Board Of Adjustment - Regular Meeting

And the time is now 2:01. I'd like to call this uh meeting on Thursday, January 29th, 2026, Bojer City, Bojer Parish Board of Adjusters meeting to order. Um let's uh stand and we'll do the invocation. Please stand and bow your head. Thank you, dear Lord, for this great day. Thanks for this great country, state, city, and parish that we live in. Thanks so much for all the government workers and first responders and utility workers that helped us through this recent time. Please continue to give us the knowledge and wisdom to make proper decisions. In your son's name we pray. Amen.

Amen. And keep standing, please. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Welcome to the board of adjustments meeting which falls under the metropolitan planning commission for Bojer City and Bojer Parish. The board is appointed by the Boer city council and Bojer police jury. serves voluntarily and without compensation. Um, roll call, please. Charles Davis, absent. Megan Davis, absent. Susette Haden, here.

Carrie Landry, here. Michael Virture, here. Tim Willahan, here. We have a quorum. Oh, great. Thank you.

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Good. Okay. Thank you so much. Um let's uh I need to get an approval for the uh agenda as written. Request a motion to approve the agenda as submitted in the motion. Motion to approve agenda. Second. Motion by Haden, second by Landry. Uh Haden voicemail. Voice. Just say I. Okay. All in favor say I. I. Any oppose? Motion carries.

Thank you. So the first uh component will be uh PBOA uh 0000219 2025 application of David Allen requesting a special exception use to retain the use of an uh existing 30 by 36 modular home on the track of land uh being 3.82 acres uh located at 215 Winfield Boer Parish, Louisiana Police Jury District 4. Okay. And can any the applicant stand forward and briefly, you know, I think you have to you have still the information to fill out or sign their name.

Just sign your name up there and then uh present the case. Thank you. Yes, we have a modular home on my property that u belongs to my parents who have now deceased. Um, we'd like to keep it there so that um, I also have a brother-in-law who needs a place to stay that we like to bring him up for him from Mississippi and let him move in to it. But it has two property or two on the property itself. There's two houses, that house and our house. Okay.

Any comments or questions from the board? I understand you have plans to subdivide this piece of property into two different lots. Is that correct? If we are allowed to keep it. Yes. And you understand that according to I guess the the parish orders, it has to be within one acre lot, at least a minimum 1acre lot per per. I did not know that until just now, but I will do it. Make sure. Men, the property right now, is there two different sewer systems? One for the Any other questions?

How long have you been? Um, October of this past year. October 25th. October 31st. Uh, 25. Sorry. And the property is in your name? Yes. And Mr. Allen, what's the intent? When do you decide? When do you think you might actually subdivide? As soon as we are allowed to. If we're going to keep the house, we're going to go with whatever we need to do next to get it subdivided.

Are you asking for a another special exception for a caretaker. Is that what you're saying? Or are you intend to What is your your real are you want to give an answer for a caretaker cottage or just to subdivide? I'd rather subdivide it and have my um brother-in-law live there. So, are you asking us for time? Is that what you're asking? What was that again? Are you asking us for a time limit to do this?

I don't understand this. Um well I was my understanding was we had to um remove one of the houses once my parents passed away. Um I'd rather not do that right now and have my um brother-in-law stand stay there. So we were told that subdivide would be the best way to do it. So we we'd like to subdivide and have him move in there as soon as we're allowed to. And this is a modular home, correct? Yes. Okay. Mr. Allen, it's my understanding to get it subdivided, you need the board of adjustments to allow for this this variance. Correct. Yes, sir.

Okay. Thank you. Any questions from the audience, from the public? Okay. Any additional comments or questions? Yeah, I'm sorry. I I'm still not clear. So, you're going to ask for a a uh brother-in-law who is a veteran. Yes. He's a a disabled veteran. Yes. Okay. To come stay in the home. Yes.

And this is going to be for a long-term I mean, I I guess I don't understand why you wouldn't come ask for another special exception as a caregiver pro provider versus subdividing your law up, I guess, is what I'm I'm struggling with. We just thought it would be easier subvising and not have to come back every three years to keep asking for permission and and everything like that. That's all. Just thought it would be easier.

