City Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, August 24, 2026

The City Council tabled an amendment for a religious assembly use due to the applicant's absence and extensive public questions. The meeting also saw the approval of a DARE grant and winter storm funding, alongside significant public opposition to the Shaker Town Road widening project.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Beavercreek, OH
Meeting Date
August 24, 2026

Transcript

163 sections

0:21 – 2:31Speaker 12

Good afternoon. Before we get started tonight, could I have your attention, please, in the room? Thank you. Before we get started tonight, I've got a little certificate of recognition I want to present to a young lady that's stepped up and done a lot of things for our city over the past couple of years that I've been involved. So I ask Victoria to come forward. I put together a certificate of recognition presented to Victoria Wilkinson. On behalf of the city of Beaver Creek, the mayor proudly recognizes Victoria Wilkinson, a seventh grade student and life scout serving as a senior patrol leader of Troop 269 for her exemplary leadership, service, and dedication to her school, her troop, and her community. Within Troop 269, Victoria proudly serves as a bugler, historian, and librarian. She is president of the Hearts and Hands 4-H Club, and a Girl Scout ambassador, and she has maintained a place on the academic honor roll for four consecutive years. She also volunteers her time in support of the Beaver Creek wetlands. As Troop 269's bugler, Victoria has generously shared her talent with our community, sounding taps and calls of remembrance at the City of Beaver Creek's September 11th Memorial Ceremony the Green County Flag Retirement Celebration, and the community's Veterans Day and Memorial Day observances. In recognition of her outstanding service, leadership, and talent, and spirit of giving back, I present you with this certificate. We'll call this meeting to order. Can I have a roll call, please?

2:31Speaker 4

Council Member Bales? Here. Council Member Bills? Here. Council Member Kern? Here. Council Member Dewar? Here. Council Member Littoral? Here. Vice Mayor Upton? Here. Mayor Adams?

2:41Speaker 12

Here. And I'll turn it over to Council Member Dewar.

2:46Speaker 27

Please join me in standing for the pledge. Victoria, would you like to lead us, please?

3:03Speaker 17

for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

3:13 – 4:21Speaker 27

It's hard to imagine because it's still some time away, but this is our last regular council meeting before the 25th anniversary of 9-11. A fateful day in our nation's history and the deaths of 2,977 Americans and others working across New York and Washington, D.C. and on United Flight 93. It was a day of dastardly terrorism that cut to the heart of civilization. I promised that day that I would never forget. And 25 years later, it is still in my remembrance. I also want to think about and to pray for the first responders, several thousand of whom have died from cancer and other related ailments and injuries due to their heroic actions on that day. Please take a moment of silent prayer with me.

4:36Speaker 12

Thank you. We have an agenda before us. Any changes, corrections?

4:42Speaker 22

Move we approve the agenda for tonight, Your Honor. Second.

4:46 – 4:59Speaker 12

I have a motion and a second to approve the agenda. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? We have a set of minutes before us as well. August 10th, 2026, regular meeting. Any changes, corrections, updates?

5:02Speaker 11

Move to approve. Second.

5:04Speaker 12

I have a motion and a second to approve the August 10th meeting minutes. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? First thing up, PUD 804.

5:21 – 6:17Speaker 4

PUD 08-4 amendment. An application filed by Hay, Howard, and Elizabeth Hahn, 2084 Prudence Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio, 45434. The applicant requests approval to amend PUD 08-4. The applicant requests approval to add a place of religious assembly as permitted use within the PUD. The property is located at 3044 Dayton Xenia Road, further described as Book 5, Page 6, Parcel 5 and 6, and Book 5, Page 8, Parcel 90 on the Greene County Property Tax Atlas. Ordinance 2620, an ordinance amending Ordinance 08-46, PUD 08-4, comfort keepers to add places of religious assembly as a permitted use.

6:19Speaker 12

Do we have an applicant? Nope.

6:24 – 12:38Speaker 23

THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO US LATE THIS AFTERNOON. THERE'S AN ILLNESS IN THE FAMILY, SO THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING, AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE HAD A CONFLICT. SO I WAS GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR STAFF. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE, SO THERE'S A SECOND READING FOR THIS. SO IF THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT COME UP FROM TONIGHT, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOMEONE AT THE NEXT HEARING IF THIS MOVES ON TO THE SECOND READING TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I'll do my best to answer some of the questions related to the business. Again, this is PUD 08-4, an amendment from July of this year. Again, as the clerk stated, they're looking to amend the PUD to add places of religious assembly as one of the permitted uses within the PUD. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST OFF OF DAYTON ZENIA ROAD, ABOUT 250 FEET WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF DAYTON AND HAINES. IT'S A LONG, VERY LONG OR ELONGATED PARCEL. IT'S ABOUT 1.9 ACRES. IT HAS 120 FEET OF FRONTAGE ON DAYTON ZENIA ROAD. BUT IT SITS BACK, THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE FORMER HOUSE OF THE PROPERTY, SITS BACK ABOUT 370 FEET FROM THE DAYTON ZENIA ROAD. THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A 2,000 SQUARE FOOT FORMER HOUSE, BUT NOW IT'S AN OFFICE BECAUSE THIS WAS REZONED IN 2008 FROM RESIDENTIAL TO CPUD SO THAT A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE COULD BE RUN OUT OF THE EXISTING HOUSE. SO IT HAS THE 2,000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE. IT HAS A 2,100 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED BARN ON THE PROPERTY. THAT SITS ABOUT 530 FEET BACK FROM DAYTON ZENIA ROAD AND ABOUT 13 FEET OFF OF THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE. THESE ARE KIND OF PHOTOS OF THE STRUCTURES, THE EXISTING STRUCTURE. THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT IS THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING SLASH FORMER HOUSE. THE TOP LEFT IS THE EXTERIOR OF THE BARN AND THEN THE PHOTO ON THE RIGHT IS THE INTERIOR OF THE BARN. THE INTENT WOULD BE TO RENOVATE THE BARN SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY EVENTS IN THE BARN AS WELL AS IN THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING. AGAIN, THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK IS THE PUD AS A WHOLE. TO THE WEST IS AN R01 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, AND THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING. TO THE NORTH IS A VACANT R1A LOT OWNED BY THE SAME OWNERS AS THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PUD PROPERTY. AND THE INTENT IS TO SELL THAT, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS TO SELL THAT ALONG WITH THE PUD PROPERTY ALL TO THE APPLICANTS. TO THE EAST IS A SERIES OF R1A PROPERTIES. MANY OF THE HOUSES ARE SET SEVERAL HUNDRED FEET BACK. THE ONES ALONG HAINES ROAD ARE ALSO EQUALLY ELONGATED, NARROW BUT VERY DEEP PROPERTIES, AND THE HOUSES ARE PUSHED CLOSER TO HAINES ROAD. I BELIEVE IN THE STAFF REPORT I HAVE A DIAGRAM IN THERE SHOWING THE DISTANCES BACK FROM MANY OF THE HOUSES. THE RECENTLY APPROVED LAND USE PLAN HAS THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE DAYTON ZENIA CENTER CORRIDOR PLANNING AREA. AND THAT'S REALLY A REDEVELOPMENT PLAN SO THAT IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA, IT WOULD BE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USES, WHICH A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS VERY, ESPECIALLY ONE OF THIS PROPOSED SIZE, IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE LAND USE PLAN. The slide here is just the site as it exists today, just to show where the parking lot is. And on this particular slide, north is to the right. You see the parking lot is south of the former house existing office building. There's asphalt in front of the barn AREA. AND THE INTENT IS TO CONVERT THAT ALSO TO PARKING SO THAT THEY COULD BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO IS HAVE ABOUT 30 SEATS IN THE BARN AREA. AND THEY NEEDED TO TAKE THAT TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND DID THAT AS A MINOR MOD. AT THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED THAT, BUT IT'S ALSO CONTENTION ON THIS ZONING AMENDMENT CASE BEING PUT FORWARD. SO IF THE ZONING AMENDMENT DOES NOT PASS, THEN THAT MINOR MODIFICATION IS CONSIDERED NULL AND VOID. THAT'S GETTING CHALLENGING. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. Okay. In terms of proposed conditions, one is everything in ordinance NPUD 08-4 remain except as modified. One of the conditions is adding the place of religious assembly. One is that it is just stating that their proposed use is compatible with the land use plan. IN ORDINANCE 0846, CONDITION NUMBER 8 STATED THAT THE ONLY STRUCTURE THAT CAN HAVE A PRINCIPAL USE IS THE EXISTING MAIN STRUCTURE. SO IT PRECLUDED THEM FROM DOING ANY PRINCIPAL USES IN THE EXISTING BARN. AND SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO CONVERT THAT BARN INTO A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, CONDITION NUMBER 8 OF THAT ORIGINAL ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE REPEALED. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S PROPOSED AS CONDITION 4 IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU. Planning Commission recommended approval of the applicants request staff has recommended approval of the applicants request I'll be happy to answer any questions for the public hearing thank you very much this is the ordinance so there is public input if anyone would like to speak to this please come forward state your name and address and you'll have three minutes

12:45 – 14:46Speaker 5

My name is Janice Jacobs. I live at 3040 Dayton Xenia Road right next door. I have several questions and unfortunately they're not here to answer. I am wondering why they wanted to move there where there are so many churches and other places of religious bases that are standing empty everywhere. Why did they want there? And that's not a barn by the way. That's a garage. When Taylor Plumbing was operating out of there, and Maude and her husband were still alive, they built that barn, or that garage, excuse me, to house their heavy equipment. So it is not a barn. It is a garage. Getting back to the religious assembly part of that, I'm still baffled by why, the why. Who are they? Why do they want to move there? What do they want to do there? Now religious assembly is such a broad bunch of words. What is their intent there? Are they going to, on the religious part of it, anyone come in? I don't see your Muslims coming in there. I don't see Islamic coming in there. Maybe your Baptist, maybe your Methodist, maybe not necessarily your Jewish. I don't see a broad use for this. Sounds like what they're wanting to do is turn this into a church. It's just a fancy way of saying a church. That's all I have to say.

14:47 – 14:59Speaker 12

Thank you very much. Anyone else?

15:03 – 15:42Speaker 18

Bob Trout, 2187 Bassett Court. I like the idea of a religious facility, but I do have concerns with the types of worship that might go on and also note the close proximity to school here in Beaver Creek. So that would just be an issue that we need to at least be aware of so we can make sure that we choose wisely and do things like that. So that's all I have to say. Thank you.

15:43 – 16:12Speaker 12

Thank you. Anyone else? Did we have any? Oh, sure.

