Zoning Board - Regular Meeting

Uh good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to call to order the uh zoning board of appeals meeting for uh Thursday, April 9th, 2026. I'm Peter Mccalis. Uh to my very far left is Howard Stern. Thank you.

Rosemary Lee here and Roger Van Lever at my right. We will have one more board member, Meredith Black, who will be joining us uh via Zoom. Um the way we work here is your our office manager, Kim Kowalsski, uh who's here will read the your application and uh please come up to the podium here, introduce yourself and then present for us, uh what it is you want to do. This is a public hearing and so people will have a right to speak on it. um if uh you know when I ask them to speak on it, if you are going to speak on a person's application, please speak to us, the board, and not to the applicant. It's this is not a conversation between you got, you know, the applicant and you it's a conversation between us and you. So, please try to keep it that way. Um Al Sharco, our building inspector, is also here. Um and um I guess with that we'll call the first application.

Ryan and Andrea Ruoko are seeking variance of article 5 section 125-50 of the zoning ordinance for 20 stone paddic place Bedford section block and lot 84.17-1-18.2 2 to permit the construction of a swimming pool where the building coverage results in 3.26% where the existing building coverage is 2.86% and where 3% is the maximum building coverage permitted and where the impervious surface coverage results in 8.21% 21% where the existing imperous surface coverage is 6.16% and where 8% is the maximum impervious surface coverage permitted in the residential 4acre zoning district.

Good evening. Hi, how are you? Andrew here and Matt's on the Zoom. Hi Matt. I think we were uh you're you're a carryover from our last correct meeting and um you've come back lowering the we asked you to take a look and see what you could cut out in terms of the impervious surface correct and if I'm not mistaken although I don't see it here that you you come below that now that 7.99%. Yes. So we no longer need a variance like that for the pool. Exactly. Um we didn't have any problem with the pool. Okay. Can you tell us how you resolved that uh with are you saying with the 8%? Yes.

Yes. So we took your feedback and instead of having paver and Matt you can jump in here too but we we put in large format pavers with gravel instead and shrunk some of the other um stone area and I think he'll do a flash of this plan. Uh, but we're a little more creative as you guys suggested we be and we were able to get under that 8% so we no longer need that specific. Matthew, did you use porous papers or what what did you what did you What we did was we reduced uh there was an area of patio in this section right here that we removed. Can't hear. It's a little hard to hear you. Can you guys hear me?

We can hear you. It's just little muddled difficult. Yes.

Um, so I apologize I can't be there tonight. Um, I just wrapped up another meeting. The the patio was reduced by approximately 395 square ft to get under the 8% lot coverage um threshold. And we did that by reducing uh the patio in this area. We removed a portion and this walkway was replaced where it was previously just um you know a continuous paper walkway. We replaced it with paper stones with open joints between them. Um same thing in this location with uh gravel open joints between the paper stones and reduced the coverage accordingly associated with that. We also eliminated a section of the walk between entirely and turn it all gravel. uh based on the comments from the board at the last meeting, we thought it was uh a simple fix and we were able to get under that 8% number.

We greatly appreciate your accommodating that reduction in the imperous surface. I wanted to know uh whether you looked into other porous pavers like uh I had done some work on looking into it for hydro pavers but this was a good solution. You just eliminated the hardcape around the pavers and and did that reduction. Yes. Very good. We're glad you took that creative and um work under underway. Thank you. Thank you for the Did we keep the public hearing open? I don't recall and I had notes but I think I left them in my desk.

Okay. Was there anyone that wanted to speak on this application hearing? No. When can I have a motion to close the public hearing? Well, so I I have one Well, you can talk afterwards. I'm closing the public hearing. Sorry. Can I have a motion? I'll make the motion to close it. Can I have a second? Second. All those in favor? I public hearing's closed, please. No, I was just curious. Um, just looking at the the drawing, whether I'm looking at the right drawing. Is that the older one? Okay. Yeah, it's not. I'm looking on the one online. the paper one. Okay. Did you have a date on that one? You want to see this one? Yeah. I'll give you this.

He doesn't That was the original comments. 327. This is the comments. Okay. That he has the original. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is the one that's correct. That's just not um

Okay. No, there's no more discussion. I'm going to make a motion that we approve the um application as noticed um without the need for a um imperous surface since they've reduced they took our suggestion and reduce down the impervious surface to you know below the 8%. Um approving the pool and it's uh what they would like to do um cannot be sought by another means feasible and it's a good location on their property. Uh there will be no undesirable change to the character of the neighborhood or detriment to nearby properties. The variance requested is not substantial. The variance requested will not result in any adverse physical or environmental effects on the neighborhood or community. And while the alleged difficulty is self-created and it's only one of the factors to be considered by the board in making its decision, it's not uh determinative. Approval of the proposed variance would be subject to the following conditions. The applicant shall use their best efforts to ensure that a building permit is issued within one year of the board's approval of this variance and then dil diligently pursue such construction to completion. I'm sure you want it for this summer. So I hope you'll get

might not have it for this summer, but hopefully at all the hardcapes and and the the difficult stuff will be done. The applicant shall submit a certified asbuilt survey including building and impervious coverage calculations to the building department prior to the issuance of a CFO and the variance is granted in accordance with the plan submitted to the board dated 32726 dated 2325 submitted to us. Well, this is this is the this is the revised one, right? I'm just saying it was they're just saying plans were dated. I'll second that. Mr. Stern, yes. Ms. Lee.

Yes. And I'd like to express our gratitude for you to undertake the reduction in the impervious service which eliminated the variance and we really support that as candidates come forward for variances. Thank you for all the suggestions, Mr. Dan Lin. Yes. Mr. Malis. Yes, you've got it. Thank you so much, Miss Rugoff. Take Thank you. Very grateful. If you take the extra plans, you won't need them. Yeah, you might want them. Thank you. Good luck. Thanks, Matt.

I should mention that um we've all had in um in in in doing our work here, we've all had an a chance. So, I don't know that everybody has, but we've all had a chance to go out and see your uh your your applications. Um I know I spent most of today going to the various application locations. So, I'm sure others did as well. Our next one, please. James Deet Deetto. I'm sorry about that. Okay.

Is seeking a variance of article 3 section 125-11 and article 5 section 125-50 for 452 Pound Ridge Road Bedford section block and lot 85.7-4-5 to permit the construction of a one-story addition for a kitchen expansion to a pre-existing legal non-conforming residence which was granted a variance in 2004 resolution 04. 4043 and where the proposed addition results in a front yard setback of 39.5 ft where 75 ft is required in the residential 4acre zoning district and where the building coverage results in 4.0% where the existing building coverage is 3.85% 25% where 3% is the maximum permitted building coverage in the residential 4acre zone in district and where the existing propane tanks are 40 ft from the front property line and the existing generator is 60 ft from the front property line where 75 ft is required in the residential 4acre zoning district.

Good evening. Good evening. My name is Paul Van Lint. Roger. Paul just the same. Didn't recognize you earlier. Sorry. I had a haircut for today. Yes, I did. It looked like that before.

Almost exactly. Maybe a little grayer. Um, I am representing uh James and Donna Deetto in a rather modest uh kitchen expansion. Um the reasons for this are uh clearly um because their existing kitchen is not very useful and it is a traffic area. It connects the front door, the original front door of the historical house, the upstairs staircase and everybody really has to travel through the kitchen. I believe that we have uh done our best to make the very minimum expansion required to have a working kitchen where working in the kitchen is not um encumbering a passageway, a hallway. Um

can I interrupt you for just one second? Sure. Uh Peter, Meredith is apparently waiting to be let in. I hope she went through the right link and uh it I think she's probably on the old link. She needs to go to the new agenda and become a request to be a participant. Okay. Panelist can text her. She's not waiting here. Okay.

Quite all right. Um I I think the drawings are self-explanatory. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them. regarding the uh generators, tanks, and uh AC units on the property. All of these uh items are pre-existing nonconforming. Um and we are perfectly happy to have them normalized and receive a variance for them. But uh the law the language of that law was um local law 7 of 2020 four I believe. Uh and all of these um all of these structures were installed in 2025. So they're installed 20 years ago. Okay, just give me one second here. I just wanted to make a note that you have two neighbors, the Dover family and the Weld family has submitted letters of support.

Thank you. Yeah, the problem is they didn't put their address. No address. Yeah, one of them put their address. Oh my god. Can't believe this. First one is 460. I I don't think it's necessary for the record that they get. We get the address. I don't know what it is. No, it'll just be listed in record. No, you want the address. You want the address of the res? Yeah.

One of them is missing. He thinks it's should go in the record. It's It's again using uh an email. Oh, now I see. Put it on mute. Wow. This address is ridiculously long. Yeah. Well, she can go to the to the website and just click on the link. Oh. For the at the agenda where the agenda is, there's a click on at the agenda.

Z. He's typing SR X W. Well, I'm a little confused about the the propane tank and the generator because you mentioned that. Was that flagged by Al? Was that flagged by you or was you just mentioning it? Well, um it it is part of the variance. It was flagged on the variance. Okay. Um, it's just that at the time, and we're perfectly fine with it, I hadn't chance to research the law because we had a uh a time limit for submitt, right?

Um, I only did that afterwards, but uh they are in the they're shown in the proper location and variance is welcome. Yeah. Okay. I I I understand now. So, it's advertised. So it's Pardon me. It's advertised. So it's all part of the application. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I I get it now.

Wow. This variant since 2000. No. No. We're Mr. increase the morally. Where are the propane tanks? They're behind the garage. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, that's a logical location. Yeah. Gotcha. I mean, would they would they apply for And I believe that would approve of anyway regardless.

