Inland Wetlands & Watercourses Commission - Regular Meeting

All set. All set. Okay. So, I will call the meeting the Bloomfield Inland Wetlands and Water Course Commission meeting to order on Monday, September 15, 2025. It is 7:02 p.m. and in attendance we have uh Glenn and Steve Paul Adam Kevin Wilcox and recording secretary Rebecca old business. Was this tabled?

It was not tabled. It was uh continued though it was accepted at the last meeting. The commission may recall that there was some discussion about whether there was going to be a public hearing for this meeting. They gave a quick presentation and then okay uh was decided to have a regular hearing tonight. Okay. No public. Who's here for the applicant? Mr. Quirk and Mr. Fairclaw cloud promoted them to panelist.

How you doing that? Rebecca We have Brian here just waiting on Andrew. Do you have Brian? Yep. Was he promoted?

Yes, they both have been. Okay. Uh, couple housekeeping things before we get started. Uh, Alan, you you got you got to turn your microphone up a little. You're kind of hard to hear. [Music]

Is that better? Yes. Okay. Couple housekeeping things. Uh, Brian, on your conflict of interest, Um, you don't live at 61 East Dudleytown Road, do you? I mean, I feel like I do sometimes. Yeah. Can you turn your camera on, please? It should be on. I don't know what's going on. Okay. And And Matthew doesn't live there, too, right? Where where do you two live?

Um, he lives in Weathersfield and I live in Bolton. All right. The reason we have this conflict of interest form is so that we don't have a conflict or the commission members don't have conflicts with any of the applicants. If there's a lawsuit and it turns out that you live next door to one of the commissioners, it's a problem. And that's why we ask that these be filled out properly. Also, what what what is a conflict of interest form? I don't I'm not sure what you're talking about. It's one of the forms you filled out and signed. It's unsigned.

It You did sign it. Okay. Okay. And it says that you live at 61. I obviously didn't read it or see it. Okay. Also, for the attorneys, we need the complete list of the attorneys that are in that practice. The same with the engineers so that we know if we have in which practice uh the engineers. Okay. What form? What form are we talking about here? I'm I'm conflict conflict of interest form. Where did this come from? I'm I'm I don't have anything in front of me right now.

You signed it. It was a part of the application. Okay, that's my point I'm getting at. Are you calling it up? I'm trying to. I'm I literally just walked in the door to start my computer, so I only have so much in front of me right now. Mr. Chair, um I I just noticed u one of the attendees uh is is only set up for the audio and not a panelist. I don't know if that would help. What was that, Brian? It's all set.

Okay, cool. Thanks. There we go.

Do you have the application in front of you? Um, I don't I'm not finding it right now. I mean, it's a maze on my computer. So, all right. Well, we can table this until you get it done. Be my guest. I Whatever you want to do, I don't I could give two craps right now. So, if you want to table it, let's table it and let's end the meeting and be done with it. I mean, if we want to just go in semantics and just fill it out correctly a little bit later on, be my guest. You know, we get sued every once in a while, and this is one of the things that we got in trouble with years ago. Well, obviously you guys know we don't live next to any one of you.

Oh, you got to fill it out correctly. If you don't care to fill it out correctly, why are we giving you a wetlands permit? I don't know. You know, I don't know. It's correct. So, let's table it. Okay. So, the meeting's done. We're all set for the night. Yeah, you're good. Bye. All right. Cool. Thank you. That was a waste of time today. Yep, that was we wasted our time. Not well. I mean, it's sem it's semantics, right? I mean, we can't we can't do what we can't do other things in the in the time being.

It's not because we won't if we don't vote if we don't finish this application, it's not a problem. But if we finish this application tonight, we're not finishing it tonight. Why do you say that? Because I have a feeling we're not going to finish it tonight. We're gonna have things we need to discuss and get on the same page with. So, I'm guessing we're not going to finish it. But go away. Come back next month. Well, we need we need to discuss other things, though. No, we don't. You're done. Goodbye. All right. Have a nice evening.

Fill out the application correctly. All right. Let's move on. What do we got for number two?