16:15 – 17:59Speaker 21

Danny Crouch, 36-9 Ranchfield Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio. Just a comment. I had not planned to say anything, but I've kind of listened to what was being said here about who are these folks that want to establish a church? What kind of church is that going to be? We have a lot of things going on in our country right now. Many attempts to employ Sharia law as part of the Muslim faith. It has been turned down in the state of Texas. Thank God for the governor stepping forward there. About 400 acres. This is quite a bit different than that. But it's something I think that we need to start considering. Because I don't think we want that kind of law established within Beaver Creek, Ohio, Ohio or our country. And I just think it's necessary that perhaps we need to understand a little bit more about it before we say, yea, verily, let's have a church at this address. It doesn't seem to be very evident to me that we understand where they are trying to head. I'm very amazed that they're not here today to talk to it. That's quite unusual, I think. So I think I just want you and the board to consider the possibility of what kind of church we're going to be allowing if we approve PUD 0804. Thank you.

18:15 – 18:54Speaker 3

Lorraine Knipe, 3075 Ranchfield Drive, next to Denny. My questions have to do with that additional piece of property that they're looking to buy. You know the L shape there? That's currently zone R1A. Not quite sure what is allowed there, but if they're going to buy that, are they going to put like a parking lot in there? other buildings for their church. That was our, you know, in our neighborhood. That's all vacant right now. There is a lot of standing water back there. It hasn't been actually mowed a lot. There's a lot of fallen trees down there, but I'm just curious what the applicants, their intentions are with the other piece of property once they buy that.

19:04 – 19:37Speaker 13

3077 Kemp Road. I would like to kind of piggyback on that and just say as an example as to what can happen with a very small little church as University Baptist started as. They were just a little corner church and now they're expanding into this. Now they're double the size and their parking lots have grown. They're going to put another building on that property supposedly sometime in the future. It doesn't just stop with the little building guys. As soon as you start opening the floodgates, they just keep on doing whatever they want to do then. So that's all I have to say on this matter.

19:37 – 19:55Speaker 12

Thank you. Anyone else?

19:59 – 20:26Speaker 4

we have any written input debbie we did get a letter from the physician's office next door that does not want their parking lot used in any way shape or form by these people so that was their worry and concern nothing further from the citizens i will close the public input and council

20:28 – 20:46Speaker 17

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR RANDY. ONE, MAYBE YOU CAN JUST CLARIFY ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE JUST HEARD ABOUT BUYING ANOTHER PARCEL OR SELLING ANOTHER. I THOUGHT I HEARD YOU SAY THEY WERE GOING TO SELL ANOTHER PARCEL.

20:46 – 20:58Speaker 23

WELL, THE CURRENT OWNERS THAT OWN THE NARROW STRIP ALSO OWN A COUPLE ACRE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, AND THE INTENT WAS TO SELL BOTH OF THOSE TO THIS CURRENT APPLICANT.

21:00 – 21:16Speaker 23

THAT PROPERTY ZONE R1A, IT'S NOT BEING REZONED OR IT'S NOT PART OF THIS PUD. IF THEY WANTED TO DO ANY KIND OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY GROWTH THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO AT A MINIMUM GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND SITE PLANNING.

21:16Speaker 17

INCLUDING A PARKING LOT? ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

21:20 – 21:47Speaker 23

PUTTING A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOUSE BACK THERE. CAN YOU POINT THAT OUT ON THE MAP? SEE IF I HAVE IT ON THE MAP. I ZOOMED IN WAY TOO CLOSE TO GET THE FULL PROPERTY. AND THAT'S WAY TOO FAR AWAY. IT'S BASICALLY JUST NORTH OF THE END OF THE PED, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PED. IT'S BASICALLY A RECTANGULAR PARCEL.

21:56Speaker 23

PROBABLY CLOSE TO AN ACRE AND A HALF, YEAH.

22:01Speaker 15

OKAY, YEAH, I DIDN'T.

22:08Speaker 23

OR ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THE R1A LOT JUST NORTH OF THE, SORRY, I DON'T KNOW.

22:16 – 22:31Speaker 17

OH, YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD, OKAY. So I know this is a zoning amendment related to that, but do you know how they plan to address parking?

22:33 – 23:19Speaker 23

Right now, their intent is to only have 30 seats in the main auditorium. And the way the parking calculation works out is that they only have to have 10 parking spaces for that. It's like one for every three seats. So they could utilize their existing parking. IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND INTO THE EXISTING ASPHALT, JUST STRIPE IN SOME NEW PARKING SPACES. THERE'S NO INTENT RIGHT NOW TO CHANGE THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE. IF THEY DID, IT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PUD MODIFICATION PROCESS, EITHER MINOR MOD, INCIDENTAL MOD, OR MAJOR MOD, DEPENDING ON THE SCOPE. SO RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO PLANS TO EXPAND THE PAVEMENT OR THE BUILDING OTHER THAN RENOVATE THE GARAGE BARN.

23:21Speaker 17

And did they provide you any details on their church?

23:29 – 23:50Speaker 23

In the letter of intent, they addressed that they're wanting to run a place of religious assembly. But we have in our zoning code, place of religious assembly is a catch-all for any church. Similar I mean any of the the denominations any of the religions out there.

23:50 – 24:10Speaker 22

We don't make a distinction between any of those from a zoning code standpoint Yeah, this is a yes, I'm following up What's the maximum number of parking spaces right now and What are they allowed right now?

24:11 – 24:38Speaker 23

They have 10 parking spaces. 10? I saw that. And so that would allow up to 30 seats in the main auditorium or a combination thereof if there's several small ones in the house. If they want to do any more than 30 as a conglomerate, then they'd have to expand parking, create more parking, one for every three seats. What kind of, is he angled in parking?

24:38Speaker 22

What kind of parking?

24:38Speaker 23

Right now they're 90 degree parking right off. You pull straight in. I mean, it's not angled because there's no loop for them to turn around.

24:49Speaker 22

So there's no ingress and egress lanes. Just one lane?

24:53Speaker 23

It's one lane, yeah.

25:06Speaker 12

Councilman Bales has a follow-up question.

25:08 – 25:23Speaker 17

Excuse me. At what point, if any, would the city, if this were to be approved, would the city see the building plan, a modification plan, or does that go to Green County Building?

25:25 – 26:01Speaker 23

In order for them to actually move their business in, they'll have to do a certificate of use compliance. They'd have to do one for the main structure right now, and if they wanted to convert the existing BARN THE GARAGE INTO A NEW PRIMARY STRUCTURE, THEY'D HAVE TO DO A SEPARATE CERTIFICATE OF USE COMPLIANCE FOR THAT. AND WE WOULD REQUIRE WITH THAT TO HAVE A MINIMAL CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, BUT REALLY THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. BUT WE'LL STILL REQUIRE IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR ADDED INSULATION TO HELP DAMPEN SOUND.

26:03Speaker 17

Yeah, and the number of seats.

26:05 – 26:20Speaker 23

Yeah, that would be part of the certificate of use compliance is how many, what use, how many, if it's a particular place of religion, how many seats, so we can make sure that they have enough parking to make sure that they're compliant. Thank you, Randy.

26:20 – 29:35Speaker 19

Thank you. I have a couple questions. It's unfortunate the applicant's not here. I do have a question regarding the letter of intent that they had sent in regards to they make the assertion that they have no intention to change existing buildings on site. layouts positional other I do have concern specifically with utilization the utilization of the garage or barn or whatever we want to call it back there I don't I don't think that it's adequate I don't think that it makes sense I would be for striking in section 1 condition 4 of the that says to strike at requesting to strike section 8 from the ordinance to where that structure back there can't be used the the issue of whether or not the property is large enough to hold an entire church services i mean i understand if it's a small congregation they're talking 30 people i but i am concerned and i wish the applicant was here to kind of walk us through what they mean by not changing anything and what they want approval and i want to walk people through what i was saying in uh section one of the ordinance under bullet four it says condition eight of section two of the ordinance shall hereby be re repealed I do not want to repeal that I don't believe that the and if you go down the eight it says that eight is the it is the that would be on page I guess it's page 30 of our for 29 it says the principal principal structure currently on the site in its current location shall be the only main structure allowed The accessory buildings on the proposed property shall be for accessory use to the main business and shall not be converted to allow for another use on the property. I want that to stay in. I don't think we should repeal that. And again, if the applicant was here to kind of walk us through what their intent was, but because of the way that their letter reads, it states that they have no plans to really do anything to that property. I don't think that the garage should be used for the church services. It's close to the back of the people's backyards, and we don't know what kind of services they're going to hold in the property. So I'll let everybody else speak before I make a motion. But that's my two cents. Thanks.

29:37Speaker 12

Councilman Mills.

29:39Speaker 10

Randy, I have a question. What's the intent behind only allowing one primary structure? And I understand we have some exceptions throughout the city. So if you could just kind of give me an overview.

29:49 – 31:07Speaker 23

Well, when this was done in 2008, I think that there was concern. It was rezoned so that they – I think it was – ELDERLY CARE OR DEMENTIA CARE FACILITY OR IT WAS SENIOR SOLUTIONS IS WHAT THEY RESENTED FOR AND THERE WAS CONCERN THAT THERE'D BE ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES IN THE DETACHED GARAGE AND SO WHEN WE TOOK IT THROUGH IN 2008 IT WAS THAT WAS ADDED SO THAT ONLY THE HOUSE COULD BE USED AND THE APPLICANTS AT THE TIME HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT SO IT WASN'T REALLY QUESTIONED IT WASN'T IT WASN'T AN ISSUE OKAY AND SO think that solved the problem or a question mark back in 2008 um and it's still a question mark now so is this something that's allowed widely throughout the city or is this would this be an exception well there's i mean there's innumerable a number of commercial properties in the city that have more than one business on them anywhere in the mall anywhere any of the strip centers i know this is a different something comparable to this um Well, any, I'm trying to think of a specific. I'm drawing a blank right now, but.

31:08Speaker 10

Sorry to put you on the spot.

31:10 – 31:32Speaker 23

I mean, like, there are a few properties down on Zinnia West, I'm trying to think. And Patterson Road. And Patterson that have a church that have, yeah, more than one business operating or multiple buildings for a church. that operate out of more than one facility.

31:32 – 31:46Speaker 10

And I also saw in the planning commission meeting that there was a discussion around kind of ingress and egress and that kind of situation. You said, I think, that you had to run that by fire marshal?

31:48 – 32:06Speaker 23

The fire marshal is going to be more, when they go through the building, if they're renovating this building, this detached garage, into a now building that's going to have people in it, several people, they're going to have to go through the fire, get approval from the fire marshal as part of their building permit.

32:07Speaker 10

And also, but was there any concern about emergency vehicles in and out, since it is kind of like a narrow area? Not two lanes, limited space to...

