City Council - Regular Meeting

Everybody ready? I'd like to call the City Council business meeting to order. Today is Wednesday, June 3rd. The time is 6.07. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

Clerk, can you please take the roll? Council Member Murray is absent. Council Member Cavanaugh?

Present.

Council Member Hotchkiss? Present. Council Member Matavetsky? Present. Council Member Rathmell? Present. Council Member Dunn is absent. Council President Pro Tem Middleton? Present. Thank you. Thank you so much.

We will begin by approving the minutes from the special business meeting on May 26, 2026. Do I have a motion?

I'll motion.

Second.

Hold on one second. sorry all in favor aye aye sorry it's so sorry about that i had a question um we do not have any appointments this evening are there any reports from committees

Maybe we want to restate what we sent a bunch of stuff to committee or if there's upcoming committee events for the things we sent to committee if there's yeah if there's anything if anybody has anything they're welcome to say it.

Thank you So Planning committee will be taking on reviewing the FY 52 annual action plan as well as the ESG CDBG home Budget that was recommended by the mayor and introduced on Monday evening Following a recommendation from our Community Development Advisory Council that Planning Committee meeting has not yet been scheduled but will be Likely next week in advance of a public hearing that you'll hear about tonight on June 17th the Planning Committee will also be taking on a a request for legislation on a moratorium essentially on student housing within the city that was introduced during Monday's work session as well. So those are two upcoming committee meetings and I can tell you that we are starting to schedule the community education campaign for the proactive rental housing inspection program legislation that was passed last month. So planning committee is active. uh as is the reimagining center city group but i can let either council member manabetski or council member middleton uh share about the mpa committee discussion or i can Or I can. I'm sorry, I'm just looking at something. Go ahead. Oh, sure. So many are aware we launched what we've called a Reimagining Center City campaign after the renaming of what is now Center City Park. The goal is to focus on redevelopment and revitalization in Center City and get as much feedback from Center City residents as possible. We will be launching a community survey this weekend. So MPA committee members met to discuss an incentive for residents to complete that survey and participate in engagement. So you'll hear about that resolution this evening as well. Anybody else?

Just really quick, can I have a motion to approve May 22nd a business meeting minutes?

I'll make the motion.

I have a motion. Do I have a second? I'll second. Motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Thank you so much. Now, we have one public hearing to set tonight. The city of Binghamton will hold a public hearing regarding RL25-118, an ordinance authorizing the mayor to submit FY52 annual action plan and accept funds from HUD. The public hearing will take place at 6 p.m. during June 17th, 2026, regular city council business meeting in the city council chambers, 38 Holly Street, Binghamton, New York. Residents wishing to participate in the public hearing may do so electronically by emailing their comments prior to 1 p.m. on that day of the meeting at City of Binghamton, I mean at clerkcityofbinghamton.gov or in person during the meeting. We have no public hearings tonight. And now we can move on to public comment. Please come down to the microphone and introduce yourself by first name and indicate whether you live or work in the city of Binghamton. Each speaker has five minutes to address city council on city council issues. Thank you. Also, there's some seats if you wanna wait next in line so you can sit.

Hi. Once again, my name is Neil. I'm a city of Banton resident. And I'm here to ask tonight to ask the council to remove and ban automatic license plate readers from the city. Not just the flock ones, but the Motorola ones that the county plans to put in. On its face, the argument that the cameras stop crime and prevent drug dealing sounds great, but they have unintended consequences, too, because laws change. For instance, when they were put up, we didn't foresee an administration that would be so against trans youth gender identities, and we don't want those kids tracked. I raised four children in the city of Binghamton, and that thought just chills me. The other one is abortion. These cameras track across, they put the data in a database that anybody can use. They track them across state lines. And if they come back on, if New York had made abortion illegal, they could come back with an abortion and be jailed. The son of a Binghamton daughter, that scares me. And something about the flat cameras that people don't talk about is they turn the traditional relationship between police and citizens of a city on its head. You're supposed to have reasonable suspicion or reasonable doubt or reasonable suspicion to observe and track residents that you think are committing a crime. Everybody in the city is tracked. As if they were being. Pursued for criminal purposes. So I so I'm asking that we remove these cameras and I also ask that. The Council look into why I've submitted several for your request to get the contract between. It's flock in the city of Binghamton and I've had no luck in that matter whatsoever or re or explanation why thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else would like to come down and speak?

Good evening, members of the city council. My name is Rich and I'm a resident of downtown Binghamton. I'm here tonight to urge the city to end its contracts with flock safety and other automated license plate reader or ALPR networks operating in our neighborhoods. These systems subject law-abiding citizens to massive warrantless surveillance. While tech vendors exploit legal loopholes in the Fourth Amendment regarding monitoring in public spaces, the sheer scale of this tracking violates the fundamental spirit of our Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure. This is not a closed local security tool. Big Brother is watching you. The data is handled by private corporate contractors with abysmal track records who retain ownership of the data and can share or sell it to data brokers. The city is not in control of this information. Big Tech is and there are no privacy guardrails for handling the information like HIPAA in healthcare or the GDPR in Europe. Furthermore, their security protocols are notoriously weak, making these systems prime targets for malicious hackers, foreign state actors, or stalkers looking to track targets from a safe distance. Because these networks are interconnected nationwide, they effectively expand the jurisdiction of out of state entities into our city. An official in a state with restrictive abortion laws can track a resident traveling through Binghamton. Similarly, immigration enforcement agencies like ICE have increasingly shifted to covert surveillance-driven tactics, turning local infrastructure into a proxy tool to target individuals who are often simply navigating the legal immigration process. This compromises the safety of our neighbors and forces our city to be complicit in federal overreach. Proponents argue, sorry, that these cameras reduce crime, but the reality is that surveillance is strictly reactive. It cannot stop a future crime from occurring. It only records it after the fact. It did not stop an unhoused man from being attacked by teenagers who got the idea from watching TikTok. I previously lived in a suburb without any flock cameras and felt a lot safer there than I do downtown with all the surveillance. True public safety relies on a sense of community trust and neighborliness, not the constant creepy feeling of being watched by big tech companies that track all of our movements and share the data with everyone. So what should we do? If we are to have any cameras at all, they must be strictly local, subject to the normal judicial warrant process, secure, and governed by strict data deletion policies. However, the cleanest and most responsible solution is for Binghamton to cease all cooperation with private ALPR vendors like Flock and Motorola. We can and will do better in Binghamton. Public safety is increased when out of state actors and private companies cannot monitor our daily routines. Let's protect our civil liberties and make Binghamton a place of genuine freedom and privacy rather than living in a dystopian Twilight Zone episode. Let's get Flock and Motorola surveillance cameras out of Binghamton and end all city contracts with them. Thank you.