I think we need a vote to table the application. All right. Is there a motion to table? I'll make the motion. Made by Paul, seconded. Adam seconded. Adam. All in favor? I I I opposed abstain. It's unanimous. All right. Where's the agenda? Notice of violation for 63 Lincoln Terrace.

Okay. Uh we need to promote Mr. Maharaj who was in the uh waiting room I believe. Uh ju just for the record for some reason I just got kicked out turned into an attendee and then I was put back in as a panelist. So I did not vote. So why don't we just put me as uh abstained in the last vote. Okay. Okay. So that that's that would be a five to zero to 501 on the scorec card. Okay. Thanks. I didn't hear what was going on so I I didn't vote.

Yeah, I got I got kicked out too, but I got kicked right out. My computer turned off. Oh, that was weird. I didn't hear what happened either, but I got the end. Okay. All right. Go ahead. Mr. Mor has been added. Okay. Uh we have Dwayne. Good evening. So, good evening.

Um you guys all may remember uh well, some of you may all remember the notice of violation uh ongoing notice of violation at 63 Lincoln Terrace. In April, the commission agreed to a two-year plan um to correct the uh correct the violation. Um the violation was the placement of fill and construction in the wetlands and in the flood plane without a permit. Um uh last week or two weeks ago maybe uh Mr. Mara called me and said we have moved all the material. Please come out and take a look. Uh, I did that and the material appears to been removed from the wetlands and the water course uh and the flood plane, I should say, as requested in the two-year plan, but obviously way ahead of the two-year plan. Um, so um I went out there today uh to take another look. The area had been uh top soiled, seated, and uh straw was placed on the on the grass or on the new grass. uh and it was being watered. Um and so for the uh my recommendation for here is that the material placed without a permit has been removed in substantial compliance with the two-year plan for removal and it is recommended that commission vote to lift the notice of violation.

So um that's all I really have to say about it. Um, I'm present presently pleasantly surprised. I think we are all pleasantly surprised. Yes. Good work. Good work. Good job. Yeah. Well done, Mr. Mirage. Yes. I think I think the right thing to do is to um, you know, to lift the notice end the notice of violation. Okay. All right. Somebody want to make any questions on this?

So just I I guess I'll ask a question and that is everything has been dealt with all the stabilizing measures have been put in place and Mr. Mirage is good to go. Doesn't have to talk to us ever again. I I mean for his sake for his sake not for ours. Oh, yes. Um, well, that's it. I guess we're getting a tour. We're getting a tour. There you go. Live live video from the spot. That's great. I didn't even think of that. So, I'm I don't know if Mr. Mar wants to tell you what we're seeing is the the the hay on the slope. Yep.

So, it's hay on top of dirt and it's kind of brown. And if you look there, uh, you can see up up in the Yeah. In the background, you can see uh a little bit of a slope there where the fence was. And at the bottom of the slope, he's got sil fence, you know, right at the edge of the woods. So, it, you know, it appears that the material that was there, if you guys recall, there was a shed, there was some concrete, there was um some uh um you know, some uh sidewalks, there was some landscaping in there. So, I think he's done what commission asked him to do. Yeah. Excellent.

Good work. Yeah. Any other questions? Is there a motion to lift the notice of violation? So moved. I'll second. Seconded by Paul. All in fa any any discussion? More discuss. All in favor? I I opposed. Abstain. It's unanimous. Okay. Is that it, Peter? That's all for Mr. Marg.

Good work, Mr. Mark. Mr. Raj. Yeah. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. I will be sending you something in the mail for uh you know officially lifting the notice of violation. Okay. As I said to Peter this morning when he showed up when we lost him. What' you do to What did he say to you? We'll never know what he said. It was such a nice nice conclusion to this chapter. I feel Did he get put into the to the waiting room? The the what are we calling it now?

He's still in as an attendee. My computer froze, so I don't know what happened. Would you like me to promote him back? Oh, yes. We're definitely having some technical issues tonight. I apologize. It's not your fault. I had it, too. Okay. All right. I'll set. Send Bring him back if you can. Here we go. We We lost you there for a while. Why you guys kicked me out?

