City Council - workshop

to extend the Zeta money. What are our plans? Because it kind of looks odd, Mike.

Well, what it is is that we've got projects out there, but it don't look odd. Everybody thinks it's odd. They don't know what's going on. That's what I want. I mean, all it is is extending the emergency so we can keep collecting our money. I talked to Jimmy and I, and I think that they need to claim hold on to this. I'm good with it.

But I want to be able to... I'll let her walk through the door and I'll put her on there.

Okay, we're going to go ahead and call the August 5th, 2026 City Council Workshop Order. Ask Councilwoman Moynan if she would lead us in prayer.

Amen. Gracious God, be with us during this process of being the stewards of the city's money and caretakers of this wonderful experience we're all having. God bless us. Amen. Amen.

Also, we'll go ahead and just start with a roll call. Board 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and at large are present. And we'll keep it pretty consistent with the way we've been handling it. We'll go ahead and get the mayor to run us through. I know we have a thick packet tonight. Did you want to start with the payroll budget, or did you want to jump into the...

I do because that links the entire thing. That links the entire budget. You know, that's figured into the budget as it is. So if we don't approve that, then we go back to ground zero and start over on something. So again, you know, I know it was late and I do have copies if anybody's looking for anything.

I'm glad to see you found larger print. I'm glad to see you found larger print.

There's some other positions in there as well, whether they're on heavy equipment or whatever, mechanic and all. Some of those are also position-wise. We are asking for an increase a little above what else is out there. So do we have any questions on payroll?

So those positions have not been filled, is what you're saying?

What's that?

These positions haven't been filled?

Those positions are filled.

Oh, okay, I see.

That's just some of the things they have gotten. If you look at one of them, you know, certified in the planes, you know, SRF and things like that. Big help when... in that department there was two people working in that department that person down there by herself doing the things that two people were doing more than stepped up and everything on that yeah for over a year i think right for over a year she's been doing it by herself i want to say the one down

I'm just saying she's well-deserved because she's been doing it.

Yeah, and she's done great. She's going out. We send her to classes. She's willing to go. She gets a certification, and there's others out there. It's just what I had here, some of these and all.

What is the job description?

That's a change. It's not a new position or anything, but that person will take on more responsibilities, and that's an upstairs position.

And that's this person?

No, that person's downstairs. The other person's upstairs.

Okay.

It's just added duties and change of job description.

So this position already has an employee in it?

Yeah, yeah.

That's number six deputy clerk, correct? No.

Probably so. Yeah, you're right. Number six? Yep. And then number four in buildings. And then again, you know, when you go through everything else pretty much across the board, you know, that we're asking for, and then when you get into public works as a position or two, they've got a little bit here.

And then this.

and again you know we have someone that's doing very well as a mechanic and would like to keep him along along with our other mechanic and just increasing those pays as well as an operator down there also this is nothing changed on this that that we sent out

So I'm sorry, can you go back and explain this on the building, the building labor? The 6%, what is that?

Number four?

Yeah. No, number two. Number two.

Building and grounds.

Building and grounds.

I'm sorry.

On the what? On the building and grounds. On the building and grounds. That's the guy that takes care of our buildings, comes in around the clock, weekends, everything else when we need to to clean the buildings. We've had a whole lot less problems since he, but he gives up his nights, weekends, and everything else to come in.

Does that include the bathrooms and all?

No, he takes care of our community hall and the garage hall. But he does come in and do that, too, as well, you know, in the rotation with that. But this guy, he's done a good job. And, again, it's just giving him a little extra for what he's done and continues to do.

Okay.

But he is. He's willing to come in. You know, when they got back-to-back events, he's there that night working all night. You know, and he'll swap his schedule around. He won't in a way. He doesn't get the overtime and all of a sudden. That was my next question.

Good.

And the 10% on insurance increase? That's what we figured.

We're off to a rough start first part of the year. It's starting to slow down some. Hopefully, it'll line out by the first of the coming year when we take place. But as of right now, he thought a good suggestion was a 10% increase in that.

really the only other one for mechanic and then how do you feel about judge salary being an even seven

and judicial uh-huh so how you feel about making that an even seven i don't this is so much lower than our salary he's on call is that judge judge he's on a salary that's broke down

You know, look, if we want, you know, we're not talking about a whole lot of money.

I know, I'm just saying in comparison to.

I mean, if we, I don't have a, I really, I don't have a problem with it.

We might be able to hold on to them.

If it gets elected, it'll be gone.

That's right. I know, that's what I said.

Maybe we can hold on to them.

Does anybody have a problem with that, just rounding it up?

Look I'll be quite honest, you know he

We raised prosecutors, we raised the defenders, the defense attorney. We haven't raised the judges in a few years, so if we want to change that number overall to a $3,000 increase, I think that's well within reason, more than in reason, you know, it's okay.