Sure. I didn't realize that was part of it. I thought Yeah. Yeah.

Behind the garage. The overhang is going up. Nice.

No, it doesn't work. Okay, that's great. This all happened after the That's not working. If you go to the town, it all ties in nicely.

Where' she go to on the 10 to meeting agendas? Go to zoning board. Meeting agenda. Zoning board. When she opens up the agenda, there's a link at the top. There's a link at the top. Join register. and register. Did you have the register part

says the meeting's in progress, right? But she has to request to attend. There's a registration link. She has there's apparently there's a registration button or something. You got to find the registration because you have to register. Yeah. Top of links is bury the top apparently the top of the link and then she has to select the meeting the welds and the letter in there. Yeah. 463 but it's not on the letter today. I'll take a look again. Do you have an address? Yeah. I don't have it in front of me so I can't help you.

2002. So we've been neighbors for a while. It's good to have good neighbors. You can make your life as we see as we've seen.

My neighbor is also Peter, can you look and see if she's in there? Watches my house. He goes away. I watch his house. Meredith Black. Not yet. Not yet. Oh, you have it too. Meredith doesn't have to be here for vote. Want to resolve this before she I don't do it. Resolve what? We didn't vote on this. No, not yet. I went to the agenda. The agenda. Okay. I'm going to have to hang up and see what you can try. Okay. Bye.

Um Thank you, by the way, for staking out the front. When I drove up, you could see where the addition is going to go. Um, that was helpful. Um, is there anyone that wanted to speak on this application or had a concern about it? We, as um, Rosemary pointed out, we do have two letters in favor, uh, from one neighbors on either side, I think, and apparently someone's a very good cook. Um I think they're looking for a a dinner. Oh, thank you. Dinner. Exactly. Um if hearing that no one wanted to speak on the application, do I have a motion to close the public hearing?

All those in favor? I public hearing is closed. Any more discussion here?

I have no uh Rosemary, you want to make a motion? Yes, the town of Bedford uh zoning board of appeals has reviewed the application for 452 Pound Ridge Road, James Bedto, and determined that um this uh benefit related to this application that is being sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by another means feasible to the applicant. There will be no undesirable change to the character of the neighborhood or detriment to the nearby properties. In addition, uh at least two neighbors have submitted uh letters of approval and uh no no problem with this uh with this uh revision in their property. The variance requested is substantial. However, that is not uh the only aspect that we consider when we review and and uh decide on these on these uh variances. The variance requested will not result in any adverse physical or environmental effects on the neighborhood or community and the alleged difficulty is self-created but that's one of the factors that we consider by the board in making a decision and it is not determinative. Approval of the proposed variance would be subject to the following conditions. The applicant shall use their best efforts to ensure a building permit is issued within one year of the board's approval of this variance and then diligently pursue such construction to completion. The applicants shall submit a certified asbuilt survey, including building and impervious coverage calculations to the building department prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy. And this variance is granted in accordance with the plan submitted to the board which are dated

June 4th, 2025. revised 226, 2026 and received by the board on February 27th, 2026. Thank you. You're welcome. Second that. Mr. Stern, yes. Miss Lee, yes. Mr. Van Lren, yes. Mr. McCllis, yes, you got it. Thank you very much. Appreciate your Thank you. extra plans. store.

You want a couple more plans here? Here you go. Yeah, you take the extra plans. You won't need them. I'm not using my

I say that all the time. Beford Historical Society seeking a variance of article 3 section 125-11 and article 5 section 125-50 of the zoning ordinance for 608 Old Post Road Bedford section block and lot 84.7-1-16 where a variance was granted on November 4, 2015 resolution 11154 to allow 18.61% 61% building coverage on a legal pre-existing non-conforming lot and where the installation of a generator results in 18.79% of building coverage where 6% is the maximum building coverage permitted in the residential 2acre zoning district and where the sideyard setback results in 9 ft 5 in where 13.33 ft is required in the residential 2acre zoning district.

Good evening. Good evening. Glenn Tyers uh representing this project, the historical hall. Um little history on this. This had uh had an approval from the Bedford Village Historic District a while ago. It was a location that was closest to the neighbor to the south. Guess that is. Um when we were asked to take a look at it, I thought there'd be enough room within an area that's currently fenced in um where it's a utility space. There's some dumpsters, some storage of material, but this uh 26KW generator could fit in there. Um so it's basically hidden. It's adjacent to the cemetery. Uh it's about 28 in high. There's a wall adjacent to it. There's a solid wood gate and fencing in front of it and the opposite side there is an existing shed to shield it from any of the neighbors. So, it seemed like a good spot for it. Um, it's also a little bit closer to the building to get uh the utilities to it. Um, so we were hoping to uh to get approval in that location recognizing that it does not meet that sideyard setback. Anyone in the audience want to discuss this? I don't see anybody on Zoom. Have a motion to close public hearing.

I'll make the motion. There's a favor from a resident. I don't get all those in favor. I I public hearing is closed. Um, yeah, there was some there was concern by Peter Kunard who lives right next door where apparently they were originally thinking of putting this uh closer to his house, but now they've moved it away and so he'll he's already happy to know that. Right. So, what's that? Yeah. To let our support thankfully. Exactly. Is this generator sound attenuated or you know, it's in an pretty much an enclosed area. Okay. It's um uh I think it's 67 dB, which is like an air conditioning. You wouldn't hear that over the traffic on the poster.

No. Um and like I say, it's buffered basically on all four sides. So, it shouldn't be bouncing around too much toward neighbors. It'll be drowned out by all the other generator generators running at the same time. Yeah. Now, I'm wondering if they're coming up with technology that's that's reducing, you know, we've seen some generators. It is quieter. The new ones are much quieter. The new ones are quieter. Okay. So, question. I um also will just reiterate that um I think this new location is a much better one as and as I mentioned if it's possible to run a wire to the Bedford, you know, the historical society's offices. You know, I had mentioned that um when we're looking into it, it's a matter of where that wire goes.

Yeah. Cuz it's through the cemetery. Unless we could sneak it around a back. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. You go around the back of it. So you don't inter interfere with anything. No dig. Well, that's the problem, right? What are you doing with all those whiskey barrels? They use them for events. They bring them for patio and they use highs almost like tables. We're going to have to find a new home for those. Exactly. Exactly. Anybody have any problem? No. Howard, you want to do the honors? Sure.

We're honored to do it. Thank you. The Bedford zoning board has heard your application and the board has found that the benefit uh to the applicant by granting the variance outweighs any alleged detriment to the community and determine the following. The benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by another means feasible to the applicant and there will be no undesirable change to the character of the neighborhood or detriment to the nearby properties. uh and the variance requested is actually I don't believe substantial um but the variance will not result result in any adverse physical or environmental effects on the neighborhood or community and the alleged difficulty is self-created but generators are a necessary part of American life today in my opinion but that is only one of the factors to be considered by the board in making its decision and is not determinative Approval of the proposed variance will be subject to the following conditions. Applicants shall use their best efforts to ensure that a building permit is issued within one year of the board's approval of this variance and then diligently pursue such construction to completion. Applicant shall submit a certified asbuilt survey including building and impervious coverage calculations to the building department prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy. The variance is granted in accordance with the plans dated 22626 allotted twos and submitted to the board received March 3rd 2026. That is my motion. I'll second that.

Mr. Stern, yes. Miss Lee, yes. Mr. Van Lren, yes. Mr. Malis, yes. You got it. Thank you so much. Extra plans. That's my name. I'll see you at the West Morland.

That's a familiar face. You've been You've been before us before. You may hold the record. It's okay.

It's all good. Troy Atkinson is seeking a variance of article 5 section 125-50 for four 51 Lakeside Drive Kona section block and lot 60.5-1-10 to permit illegal pre-existing non-conforming detached garage shed where the front yard setback resulted in 34.3 ft where 35 ft is required and where the sideyard setback resulted in 13.2 2 ft where 30 ft is required and where the combined sideyard setback resulted in 57.40 ft where 60 ft is required in the residential 1acre zoning district. That's my application.

Good evening. For the record, Steven Helms with the Helms Group. Uh not sure if my client is on Zoom tonight, Troy and Jessica Atkinson. Uh not sure if you all visit the site. uh was there today. It was confusing today. Yeah, there's an addition going on now which totally complies with the code uh for the 1acre zone. Uh we got that building permit. That construction is well underway. Um but back in 1976, uh there was a garage on the property 50 years ago. It's a small garage shed up in the front. It's uh like about a foot shy of the front yard set back. It's the green one you're talking about, right?

Yeah. It's 13 ft from the property line. redesigned the addition to conform to the setbacks. The sideyards are 30 and 30. Our combined sideyard I thought when I filed it conformed. However, the building inspector brought Mr. Alco brought to my attention that we have to count the accessory structure which is the closest structure to the property line and our right side yard setback which adds up to 57.2. So, we are shy by a few feet. Uh so, we want to legalize that. That structure does have a valid CO. It's built in 76. The owners would like to retain it. Uh it's used for gardening equipment. I don't think they put a car in there. I don't think a car would fit in there. They do have a two-car garage. Um I'm not sure. I don't think it uh you know, it's a a detriment to any of the neighbors in that area. Uh it is set back a little bit from the road. It's tweaked a little bit, so it's not such a prominent thing. And um we're hoping that we can uh get the variance to uh legalize not to legalize it, but to get the variance so we do not have to remove the the uh shed slashgrowth. That adds value to them. Um and uh we're here tonight to seek the variance of a 2.6 encroachment on a combined sideyard of 60 ft. Um I know my client was proactive. He sent out I sent out the public notice. He also put a copy of the addition and a paragraph. So that went to all the neighbors within 500 ft I believe. And I'm not sure if there's any letters on file that came in Kim since uh we filed.