Any further questions or comments? One comment I have. You really don't have a caretaker situation right now at this time we speak. really is this is a null and void in my mind that we could do this legally. Uh it's not an no one is ready to move in. You you haven't been you know uh why are we doing this? It's my understanding and maybe I need some clarity as well. It's my understanding that he's not asking for caregiver exception.

Correct. He's asking for an exception so that he can go before he can move forward with subdividing and before he can actually do that he has to get approval from us. Is that my is my understanding correct or am I Yes, you're correct. So um the code sorry you're good.

It's too loud. Um the code uh allows for him to have this hearing. There is a special exception used for the son in the hisad and he's in RLD residential low density. So that special use will allow him to give this modular home as long he subdivide the land because the code required for each lot each property to be in each lot. So moving forward from this the approval of this board he will be able to go ahead with the MPC and subdivide the land. So again just to be absolutely clear he is not asking for a caregiver exception.

That's correct. He's not requesting a caregiver. is requesting the special exception use retain the modular home and and this will have an a time limit also won't it? This is a conditional use and all conditional use have one year. So after if there's approval today they have one year to bring it to compliance in compliance will be subdivide the land and get approval by the parish engineer get approval by the board for the parish board and then uh record the the plot in the clerical courts. Okay. Okay. And if that doesn't happen, if he doesn't get that done in the year,

the the the approval if if it gets approval in this one, it will expire. So, okay. He will have to start all over again and come back again again in front of this board. Okay. Thank you. Maybe ask a question that might Please please. So, Karolina, there is a distinction in the unified development code between a modular home being allowed as a special exception use RLD. That's right. And a manufactured home. Yes. The only way you could have a manufactured home in an RLD would be in a caretaker situation. Right. Yes. That's that's right.

Okay. And and that Okay, that's perfect. Good. Thank you. Thank you. Does that make Okay. Okay. If um there's no any further any comments, can I get a motion? I move uh for PBOA 000000219 2025 uh special exception used to retain an existing 30 by 36 modular home. I move to to accept that exception.

Okay. Can I get a second on that? I second. Okay. I sent it for voting. Okay. So, all righty. So after the motion and second, call for voting, please. Motion by Landre, second by Hadden. All in favor say I. Any oppose? Motion carries. Okay. Okay, that it carried. And you understand that? Okay. Okay, that year is going to go fast. Yes, sir. Okay. God bless you. Thank you so much.

Thank you, sir. Okay. Okay. Second item is PBOA 0000218 2025 the application of Cynthia Gelenic. Okay. If I said it wrong, you throw something. Don't throw something. Just tell me. uh requesting a special exemption use to retain the use of an existing 24x60 manufactured home on attractive land um being approximately 8.79 acres more or less located at 314 Rolling Meadow Lane, Boer Parish, Louisiana, located at the dead end of Rolling Meadow Lane, Police Jury District 12. So, if you can stand or and sign your name and and plead your

I think I need to have administrative matter first. Yeah, Mr. Chairman. Yes. Um I'm going to need to recuse myself from this because Melik is a client of mine. Okay. So, I'm not going to be able to to vote on this. Okay. So,

yes. Um so, coming to the circumstance that Mr. Land is recusing himself. Uh we don't have a quorum to make a vote in this case. So we will have to move this um case to the next available public hearing and that will be on February 26 at 2 p.m. It will be on a Thursday at the same location.

With that with that understanding, we understand that people have come to to to present their their case one way or another. So, I think it would if if you guys want to since you're here, you can go ahead and give it. It's gonna have again the three minute limit. Um, but we can present it. It'll be on over here on this and it and then just have it come back before the board on the next meeting in February for us to be able to vote on it with a quorum. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's okay. Good. Thank you.

Okay. So, um, we when did we apply for our caregiver? So, a few years ago, I think it was in 2020, we applied for a care caregiver. Do I need to adjust it? Perfect. Is this better? Yes.