We did not want to. So I mean how would I say almost a year ago I remember the first time coming in this meeting and as I always said to Peter I wish you guys had Peter seen the backyard before it got to what is recommended now when I dumped it I had no clue about wetlands inlands uplands any lands I had no clue so for me as an islander I was just utilizing my space that is on my property.

Um, unfortunately whatever happened happened. In the beginning it was difficult for me to financially do this. Miraculously I could go to my 403b and this backyard cost me more than $28,000. Not that it's anyone's responsibility, but I just want to put that out there that I don't need problem. So, I find solutions. I remember when, you know, I said this took me 9 years to put the dirt here and it's going to take me some time to remove it. The contractor that I found, he was leniency enough, but unfortunately, my entire driveway is ruined

because I had trucks for three days constantly from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. in and out of this place. But I just want to tell you guys that on on behalf of me and my family, what I did, I had no clue that it was a violation. And that's why I made sure I fixed it because I don't need trouble. I don't need problems. Yeah. You know, and especially problems 20 years down the road where you go to sell the property or your kids go to sell the property and they say, "Hey, what's this?" 10 times. As I said to you before, and I'm going to say it again, this property will never be sold. Right?

My heart and my soul, blood, sweat, and tears is in this house and in this property. I would rather my kids kids live out this property. Yeah. Okay. That's why I put so much work into it. And I just want to let you guys know, you know, my apologies for violating whatever I violate. And Peter nor anybody in the town ain't got to worry about the Mirage family violating anything else again cuz I'm going make sure I'm going go to the town and I'm going get necessary information before I put a nail in the wall. Okay. All right. All right. Be well.

All right. Thank you guys very much. Okay, next uh new business. Yeah, we need to promote Mr. Lawson.

Are you promoting? I'm not a I'm not a co-host this time. All set. Hi. Thank you, Rebecca. Hey, what's the story with this one? Peter. Huh? How are you, Mr. Lawson? Good. How are you doing?

Good. Um, okay. So, uh, this was one that was discussed with the commission the last meeting. Um, and it was decided that they should come to this meeting for, uh, uh, review by the commission. Um, this is a uh storm water basin that's in the it's in the Sigma condos um project uh that's off of Maple Avenue. Uh Maple Yeah, Maple Avenue. And um they're proposing to to remove vegetation um uh do some grading, remove sediments, and create some lowflow channels. um to the uh inside this basin. Um in a few minutes here I'm going to share my screen unless Mike you you want to share. Um but the uh uh the project is uh um uh it's as I say in my staff report um it's more than just regular maintenance. They want to try to do some improvements. This area has been um uh known for wet basements and they the the condo association over there uh 10 years ago did a project to help out um the uh flooding and I heard from one of the neighbors I'm not sure which uh unit she was in but one of the neighbors on that culdeac said that the whatever the improvements that were done 10 years ago helped her wet basement. She no longer has a wet basement. So that was good. But, um, Mr. Lawson's application is for more, uh, kind of more of the same. Uh, they're going to clean out, uh, you know, and and and maintain this storm

water basin. Um, now I have to, uh, I'm going to try to share a screen here, but I I know that I have to bring it up first before I can share it. So, um you guys would have gotten uh this plan in the in the package and I I apologize again.

Um it takes me a little bit to get through the weeds here. Uh let's see. Um, okay. What happened to my zoom? Oh, I hope I didn't lose Okay, I'm I'm getting there slowly. And it is where Okay. Yeah. Give me another second here to get this bigger get this off. Okay. I'll be able to zoom in too. Um so it's this is uh 22 and 24 um Colonial Drive North. These are detached single family condominiums. Um this is the stormwater basin behind them and and it shows some shows the regrading.

Can you Oh, can you guys all see this? Yep. Yeah. Okay. Um and the um there's a uh a couple of uh a couple of key features here. There's two one here and one here. Storm drainage uh pipes from the street going into the pond.