Thank you. Anybody else?

Hi there, my name's Jasmine Ed. I've called Binghamton my home for about six years now, and I absolutely found community in this town. I'm concerned about the uptake in flock and Motorola cameras that have been installed around Binghamton and in Broome County. There are well over 100 AI-powered cameras, most of which have the option for microphones, by the way, reported in Broome County and to drive here straight from work, I passed 19 cameras. That's 19 cameras that captured my vehicle and most likely my face just to drive here. I feared this much surveillance will never be of benefit to me or my loved ones. I do not believe we have the laws or protections against this violation of my Fourth Amendment rights. I have here proposed laws and regulations to protect me and others against the pervasive nature of flock and other AI-powered cameras. Of all the cameras I often drive by, the one that creeps me out the most is the one right above the road sign indicating where the Lord's Hospital is. I've noticed cameras in parks as well, as I'm driving to church, as I'm heading to get groceries. I remember reading an article stating that there are over 1,600 cameras on BU campus, and I've also noticed cameras pointed straight at the SUNY building in downtown. Why the need to watch me as I'm running errands or as I'm driving to work? Why the need to surveil students and faculty? From my interpretation of the budget, it seems like the city of Binghamton has spent over $175,000 since 2023 towards flock and other surveillance under the guise of gun violence. There are better uses of the gift program like crime prevention through environmental design. Instead, that grant should be spent on fixing our neighborhoods because when we beautify our neighborhoods, we change them for the better. Putting a couple dozen cameras in underdeveloped neighborhoods does not solve crime. You're just criminalizing poor people. Did you know that Binghamton has been quote-unquote persistently poor since the 1980s? Does adding more cameras help this issue? Does it prevent crime? Hell no. Our police officers have access to the data captured on these cameras, including the 19 cameras I drove past today alone. And that data they have access to, do you know how long it's stored on their database? Because I sure as hell don't. That information is not public knowledge. I have friends still waiting to hear back on their FOIA requests. The data that was available, however, was from other public porters or FOIA requests from other towns, in which I noticed that our cops have made well over 150 inquiries to the flock cameras in just the last three months. many of which weren't looking at local cameras, they searched nationwide jurisdictions. If they were trying to solve local crimes, why are they interested in Dunwoody, Georgia? Why is a local cop searching all the way in Douglas County, Nevada for a supposed breaking and enter case? Strangely enough, a lot of searches I found led back to Forest Park, Ohio. What's in Forest Park, Ohio? Why is one of our cops searching that far out? Why redact those searches and why be so vague for the reason of said searches? I ask of you today that you are transparent with the use of the current technology available to our police department and your contract with Flock and other AI-powered surveillance and implement safeguards to protect your constituents from the invasive use of technology. Over 5,000 people nationwide have shown interest in deflocking their cities. We need to add Binghamton and Broome County onto that map.

We need to make our city safe and free.

I'm gonna leave these papers here for the end of the council meeting, thank you.

Thank you so much.

You can come up next.

Good evening. I'm Pat Noble, a licensed clinical social worker in private practice with an office just a few blocks from here. And I would like to speak tonight to the apprehension the use of flock and motorola surveillance is generating in the community. We know that at least a fifth of the U.S. population struggles with anxiety and depression. We are a fearful people at this point in time. Fear is in the air these days. Fear is self-replicating and divides. Fear disrupts our relationships with each other. And now, sadly, fear has become entrenched in our civic and political life. The use of flock for indiscriminate surveillance intensifies communal distrust, including distrust of those that we entrust with the governance of the people, by the people, and for the people. We've all heard on the news how trust in our institutions is staggering, the lack of trust. So I'd like to invite the council who has taken on the work of governance on behalf of those who live, work, or visit the city to consider how the human rights law in the charter and code of ordinances in chapter 45 is relevant to the issue of flock. And I don't intend to preach to the choir, but I'm gonna quote from a piece of it just to make, so I can make the connection. It is the intent of the Binghamton City Council in enacting the Binghamton Human Rights Law to protect and safeguard the right and opportunity of all persons to be free from discrimination based on a person's actual or perceived age, race, color, creed, religion, national origin, ancestry, disability, marital status, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, weight or height, and to empower the courts to provide for remedies for any such discrimination. The authority for this law is the exercise of the city's police power to preserve and care for the safety, health, comfort, and general welfare of its residents and visitors. And as a side note, I couldn't help but notice that one's economic condition is not mentioned on that list of possible discrimination. So indiscriminate surveillance leads to discrimination arising from implicit racism, elitism, and povertyism. And I submit that the use of flock will exacerbate the discrimination that we continue to struggle with here in the city of Binghamton and Broome County that is also in the air. So I would like to put to the council something to reflect on, which actually comes out of my experience of doing family therapy. And I would often ask the parents, do you want a parent out of love or out of fear? So do you want to govern out of fear? Fear of possible or perceived harm to your person and those close to you? Fear of losing your political viability? Fear of your economic security? Fear of losing your partisan prestige? Or do you desire to lead with positive regard and trust in the community you have been elected to serve? I know for myself, I choose not to fear. I choose to trust that this council will choose trust and positive regard and remove flock in order to preserve and care for the safety, health, comfort, and general welfare of the city's residents and visitors. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Good evening. My name is Gary Hibbler. I'm the owner of Al's Garage here in Binghamton. We've been operating for over 40 years in the city. I'm just here to ask you guys to cap the towing list at six. Any more than six, it's gonna put us in financial hardship and make it harder for our already struggling economy the way we are now. We've worked with four for the last 20 years on the list. We just recently added two, which we're making it work, and it's working well. I feel that any more than six, we're gonna start to lose relations with the city PD. The officers aren't gonna know who's coming to tow their cars, because there's gonna be too many people. They're not gonna recognize the companies on scene. I can tell you the companies that are here tonight have been serving the city of Binghamton for over 15 years. and we've all done it very well with very little issues. So I'm here tonight to ask you guys to please cap it at six. Thank you.

Thank you.

Good evening.