Don't we believe so? Um so uh again they would like to maintain they would like to keep it if they can. Uh um okay and uh that's our request and we did have an asbuilt survey recently done to make sure we have the proper setbacks and the number so we don't have to come back to your board in the future. So uh that was done and submitted. That's where we're at tonight. Um Al did you have some other question? Okay. Do we know the age of the garage structure? The garage is 76. 196 50 years ago. Yeah. 1976. It's been there a long time. Yeah.

I I I think uh my clients uh Jessica, her mother or someone might have owned the house prior and so it's got some sentimental value to them. Um that's just 50 years ago. It's built also into the hill. So it's kind of a low structure. Yeah. And u it's it's needed. Is there anyone that wanted to speak of this application in the audience or on the Zoom call? Seeing and hearing no one. Can I have a motion to close the public hearing? All those in favor? I public hearing is closed. Any discussion? No. Yeah.

Roger, you want to make a motion?

I'll make a motion to approve the uh application for the um legalizing of the um the garage um variance. Um, in particular, the board found that the benefit to the applicant by granting variance outweighs any alleged detentment to the community and and determined the following. The benefit sought by the applicant cannot be achieved by another means feasible to the application and there will be no undesirable change to the character of the neighborhood or detriment to the nearby properties and variance requested is not substantial and the variance requested will not result in any of Earth's physical or environmental effects of the neighborhood and community. Um this is a pre-existing garage that um has been um is not uh conforming in in uh in setbacks but is legal. Um and this was brought about by a application for an addition that is fully conforming in all of its um uh dimensions and coverage except for the combined um sideyard setback um between the garage and the house. So the uh alleged difficulty although itself created by virtue of causing this application to happen that's not the only factor uh to be considered by the board in making its decision is not determinative. Approval of the proposed variance would be subject to following conditions. Application applicants will use the best effort to ensure the bill and permit is issued. follow the

permit for the addition to the house is already issued um and pursuing such construction to completion. The applicant shelves submit a certified asbuilt survey including the building and the impervious coverages calculations to the building department once the all the the work is done. Um and that the variance is granted in accordance with the plan for the for the the site plan for the house edition and garage submitted to the board dated 22426 in very small lettering and apparently the filing of the application was March 3rd 2026.

I just want to mention that this is a pre-existing legal structure so they don't need a building permit. Okay. It already has a CO. Exactly. Just the added value. Yes. Yeah. I can Well, we'll need that. It'll still be a condition, but you'll just make sure we get that. I'll give it to you now. There may be a problem. No one's coming in. That's what I'm saying. You can't you can't get in at all. That's why I drove down. Well, we're glad to see you. We got somebody else in. I'll second it. I know. Mr. Stern. Yes. Miss Lee. Yes. Mr. Van Loverin. Yes. Mr. McCallis. Yes. You got it. Great. Thank you.

Mr. Mr. Helms, can you have your people when they print these up make the dates and stuff a little larger? Kind of hard to read. I had to take a picture of it and then enlarge the picture. Thank you. I know. I have one. Well, no. We'll just have them superimpose it and make it larger at some spot. Save paper. The senior board members. Senior board members. Yes. Thank you. We have two glasses down there. Are you still up? No, no.

Meredith, while we're waiting for um I just going to mention that um because you were the one that brought up asked or asked the u first applicant uh from last meeting if they could reduce the size of the impervious surface around the pool. They did and to the point where it's under they didn't need a variance anymore. And so they brought it down to 7.99%. Excellent. And we approved it.

Excellent. 606 North Bedford Road LLC is seeking a variance of article 11 section 125-120B1 and 125 attachment one schedule of permitted signs of the zoning ordinance for 606 Bedford Road Beford Hills section block and lot 72.5-1-41 in the roadside business zoning district to allow a total of three signs where a maximum of two signs is permitted in the roadside business zoning district and where the installation of a 22 square ft facade sign Bedford Hills has lettering 16 in in height and whereas a 6.74 square ft facade sign GMC has lettering 1 foot 1 in and 1 and 38 inch in height and where 12 in is the maximum permitted letter height if a fixed less than 100 ft from the center line of the nearest road in the roadside business zoning district.

I apologize. I hope I didn't you didn't get an angry call from the the manager of the GMC. Cuz I stopped in there to see what he was and he had no knowledge that was going on and he had a dentist to bore a doctor's appointment this evening. Yeah. We got it handled. That's what I figured. So, uh, my name is Tim Bch. I'm from Science, Inc. Sign Company. And basically what we're proposing, there was already a name that's on there prior that it says veil. So basically we're just asking for a name change. I guess the zoning changed from uh three signs to two signs. Is it basically everything else is staying the same? It's just a name change.

Let me just There was a little There's a little one that's in the front. Yeah, that's that's the the uh the roadside sign. That one stays that stays. Okay. The GMC on the building stays. Yeah. And where it says veil, it's going to say Bedford Hills. Just Bedford Hills is what you're looking for. That's all we look for. Bedford Hills. Okay. That's it. That's it. So this everything else is the same sizing. Everything stays the same. Everything stays the same. So you just have to come for a change in name. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird because the zoning I guess changed from two. No, they had to come allow three signs and they changed it to two. So that's why to come here and the letters are the same size. Yes. That's what they changed. Yeah. The GMC is not changing. No, no,

nothing's changed. So, it's just same size letters. Goes from B to Bedford Hill. Oh, two words. Yeah. Two words instead of one word. What are they considered in third sign? Yeah, there's one by the There's a little one out that's out on the road, which you can't see, but it's it's it's within code. I mean, the GMC is smaller than the 12 in and everything. We included the the um GMC sign because we I don't think there was a sign permit to change it from the Buick to this one and there wasn't a variance for that. Basically, they're asking for three signs, but two of them are already Buick GMC on the building. Right.

The only thing that that wasn't there was the Bedford Hills when I went by. So that's why included in this. Okay. Is there lettering the same size? The lettering is the same size. Yeah. Oh, just letter. They didn't change the ones out in the road at all. No, just more letters. And they didn't even put Beverly Hills on that. That just says GMC on it. Smalling side. What's existing kind of the veil? 16 in. So, it's the same size letter. Is there anyone in the audience who want to speak on this? Anybody on the Zoom call? Okay. Hearing no one. Can I have a motion to close the public hearing?

I'll make it. Can I have a second? All those in favor? I public hearing is closed. Any discussion? No. No. Want to make motion? Sure. Thank you.

Um I've moved to approve the application. Uh as noticed, the benefits by the applicant cannot be achieved by another responsible for the applicant. In this case, there is an existing sign in that location. They're just doing a name change on it. The fact the name is slightly wronged more um square coverage as a result of the change in the sign, but there's no change in the actual number of signs on the overall site. There are two on the building and one full sign on the site. Um so the benefit cannot be achieved by another means feasible. There'll be no undesirable change to the character of the neighborhood or detriment to the nearby properties. Again, the number of signs is remaining the same on the site. So is the scale of the sign. It's simply that there's a name change and that name happens to be longer. The variance requested I'd argue is is not substantial here given the fact there was an existing sign. All all the signs were existing uh on in the facility in the locations that they are and to the scale that they are. The variance requested will not result in adver any adverse physical or environmental effects on the neighborhood or community. the alleged difficulty is uh is I would say is not self-created but that's only one of the factors to be considered by the board and making its decision is not determinative. Um I say that because again the signs here were existing on the building and they're simply doing a name swap to one of them and keeping the scale consistent with what was previously there. Uh the approve approval of the proposed variance would be subject to the following conditions. The applicant will use your best efforts to ensure their building permit is issued within one year for its approval of the variance and then diligently pursued to construction to completion. Um the I don't think we need an asbuilt survey here for this at all. The variance is granted in accordance with the plan submitted to the board dated

July 15th, 2025 and apparently submitted on March 3rd 26 with the application. Great. Thank you very much. OKAY. MR. STERN, YES. Miss Lee, yes. Mr. Van Lover, yes. Miss Black, yes. Mr. McCllis, yes. Now you got it. All right, guys. Thank you very much. Thank you. Extra. That way, you don't need them. That's what I say every time. If you if you left them, you wouldn't need I know, Jack. I'll give you some. Winter's over. I don't need them in my fire anymore.

Lionw Walk Manor LLC is seeking a variance of article 5 section 125-50 for 28 West Patton Road, Beford Hills. Section block and lot 72.10-1-10 to permit the construction of a 44tx 36 ft garden shed where the building coverage results in 6.2% 2% where the existing coverage is 5.9%. And where 3% is the maximum building coverage permitted and where the impervious surface coverage results in 18.47% where the existing imperous coverage is 19.29% 29% and where 8% is the maximum impervious surface coverage permitted and where a variance was granted in 2023 resolution 4-234 for the existing coverages in the buil residential 4acre zoning district.

Good evening.

