Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, February 26, 2026
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Government Body
Planning Board
Meeting Type
Planning Board
Location
Bernardsville, NJ
Meeting Date
February 26, 2026

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84 sections (from 315 segments)

0:01 – 0:180

Sherry is just my name. Actually, she's not going to watch now. Oh, really? I just spoke to her a little while. Okay. And Joe isn't going to make it tonight. Yeah.

0:26 – 1:250

We are all of our friends to share with In accordance to the open public meetings act, please note the following. All Bernardville bureau planning board meetings will be held in Perth at the meeting hall on the second floor of the Bernardville Municipal Building at 166 Mbridge Road. Meetings will be live streamed on YouTube with no opportunity on YouTube for public comment. Members of the public wishing to offer comments or ask questions will be required to attend the meetings in person. Effective February 12, 2026. Meetings will begin at 7 PM. YouTube live stream access for all meetings is YouTube uh at Bernardsville Bureaus. This link will also be available on the agenda for each meeting, which is posted on the Burough website, burnersville.org, and on the Burough Hall public bulletin board at least 48 hours prior to meetings. might be burn. No. It is.

1:23 – 1:350

It is. Make a note. Well, wait. But not on the YouTube. It isn't. It's a website. Oh, what? Okay. So, okay.

1:33 – 2:240

Notice of these changes has also been emailed to the Bernestil News and the Courier News by posting a copy on the bureau website and by filing a copy with the municipal clerk all on January 22nd, 2026. It's the intention of the board not to continue any matter past 11 p.m. at any regular special meeting of the board unless a motion is passed by members then present to extend to a later testified cut off time and same shall be announced the opening of each meeting. In addition, the board does not intend to begin a new hearing after 10 p.m. begin. Any hearing conducted by the board is a quasi judicial proceeding. Any questions or comments must be limited to issues that the that are relevant to what the board may legally consider in reaching a decision. The crime appropriate to judicial hearing must be maintained at all times. Roll call.

2:22 – 2:530

Yes, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Demarco is absent. Miss Geller is absent. Mr. Gra Yes, here. Mr. Malia here. Mr. Morrison here. Mr. STO present. Mr. Trainer here. And Mr. You have farms. No, not the meetings. Old Jack was here.

2:56 – 3:360

Uh, meeting minutes. I didn't upload them. My apologies. Communications? None. No visitors related to the agenda after review and approve the bills. Anything you need to tell us about the bills? Um so the update on the bill I did speak with um B administrator Nancy Malu and she agreed that the uh the bills pertaining to the Belchman farm issue should go to the board of adjustment espro

3:34 – 4:100

that matter. So that we kind of left that um as it as it was, right? Yes. But we didn't. So yeah, so those invoices um were corrected and and re redone and and the first one um on the list for the non-ES for the planning board general that is a corrected invoice less all of the other items. Yeah, that's residual in essentially.

4:08 – 4:430

Council's waiting patiently and happy to do so. Yes. Anything any comments? Have a motion. Make a motion to approve the bills. Second. I'm sorry. Second. Thank you. Roll call. Mr. Graham? Yes. Mr. Malia? Yes. Mr. Morrison? Yes. Mr. Sass? Yes. Mr. Trainer? Yes. And Mr. Philip?

4:39 – 5:390

Yes. motion. Okay. Uh so we have consistency um the views here basically brown the the first one we saw it we uh the council um accepted the recommendations of the planning board for change to I'll say clarify the uh measurement of height on particularly on the um the overlay zone on Church Street. So that basically know the exact in front of me more or less says that the elevation will be measured from the lowest point along 202. There's that 2041 in the first one which is the which are the ordinances and the organisms.

5:40 – 6:030

Is that a red line? It's the lowest elevation along the front yard set back at the primary street which for the avoidance doubt is yeah it just needed to be in there explicitly. No just that that was the point to say to it too if you did

6:04 – 7:300

comments. Well Mr. Chair just the as we know the master plan consistency review not a public hearing but on referral from the governing body. Um so we do have a memo from uh and chief mine for the benefit of the board as the consistency of that ordinance with master plan. We have a resolution uh that we always do. This one's a little longer than usual because the reference is our last stab of the review uh which led to the recommendation which was such a good recommendation that it went right into the uh introdued amended version. Uh so we can go right as always to adopting the resolution finding the ordinance to be non inconsistent with the master plan. But I'm getting ahead of my skis because our main on the opening our main attracts two weeks ago and does this add clarity to the prior ever done. So I believe that it is consistent.