32:17 – 32:42Speaker 23

It's something we can certainly forward on to the fire department to see what their concerns are. There's not really a major change to the site in terms of the way the ingress-egress is being proposed. It's staying as is, so it's one of those things where the fire department didn't say anything about it. Over the last several years. It's a more intense use, though, so I get that.

32:42 – 33:02Speaker 10

Well, yeah. Yeah, if they're going to have assemblies of people there, it's different than customers coming, I feel like, in and out individually. Another question was about ADA compliance. Because if they're going to be holding services in the church, and I know there's, I mean, are they prepared to comply?

33:03 – 33:42Speaker 23

The existing office... House it was when it was converted in 2008 They had to go through a whole bunch of a da stuff to make the restrooms and indoor facilities a da compliant and there's an a da Parking space out there by the existing house They'll have to do as part of that building permit. They'll have to make sure anything that's in that Garage would be a da compliant They'll be obligated to follow that That's more of a function of the county than the city. We tell how many parking spaces you might need, but bathroom sizes, handles, heights and everything like that is really more of a building department function.

33:42 – 34:08Speaker 10

Yeah. Um, I also, uh, on a side note would like to, I had some questions I also wanted to ask, um, from the applicants and so kind of disappointed that we can't do that. Um, I was even considering possibly, not moving this forward, maybe tabling it? Is that possible so that we can allow them to come in and maybe have some of our questions answered?

34:08 – 34:24Speaker 12

I've been listening to this and that was going to be my statement. I'm not comfortable moving forward right now without an applicant here because there's too many unanswered questions and I would entertain a motion to table it until we can get the applicant here.

34:27Speaker 23

Yeah, perfectly logical.

34:32Speaker 15

If you're asking whether you can do that, the answer is yes.

34:38Speaker 10

So should I make a motion to table?

34:41Speaker 12

I guess it's been done. Okay. I have a motion and a second to table this until we can have an applicant present. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

34:59 – 35:19Speaker 12

Okay, Randy, if you could contact them and work out a time that they can be here. I understand family issues and things like that, but they should have someone else to be able to step up. Ordinances, resolutions, and PUDs. Ordinance 26-19.

35:19 – 35:56Speaker 4

Ordinance 26-19, an ordinance to levy assessments for the improvement of certain streets in the city of Beaver Creek by maintaining currently erected poles and providing electricity for lighting same certain streets and declaring an emergency upon second reading and this is a second reading anything else from staff council oh your honor i'd uh

35:57Speaker 22

Make the motion to approve ordinance 2619 as an emergency roll call vote. Second.

36:06Speaker 12

We have a motion and a second to approve ordinance 26-19 as an emergency. Have a roll call, please.

36:14 – 36:26Speaker 4

Councilmember Kern. Yes. Councilmember Littoral. Yes. Councilmember Bayos. Yes. Vice Mayor Upton. Yes. Councilmember Bills. Yes. Councilmember Dewar. Yes. And Mayor Adams.

36:26Speaker 12

Yes. Resolution 26-38.

36:34Speaker 4

Resolution 26-38. Authorizing the police department to accept the Ohio Attorney General's drug use prevention DARE grants program funding.

36:45 – 37:31Speaker 26

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of council. So the department applied for the annual drug use prevention grant to be used towards the DARE officer's salary for conducting the drug abuse resistance education program. in the schools. The Ohio Attorney General's Office reported there was 1.8 million available for all the drug use prevention applicants and requests totaled 2.93 million for the year. On August 4th, we received notification that we were awarded $23,706.73 for the 26-27 academic school year. Staff recommends council approval for the police department to accept the drug use prevention grant.

37:35 – 37:56Speaker 19

I'd just like to say I appreciate you presenting this, Chief. Back when I used to teach there, my chief and sheriff made me go over and do it myself. I hated it. But I really appreciate it. I know this is great. does a lot of good, and I'm 100% behind it.

37:58 – 38:10Speaker 27

Chief, my son recently went through the program. Hats off to Officer Peffley for an outstanding job, and I'm very grateful for this grant and opportunity. Thank you. Thank you.

38:15Speaker 12

Yeah, I know we've had their program for a long time, and I know there's several adults out there right now that had Sergeant Hummel, and they still remember that his dear officer.

38:30Speaker 15

There's no further comment. I would move for approval of Resolution 2638.

38:35Speaker 12

I have a motion and a second to approve Resolution 26-38. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

38:41Speaker 12

Opposed? Nice to be able to get that. Resolution 26-40.

38:50 – 39:05Speaker 4

Resolution 26-40, a resolution authorizing the city manager to enter into an agreement with the Ohio Emergency Management Agency for state funding assistance due to the impacts of the disaster declaration from the January 2026 winter storm event.

39:07 – 40:09Speaker 14

Yes, good evening, Mayor, members of City Council. As you might remember, the Dayton region experienced a record-setting snowfall event in late January of 2026. According to the National Weather Service, the January 24th through 26th storm, the city received over 14 inches of snowfall during that snow event. Following the event, the governor authorized the State Disaster Relief Program to accept applications for reimbursement from local jurisdictions. When that became available, the city, we gathered all of our costs from the snow event together and submitted those. They have since approved our cost submittal of $149,473. Of that amount, a total of 75% is reimbursable back to the city, which equates to $112,105.17. The approval of this resolution will allow for us to formally submit the application and start the reimbursement process to the city. With that, we have it. Answer any questions?

40:11Speaker 12

Any questions?

40:13 – 40:24Speaker 17

I just want to say, nice job keeping all of the data. so that we were able to submit the reimbursement grant. That'll buy a little bit of salt. Absolutely.

40:25 – 40:41Speaker 12

Well, not as much as it would last year. And thank you for your team being able to keep up with that large snowfall. I think we had a really good success here in Beaver Creek with that. Right.

40:41Speaker 14

It was a tremendous team effort. The guys at the garage are awesome at these kind of events.

40:48Speaker 17

I'll move to approve resolution 26-40. Second.

40:52 – 41:04Speaker 12

I have a motion and a second to approve resolution 26-40. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Liquor license. You're back.

41:05 – 41:33Speaker 26

Thank you. All right. The Ohio Department of Commerce Division of Liquor Control sent notification of a request for a new liquor permit for Ohio CVS Stores LLC, CVS Pharmacy Store 3458 at 1331 North Fairfield Road. There were no required record checks on this request and staff does not have any objections or concerns with this permit. Staff is recommending this application request move forward without comment.

41:37 – 42:03Speaker 12

motion motion to motion to accept without comment I have a motion and a second to accept without comment all those in favor signify by saying aye opposed and that brings us to citizen comments you'd like to come and address council on any issue please come to the podium state your name and address and you'll have three minutes it can be donated up to six more minutes from other people in the audience

42:22Speaker 1

Hello, I'm Summer Shaw. I'd like to donate my time to Kelly Campbell, please.

42:28Speaker 12

What's your address?

42:29Speaker 1

4229 Ridgecliff Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio, 45440.

42:37Speaker 24

Hi, my name is Laura Keller. I live at 3140 Shaker Town Road, and I would like to donate my three minutes to Kelly Campbell.

42:51 – 50:50Speaker 28

Hi, I'm Kelly Campbell, 4229 Ridgecliff Drive. I'm the one that they're speaking about. Good evening. I'll be honest, I am a little exhausted standing up here tonight. And I think a lot of the people who have been coming to these meetings are exhausted too. You guys also might be. We've spent months trying to explain why we oppose this project, and I'm not sure that the city understands what we're actually saying. after the last meeting the message i took away was at this point our efforts are essentially futile and i think that's a pretty remarkable message to hear from the people that we're coming to speak to if the public process is supposed to give residents an opportunity to influence decisions telling them that their efforts are futile is a pretty discouraging way to conduct the process I've also been thinking a lot about a conversation I had with Councilmember Bills at a recent meeting we were both at. She pulled me aside and said somewhat sternly, Kelly, come here, I want to talk to you. And I asked her, maybe not that harshly, I asked her, hey, why are you giving me the stink eye? What's that for? She admitted she was, but then she asked me essentially, what do these people even want? And I thought the answer was pretty simple. In fact, I was a little surprised that it even still needs to be asked. They've been very clear what they want. They want the city to stop the project. short of that i think the biggest problem is that the city and the residents are talking past each other the city says we've reduced the width of the shared use paths we scaled back parts of the project we talked to property owners and we've offered to replace or compensate even for for some of the trees and i understand that those are changes but the residents aren't saying hey we really like the project but could you make the path a few feet narrower They're saying, we don't believe this project at this scale is necessary. And those are two very different conversations. I don't want to minimize the changes that the city's made. The city has reduced impacts, they've narrowed paths, they've tried to work with individual property owners and those things matter. I understand why the city would view those as meaningful efforts to respond to public concerns. But those concessions don't answer the central question. They assume that the project is going forward and they ask residents how to make it less objectionable. the residents are asking a different question why are we doing this project at all and why does this need to be done so large when residents get three minutes to speak and then they have to wait two weeks to come back and speak again that really isn't dialogue they make their case council listens maybe there's a brief response and then everybody goes home and then we rinse and repeat So when the response becomes, what more do these people want? I think the answer is they want to know that their fundamental objection is actually being considered. And I still haven't heard a compelling explanation for why Shaker Town needs to become a three-lane roadway. We keep hearing about grant funding, but I haven't heard enough about the underlying need. What current traffic problem are we solving? What projected demand requires three lanes? And what's changed since the original studies that supported the funding? we looked at whether the assumptions behind those studies still reflect the reality of beaver creek today i understand that grant money is available but or has been already made available but we can get someone else to pay for it isn't the same thing as we need to build it a grant explains why the city can build the project it doesn't explain why the city needs to build it i think we should be asking a bigger fiscal question what does the road cost beaver creek over its entire useful life if we build substantially more pavement and infrastructure than we actually need today we're not eliminating that cost we're creating a larger maintenance obligation for the future 30 years from now, someone is going to have to repave this road. And at that point, it won't matter whether the original construction was heavily subsidized by ODOT. Beaver Creek taxpayers will be responsible for maintaining what we build. And a grant that can make the upfront cost look inexpensive now WON'T MAKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE INEXPENSIVE OVER ITS LIFETIME. IF WE'RE BUILDING SUBSTANTIALLY MORE ROADWAY THAN WE NEED, WE'RE POTENTIALLY TRADING A SHORT-TERM FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR A LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION. SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO STEP BACK FROM THE QUESTION OF HOW MUCH MONEY CAN WE SAVE BY USING THIS GRANT AND ASK THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION, DOES THIS PROJECT AT THIS SCALE REPRESENT THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BEAVER CREEK AND THAT SHAKERTOWN ACTUALLY NEEDS? There's another cost that doesn't show up neatly on the project spreadsheet, the cost to the people who live along this road. And I'm sorry if I'm boring you. The property is affected. Their trees are affected. Their daily lives are affected. Their peace and quiet is affected. Those aren't abstract costs to the people who have been coming here and speaking about them. And I also have to say something about the tone of this process, because at this point, some of us are feeling not simply unheard, but treated with disdain. I don't say that lightly, and I don't mean that every council member has treated residents this way, but when residents are repeatedly interrupted, when they're told their efforts are futile, when the response of months of public opposition is essentially, what more do these people want? It's difficult not to come away feeling that our participation is being viewed as annoyance rather than as a legitimate part of the public process. And that's particularly frustrating because the people standing at this microphone aren't asking for special treatment. They're asking to be taken seriously when they raise questions about a major expenditure of public resources and a project that will permanently change their neighborhood. Finally, I would ask the city to recognize something that residents opposing this project aren't confused about what the city has changed. They understand the concessions. They just don't believe that those concessions solve the fundamental problem. They don't want a slightly smaller version of a product project that they don't believe is necessary. and i don't think that a appropriate response to that is what more do you want i think the appropriate response is what are they telling us that we haven't adequately answered because i don't think that residents are failing to understand the city's position i think the city may be failing to understand the residents position there's a difference between saying we heard you we made some changes and being able to explain in concrete terms why this particular project is necessary beyond just the fact that funding is available for it IF THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE REPAID, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD. IF THERE'S SAFETY PROBLEMS, LET'S TALK ABOUT SAFETY PROBLEMS. IF THE CURRENT TRAFFIC VOLUMES REQUIRE THREE LANES, LET'S TALK ABOUT CURRENT TRAFFIC DATA THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT NEED. AND IF THERE'S FUTURE DEMANDS THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE PROJECTIONS. WE HAVE A GRANT THAT WILL PAY FOR THIS PROJECT IS A FUNDING EXPLANATION. IT'S NOT A NEEDS ASSESSMENT. AND HONESTLY, I THINK WE NEED A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONVERSATION AT THIS POINT. THESE COUNCIL MEETINGS DON'T SEEM TO BE SERVING ANYBODY PARTICULARLY WELL. RESIDENTS COME HERE AND GET A FEW MINUTES TO SPEAK. COUNCIL RESPONDS BRIEFLY IF AT ALL. AND THEN WE ALL COME BACK TWO WEEKS LATER TO DO IT AGAIN. AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WALKS AWAY FEELING PARTICULARLY SATISFIED. PROBABLY NOT YOU GUYS EITHER. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SIMPLE REQUEST. LET'S SIT DOWN AND ACTUALLY TALK TO EACH OTHER. AN ACTUAL CONVERSATION WHERE RESIDENTS CAN EXPLAIN THEIR CONCERN AND COUNCIL CAN EXPLAIN THE CITY'S REASONING AND WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND RESPOND TO THE ANSWERS IN REAL TIME. NOT ASKING FOR A GUARANTEE THAT WE'LL GET THE OUTCOME THAT WE WANT BUT I'M ASKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. And to have the kind of dialogue that should have happened in the first place. If there's questions that the residents are raising that haven't been adequately answered, maybe we can address those too. Because ultimately, I think that's what the public process is supposed to be about. Not just giving people a microphone, but actually listening what they have to say. Thank you.