We won't bring them up to 18 that's where the prosecutors and all are

But if we want you know we want go up and raise it to 18,000 I think we do with that I

Everybody okay? Yes. We're going to change that to $18,000 for the judge.

For what?

For the judge.

Total $18,000. Are we adding $15,000 to that $29,000?

No.

Because the line at the end says total 29, 215, so are we adding 15 to that?

Well, you have to refigure the PERS and insurance.

That line will change. It'll be 865 now.

Okay. I mean, it costs us more, but we'll have to figure that out.

Getting it figured out. He's an accountant. He can do that stuff.

That's why I call on Jordan for numbers.

That's what I told him. That's what I told him. Watch out. Y'all are going to go back, and it's going to be wrong, but.

I just don't understand why we just don't have a salary to get the hourly rate because you don't get overtime. Right. It would be a whole lot easier. Okay.

Everything else is pretty much the same with the 3% cost of living increase that we give.

I think sometime during this term we need to look at council and mayor's pay for the next administration of the term because it's I've been raised that I know of since, I know since I've been here. That needs to be done.

Next year? Yeah. Even if we approve it next year, it doesn't go to the next council.

Yeah, next election, so just something to think about. But it has to be done. This term for next term, so just.

Anything else? It looks good.

we were we were talking about um raising the short-term rental fee to up should we account for an employee in in this budget i think the employee we have has can do it okay okay so all right because we you know we're looking at also

Okay, I just didn't want to miss an opportunity and I do think if we want to look at raising the fee this, it'd be time coming up to the for sure.

So the mayor's increase in the council increase What time of year would that need to come across? Because I know it has to go to Jackson and then come back down.

It won't take effect at 31 or 2130, whenever it is.

I know, but it seems like it's not a quick process, by the way.

No, I mean, that's something that can be done the last year of the term.

Right. Okay. I thought it had to, like, go before Congress or, I mean, the legislature.

It's just got to be. No. We're going to, I think, us on a wavelength rate of that. They can raise that in the first year. Yeah. I would just set up different.

How do charters and stuff like that?

Okay.

All right.

Judge, the only thing we're messing with. Yep. One through.

What about, you may have said it and I may have missed it, Public Works 13, that it was just making sure it wasn't a typo and that you meant to, that there was. Hold on. Operator drainage? What about it? I just, I saw it was different than the others. I didn't know.

No, that's one that has come in and does very well in the drainage and all on, you know, as an operator, doing very well.

And they have to go through certification to get that, like a whole other level of?

No, not really certified.

or some sort of training.

Well that yeah, he's been he's been since he didn't he couldn't operate when he got here. Yeah. And he he's done very well work through and continues to. And again, he's one of the ones that you can call him in the middle of night and he's there. So going through general revenue one through nineteen i think it is there's really nothing changed in here from what we looked at originally we do have a couple items in here um one i think everybody has seen The engagement letter from my attorney and everything. Also asking to increase her fee as well, hourly, which stays the same, and to increase this, the retainer fee. I really don't know the last time it was increased. You know, so. Administrative.

Under administrative.

Didn't we do that already? Didn't we vote on that already?

No, that was the last one that came up in October was just.

That was hourly for anything, you know, lawsuits, things like that. It just renewed. This is just having her here, you know, when you pick up the phone, call and talk to her, you know, she's there.

I think that one was also just extending her to now. It was just extending it to now because it was going to lapse if I remember correctly. This one will actually be retainer request.

So everybody's good with increasing that?

Yes, everybody's good with that. And I do mean everybody. What do you say?

So we'll add that into the budget as well. Anything else in the first 19 pages? Yes. Library.

Library, okay.

In-out. You know, it came last night. I think our budget, I've got to find it, but I think it's $162,888. What page are we on?

We've got to find it.

Oh, gosh, Larry. Why'd you do that?

What if we left the mill the same and didn't adjust it with the increase this year? What would that put them at? Increase, do you know? That would probably put it close to what they're asking for if we want to do that. So if we just left the mill value?

We would still increase the dollar amount, whatever that dollar amount is. That's what we would make it. And then also, that way, at one time, It used to be that way, I think. It used to be, and so nobody thought when they were getting two, two-and-a-half mils that a mil would go from $20, $30 to $100, $200. And that's when we got up into the, I think it was $360 or something like that. We had given them at one time.

Yeah, I think when I got on council it was around $360, $380.

And so then we cut it back to a flat amount. So whatever we can increase or give what the mil increase is, but have it as a fee, a dollar amount set. So next year, if it goes up or goes down, you know, they would still stay at that fee.

Yeah, that would be good.