Good evening. Um I'm Philip Cheredini. I'm the uh architect for uh 28 West Patton Road. And just a little bit of uh just a brief history. This uh the coverage numbers here are pretty high, but they were high in uh when it was built in 1982 for some reason. The um both the building and the impervious surface were just about what these numbers are today. And uh these people bought it somewhere around 5 years ago or so. and they've been fixing up the property. We've been renovating the house. Um, a lot of uh internal uh improvements, colors, finishes, small family room addition uh a couple years ago, which we uh came to this board for. And now they're uh basically the gardeners and the groundskeepers are complaining that they need someplace to keep the um implements all their tools on the property at 28 and they don't have any place to to store it. And these people would like to put up a shed. Um, which I just showed uh a photo of it there so that you can see roughly what what uh what this thing is going to look like. It's a low profile shed. Um about 14 by 36, 10 ft high. And the way this property rises as you go up the driveway from West Patton Road, you're you're barely going to see this from the road if you do see it at all. might might see a little bit of a point, but uh it's not going to be anything that's really um detrimental to the neighborhood. And um we've been able to keep it within the uh out of the 50ft setback

for the sideyard. So, uh what it becomes is a coverage issue. So, obviously, it's a 500 additional square ft of um a shed. And my thought was uh that would be the the dark brown rectangle on the site plan and then the yellow sort of arc is the impervious Belgian block in front of the drive up at the front door. But before you say this, I've got to get I've got to make sure Rosemary sits down and it's calm. Okay. How did I know my vibe? Um, we want to take up all the BELGIAN BLOCKS.

NO, I SAW a little note in here that you did see the first candidate and how well that went, how smoothly that went through. I am delighted that you've personally come up with some solutions because 19.29% versus 8% with a very very uh long driveway covered uh with Macadam. That looked to me a likely spot to dig up. But tell me your proposal. That yellow spot. We're the yellow spot. We're proposing a 500 ft shed and removing 2,000 ft of um impervious surface removed from from in front of the house. I drove over it today.

Oh yeah, me too. Putting crushed stone back. Okay. So you know it when are you going to be on impervious surface after you reduce it will be the overall impervious will be reduced by uh to 18.82 so it goes from 19.9 to 18.7 or 47 18 can you can you go a little more can you do anything else in terms of the macadam which is 18.29% 29% on the property, you're really maxing out. You know, it they they're suffering with the sins of a of a prior owner. Um

well, you saw earlier there was porest pavers that made a good substitution for uh for a patio. We we could there's an area in if I may there's an area here in front of the uh garage apron. Mhm. probably do something similar to that would be very helpful. And um you know, we just have to come up with something that's that works whatever they have to be taking in and out of the shed gardenwise. I mean, we could probably do 10 15 feet out of that door by 30 ft wide.

I think it all helps because they're really they're really maxing out on the property with the tennis court and the pool and the pool house and Oh, here. Uh, and yeah, I did I did see all the landscapers there, but I I thought that they came with their stuff and then when you know that's usually the way it happens. They have their own uh I think the issue is they they have so much to take care of that they want to be able to store everything there. It's easy it's easier for the uh and they're they're dealing with some other property also because the the h the main house is at on the other is at 44. So, do you have any water issues with the um with the driveway as it obviously slopes down steep slope? You have like

what they do have is good drainage. Okay. There's a lot of uh catch basins all the way down this driveway and everything's pitched so that it does drain off. Well, okay. But this this is actually a problem spot because it's so flat and I personally would rather have it crushed stone so that the water will will permeate into the soil rather than run off. And I don't personally wear high heels, but I know it's okay if you don't have to share that with us. It's okay if you did. That's okay. But but um um you mean Claudette Claudine who owns the house

can't stand them. Uh the not high heels the Belgian block cuz the walk on them when she gets out of the car she can barely get to the front door. So she's happy to see it go. Oh okay. That that would I I think you've searched the the opportunities and you've made the effort. I would find that very acceptable. But I I defer to my my board members. Okay. They may have more. Thank you. Is there anyone in the audience that wanted to speak on this or on the Zoom call? Anyone with high heels that has a problem for hearing? No one. Can I have a motion to close the public hearing? So moved. All those in favor? I I public hearing is closed.

Any discussion? I was there today. They they've already they basically have a parking area in the backside area that's already got the gravel down. It's been ready for this shed to be put there. Um it's it's going to be really innocuous quite frankly um not be seen by anybody. I think it's a very very good mitigation and I'm assuming um while this the picture you gave me isn't the exact shed because he he was saying it was going to more or less match I mean it match the the wood matches the style style and the size. It's just they have the doors in the wrong place. Yeah, the the main the main door is going to be on the long side. Got as it faces the garage. Yeah. No, I didn't have a problem.

Problems.

Then I'll make a motion that we um we we approve the variance as um as noted um um acknowledging that u the removal of the uh stones in front of the driveway or in front of the front of the house u was is a big plus. And if they would continue to look at the area in front of the garage doors in the back um to do the same kind of thing, that would be much appreciated. Um benefits off the applicant cannot be achieved by another means feasible to the applicant and there's a need for the equipment to be stored somewhere. There will be no undesirable change in the character of the neighborhood or detriment to nearby properties. Um in fact, the owner of this property owns the next property. Uh the variance requested is not substantial. Um, I don't believe an advance requested will not result in an adverse physical or environmental effect on the neighborhood or community. The alleged difficulty is self-created, but that's only one of the factors to be considered by the board and making its decision. And that's not determinative. Um, if approved, the applicant shall use their best efforts to ensure that a building permit is issued within one year of the board's approval of this variance and then diligently pursue such construction or the purchase of this shed to completion. Uh the applicant shall submit a certified asbuilt survey including building and impervious coverage calculations to the building department prior to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy. The variance is granted in accordance with the plans submitted to the board dated

August 6, 2025 submitted March 12th, 2026. Thank you. Do we need to add the removal? What's that? Do we need They're going to look at that. Yeah, the removal the removal has already been done the yellow. Yeah, they're going to look into the possibility of doing it in front of the garages. Yes. Oh, I think they're making a commitment. Do you think? Yes. And then the reduction in the impervious surface calculation. Well, they Yeah, that will affect the uh the 18.47 will drop as a result. That and when you do the when you do the reserve survey, they will that will be reflected in there. Yeah.

I need to know what that impervious number is going to be. Say again. I need to know what the impervious. Tell me what the number that was. We don't know what it is now. What it's going to be, but we it will be reflected in the I can I can maybe give you a minimum. We need a number. Okay. All right. 10 300 square ft cuz if I do 10 by 30. So right now you're looking at 18.47. So what's the percentage? Now you're getting into higher math. Now you're And then he's taking off another 300 300 square feet. 300 ft. I I I'd have to run the numbers against the whole uh it'd be minuscule 180,000 square ft. Yeah, it's not going to be a big

maybe 310 maybe 3/10en of a percent less if that much. Could he call that in to you or is it have Well, it's going to be it's going to be reflected in the ne in the final um I need to write a resolution and I need a number of what you're going to permit in impervious. Can you do it's in the 18.47. Um I can I can know I can give them the 18.5 and then and then and then asking for the additional 300 square feet would I mean know to to reduce it's not going to be a problem. It would it will be an advantage. So you want me to grant the resolution at 18.47 with the expectation of an additional what you discussed tonight?

Yes. By additional 300 square feet. Yes. Victory. Don't have to do it for I just need a second here. Oh, I have a second. Second. Thank you, Mr. Stern. Yes. Miss Lee? Yes. Mr. Van Loverren? Yes. Ms. Black? Yes. Mr. McCallis? Yes. You got it. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Please take the extra plans, too. As I say every time, that way you won't need them. Thank you. Here you go. Okay, it is. Thank you.

Thank you. I think there was one. Oh, you put one of those. Oh, okay.

I knew you'd be happy. I told the guy you'd be happy. He came up with that on his own. I know. I think you could have gave me some of my leftover bringing home.

Let's not get carried away. Sean Rooney is seeking a variance of article 3 section 125-27D2 and article 5 section 12550 for 245 Babbot Road Beford Hills section block and lot 60 to11-3-26 to permit the construction of a 40 footx 70t barn and pergola where the barn ground floor area results in 3200 square ft where an accessory structure should not exceed.5% % or 218.02 002 ft of the area of the lot in the village apartment zoning district and where the rear yard setback results in 6 ft where 50 ft is required and where the sideyard setback results in 6 ft where 50 ft is required and where the combined sideyard setback results in 35.5 ft where 100 ft is required in the village apartment zoning district and where the pergola results in a sideyard setback of 10 ft where 50 ft is required in the village apartment zoning district.

Good evening. Good evening. Um I just want to mention the Zoom is not working for my wife to log in and somebody else. Okay. Well, she was but now she she was in a webinar. I see her. No, Jamie Rooney. I see it now. Oh, okay. And then uh Joe Lombardo tried to They have to be a part there. They it's not like the old Zoom where you sit there and everybody sees you. It's a webinar and they're they stay as an attendee and then if they have to speak we make them a participant a panelist and then but they have to do it by raising their hand be a request otherwise they can listen but not participate. Okay that's

they had some issues with a lot of Zoom bombing so they have to remove that. Um good evening chairman members of the board. Can I can I begin? Yes, please, please.

Um, good evening, members of board. My name is Sean Rooney. I am here tonight, uh, well, my wife's on Zoom, uh, at home with my two sons, Brian and Jack. I appreciate your, uh, the opportunity to speak with you this evening. I have been a resident in this town for 16 years, a volunteer firefighter in this town for 13 years. I've also been a New York City off police officer for 13 years and currently in Croin Police Department. Uh I dedicate myself to the village and town where I live. Um I am respectfully requesting a zoning variance to allow me to construct a pole barn style building on my property at 245 Bab Road. My wife's grandparents were the original owners of this property. This property has been in the family for three generations. Before planning this project, I have spent significant amount of time researching similar buildings. While my proposal could be seen as substantial by some, I carefully chose these dimensions that are proportionate to the area of my property and the space in where I want to build and the site where I want to build this. I specifically chose a pole pole barn style building rather than a typical metal structure. While a standard metal structure would have been significantly less expensive by a lot, I chose the poleb barn style design because it is much more aesthetically pleasing. I did not I I do not want to take I'm sorry. I did not want to look at an industrial style metal building and I don't believe my neighbors would either. Although this comes with a much higher

cost, I felt this was important to choose a design that better fits the character of surrounding the surrounding neighborhood. Sorry, this just Okay, my speech just closed on me. Give me one second. No problem. I'm sorry. I printed it out. Um, and my printer ran out of ink 3/4 of the way through, so I do usually don't use my phone. Don't worry. Give me one second. I apologize. All good.

