Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

Yeah. [laughter] Goodbye. Mediterranean diet. I want to get [clears throat] Maybe that's why they replace [laughter] the animal [laughter] first. First meeting [laughter] first meeting.

All right. Attention. Can I get everybody to quiet down, please? We're going to call signing commission meeting to order. Class class reunions to get their attention.

Thank you. I'm going to call this meeting at a planning commission full order. [clears throat] Start out with a roll call. Well, we're all still here plus Dan Mountain. So, all present. Uh item number two is consideration and approval of minutes from Thursday, December 18th, 2025. I'll make a motion to discuss the reading. Second. Any further discussion? All in favor? I opposed.

Motion carries [clears throat] that we heard from a legal perspective decision makers have to have enough information to intelligently come to conclusions appropriate conclusion. So my suggestion would be that and it will ultimately go to the point of tableing would be that the that a motion be made that the additional studies be undertaken and research done in order to provide information that will be the best available to make decisions. Uh and if that motion's made and seconded then as a planning commission I would hope the group and their engineer planner lawyer study being born by the militant tax the cost of getting information sufficient to make decisions for this application should be born by the applicant. I'm saying that up front to vote on the three points that will probably be tabled tonight.

And let's talk about it tonight and let's identify what those topics are to give directions. [clears throat and cough] Correct. Would you like to amend your motion? Yeah. What he said? Yeah. But I think it's through discussion that we're going to of that motion. Right. Right. motion second and then further discussion. Yeah. If we go motion for a second and vote on it if it's adopted then I think we have a discussion on what those topics are further research. All right. Amended motion by me. I'll second.

Now we do any further discussion. What motion? So, [clears throat] let's let's vote on the motion first. Okay. Authorized. All in favor? I opposed. Okay. Motion carries. And that's for all three items on the agenda.

Yeah. All three. Yeah. And then uh I made a list of items that I thought people place were important. First of all, I think that the staff is planning and engineering should contact communities where they have similar uh uses in order to determine what the impact of those uses are. That covers a broad spectrum, but I think it would be helpful to have firsthand information from those other communities as to the reality of that use on the joining property. Uh there's a question about the value of uh reduction in value of surrounding properties. Um I think that probably could be researched uh through assessors or appraisers and some conclusions. Uh there's a statement that there's wetlands involved here. That may be that should be checked or double checked or triple checked. Um there's a question about groundwater use and this type of use certainly does require some kind of use of water to water the green fields. Uh [clears throat] need to be some sort of information that indicates that it's not going [clears throat] to have an adverse impact on the groundwater. Uh there was a federal protected species uh which maybe are called fish and wildlife or federal fish and wildlife service. Um there are several assertions of some archaeological significance to the cemetery site and prior contact with the DNR as part of the combination of impact while

researching with other communities. Uh noise should be uh considered to realistically understand what the impact of these uses are on other communities. the uh issue of safety, police and fire. Again, I think that to contact other communities and to contact our own chief of police and our own fire chief to determine what they foresee to be the realistic impacts of this type of development. And maybe those respective chiefs want to talk to the chiefs [clears throat] and communities or they have the same type of issue. Um and the same with crime. There were some comments made on crime and again I think it would be go wise to go to the horse's mouth to determine whether [clears throat] that is a real issue with this type of image and if so what we could uh do to deal with it. There's a real general underlying issue that have to be considered. Uh, and some people aren't going to like what I'm going to say, but I'm going to say it. If you look at I43 and Morland Road, and you'll look at uh I43 and Highway 83, we all know the direction that's gone. Morland Road, 164, 83, and 67 are major north south connectors in Waka County. major east west connectors are 94 maybe Capitol Drive and I43. When you look at each one of those intersections, you see what the forces of e likely that there's going to be some kind of intense development on an interstate highway and a state highway.

That's the reality of it. might not like it moved here to move to become members of a living silven but I could predict I think that there will be changes that are going to occur and uh that's just life that's the reality of it. Uh but in any event, if indeed there be some more intense development there, what do we as a community lose by having lowbased baseball fields and what tax generates tax generation is going to occur with that compared to uh a hotel? sometime I'll put I'll predict I won't let you see it but I'll predict every hotel at this point going to happen in my view uh but this economic impact of it to the village for not be born by the village taxpayer the applicant is the one who requires this information to be gathered and there uh drainage and storm water management has been a a big issue and that's going to be looked looked at I think very closely and the comments that I'm going to make by some of the people will certainly be considered uh

well I think I think that's just [clears throat] the other inquiries but those are the things that I recognize I thought required more information. Thank you. Thank you Lauren. I would add ceiling on it to that list. Absolutely.