I mean, for this year, I would say just align it the same. Same increase as what the mill did. Yeah, whatever the increase the mill is, keep the millage the same going to them, but let the dollar amount increase. I don't know if it'd be $10,000 or $8,000 or what they get. Oh, yeah. Because I don't think they're getting the whole mill. What, they're getting one point something mill? No. $60,000. They're getting .7.

I think I figured close to .77. .77, okay.

So the money from the city directly goes to the Bay St. Louis Library? Yes.

Yeah. Well, this is what we budget. $162,880. So that's based on the .77.

of a mill right so what if we and that's eleven thousand dollar increase based on what our military what if we just give them the get set an amount is that what you're saying to set an amount and then what what happens to the rest of that just stay with us stay in the general fund stay in the general fund

we'll adjust this rate to whatever dollar amount we want if we want to just flat out add 10 000 to it around it to 10 120 to make it an even 173 we'll just figure the the amount of millage it takes to create that so y'all good with a flat rate of uh I forgot what he asked for last time. $175,300. $175,300 is what he asked for. If you do what we had budgeted, I mean the increase of the mill, you're looking at...

He asked for $175,300. Right, which was an 8% increase from $163,000, blah, blah, blah.

Yeah, $174, $289. One round of $175. Is that what he asked for?

$175, three. Yeah.

So give them the whole, give them the entire increase for this?

I mean, I don't know. That's what we can discuss. Yeah, you need, yeah. That's what it would be.

I think so. I mean, all that stays in Bay St. Louis at this library for the...

And that's the one thing we've sliced since I've been on the council a bunch, like I say. We've sliced it from 380 or so down to this 160. We've cut them a lot.

You know, one of the things, if they can work on this...

and get Diamondhead to put in, and that covers everything they need more. If they put in the same share as Waveland and Bay St. Louis, this would put them way above anything they would need. If they just came up and doubled what they gave, it would cover all the costs that they asked for. One of the things I was wanting is for them to talk and find out how quick are they trying to act on that to amend what they have with them. And then, again, them stepping up Like I said, even if they double what they pay, we cover what he's asking. 8% to us is not the same as 8% to Diamond Head. I mean, Diamond Head, all 8% is not the same to Waver. So, yeah. If everybody wants to put up $10,000 extra, then call everybody $10,000. Yeah. When you do it on percentages. Again, this is what got the school, both our school districts and the county two years ago when they changed that formula. And we lost almost $22 million. Oh, yeah, I remember that. We lost almost $2.6 million because they based it on millage rate and not the value of the mill to go along with that millage rate.

Yeah, I mean, I'm good with the $10,000 or whatever you want to do with me, you know.

Yeah, I'm good with that amount. I just don't want to set if it does go up, you know, in the next year.

You know, this can be a one-time. Next year, we'll go back if Diamondhead joins in.

We're not promising them the .77 every time. No.

It's just, yeah. This one time, we'll allow them to take the increase in the mill value. It's just one year, you know, past the loan.

Yeah. All right. We'll make that change. So... Again, that's the two changes we'll make. And is there anything else? I think, Nancy, you had?

Mayor, what were the plans, I guess, for that other 11,000 that we'd be bringing back? We go to the general fund, right?

State and general fund have got projects, whatever you do. Note on PC equipment, whatever.

We're going to make the golf cart permit fees this year, you think?

I think we're going to be pretty close. Somebody just came and picked, and they just had to order more. Okay.

October is, one is October, right?

Yeah, and they'll start selling prior to.

And now they're automated, right? Like you can do it online. We were supposed to have it where you could pay it online, which made it a lot more accessible to people who don't actually live here but still visit here. I don't know if that feature is active, but it was supposed to be. Are they inspecting the golf carts? No.

No, we do not.

We do not. We had them sign an affidavit. And we check it based on their insurance and try to verify what it is, what they give us.

I know someone told me Waveland actually inspects. So the thing with that, you know, it was talked about when we first started this, and who do we have to inspect it? we don't have a liability thing as well yeah and so you know you can see the check for when we do have one a million in 007 we have a million looks like it's going to be 25 000 to start the year with that's yeah million 12 we collected 12 12 000 this year interest and what that is that's the one we set up to where that's for emergency extreme emergencies to where we try not to touch we have not touched it since we put it in there let's put it like that library fund we said we want to increase that 172 whatever it was 75 we'll make that change there flat flat number one time this year and then go back to the drawing board maybe i give them time to get diamond head on board that's just the in and out comes in goes out

Mayor, real quick, jumping back to page 7 under the administrative, I know you mentioned it because I got the new proposed retainer as well. The new retainer, that amount isn't right in here.

No, that needs to change. Okay.

I didn't know if it needed to be in. No, that will be. That'll be in the next one. You just mentioned it. Where did I find it at?