50:51Speaker 12

Thank you very much.

51:03 – 52:55Speaker 25

Hi, my name is Kimberly Jackson. I live at 427 Greenmount in Oakwood. I come at it from a little different point of view because I'm not a resident. But I was always taught that elected officials should, as best they can and within reason, govern their area while respecting the wishes of the constituents who elected them. I do not live in Beaver Creek, so I didn't elect you. But I'm sitting amongst people who did elect you, and they are hurting. They live in a beautiful area of Beaver Creek lined with mature trees and green grass. I drive this stretch of road nearly every day, and it's one of my favorite parts. It's very tranquil. It's easy to navigate. Once a week, I walk a dog that lives on this stretch of Shaker Town. So although I didn't elect you, I'm very invested in the area. As long as I've followed this saga, I've yet to hear any citizen speak in favor of the road widening or the sidewalk installation project. What I have heard is lots of people opposed to it. They've gathered facts, respectfully come to meeting after meeting to state their case, and they continue to be met with opposition from counsel to reconsider the project. At the last meeting, one member somewhat sarcastically said something like, I think we all know the process by now. I found that comment incredibly disrespectful to those who are doing their best to help you understand their concerns. Why do you insist on spending money on a project that doesn't fix an identified problem? Yeah, it's great when the state pays for a portion of a project, but you're still spending a million dollars of your own money to solve a problem that doesn't even exist. I encourage you to spend some time on this stretch of road. Park on one of the side streets. Watch the traffic patterns. Look at how much you're taking from citizens who trusted you to keep their best interest in mind. Once you see the effects of a proposed project that no one wants, I pray you change your collective minds and cancel this project. Thank you.

53:08Speaker 19

Bill Keller, 3140 Shaker Town Road.

53:12 – 55:44Speaker 16

I'm asking you to look at Shaker Town Road based on the traffic and safety problems that actually exist today, not an assumption about what might happen years from now. Before the city takes people's property and spends millions of dollars, I believe residents deserve clear evidence that this project is necessary. Where is the documented traffic problem on the particular section of Shaker Town Road that requires widening it from two lanes to three? Where is the congestion that requires a center turn lane? Where is the crash history demonstrating that this turn lane even is necessary? I'm not asking the city to ignore legitimate safety or maintenance problems. If there are specific drainage problems, fix the drainage. If there are specific dangerous locations, fix those locations. If the pavement needs repair, repair the pavement. But that is very different when reconstructing the entire corridor with curbs, gutters, storm sewers, and a center turn lane WHEN THE EXISTING TRAFFIC DOES NOT JUSTIFY THAT SCALE OF PROJECT. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE CENTER TERMINAL. I DON'T BELIEVE RESIDENTS SHOULD LOSE PROPERTY AND HAVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD CHANGED FOR A LANE THAT HASN'T BEEN DEMONSTRATED TO BE NECESSARILY, DEMONSTRATED TO BE NECESSARY BY CURRENT TRAFFIC CONDITIONS. IF THE JUSTIFICATION IS FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, THEN SHOW US THE DEVELOPMENT. SHOW US THE TRAFFIC PROJECTION. SHOW US THE ASSUMPTIONS. and show us why residents today should bear the permanent impacts. The same applies to curbs and gutters. If there's an actual drainage problem, demonstrate it and address it. But please don't tell residents that an expensive urban-style reconstruction is necessary simply because it's part of a preferred design. We're asking for smaller, more appropriate solutions. Maintain the existing roadway. Address documented drainage or safety issues where they actually occur. Do not add a center lane. unless the traffic and crash data demonstrate that it's needed. And do not install curbs and gutters simply because they include it in the current design. Please don't build a road for traffic we don't have. Spend the taxpayers money on problems that actually exist. And before this project moves forward, I respectfully ask councilor to require the city to publicly provide the traffic counts, crash data, traffic projections, cost benefit analysis, and alternative analysis supporting every major component of this project. If the city removes the sitter turn lane, curbs, gutters, and unnecessary widening, what documented existing problem would remain unsolved? And what evidence proves that problem requires a larger project? That's all I have.

56:00 – 57:13Speaker 11

Mr. Mayor, Councilmember, Ferry Hill, 658 Waverly Drive. I'm against this project. I guess you're getting tired of looking at me. But I'll be here long until we decide on something. But I think we should cancel this. All we're doing is going to make it more dangerous. I've got to go across another lane to go one way or the other. And I think Beaver Creek is beautiful right now. And it seems to me like Bucky is going to steal Beaver Creek and you're going to steal my land. And I'm against it. You're looking good tonight, hun. But I want you to take into consideration and disregard this strip of checker town road. I think you're taking my life and putting it in danger.

57:19Speaker 12

You just don't say nothing to me. It's your comment time. This is your time to comment. It's not our time to go back and forth.

57:26Speaker 11

I'd like to hear a little comment. Maybe shut my mouth and sit down or something.

57:32Speaker 12

No, I'm not asking you to do that.

57:35 – 58:20Speaker 11

No, I would. I would appreciate the council member and you, Mayor, that you table this job. We don't need it. All we're doing is creating and going to make... I'll change the name if they put that through from Beaver Creek to Concrete. because they want to put two sidewalks, one on each side of the road, and we don't need them. I've lived there 58 years, and I see one person maybe once every month or two walk up Checkertown Road. But I want you to take consideration and counsel this project. I think it's a waste of money.

58:35 – 1:00:57Speaker 18

Bob Trout, 2187 Bassett Court. And I've been up here many times to talk about this thing, but I'm going to point out a couple of different things. I'm very disappointed with the way you're handling the city residents' money. There's a lack of accountability. And I'm going to talk to some of the residents that we have here, and I'm going to recommend that we change the charter to where all levies will go back to a finite period of time defined rather than a open-end perpetual levy. That way we're going to take control back from that. I'm also going to urge, and I know I've talked to a lot of folks, and a lot of folks have talked to me that they are not in favor of the income tax primarily because of what you folks are doing. Saying, why are we going to give them more money to do more stuff that we don't want? So you need to take heed of that. And the other thing I'm going to be talking with some of these folks over here, there's a 1-800 number that is available and we can notify the federal government because they can come and do an investigation on the state, which gets the federal money and the state will come back and look at you folks and make sure that you are looking at everything and listening to the residents. You folks have gone beyond acceptable to this city. And I'm calling you on it, as is everybody else that's here. And there's a lot of other folks that are not here that are not happy with you. There's a lot of folks that see this video that goes up there, and they said, we saw you talking. We saw everybody up there talking. It's getting people's attention, and it's not getting yours. So what is wrong with you folks? Mr. Mayor, you're sitting in the big chair over there. You need to let the folks that... go out there and look at the projects and everything else like that or expect projects to go in there and make darn sure that they cover everything honestly and accurately and go back and talk to the residents in there. So I've said my piece with you folks, but I'm thinking that it's going to get a little bit ugly. And oh, by the way, this is the first time all of you have been looking at me because usually you're looking down and not. So that's a big improvement. Thank you very much.