My name is Ralph McGrew. I live just outside the city of Binghamton where I have for the past 45 years. I'll be extraordinarily brief. I'm displaying my notes. public safety or national security system of the United States is being deliberately corrupted by the President of the United States and his party, Donald Trump. Immediate evidence of that is his appointment of Bill Pulte as Director of National Intelligence. The Binghamton City Police Department, oh, I am speaking like other speakers against the institution of camera surveillance in the city of Binghamton and in the surrounding county. Bill Pulte has a history of failed prosecutions of persons in government who Donald Trump perceives as his opponents or enemies. He, so far, has been bringing up evidence that they checked a wrong box on mortgage applications. That's the information that he had access to in his previous government job. When he is Director of National Intelligence, I believe that he will have very much greater authority, very much greater ability to gather evidence against people. I believe that he will work along with, for example, ICE to pull out of the hat to randomly choose people who may not have been born in the United States, people who may have been born in the United States but whom he wishes to expel or prosecute or deport in any case. And I think that he will be able to under the guise of cooperation with other security police agencies, assemble information from all sources, including surveillance cameras, about the actions, the likely locations of the people he is prosecuting. It might seem a remarkable extension to imagine that the federal government will pick out a person in Binghamton to persecute, but what we've seen is that the national government does wildly unjust, wildly unpredictable things all the time. So I submit to you that a way to positively prevent the national government from unjust prosecution of Binghamton residents through gathering evidence by surveillance cameras is to not have the surveillance cameras here in the first place. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Hello, so I'm here to echo a lot of the same things that the people before me have and urge the city council to remove not just flock, but all ALPRs, Motorola, the cop strobe towers that exist on Glenwood Avenue, by the Speedway, in Weiss parking lots, when people are just doing simple things like getting gas or getting groceries, and they're constantly being tracked.

And I very- I'm sorry to cut you off. Can I have your name, please? Oh, yes, Kristen. Sorry. Kristen. Thank you.

And I urge Binghamton and the city of Binghamton to stand against mass surveillance in a time where like you do have the power to do so. So obviously there's a lot of different avenues that are a problem when it comes to mass surveillance. But like they knew everything about me before I arrived here. They knew where I came from. exactly how I got here, when I pulled into the parking lot, what my car is. And it's not just license plate readers. I know that can sometimes be a common misconception, but it's vehicle fingerprints. So it's the people in the car, the color of the car, the make of the car, the model of the car, the bumper stickers on the car. A dent that I got by hitting a rock or scraping whatever. It is literally a vehicle fingerprint of my car that they would be able to track back to me even if I didn't have a license plate on my car. And that is when I'm doing anything every single day. And again, that is a problem. There is absolutely no consent there. And to me, that's an egregious constitutional violation against every law abiding citizens that simply exists in the area that we all call home. It also stores that information, so it is not something that is live in that moment. It stores it, again, as the people said, we don't really know how long, right? I've seen things as small as 30 days, but even if we're gonna take that assumption to be true, right? it can understand people's patterns and then it uses that against the community that right we all love so much it's why we live here hopefully while you're on something like the council so i just think it's really important that yes it might be sold as safety and that might be how flock of business is trying to convey that to you because they want the city and our local taxpayers money but it's really taking away our rights right there's 20 billion scans 20 billion scans like really think about how large that is per month and one nationwide hit where a Binghamton cop decides that he wants to learn about something in Georgia, he can access 83,000 clicks at the swipe of, you know, with a few computer clicks. So at this point, I guess as of it's a little bit outdated, but as of April 16th of this year, there were 30 to 50 communities that have decided to go away with flock, remove the cameras, cancel those contracts. And I just want to remind Binghamton that we can do that too. Thank you.

Thank you so much.

Hello.

Hi.

Hi.

My name is Brad Pakalas. I frequent Binghamton very often, so this matter does concern me. I'm kind of speaking on behalf of the same topic as everyone before me here. Um, well, some of the things that come to mind when I'm thinking about this topic is we're hearing about trust and fear, you know? Like, the Wizard of Oz comes, like, this, this, this, this veiled presence behind the curtain. People do not trust right now. This is leading to more distrust, as we've heard previously. We often hear the phrase, I have nothing to hide, as a defense to this, right? Well, why do they wanna know? And specifically in ALPRs and flock here, are they trustworthy and wise enough to know? Now, it seems that we just have, you know, with these safeguards, we'll have, restrictions that limit to certain types of data and information being collected and it seems innocuous these types of data being collected but what is it being used for that's where this distrust is coming from and another concern a consideration here is that we also hear that there's no expectation of privacy in public, right? Well, no, actually there is some expectation of privacy in public already. We have the privacy as considered reasonable as how it's been since the 1960s we make decisions on. However, 2018, There's a US Supreme Court ruling that said you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of your physical movements, including your movements in public, let alone vehicle printing that was just described, just location. This is cell site location information. Sorry, I haven't had enough caffeine today. Yeah, and honestly, I'm sure several of you know the Electronic Frontier Foundation. They're making the argument that that ruling in 2018 is why Flock also is considered a warrantless search. This is their observation, is that Carpenter 2018 ruling already says this is not the way to go. So there is some expectation of privacy in public, and this is a violation of our privacy. And you can see that people are feeling it. I feel it, I go by these cameras, and for every one particular problem that you solve, you're creating how many more? Are we wise enough to have this instrumentarian power, which is, I really strongly recommend looking to a topic called surveillance capitalism, if anyone hasn't heard this. Shoshana Zuboff has done 20 years of research into this topic. She describes that we're installing these instruments of power, and it's not so much the concern of who's in charge right now that I'm concerned about, it's who's gonna make decisions later on with these instruments, these cameras installed, that could be like that, changed. let alone storing our data, and specifically, when you have, just focusing on location, if you can extrapolate the larger picture of someone, and check me on my time, because I will talk forever. Don't worry, we will. You have about a minute and a half left. Okay, sorry, I lose track of time. I'm horrible with time management, so. So if you're going, say you're going from your private residence to a doctor's office to a political headquarters or other locations, well, if say someone does a search on this, I don't know, across the nation, right, and all of a sudden you're starting to see a picture on that person. It's kind of like what happened with the one individual's movements, their family member under the guise of a missing person tracked the abortion case. We've all heard that. That's my concern. We already have examples of our privacy intimately being violated here. And let alone that we already have rulings that say this is unlawful already. So why are we doing this? I think at the heart of this issue, we can all agree it's about trust, and I think trust is at an all-time low. Do we really want to pursue this direction now, installing more devices to divide us when we need to be focused on unification more than ever? I kept seeing this issue as, oh, yeah, this is a part of the larger picture. And honestly, my secret agenda right now is to get you all to think about the flock in your pocket. You know what I mean? This is a part of it. It's a part of it. It's the tip of the iceberg, in my opinion, though. Because surveillance is ubiquitous at this point. It's a part of our economic model. And that's not just corporate profits. That goes to, I'm coming close to my time already. Very close. Okay, I'm going to skip forward here. Okay, so yeah, data is being used to train models. Well, we're kind of like, police shouldn't be for this either. You're training your job out of existence here. We'll get, NYPD already has robots on the subways. China has cops, robot cops, okay? So ALPR automation is a threat to human-guided public safety. And we want humans in charge of public safety, not AI, okay? Thank you.