Okay. Um, so we applied for a caregiver permit. Um, and we got approval for that. The caregiver permit, we renewed it. I guess it was like two and a half years ago, and so it expired. um September of 2024. Um by the time it No, no, no. We had just approved it in September of 2024. Um the lady that we were caring for passed away in January of that following year. Um and so I reached out to the NPC and asked them like, "What do I need to do to make sure like we can keep our home and we're in compliance?" Um, Carlaua told me that as long as the the permit was still good until it expired. And so it expired this last fall. And I think I have my dates a little wrong. She told me we were going to have to subdivide because there are already three homes on the property. And so I started the subdivision process with Coil Engineering. Um, and he ran into issues because we have a manufactured home. And so we're here trying to get approval to keep our manufactured home that will be temporary until my husband and I can get to a point to be able to build a traditional home. Um even if we move the manufactured home, we were still going to have to subdivide because the property already has two houses on it and the manufactured home makes it three. And so we're here asking to have permission to keep our manufactured home um on the property and Coil Engineering is doing their own application for the subdivision process.

Okay. Any questions for Is anyone living in the manufacturing home now? Yes, sir. So my my family, my parents, they live in the like primary home of the property. My sister lives My sister and her children live in the other home and then my husband and our daughter and I live in the manufactured home. And you are the property owner? Yes, sir. Any other questions?

So, you guys were in one of the other sightuilt homes prior to that? Um, so I was living at my we got the manufactured home when my husband and I got married back in we got engaged in 2020 and we got the manufactured home um right before we got married in 2021. And we got that because while we were getting married and and doing all that fun stuff, our my grandmother and my aunt, their health started to decline and we were their primary caregivers and we didn't want to leave. We didn't want to leave them. Um [clears throat] so that's why we got the manufactured home. So instead of like going out and buying a house when we got married, cuz we didn't live together before we got married. Um, we got the manufactured home to live together once we were married and then also be able to take my grandmother and my aunt to their appointments. And they were the original property owners.

Okay. So, your your mom and dad is in one home. Yes, ma'am. And who's in the other one? My sister and her children. Yes, ma'am. Okay. And you guys were in We were living in the manufactured home in the double wide. And then you were living in that as your grandmother and your aunt. Yes, ma'am. Became unable to care for themselves. So you all were living in the the manufactured home. Dad,

just me and my husband. So before my aunt, my grandmother passed, they lived in the primary residence. So once they passed, my sister moved back onto the property and lived in one of the houses. And it gets a little confusing. I'll try to explain it the best I can. Um, but before my grandmother and my aunt passed, they were living in the home my parents are living in now.

Guess I have to ask the question. What hardship would it cause you if we told you you had to remove this mobile home? Um, well, it would displace my husband and our 15-month old child. And I've already started the process with the subdivision process with coil. Um, cuz that's what we were told we needed to do. Did they give you an estimate how long this would take?

Um, no sir. I know that Coyle was at the um meeting two weeks ago and so I think there were a few questions that arose from that and he's supposed to be coming back in like two weeks. But all we're trying to do is just kind of keep things in order and not violate any type of, you know, we don't want to be in violation. We want to stay in good standing. Um, I didn't really want to subdivide, but we're not really in a place to just get rid of our home either. Like I said, we do have a 15-month-old. Um, my husband works out of town and I'm also I'm back in school, so any other questions?

Thank you. And then can we get some comments from the state your name and sign in?

And names at at this point I think they setting a timer for three minutes just so it doesn't I know.

Uh name's Buddy Lucky. I live directly behind the mobile home. When I look out my back door I see the mobile home. I developed Lucky Estates uh along with Linda and Donald Lee. They helped me make the restrictions. That's why they bought eight acres because they said they did not want mobile homes around them in any way. I have nothing against mobile homes. I lived in mobile homes before. I love mobile homes. But that subdivision was built not for mobile homes. Um I came home from out of town one day and a mobile home was sitting there and I went crazy. I said, "What is going on here?" All my neighbors were calling me. All the adjoining property owners are calling me. I called the police jury. They said, "Whoa, buddy, don't worry about it. I give you my word. The day the lady the last there was two ladies. The last one passes away that mobile home is gone. They had a special permit only for care caretaking. I'm sure she the CNA because they were they were disability. They were on wheelchair oxygen and and walkers. So I'm sure this lady the CNA that did the the uh the care form. I used to own rehab hospitals. I know how you can hurt or kill somebody if you're not a CNA work with that acute care patient. Um when we got assured that they would be gone the day the last one died, they would give them a time limit to get the mobile home out of there. We we shut it down. We didn't argue anymore because we're going on the police chief's word. I'll develop three subdivisions within two miles of that area, two or three hundred homes. And I know what the rules are. You can't have three homes on a on a lot. You two homes, you got to have a a mini plat. And they are strict about it. I had seven acres right up the road and I was going to put two mobile homes on it. They shut me down cuz one guy came and complained. Never got to do it. You can't put more than two homes on a mobile home. This home is about 40 yard from the house. Well, they got another home 20 yard from the house with the people been living there forever. Why don't they do give the care? Why don't they go to them? Th This was strictly a