Yeah, it's page seven.

Page seven. It just wasn't changed in here. Yeah.

All right. Thank you. I just got through with the library.

It's back here. It's going to be

tree is nothing about 35 100 104 quarter mil for the fire and this is something we really ought to look at it and take dedicated mill just dedicated mills to the fire department no matter what this money automatically goes there and there's a lot of things we can do with it but it makes sure they get it this and the next one as well the rebate from the fire So something we ought to look at really going down the line is we have incentive pay for our first responders in the police and fire. If there was something we'd create a dedicated miller that would go into a fund strictly for that, we would always make sure that we have that there and all. Just something to think about into the future and all coming up. So the quarter mill, the increase of that is from 48.72 to 53.410. And you can see there's a list of items down through there that they spend the money on. Anywhere from uniform purchase, fighting supplies, training. Training's the biggest one we use down there.

And Mayor, I know the training classes, you know, they used all of that pot. But the other stuff, it looks like they got, I mean, you had 11,000 left under supplies and then 13. Will they use that before the end of? End of this year, or?

Supplies, let's see, firefighting supplies, 7,500, yeah.

I mean, as far as the total, underneath that total supplies, they got 11,000 to use, and then the contractual services they have.

They've used some of that lately, and there's probably some things that need to move over there, the vehicle parts and supplies, that just didn't get coded to the right thing. training you know they a little above on training so we increase that we we more than double that but we also have i think it's three is going to the fire academy this year so that comes out of that as well now will this include dress uniforms dress uniforms are on order now i think we approved that last meeting before Last meeting.

Last meeting. Last night? No, no, the one before that, I think.

Yeah. So they did. That's on order. Not on order. The lady's coming. I think Monty told me this week to do the measurements and everything. Okay.

They don't have anything promotional items.

On the right there where we were just looking up. Promotional is that $2,000. Next is the fire insurance rebate. We'll see a slight increase this year. Budget is $65,000. That's an in and out that goes out to get service to help pay for the fire truck. Anything on any either of those two?

I do like that we doubled the training. That's good.

Yeah. And and we got a doing great too. They really got a bunch of warning the training. And again, you know, it's one of the things we can always win. If we win in need of training, they got somebody will find a dollar to send them to.

That's what I think that's big. We got a good fire department. We do.

Yes. Got a good chief. What do you think? I do believe we've come a long way. Next is federal grants. This was a little wacko trying to figure this one out. I don't understand why we just don't have capital projects no matter where it falls. That's what we used to do and it got dinged a few years ago where separated out federal grants, state grants, this and that and everything else. So you'll see different things. This is federal grants here. We do have the Ward 6 road elevation in this grant. So the roads and all, or the raising of the road downtown. Elevation $674,000 something. That's the total cost of it. You'll see that on the back. I think it's the last page. $675,516. That's what it's going to cost for road elevation. And you see we also have money coming in With that $600 to cover the cost, there's a beginning cash balance, which is just being carried over. Nothing's spoken for on that, but there's $75,000 coming in for road and bridge, which will cover our $67,000 something match on that project. $67,551.70. So that's how we'll pay for this elevation out there.

What about the road repairs? Is that going to be completed before the end of?

Yes. There's going to be nothing to carry over there? Should be.

That's going to be done?

Yeah. If there's something left out there, we'll just have to amend it whether it's money reimbursed or...

I think you can take a ride out on those smooth roads up there.

Yeah, I know.

Looking good. Looking good.

I'm sure they're going to be happy. On 121, Harper. We'll work on cleaning that up. That's a dead bird. 125, CapEx. So, again, we're fortunate enough this year to receive two grants in CapEx from the state I don't remember which one's which, but one's $250,000, one's $200,000, a total of $450,000. One's to start the process of looking and hardening, replacement of windows and everything in the city hall and this. Now, we're also working on some other funding for that now. The other, Josh, you might remember which one was which. Do you remember? $250,000 was for water, I think. So $250,000, yeah, was for water. So we want to try to work with that one. and work with the Hancock County Water Sewer Board and try to expand, expand water, help them expand water lines out in wards five and six that doesn't have water. And by doing that, we'll have to work, go and get into a local, which is no, you know, it can be done. I wish he just gave it straight to them. And it would save us, you know, doing it. But I think it's just, again, it's our citizens that doesn't have the water. And if we can, you know, improve that, on our side of it, we have some areas as well. Ronnie's looking in, like one off Washington Street out there a few houses. Ronnie's looking into that for the cost of doing that. But we will do that probably in house as well.

So How many houses will it serve?

What's that?

How many houses do you think that'll...

