City Commission - Regular Meeting

Chris. Hello. Hey, Chris. This is Chad. Can you hear me? Okay. We got you on the overhead speaker right now. Hey. Yes. Yeah, Chad. Good evening. Uh, yes, I'm here. That sounds fine. Thanks. Perfect. Thank you.

like to call the workshop to order, please. And we would like to um have introductions. So, Commissioner Smith, will you start? And we'll cross this way. Um Paige Katarski Smith. Uh Jessica Lacass, Mark Binky, Sher Sophia, Amanda Zimmerland, city manager, Erin revenue services director, Marcy Gillette, assistant city manager. Vicky Hower, city clerk. Thank you very much. And here comes Commissioner Patrick O'Donnell. Mayor, and Commissioner Chris Simmons is joining remotely. the staff.

The Commissioner Simmons is joining. I'm sorry, Chris. Yes, thank you. I heard that there's a delay tonight. All right. Next item on our agenda is the roll call. Madam clerk, when you're ready. Commissioner Katarski Smith here. Commissioner Lacass here. Commissioner Morris. Um, Commissioner Lance. Um, Mayor Banky here. Commissioner O'Donnell here. Commissioner Reynolds, Commissioner Simmons here, Vice Mayor Sophia here. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Next item on our agenda is public comment and this will be limited to three minutes per individual. Is there any public comment at this time? We'll go to Chuck Archer Asher and then uh back in the corner. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, Commissioners. Chuck Asher, 961 Glen Trough Lane. I'm probably not going to surprise you with my comments. Um, you know, I'm passionate about the fire stations and the safety of our firefighters. I talked with the Chief M McC McCarthy who I worked with the I think the last two years of my career um and uh am pretty happy with some of the information he gave me. But we this is an opportunity as you start the bud budget process tonight. There's still not an answer for number five. So this is a uh opportunity to make some plans to do some health and safety upgrades in that station and make it safety for habitation of firefighters. Thank you very much. Thank you Chuck sir. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Hi, my name is Mr. Nadski and I'm not as prepared as I uh often are. I for the still about what I wanted to say today and I think what I'm settling on is I want to try a little bit of a framework just saying you know I am unhappy with the way the city is managed the choices that are made dollars that are spent what they're spent on how effective it's done I want to share that it's my opinion And it's not just me that thinks this way. A lot of people around the city are losing faith in the city to be good stewards over the budget and the revenue. It's I'm afraid maybe heading to a point to where the resistance to the budget is just going to keep going up to where it's going to stop being a logical conversation about if this program a good idea is that where people are just like they're all crooks or whatever they decide to settle on to make sense of their anger. And like there's a good chance that the economic forecast is bad for the coming year and the next year. And as a matter of community engagement. I wanted to offer to share contact information, any commissioner that would be willing to sit down and talk with me about my concerns, particularly around code compliance.

But there are other things, public infrastructure, warranties on that work when that work isn't being done to industry standard. It's it's one other thing I wanted to cover and it's well maybe after the meeting. I'll be around if anybody wants to trade contact information.

Thank you for your comments. Are there any other public comments at this time? Are there any other public comments? Seeing none, I'm going to turn it over to our assist our city manager, Amanda, and um I believe she'll be introducing um some of the commissioner, some of the staff that will be helping her. Thank you.

Thank you, mayor. Good evening, mayor and commission. Um, this evening we would like to present to you the fiscal year 27 proposed budget. Uh, if you don't mind, I would like to run through the agenda um for the budget workshop here. If Vicki wouldn't mind changing the slide. Um, first we'll review the fiscal year general fund estimates and estimated addition to fund balance. Uh, then we'll go into the fiscal year 2726 proposed budget discussion and assumptions for all funds. Uh, then venture into the fiscical year 2627 general fund budget recommendations. uh discuss other funds, future budget thoughts and discussion next steps and Aaron um pun and I will be handling this and I will turn it over to Aaron to begin.

Uh thanks Amanda. Uh so estimates are the best guess between finance and departments about what is going to happen uh when you know in reality anything uh could happen. Uh next slide please. Uh so estimates show in addition to fund balance of uh 2.449 million uh this is compared to a use of fund balance in the adopted budget of uh $847,656. Uh the positive swing in the revenue estimates is due primarily to uh income tax revenue defying expectations by projecting to be uh 2.15 million in excess of budget and 2.21 million over the prior year actual. Uh interest income continues to be on an upward trajectory given the current interest rate environment uh as well as the city's more proactive approach to investing. uh an income tax or interest income is projected to be about $230,000 over budget. Uh recreation revenue uh is also about $106,000 over budget uh on the revenue side due to summer camp and athletics business units uh outperforming estimates. Uh on the expenditure side, uh the city took a very conservative approach. Um we always try to take a very conservative approach and budget worst case uh when it comes to budgeting for uh elections and police department expenditures etc. Um and that conservative budget that we plugged in for fiscal year 26 didn't really quite materialize. Um so staff has heard from commission over the past couple of years uh about a desire to set money aside for capital improvements. Um, so these estimates do not yet include a to be determined transfer to