7:30 – 8:070

You concur the motion. Second roll call vote to adopt the resolution provided for this evening uh for this particular ordinance 2026 20 41. I make a motion that we approve the resolution finding that uh amended ordinance 2026 2041 is consistent with master plan second. Thank you Mr. Graham. Yes. Mr. Malia. Yes. Mr. Morrison. Yes. Mr. Sasso. Yes. Mr. Trainer. Yes. And Mr. Biano. Yes. The motion carries.

8:07 – 8:570

Okay. So great. Uh then the next time. The next one's a little deéjàu all over again as well because uh this one is a uh Jack did a wonderful job of quickly introducing the amended version of the model affordable housing ordinance and recently based on that. Um but then a few weeks later they came out with a another iteration of the of the new amended version. Uh so Putin as always being a governing body introduced the new newest version. Uh hopefully they've stopped for a while coming out with their rations.

8:58 – 9:370

What's that? But I they have no longer gave us they have no version. I don't but that's what happened when so snatch the model I will say the I don't took a look at it. It's a pretty long it's a lot of it sort of reiterates what the statute says but to our to the conversation last meeting about what do you do if it's you know it's a it's an uneven number. like you know you're supposed to buy like 3.3 affordable housing units you can now I think it's correct me if I'm wrong

9:34 – 10:160

but you have the option of either if it's above 0.5 you round up below 0.5 they you can either round the developer can either round up and provide an additional unit or they have to pay the percentage if it's like.3 they would pay.3 of whatever the development fee is for like one of Yeah, but I think the payment of the fractional unit. Yeah. Is out and I have situations calculated and the fractional unit is determined I mean it's the concept right that determines the who determines the value.

10:14 – 10:420

Oh the value I think is set by statute right? Yeah, it's like one unit is like right now I think it's like 225,000 or something like that. Do the math. Yeah, it's like one somewhere between like 175 and 225. They either build I guess the actual unit, not extra room but the whole unit. Thank you. Or they and Lou so our favorite of the unit.

10:40 – 11:210

Yeah. So the value is set by statute and then that is there and the guidance unless the is the council allowed to um forgo the uh co-a amount I mean portable housing amount and like like Palmer was or you do a payment low construction. Yeah. They allow that. Does the developer agreement still have that? I think in connection with the redevelopment agreement, you you can do that. Well, that's outside of the ordinance. So, this will just be a straight up zoning issue. Someone comes in. Okay. So, this may not even apply to

11:19 – 11:550

correct. So, you know, like the council does an area in need of redevelopment, then there's a redeveloper agreement and then the redeveloper agreement is its own zoning essentially and um could essentially override the statuto house. Well, just seems like that could have some stuff to be aware, right? Yes.

11:52 – 12:160

So that this is of course the the administrative regation for a collection and payment of you know development fees and administration of the portal house. validation. It's not tight for any particular potential site or anything.

12:13 – 12:540

It doesn't it doesn't differ from your previous affordable regulation a whole lot. I mean the the main changes that the DCA and fair share housing center argued about were the definitions um the slight tweaks that that fair share wanted to the definitions and things and the options surrounding the options of fines and imprisonment so much and this also where the 15 went to 20 but universal so that's the the mandatory set of such and that's not included in here. This is this includes development fee.

12:52 – 13:040

No, but I thought this embraced it includes because we you know 20% regardless of rental or Oh, yeah. That that is a change in the forground versus

13:07 – 13:310

Okay. any other and so this is the implementing tool that your housing plan already stated that you've already adopted two weeks ago and so I believe that this is consistent with so it's not inconsistent

13:28 – 14:020

I think we might even bold I think we went right to the affirmative system nothing wrong with that the the u uh you can You can clear the bar uh by quite a bit if you want. And here we did it with a consistent superbly consistent same thing. It's a resolution. You can vote in second or vote. If you concur or even concur with the opinion of your plan, I'll just I'll stick the word not in there. If you don't, whatever the right word, but you know, negative.