Um this is uh roof roof drains uh and and uh footing drains um that actually bypass the pond. They don't go in. Um, and over here is an outlet structure and the pipe that takes the water out of the pond and toward over here towards Tumble Down Brook. Um the spillway in this thing is a broad concrete pad with rip wrap on both sides. And the proposal is to um the proposal is to e excavate the found uh excavate the uh um the bottom and create these swailes. That's too close. Let me back up. Uh there is a I believe as I recall from the cut and fills there's there's material that needs to come out. There's excess material. So they're going to be hauling it out and taking it away. They're not proposing to use it on site. Um and so I think and I'm sorry I'm going to zoom in again. The deepest cut over here is is uh um you know here's a 119 six contour or spot grade. They want to take it to 11825. So it's you know a foot and a half something like that. I'm not sure if that's the deepest cut. It might be Yeah. Here's here's a deeper one. There's a 120 contour. Now they want to make this 116.5. So they're they're also proposing based on these contours to make the the flow going into the pond uh cleaner uh

in as far as flow. This will also effectively create uh a better place for uh a better easier flow for the water through. Um I'm not sure what's on the second page. Let's go look. details. Oh, these are details. Yeah.

So, um what's it say here? Uh oh, on our official map, the whole the whole pond is considered a wetland or or a water course. And so they're proposing to do some work essentially in in the wetlands. um approximately uh 23 acres. So about a quarter of an acre. 9900 square ft is what's on the application. And uh like I said, we're going to take out the vegetation. Um there's a lot of invasives in here, including uh a little patch of um fragmitees over here,

which we talked about when we met in the field about needing to, you know, excavate those separately because the the roots are are uh uh ryomeic, if that's the right word. They're they are ryomes in this case. And and you just can't scrape off the top. you got to dig out some some se, you know, some section. Um, but there's a lot of uh um there's a lot of ragweed um or golden rod and and and other invasives in here. So the plan is to take it out and regra take out the existing vegetation, scrape the top soil, put it over here and regrade and then put the top soil back and and uh reestablish the lawn or reestablish the vegetation, I should say. Um there are some areas here where I think Oh, I'm sorry. There's also um one spruce tree right there. And there are two. There's one here and one here. I guess maybe three. Um these are uh aspen trees. Fairly goodiz aspen trees. And this is a good size um uh pine or or spruce tree. Uh these symbols are are deceiving because the canopy of this tree overlaps the pond. M.

So, it's a little circle here, but it's a goodiz tree. You know, they're hanging in there. So,

um I'm making some recommendations here for conditions of approval, including uh to do some re planting of trees maybe uh on the bank or on this side here to uh to increase the vegetated buffer coverage. um and uh to um have the uh let's see the only other restriction I think on the project other than my standard comments um is to uh not to do any work inside the pond or the wetlands uh um more than five days in in a row and not within three days of a rain or no event of one inch or more. Um the commission may have um may have noticed that I didn't ask for a bond on this one. And the reason for that is I believe the association is anxious to get this work done and they want to do it this season. Um Mike, is that still the the plan?

Yes, sir. Okay. It'd be nice to get grass growing this season, you know, or the bottom. It's not It's not too late. It's still September. Yeah. Y So, um that's uh you know, that's the reason why I didn't I didn't request a bond. This is going to be a fairly short project. I believe uh three weeks maybe within two weeks it'd be under two weeks, I believe. Okay. Under two weeks. So, pretty quick. Provided mother nature agrees with us. You know what I mean? Right. Right now, the pond is very dry. Very dry.

All like all ponds are. I I actually went in there to try to dig some soil samples and I couldn't get through the top, I don't know, inch and a half before I ran into gravel or something really hard. I couldn't dig in it with a with a hand auger. I was surprised. I usually can dig through most stuff, but I think you're going to find a layer of stone, you know, crush stone, not not bedrock, crush stone down there, because that's kind of what I was pulling up. Anyway, um our 13 recommended conditions of approval. Um the uh uh you know, the project is going to be a shortterm project uh short time frame project. So, I think again I'm recommending that the commission consider approving this application with the uh 13 conditions.