deal. And I talked to Linda Davis and me and Linda were good friends. She died first. They taught me in high school. I built the house. I sold them a land. I did them in a right one fed animals for many years. The reason they did this mobile home was get a farm caretaker that could feed the animals because they couldn't do it. Their horses were their whole life. They want to move a family in there that could oversee the animals, feed them, take care of them, fix the fence. That's not what this permit is for. This permit is for a sitter with people to take care of them. And and you you know there the rule on the three homes that was one thing and I caught when I talked to the police chief I said that is a special rule. We gave them a special permit strictly for healthc care. Y'all know more about than I do. I don't make the rules. Y'all make the rules but you need to live by the rules if you're going to make them. You know and it says when the last woman dies they need to go the and I might I know this woman over on the end. They're friend she's a friend of mine. I don't know any of these people. I'm just telling you they call me up and said my house on fire. I'm going to go put it out for them. But it's not against them. It's just I got a $400,000 house and my backyard's a mobile home now. And none of y'all want that. I promise you. No, not nobody on this board want to want a double wide mobile home behind the house. And another thing, why would they go out there and spend

That's three minutes. That's the time. That's it. That's You did good. Whoa. Okay. I'm sorry. That's all right. It's just to limit it so it doesn't go on for a long because a lot of other folks. All right. And I I've got some I represent people on Lucky Lane and the homeowner. They're all stranded and doing work. If if anybody has any questions, we we'll ask you, but it again we're going to have it again at the end of February. We're going to do this again. But you if you can, you can come and present some more. But at this time, we understand. But you'll do it again if you don't vote it down today. Well, we can't vote it down because he had to you know, we've had a member. I'll bring more people. I can say everybody had after the after the ice storm, nobody could show up. Yes. It would be hard. Yeah. Okay.

So, I got elected. All right. Thanks so much. Thank you all. God bless you. God bless you. Thank you. Anybody else from the Going to make sure nobody else does. Good. Okay. Perfect.

So, I do understand his concerns. Um, when we got the permit, it it was a special exception caregiver permit. As soon as, and I've got it I've got it written down right here. Um, let's see. We um we renewed the last caregiver permit September of 2023. Donley's health completely declined and she passed away in November or I'm sorry, in January of 2024. I immediately, maybe not immediately, but within the month of her passing, I called the NPC and I spoke with Carlaua and I said, "Hey, what do I need to do?" Because I was in panic about it. I mean, this this is our home. And she said, "Well, you just renewed the permit, so you're not in violation until it expires. So, you have until whatever you know it expires." And I said, "Okay, perfect." At the time, I didn't I wasn't aware of it, but I was pregnant. So, I got all of the estate stuff for our property lined up and I finished getting the two ladies affairs in order at that point. I I had my baby in September. I had all that done. We started this process um at the beginning of the year. We came to a few meetings. We spoke with Carlaua. There was no way for us to get away from being from having to subdivide. So I I started that process and now we're here. We're not asking to have the double white there forever. Our end goal is to build a home. We're not there financially. Since we got married, it's just been a lot of a lot of things like their health declined. Um my family is on the property taking care of the animals that was left by them. So I understand people are upset about the double wide but it's not we have no intention of it staying

there forever. Our goal is 5 to 10 years we would like to have start the process of building our home. And all we I we are just trying to stay in compliance. That's it. Okay. Can can I ask where do you intend to build where the double wide is? So right behind the house that's in front of it. You like 20 yards or something? and he said in front of where you're at right now. Yes, ma'am. It's actually 95 yards. 95 yards. Okay. Please come.