We're no stranger to technical difficulties. Oh, there we go. Now we can All right, let's try this again. Where was I? I apologize. Uh although this comes with a higher much higher cost, I feel that it is an important choice to design that better fits the character of the neighborhood and surrounding neighborhoods. Accessory buildings and garages exist throughout the neighborhood. The following properties on Babbot Road have large large garages/acessory buildings on them. 168 Babbot uh 241 Babbot, 243 Babbot, 253 Babbot. Uh one of which 241 Babbot Road was granted a variance several years ago. I can't remember the exact year it was. Um, that's two houses down from my property. Similar similar variance. I feel my request is consistent with what really what already exists in the area and would not introduce anything unusual. In addition, I I am proposing a second structure as my diagram it's a little smaller than the large print there. Um, which is a woodframed covered pergola. I chose a woodframe covered pergola because I think that would go very nicely to replace my children's swing set. Um it would provide shade for for uh shaded space for family activities, covered space. Um that's a to two different projects, but I wanted to handle them together. Um, my goal with both of these structures, uh, is to improve the property in a

thoughtful and responsible way that respects the surrounding neighborhood. Thank you for your time and consideration. I appreciate the board reviewing my request and we like and we'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. You're welcome. Um, is there anyone that wanted to speak on the uh again can you take a picture? What's that? Yeah, yeah, please. Yeah, just introduce you if you could just introduce yourself first. No, you need to come up to the mic though. Yeah, just so we can record it. Unless you want to hold the mic.

I just want to take a look at it because I haven't seen the plans yet, but My name's Alex Kizo. Uh, my parents own the property next door, 243 Babbot Road. We sent the letter into you um to Ken. I think they forwarded it on to you. We have that. Great.

I appreciate Mr. uh Mr. Rooney's service and his uh things, but you know, we bought this property in 1969. We're friends with his grand with the grandparents from uh Jamie, his wife. We grew up on the property. Bought it when I was three years old. Went through the Beckford school system. I also went to the Westchester County Police Academy back in 1988. So, I hope that has no bearing on anything. The fact that he's a police officer. But the problem that we have with this property is that since Mr. Rooney's been there, he's turned this into a commercial working yard. It's no longer a residential neighborhood like it was when we lived on the property. Um, I sent you some photos that show commercial vehicles up there and it it's now expanding through the neighborhood because it's not just 245 Babbot anymore. Two houses down now. I see all the tree trucks coming in at the end of the day and parking in the back over there with all their tree equipment and chippers and everything else they have back there. I'm not sure if everybody's aware of it, but it's been my view that Beford Hills is being overrun with contractors and contractor yards. If you take the train from Katona down to the city, as you pass through Bethford Hills, all you see is contractor yards that run along the train tracks. That's fine. That's commercial zone areas and that's allowed. That's fine. But this is a residential neighborhood. Not allowed to have contractors up there. I'm not here to address all the dumping that's been taking place on the property up there. I'm just here to address all the contractors that have been using this property. And I'm not really sure what the purpose of this garage is other than a storage place for contractors to keep their equipment or maybe a mechanic shop to stop start working out of there. Not really sure what it's going to be used for, but it's monstrous to start with 6 ft off of the property line. I mean, we have a 50 yard sideyard requirement, 50 50 foot rear yard requirement, and to say you're only going to put this thing up six feet off of the property line. He

mentioned the house at 241 next door to us. I guess got a bearance years ago to put a garage up in the back, but that's not six feet on the property line. It's not even close to six feet to our property line in the back over there. And that yard's not being used as a contractor's yard. There's no equipment up there. There's there's nobody else using it but the homeowner that lives in that house. So, I'm not sure what else to say other than we put in our letter. But you know, there are a lot of issues going on up there that's that are disturbing of what's going on with the property. And it's not like it was when we live there with my parents next door. That's my father.

Yeah. If you could give him the microphone and tell us something about this guy and he comes over here and he say the property that these the same pictures that were these are some additional ones that he after we put the fans up but before we put the fans on he saw me taking pictures of some of Well, we were there. We're We're allowed to go to the property. So, you know that we went there. But it's been cleaned up though. I was there today, so I was there. Let's keep it polite. Let's But the last week, it's been he's been cleaning it up for your uh for your visit.

Okay. It's not that's not the way it's been all these past years. So, whatever he says, just he always says from now, but that's it's completely different what he says. Do we have any idea what this part this car is going to be used for? I mean, those are questions we can address to the applicant. When when you're finished with all being respectful, when you're finished with your right comments, we will then yeah ask the applicant to come back up. Right. I'm not sure what what actions building inspectors taken since I was there on Monday, you know, to the building office. Yeah.

Al so our one of our uh our code our uh code enforcement officer went there the other day. Did visualize some things that need to be cleaned up. It was uh revisited yesterday and it was clean. But the one thing we did see was the tent in the back there uh which needs to come down. That's going to get a violation, but that's where the the structure is proposed to go so that that doesn't have What about the 8ft fence? Now I see it. Cut it down. It's been cut down now down to six feet.

You're asking me? Yeah. Okay. Just want to make sure I can speak. Um, yes. The fence in the back is actually 6 ft and it is only 6 ft. It had a privacy screen that was slightly higher, probably about 8 ft. Um because uh I've had problems with neighbors taking pictures around and over and taking pictures of my property and that's why I was trying to keep that from happening. And I have obviously two small children there and I don't want pictures of my kids running around the backyard and that's why I have a privacy fence along that pro that side of the property that's interior to the property. That's the white.

Oh yeah. It's it's 2 feet. At at minimum it's a foot and a half. Maximum is about 3 ft off the property line. It's all on my property. Okay. It's on the survey. Also, you visited and um I didn't visit, but my men did. Okay. Right now, we have one violation which is the vinyl portable shed and that's in the location where they're proposing for the the large and and the this zone of the village apartments is residential slash residential, right? It's a residential.

Yeah. I I did notice that on the property next door there were buildings and lots of logs and wood on the adjoining property. So I don't know if that's permitted or not permitted. I mean I have wood on my property because we cut it up for firewood. So I do I do the same thing. I have a wood burning stove in my basement. I use it. It just turned off recently. Right.

I put it out. Um getting back Can I continue speaking? Um, getting back to his comment about use of the building. I currently have a 30ft pole behind camping trailer. Uh, my family and I love going camping all over the all over the Aderondex and the Catskills and soon to travel out west hopefully soon. Um, a third the reason the size of the the depth of the bay of the of the garage opening um is 40 ft so I can accommodate my 30ft trailer in it with room around it to maintain it. Um, I also am an avid car collector. I love cars since I was a wee little boy. Um, my father also has quite a few collectible cars. He's getting up in age. He's 75 now. Um, so he has I have a 55 Chevy sedan delivery street rod. He has a 31 Model A Street Rod. 55 Ford Fairlane.

I saw the Ford. Oh, the that's that's a that's a working project. That's that's the the 5 uh uh five Ford in the back is a work in project a working work in progress. Sorry. Okay. So, Al, the size of this structure that is going going in is is is it in compliance with the the the area the the the size that they need for zoning because they're over 8.5%. Okay. Um, but they're they're also you also they're going to be visiting the planning board because I believe yes on the 13th

and it's 2,800 where it's 25 I think. I think the height also the height is over 20 ft but it's under the 35 ft that uh a principal build. I didn't realize that there was a difference with the accessory structure and the the 20ft limit on height of an accessory structure. So, I was going off of the chart that I was given that said 35 ft and I'm at 30 foot I believe 30 foot 5 in or 30 foot 6 in on the on the building. But the planning board will have to look at that. That's for a special use. We're being asked for one thing and the planning board is going to deal with I'm asking the planning board for a special use permit based on the the size and the height.

Um oh uh one quick thing about the property. I do have 50ft setbacks. My current building on my property does not meet the 50ft setbacks. My house does not meet. So, it's uncon pre-existing unconforming or or however you want to I I'm not good with the wording. The both sides of my property, my property is 115t wide.

The the curb at at the front is 115t wide. with 50ft setbacks. I could build something 50 foot I mean 15 ft wide in the middle of my property without coming to your board. Um you can't park something or do anything in 15 ft. Um so no matter what I did on my property, wherever I put it in the back, make it smaller, make it bigger, um I would have to get a variance no matter what. I see. It's it's a very interesting that long rectangular it and and basically I'm sorry I didn't mean to

you really get the sense you're in Bedford Hills when you go to the edge of the property and you you look at the drop down there. I don't think you you realize how Bedford Hills is today. Um, and also uh just to uh oh to mention um in addition to taking down that vinyl shed if I get approval um that a vinyl tent I'm sorry not vinyl shed in addition I already took down a old metal conics trailer a box like a box trailer in the back of the property. Yes, this this one here that um I can show you on the and then in addition this shed as well is going is

but these two were the permitted ones. These two are the permitted one that that was permitted but it moved. So these removed and they were in the back here stating that this must have all my all my sheds were permanent per permit permitted had the permits that were required. Um, one of them I had to move because of my fence location. So really, you're removing all that. So I'm get the permission for the larger building that that you want. Yes. All those sheds that are ugly looking and all the stuff that was outside will be in an enclosed space out of the weather protecting the equipment, protecting my my that one's coming out too, guys.