14:00 – 14:450

Yeah. I I'll make a motion that the board approve the resolution uh confirming that ordinance 26 203 is consistent will be yes second so thank you Mr. Graham yes Mr. Malia yes Mr. Morrison yes Mr. Sassa yes Mr. trainer. Yes. And develop. Yeah. Do we go back to the governing body with the March 16 dead? I think we have a special meeting Monday night. Two days. Yesterday.

14:44 – 15:290

Special meeting Monday night. Literally, it should be five minutes. It's just a That's true. It is an open It is an open meeting, but there's nothing else on other than what we see ordinances. Oh. Uh, no resolutions, right? Um, adoption. No. Okay. No hearings. So, we have um discussion and review items. This recreation and open space master plan. settled. Yeah, we put that on before I knew whether or not we were going to have anything else to review and then I because I just didn't want to leave it off in case we did, but I don't think we do yet.

15:270

You want to You're further along than I am. So, you want to give your initial comments?

15:32 – 16:190

Initial comments is um there's a lot of content that's extremely difficult to follow. I read it page for page on the plane uh this week but couldn't was having a very difficult time to take away from it what the actual action plans were besides chapter 8 and chapter 9. Um I think if we rearrange the content not saying get rid of it but it's there there's a chapter regarding the surveys done with the town which led to that belongs in an appendix in the back. need the so what of hey this is what we would like to do and this is our action plan to get there should be in the front

16:17 – 16:590

in my opinion um so you'll lose the reader and then with reference points to the back so I think it's it's a very it's a workable document it just needs to be rearranged completely yeah there's a lot of redundancy too it tends to be the which is sort of my intent like well here's the summary so they kind of drag stuff forward it's It's so cumbersome. It's so cumbersome that it almost defeats the purpose that people aren't going to refer to it. Like we were talking beforehand about, you know, the next park, you know, so we heard about the council mess. It's potentially they're going out here

16:56 – 17:390

and like no one even looked at this plan like see like you know is it consistent with that? Is there some idea good ideas in there that can put right here because partially because I think I would read like doesn't know exists or it's like they start looking like four years ago. So it's a set of people anyway. Yeah. And it's totally like the beginning of it. It's like all co it's like heavy heavy COVID discussion. So it it should be cleaned up a little bit and then as you said I think rearranging stuff and the other thing that that I didn't realize in reading it myself until I plugged it into AI and asked it some specific question it's it's supposed to be reviewed every single year

17:37 – 18:100

which my understanding if we haven't looked at it since 2021 or presented it likely hasn't happened right um but that would take away or take care of a lot of the concerns about the sequencing and the tiering or what needs to be done like for example the a lot of the stuff that's in there now has been completed already. Yeah. Um but completed in such a way that some of the other goals for some of the parks become more expensive or cumbersome. Yes. Um, but if it was reviewed every year,

18:09 – 18:310

well, that really should be the rec committee's job to review it every year and do most of the heavy lifting and just kick it over to the planning comm. And then you take a look at it and say, "That's what doesn't actually update it every year, but there's there's just saying review the thing. It's got capital plans and

18:28 – 19:180

expectations." I think the monetary stuff is a movie. But I like your idea. I mean, if we put it up towards the front, the so what portion and the sequencing and tearing with just a table that gets updated every year as you complete things that provide a little bit more guidance and understanding for the public. I think we have to I I agree with the um concept of the survey and so forth except you kind of have to um gel out the overarching uh opinion of survey. In other words, you have to extract that. If you got to put it in the back, you still have to extract it. I mean, always, okay, here are the top five things, you know, that people were asking for. um

19:15 – 19:470

which was trails, you know, the town's still doing I received a lot of surveys from the town regarding what they want in that year. Am I wrong? What what they what's important to them and if I recall correctly, some of these surveys in the last year or two have been like, "Hey, what changes do you want in your town, which include parks?" They do these like Yeah. They started doing these flash these flash surveys, right? Yeah.

19:44 – 20:220

So they did long for this part fine but again it should you know like that should that's one data point I think it should still be consistent with you know this plan which there was a lot of work I mean they did talk to a lot of people did a lot of surveys and stuff like that. So I don't think we should, you know, throw up the throw maybe even the bath water, right? But I think if we could just streamline it, get to the heart of it, make it a more workable document so people could read 15 pages in there. Yeah, they're okay. You know, the essence of what the strategy is, you know.