Thank you so much. Anybody else like to speak? Clerk, do we have any email? Can you please read them?

From Kayla Ville, Discovery Center Board President. To whom it may concern, I'm writing to express my strong support for the Discovery Center of the Southern Tier's request to receive City of Binghamton HUD Entitlement Community Development Block Grant funding to support critical infrastructure improvements. As an not-for-profit organization, the Discovery Center operates on a very limited annual budget that primarily covers essential costs such as staffing, utilities, and insurance. Exhibit enhancements and program improvements depend entirely on external sponsorships. While we are fortunate to operate within a city-owned facility, we are responsible for maintaining aging buildings whose infrastructure is increasingly unreliable. Of particular concern is the facility's HVAC system, which is original, outdated, and no longer supported with available replacement parts. This poses a serious operational risk. In addition to being a valued family destination, the Discovery Center is a licensed Office of Children and Family Services facility, providing education and child care to more than 200 children annually. Strict temperature regulations must be maintained daily. Failure to do so results in classroom closures and sending children home. a reliable hvac system is therefore essential to the continuation of both educational programming and safe operations the discovery center has previously been awarded two hud entitlements cdbg grants and is deeply appreciative of the city of binghamton's continued partnership despite pursuing additional funding sources including attempts over the past two years to secure nysca capital funding these efforts have not been successful Furthermore, donors and sponsors are typically less inclined to support core infrastructure projects, leaving critical needs like HVAC upgrades underfunded. The impact of the Discovery Center on the local community is substantial. The organization serves thousands of children and families each year with over 60,000 annual visitors. More than 30% of visitors reside within Binghamton, demonstrating its strong local reach. The center offers free access to the Story Garden and hosts free First Friday events that serve between 280 and 420 participants each month. Additionally, the Museum for All program provides reduced admission of $3 and is utilized by over 20% of visitors through EBT benefits. Educational programming remains a cornerstone of the center's mission. Its universal pre-K UPK program serves 16 students, all supported by Binghamton City Schools funding. After-school programming enrolls 38 children and summer camps serve 80 children ages 3 to 11. Over half of these participants receive child care assistance through the Department of Social Services. The Discovery Center consistently supports families facing the challenges of poverty by providing high quality educational opportunities and enriching hands-on learning experiences. Ensuring a safe, stable environment for children is the organization's highest priority. The HVAC system is central to achieving this goal. Addressing this need proactively is both fiscally responsible and operationally necessary. Without timely intervention, there is a significant risk of complete system failure, which could result in extended closure and disruption to critical community services. Receiving this funding will allow the Discovery Center to move forward with the purchase of appropriate equipment and strategically planned installation during favorable conditions. Waiting for total system failure is not a viable option for these reasons I strongly urge the city of Binghamton to support this essential request Investing in the Discovery Center's infrastructure and investment is an investment in the well-being education and future of our communities children and families Thank you for your consideration Thank you. From Molly McManus. Dear members of the city council, my name is Molly McManus and I am a lifelong Binghamton resident and board member of the Phelps Mansion Museum. I'm writing in strong support of the ballroom roof repair funding proposed in Mayor Cram's budget. Much of the conversation around community revitalization focuses rightly on jobs, housing, and infrastructure, but thriving communities also need something less quantifiable, places where people simply belong. Third spaces, neither home nor workplace, where neighbors become known to one another, where children encounter art and history for the first time, and where adults find common ground. These spaces are foundational to the social fabric of a city and they are increasingly rare. I became involved with the Phelps Mansion because I believe it is one of them. The ballroom is the heart of that mission. It is where fourth graders get their first look at 19th century Binghamton, where neighbors gather for first free Friday events and performances, and where families who qualify through SNAP EBT can walk through the door without worrying about the cost. Through longstanding partnerships with the Binghamton Philharmonic, Southern Tier Actors Read, and Binghamton University's opera program, the Phelps Mansion Museum makes high quality cultural programming available and affordable. The museum is also deeply committed to the future of the center city and stadium districts. Our upcoming community day on July 11th reflects the kind of relationship we want with this neighborhood. Open doors, a welcoming atmosphere, engaging dialogue with residents, and asking what role residents want to play. I am proud to serve this organization. I am asking you to help us protect it. Please vote to approve this funding. Thank you sincerely for your consideration. From Ryan Comfort, Discovery Center Foundation board member. Dear members of the Binghamton City Council, I am writing to express my strong support for the City of Binghamton HUD entitlement CDBG funding request for the Discovery Center's HVAC replacement project. The Discovery Center serves more than 60,000 visitors annually and provides affordable education programs, UPK, after school care, summer camps, and access initiatives. for families throughout binghamton as a licensed child care and educational facility maintaining safe and consistent temperatures is essential to serving children effectively the current hvac system is original to the building increasingly unreliable and difficult to repair due to unavailable parts a failure could disrupt programs or require temporary closure for a non-profit with little limited resources replacing this critical infrastructure is beyond what annual fundraising can reasonably support This grant is a cost-effective investment in a community institution that provides educational opportunities, childcare and family programming to thousands of local residents each year. I respectfully urge you to approve the funding request and support this important project. Thank you for your consideration for your continued support of organizations that strengthen our community. from aaron donnelly good afternoon i am a board member for the discovery center foundation this email is to request that you share this email with the city council in support of the city of binghamton hud entitlement cdbg funding for the discovery center in support of the request please see the below our not-for-profit barely raises enough to meet our budget on an annual basis and that just covers staffing heat lights and insurance all exhibit upgrades must be sponsor funded we are very fortunate to live in the city-owned maintenance building but we are responsible for the ongoing building maintenance for an aging facility the hvac system is original and out of date we can no longer secure parts for ongoing repairs although we are proud to be a family-based destination for this community we are also a licensed ocfs facility providing education and child care to over 200 children per year we must maintain strict daily temperature guidelines if the classrooms become too warm and too cool we have to cancel school and send children home The HVAC system is critical to the overall operation of the facility. We have successfully received two previous HUD entitlements, CDBG awards, and appreciate the support from the city of Binghamton. We have tried for two years to access a grant from NISCA for a capital reserve to help with the cost of the HVAC, but have not been successful, and donors and sponsors are not typically interested in funding core building improvements. The Discovery Center serves our community's children and families. We provide free access to the Story Garden, and we know that over 30% of all visitors report through our zip code study that they live in Binghamton. Through our museum we offer free first Fridays with 280 to 420 participants at each event. We also offer museum for all admission to the museum for $3 and over 20% of our 60,000 visitors access these benefits with their UBT card. Our education enrollment for UPK and after school care is limited to children attending Binghamton City Schools. We have 16 UPK students and they all receive subsidized support from Binghamton City Schools to attend our program. Our after school programs enroll 38 children and our summer camp enrolls 80 children ages three to 11. Over 50% of these children are supported through DSS childcare payments. We work consistently with families experiencing the trauma of poverty and offer expensive educational programs and powerful hands-on learning experiences. Our first priority is to ensure that our children have a safe place to learn, play, and grow. The heating and air conditioning system is vital to meeting this goal. We are trying to improve the HVAC system in a cost-effective way. If we continue to wait, we are in jeopardy that the system will completely fail and we would have to close for an extended period of time. Receiving the requested award allows us to order the proper equipment and plan for the installation when weather is favorable. We cannot wait for a complete system failure. Thank you for your assistance. From Maureen Hankin, our not-for-profit barely raises enough to meet our budget on an annual basis, and that just covers staffing, heating, lights, and insurance. All exhibit upgrades must be sponsor-funded. We are very fortunate to live in the city-owned maintenance building, but we are responsible for the ongoing building maintenance for an aging facility. The HVAC system is original and out of date. We can no longer secure parts for ongoing repairs. Although we are proud to be a family-based destination for this community, we are also a licensed OCFS facility providing education and childcare to over 200 children per year. We must maintain strict daily temperature guidelines. If the classrooms become too warm or too cool, we have to cancel school and send children home. The HVAC system is critical to the overall operation of this facility. We have successfully received two previous HUD entitlement CDBG awards, and appreciate the support from the city of Binghamton. We have tried for two years to access a grant from NISCA for a capital reserve to help with the cost of the HVAC, but have not been successful, and donors and sponsors are not typically interested in funding core building improvements. The Discovery Center serves our community's children and families. We provide free access to the Story Garden. We know that over 30% of all visitors report through our zip code study that they live in Binghamton. Through our museum, we offer free first Fridays with 280 to 420 participants at each event. We also offer Museum for All admission to the museum for $3, and over 20% of our 60,000 visitors access these benefits with their EBT card. Our education enrollment for UPK and after-school care is limited to children attending Binghamton City Schools. We have 16 UPK students, and they all receive subsidized support from Binghamton from Binghamton City Schools to attend our program. Our after school program enrolls 38 children and our summer camp enrolls 80 children aged three to 11. Over 50% of these children are supported through DSS childcare payments. We work consistently with families experiencing the trauma of poverty and offer expensive educational programs powerful hands-on learning experiences our first priority is to ensure that our children have a safe place to learn play and grow the heating and air conditioning system is vital to meeting this goal we are trying to improve the HVAC system in a cost-effective way if we continue to wait we are in jeopardy that the system will completely fail we would have to close for an extended period of time receiving the requested award allows us to order the proper equipment and plan for the installation when weather is favorable we cannot wait for a complete system failure From Nadia Luby, good evening, my name is Nadia Luby and I'm a Binghamton resident writing in to express my concerns regarding the safety and privacy of our community following the installation of flock cameras throughout our streets. These cameras pose significant security risks and are vulnerable to abuse by bad actors as evidenced by numerous stalking cases across the country involving flock and other automated license plate readers. My neighborhood has historically been an immigrant neighborhood. Many of our current residents are immigrants and members of other minority groups who are disproportionately more likely to become targets of systemic abuse. I do not feel that our community is safer with Flock's presence, and I would strongly support the cancellation of the contract. Thank you for your time.