It depends. Yeah, not a whole lot, unfortunately, but it'll get some mains running looped around, I think. It depends.

think it's gonna be try to do small-scale projects at a time so it's not engineering and stuff involved in doing them you know and one and one of the things I wish we could do but we just can't is you know we have the grant coming the four million dollar grant from go Mesa for sewer now we can't use it on water it would been ideal for And that's just the way it's set up. It's not allowed to be used. If we could have taken a portion of that. And the same thing with the offer fund. It's two good opportunities, but it just doesn't go for what they need. And there is some other grants coming up available. So we're working on that as well and trying to see if they can work on it from there and also. 180, modernization tax. That's a tax, you know, this year we budgeted 700. As you can see, we hit the 875 mark there. We budgeted 780. Hopefully it stays up. Everything all goes in here. We're beginning balance of $150,000, and we'll have a better estimate on that for the next meeting, but by that time we'll already have the budget adopted or advertised and everything. But that's not, you know, again, this money's there. And if it's not budgeted, it can't be spent unless it's approved by, like everything else, y'all. So we got 780 coming in, carry over 150, gets a total of an estimate of 930,000 to start the year. So with this, we send $225,000 to our 2020 bond, $96,514 to our 16 bond, $250,000 out to 305. You'll see it coming in shortly. And then from there, that's what we're budgeting this year, $571,000. And if everything holds, that's not counting above and beyond of what we're doing for cash balance beginning, we'll have $258,000 left over that. It's available throughout the year, whether it's on a project, whether we need a match, a road match or something, or if we need extra money for road paving. Again, it is budgeted, $500,000 for that. and our capital projects that we see coming up. So the money's there available for anything to do with infrastructure and all. They are trying to loosen that up to where we can start using that for other things, but it's not going to turn it completely loose. So they're looking at possibility of doing that with that. 200 debt service. This is another one trying to figure out. So again, we're budgeting $475,000 of general fund money for this. If you go and look.

Mayor, real quick, that main drain clean out, you think that'll be completed before the end of this year too? Yeah.

What about the drainage on Siena?

That looks really good too. I'm not sure where we at. We approved authorization for somebody to come in and do it, but I don't know. We need to ask Ronnie about that.

Don't know what the answer is.

Ronnie. So our debt service. Can we come back to this one?

I need to look it up on my phone.

I just need to look it up on my phone. One number didn't take.

200 debt service. So in this, though, I'm looking.

You want to go to the 220? Go bond fund and come back.

Okay, so no, no, I'm good. It did take, I just didn't go enough pages. So in the five pages, yeah, okay. So we got $475,574 coming in. So you can see the list of things we are paying for. And I have a copy of it to show where some of it's going off in this year's budget. I think I sent it out, but if anybody wants any hard copies. It's in there. So when you look at this, you look at, $475,000 coming in. If you look on page five, we have $518,000 in debt. So the difference of what's coming in and the amount needed for debt is coming from the utility department. That's stuff that is in there. Again, at one time we used to transfer in and have $1,000 you know, set of debt service. But it's still one set, but it's paid directly from the utility department to the bank, instead of sending from the utility department to here and using one check to pay for. So the transfer is no longer done. It's just their part of it is paid directly to the bank. So if you add both the numbers up to 43,000, you'll see that in debt in debt in the utility general fund 400, you'll see where they paying that portion of it out of there. And again, if you look there, there is some things coming off. I think the 75 G and 60 G is coming off. This is what I should have blown up right here. uh the durangos they're they're off right now they're paid off the three durangos three 2021 durangos those are paid off as of now if you look up above that the robes are going off in the middle of the month this right now above that that's coming off the four died ram 23 died ram that's coming off or that came off Oh, it'll be on the next budget to come off both of them. So the top items will all be off, let's see, all the way down to the new Highland tractor. So the new Highland tractor comes off. I might be able to read that sometime next year. The 320, 20-odd rams come off. That starts 28 coming off.

Hey, man, real quick, I jumped back to the $400,000 utility fund debt services. Yeah. $108,000 is in the requested budget for the dump truck, and it has utilities.

Well, if you look at it, some things are not listed in debt yet. That's for if we purchase something, you'll see the money there for that. I think it's $27,000, $27,000, $20,000, $27,000, something.

Yeah, I see the two that actually have. Yeah. It's not just utility equipment. Yeah, I see it's 27 and 21. Okay, I see what you mean, though.

Yeah. But that, again, if we don't purchase anything that requires debt service, then that money is not spent. anything else on debt service and again you know it's like this year even if we do end up getting the police cause we may not see payment till next year and I think if you look if you look at the bottom of that debt service page That bottom item down there, which is our trucks, first payment on that is not to December of 29.

What's wrong?

Linda just made a comment. I said we might not even be.

You just got to continue doing all the great work we're doing.

No, it's not. The first paper's not until 12-29 of 26. No, no. Sorry about that. 12-29-26.