20:20 – 20:590

Um the other thing that that as you you know that was that every time they get to a park, they say, "Well, the first thing is you need to do a master plan for the park." You know, basically here and and that's interesting. That seems like a little system. Yeah, pretty new park. I guess nerv would be a good example. Yeah, it is doing you know lots of things. Yeah. Um but you're right. They really didn't obviously didn't look at the survey and one of the as an example one of the misses is the uh the dog park. Yeah.

20:55 – 21:380

And um when you write a portion or a lot of it could be parking they wouldn't have necessarily the parking issue because it's a thing you know as opposed to let's stay or something. So I think the other one was um the I think it's like number wanderers the trails stop which in terms of more act well then there was also like a performing like a place for people to play music and kind of like a almost like a I pictured like a little tiny version of like an amphitheater out an outdoor venue where people you know and then they were back to the line but then they said don't

21:36 – 22:100

wait like if you do that on Saturday though like this this this lot's not going you use much on the Saturday. So, you just have to like do it when there is there is a sidewalk out in front of us, right? And we're actually we were just talking a couple weeks ago about looking potentially if you could put um parallel parking along to here. So, you might be able to get like 15 or so parking spaces,

22:07 – 22:490

right? But yeah, that's important. Parking and and dog park. It was as far as the check boxes. It was like, you know, they had the list of all the different types of facilities and how many people, you know, you need one of these if you got 10,000 people, right? You know, okay, do we check the box or not? You know, one of the things that we didn't check the box on, which seemed to be easy, was the dog park. I always thought that personally that range press would be a reasonable dog. That's an great idea. I I every time I drive by there I feels like a it could be better

22:50 – 23:240

Crest on Mount Ary as you come from the south into Bernardsville on the right hand side is Marine Crest Park. Yes. kids go to dirt bikes back. Yeah, but then public works has been dismantling the one use. Yeah, it could be that too, you know. It's just if it's if public says hell no, there not going to be bike trails there, then well, what could

23:22 – 23:410

it's really not a park. It's it's just space. It's a little forest. It's right next to the screen. It's a forested and still You have to go streets.

23:47 – 24:150

Almost like a couple know the names of the streets. Exactly. Kind of what they're saying. I want you just to look at that space and seriously once you got the checkbox what do we need? Oh, we had a dog. Okay, what do we need to be able to implement that if you didn't want to do that at that because that is very

24:15 – 24:510

so and it wouldn't need a whole lot of targeting. I think that would be the other aspect of it. Not that there isn't space not some trees but anyway uh what else? I mean I I found typos and stuff about like through 502 instead of 525. Um there is a lot of the co stuff in there and so do if we're do we want to try to deccoize it? I started that's what I started doing. It's relatively easy to set up.

24:50 – 25:420

It's like it's like because it's like a it'll be like a paragraph that just so you just take out that paragraph. It still flows fine. Still makes sense. without the explicit reference that still follows. So that's what I started doing is like okay I was just technically both you guys what have you done you absorb it red lining it on PDFs pretty important and share words on PDF the other thing I mean I know there are sometimes you can scan a page and it'll throw it into word give you the right fonts and stuff like if I didn't have time to go to the word I know that like mine sort of wasn't that like this is like

25:40 – 26:200

now are you a PDF? Yeah. So I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what the most like if you want to get it into a PDF form. Okay. Just to get it on the web, right? Can it be uploaded to a AI tool? depends on this. There you go. I I just the the mechanics of we kind of have to figure that out because we will have to get it into a form that changes a long discussion. It's proprietary.

26:20 – 26:310

Yes. You're going to go the source.

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If it was a lot of work, it's like someone's going to have to type it all in or speak it into something, you sit there and say, "Well, should you just pay them and, you know, buy the buy the source?" But, um, it sounds like we have a way better. I know enough to rely on what else.

26:57 – 27:420

Do you want to like start like reordering it and then we can then incorporate my just more like red line? I mean, I'm not like adding anything. I'm literally like striking stuff that I think is like not relevant and um you know is superolous. So then I I can just kick that over you or whatever. I can just incorporate it in and you rearrange it. It works. What are you going to work on? Is that called I have a pretty uh I have a PDF um not I might be able to do it when I get home local PDF or something there.