A big thank you to everyone who spoke tonight. We will now move on to our first reading legislation. First on the agenda, we have Introductory Ordinance 026-37, Considered in Rules and Procedures with Council Member Medovetsky.

I'd like to make a motion for Introductory Ordinance 026-37, an ordinance to amend Chapter 2, Traffic.

Have I have a first I have a motion to have a second a second A motion and a second? Discussion?

Great. So there have been some changes and challenges relating to how we do towing. And it seems, from my understanding, that there was a lot of things that were done based on discussions and agreements, but it wasn't kind of codified in a consistent manner, which is why this was brought to us. open to other people adding their understandings.

Sure. I'll add in something. I spoke with a few of the towing company guys. I'm not sure who I spoke with. I don't know if you guys are here, but I spoke with a few people. And one of the things they are worried about is another two tow companies coming together and setting up something and still getting the business, which takes away from them. So I am in support of this legislation. We want to continue to do the business with the people that we have been doing, and I am in support of this ledge.

Just to add a little bit of context. So specifically, there is and will be a primary, secondary, and heavy-tower list in the city of Binghamton and with the tow rotation. We heard public comment earlier requesting that that primary rotation list be capped at six. That is currently included in this legislation as it is written, and the heavy-duty tow list is limited at this point to three. Yep, thank you.

Anybody else? Yeah, so I'm looking at the legislation and the issues that have been occurring with the towing list. I'm in favor of limiting the list to the six towing companies that, I think that's an adequate size to provide service, and it seems that number seems to be working. My issue is still with the setting and negotiation of the fees. I don't, I've, through meeting with, Through meeting with traffic division and looking into tow rates and reimbursement rates, I think the current city rate that was set for a number of years I think is I think towing companies deserve to make a profit for their efforts. I am not convinced that going by the New York State police schedule is necessarily the best move for the city. It's there, so it's convenient, but I think getting towed from a far distant point somewhere in the hinterlands of New York State to a, you know, to a, there could be a, you know, a dozen mile tow or 20 or 30 mile tow, and that's built into that fee number. I think we need to come up with a number that's more friendly and conducive to the size of Binghamton, but still allows you know, the tow companies to function. So I think we need a meeting perhaps with a couple of the tow companies directly and feel things out a little bit better. Sorry, motion to hold over, I guess.