Shoot, if he wore out by then, they'd come get him.

So, next up, any questions on that, anything? Next up, 245. This is a negotiable note that we've... it comes in from the 452 transfers in to 369 and then we just pay it out got the beginning balance everything got 380 in that account pay off payout this year will be 372 thousand dollars All right, 253. Zeta Loan Debt Service. We're hoping we can hold out on the 120 from this year. We have not gotten that yet. We approved it, but that was a loan for the road. We've sent it in and hoping to be reimbursed. Waiting on them to respond. we're more than halfway there right now and they're going to be through hopefully in the next month less than a month probably no good we're hoping we don't have to get that different different difference though with the one coming up in the harbor that is available if we need it you know we approve that we just need to go after it before we even start that project so we have it coming in whether we use it or not if we need it. And again, we only pay interest on the part that's used. So if we get it and we spend a million or three million, we pay interest on a million. And again, FEMA says they'll pay it back. There's no guarantee, but they do pay back interest on it. You have to finance like that. We do not. If we don't use it, we can get it and have that line of credit there, but we don't pay if we don't use it. Yeah. They say they do, but that's it. And MEMA says they do, but they won't put that in writing. But all of their workers tell you when we're in a conference call that they do reimburse us for that. Oh, another debt service. This is Rowan Bridge. This is 2016.

I hope nobody's counting how many pieces of candy.

So this is a 2016 debt bond. about a .72 of a mil to pay for this. As you can see, it's $156,048 coming out of the taxes. We drop down, we get 104 for modernization, brings us up to 260,000. The note on this is 253,900. So more than covers that. If anything's left, it just sits there for beginning balance next year. DOJ, we just purchased something through DOJ for the police department. I'm not sure where that figure's going to end up, but we'll probably have at least $115,000 to carry over. There is some funding coming. We just don't know when. You never know. But there is funding out there that we hope to recoup one day, which is very useful. But again, we have zero in the budget to spend. know for those that don't know doj money is there can't be for anything in the budget can't take the place of your budgeted item you know can't say well we're gonna buy two vehicles and then hey let's use that money to pay for these vehicles this is something above and beyond what you have budgeted That's why we don't budget anything for it, and it's sitting there. And, you know, they like to use it. They'd like for you to use it in the same year, but we've been very good with saving it and procuring it, and for important things that they really need, they've been able to go get them.

We used some of it last night, huh?

Yep. 305, here's our capital project right here. So in the budget, we have... Pine Ranch, and it's gonna be Subie, not Felicity Street. So with that, we got $482,000 coming in from the grant. With that, there is a match of $120,000 We'll show that where that comes from in a minute. We also have phase four of the boardwalk. It's a $500,000 grant from MOST. This is at Almond Pier, down at the bottom by the fire pit and everything to go around the fire pit, actually out into the water for ADA accessibility. Also up on top. create the ADA accessibility from sidewalk to sidewalk and across in that area. So that's what that portion is. You go right underneath it, it's phase three of the boardwalk. Million dollar grant we have. There won't be any, there's no match with the 500. There won't be a match with this. We'll use the in-kind donation of all the peers as the match for this. But this will take us right now, you know, we projected the first phase two boardwalk to go to DeMottleson. So that came in way under budget. So we're able to probably go from DeMottleson. We're hoping to make it to Carroll Avenue. Then this Grand Hill, pick up from Carroll Avenue to Oldman, tie all that in, and be from Oldman all the way down to the car ramp going down into the harbor. If we have any other funds left over from this, we're looking at trying to add some things up top. but also would like to get a permit to start the ramp at the bottom when you're down there, all the way back into the harbor down low. So you'd be able to make a complete circle from steps all the way down, down, low, all the way back to the harbor. Looking at putting a parking lot down there as well. Again, we're applying for that. Whether we get the funding or not, we'll see what goes on with that.

Good. We need that.

So again, that's the money coming in. We've got $120,000 coming from Municipal Reserve also with this. $250,000 coming from modernization. $250,000 coming for road and bridge. As you see, the $250,000 and the $250,000, that's where we get our $500,000 for continued paving throughout the year. That's the project right now that we're looking to add on to this. Any question when you get over you'll see the same over there. We got 2.602 coming in and that's what we got going out if all the projects takes place and we get everything completed. So again, it's an in and out. And again, the major projects are sidewalks, three sidewalks, Pine Ranch, Suvi, $500,000 for paving, boardwalk, and ADA accessibility out into the water from the Altman Pier. Anything on that?