27:39 – 28:120

Uh movie it's more of a designer director's tool. It's pretty it's pretty adept at converting PDF other formats. Cool. I found one way to get it even out of Adobe was to I think I mentioned this was to highlight the section and then say translate. Don't translate it to English. Here it is. You could just cut and paste it right out. No problem. American like oh that's interesting. Oops.

28:09 – 28:470

But uh I didn't translate it to Spanish and then back you know just do but uh yeah it can do it. the formattings potentially. I'll give it a shot too. I'll give it a try to recogn this morning from um Rob Wilson from state. Yes. Um and Sherry called me also.

28:44 – 29:280

Yes. And she she asked me well when she told me she wasn't going to make it tonight, she asked me and I guess there was a little well the question was is is or should he be involved with what's happening now or will he just be part of the implementation after the planning board kind of reworks the document and I think we should take it. It's structurally they're going to try to restructure it. I I told her I thought it would be best that we took the shot at we even without talking took the shot at restructuring it and then gave it to him.

29:25 – 30:000

Yeah. Said what do you think? You know that's what I thought from the beginning. That was my impression that I sharing that thought would be the most efficient way. um probably communicate that. Yeah, I told her that we could work through you would be and she as she would. Yeah, I'll be author and fill her in. Well, and I think she said she was going to watch this later. So,

29:57 – 30:590

yeah. Yeah. Um All right. There are the thing that I mentioned that keeps in mind in the structure guys is that there were things that the recck department like dev valued or deemphasized and and we had to decide well they kind of shifted it out of the table. Do we have to have text for it? And then there was the whole wheel of how was the text which we discussed briefly. Well, is the text just totally redundant? Are you going to be the table or not? But think about that. I think if you're going to like restructure it as more of a strategic plan and then it even mentions this like sort of annual review and that can be sort of more of a tactical yearly plan. So we just take whatever the rec department did and just use that as my like 2026's like most recent

30:56 – 31:260

position. Yeah. Yeah. No, I just meant from the standpoint of the board. Yeah. Well, just look. All I'm saying is consciously and if it means that we're going to have to take words away from the words because they're going away, we may have to drop them into the sanity of the table. Okay. So just consider that as a function.

31:23 – 32:050

Um we did earlier discuss on this. We discussed the survey and um there's an awful lot of stuff on u there's a whole section that seems it is very boilerplate. You know this is a national board. You know here the the um Gomics all uh demographics demographics and and look at that as a way of should that just be in the back. Yeah. I'm just thinking of those

32:07 – 33:060

up front you know these are the prior class thing you can see the whole list you know section I think I think the the burnsville surveill the one that they did which is a more robust surgeon than just like the need I think it is necessary is is illuminating And it's also reassuring I think to the general public in the sense that I think that there's this talk track of being you know you know not listening to us and he's like no there's a comprehensive survey but syndrome has a chance so I I agree maybe maybe it doesn't go in the front but I think it's important to what he's saying too if you start with an introductory section summarizing the whole thing but you bring in all those surveys plus 20 survey and just say, "Hey, it's consistent. These are the things that the public wants that."

33:06 – 33:460

Right. Right. I think the only thing that I saw that's kind of radically changed, you brought it up actually, is that the drawing for 271 has like all these facilities, you know, it's like here's where the auditorium's going to be and over here's going to be all this stuff. It's kind of like boy, they really pivoted around that and 271 mind. It was going to be that's where the amphitheater is going to be, you know, had the whole big page that laid everything out

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and there's there's been work, but it's that's like well no just that's where a number of things will be said. We need to reconcile that. Yeah. Possible. You know, just just one of the points to go through as you're trying to organize this is keep keep in mind that area. Um, uh, just one thought when you, you know, when they talk about an amphitheater, one of the things you can do, and I've seen it done in other towns, is a portable stage.

34:17 – 34:340

You just do a trailer and I use Rena, too, but you can buy them, you know, trailer and it's got the covers and the lights and everything on it. You could take it anywhere, you know. I'm a big fan of stuff.