Um Mr. Lawson, do you want to say anything? Um I mean it's it's to improve the quality of the basin. Uh they're taking out the fragmitees. We're going to mine, you know, take that stuff out, create that swale which will collect sediment in the future, so it'll be a less impactive cleanout and maintenance procedure. Um next time. Yeah, the next time, you know, it's inevitable over time between leaves and, you know, road sediment, whatever. Um, that gets deposited in there. So, they created two small plunge pools at each outlet into the pond or inlet into the pond, if you will. Um, one here and one here.

Yeah. Yep. So, I mean, all those things that Godfrey did there make sense. and you know to minimize the impact next time anyway. Uh you're always going to have uh somebody coming back to do maintenance on the pond. Sure. Okay. Thank you.

Um Peter, that that um area was man-made to begin with, right? Yes, this is a man-made pond. Okay. Um, and uh let's see. Let me let me uh well, just to the north west uh northeast here of this uh of this plan that we have um is uh Tumble Down Brook, which runs through the Sigma Golf Course. Mhm.

Um, and if you've ever played the Sigma Golf Course, there's I don't know what hole it is. It's probably the fourth third or fourth hole. There's a big pond right next to the right next to the green. And this is within, you know, 300 or 400 yards of that. So, to give you an idea where it is in, you know, in in response, we're we're 600 feet or more from uh from Maple Avenue here, east of Maple Avenue. I'm sorry. Did that did that answer your question? I'm not sure it did. Yeah.

Okay. All right. Um, do we have to ask the applicant if he accepts the 13 conditions? Yes, we should probably. All right. Um, Mr. Lawson, did you have a chance to to read through the the report and condition of approval? Yes, sir. Okay. So, we're ask you to make a statement that you would understand or in agreement with the conditions.

I understand them. I read them. Um, the only thing any additional plantings that would be something we would discuss with our customer, honestly, uh, Gillette Ridge Association. So, I don't know that there's any problem with that. But, just to put that out there, you know, we didn't Oh, that's Yeah. Okay. That's a good point. It's just a I just want to, you know, it is what it is. is they want to do the uh maintenance to improve the quality of the basin, the filtering of it, everything, the sediment that's already, you know, contained in it. And then uh hopefully create a better situation with basement um flooding, which I don't think is it's been better, but I think they're still getting some wet basements here and there. And so, okay,

for what it's worth, you Thank you. We have any other questions? [Music] Any other questions from the commission?

No, the one you asked was mine. So, it was man-made to begin with. You have a question, Steve? I I was just saying you asked the question I had. It was It was man-made to begin with. Okay. So, somebody want to make a motion.

Don't all yell at once. Uh I will I will make a motion, Mr. chair uh to uh approve the wetlands permit application for Colonial Drive North stormwater basin modifications MBL 1 0 00006 and uh that uh it is um conditioned on the 13 uh conditions cited in um our memo uh staff report.

Staff report. Thank you. Um I think that is sufficient detail for the motion. Is there a a map date on uh that's available? Uh there is a uh yes uh formerly lot 1054 map 127. No, no. I mean the the um engineers map. There it is. I'm sorry. We put the map date in. Go down a little bit, Peter. Yeah, it's in the it's in the beginning of the uh of the um

motion. Yeah. Plans prepared by Godfrey Hoden Hoffman Hodgej LLC. One inch equals 10 scale dated 21325. Okay. I'm sorry. All you guys are on top of the dates here. Okay. Is there a second? Second. Wait a minute. This site plan says dated uh 210 to 20 2025. Yeah, it should be 210. That's the date of the plan. I got 213 for some reason. Yeah. 210 is right. I'm okay with the correction. Okay.

Yep. Okay. Uh any more discussion? All in favor? I I opposed abstain. It's unanimous. Thank you. Peter, are you there? Yes. I received my package in the mail today by you. You did? I did. Yes. commission didn't get that literally was handed to me at my desk today. So faith in the postal service. Well, what the the tr uh I tried to get that that package out a week before the meeting went out the next day. It did come.