Mm-mm.

go by 320 zero and zero throughout through. And we're gonna try to clean some itself once we get caught up. We really need all this. There's a lot of trees we kill. 345 is the next one. That's a negotiable note in the harbor there is where we've been paying our dredging from and everything. So we're through with that. Get reimbursed. We want to close this out as well. So we're not showing anything in, anything out of that. 345. Sorry about that. That goes with the one we just did. 350. Yeah. Road and bridge. So first thing up top is our taxes. That's the half mill that the state required the county to give us back. So there we're very fortunate to have supervisors, supervisors and the board and administration on the county to give us 100% of our funds back. So that shows throughout here and everywhere in the budget. So, you know, with the slight increase this year on that, there's also 550,000 coming in for the turning lanes on 603. 603 project is a 550,000 is also coming in from the municipal reserve. So there's two things coming in from municipal reserve we just went over. this one and the one, whatever it was, 345, I think it was. And again, it's an in and out. Turning lane, $687,500. Also in this, we transferred out $150,000 to the general fund. Transferred $75,000 out to the federal fund, which is grant capital projects there. So we got $1,368,848 coming in, expecting to spend $1,162,500, $206,000 plus left. Any questions on that $100? No. 40, 400. Amen.

Real quick. more so from my knowledge than anything so like i see the transfer in from a municipal from the municipal reserve and then i see a transfer out to the general fund what is the

municipal reserves sending money in and then i know it's going out to the general capital sending money in to public works funding in there if you go to what they public works on in the beginning streets is what is that page 15 if you go down through there you see materials and all that's what some of that's funding whether it's uh you know stuff for the for the road we have road repairs in here you know the the rip rap things like that that's what this helps fund also it helps you know the cost of uh the grass cutting and all that as well

It was just better to move the $50,000 to this account and then move $150,000 out instead of $50,000.

I don't know. I think things could be a lot easier.

It just looks like a lot of transfers. It is. Just don't transfer as much over to that. Yeah. Or send it from municipal reserve to wherever that.

But what it also does, it helps the county. Paper trail. Yeah. see where we're spending our road bridge money because one of the things they do look at you know we don't think they do but they want to know where that road bridge money because they get complaints just like like we do you know hey my roads tore up this is not done this you know i'm a ditcher so they want to see where their money's going and just it's a paper trail right here that we can send them the information to show where you know the money that they gave us by law and the money they also very kind and giving us as well right Anything else on any of that? All right, 400. So one of the things we did in revenue side, we increased revenue on wastewater. Roughly $52,000, I think it is, to help cover the cost of wastewater and all. That'll also show on our rates when we approve our rates and everything. What that came out to be was a dollar increase on the flat fee. I think last year we chose not to increase flat fees and we just did volume. This year, you know, we do see a need where we need to increase the flat fee as well. So that's where that came from. Again, pretty simple. We are transferring $300,000 out to that capital maintenance account. have $400,000 to other funding and leases as well included on this. Again, one of the things, page two, that's just the administration part, not a whole lot there. Nothing's changed on that since it was given out. Page 3, about the only thing we increased here, we did increase down, if you look down on 400, 700, 600 waste water. We went from 1.4 million, which we thought was going to be enough to cover it, went to $1,450,000 on our waste water. That's a big difference that you'll see on that. We also went in and changed... Yeah. We also went in and changed some of the debt service, as you see, from what we had a little while back. Whenever we gave the first one out, cleaned it up some, got rid of some of the stuff that was on here, and pretty simple right now, $108,912. Jordan, this is what you were asking for earlier. It's $27,000, $20,000. That's $47,000. that that's there for funding if we need it for lease purchase and utility fund. In and out. Goes out to 402, go to general fund.

So with this, we'll also have... Should those items be added to that other account, even though it hasn't been bought yet, if we think we're going to buy it?