34:38 – 35:030

So, it could start by running one, but we could then plan ahead and say maybe if we get enough activities planned and so forth, it's kind of if you have something, they will come. Yeah, you could also consider if when you do nervine, think about access like how would I get a portable stage in out of it, you know, like

35:01 – 35:450

there was a tendency to kind of land wide way you kind of have I mean I sort of know the spot is there kind of like having low luck kind of near the stream sit on the hill but yeah you have to get there it's going to be probably budding and Right. Well, there might be a reason to do what we say down a little bit lower along the, you know, if you were if you were doing a stage if you put it along the road, you know, facing it. Yeah. You know, then you had access more than just this road, but you know, something round or whatever. It's part of the planning. Firehouse parking lot that's up on the hill there. Yeah. Decent amount of space.

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Yeah. Yeah. He was there was he was there was kind of testimony street worried about well the one next door. Yeah. But then there's the big one right across the street. Um, anything else anyone else doing?

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Our planner, do you have anything you want or to um you guys to look at in that reg? Um I mean we would be happy to to provide recommendations

36:40 – 37:160

right ourselves right so but I mean if you if that's something that we would like for us to to do certain be it Um, my only other thought is that if you need someone to do a lot of formatting, I know there are a lot of burners high school that need volunteer hours. That's not a terrible idea. I just got a good word version.

37:14 – 37:520

It just doesn't move the picture even better. Well, the environmental commission has two high school volunteers that sort of sit on that commission as sort of like informal. I think they're the head of the green team or something at the high school. So, you just like give to them and they find somebody that's junior members and they rotate high schools. I'm not suggesting that good luck. It's you come here. Um,

37:50 – 38:370

okay. So, the key then is focus on the meat guys and then and how do you get it which you already do? You're all going to have to see if there's something that magically does a great job. Are the same I do agree we tend to get lost intermediate sections. I like I like which I've referenced once. like that chart that sort of said this is like how many of these you are to have in a town of 8,000 like you should have those checkpots. Yeah, we've got one.

38:34 – 39:150

Yeah. Or Yeah, it's typically one for 10,000 but checkpoints that might have been like or something. But I think that's helpful to for a reader to see what what the check check boxes are. you have a big I I find it that one's enough and up, you know, in a town this size for a number of these things and every park doesn't have to have like one's enough, you know, and and it it helps shape that, you know, you know, certainly burn down what four times as big as us and they've got one. So,

39:11 – 41:040

now what about the um part of the meat is we have a ton of space to find but it's active parks and it's open space and this is both you know parks and open space and I didn't see as you'd expect much of anything on open space except we have to deal with the inconsistency of Claremont 251 Claremont and um Peter's track, you know, cuz the house is gone and so they're just some easy edits there part. But do we want to what do we want to say about open space? It's cuz it gets religious in a way, you know, it's like it's open space, don't do anything. If you put a sign on it that says it's open space, it don't do anything. But on the other hand, one of the the most important thing at the top are these trails. And so do we like in Peter's track, we say, well, we really should u curate the trails well, you know, or we should have some trails through white or these other open spaces. So it's kind of a strategy. idea and there's there's also this sort of regional when it comes to trails and you know this idea of like connecting trails regionally and you know should I shouldn't call it a pipe dream but the dream long-term dream will be to connect you know so you already have a nice connection on the other side of town going from essentially um the polar grounds like into like Patriots path all the way to Patriots path and you could literally take that grip you know

41:01 – 41:160

50 miles. Um, and so it's more like connecting this side of town to Fargo. Um, so I do think for eating space there should be something along the lines of

41:14 – 42:030

we talked to to the like last year when I was in the environmental commission. It's like you want to you just want to have like kind of like identify potential tracker potential properties that you know could be available at some point in a great way. And for example, one that's kind of obvious to anybody that's not too far from here. Everybody has it on like and so you identify like these are potential open space areas that you know the town should keep an eye on and you know opportunistically if they become available or maybe even actively make an offer. um and have some thinking and prioritization behind it because you don't want to be like too opportunistic or like one random track becomes available up in the mountain and we're like oh let's buy it it's open space and then you deplete your funds

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and then you and then you know it's like great but is anybody ever going to like know what's up there or use it or you know is it going to have any appreciable uh benefit so I think you just keep it as simple it's like you know um you know there should be a list of potential you properties that and or links and that could be links to either part I didn't there's a lot here you're saying yeah but when you're structurally looking at it see if we need we may need a paragraph something saying what he says essentially