our general capital improvement fund uh that will be used for future capital project needs. Uh, it kind of depends on where final numbers land for the general fund. Uh, year-end budget adjustment will come before the commission in June. Uh, typically we like to wait until the second meeting and get as close to the end of the fiscal year as possible. Uh, next slide please. Uh so page three, so that's tab two in your binder, is a synopsis of revenues and page nine, which is tab three, is a synopsis of expenses. And we'll go into some greater detail later. Uh but uh there's some greater detail behind those couple of pages on pages 5 through 8 and 11 through 13 uh respectively. Uh tab four uh that's page 15 in your binder shows a projected unassigned fund fund balance for the general fund of 13.7 million at 63026 uh which is 21.06% of fiscal year 27 estimated revenue. Uh if the com various members of the commission will recall that a few years back we raised the reserve threshold from uh 8% to 17%. This means that our projected ending fund balance for the current year uh is on target and I will turn it back over to Amanda.

Thank you Erin. Uh for the 20 or 2627 proposed budget discussion uh an assumption of all funds uh we are looking at a 3.2% 2% growth in advorum taxable value. If you look at um tab I'm sorry the last graph on tab 7 this translate into translates into a property tax revenue growth in the general fund the streets capital project fund and the component units. Um also there the general fund budget includes support from the downtown development authority as it usually does as it continues to budget its share of debt service in the amount of 176,303 Wyatt zone portion of the 2013 capital improvement bonds. We also contri or they also contribute over a million dollars for the central business district street maintenance and they contribute 195, 102 for 75% cost for two police officers for downtown. Uh the city also has a number of internal service funds which provide services to internal city departments. Uh that includes fleet, information technology, mail room, print shop, GIS, 311 call center and there are no anticipated augmentations to those calculations for internal fund revenues. Um, next slide, please. Uh, the it also assumes a cost of living increase at 3% and a step increase for non-represented employees. It's included across all funds. Uh, we also have raises included that are in settled collective bargaining agreements um for the 27 RA wages and they all fall within the four to 5% range. Um, and then revenue numbers also include charges um as will be proposed in the fee, bond, and insurance schedule that the commission will be asked to approve at a later date. Um along with the budget um we are also I'm sorry next slide Vicki thank you. Um the fiscal year 27 budget also includes um following onetime revenue which is 125,000 in ARPA interest income and this will be the last year for that is the money will be expended by December of this year. And then the fiscal 27 budget also includes new positions including in the fire

department for an administrative assistant to help lessen the load um on the single administrative assistant that they have there. They only have one. The police department, we are also retaining a social worker position that had been previously um grant funded. So that wasn't a um on our books as in revenue. Uh however, their services to the city have been insurmountable in talking with the chief. She's a they are a very valued member um of the team and helping to um address some issues that we have. And then also we have three uh positions going proposed positions for the Verona Wellfield. Um currently they are working 24-hour shifts and I think there are five currently in that place. Steve me um that are currently there and they're working 24-hour shifts. So we commonly have people having to work overtime, working over on holidays, getting called in. So like quality of life and better for security and just operation of the wellfield. Um, we're proposing three additional there. And I will turn it back over to Aaron.

All right. Uh, so I'm going to be talking about the general fund budget recommendation for next year. Uh, next slide, please. Oh, you're already there, Vicki. So, tab one of your binder shows the millage comparison. Uh so staff is recommending an overall millage rate of 14.9 mills which is a reduction of 296 mills from the prior year rate of 15.196 mills. Uh since a high of 15.934 mills in fiscal years 20 and 21, uh the city's overall mill rate has decreased by 1.034 mills uh to the 14.9 being proposed for fiscal year 27. Um uh the decrease is due in large part to the uh to changes in the city contribution rate to the police and fire pension um as a result of good investment earnings uh as well as higher covered payroll from the police and fire uh participants. Next slide please. Uh for the state's fiscal year 26 uh which is 101 to 9:30 uh there is new legislation creating a neighborhood road fund uh which will be funded by state income tax collections and a new excise tax on marijuana. Uh this will create about $3 million um on average between fiscal year tw the city's fiscal year 26 and 27 um in new road funding to the city of Battle Creek. Um as part of the budget proposal, staff is proposing to shift what was previously the streets millillage of 1.126 mills uh to general operating to help increase or ease the increasing burden on the city's general fund. Um, and if you look down there at the bottom, uh, that would more that the neighborhood road funding revenue will more than replace what was collected from the streets millillage. Uh, next slide, please.