Everybody should have got it. Yeah. Today. Okay. Thanks. Have a good night. Yep. Any new applications, Peter? No, sir. Any wetlands agent permits received?

Yes, I received a permit application for residential addition at 65 Rescue Lane in the Upland Review area. Um, it's a relatively small uh addition with um uh no additional bedrooms. They're on septic out there, so that might have been an issue, but excuse me. Uh, any enforcement actions? No new enforcement actions. Yay. That's good. Status of ongoing projects. Any updates here?

Yeah. Um, we've got a we've got um um it's going to be almost exactly the same report as last last month now that I think about it. Um, I probably should have write I should probably should write these down, but I kind of just wing it. Um, everybody knows that the library is is almost complete. Uh, the Proer Library.

Oh, yeah. Did you ever check out the ramp? You know, I went over there and I saw that the ramp was brick and and I and I tried to get an answer to to the question about what they're going to do for for um uh ice, you know, ice removal. And um I I actually never got a real straight answer either from public works or from the library people. So, uh that's one I'm going to have to follow up. Yeah, it's an it's an easy fix is to attach gutters where the um where the brick ends. Gutters will go right under there and run the water down to the um towards the um parking lot and have some kind of

catch basin or something there. Something to catch it. Um well there on the parking lot side there are storm uh yeah storm water quality um basins there or swailes. That would be the place. Yeah.

Okay. Um the other question about the library that we had was whether there's um whether there's uh uh water available to irrigate the plants. Um, and I saw some guys over there putting in some new plants on the on the Mountain Avenue side of things. Uh, and they we're running a hose. Um, so I believe there are or is at least one place to get water outside of the building over there. Yeah, they had a water truck when I saw them, too. That's that.

Yeah, I you know, a big uh tank on the truck with water. Well, I did check the the plumbing plans and they actually show two uh spouts they call hose bibs. Yeah. Uh one in the one in the garage level underneath and one um out by Mountain Mountain. Yeah. So, I think the plants will get properly watered. Yeah. or not or well the the the the water's available there, right?

For proper watering. Um the other projects that are that are moving along is the uh self- storage facility over at 59 Douglas Street. Um they're starting to pour foundations over there. They're they're working uh quite uh quite well. Uh I get regular reports from from them per the wetlands permit. Um and um the uh the first field meeting happened last week for uh the senior housing uh on Blue Hills Avenue project. Um

they're calling it Arbella uh not Arabella but Arbella. And uh we had a meeting with the uh site contractor um and the new superintendent who's out there and we we looked at clearing limits and uh erosion control locations and made a few field modifications, but they're um they're getting ready to go. They have brush hoged the whole thing and um they're going to start with the um you know uh cleaning up of the site. They've got some some mass earth work to do. They've got to remove uh some concrete um bins that were placed that they're not going to use. And uh they're going to have to create a new driveway in from Maplewood Avenue. So most of the construction activity and all of the utilities are coming in from Maplewood Avenue. Um, so they're going to be able to, I think, work it well with, uh, construction coming in from Maplewood Avenue and residential um, or non-construction traffic coming in from Blue Hills Avenue. So, it'll probably work out probably work out pretty well. Um, I don't Let's see. uh permit was approved for a new house at at 226 Woodland Avenue and it uh has been in the footing stage for a couple of months, but I saw some activity there today when I went by. Um so that was good. Um, and uh, if the commission has a specific

project they'd like me to talk about, I will. I can't think of any off the top of my head right now that are Oh, I shouldn't say that because I I was trying to remember where I was today. And I was at Mr. Mirage's house, but I also went out to 100 Philly Street, which is a uh T-Mobile switching station now. Uh, and they're they're looking to get a CO and they're they're almost done. They sent us an ASU built, but it wasn't really an asbuilt, so have to get a new one for that. Um most of the most of the new um uh activity that I see in my position here at the town hall is for uh residential additions and also um a lot of people are doing uh uh HVAC work, new furnaces, new air conditioning, new you know um uh what do they call them? uh these they have these new mini splits and the geo geothermal stuff that is going in the ground. So there's a lot of that going on, but um there we're not getting many applications for wetlands permits in um and uh maybe that'll change coming up. you know, it's usually busy um uh at least for applications in the summertime so people can get their projects done before winter and then there's a then there's a lull. So that's kind of where I think we're at.