Okay, so hold over motion, not a specific amendment to recommend this time.

If we can engineer an amendment to limit the towing companies to six right now, and get that issue off the table, that would be fine with me, but leave the rest of it for later discussion or just try and get it all figured out before the next meeting.

So you said you wanna hold it over?

That's my preference. The current motion on the table. Yeah, I motioned, yeah.

Do I have a motion? Do I have a second? I'll second. A motion and a second? Discussion?

Let's hold over. And just to clarify, it's to, so the holdover is to adjust the rate.

to negotiate and set the fees, essentially. That's my primary concern.

Just making sure to keep it straight.

Do you know what the, you said what the New York state fees are right now? I have them, I can share them.

Okay. But as to the folks that were here earlier and spoke, I think we're all in support of the limiting the toll list and working through that.

For the public, because this kind of sounds a little weird, but the way it was presented to us was that there were people that were generating multiple LLCs that were really the same business so that they could get multiple slots on the towing list so that they could kind of hog the business. That's how I recall it being presented from the traffic division. So there was kind of concerns over this ability to endlessly generate LLCs and kind of use the same trucks and whatnot to really be the same person. That's why it's cat yeah, yes, the goal is for the towing companies on the list weird for the council to be saying Oh, we want to cap it because we want to work with people The goal is to have towing companies on the list that are legitimate self-contained towing companies with a capacity to Meet whatever the towing needs are for that week Okay, and not need to go out and rent or borrow the equipment in order to deliver on the towing okay so it so yeah and so in terms of a meeting I am not available next week but I will attempt to schedule something the following week I have a big And it'll be on the agenda.

The holdover just means that it'll be voted on at our next business meeting.

Our next business meeting, and in between then, I will attempt to schedule, so make sure I get your contact infos, for example.

Okay, thank you. Next on the agenda, we have Introductory Ordinance 026-48, considered in planning with Councilmember Rathmell.

against councilmember Rathmell this is so I'm not introducing a motion to adopt but I am introducing for context ordinance o 26-48 an ordinance to authorize the sale of 2 and 4.5 Fayette Street to Broome County Habitat for Humanity okay hold on one sec

So I'm just gonna state for the record that we don't have enough members to vote on it right now, so that'll be on our business meeting for next agenda. We don't have enough people.

Can I make a quick comment on it? Sure, do your thing. Both 2.5 and 4 Fayette Street are zoned in an R3 district, which allows for multifamily development. And they're trying to build single family homes. My position on this is that there are other vacant lots in the city that are in single family districts that are owned by the city. that would be better suited for this type of development. I did a search of different vacant lots and sent those over to the executive director and she is reviewing them with her team. and is open to exploring those as an option the the two that stand out in my head is probably most viable and kind of fitting the same narrative arc as as the lots on Fayette Street is 22 Clark Street that is served as a backdrop for a handful of press conferences from the mayor when he was announcing different legislation about about code and code prosecution of slumlords which is now a vacant law that has been demolished it's walking distance from an elementary school so if this is intended for a young family to have home ownership opportunities and grow and develop in that neighborhood. I think that's a great spot. The other spot is 40 Hotchkiss Street. Not only is it a great name, it probably has a great view of the city, and it's in a residential neighborhood that is zoned R1. But those are some of the options that I gave them to explore. Yeah, I'm welcoming that Habitat gets back in the habit of doing development in the city. I just have my critique of where multifamily should be and where single family should be. Thanks.

Thank you for that, Council Member Hotchkiss. Great name. So now we are going to move on to next on the agenda is Introductory Ordinance O26-51, considered in finance with Council Member Cavanaugh.

Thank you. I'd like to motion to adopt O26-51, an ordinance to amend the 2026 capital fund budget for increased cost of a water distribution truck. Second I have a motion in the second discussion Right we approved In our capital plan the budget last year for purchase of a water distribution truck and a backhoe The backhoe is coming under budget. The water distribution truck is coming over budget This is transferring money between those two items to facilitate purchase of both Anybody else clerk, can you please call the roll?

Council member Rathmell.

Aye.

Council member Matavetsky. Aye. Council member Hotchkiss. Aye. Council member Cavanaugh. Aye. Council members Murray and Dundon are absent. Council President Pro Tem Middleton. Thank you. That is 5-0. Thank you so much.

Next on the agenda, we have Introductory Ordinance 026-52, considered in planning with Council Member Rathmell.

Thank you, Council President Pro Tem. Middleton, I'd like to make a motion to adopt Introductory Ordinance 026-52, an ordinance to authorize the city to purchase 15 Fayette Street. I have a motion, do I have a second?

We can't do it. Oh, sorry, we're gonna have to put this on for the next, for our next business meeting because we don't have enough people. Thank you so much. Sorry about that, we were confused. Next on the agenda, we have an introductory resolution, R26-38, considered in Municipal and Public Affairs. Councilmember Metavesky, can you introduce that for me?

I'd like to make a motion for introductory resolution R26-38, a resolution to authorize an agreement with Astor D. Rice Foundation for rec center use.

I have a motion, do I have a second?

Second.

Motion and a second. Discussion, I guess I'll start since this is my committee. First, we, Amy Rice, who's in charge of the Aster D. Rice Foundation, came down a few weeks ago regarding the rec center and the use and how they want to expand their services. which we're really excited about. We got the schedule from Shane, who's in charge of the rec center, and along with Amy, and we're going to, in the future, plan some things, but for right now, we're just going to do to give her the authorization and the agreement to use it, but we're excited about you and your services coming to the rec center, and please keep us informed with whatever you do, and we're here to support you and your mission, so thank you so much for that. Does anybody else have anything they would like to say?

Yeah, I think the discussion has really been about a recreation center being more broad, being a recreation and a youth center, and not being so narrowly focused exclusively on sports. Not that there's, you know, want the sports too, but expanding to make sure more people are getting the support and the enjoyment.

Making use of the center.

Making use of the center, exactly. So thank you for bringing this to us.