The dark you mentioned traffic stud

the staff is going to have to agree with the development or as to who does this. uh we want to have independent analysis conduct that um and I know a company that I would suggest that do a hell of a good job for traffic study but they're independent they don't really care who's paying them they come up with an objective conclusion uh written plan and suggested loan from the village.

It has been discussed possibility but that would be something to get rid What about the tip district and how it's going to extend to that area? It wouldn't you wouldn't be able to do a tip. So the [clears throat] TD1's going to stay the way it is. Correct.

Mr. You got anything? Regurgitate a lot of what Mike just said. certain water traffic and street improvements, storm water management. Um the there is an accepted wetland delineation on this property already. I'm very glad the permitting process through the DNR is going to deal with the endangered species and the archeological. It's a requirement of all this permits. Now, um deal with storm water and all that too. Well, yeah, it's it's all part of process. The minute you disturb more than that an acre and ground whether there's wet land or not required to get a VNR permit to do all this work.

Yep. Do we need to do anything that was mentioned in the report with the electrical powers getting the energy commission involved? [clears throat] I need any communication with them. Yeah, they have an easement. They can't encroach on

the walls. comment in regards to the grade the group the grave and stuff that I know they've been working on that some of the stuff some of the some of the people have been already moved to WA it's a matter of verification on everything and whether or not everyone has been moved so that has to be researched as well in regards to all that I think that goes well we'll We can't hear you. I'm so sorry. I I can't hear you. I don't know about anybody else. We can't just barely hear. Yeah.

So, basic basically what we're talking about is a great thing. The old cemetery that was there. There were some sites that were already moved to Wauaaw. It's a matter of getting verification on whether or not everyone was moved to Wauaawa. Um that process is still ongoing. So there really nothing much at this point until everything's all verified on that end because that comment had come up during public comments in regards to to the old site out there. Thank you.

All I added was that the village engineer covered this with uh whenever you disturb one acre or more of land that the NR gets involved and they take care of storm water, groundwater, cemeteries, uh wildlife, all of that. They're they're going to mandate all of that with permits and research and their maps and you're talking like we can't hear you. Thank you. That's on back and forth there. Mhm. Anything else?

Did they Did you guys report in there too? Yes. Right there with the lighting. So the 14 points that we have right now would be the value, the wetlands, the groundwater and storm water, contacting other communities with similar uses, noise, protected species, safety, sewer and water, roads, economic impact, the dark sky/lighting, traffic study, financing, as well as great 14. I got 13.

I want you guys are changing the ordinances and the requirements associated with making application resulting. You are putting on more restrictions than exist in your code. You can't do that. Um just so everyone knows your name and address. My name is David Mler. I'm a lawyer with whip. My address is not in this community because I'm the attorney for the developer. But you represent the applicant, the developer. Yes.

Okay. And I appreciate that. You and I had a private conversation. Um I think I'll say the same thing that you said as when you walked away from me, and that is we disagree. Uh all I'm saying is you need enough information to intelligently come to decisions. At this point in time, we're not going to go into the detail that's required for a permit, but we are going to go deep enough into it to determine whether this works and what the major impacts are on the community, the people living in that area. I don't have an axe one way or the other to to the outcome of this. I only want it to be done correctly. And I think that getting detailed information is what's essential to getting it done correctly. that is not required in your application for zoning change. So what you're doing is setting a precedent for everybody that makes the zoning change that they have to do all these reports. These reports are required later on in the process, not at this stage.

So again, so if you're going to if [laughter] the village is going to do that, they should put it in their ordinances on what they're going to put in their application to do so each year. the only available option. I'm not there to discuss further right from what I'm disagree but thank you not moving along. We already motioned and we could discussion.

Well, I think developer is going to be involved in it also. So I think we're ready to go forward on that issue and all these three items have been table by correct along planners reports. I uh I got nothing additional to offer tonight. Outstanding. You guys kept me pretty busy. Bill here.

Correspondence. I'm going through all of that. I believe next meeting date is Thursday, February 19th, 2026 at 700 p.m. Please note all in favor. We are adjourned. Thank you all very much. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for your input. We appreciate it. Hope we can have a plan. They were half as much [laughter] as me. Good job. I want a flag on my wall.

Thank you.

I got to get home. When I get home, I got your dad. Everybody [laughter] got 35 years ago.

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You're right. I was [laughter] glad you said what you said. You know, right? There you go. I really I'll be here every time. [laughter] [laughter] Yeah. [laughter] [laughter]

Holy Spirit.

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