Right. So since you have that driveway that goes all the way back and your home and your children's play area and the little shed on your like home personal property. Yes. Your kind of backyard garage area is in the back. All the way in the back. All the way in the back behind that fence. That's like a lot of the other ones. If I could show you on this drawing. Can I borrow the mic? Thank you. Um that's loud. Sorry. On this drawing, my fence would come in here. So, it would come into this side where where that little shed is and come into this side. Yeah.

And this section, this this awning, if you notice on my property, I had a nice garden in the back that was protected by a little chainly fence because my dog likes to dig in the garden, right?

Um and all the animals in the neighborhood. um that this section would open up to that garden and along that long vinyl fence, I plan on moving those raised beds and the plants that are there to move those along the uh the fence line. I I think one thing that's important I hear that the neighborhood is changing and there are a lot of we've seen houses before where people have you know trucks in the driveway and but uh there there are a lot of other houses that have similar garages and structures. So when someone says commercial that is confusing me because people do have trucks in their backyard and they do have vehicles in the backyard. So I think when it comes to like storing a lot of things is where your concern is. When you see storage and you're saying you think commercial things are happening but

it is commercial. Yeah. You're saying it's commercial trucks. We're not talking about passenger trucks. These are commercial people. You have to use the microphone please. I thought you were talking. Um I wasn't talking a minute ago. You asked about the uh square footage and it says here right in this application on the public notice that and where is it here? An accessory structure shall not exceed 218 square ft. The proposal here is for 3200 ft barn. That's not even close to 218 square feet. However, that's under the special use.

Yeah, that's 200 I'm sorry 218 square feet of the lot, not the structure size. Yeah, the percentage exceeds 5%. No accessory structure can exceed.5% of the total lot coverage. That's where that comes in. The actual size that structure will be before the There's still there's still many things that can be done um with this. Yeah. And the size and the size the uh the size of the the barn is being dealt with by the um planning board. Yes. You're going to take care of the 0.5. Well, that's under your

That's the variance. Yeah. But the actual size is 2,800 where you're permitted 2500 and that is under the purview of the planning board. Also the height is under the you're only allowed 20 ft setbacks is we're looking at setback taking care of setbacks and and uh also the uh the.5% of the total lot the the I just want to mention one can I speak? Yes.

Um I just want to mention one thing about the design that I picked has a barn style roof. Um that roof obviously is a higher style heightwise. Um, it's as low as I can possibly go on that style. Even though we're not doing the height here, the reason for that height is so I can pull my trailer back into that garage door because my trailer is at 12 ft and those doors are going to be, I believe, tw uh 14t doors. So, I won't have any problem with my my trailer going in there. So, your alternative, you'd have to leave your trailer outside.

I would have to leave a 50 $60,000 piece of equipment outside and in the weather. That's why it's in the Quanset Hut uh tent currently. Um during the summer I take it out and it's occasionally parked in my driveway. It will be plugged in, ready to go, and we will go on our trips from there. Um but winter it I have to protect a very expensive piece of equipment that that I have. Um also um getting to the coverage by eliminating the the other structures and eliminating the vinyl uh tent and the the two sheds and the metal conics storage shed. Um my my percentages have kind of changed a little bit. Um, instead of uh right now if I elim if I eliminate all of that out of the Hold on a second, let me correct numbers here. Uh, excuse me. The building coverage uh area on my survey uh would go down if I just remove the structures, it would go down to 6.5. Um and if I remove the structures uh and add that to the imperous imperous coverage that goes to uh from 21.3 to 20.7. Now when you add my new building in and the uh pergola um into it, those numbers do go up obviously significantly because it's a bigger building. Um, my building coverage would go up to 14.8. Uh, my overall impervious would go to uh,

oh, that's right. Uh, would be go over would go up to uh, 29. That leaves me with a total of my impervious surfaces, my my gravel driveway, my grass lawn, all the all the impervious in the backyard, basically the front yard. um and all the gravel and that I have on there. That leaves me at 16.2 total collective of imperous surfaces still left, which I don't want to go any more than that. I'm not planning on the grass. That's all. So, you don't have to count that.

Okay. So, the alternative leaving out in the back is not a good one for you. Maybe not visually so good. And also I know that it's been brought up at the town meeting. I don't know which meeting, maybe this meeting or whatever that trailers, they have been brought up in the past where I can't park it in my front yard. I can't park it anywhere where you can kind of see it, right? Um and they brought up locations where you could possibly park it. Yes, it that's a a recipe a recipe for somebody to break into my property to be honest with you. If I park it in the train station, rodents, everything could get in there and I wouldn't be able to to protect my own recently dealing with that. In some communities, you'll drive through and they have a giant trailer in the front drive

and and I don't park it in the front and I park it on the side of my property when I'm ready to go right on a trip. That's basically how that that trailer gets used. So, you're removing a lot of that stuff. Mhm. And I'm removing the the playground is going away, but that has impervious that's all gravel anyway. It has a border around it that's a 6x6 pressuret treated wood, but that's all impervious as it is. So, that pergolo is basically replacing my kids digging area where there's tons of trucks. And if you came, they moved my cones on me. I apologize. Oh, I had cones set and they thought they were their cones for their construction zone over there. Does this structure have a second floor or is it just just

It has a second second floor for storage. It it's he's talking about the pergola. No, the pergola. No, you worry about that. It's a five foot clearance under the trusses. Okay. So, it's not actually 32t building, 3200t building. It has a second

it's not it's not livable. It's not li any none of it is livable space but it is merely if I am if I am putting a truss of that that type truss you can make the interior dimension of that truss dimensional where you can actually put a load on a truss because you're not supposed to put load on a truss like attic trusses you're not supposed to put loads down on them they're supposed to get loaded from the roof itself but this truss is designed to have a space upstairs for, you know, dry storage and

it's it's part of the design of the structure. It it would be silly to put this I I would just do a a peak roof at that point and have an ugly looking structure in my opinion of a peaked roof versus something that looks like a barn. And if you go down Bab Road, I believe it was 168 I mentioned, they have a a barn style gamrell, I think I'm saying that correct, style roof on that that garage, and that's about a three and a half car garage. It's not as deep, but it's at 168 Babbot Road. Um, and there's barns obviously all throughout the village and town of Beford. They're everywhere, so it's nothing that it it couldn't conform to what looks right down the road on on Harris Road,

right? like pre-existing pre-existing a barn like it's just like it would be if you could say it would be a pre-zix singing barn and then you built your house in front of it. Well, I guess what I'm getting my head is a lot of most people have a garage for their vehicles and this is kind of a garage for your vehicles but it's larger than you know that there was nothing there before. Well, I've been using that Quanet hut tent to work on my equipment, work on ATVs that my my children have,

work on the snowblowers when they break and the tractor when it broke during the snowstorm. And I do have a little area. My trailer's on one side and I put plywood down on the other side so I have a working space so I can work on it. I do have a lot of mechanical tools in there that are protected from the weather and and merely uh getting rid of that structure will literally I will it will cause a big bigger problem than than uh I want to face

and I would like to correct how that structure looks ugly. I I admit it's getting older. My intent was never to have that structure. It is a temporary structure. It is a vinyl tent with a a metal frame that's movable. It's completely temporary. It was not meant to last this long. Knock on wood. It hasn't ripped. Um, but please don't jinx me. You just did. I know. I knocked on wood.

I got a question on the on the lots. So, our lots here, our lot, his lot, they're long rectangular lots, skinny rectangular lots. Why Why can't this building be turned sideways? Go the long way of the lot like like like it should be. So, you have like 40 foot variances on both sides of the property. Why does it have to go long ways across? So there's only six feet left on our, you know, it's very close to our property, but at six feet it's like nothing. Are you on the right side or the left side? We're on the right side. So this I don't know logistically maneuvering.

It wouldn't it wouldn't be 40 ft on each side. The building is an 80 foot building. That's the reason why I placed it this direction is how I pull into my backyard. As you could see when you drove back there or walked back there, that's how a vehicle is naturally going to go in. If I turn it completely, I would have to redo all the sheds, the garden, everything else so I could get my vehicles in and out of the garage. It's placed in it's sorry, it's placed in a location that that works the best for for it. Okay. Um, and when it's 80 ft, so 80 ft minus 115. No, I'm talking the other way. 80t long. The way the property runs, property runs hundreds of feet long.

That's the way it is. this way. That is the way it is. Talking about turning. You're talking about going along the way. No, you're talking about moving it this way. This way. 80 ft. It's this way now. It's just up against the property line. Oh, right. At that variance that sure it is. It's not going You're not looking at it straight on. You're going to only see the front side of it.

It's fine. I mean, listen, at the end of the day, if this gets approved, we'd be fing an application for the same kind of same structure because if you're allowed to have a garage of that size back there, we know it's not going to be used for personal use. But, you know, I plan on doing the same thing. I know what I see, right? And so, if you get a complaint, we went out and we we went to it and we investigated. Yeah. And it was cleaned up. We do have an issue with this vinyl, but it's going to come down. Yeah. Uh well, either way, if it's not now, it's it's a violation. So, it's got to either be legalized or But there's still no reason that this thing can't be moved out here property. It doesn't have to be right up against the right.

I would be like 6 feet off the property. It could be moved into the middle of the yard and down closer to the closer to his house. Plus, the rear yard there's no there's no bearings in the rear yard. The re the rear yard. I'm asking I'm sorry.