1:01:09 – 1:04:41Speaker 29

After hearing, oh wait, first, my name's Kathy Bauer, 3497 Shaker Town Road, on the other side of Fairfield that's being affected. After hearing everybody, I start feeling a little bit silly about the things that I wrote because I wrote more from a let's try to all get along kind of thing. And I'm gonna go ahead and read it. But I do agree that if the project is not truly needed, which I don't feel it is, it should be able to be tabled. I'm kind of a rule follower. And as soon as I heard, well, we've already invested money, we've already got everything in process, we can't go back, then I just kind of accepted that maybe too easily but i'm going to go ahead and read my speech it feels like everyone in this room is tired of stating their concerns and you all must be tired of hearing them i hope you have really heard our complaints and are working on ways to compromise in fact i believe that you have to some degree I'll be interested to hear your suggestions. All of us have bought our homes with high hopes of creating our homesteads and possibly raising our kids on this quiet street. And for many years, that's just what it has been. We all signed those papers when we bought our properties, accepting the fact that there's easements and city can come in and take a certain amount. of your property. Sometimes it's only temporary. We're gonna dig here, cover it back up, and then go away. We understood, oh, I went off topic. We understood that there may be a need for right-of-way easements, some of which would be just temporary disruption but this this feels like the city is overstepping some of these houses have are already very very close to the road and now they're facing the fact that the road will be that much closer to their front doors it's certainly understandable that this situation would offend the sensibilities of these families My husband and I have lived on Shaker Town Road since 1982. We raised our daughters here and always reminded them of the dangers of the road. More than once we've had cars lose control and end up in our front yard. Now imagine how we feel about having the road that much closer to our front steps. Not to mention the road sounds from the traffic. that much closer, that much louder, of course there will be pushback.

1:04:42Speaker 12

Do you have much more? I don't want to interrupt, but... Help donate. Okay, come to the... Sorry.

1:04:48Speaker 29

97 Shaker Town Road.

1:04:49Speaker 15

I donate my time. Thank you. Okay.

1:05:05 – 1:07:34Speaker 29

My husband and I have lived on Shaker Town since 1982. We raised our daughters here and always reminded them of the dangers of the road. More than once, we've had cars lose control and end up in our front yard. Now imagine how we feel about having the road that much closer to our front steps, not to mention the road sounds from the traffic that much closer, that much louder. Of course there will be pushback, but we sign those papers that we, not that we had a choice. We are just requesting that you limit the amount. We understand that occasionally we may need to accept these changes, but I don't think that this plan took into consideration just how many beautiful mature trees would be destroyed changing the face of our properties. Some of us have planted trees and hedges in order to better protect our children and ourselves. I know that you have already invested time and money in this program and that you can't just back out. I get that. All I'm asking is that you adjust your plans back a bit. I would also like before and after drawings of what this would look like. I would love to see you allowing round table talks where we can sit and chat and brainstorm together giving people a more intimate setting not like the meetings here where you all sit up there and listen and we all take our turns standing at the microphone it creates an us and them atmosphere you are not our enemies In the long run, change will happen. It's inevitable. Some people will be pleased, some people will be appeased, and some people will be unhappy. But at least people will know that they feel or feel that they are truly heard. They'll know that they tried. It would bring them some sense of control. This would go a long way to settling the minds and hearts of those affected. Thank you.

1:07:46 – 1:10:31Speaker 9

I promise not to take more than three minutes. My name is Barbara Massey and I live at 743 Timberwood Drive in Beaver Creek. To leave my home, I take Greer to Fairfield more than likely i take shaker i take timberwood to shaker town and turn left or right there because there's less traffic fairfield and i realize a lot of it is because of congestion and backup from the ever ongoing construction on fairfield But there is more traffic on Fairfield. I never have a problem getting out on Shaker Town. To say we need to increase the size of Shaker Town, I don't see it. To say we need sidewalks, I dare you to go out there and count the people walking on Shaker Town. You're going to be sitting there all day not seeing anyone. They don't need sidewalks. They don't need sidewalks on both sides of the street for people who aren't going to walk. There's no businesses. Yeah, there's a church there operating on Sunday mornings, but there are not people walking. They don't need all of this extra stuff going on. Consider if you lived on Shaker Town or just off Shaker Town. How would you feel about all of this land being taken to increase the size of a road that doesn't have the traffic to support it and sidewalks with nobody to walk on them? They're losing their property. because of something that I myself cannot see being needed. I worked under a government agent for many years here. I understand the protocol and the right of dominant domain and stuff, but you have to consider the lives that are being affected at the same time and is it worth it i personally do not feel it is and i'm hoping i'll be able to continue to go to shaker town and get out of my development

1:10:42Speaker 12

Please come to the microphone if you don't mind.

1:10:48Speaker 17

Joe Villani, 710 Carlsbrook Drive. And I'm going to donate my time to Heather. Thank you.

1:11:03Speaker 8

Heather Harvey, 3180 Shaker Town.

1:11:06Speaker 6

It's ironic that I opened up my last comments to you all with a line about your complete lack of respect for us.

1:11:11 – 1:16:58Speaker 8

Because as I'm sure you all remember, just before I spoke, the mayor asked me if I received your letter and then proceeded to basically tell me, my neighbors, this city, and the media that none of this mattered. The message was loud and clear. Let me remind you that we are just as tired of coming here as you are of listening to us. We all have families too. I could list a thousand things I'd rather be doing than standing here, but someone has to stick up for what is right. It's a shame it's none of you. Aren't several of you at risk of losing your seat next year? I heard there's an election coming up. Is that why none of you are brave enough to speak up? Trust me, doing the right thing will prove to this city that their vote should be for you and not somebody new. I would be ashamed to have my name associated with approving projects based on lies, outdated facts and just going with the flow so as to not rock the boat. The only problem is that this boat is sinking. Word gets around and people are starting to ask more questions. When this room continues to fill up week after week, don't say I told you so. What would you do if you were in our shoes? I'll tell you something that's really bothered me since I stood right there in this room in the PI meeting in August of 2025. I stood in a room surrounded by tons of irate people. All but one person was in opposition. Anybody want to take a stab who that person was? She just so happens to be sitting up there with you. You can imagine my surprise when a few weeks later I found out she was elected to council. It's no wonder she was cheerleading this project, huh? Something else that didn't sit well with me was that there was a man from ODOT there who just argued with us. He told us that our facts were opinions. I guess quoting traffic counts from ODOT's very own website and crash data obtained from our chief of police, him right there, those are just matters of opinions and not straight facts. Nah, it's the cold hard truth and it's time you guys admit it. Stop perpetuating these lies. This is only getting worse as time goes on. You're making yourselves look even more ridiculous by sending us letters with more lies. We all know this project won't be done in 12 months. So for every day over a year, are we allowed to bill you? Or how about the BS statement regarding needing to, quote, support the growing city? Who proofread that letter? You do realize how stupid it sounds to claim this project is needed, right? Because despite the fact that this population has increased, traffic data doesn't support that. Shaker Town is maintained. Sounds like you all are the ones with the opinions. This project isn't built on facts. It's driven by opinions. This is a classic version of a want and not a need. I'd like to publicly acknowledge that one of you made a point to confront one of us in a very uncomfortable manner. Not only did you abuse your quote position of power by humiliating my friend, but you dropped my name and called me a liar. Let's be real clear here. Everything I've said here has been factual. It's hilarious that you said you were offended we've been calling you liars when you literally stood there and called me one. Are we in kindergarten? How about you come say those words to my face and let's have a real conversation. How about all of you get your acts together and start behaving yourselves in public gatherings? Approaching someone in public doing what you did is not very becoming of a publicly appointed official. This city deserves better. Shame on you and shame on all of you. This is playing out exactly like you see on TV. The crooked politicians go around town paying people off, bullying them to give up and join their side. I'm here to tell you we are not giving up or giving in. You can continue going around insulting my character and my integrity all you want. But if you expect I won't be here on Monday nights to give it right back, you're mistaken. What's clear is you aren't listening. In your public humiliation event, you had the nerve to ask, quote, what do they want? As a concerned nurse, I mean this with all due respect. Are any of you deaf? Did you black out during these meetings? Have we not been perfectly clear? Facts are not lies or opinions. This stupid project was created to fix two problems that we have time and time again proven do not exist. So call it what you want. A lie, an oversight, a mistake, fraud, irresponsible. It isn't too late to stop this project. Quit gaslighting us with the penalty you will face and accept responsibility for what you've done. Start pursuing projects that this city actually needs instead of what you want. Everyone at home listening needs to hear this. These people sitting up here do not care what we want. They take credit for one minor change in a project that I personally spent hours fighting for. I made all the calls. I did all the research. I sent all the emails. If this bothers you as much as it does me, please contact me. Show up here next meeting and join us in our fight for what's right, because Beaver Creek deserves better. Oh, and P.S., nice try claiming the reduction in the shared use path was driven by your efforts. You didn't have the money to pay Mr. Weikheiser for the depreciation of his property, so you had to tuck your tails and find another solution. Backing off his land meant you didn't owe him, and thus the eight-foot path was born. Yeah, I bet you didn't know that. Bet they didn't tell you that. That's what happened. You were supposed to pay him, and you didn't have the money to do it, so that's why you had to back off his land, and that's where you got to the eight-foot path. Funny you forgot to mention that in your letter of lies. I guess telling the truth is too hard. I guess sitting in those seats gives you some kind of immunity. And I guess Beaver Creek isn't the city I thought it was. Yesterday I saw a poster that I thought applies to the situation. You can't change the cards you're dealt just the way you play the hand. In closing... You asked me if I got your letter last time. Well, I got a second letter from you guys, and I wholeheartedly appreciate your efforts to silent me. Game on.

1:17:15 – 1:19:58Speaker 7

My name is Ian Crow. I live on 2121 Prudence Drive, Beaver Creek, Ohio. My complaint is that these new e-bikes that are riding around that kids love and stuff, and I understand because I'm a kid at heart, but technically it's kind of causing a nuisance. For one, I'm afraid that I'm going to get run over by these and get seriously hurt, and I've read reports that some of these bikes malfunction and blow up and stuff. But... the reason why i say this like shouldn't seeing how these bikes have motors shouldn't you have a license for this because a moped has a motor you have to ride it on the street with a license but the kids are riding on the walk path which i understand but basically saying is like i see these i see kids riding their bike on the special needs park that i practice softball on and there are marks on the turf And I'm trying to save the taxpayers money by saying, why are you destroying it? And these bikes are kind of made like dirt bikes. I mean, you see kids wearing dirt bike helmets because they know that these bikes go 20 miles to 28 miles per hour. Someone can get seriously hurt. And I understand Councilman Upton said to me that they are looking into it, but I, for one, am worried about my safety. I mean, I understand I can't drive myself because of my learning challenges, but there has to be responsibility. I understand kids want to have fun. It's like riding a motorcycle and stuff, but... WITH GREAT POWER COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND LIKE I SAID, IF KIDS WANT TO WRITE IT, THEN GET A LICENSE. IF THE INSURANCE, IF YOU NEED INSURANCE, WELL, THAT'S UP TO THE PARENTS. OH, AND ONE OTHER THING, THAT WHEN I WALK ON THE WALK PATH TO MY JOB AT LOWES OR WHEN I'M WALKING FROM THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF CRACKS, LIKE SIDEWAY CRACKS, ALL THE WAY UP CLOSE TO SPEEDWAY, AND I CAN PUT MY WHOLE FOOT in there and i would ask that money would be used to fill up those cracks because if i ride my regular bike i'm afraid that i'm gonna get hurt and seriously hurt and i don't want to cause the taxpayers money and stuff i'm looking at for myself and others thank you thank you hello