So, per the city charter, the city is authorized to levy 11.6 mills. Uh, with Headley rollbacks, that cap is now at 11.3326. Based on the proposed levy for fiscal year 27, this gives us 1.7196 mills of wiggle room, and that equates to about $2.36 million. Um, the proposed decrease in the millillage would result in a savings of approximately $30 uh to a home with a $100,000 taxable value. Um, next slide, please. From fiscal year 2007 to fiscal year 2026, the general fund operating millage decreased by 1.743 mills from 9.73 to 7.987 last year, back up to a proposed 9.613 for this year. Um, so that reduction between fiscal year07 and fiscal year 26 uh would amount to about 3.72 million in today's dollars when adjusted for inflation. uh when factoring headley and losses in taxable value during the great recession uh that number is even greater. Uh so in essence the city is operating on less property tax revenue than it did 20 years ago when adjusted for inflation. Um and that places a greater burden on other general fund revenue sources to to kind of make up the difference. Uh historically anytime police and fire pension millage has increased the commission has chosen to offset it with a decrease to the operating millillage. Um the half mill in the middle column uh that you see for capital projects that was added in fiscal year 17 to help with the debt service on uh the building next door, the police station. And as mentioned uh since the high in fiscal year 2021, the city's overall mill rate has decreased by 1.034

mills. Next slide, please. So this is a graphical representation of the previous slide. Um as you can see over time as part of the whole uh the police and fire pension millillage has increased its proportionate share of the overall millillage while the proportionate share of the operating millillage has declined. Uh so just to give you some context about how we stack the city of Battle Creek stacks up with other uh municipalities. Um, so of the 13 urban core communities in Michigan, uh, nine of which have a city income tax, Battle Creek is the fifth lowest, um, in terms of operating millillage. Um, of the 24 cities that levy a city income tax, uh, Battle Creek is the 10th lowest lowest. Um, and all but one of those, um, that are less have much smaller populations. Um the 14.9 mills being proposed would be the lowest operating millage of all four cities in Calhoun County. Um and in terms of the overall millillage burden, uh the city uh the city's operating mill represents a little less than 30% of uh the Homestead uh mill property tax rate um for the Battle Creek Public School District. Um next slide, please. Uh so our general fund is funded by a three-legged stool of income sources, property tax, income tax, and state revenue sharing. So collectively, these make up uh about 80% of our general fund revenue. Um so our proposed income tax revenue is more a little bit more aggressive than it has been in previous years. Uh this is partly due to an upward trend that began in fiscal year 22. Um, with renewed collection and compliance efforts by our income tax department, we expect income tax revenue to continue on an upward trajectory. Uh, for property tax, the income the

increase in taxable value translates to approximately a $495,000 increase in revenue. Uh, state revenue sharing has a projected 2.9% increase from the fiscal year 26 estimate uh to total proposed revenue of 7.7 million. Uh so this is the time of year when the state has what's called a consensus revenue estimating conference where they talk about um economic assumptions that will inform the state's budget uh both in the current year and for uh years to come. Um so we pay attention to this uh on an annual basis to determine if we need to adjust state revenue sharing prior to budget adoption. Uh next slide. So, the proposed income tax revenue budget is less conservative than previous years, uh, with a 10.7% increase for fiscal year 26 projected, um, over fiscal year 25 actual and a 2.0% increase for fiscal year 27 proposed over fiscal year 27 projected. Um besides a dip that happened during COVID in fiscal year 21, income tax has been on an upward trajectory as a whole. Um and the income tax revenue estimates are something that we talk about frequently as a budget team um and internally within the finance department. So it is something that we're paying attention to and watching. Uh next slide, please. uh proposed fund balance is is 20.1% of estimated revenues at June 30th, 2027. Uh that meets the 17% fund balance uh reserve policy. Um the fiscal year 26 budget is the first year in the last five years that did not incorporate the use of ARPA funds. Um

uh the general fund budget includes about 1.74 million in debt service as well as the first fullyear payment uh of 1,687500 on the fire facilities bond. Uh there's a transfer to the airport fund of $950,000 with a proposed $800,000 additional capital support uh from the BC TIFFA um which will support the taxiway alpha um uh reconstruction. Next slide, please. So this is tab four in your binder. Um so on this slide we're looking at two years worth of information. The first grouping of numbers is where we started the current year in reserves at about 15.84 million. Uh the second grouping of numbers is where we expect both revenues and expenditures to land in the current year. Uh the third grouping is where we expect to end the current year uh at approximately 18.29 million in fund balance. And the fourth grouping uh represents the fiscical year 27 budget proposal with a use of fund balance of 642,000. Uh the staff is comfortable with this use of fund balance given that we have added to fund balance in five of the last six years I believe. Uh the last grouping is where we expect to end fiscal year 27 should all revenue and expense be recognized at 100% with a fund balance of about 17.65 million. Next slide, please. So, this is tab two in your minder. Uh we talked about this a little bit earlier. Um but just a couple things to call your attention to. Uh so, activity triple0, it's top line. Uh the change between the budget and the actuals um uh on that top line is due to income tax coming in better than