So Peter, can I ask a question? Yes, please do. All right. So the uh project on Watkins Road called Edith Lane. Yes. That area they have to cut through wetlands to reach uh still mountainous estates in order to cut into the uh sewer line. If I'm not mistaken, you are correct. Did they start that already? As far as I know, they have not. No,

because sometime last week, I can't tell you which day anymore, uh I could hear machinery cuz it's it's there's one property between me and where they're going to be doing that work. And I swear I could hear a machine going through slowly doing something. And then the next day I could hear trees being cut. Uh, okay. I I'll have to I'll have to go out and look. I wasn't aware of anything was going on back there.

And And I'm not sure. We might actually be able to see it from uh the culde-sac at the end of Over Brook Farm Road. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it cuts right through. I'll go take a look in the morning tomorrow. Yeah. Isn't that anc project? What's that? Is that an MDC project? No, it's a private private sewer. They need MDC, right? I mean, it's going to be an MDC sewer main, right? Yeah. It goes through Still Mountain, so it's private through Still Mountain. Yeah. Right. Right. Uh, one last thing. Still not.

Go ahead. Yeah, sorry. One last thing, and I I don't it bothers me to to point this out. U and I'm not saying this with prejudice. Have you noticed the work that was done at Mo more sawmill? No. What has been done at more side sawmill? They they apparently needed to clean up the front portion between their building and the road. And they had some heavy duty machinery that went through and cleaned out a large area to the right and in front. And I I you know I applaud the fact that they wanted to clean it up, but I think they may have crossed over into wetlands.

Okay. And I have nothing against them. I I have I I like them. I just wish that they had uh come to you first.

Yes. Um there's a possibility, and I'm just throwing this out as a possibility that that uh he's doing some some cleanup uh in response to a uh zoning enforcement action. Um I know that there's been some, you know, u tall grass uh complaints coming in and Alex has been dealing with them. Uh but I I will check that out too. Um either way, even if they're just doing some clearing. Uh would you was it right by the road just off? fairly close to the road, but also if you're look if you have if you're standing on the road looking at their building to the right hand side of the building, uh it appears to be a lot of wetland plants off to that right area and they cleared a fair area there too.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because if I know that the town has been doing some roadside mowing, but they It's definitely not that. Okay. No, you you you'll you'll see what I mean once you see it. Okay. I mean, it's bare earth. Yeah. All right. I'll take a look. Yeah. All right. Anything else on that, Peter? No. Let the record show Mr. Jones has joined us. Thank you. All right. Just just in time for us to go over the minutes and then say good night. I'm so sorry you all. I am I'm sick.

I fell asleep. I fell asleep and I'm so sorry. And no problem. All right. Thank you. Thank you for making the effort.

Mr. Chair, I have a followup on on the uh the Blue Hills apartment project. Um that there was mention about using the maplewood as the entrance. Wasn't that supposed to be like a not the main entrance? I I I'll put it that way that it was supposed to be further south. Uh and I know from the planning side there, you know, that was one of the biggest, you know, concerns that we had. So, I'm hoping that's a a temporary thing because the further we get to that intersection, which is like class D, it it's the worst in town, I believe. Um it's not good.