1:19:59 – 1:23:23Speaker 30

Lori Villani, 710 Carlsbrook. OF COURSE, ABOUT SHAKERTOWN. WE'VE COME BEFORE YOU NOW REPEATEDLY TO ASK FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE CANCELED BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES. YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT US, NOT PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE DRIVING ON SHAKERTOWN TEN YEARS FROM NOW, BUT TO REPRESENT THOSE WHO LIVE ALONG THERE NOW. NOT DRIVERS IN THE FUTURE, BUT US, THE CURRENT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE CHOSEN TO LIVE ON SHAKERTOWN OR JUST OFF THE ROAD AND DRIVE IT EVERY DAY. um we see the number of vehicles that drive on this road we know that we have little difficulty getting on and off of carlsbrook on and off of merrick we see there's a nominal amount of driveways and roads which require a left turn to enter on the south side of shaker town there's three roads and i believe approximately eight driveways on the north side of shaker town where we are there's only two roads and seven driveways In your letter that you sent to us, you stated about the growth of Beaver Creek. I know Beaver Creek has grown. The subdivision on the north side of Shaker Town, where we live, has room for no more houses. It's built out. The housing area on the south side of Shaker Town also can't have any more building unless there's something that you all are telling us. So along this route, the number of left turns, there really can't be any more left turns than there already are. We turn left frequently off of Shaker Town and it is a rare occurrence that there is a car behind us that is being delayed because we had to slow down to make our turn. So just because Beaver Creek is growing and I grew up in Beaver Creek, it is growing. But that doesn't mean it's growing around by us because it has not been, not anymore. My understanding is that you apply for this grant with numbers that were based on the pre-reconfiguration of Shaker Town and 35. If this is not the case, please show us that. My mother has lived on Shaker Town for 55 years. We've lived just off Shaker Town for six and we just do not see the traffic volume, whether we're driving or just sitting in our backyard. Also, in your letter you noted that you had spent almost a million dollars, but if you would have come to us first before you spent anything and had a meeting with the affected citizens and listened to what our concerns were, as our elected representatives, you could have saved that money. I can personally tell you that if my husband and I felt this project was necessary, we would support it. So I just wonder, I mean, do you not hold a meeting because you knew we would be against it? And so you might not have gotten what you all wanted, which was a nice wider road. If that's the case, then you're just pushing your desires on us. The last time the city income tax was on the ballot, I voted for it even though it would have negatively affected me because at that time I worked in the city, of course I live in the city, but I'm not gonna vote for it this time because you're using our money against us on pushing this road project onto us that we do not want. so my hope is um if you go through one little two lines my hope is that if you go through with this project those of you on council will drive this project in this road a lot because you can then enjoy the sterile sterile roadway the wonderful three lanes curbs and no trees because those of us who live there will not be enjoying it thank you thank you

1:23:35 – 1:26:32Speaker 6

Hi there, good evening Mr. Mayor and council members. Lisa Nybert, 2970 Shaker Town Road. Hi. I'm here again in opposition to the road widening project. Our city has a responsibility to maintain our streets. This area of Shaker Town, this .68 miles, has been neglected for about nine years or more. I would like to know why, officially, from documentation. I would like to know why, when it had previously been scheduled for resurfacing, what the budget was and why it was not completed. We, the residents, have provided you factual data that you guys cannot refute, yet you repudiate the data and have stated that you are proceeding with the project. I think that was blatantly clear in our letter we got a few weeks ago that it is going forward. Tonight, where we are at, factually. This area of Shaker Town does need maintenance, resurfacing, and storm sewer improvements. I believe these things are all covered slash funded by our current street levies. Project 119964 is not past the point of no build. Beaver Creek has not received the funds, the federal funds, so you don't have to give it back. Your current expenditures are already over budget. That won't be a total loss, as you can still use much of the engineering design drawings that have been spent that $1 million on so far towards the necessary storm drainage and resurfacing and overall traffic needs, just not this particular project. The federal funds applied for, sadly, were the wrong funds. In my opinion, as a citizen and as a business owner who's done government contracting for my entire life, what you are faced with right now is you need to withdraw your application. With all the newer information, you can apply for a correct grant that will do what we need done and ease the burden of the taxpayers. When I do my job wrong, if I make choices for my business and my business' future without doing my due diligence, I have to accept and manage my way through the consequences. And that is what I'm expecting Beaver Creek, when I say Beaver Creek, all parties, you as the whole of it, I'm expecting you guys to do that. It's not devastating. It won't be a pleasant experience, but it's still good business. Be responsible and do what's best for our city. Thank you.

1:26:52Speaker 19

REX TURNER, 1456 NEW WAY DRIVE.

1:27:02 – 1:27:37Speaker 20

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GARY DUNKLE. I LIVE AT 3040 SHAKERTOWN ROAD AND I STAND BEFORE YOU IN 100% OPPOSITION TO THE SHAKERTOWN ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, PROJECT ID NUMBER 119964. OUR GROUP OPPOSES THIS WASTE OF LOCAL TAXPAYER FUNDS AND FEDERAL FUNDS AND WE'VE CONSISTENTLY BROUGHT TO YOUR ALL'S ATTENTION MULTIPLE TIME FACTS THAT DON'T SUPPORT THE PROJECT, AND YOU'VE HEARD MORE OF THEM TONIGHT. SO ADDITIONALLY, I'M GOING TO GIVE EACH OF YOU SOME HARD COPY OF SOME STUFF WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

1:27:37Speaker 19

SO IF I COULD GET YOU TO PASS THAT DOWN AND GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

1:27:48 – 1:32:12Speaker 20

THESE FACTS ARE JUST OVERWHELMINGLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GUYS AS A GROUP CAN SIT HERE AND LOOK AT THESE FACTS AND LISTEN TO THE FACTS THAT YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN YOU AND HAVE ANY CLUE OF WHY YOU WOULD EVEN APPROVE THIS THING. IT'S JUST ABSURD. SO NUMBER ONE, THE MDRP FUNDING APPLICATION, FIRST PAGE OF WHAT I GAVE YOU ALL, states on there that that the urban major collector the the third highlighted area there is 5300 vehicles per day and that is not even correct if you'll look on the data that i've supplied attached to that there is no 5300 vehicle per day count on there so your engineering department is just making up numbers and throwing them on there number one number two that whole that whole that whole thing was based on based on pre shaker town road 35 access. Um, if you look at the counts today, um, our counts have gone from like our traffic counts have gone from like, you know, 6,300 CARS A DAY. BACK IN 2016 TO 2019, 2020, THEY DROPPED TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, 3,300 PER DAY. SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING $5 MILLION TO PUT IN A NEW TWO-THIRDS OF A MILE ROADWAY? I MEAN, WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE? Can you tell me that? I don't think you can. The facts speak for themselves. You know, I mean, and it goes on in the data that I have given you all. It gives you specific year by year by year from 25 all the way back to all the way back to 2016, this is ODOT information that gives you the daily traffic counts of Shaker Town Road, and it's measured right there at Carthage. Yeah, right there at Carthage. That's where the counts are taken. And it's just, I just don't, AGAIN, HALF OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE SIX YEARS AGO, AND YOU ALL WANT TO SPEND $5 MILLION ON A ROAD EXPANSION. I MEAN, WHAT SENSE DOES THAT MAKE? I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO HEAR AN ANSWER FROM YOU SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY. IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. NUMBER TWO, THE SAME APPLICATION HAS IDENTIFIED THE FUND SOURCE THAT THIS PROJECT IS TO BE FUNDED UNDER IS, NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS Again, going back to the first page that I gave you, please identify the fund source you anticipate this project to be funded under. They're saying suggested congestion mitigation and air quality. What congestion do we have on Shaker Town Road? what air quality problems do we have on shaker town road now now you guys want to take 125 trees out of shaker town road yeah we're going to have some air quality issues but how can you how can you how can you as a city council and how can you as a mayor allow your engineering department to send this kind of crap in it's false information it's absolutely false information It just baffles me that you as a council that are responsible for the employees of this city can allow this kind of information to pass. It makes no sense whatsoever. Number three, additionally, the MVRPC application states, please provide a short description of OF THE NEEDS AND BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S ATTACHED TO IT. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, LIKE, AFTER THE TRAFFIC REPORTS, I THINK IT'S LIKE THE FIFTH, SIXTH PAGE BACK, IN THE SPACEPRINT BELOW, PROVIDE A SHORT DESCRIPTION OF THE NEED AND BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT. SO THEY'RE SAYING, YOUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT IS SAYING THE PROJECT IS NEEDED TO PROVIDE SAFE PASSAGE TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC THROUGH THE CORRIDOR OF SHAKERTOWN ROAD BY REDUCING ACCIDENTS.

1:32:13Speaker 14

We've already been through that 10 times.

1:32:15 – 1:35:06Speaker 20

There are no accidents on Shaker Town Road. There are deer strikes, but we don't have accidents on Shaker Town Road. But they're using that as a basis for $5 million of expenditure. And what sense does that make? Additionally, reading on, by reducing accidents, reducing congestion, what congestion do we have on Shaker Town Road? and improving safety to the general public. There's no safety issues. So this is just all being created by your engineering department for no reason whatsoever other than to spend taxpayers' money, to spend $1.5 million of Beaver Creek taxpayer money and $3 million of federal money. It's just crazy. How can you guys approve this stuff? There's no logic to it. There's no facts to it. ACCIDENTS WILL BE REDUCED. WE DON'T HAVE ACCIDENTS. AND SAFETY IMPROVED THROUGH A TWO-WAY TURN LANE. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ISSUES. NUMBER FOUR, IT GOES ON THE NEXT PAGE IF YOU LOOK AT PROJECT BENEFITS AND COMPLETE STREET DISCUSSION. NUMBER ONE, PROJECT BENEFITS. IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW ALONG SHAKERTOWN ROAD. WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRAFFIC FLOW. Number two, improved safety along Shaper Town Road. We don't have safety issues. Improved pedestrian access. We don't have pedestrians on Shaper Town Road. Improved bicycle access. We don't have bicycles on Shaper Town Road. They are creating all this stuff and you guys approve it. How can you do that? It's all created. It's just, there's no facts to any of this stuff. No facts whatsoever. So here we are in closing. The facts are I presented you all again to reinforce the fact that your engineering department has been very, very inaccurate in the facts that they have used in this application process. And your choices are three. You, Mr. Mayor, and you city council members do what is professionally and ethically correct and bring this project to a stop. It's all wrong. Number two. If not, you are feeling in your roles as representatives of the citizens of Beaver Creek. We're travels fast and I suspect that many, many more citizens of Beaver Creek are going to know about your handling of this project. Um, if it's not stopped now, number three, you all are moving us closer to seek out alternative means of bringing this awful project to an end. And I don't want to go there. So I thank you, Mr. Mayor and City Council members, for your time. Please cancel this project immediately. It benefits nobody. Thank you.

