didn't hear any public comment um or receive any uh correspondence on the ordinance. Okay. Any uh any other committee reports? Okay. Hearing none, that will bring us to the reading of legislation. Jody,

legislation for first reading. Resolution 3894 for first reading. Resolution authorizing the municipal administrator to sell surplus city-owned property by way of internet auction. Ordinance 9315 for first reading. Ordinance providing supplemental and/or amending appropriations for the current expenses and other expenditures of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio during the fiscal year beginning January 1, 2025 and ending December 31, 2025. Mr. Mr. President, Mr. Harold,

I move that we suspend the rules and give ordinance 9315 its second and third readings. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Jody Herald, yes. Holland, yes. Musgrave, yes. Odicio, yes. Fipps, yes. Dennis, yes. Okay. The rules are suspended for ordinance 9315. Ordinance 9315 for second and third readings. Ordinance providing supplemental and/or amending appropriations for the current expenses and other expenditures of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio during the fiscal year beginning January 1, 2025 and ending December 31, 2025.

Mr. President, Mr. Herald, I move that we adopt ordinance 9315. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Uh, is there any discussion? Jody, Holla, yes. Musgrave, yes. Odicio, yes. Fipps, yes. Dennis, yes. Harold, yes. All right. Ordinance 9315 is adopted.

Ordinance 9316 for first reading. Ordinance amending and adopting changes to section 70.35 of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio, regarding eligibility for police tow list and establishment tow charge rates. Ordinance 9317 for first reading. Ordinance amending and adopting chapter chapter 123 regarding low-speed micromobility device shared rental program operators of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green. Ordinance 9318 for first reading. Ordinance amending and adopting section 72.39 regarding low-speed micromobility devices of the codified ordinances of the city of Bowling Green, Ohio. Legislation for second reading. Resolution 3891 for second reading. resolution accepting the amounts and rates as determined by the budget commission and authorizing the necessary tax levies and certifying them to the county auditor. Resolution 3892 for second reading. Resolution adopting a cyber security program that safeguards the city's data, information technology and information technology resources to ensure availability, confidentiality, and integrity. Resolution 3893 for second reading. resolution authorizing the filing of an application applications with the Ohio Department of Transportation for federal and state grants and executing a contract with the Ohio Department of Transportation ODOT upon project approval.

Ordinance 9312 for third reading. Ordinance authorizing the mayor to enter into a gift and sale and purchase agreement with Robert and Patricia Mau to acquire certain property on Newton Road. Mr. President, Mr. Harold, I move that we adopt ordinance 9312. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion?

Yes. I have one discussion item from Greg Rabinet who wasn't able to attend tonight's meeting regarding ordinance 9312. This is important legislation that will have a significant positive impact on the safety of the citizens of Bowling Green and represents a critical first step towards the goal of building a new main fire station. The property has an appraised value of $639,000 and the owners have agreed to gift a portion of the property such that the city will pay $240,000 for the parcel. A significant advantage to this parcel is that it is contiguous to the community center and to city-owned property to the south. This city-owned property could be used to develop fire training facilities, but the potential uses by the fire department, fire division for that city-owned property are many. This is an important purchase for the city.

Okay. Any further discussion? Right. Jody Musgrave. Yes. Odicio. Yes. Fipps. Yes. Dennis, yes. Harold, yes. Halen. Yes. Uh, ordinance 9312 is adopted. Ordinance 9313 for third reading. Ordinance authorizing the renewal of a temporary reduction andor moratorum of certain residential building permit fees. Mr. President, Miss Fipps. Uh, I move to adopt ordinance 9313. Second.

Properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? I have comments from Greg Rabinet on this ordinance as well. Greg's very Yeah. He's so chatty tonight. Yes. Incredibly lequacious.

The most effective tool that BG City Council has at its disposal is positively affect housing within the city is the zoning code. The new zoning code that went into effect in July 2023 creates opportunity for development in at least four housing zones and three housing districts. But just as important are the actions council took between 2023 and 2025 to wave certain fees for new residential construction, including sidewalk staking, subdivision plan approval, zoning permits, construction inspection, excavation permits, and utility related fee waivers. These fee waivers have had a positive impact on new housing starts and expire in December. It is critically important that council approve this legislation to extend the waiverss for another two years.

Okay. Uh any further discussion hearing? None. Jody Odicio, yes. Fipps, yes. Dennis, yes. Harold, yes. Holland, yes. Musgrave, yes. All right. Ordinance 9313 is adopted. Ordinance 9314 for third reading. Ordinance authorizing the municipal administrator to enter into contracts for the installation of a fluid applied membrane roof at the Bowling Green Community Center. Mr. President, Mr. Musgrave, I move to adopt ordinance 9314. Second.

Properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? Is there any discussion from Greg? There is not in that case. Jody Fipps, yes. Dennis, yes. Harold, yes. Holland, yes. Musgrave, yes. Odicio, yes. Okay. Ordinance 9314 is adopted. Ordinance 9308 comes off the table automatically. Mr. President. Miss Fipps. Uh, I move to adopt the emergency clause for ordinance 9308. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Jody

Dennis, yes. Harold, yes. Holland, yes. Musgrave, yes. Odicio, yes. Fipps, yes. All right. The emergency clause is adopted for ordinance 9308. Mr. President, Miss Fipps, I move to adopt ordinance 9308. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? Hearing none. Jody, go ahead.

Um, I just wanted to uh relay a few comments. Um, for those that were at the planning commission meeting, uh, the planning commission, of course, they did their due diligence. They always do. Um, but what I sensed was not being real thrilled with this. In fact, uh the there the the basic gist of the conversation that they had prior to their vote was basically, well, there's a lot of good reasons not to vote for this, but we really need to pass it along to council. And so I myself of course and and we all do uh put a great deal of um respect on the planning commission and the other boards and commissions. But I just wanted to relay that uh one of the planning commission members was saying wasn't basically I'm paraphrasing wasn't thrilled with picking winners and losers. Not sure it's going to be effective in other places because this was just the vape shops, not where vaping products are sold. And uh it won't stop getting into underage underage individuals getting into purchasing the the product, which was of course part of the reason for the whole thing. And uh another member agreed with that. And uh then another member mentioned something about free market, but uh on the flip side, how many do we need in the city? So I guess the point that I'm meandering to, and maybe I should have printed it up and had Jody read it, um is uh this was not an overwhelming

affir affirmation by the planning commission. There were some reservations, but they knew they had the responsibility to send it to council. As far as uh I'm concerned, I I recognize the uh it's easy to recognize. It's so evident the amount of work that uh planning department put into this. It's a lot of research. I appreciate it. And the the the main two issues that I have with the legislation, and again, there's a lot good in it, is the idea of within a mile, um prohibit prohibiting vape shops within a mile. And I think what happens there is that ends up um favoring those shops that are already there. And if we didn't have an issue with at least some of the shops, perhaps we wouldn't have this legislation. So, I'm uncomfortable with that. Um, and although I think there's a lot of good in it, um, I don't know as if it will be that effective in what we were hoping to get accomplished. Um, so that that's my two cents worth. I may be overvaluing that. Any other discussion?

Uh, Mr. President, uh, I I also appreciate all the work that uh, planning commission did uh, to get us to this point, calling attention to the issue, considering policies in other municipalities, engaging the public, giving the public the opportunity to engage. Um I think the legislation in front of us has several issues for me personally. Uh the first would be uh the onem radius which will prohibit new businesses from opening in the city of Bowling Green. New businesses of this type. Anyways, uh I don't vape. I I can't say I've ever been in a vape shop. Um I don't really like the look of them. I think the signage uh the signage provision here is good. I don't like the vacant storefronts either. And it seems like we will be trading one for the other. Um, you know, the same is true of the thousand ft within a school, university, public park, public library, place of religious assembly, child daycare center, or other use specifically established specifically for the activities of minors. I think we can get at that by limiting the zones where these are permitted. And we have done that. The,000 ft radius is going to be prohibitive. Uh to Councilman Herold's point, I think that that will reward the businesses that have already been established and from what I recall, the main reason for proposing this is that we have a problem with underage sales among existing businesses. I don't know why I do not see limiting competition for those businesses as a sol excuse me, as a solution to that problem.

uh limiting the hours to 10:00 p.m. to 8:00 a.m. for I mean again that telling these businesses they cannot sell after 1000 p.m. when young children are presumably not out and about attempting to purchase vapes does not make any sense to me at all. If anything, I would say reverse that. Uh there's no amendment before us today. So I mean I I just really don't know that you know and I guess finally uh provision G creating an exception for vape shops that are currently in existence. Again if if the problem is that we are selling to miners the businesses that we have now we take it one step further by creating a carveout for those businesses. So, I'm just not sure that this solves the issue and I don't think that I can vote for this legislation as drafted.

So, are you suggesting a change or that we all should vote no? I did not have access to my email this weekend. I know you've got a a midnight uh deadline on Saturday. So, if you would entertain amendments, I would be happy to make them. Uh, I think that's fair under the circumstances. Okay. Can I jump in first?

Absolutely. uh in light of what has just been said and to maybe take this a piece at a time and uh also just emphasizing any actions votes uh by me uh are not an approval of vaping and are not uh they're more there's other reasons that I've stated but it's not an approval of vaping. So I move that we amend section 150.69 to eliminate A and then of course reletter and everything everything else. A is no tobacco or vape store may be established, operated or enlarged within one mile of another tobacco or vape store. So this amendment would uh eliminate that.

Second. Okay. It's been properly moved and seconded. Discussion.