6 ft from 50 ft. Is that nothing? I mean that this whole structure could be moved up closer to his house running long ways. It doesn't have to be built right on our property line at the height of this thing. That's all we're looking at. This is monstrous building back there. Now may may I um there from the street you are not able to see this structure at all. uh from in front of my structure from in front of my house from uh as you're looking at my structure uh 250 I'm sorry uh get the numbers right. Yeah.

Well 24 uh 243 um as you're looking at that side of it. So the right side of my property where my fence goes up along the driveway. I'm sorry. Is it Would that be the north or south side? Mr. Ernie, when you say the side of my property, that would be the It would be the south side, the opposite side from Harris Road. So, it would be the Defford Hills side of the property. So as you're looking at it the south side um that that

direction as you come up from the village and you come towards my property there are abbervite trees that are 30 feet tall 35 40t tall. There are pine trees that are on my neighbor's property that are completely covering the entire view of what is currently there now. Um, and would still block with the abbervites that are currently there, the pine trees that are there, and come spring there are three or four maple trees that will bloom. I only I'm not asking to re remove any of the trees. Um, I merely need to trim up a couple branches um so that I can get that the the height because those branches have have grown down. Um, and periodically I had to do that anyway to keep the quantit from or or the tent um from getting holes in it. Um, so I mean I understand the the the concerns that have been brought up. Um, I'm asking for the the the six foot setbacks. Um, and that's that's where I'm at. I don't I don't know what is there any other questions? I'm sorry.

Um, no. At the moment, let me find out there. Is there anyone else that want to speak on this application either on the Zoom call or on the uh in the audience? Can't see over there. Zoom. Um, we do have as part of the package that came in here a bunch of letters um from neighbors. Um, I'm actually a little confused about one of them. Um, you're you're you're at 243 Babbot. Yes, sir.

Yeah. Because I also have a letter from Gloria and Ricardo Achar at 243 Babbot who don't have any problem or you know support the project. Um, Joseph J. Lombardo for Franklin Avenue supports the project. It's across the street. Gerald A. Phelps, 253 Babbot Road supports the project. Tristan Kenny's 253 Babbot supported the project. Um, properties. No, no, I'm just I have to just putting these in for the sake of the record. Not

two of two of them do and two of them are directly across the street. It's one one Franklin and I believe two or four two 254 Karen Becklman. That's directly across the street as well. Right across from my driveway. She's a she's she and there's there's three or four residents at that location. Yeah. She and her husband Joseph are in favor. Oh, and there's another person at 254. James Tepher Tephertiller. Yes. There's there's I think and then another person Brandon Saltz and Sally Sills at one Franklin. That's directly across the brick building. across Jeremy Velasquez at 261 Babbot. That's two houses now

in favor. And then the Bedford Muse Condominium Association at 208 Harris 268 Babbot has written a letter saying that the association has memory problem. Um and as I said there's And is yours a two two family because is that where the other people come in? They're my tenants. They're your tenants. Okay. back. None of those houses none of those houses can see this this thing down here. None none of those houses can see this this uh garage back there. We're the only ones that that that it's affecting. It's right on our property line. Yeah.

I mean, it's a monstrous structure right on our property line and we're the only ones that see it. It doesn't matter. All these people on Franklin and everybody's driveways that you plow all all winter for them for free. They're all writing you letters now, you know, because you're very friendly with all the neighbors in the neighborhood. You taking care of everybody's property all summer, all winter for free. But at the end of the day, those people aren't affected by this. People that live across the street on Franklin, people that live across the street on Babbot, Bedford Muse, the condos down the street, they can't see this building in the back. There's no effect for them to go up there and ask them to write you a letter. Isn't Mr. Phelps in sighteline? Who's the back of the property? Jerry Phelps. 100%. He's one of the people that Is that the guy next door? Is that the guy next door that's running the tree service out of his backyard now?

Uh, no. That's uh Jerry Phelps. It's my direct neighbor to my left, which is the yellow house 250. So is there a proposal to build it 6 ft off his property line? Why don't you move the whole barn next door to him and take 6 feet on his property line? I would I will direct it to you. And we also have your letter of the in opposition to it. So thank you. I think I'm hearing that your major concern is the sight line that you're going to see it. That's you say that.

Well, it's a monstrous building. Yeah. Yeah, I mean sometimes we're able to u mitigate some of those things with some screening or whatever, but I don't know if that's going to be a solution here because you know it works sometimes. I hate to interrupt. There is already screening along that entire property, that side of the property. And on the other side and and the Phelps side, I have uh uh for Cythia lining that side. Um that that side that we're talking about has already a six-foot privacy fence, right?

Which eliminates a lot of lot of headaches or or whatever. Um, that privacy fence behind the the white vinyl fence, which was a black chain link fence, I put up and it was slightly too high. I didn't realize it. It got dropped down. It's It's no longer a problem. I think I think he's starting to get higher. But right now, there's also trees that line that entire section that are all pine trees that you can't see it from his propert. Yes, 100%. There are old pine trees that you

There's there's tons of trees in that along that side of property. So, I'm I'm going to just come here. This is an enormous building. There's no way around it. 80 ft by 30 ft is an enormous building. On top of that, you're asking for almost 30 feet on height on accessory building. It's not. And when you look at that second floor, it's an 8 ft to that truss. That's a could be a potential living space. I have a lot of discomfort with how this is oriented in the setbacks um for a whole variety of reasons. I appreciate your desire to house um your camper and house vehicles. And I'm not trying to say you shouldn't be able to do that, but this is you're putting it right up against a property line. Trees are I will tell you personally, I had trees, pine trees when I bought my home between our property lines and a couple storms. Unfortunately, we lost four of them. Okay, those were probably I don't know 80, 90 year old trees. It's we're seven years into replacements now. It's still not screening my neighbor's house. So, I can understand the neighbor's concern of saying, "Yes, there's existing screening today, but this is an enormous structure." And so, I I understand that that there are garages and and getting to be larger garages in the area. I understand the neighbors concern about commercialization. I'm not saying that you're doing that. I've seen other people have them for recreational purposes, but this is an an enormous structure going in on the property, and it will have an impact on the neighbor whose yard it overlooks. And I I have reservations about approving this structure at six feet off a property line where the majority of the impact is going to be to that neighbor, not to you, mind you. You've you're going to see the narrow part of the building. you push it into your corner that's convenient for your for your access what you like but it's it's not convenient to the neighborhood in that sense and the neighborhood it does impact and and that's I again to me this is an enormous structure it sets it continues a bad

precedent uh and it enlarges that precedent you have two you could have two two oversized you know uh garage cables you could take down part of the over oh what what the overhang you know, awning here, porch, but and you could lower the height on this. I mean, that this is this is an enormous an enormous structure and there's no way around that from my perspective of what you're asking on. And you're saying, well, that there's screening there. Again, a six foot six foot fence isn't going to screen a 30 32 foot building that's right on top of that property line.

I I understand and and I respect your your opinion. Um, I merely am putting this like I've designed this and I've thought this out for years now trying to figure out what I can build back there. Um, no matter what I do, I have to get a variance. So, I don't know what I mean, this is what I propose. If you're proposing that I change it in some way, what would be your recommendation if this accommodates what I need it to accommodate now? and what I want it to accommodate with my vehicles and campers and equipment that I have that will go in this and not be an isore of what's currently there right now, which is,

you know, theore condition is self-created. So don't try to use it as a justification for storing stuff. That's going to feel very offensive to me when you've let it go to that condition where you're even calling it an eyesore. So So don't start that as the premise, please. What I what I would ask is you said this is what I'd like and I can appreciate that and what I'm telling you from my perspective is that this is oversized for where you're placing it on the lot and the height that you have on the lot because the impact to the neighbor is significant based on that. I'm not saying the design is poorly done. I I just went through the designing process myself on a structure. I understand the sentiment about being careful about designing and the like, but you also have to be mindful of how it's going to impact the people around you. So you you have this is a very large structure. I understand that what you want. What I have said to other applicants is sometimes the property and what you want don't coincide together. I don't know that for sure. But from my perspective and what you're asking today this scale of a structure on that property line so close to it between the height and the distance that property line doesn't feel appropriate to me of way the code works or what the president that I want to set. the rest of the board here could feel differently. You don't need all of our votes in order to have that, but that that's my sentiment on the structure you put forward.

I I respect that. I also appreciate the fact that you want this for your recreational vehicles. I appreciate you saying that and wanting that. A lot of people want that also. I've seen that. So, I'm not objecting to having that. Um I mean, it cost it would cost me an astron an astronomical amount to house my trailer during the winter. Um, and even during when I'm not using it, let's say I have to put it up for whatever reason. Also, it costs six, seven, $800 to house antique cars right down here on on railroad and at the antique. It used to be heritage. Uh, uh,

I mean, I forget the car storage place's name. in the scheme of things of what you're asking for in terms of want. Mhm. What the code allows and what the variance structure of evaluating a variance will allow. None of that matters. Okay. That that this is No, I'm just I'm just No, that's I understand. Um let me get cut you off for a second. I'm I'm wondering whether um we shouldn't um put this off. When are you when are you supposed to see the building department? Uh the 13th, which is Monday.

Okay. Because um I'm the on our agenda um which is what I'm assuming was noticed. It says that the construction of the permit is 40T by 70 ft. The aing is not considered an interior structure. No, but what I'm saying is the on the plans it's saying it's 40 by 80 ft. There's a 10ft porch lean to porch on the side. Like I could I could I could I possibly ground floor area which is 40 by 70. What's that? The ground floor area is what they're

Oh, the 80 ft takes into account the porch. Is that what you're saying? I see. Okay. Okay.