1:35:06 – 1:35:34Speaker 12

Thank you. Anyone else?

1:35:45 – 1:39:23Speaker 5

Yeah. Again, I am Janice Jacobs, 3040 Dayton Xenia Road. I have just lived through what these poor people you're going to make live through. I've lived through it since the 5th of July 2025 with the widening and the removal and replacement of the sidewalks. When it started, I believed that, well, this nightmare is a wonderful thing to start going through every single day. I was paid for five feet of my frontage of my yard. Next thing I know, not only did they take five feet of that frontage, they turned around and came up my driveway FIVE FEET BEHIND WHAT THEY HAD PAID AND TOOK OUT A RETAINING WALL IN THE PROCESS. I NOW HAVE WATER STANDING IN PLACES IT NEVER HAS STOOD BEFORE BECAUSE THAT DOGGONE SIDEWALK IS ABOVE GRADE. EVERY YARD JUST ABOUT THROUGH THAT AREA FROM WHERE THEY STARTED IT FROM THE LOG CABIN DENTISTRY DOWN TO MAINE SCHOOL All slopes down towards the south. They built that sidewalk above grade. We could at one time, before this, pull directly out onto Dayton Xenia. Straight out. Every house through there. Except for the dentist, or not dentist, but the veterinarian on the hill next to me. Now, we have to go up and over a hump to get out on Dayton Xenia. That is acting as a dam. On the right side, as I'm facing south, on the right side of my driveway, I had this lovely drainage culvert. It's now above where the water is supposed to be draining. because of this lovely project that you guys just finished. I now have ponding water in the opposite side of the tree that's in my front yard, big enough that I can put fish in and go fishing. When it gets overflowing, it now runs down and it is cutting a gully in my front yard across all of that beautiful new blacktop you put on my driveway. so yes everyone this is what you're going to be looking forward to if they pass this and go forward with this i hope you don't because you've actually ruined dayton xenia through there because of all the trees that you've cut down for this because of all the construction and the destruction of that construction Don't do this. Don't do this to the Shaker Town neighborhoods. Don't do this to Shaker Town.

1:39:55Speaker 12

Alright, seeing none, I will close the Senate's comments. Council time. Councilman Litterell.

1:40:03 – 1:46:08Speaker 19

Thank you, Mayor. Again, thanks everybody for coming out. There was a a lot of comments and some new things we haven't heard before but a lot of things we've that's been repeated and i understand the desire to have a back and forth with us up here this project here was a long-term planning goal with the city before i was even elected these major through fair areas we can pretend today that we feel the traffic isn't high in that area and like it'll never increase in the next year or two the city does make choices and attempts to see into the future we've tried to stop projects like the gas station that went in because we knew that the overpass down there, everybody wants it. If a project like that does happen, you will see increases in traffic on Shaker Town. Absolutely. All the projects that are currently happening in the township, Beaver Creek Township, when those are all completed and filled you will see traffic increasing on shaker town road the shaker town road project isn't this section of roadway that we're discussing isn't the only section of shaker town road that has been expanded over the years this is a continuation of a project that's been moving forward This roadway is in front of your homes and I get that and I understand how it directly impacts you because you're the residents that live there. However, you are not the only people that use that road. There are people all over the city and outside the city that use that road and that will continue using that roadway. The roadway is being developed by the city as a whole. Everybody's paying for it, not just the individuals that live in that area. The property take that people have made comments about is this project is an anomaly in the fact that it does not take a lot of people's private property. Most of this project is happening in the right of way. the The comments that were made regarding not being MLL 204, I don't know where those things came from. I will tell you that me personally, I went to NBRPC, had discussions with the grant writers, the approval and the head of NBRPC in regards to this project. calls were made to ODOT to see about reducing this sidewalk because that was what we were hearing. We wanted to do something to say we understand that a 10-foot sidewalk didn't make sense to you. They agreed. It didn't have anything to do with payments not being able to be afforded so I don't know where that comes from we all hear things and sometimes we hear things that we want to hear I like this project in the sense that i was on shaker town road today i was west of fairfield road though i wasn't all the way down where you were today and cars were directly in front of me two of them moved over to the center lane to turn left into driveways which allowed me to continue on in the roadway while they stayed in the middle lane and cars coming west while they waited it does allow for safer traffic this is an improvement to storm water I hope the lady from Dayton Xenia has contacted the engineering department. I know that's the first anybody up here has heard anything like that. I can promise you. And I hope you've made contact with the engineering department to get something out there to get a resolution to that immediately before it goes any further. I do know that we've had record rainfall in the month of August, which is crazy. But I hope that you do that. The idea that this developing this roadway decreases property value is unprecedented. Ladies and gentlemen, if there was no property taken from an individual, It can't decrease the property value for that individual. I came out of line. I do want to address Ms. Harvey specifically.

1:46:11Speaker 12

Sir, you've had your time with council time.

1:46:14 – 1:48:43Speaker 19

Miss Harvey, you stated when you were making your statements, I thought you were looking at me. I'm not sure if you've heard somebody state that I said something about you to somebody. Okay. I just wanted to make sure you knew, you knew that I had never. So I wanted to, I wanted to, I'm just trying to address the things that I heard because people say, and this is how much people wanted to hear the back and forth by everybody walking out of the room. I'm just making statements, ma'am. The I've heard tonight that there's been no accidents. And then I heard another individual say they've had cars in their front yard. Okay. The this is I've heard I've heard That's fine. I'm okay. I'm not mad at anybody. I'm just making statements no different than what you were doing when you were standing here, okay? The comment about wanting to do away with all levees and make them in because you don't like roads being fixed, that right there makes no sense to me. I don't know why anybody would make comments like that. I don't know why anybody would say something like that. um and i do want to end by saying that and i wish i'd have said this last week and i should have said more the letter that was sent to everybody was signed by the mayor and i did see this letter before it went out i do endorse what mayor adams had to say in that letter this project is moving forward in from my opinion because it is a project that we approved last year as part of the long-term plan for the city of beaver creek not only for traffic that day but future traffic problems that are going to come in the future And I know I've upset some people. It's not the first time I've upset people. I'm retired law enforcement. I've made people mad every day. And I apologize if I hurt feelings. I know people stormed out of the room. But that's just where I stand. And I thank you for my time. I yield my time. And that's all I have to say.

1:48:46Speaker 12

Thank you. Councilman Dewar.

1:48:49 – 1:57:24Speaker 27

Appreciate it, Mayor. And I want to thank everyone in attendance today. I know it's exhausting to come out multiple times. We do listen. It takes a while to think it through. And I want to make a statement to all of you today. I don't anticipate that I'll change any minds, and I don't anticipate that I'll assuage anyone. I know that there's significant cynicism of government, and I understand that. But I'm a neighbor, I'm a human being. And I mean you no harm, I really don't. I'm trying to do what's best for the city as a whole. I'm one of seven members of council, and I haven't discussed my statements with anyone. If we start on a macro level, When the city started in 1980, world population was 4.4 billion. Today it's 8.1. Nationally, it was 230, sorry, 226 million. Today it is 342. In the city, it was 31,000. It is now 47,000. Throughout the entire world we have seen growth, the expansion of areas, the need for upgrades, things of that nature. And so today I really just want to explain some of the trade-offs in my thinking. Whether you agree or disagree, here's some of the backdrop. If we start with a really basic point, on simply the need to repave. I know there's real concern over the amount of repaving that we've seen in Beaver Creek. And I've driven the congestion myself. But what I would like to note to you is that imagine the alternative. Imagine that your roads didn't get paved. Think about cities that don't take care or don't plan ahead. It is something where a city will degrade and fall in the minds of people quite quickly. And so our goal here is to upkeep the city. Should it be paved under the current configuration? Our trade-off is that we have a thoroughfare plan going back to 2019. There are similar examples on North Fairfield, on Kemp, on Grange Hall, on Indian Ripple, and I know that they cause upheaval to the residents that live there. I've gone through similar things in my own life. It's not fun for a season. But at the same time, if we were to look at Shaker Town to its east and to its west, we have seen those infrastructure improvements. Imagine driving through, seeing the improvements in one area, not in the 0.6 miles, and then seeing it again. We, and a number of people have correctly pointed this out, that the thoroughfare plan should have been updated in five years. That's 2024. We initiated a land use plan to update zoning. And so this is something that is on our radar. And as I noted in a previous council meeting, our funding is piecemeal. We have to do it piece by piece. The equivalent is imagine having to pay your mortgage all in one payment. That's why it has to be this quote unquote Frankenstein Road and why we have to plan it and do it appropriately. A great question was raised at a previous meeting. That is, do infrastructure changes lead to property value decreases? I think it's a great question to ask and I've spent significant time trying to research it. It's one of the reasons we don't have a back and forth because we all need just time to go research and to understand. I'm an academic. The best I've found in general is the answer's no. Real estate is almost always a good investment, but there are circumstances, the great recession of 2008, subprime mortgage issues, inflationary issues, localized concerns. And so what I ask you is this, if there's something that we don't know as a council, please send me a peer-reviewed paper that has studied this. I will read it back and forth. Now please, I've been through many of these and I found Can we do an economist? A realtor is specialized in a certain way, but an economist studies wider trends. No, no, it can be global. You just find something. So I found two. I found two. I looked at multiple articles. There's one from the Netherlands in 2016. But if you're looking at the way the infrastructure has changed, its impact on local economy, that's what's giving us examples. It happens when there's infrastructure around major, there's a train station as one example where the infrastructure was upgraded, the property values decreased. It's things like that that I'm interested in studying and learning more. What about the traffic counts? There's a clear difference of position. And let's for a moment take the numbers that were given here. I drive Shaker Town very regularly. My wife works on Shaker Town. I observed some of the same things that you observe. Here's what's on the other side of the ledger. And some here have rightly said, you know, what's happening here and now. But we do have to think through projections that we've been given. And I don't know the answer to these things because they're projections. One is that there is a proposed development of 1600 houses. in the township can i guarantee you that there'll be 1600 houses i have no idea what about a new high school i have no idea but we do need to at least think through the trade-off of an additional several thousand cars potentially per day again i don't know but it's what goes through my mind in terms of thinking and in terms of making a decision The argument was made on sunk costs. I thought that was a very good argument. It really appealed to me. I thought it was very, very thoughtful. The other side of the sunk costs argument is that the road still isn't paved. But on the other side of sunk cost is also opportunity cost. I don't know what happens If we turn this money back, how do MVRPC ODOT look at us when we apply again? We don't know is the answer. That's the challenge to it because again, we're at large members. We represent all of Beaver Creek. If we say no to this, What happens down the line? And we don't know that I'm explaining the trade offs that we have to think through. I'll leave it there, man. Thank you.