Um, I think the city has uh comparable regulations for alcohol. We have a limit on the number of liquor licenses. uh we have a limit on the number of s stores that can sell liquor and alcohol. Uh I think it is in the public interest to make sure that we are limiting access to restricted materials by minors. I know that there's a huge problem with vape being available in the middle school, uh, in the high school. And I I think we have an interest in making sure that our community is protecting the kids that live here. So, we're working within the uh the framework of what we have available. I think these regulations are not uh I I mean they pass constitutional muster and we're trying to restrict the amount of these stores that are in our city and I think this does that in a way that doesn't damage the businesses that are already here but also protects our community from uh uh quite frankly an uncomfortable proliferation. Five five years ago, how many of these stores were here? A few, a handful, but hut. But you know, all these smoke shops

started popping up because uh it's an easy business model. But it's an easy business model because it's selling uh addictive material in our community. Great. As an adult, people can engage in whatever they want to do. Uh you want to drink, you want to vape, all good. Uh we have so many of these in our community that they're not actually currently sustainable. And so they're selling to our kids. And I think that is a problem. And I think this legislation is going to limit new stores coming in. And we can allow the ones that are here to like go through the, you know, commercial viability test and see what comes out of it at the other end. So I support this legislation as written. Oh, Mr. President, if I if I can ask a question of the city attorney with respect to the constitutionality of this ban. As recently as when council enacted its moratorum, there was legislation pending, I believe, or litigation pending before the Supreme Court. Has that been resolved? Do we know?

I think that's still pending. My guess is this wouldn't reach as far as the matters involved in there. It's not a complete ban that sort of thing. It's not a moratorium itself. So even though it is in effect a ban I mean if you look at the maps that we were given there is 100% overlap between each of those. Well you're going to get subpoenaed that now so thank you. But any other discussion? I can't let the threat of a subpoena prevent me from I understand. I'm just saying I might disagree with you as all.

Any other discussion on this? Okay. So then if I understand correctly, the motion was to strike uh section 150.69A. Correct. Okay. Jody, could you call the role, please? Harold. Yes. Holland. Uh, no. Musgrave. No. Odicio. No. Fipps. No. Dennis. Yes. Okay. So, that motion did not pass. Do you have another one,

Mr. President?

Yep. I won't make a motion, but I do support I um uh striking D the in-person hours if that's a direction that Mr. Harold or Mr. Dennis wanted to go next. You do have my support there. I mean, I I I generally think that um you know, our our zoning code regulates uses. This is we are regulating use here. I think um I think planning planning commission's discussion was very thoughtful um on kind of um Heather did a good job of laying out you know 10 plus communities in Ohio and how they were how they have addressed this issue. I thought planning commission had some great discussion but ultimately we we have the authority to regulate uses within our city. I think this is a very um appropriate um uh instance of us doing that. Uh, but I I do hear y'all and I and and I could certainly support the striking the hour restriction that appears in 150.69D.

I would also agree with that. So, is that a motion in a second? Sure. I move to strike um Yeah, I'm sorry. That was probably easier. Um I move to strike uh 150.69D. Second. Okay. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? Okay. Jody Alen. Uh, yes. Musgrave. Yes. Odicio. Yes. Fipps. Yes. Dennis. Yes. Harold. Yes.

Okay. So, section 150.69 item D is stricken. Anything else? Going once. Does Greg have anything? No.

All right. So, that means we need to re uh This needs to be changed to adopted as amended. Yes. Yes. Okay. So, I do I withdraw my original motion or do I just make a new motion? You could just make a new one. Okay. So, um Mr. President, I move to adopt ordinance uh 9308 as amended. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion after the discussion?

Okay, Jody, just Mr. President, just to reiterate uh however it is that I vote, I'll keep everyone in suspense. Uh is no reflection on uh what I think about vaping. In other words, Bill really likes vaping. Jody Musgrave. Yes. Odicio. Yes. Fipps. Yes. Dennis. No. Harold. No. Holla. Yes. All right. So, ordinance 9308 is adopted as amended. Mr. President,

Mr. Harold, and I fully expect that Greg has some comment on this, but I move to excuse Greg from tonight's meeting. Second. Okay. All in favor say I. I oppose. Same sign. Is there any other business to come before council this evening? Uh Mr. President. Yep. Yeah. Um the

uh committee that it is so updating our subdivision regulations has been a goal of uh city council and I believe the administration for some time now. Uh that committee did have its first meeting recently uh to get an overview of what that process is going to look like over the next uh year or so. The the work is going to be fairly substantial as you can probably imagine. uh as a member of that committee, I wanted to put a plug in and encourage everybody if you've got feedback or ideas about that process, now would be the time to provide uh feedback and uh help shape the uh the regulations that hopefully are ultimately adopted.

Okay. Any other business hearing? None. Do I have a motion to Oh, you got something? You got something? No, I was going to make a motion to adjurnn. All right. Second. All in favor say I. I. I. Oppos. Same sign. We are adjourned. Thank you very much.