So, the home My name is James Schwank. I'm her husband. The home that we are directly behind is 95 yards. The other home is 126 yards from the main home. They're they're not 20 foot apart. They're there's a good distance. Can you sign in, sir, please? I am signed in. you. All right. Great. Okay. Thank you so much. So, again, we're gonna have to do this again next next month and and they'll inform you of everything that needs to be done by then. Okay. So, is there any way for us to go back? Yes.

I'm sorry. Yeah. Is there any way for us to know like if there's going to be enough board members because this is our second time getting it rescheduled? And I mean I'm not necessarily in a hurry to know, but it is something that's weighing on us a lot. And so I was, you know, I even called earlier this morning and I was like, "Hey, is it still happening because of the weather and all that?" So, I always call the morning of the meeting and I've been nice and sending emails out throughout the the month and but the morning of I call to confirm the board members, but I was unaware that Mr. Landry was going to abstain from voting. Gotcha. So, I will like make sure that there's enough board members next time. Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right. Thank you so much.

Okay. Well, we only have six total. So if two of them extend, that means everybody would have to show next time in order to have a quorum. We have to have at least four. And Cynthia, I'm I'm gonna [snorts] I'm going to fall in the sword and apologize. I didn't know that we didn't have enough. I should have told her when she called that that I knew you and you were a client and she was on. So that's I'll take the blame for that. I apologize. Thank you so much. There's no need. We don't vote. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, sir. State your name and sign that that State your name and sign that paper for me. Okay.

Hi, my name is Kendall Doctor. This August marks 25th year that we've been what I consider their closest neighbor proximity-wise. Um, I've watched these two girls grow up. We've been the original horse farm owners. Uh we were friends with uh they were members of the church I pastor, Barksdale Community Church. And it's been a little distressing to me sitting back watching trying to help. But uh I heard from one of the neighbors that um there's a rumor that they're trying to start a a trailer park in the back part of that pasture. And I happen to know because my wife and I have traveled to nine states last year looking at RV parks and mobile home parks, the criteria that the UDC would never allow unless there's 10 acres and you you know what I'm talking about. So the rumors that are going around the neighborhood are being prompted by someone. I I took three pictures on my phone before we came over here. One from my hot tub, one from the street, one from my gazebo. I can't see anything on that farm because of the foliage. I didn't even know that was Buddy Lucky. I've lived there 25 years. his his granddaughter lived across the street from us, but I I couldn't have recognized him, but he could and and I don't hear well, so I didn't hear what he said. But if he raised an objection, it's because he's going down Lucky Lane before he gets to his gated 200 acres. And that's the only place that I can think through the horse pasture that you would be able to see the farm. So

I'm I'm coming on on behalf of them. For everybody that has said made a comment in the past, I believe I'm the closest neighbor and I am not offended by that. I can't even see this double wide from all I see is the same roof line I've been looking at for 25 years. Although this morning had snow on it. So I I I hope you take that into consideration because I didn't know there was going to be anybody in the subdivision that would stand up and object. So I heard that somebody did. So I want my wife and I Carrie she teaches a Bojai. We wanted to come here and stand and and and give you guys a different perspective.

Thank you so much. Thank you for letting me Huh? I need to sign it. Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. God bless. Thanks.

And I'm Carrie Doctor. I'm his wife and I've lived across watched these two girls grow up too. We've been in the house 25 years like he said. Um and I teach business at Bojer High School. So that doesn't make me an expert on anything but I do know a little bit about contracts. Now, when Buddy Lucky sold Donnie and Linda that property, he sold him that property free and clear. It was theirs. They own it. They may have made him a verbal promise that there would never be a trailer on that property or that when they died, it would be moved or whatever, but when Donnie and Linda died, Cindy inherited that property. So, any verbal agreement they had with her with I'm sorry, any verbal agreement they had with Buddy Lucky does not apply to Cindy. All right. She does not have a verbal agreement with Buddy Lucky at all. That property now is hers free and clear. All right. So, she doesn't owe Buddy Lucky anything. Now, if he want if he wants to think that their house is an eyesore, that's on him. But his opinion doesn't matter. All right. There is no more uh home what do they call homeowners uh what do you call it when the neighborhood has a homeowners association that dissolved a long time ago because it outlived its I think uh you guys remember what the date was on the homeowners association.