1:57:25Speaker 12

Thank you. Councilman bills.

1:57:32 – 2:04:41Speaker 10

So I think out of all of us, I'm the only one that actually lives back in that neighborhood. I've sent my kids to go to our church, which is one of the churches on shaker town and they have to cross from Coy over to the church across the street. There's a whole host of families back there that go to that church. And I can tell you in the almost 20 years of living back there that I've seen multiple young children almost get hit by people on sugar town. And that was your first response to me when I said that the first time we talked about this. I was immediately shut down. But it's the truth. You want us to accept your truth and your feelings about things. But when there's other truths and other experiences, those somehow are not as valid. I understand Heather, how I understand your frustration. I am not trying to change your mind. I don't, I'm not trying to make you like the church is fine with the cycle. Um, but I don't have control over that. I'm not in that position, but my point is Heather is in and for, for everybody, for anybody who lives in a project, Pete lives in a project that He doesn't particularly enjoy all the time. I mean, it happens to all of us at a point. I thought it sucked when the culvert had to be replaced. That was a nightmare. You know, we all lived with that for ages. It seemed like it was unending, but it was necessary. There are no pedestrians on Shaker Town. You are absolutely right because it's dangerous. I wouldn't walk on Shaker Town as an adult and I would never send kids out on Shaker Town. I mean, I have pulled my car over and like put it in the road so kids waiting there can cross. It's scary. So we have, I mean, I have to say I am in support of it will make this street safer. It scares me to even try to go around bicyclists. There are just ditches. There's not even a shoulder to the road. Yeah, there's two, and there's one further down on the other. Yeah, which is better. And I do understand. I mean, when the oak tree issue came up, I was concerned. We reached out. We have all had so many discussions about your concerns and trying to find ways to make things better. We have tried to compromise, and we have achieved some compromises. there have been efforts and i do look at some of the houses on shaker town and recognize that you guys are i would not be happy either your houses are closer than i'm sure you wish they were um i get it but once again we're and i don't want to say that you know 20 people or even 30 people or even 40 people but compared to almost 48 000 people to a city we have to look at the larger picture we have to think about the future and this potential development is an issue there are going to be things changing we are going to see more traffic you're you're right they don't and unfortunately we have to make we well i didn't yell over you and you spoke and i also don't need you to make comments about my appearance when you come up front either okay when he came up and said oh you're looking fine today honey yeah okay Well, now that we've gotten past that, anyway, truly, no one is trying to hurt any of you. I do understand your frustration. I don't expect you to love this project. I don't expect you to love the experience of these repairs. I don't think any of us have enjoyed living through the things that have happened in our neighborhoods either. I just had a tree come through my creek, and my yard got flooded, and my basement's flooded. but it's a moment things will get fixed i can wait you know for the the crews to come to take care of my tree um by the way thank you they came and took care of the tree um i'm happy to sit down with any of you but i do approve of this project i also read the mayor's letter And while you may not have liked what he had to say, or perhaps the way it was worded, our mayor's intentions are endlessly kind and endlessly responsible and thoughtful. He thinks about everybody all the time, and I can say that about everybody up here. These are wonderful people. Our employees are wonderful people. No one is trying to pull the wool over your eyes. No one is lying to you. I'm not saying that there may not have been a mistake like a, a road count that only counted one way and didn't count the other way. Or, you know, a stake that's a foot away from where it should be or something like that. We're all human. Everyone is human. You guys are also human. And all representations from perhaps there have been errors on both sides. I mean, or maybe we're talking past each other. But no one's trying to hurt you. Everyone is doing their best. And I understand that you don't like the project. I'm not going to try to convince you to love the project and I'm not going to convince you to stay home. You can come and complain about it every single meeting until the thing is over and then you can keep coming after that. I'm never going to tell you that your voice isn't important and that you shouldn't come and be heard. So thank you for coming out. I'm sorry that you're unhappy and I'm happy to talk to any of you. Thanks. Oh, and on a happier note, I would like to welcome Officer Hunsberger to the city. It was great to go to his swearing-in, and I'm looking forward to his time with our city. Thank you.

2:04:44Speaker 12

Thank you very much. Councilman Bales.

2:04:50 – 2:05:37Speaker 17

THANK YOU. I, TOO, APPRECIATE EVERYONE COMING OUT, SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS. I ALSO APPRECIATE LISTENING TO COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON THE ISSUE. AND I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO EXPOUND ANY MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD AND TALKED ABOUT ON IT BECAUSE WE'VE ALL SHARED A LOT TONIGHT AND I TOOK A LOT OF NOTES AND, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THAT. But on a happier note as well, I'd like to congratulate the Beaver Creek Beaver football team for their big win over Xenia. And I want to wish everybody a happy Labor Day and look forward to seeing everyone at the Popcorn Festival. I yield.

2:05:39Speaker 12

Councilor Kern.

2:05:41 – 2:06:29Speaker 22

Thank you, Your Honor. Again, I'd like to thank the individuals who have come up week after week or each meeting that we've had, given your opinion. But on the other side, I support the wisdom that's been presented by counsel tonight. It takes a lot of guts many times for people to think long range. And I think the evidence that's presented by the members of counsel tonight WAS VERY, VERY, VERY WELL PRESENTED AND I CERTAINLY SUPPORT MOVING AHEAD WITH THE PROJECT, REALIZING THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE TOTALLY HAPPY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

2:06:30Speaker 12

THANK YOU. VICE MAYOR UPTON.

2:06:33 – 2:08:39Speaker 15

THANK YOU, MAYOR ADAMS. CERTAINLY BEEN A LOT OF emotion and passion uh spoken about here tonight and i won't get into uh rehashing some of the council member bale's um you know a lot has been said and i think all of us took a lot of notes you know i heard tonight obviously a lot of discussion on shakertown road We talked a little about the religious facility that was presented tonight and ultimately tabled We heard from about e-bikes and something I learned again tonight was about the drainage issue down Dayton Xenia So I mean when you go all come forward and speak about these things that does help us form our opinion It helps us do our research. I'm so, you know with all sincerity. Thank you for coming out tonight in you know I do look forward to hearing more because it does bring different points up you know it was said new things were brought up tonight and some things were repeated so we will go to the drawing board and look at some of those new things we will potentially talk about some of those things have been repeated but again you know having the citizen input is part of the process right none of us would be here if we didn't care None of you out there would be here if you didn't care. None of us up here would be here if we didn't care. And that's just it. We all care for Beaver Creek and our community, much more than just a symbol of a beaver that we all celebrated our last meeting. So with that, I do look forward to more dialogue with everybody on any of the topics. I was gonna talk a little about the popcorn festival but I see it's in the city manager's report so I will defer to him on that one I do want to express a quick thank you to the school district with school coming back in session school buses have been running on time my kids were not excited to go back to school but it seems to be everything flowing smoothly with the schools and traffic throughout the city so I'm appreciative of that And I appreciate the police department, everything they're doing to help keep everybody safe out there. That's all.

2:08:40 – 2:11:00Speaker 12

Thank you very much. I, too, would like to thank everybody for coming. First of all, and the young man left, but the e-bikes and the e-motos, there's some work being done on ordinances throughout where several cities around the area are working on that because they are becoming very dangerous. I've run into that same situation myself, and we will do something about that, and I don't know what that will be at this point. something else that was brought up by councilman literal I spoke with the township and there are projected 1,600 homes being built there at the Trabine overpass and they will be connected probably through Valley Springs Road to yellow brick Road and where does that go right on shaker town so I assume we these when we look at things You know, I've been here 60 years. I look back. A lot of good things happened in the past, really good things. But a lot of things have changed in those 60 years. In the next 60 years, we're going to see a lot more. We're going to be built out in Beaver Creek one day down the road, but the township is still growing. There's a lot of things happening out here. So those are the things that we have to look at. We can't say, well, everything's fine right now because if we were to stop this project, turn all the money back five years from now when all this stuff builds out we have to do it again it'll cost five times as much nothing stays the same it's it's just the way it is and those are some of the things that we have to look at so with that i do want to say thank you to uh Councilman Bales for bringing up the high school football team. I was there Friday night and I was there Saturday and gladly accepted the trophy back from the mayor of Xenia so I could present it to the coach. That's the first time in five years that we've been able to do that. So that was a really fun time. And I know that Mayor Reynolds was not happy about it. In fact, he and I had a little bit of a bet going on that I will gladly accept when he gives me. So with that, I'll turn it over to the city manager.

2:11:02 – 2:13:28Speaker 2

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Quickly, the manager's report. Summer entertainment series will continue. Free event at Party on the Patio with DJ OK, August 29th. So that's next Saturday, 6 to 9 p.m. at the golf club. Next one after that, Party on the Golf Range with Jukebox Apocalypse is Wednesday, September 23rd, 5 to 8 p.m. Come and join these free concerts and have a good time. Town halls, we have two of them coming up. First will be September 15th at the Beaver Creek Senior Center. These are on finances. This is our third year doing these, so they've been informative. September 15th, 6 to 8 at the Senior Center, and the second town hall will be a month later, October 15th, 6 to 8 at the golf club. I mentioned earlier, our offices will be closed on Labor Day, of course, and for emergencies, contact 9-1-1, but for non-emergencies, something in the road or something of that nature, contact the non-emergency number of Beaver Creek Police Dispatch, 937-426-1225. And yes, Beaver Creek Popcorn Festival is coming. The city has a tent right beside the police tent as well. Saturday, September 12th, 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. and Sunday, September 13th, 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Usually staff and various council members staff it. This is something that does the entire popcorn festival. If you haven't ever been there, you're missing a real treat. There's a 5K run, arts and crafts, a whole bunch of things. So please have a look at that. Dayton Xenia Road, I do want to mention, will close at 4 a.m. September 12th, and will reopen at midnight on Monday, September 14th. So be prepared for that. The festival is not organized by the city. However, the city and police will have booths, so please stop by. SHOUT PARK FUNDRAISER. AGAIN, JUST WANT TO STATE THIS IS CONTINUING ONGOING SO FAR, 203 DONORS AND $19,067 IN FUNDS THAT HAVE RAISED UP TO AUGUST 24TH. SO PLEASE STOP BY. YOU CAN ASK ABOUT IT AT THE POPCORN FESTIVAL IF YOU'D LIKE OR ONLINE, BEAVER CREEK OHIO.GOV SHOUT PARK SLIDE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TONIGHT.

2:13:29Speaker 12

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. Move to adjourn, Your Honor.

2:13:36Speaker 12

I have a motion and a second to adjourn. All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

2:13:40Speaker 22

Aye. We are adjourned.

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