So thank you. Does anybody else have any discussion regarding this? All right. Clerk, can you please call the roll?

Council Member Rathmell? Aye. Council Member Matavetsky? Aye. Council Member Hotchkiss? Aye.

Council Member Cavanaugh? Aye. Council Members Murray and Dundon are absent. Aye. Council President Rota-Middleton, thank you, that is 5-0. Sorry.

Thank you so much. Next on the agenda, we have introductory resolution R26-41, considered in planning with Council Member Rathmell. Can we do this one?

This one is contingent on 026-52. So we're gonna. We may need to. The next. So that one's not a. But we haven't bought it yet. We haven't approved the purchase yet. Does that matter?

carts and horses, but I guess it's okay.

Yeah, I mean, you could authorize it. We just can't really execute it until we do the purchase.

Okay, then I am happy to make a motion to adopt introductory resolution R26-41. This is a resolution to authorize a lease agreement for 15 Fayette Street to SUNY Binghamton's Harriet Tubman Center.

Second.

Motion and a second discussion.

So for those following along on the agenda, 026-52 will authorize the city to purchase 15 Fayette Street. It's the former Samaritan's House, has been used by Chau, brick building on Fayette Street. The goal is to lease that building for the use of Binghamton University's Harriet Tubman Center. The interest is expanding the Harriet Tubman Center, anchoring on 15 Fayette, which is right along the Freedom Trail that was established within the last few years. and to continue to pursue partnerships both with the university and other institutions to support the revitalization efforts of Center City. I will add Dr. Ann Bailey and Sharon Bryant who lead the Harriet Tubman Center have consistently committed their interest in participating in the Reimagining Center City campaign, soliciting community engagement and feedback regarding whether it's programming or support that they provide through that center. So they, rather than as an academic effort simply coming into a neighborhood and letting residents know what they think it needs, they have committed to joining the process of receiving community feedback and then building their program and structure based on that.

Anybody else? Clerk, can you please call the roll? Council Member Rathmell?

Aye.

Council Member Matavetsky? Aye. Council Member Hotchkiss? Aye. Council Member Cavanaugh? Aye. Council Members Murray and Dunn are absent. Council President Pro Tem Middleton? Aye. Thank you, that is 5-0.

Thank you so much. Next on the agenda, we have Introductory Resolution R26-42, considered in Municipal and Public Affairs. Council Member Matavetsky, can you introduce that for me?

Okay, I'd like to make a motion for R26-42, a resolution to authorize blue bag promotion for reimagining Center City.

I have a motion, do I have a second? I'll second. Motion and second, discussion?

Great, so Councilman Rathmell's just mentioned multiple times already this meeting that there's an initiative driven by city council on the reimagining of Center City, and as part of that, we wanna get community feedback. The city has done, for other communities, and things where they've needed information from residents, various promotions, and we felt that blue bags would be a good way to thank people for their time filling out surveys to help us create a more prosperous and enjoyable and great place to live center city. I'll let Councilwoman Rathmel take it away.

No that I mean that describes the incentive and the interest the survey that was created that we hope to launch this weekend but it will be available for Center City residents for Binghamton residents specifically although or I guess I should say primarily that's the feedback we're hoping to get but throughout the month of June. So there are a number of events, a number of partners, the library, Astor D. Rice Foundation, Vines, Broome County Urban League, a handful of other partners, Juneteenth will be out at Center City Park with the survey, with iPads to complete the survey. That won't just be a one-time thing. We'll make that survey available throughout the entire month of June, and those that respond will give you a free pack of blue bags.

Thank you, anybody else? I just wanted to say, since it's my committee and I couldn't really talk, I just wanted to say that I support this initiative also.

Okay, thank you. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Council Member Rathmell? Aye. Council Member Matabetski? Aye. Council Member Hotchkiss? Aye. Council Member Cavanagh?

Aye.

Councilmembers Murray and Dundon are absent. Council President Pro Tem Middleton.

Thank you, that is 5-0.

Thank you so much. Next on the agenda, we have introductory resolution R26-43, considered in municipal and public affairs. Councilmember Medvedsky.

I'd like to make a motion for R26-43, a resolution to authorize free parking at municipal ramps on Saturdays in July 2026.

I have a motion. Do I have a second?

Second.

Motion and a second. Discussion?

So basically, free parking Saturdays for the month of July, that's a month when the students aren't here and businesses can find it a bit of a slow time downtown. It's the parking garages only. Previously we had done, I can't remember if it was over Christmas or if it was the last July, previously we had done parking garage and street parking, but the challenges with that was that people were then not following two-hour parking or short-term parking issues, because it didn't make sense to exactly enforce if there's no fees. So it caused challenges for businesses who do need parking right in front of their store. So this time we are limiting it to free parking in the municipal ramps. It's also a way to encourage the public to use the municipal ramps. They are a good option. They are lit now, and they're better shaped than they previously were before the construction of the new parking ramps. So hopefully it'll get people feeling more comfortable in those spaces to use them ongoingly.

Anyone else? Anybody else? I'm sorry. I don't mean to giggle, but I thought you were saying it's lit, like it's cool. Me too.

Me too. In my mind, I didn't want to say anything.

Oh, lit like lighting. Got it. Yeah.

No, I mean like we used to have some parking garages that I didn't feel great in at night. We have multiple new parking garages now that you don't feel. I caught up. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Me too.

I was like, oh, Hadassah, lit, okay. Okay, anybody else? Clerk, can you please call the roll?

Council Member Rathmell. Aye. Lit. Council Member Matavetsky. Aye. Council Member Hotchkiss. Aye. Council Member Cavanaugh. Aye. Council Members Dunne and Murray are absent. Council President Pro Tem Middleton. Aye. Thank you, that is 5-0.

Thank you so much. And next on the agenda, we have Introductory Resolution R26-44, Considered and Planning with Council Member Rathmell.

Thank you, Council President Pro Temp. Middleton, I'd like to introduce a motion to adopt introductory resolution R26-44, a resolution to authorize the Board of Contract and Supply to solicit bids for the sale of 312 Maid Street. I have a motion, do I have a second? I'll second oh I'll second motion in a second discussion So this is a property 312 Main Street currently owned by the city and the intent is to award to solicit competitive bids and to award the sale to the highest responsible bidder so when we Say responsible bidder, there are a handful of parameters to those that can submit and be considered. Things like timely payment of property taxes, record free of significant or repeat code violations. So this isn't just a whoever throws in the highest offer, but this starts the process of soliciting those competitive bids.