42:38 – 43:100

which is open space Wilson let the environmental commission draw that blank and be like if you want to be that way then we could just task them with it. Yeah. What we can do is I'll put in we can put in brackets like you know sort of what I just said couple sentences and then if they want a vision and they want Yes. Exactly. Reaffirm the vision. Yep. Supported by the fact that that people did want those in the surveys I and bring it to the four because

43:07 – 43:400

it may be there just I think it's hidden. Yeah. It's this whole thing is much more about facilities, right? Does the burrow's environmental commission or recreation committee ever confer with adjacent municipalities in terms of linking them? Not not those as far as I know. I think there was discussion but there are like individuals like on those commissions who like

43:39 – 44:150

frequently talk to you either at a county level. So a lot of this occurs at the county level too. Um so they have connect you know they they have people they know like in the county level or you know they just kick these ideas around and I think there are some rudimentary plans like connection plans of like how these things could potentially connect well even in the council you guys are discussing on area sidewalks you know it's like well there should be that weight of someone saying we need to link these things sort of pushes you

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to the implementation of sidewalks instead of saying no legal no it's county that I think where you landed was if the county wants to pay the why don't we I think Nancy we better ask something to do sidewalks yes yes yes we were going to request it um and usually the county says stuff like well you know yes and if you want to do it now you can pay for it or we'll pay for it when next time we go and do some work there so that's another question Uh, I think that's going to be closer to town. I don't think it goes to But they're doing that. They're doing as well. They're not just doing that Nancy. So, no, they're they're doing the rest of that area.

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It certainly makes sense. I mean, there's a weird gap. So, yes, I remember the musky area was stranded, right? And kind of it's just it just like I mean it's it's not connectivity has to all be bringing wood chips, you know. they think they um there's the other aspect just as you're thinking or looking at things of walking trails versus bike trails and there's bike and BMX which they talk about which are a bit different

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but I don't know where the issue I think mostly they're looking for um walking chairs I think and probably parking and restrooms and trail heads and things like that and more bottle fillers and those time will see those time. What else? Any anything else that

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So are you going to carry the torch for Wilson? you know, I'll put in that little I'll put in that thing and then when we kick it over and I'll make a note like, you know, for the environmental commission to to uh formulate a Yeah. And if you see something, you can drag it in. Yeah. Anything that helps try to see what happens against each other, hey, get the contract.

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All right. Any any other um discussion to that? Thank you. One one thing I do notice and Denise, I'm not sure if this is for you, but the on the Burnersville um bureau website, the planning board meetings don't show up on the homepage like do you have to find them in the calendar? No, not in the calendar. No, no, no. If you go on, so there we've had to make a change as to how they would be being put on the website. Okay.

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So if you go on the planning board page, the older applications are listed if you scroll down to the bottom of the page and there is a um a notice there saying all applications received after I believe October 1st. You have to click on a button on either the right or left side of the screen and they're there. Okay. Yeah. Something else. So like if if you go on the home I know it's hard to see on in the town calendar they'll have like the council meetings and things like that. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, ours don't get listed. Yes, they do. What do you mean? What doesn't get listed? The agenda? No, the meetings themselves.

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The meetings themselves. So if you go on the homepage for burnerville.gov On the right hand side is the town calendar and for some reason the party board meetings don't get listed and then I just want to make but if you go on the calendar for each month they're listed. Yes. And so that's an inconsistency schedule.

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What is I don't know if they were. Do you happen to know if they were there in the past? They were last year. They were. Yeah. there. Uh we're actually looking at possibly moving to a different website uh company. So there have been some problems. I don't know if that has to do with it or not. I'll check with Anthony.

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Okay. Yeah. Okay. Um, just let Denise periodic progress making just so she can be aware what's happening or not happening. Okay. So uh let's stop that section for discussion. Uh so board reviews you have um this past that Anderson Hill Road just a minor subdivision just a lot line adjustment right

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just a lot line adjustment the uh the own both lots yeah and they're both in the same zone basically it's not one of those crazy ones No, thankfully. Okay. All right. So, that's coming up. No visitors, no executives after thinking decision. Okay, then we're

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exactly here.

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