Well, it expired right after we moved in there because it it only existed like five more years after we moved in and then that that dissolved. So, nobody owes anybody anything around that neighborhood. All right. And one of the other neighbors who complained about the the looks of a mobile home being in the in the neighborhood is a man who lives in a house a few houses down from us whose home uh flooded in 2016 when the Red River flooded and has yet to repair it. There's animals and all kinds of growth growing in that home and it's in disrepair. It's been condemned. So if he wants to talk about eyes, he needs to look at his own property first. There is absolutely nothing wrong. They live in a beautiful home and the property is kept up immaculately. So I just want to give kudos to them for the way they keep up their property.

Thank you, sir. In 2004 is when it ended. Okay. The homeowners association expired in 2004. Did you make sure to put your name on there? Oh, I'm sorry. Thank you so much.

If there's no one else, would you like Yeah. Hi, how are you doing? Um, my name is Alyssa. I state your last name also. Hernandez. Okay, good. Thank you.

Um, we just moved in what, maybe two years ago. Um, I live where Buddy's granddaughter used to live. Um, can I just say like I never noticed they had a trailer there or like a mobile home until recently when we started talking and we've been living there for two years. When we first started looking at the home, it wasn't noticeable. You can't see it. You drive up to the road, you can't see it. It's behind the house. So, I mean, to me, Buddy's just doing a little too much. I mean, that's just me. He's just doing too much. Um, but personally, Cindy and her family, they're great neighbors. I mean, I don't know Cindy too well to say that I know her. She's my best friend. No, I mean, but she is a good person and her family should get what they're asking for, you know, and Buddy I mean, even I've been through Buddy's lane, like where he lives, because my dog crossed the river and decided to be on his property. Um, yeah, I don't know how she survived, but she made it to that side and you can't see the mobile home from his street down where he lives. So where he says that it's an eyes sore. I mean we live deep into our home so you can't see it even being deep on my property. I mean I can see Buddy's property but I mean he can't see it himself. I've been on his property as well but we can't see anything for him to say that it's an eyes sore and other neighbors can see it. I mean I just hear the peacocks which are nice. But yeah that's it.

Thank you so much. If it's the eyes soreness from him being able to drive on Lucky Lane, I'll put up a fence. I am not opposed to putting up a fence so that he cannot see it. I just want to keep my home. I'm just trying to do everything right and just put this past us. Perfect. And then again, they're going to get with you at the time when we do this again in February. You guys need to come but anybody If you presented, you know, that's perfect. Unless you want, you can you can come, too. I'm sorry. Okay.

I I think if you if you've presented your situation here, that's fine. But you're more than welcome to to write something. That'd be good. Thank you so much. So, we can't vote on anything. So, can we just we'll move on to the next thing on the agenda. Okay. Approval of minutes. We have a few times to do the minutes. Um, approval of November 25th, 24th, 2025. Request a motion to approve uh minutes from November 24th, 2025 minutes as submitted. I I move to approve the November 24th minutes. Um, under duress. Under duress. Second. Second.

All in favor say I. I. All opposed. carries. Do we have Oh, there we go. Okay. Vote for it on your your screen. It's okay. Good. Got it. Yeah. Motion carries. Okay. The next one is the approval of um the november 24th, 2025 workshop meetings. Request a motion to approve. I move. Okay. Second. I'll second. Okay. All in favor? I and we can do it again.

There we go. They didn't send you're fine. Okay, good. Motion carries. Motion carries. And the next one is approval of the October 27th, 2025 workshop minutes. Uh can I get a motion to approve those? Uh, I move that we approve the October 27th workshop minutes. Second. Second. All in favor? I. Motion carries. Thank you so much. Old old and new business.

Um, we need to amend the 2026 BOA meeting dates and deadlines. Uh, we had to make some changes because we're here. Um, which is good. It's a nice change. Um, so can we uh and the motion? Everybody has that. Can we make a motion to approve those, please? I move we approve the mutation. Okay. Second. Okay. All in favor? I. Motion carries. Okay. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? I move that we adjourn. [snorts] I second. All in favor say I. I

done. Thank you so much. Meeting a journey.