The property is a small commercial property. There was a dry cleaner on there, and the community may remember it as Grover's Pig Stand way back in the day, but it doesn't fit with any of the other property use things that we do as far as... market for single-family home construction or the sign lot program or or even Infill housing of some sort it's it's a commercial lot basically so it's kind of out of our wheelhouse of how to deal with things so Going out to you know, the public sale seems to be a wise course of action

Okay, anybody else? Clerk, can you please call the roll? Council Member Rathmell. Aye. Council Member Matavetski. Aye. Council Member Hotchkiss. Aye. Council Member Cavanaugh. Aye. Council Members Murray and Dundon are absent. Aye.

Council President Pro Tem Middleton. Thank you, that is five-zero.

Thank you so much. Now we're going to move on to communication from council, and tonight we're gonna start with Council Member Matavetski.

All right, so I have my typical Discovery Center and Ross Park Zoo announcements. So they mentioned many, many times in the letter about the free night at the Discovery Center, but they didn't include the date and time. So that is, free admission is June 5th, so this Friday at 4 p.m. I believe it's four to six or four to eight. I made a bad note there, but it starts at four. It's the free First Friday art show, and there will be a new exhibition at the Discovery Center, so if you haven't been there with a child or grandchild in a while, there's going to be something new, and you can go look at their Facebook page to see that. It is Flutter into Fun Butterfly Education and Awareness Day this Saturday at the Ross Park Zoo from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. So there will be some extra fun stuff with regular admission. And Friday is Donut Day, which I'm not going to say the business by name, but there is a very lovely donut shop in the south side of Binghamton. So if you were thinking donuts on Friday, maybe come by the south side. So great, that's what I got. I guess I acknowledge all the folks that came out to speak to us. I think that we've had ongoing discussions publicly about cameras. They are in all of our districts, so it's relevant to each of our districts. It's a challenging conversation, but not one that we haven't engaged in, so I look forward to continuing the engagement.

Thank you, Council Member Rathmell.

Thank you. Two quick event announcements. So Astor D. Rice Foundation's Beautify the Block community cleanup is happening this Saturday, June 6th from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Meet up at Center City Park. And then the Broome County Public Library is also having their All Ages Pride event this Saturday as well. Specifically regarding the comments we received in relation to concerns of FLOC and Motorola surveillance, I do want to share that on May 5th of this year, I submitted a request to the city's corporation council for a copy of any current contracts or agreements with FLOC or other automatic license plate reader systems. I also requested answers to the following questions. There are eight with a few sub-questions, but what parameters exist in the city's current contracts with flock safety around data retention? What flock safety surveillance data is stored long-term? What parameters exist in the city's current contracts with flock safety around data transmission? What data is transmitted what access use and sharing? Restrictions are written into the city's current contracts with flock safety our warrants required for historical searches of flock safety or other ALPR data What policies exists to govern ALPR use? what How are current contracts audited for misuse or disparate impact or performance outcomes? Does Binghamton have any contracts with Motorola Solutions? I realized I don't know the answer to that question. And how does the county's current contractor contracts with Motorola Solutions involve or impact Binghamton? So as we know more, our hope is that you will too.

Anybody else? I mean, anything else? Council Member Hotchkiss.

Thank you, Council President. I thank everybody for coming in to share their comments and concerns about flock safety and generally the expansion of surveillance throughout Binghamton. I had a lot of reservations when this first came up, and I voted the wrong way. I think there's obviously a lot of cause for concern of how data is being used and how the surveillance systems are built, and generally the false promise from all these tech companies that are just trying to expand their businesses essentially. But really what we did fairly recently as a council is try to limit the data sharing between the city and the federal government, but I don't think we actually have the ability to do that because it's all being controlled by these companies and we don't actually own these cameras or license plate readers. And I think everybody's like fear and anxiety about how its surveillance is being rolled out and how this administration is operating or is completely valid And I'm happy to work to try to get us out of those contracts. So that's and like if you dig into this at all the cameras are like massively like insecure not in like a personal emotional way but like you can just google how to hack them in like 10 minutes some youtuber will show you how to do it and it's not being controlled by a government you can get into the back end from being a a novice guy that can use google so it's a there's a lot of there's a depth of issues with this technology That's all. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Council Member Cavanaugh.

I'll echo some of the sentiments of my council colleagues as far as overreach and data retention in terms of the license plate readers and cameras that have been deployed. We have to be more thoughtful and vigilant on, I think, technology deployment. We also have to balance that with the fact that they are providing, in some cases, more actual comfort and security. I mean, I have the number of tenants that beg for extra cameras and stuff. That needs to be balanced. But we've swung too far in one direction. Some of the folks that are here, and watching on the community and that are so concerned about the surveillance issue. Council has I think one of our functions is to be here, to be a public body, to listen and to give residents and other citizens a forum to have a few minutes to speak publicly. We are not the only level of government to be concerned about here. We could remove all of our cameras and license plate readers tomorrow. That doesn't necessarily reduce surveillance in Binghamton or Broome County, there's another level of government you have to think about. So I'm just saying, don't come just to us.

Thank you. So I guess it's my turn. I just want to echo everyone's sentiments. I'm really interested in learning. I always like to learn. Regarding flock cameras, I don't know what my decision on. And for me, I have a personal reason to why I'm going to look at the information closely with this regarding flock. I just want to... just echo Councilman Rathmell's announcement regarding the Aster D. Rice cleanup event it's a great event there's music there's food they give away blue bags and they give away recycling bins so I think that's a great thing to have not only that there's resource tables there in the community and things that we do in the community so I really love that event if I'm not If I'm in town, I'll definitely try to stop by there. Also next week is Juneteenth. No, no, no, no, we got one more week. I'm rushing. See, I don't know, school's almost over. So yeah, we'll talk about that next week.

Do you have one more thing? Sorry, one more event. Jumped out of my mind, Scott Pavlik, 5K, Fun Zone, Touch a Truck, I think there's a kickball tournament, so basically a big epic day on Sunday at MacArthur Park that the whole community is welcome to honor the memory.

It's their first year and they're trying to knock it out of the park, so to speak.

Sorry, throwing it in during the event section and I will pass it back.

Okay, and can I have? I'll motion to adjourn. Oh, thank you so much. Motion and a second?

Second.

All in favor? Aye. This meeting is adjourned, thank you.