Right. So, the the uh the plans that were approved by planning and wetlands show um two entrances, one on Maplewood and one on um uh Blue Hills Avenue. um a actually a little further north Yeah.

than the present driveway into the old drive-in site, but the construction during the construction period, the contractor is going to try to use Maplewood Avenue as their main way in. They're still going to come in off of Blue Hills. There's no doubt about it. But the plans do show a construction entrance at both ends. So they during the construction period they are going to be coming in from mainly from Maplewood Avenue. The other thing is is that the the water and the sewer and I think the electricity too are all coming in from Maplewood Avenue. That's going to be the first thing that they

Right. But I mean when they're when the apartments are built in the actual residences that that was not going to be the primary if I remember correctly. That's right. It's not going to be the primary entrance. The Blue Hills Avenue will be. Okay. But during I'm I'm specifically talking about during the construction. The construction. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that was still the case. And I and I think they're they're looking at two years to complete or two and a half years. It's a lot of units. It's a lot of units. 142. Was quite a mix of units if I remember correctly. Yes. several buildings. Uh,

yep. A big clubhouse. Clubhouse. Yeah. Some uh multif family um apartment buildings and some um there's some detached I think as well, right? Uh not not fully detached. I think there's six um like duplex or townhouse townhouse. There might be four in each townhouse. I think they were if I remember correctly. Yeah.

So, yeah, that's that's going to be a big project. That's going to be a good one. Um, and they have uh they have um uh Butler Construction as the contractor, as a site work contractor. Uh, and they're a local firm, so they'll and they're responsive usually to my to my, you know, any any issues that I have. So, um, that's good. It's always better to work with a contractor and who's who's local rather than, you know, someone from New Jersey that bid the low the low bid. Anyway, okay.

Anything else? Thank you. All right. Uh, minutes. Minutes look good to me. I didn't find anything. Oh, Glenn, you weren't paying you weren't paying attention. Go. Rebecc Rebecca, do you have the copy that I sent to you? I do. Just give me a moment. Got it right here. Okay. Yeah. I I only have one little thing. Okay.

On page one under also present were uh the line under it, it says a quorum was established and then commissioner commissioner joined the meeting at 7:10. And then on page two, it says that commissioner Lester joined the meeting at 709. What was the problem on page one? Um, it has page one. Go ahead. On page one, it says that Commissioner Lester joined the meeting at 710. And then on page two, it says he joined at 7:09.

So, we're going to call it 710. What do you think? Yes. Will is a national treasure. We don't deserve Will Cox. deserve. He should be He should be kicked off the board. Does anybody else have any? Uh I had one minor one. I I think it was me who brought up the the deicing system um that was discussed in the planning um for the library bridge. I think on page is it six? Uh

yes, there was two of you that discussed it, but I can change. It doesn't I didn't realize uh I just remember discussing it, so um that's I can put both of you. It's fine. Okay. Oh, Adam, do you remember asking about the deicing on the bridge? Yeah, I was asking about it. we talked when originally we it was the topic of the uh environmentally safe deicer that we had talked about and how that's going to be enforced. Yep.

And I would like, you know, not necessarily for the record or put it in for the record. I don't care. Uh Rebecca, thank you very much for making what I say during the meeting actually sound coherent because when you wrote it down, it sounded much better than I remember presenting it. Okay. Thank you. Well, those are the only few edits. That's good. I move that we accept the minutes as amended. Second, seconded by Stephen. [Music] Uh, all in favor?

I stayain. It's unanimous. Okay. other business. Uh do I want I don't have have any any other any other uh important business, but there are some um um regulation amendments that I think we might want to consider again. Yeah, it's been it's been three years now.

I I just got a printed copy. You can't change it now. Well, they're available online on the Wetlands Commission's web page. None none of what I'm I'm recommending for changes would be would be um significant

in the big scheme of things. But um you know, as we go through and we learn hopefully with every new application, try to learn something. um the m the the regulations sometimes don't address that and I' I'd like to, you know, consider making uh you know, having some changes. Um and if we're going to have a slow, you know, slow fall and and winter, it would be the time. Now that you've said it, we're not gonna Okay. J I jinked us j on purpose. on purpose. Okay. So, u

All right. So, why don't you draft those up or if you want and we'll take a look at them. Okay. We're not going to set a time or a meeting or anything. Just to just to take a look. Sounds good. Uh any public comments? Are there any public? Yeah. From there's no public here. No. No. All right. Is there a motion to adjurnn? So moved. Made by Kevin, seconded by Paul. All in favor? I opposed. Stain. It's unanimous. Okay, Rebecca, can you turn off our record? Bing them.