So, so I think what you're what you're what you're already hearing and which I would second this is that this is this is a structure that feels not in proportion to what the the property can sustain. Uh a structure like that I I envision on a you know 40 acre property where it's it's a part of a barn compound. So that's that's much much further away from your one acre, but that's something that you're you're battling against in terms of justifying uh proportion, size, and volume and height. And so that's that's where the variance is weighing this, right? Because that's that inc it increases exponentially how it impacts the neighbors in the neighborhood and how more more difficult it becomes to set it independently from the neighborhood in terms of screening in terms of positioning. So I think what you're probably going to have to do is look at your program again of what's essential. And I can't imagine that, you know, you need three 14 foot doors uh for one trailer that you have, right? I can appreciate that you want off uh off uh outside u non outside storage for trailer. I can totally appreciate that. So there's a way to then design around that and articulate the building. It may not be accomplished with a pole bar, but it is definitely doable that you can manipulate the scale and the sizing. I think if the goal is is to store a trailer, the goal is to store some classic cars and some of your stuff. Um, you have height, you have storage systems, you have vertical storage systems, double stacking of of um, uh, caddies. So, the whole upstairs now becomes different. So, that door, that 14ft door can be protruding into

that upper space and the whole thing can come down. I think what you're hearing is is that we're not opposed to you having an accessory structure. Not at all. I'm totally appreciative of of what your what your goals are. Uh but ultimately the the size, the volume, the impact, uh I mean, you know, the conditions of of of the the variance talk about character of the neighborhood, detriment of nearby properties, all those things we have to weigh. um they're not arbitrary, right? And so um and as you yourself pointed out, all the decisions boards make become precedent for another decision.

And so you pointed out there's other large garages and structures in the built in the area. Each one of those is supposed to be weighed and considered and and why and how. And this this is this is a 3,200 square foot structure. Well, it's 28 with a the with the awning at like the ground or Yeah. 28. Um, it's the awning that gives another Yeah. 10 10 feet of overall coverage. But again, it goes to what we're saying, which is the proportion of this, right? The appearance of this is is large. Okay. I I It's not a large structure if you put it on a 100acre farm. Oh, yeah. It would look tiny on a 100 acre farm. It's a very, very large structure in this situation.

Unfortunately, I don't have the money to have a 100 acre farm. I wish I did because that's where I would need rent now. Um but what in in in contra or or I respect your opinion. Um um I just what what would I mean what would you like me to what would be your suggestions how I could mitigate some of your concerns? Obviously size shrinking it down whatever. I kind of laid it out. Okay. Right. Well, I was going to say I don't know if guy if you guys went out and actually looked at the site. Um, but but where

this this is when I was standing there, you can't see the immediate neighbor's house. Yeah. Because of all the various trees and that he's talking about. Um, the only thing I could actually see looking over the or near the fence was I guess you must have some kind of a a fire pit or something like that or an old fire an old fireplace area or something. That's the only thing I could see in your yard. I couldn't see. I'm just saying what I just saying what I could see. Um

I I would agree that if I thought it was very high. I And when you say what are we recommending? I mean, I don't know what's out there in and and obviously your trailer is guiding some of this. So, I would ask you to look if there isn't something that could bring it down a little bit more. I didn't realize until I saw the plans that there's an 8 foot high second floor essentially which could, you know, bring it down. Yeah. You know, and I I would like to pull it into the property a little more. Well, the only the only thing I worry about being the only thing I worry about if you pull it more into the property whether that then actually makes it more visible because right now he's on the sort of outside edge of

I mean move it move it what is that what is the direction that would be towards the east more like more centered as opposed to forward this way that's what I'm saying if you're more here or 10t or so because I won't be able to swing in that's the problem you need if you look at the design When you think about it, take into account that part of the mitigation at hand is existing trees and screening. If you ever had to replace the existing screening that was there, is six feet sufficient that you have to put it on your side of the property line. 100%. Yes, I could you could put abberites or or screening of some sort there to cover to cover to cover the entire building. But I can see

I will agree with you on that. for for them to have screening on your property, you're going to need at least 10 or 15 feet of property doesn't cover it. I do I do plantings all the time.

So that's scale of a building. You you don't have enough room. You have to be honest with yourself about it. So what you're hearing, what I'm telling you is the scale of the building and the proximity to that property line is of an issue and concern to me. Um, I think that you've heard that the height is a concern and I mean other board members will speak to themselves, but I do think there are things that you could take into account that will could make it so you could still achieve what you want to achieve and work with us. I think Pete Peter's recommendation of saying, look, I think this should stay open. You can get the rest of the feedback from the board. You need to get the feedback from the planning board. I'm raising height and scale because I'm looking at my variance and my setback variance and the impacts. That's where I look at but it's not fundamentally the design. Our board doesn't critique the a physical design. Okay. I understand. I'm I'm not understanding over this. I apologize if I'm going down a path that

you don't NEED TO APOLOGIZE. I'M just pointing out why where our comments are. the planning board may feel differently and give you some different guidance based on how they view the application. Well, not only that, but how they view it may determine then what variances you actually need. So, in some respect, you know, you're kind of the cart before the horse here and that just that normally happens in this. It's a little bit of a go back and forth. Um,

I know that one of the things we always look at is as we look at these structures that are accessory to a house is is it consistent in the neighborhood and you know that's something that I'm hearing that there are larger structures the neighborhood but whether this is pretty consistent with that that I think that's the question that that we're all looking at. But um uh the other thing that I think is important to you is is the way you get this trailer in, how you pull it down your driveway and how you can angle it, what angle you need to get it in. And and I think that's what you're what you're saying is what whatever position it's going to be in has to enable you to get your turn and get your your trailer in there.

I've tucked this in that location for that exact purpose. And that's why where that tent is is that exact is basically the exact same footprint. If you look at the survey, I I think it's I would suggest that he he go forward to the planning board because they normally as in in line with these special use permit, they also give a lot of feedback on the structure, the building, things maybe that are a little bit out of our out of our arena. But I I would say go forward with the planning board and then let let's see where where we can go with the with the application. Thank you. There is a pathway to to variance here. Absolutely. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. You know, and it was nicely I mean, I have to say it was nicely cleaned up. The place looked, you know, very clean. And

I've been cleaning up my property for a very long time. All 16 years I've been working on that property that I've lived there. It's taken a lot of work. I do everything myself. if you don't want law enforcement. And if you would like, we will um in our in our further visit, we if you don't mind, we'll come to your property to look back and see his property cuz that that quanet hut was only about a foot lower than where the top of his marker was for the top of this barn. So, what's that? You're talking a 30 foot high barn. That closet hut is almost 10t high. No, that closet hut is at least 18.

Yeah. I mean, when I saw the pole that he has there representing the top of this building, it was only about Yeah, it only looked like about 10 10, you know, maybe 10 ft difference between the top of the quazid. So, that's I'd be curious to see it from your property if you if you don't mind explaining. The p the poles are all up there with markers on top of them, little flags. Appreciate that. Thank you for marking it out. Um, so you'll see go see the planning board then next Monday. Okay. And then and then we can try to set you get set you up for him on the May agenda. Certainly if he's as a return depending on what happens at Yeah. Sure. But what what day is May? I just want May 6th. It's a Wednesday.

That that is perfect. That's tenatively if you want to I guess put me on that day and unless something changes with No, that's the day we have that's the day we meet. So that's the day it would have to be. No, I just it'll get carried over and if you can't meet for us for some reason, then we'll just continue to keep it open. So, we'll leave it open. Understood. Okay. I was just confused on how and the public hearing still. So, when it comes it's going to go to planning board. They have a separate process. Okay. So, you're going to get a notice for the planning board meeting. This meeting is staying public meeting staying open which means it'll probably on be on for the May calendar. So should mark that as well and you can come and continue to observe and engage. Yeah.

Yeah. I find it strange saying how he's been cleaning up the property for 16 years because when his grandparents lived there, the property was very clean. It was just a grass lawn back there. There was no road coming back there. There were no 10 wheelers come 10 wheel trucks coming back there. You know, it was just a grass lawn back there. So to say he's cleaning up, he's cleaning up now for you. He's cleaning up the mess. He's been graing for the last 16 years. That's what he's cleaning up. Well, you're putting a little bit more pressure on him to be neighborly, so that's good. Yeah. But Yeah. Well, I think on the other side, he already has seven or eight neighbors who consider him neighborly, but again, they're not

they may not be next door looking at it, but they are neighbors and they consider him a good a good neighbor. So, I wouldn't think he's a bad neighbor. You want the picture? Okay. All right. All righty. Anybody else? Sean, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for everybody. Thank you for showing up and taking a look. Leave it open. We open. Um, any other discussion amongst the board? Thank you very much. Anybody else have any issues tonight? No. I think at the last I'm not going to address it tonight, but at the last meeting Meredith suggested that we

consider asking the town to hire a consultant to review some of the continuous applications that we're getting that are repetitive that could be resolved the changes in the zoning and I think that's a good idea consultant. How do you go about asking for that? No, we've already talked about that. Oh, good. Yeah. Thank you. I want to start talking about that. Was there any progress on the signage meeting? You know, the whole signage? Yeah, they they had a sign u the the the whatchamacallit business district got together and had a sign discussion. How were you at a meeting for the signs? The signs in the in the Bedford Hills district. They got together at a meet already. No, no, I wasn't at that.

I was at separate meeting for our feedback when we were going over signage. Okay. Okay. I'll find out where that is. Anyway, uh can I have a motion to uh adjourn until May 6th? All those in favor? I We are adjourned until May 6th.