no no it just needs to be here it won't it won't get transferred out until until it's approved that's actual that's what what's the the ones that's got an item by it in the actual leases we have right now so if we purchase something if we don't the money just stays there and it's not spent if we do decide or are able to get a piece of equipment for them you know we'll we'll split it off it goes straight to them they'll pay for it out of there. Media deposits is for anything on 401 is a wars nothing yet tree. A capital maintenance fund 402. We're showing $300,000 coming in from utility operating. That's a transfer over. We'll have a beginning balance there. That'll be what it is. We're not budgeting anything out of it. It'll be there for emergencies or whatever. But in this, you'll see some increases in what we did do in this. We got $180,000 of budgeted items in there. So if you look at it, we've got road repairs. We went from $25,000 to $35,000 when they cut the road, you know, and repairs and all. I think we finally got somebody there that sidewalks and all that that's capable of doing it. You'll see our gas repairs. We went down in that from $35,000 to $25,000. Lift stations, we went from $33,000 to $60,000, along with water, $33,000 to $60,000. So we have funds available for that for any major projects coming up on that. Besides that, what we budgeted in was $310,000, counting the interest and all. We budgeted $180,000, $130,000 left in that, plus the beginning balance, whatever that's going to be. 408, modernization. We have nothing coming in there. It's there if we need it. It would have to be transferred out of 180 into this fund. You know, one time we were splitting it. Josh, weren't we splitting it at one time 50-50? And now we put it over here if we need to move some over. And again, this is something I think we can use with Hancock County Water Sewer to maybe work on water and all other areas throughout the city that maybe we don't have control over, but to help them get water to them. All proprietors, again, that's going to be a wash. We should be through with that. We've got to be through by sometime this month, so it's going to be closed out. Maybe some revenue coming in, expenses will be paid. Maybe some revenue coming in. We'll make that adjustment when we see where we're at. 450 harbour and no changes since it was given out. Again, we did go up on our fees, on our utilities there, went up on our slip fees. We're still in good shape as far as that goes with neighboring harbors. We're not the lowest, we're not the highest, but again, we're in good shape there. So after that, Harbor Grant, we don't have anything coming in that we know of right now. Capital Maintenance, we don't plan. We'll see what we have left, and if we can put something in there, we'll add it to it. But we don't have any plans on using any of that as well. We'll have a beginning balance, and that's it.

mayor real quick what happened in the i guess 2024 2025 well i could probably look it's probably fuel home for what when i was looking at the total charges for services it was that on there it was fuel never mind i'll answer my own question i'm sorry okay

All the construction, 1.8, we ought to get rid of that when we get through with the dredging. Earned income from community, unearned income from community hall, nothing there. State easement. Bail buying, nothing, food, cash, nothing there.

When is the as of for the year-to-date information? What is this as of? Projected year-end? Like, for example, the year-to-date actual for slip rental revenues at 456.

It's fairly up-to-date.

Is it?

Yeah, they're running that and everything. So we just need to send it out. Well, that's it as of right now.

Some things are way behind. Yeah, that's what I was. Something. 24, 25. And 2024 and 2025, we got 511. On what? For slip rentals. And then our current budget's 509. Requested's 535, but our year-to-date's 456. And I know those slips are full. There's a wait list for them. But I didn't know the year to date.

When it was, yeah.

Yeah. Okay, hold on. On here, that's as of September 30th.

No, it's not.

No.

So right now we've taken in $456,000. $45,000 a month average. $91,000. You add $91,000 to the. 456 that puts us up at 540 something yeah okay that's i just wasn't sure yeah where to calculate that monthly run rate fuel sales you know fuel sales is an in and out yeah we projected x amount we're going to sell nobody projected it's going to be four dollars a gallon so you'll see the the probably will be above and beyond. That doesn't mean we sold as many gallons this year as we did last year, vice versa, or whatever. I'll get them to run one of these as of July 1st.

By the next meeting, we'll have a period.

Also, next meeting, we'll have cash balances, a very good cash balance report that it's there. And it's gonna be up to date and accurate. Not that you know, we've been very close. But this is just gonna be more, I guess, projections and everything else with that. It's gonna take away some of the ins and the outs to where it doesn't confuse things in there to show what the cash is now in them. And then we'll come out with a separate report to where if whatever, 0-1-0, is owed a million dollars, then it's going to show in something separate, not clog everything and clutter it up.

So with this,

That's the entire 130-something pages of the budget. So all I have is the judge, the attorney fees, the library.

The RPO.

Well, we won't make that until we, yeah. We're not going to include that soon. to be discussed, voted on. All right. So any thoughts?

Got a headache.

Yeah, really.

I'm tired.

You what?

I'm tired, Mike. I'm tired of seeing y'all. You know what time I was up there?

It's 1 o'clock.

When I left here, I programmed to it for a flip because when we printed it out, I didn't bring it with me. It took everything. And so the numbers were correct, like in the revenue and the expenses of the revenue instead of taking it to where when it comes in, it's revenue. We kept it as a debit. And it combined, so instead of saying a watch, if I put $5 in as revenue, take $5 out, it showed me negative $10. So that took, whoa, calling up there and everywhere else to figure out, you know, what do we do? And Tim stayed on the phone with them when I went to the meeting over here this morning. They hired D.D. and all them guys to straighten out everything. We didn't have to go back to the program or anything. Thank God. But it's been a learning curve for everybody, you know, figuring that system out. It used to be nice to just go hand in this paper right here and have somebody to punch it in.

You punching it in?

Punch it in, brother. Golly. Don't call him wise.

Every one of them damn little numbers. Every.

we'll get back to that

Anybody got any questions or anything else? If not, I'll call for a motion to adjourn the workshop. Motion? Motion by Councilman Smith. A second by Councilwoman Davis. Any discussion? Vote for motion.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Motion carries 5-0.