expected like we talked about earlier. And the difference between 26 and 27 is that shift of the streets millillage to general operating. Uh streets revenue the streets revenue increase is due to an increase in uh the transfer from the DDA to support maintenance of the central business district. Um the change to the police department revenue is due to some one-time revenues that were received to assist with uh um police academy and CPE training. Uh next slide please. So this is the general fund expense summary. This is tab three in your binder. Uh as you can see budgeted expenditures have increased from fiscal year 26 to 27. A large part of that is related to salary and benefit adjustments. Um uh couple of things to call your attention to. Um the cost of activity 315 which is in the police department on page 12 has increased for that very reason. Um the big change in the fire department is the proposed $1.7 million payment on the 2025 bond. Um the increase from the uh estimate from the third column to the fourth column for the labor attorney which is activity 267 um is due to the expiration of five of our nine collective bargaining agreements in fiscal year 27. Um and then activi the change in activity triple0 topline um was a one-time transfer to the major street construction fund um after the commission elected to reduce uh the millillage in fisc the streets millillage in fiscal year 26. Um and next slide please. Um next slide please. Uh so now we'll talk about uh some other funds. uh you know general fund is is

obviously important but we like to give you know some highlights of um some of the other funds that we're looking at that support our our city operations. So major and local street revenue uh received money through act 51 which is the gas tax collected at the pump. Um the city's responsible for maintaining in excess of 300 miles of major and local streets. Uh Michigan justice training fund. This is for training and ammunition and is funded by a state appropriation. Um you have the inspections fund. These are building, plumbing, electrical, mechanical permits. Uh enterprise funds. Um so from an accounting perspective, these function more like a business than you know your general fund or your other special revenue funds. Uh the parking fund um kind of the parking system fund kind of continues to be a challenge. uh that has a general fund subsidy uh of $330,000 uh for fiscal year 27. And that's just due to um uh stagnation of revenue and increased uh cost from our parking management company. Uh projects in the water and sewer funds include main replacements, lead service line replacements, and um consistent repairs at our both of our plants. uh internal service funds. Uh these are funds that provide in services internally to other city departments. Um so the equipment center or fleet uh maintains a combination of over 600 pieces of equipment and vehicles. Uh the self- insurance fund or the risk fund charges all city departments for all things insurance be it property liability, medical, dental, vision, workers comp, life, etc. Um, it is not just IT, but encompasses

uh GIS and the 311 uh call center. And uh the uh reproduction fund includes uh our mail room and print shop. Uh next slide, please. And now we have some future budget thoughts. So, as we continue to um move through this process and we look at this year's bud or the coming fiscal year 27 budget and budgets in the future, um Aaron touched on several of these um including we talk about the impact of the police and fire millage on the city operating millage and how those have typically operated as the fire and police mill has gone up. The city has reduced the operating millage. Um so that is something that we're going to have to take into consideration. Also, the May consistence revenue estimating conference is being held May 15th. Um, so the city will be watching, as Aaron stated, watching that closely to see if there's any augmentations that will be needed prior to us presenting the budget to the commission in June. Uh, one of the other items we need to continue to think about is our parking fund. Um, with the the structure there may need to be changed to make sure that that is sustainable. Um, it is going to be receiving um supp being supplemented basically by the general fund to continue if we don't make some augmentations there. Um, and then also the continued watching for income tax and the um the pursuit of delinquent tax u that Michael has been pursuing is something else that we will also be continuing. Is there anything else that you wanted to add to that, Erin?

Um, I don't think so. Next slide, please. Um for our next steps, we do have a public hearing set for May 19th and then we will present the budget to the commission as a resolution on June 2nd, 2026. Okay, now it's time for questions and we'll start with the vice mayor, then we're going to go to Chris Simmons, and then come back, go to Patrick O'Donnell, Commissioner Lac, and Commissioner Smith.

I'm I don't have any questions at this time. All right, Chris, do you have any questions? Chris, do you have any questions? We'll come back to Chris if he can comes online there. Uh, Commissioner Rodano. Yeah, I just wanted to Everybody talks a lot about property taxes and things. I just want to make sure I understood what you said earlier that there's like $30 less per $100,000 home this year.

So, I mean that should, you know, thank you for taking care of stuff like that. And then, uh, you also said it was the fourth largest or fourth smallest budget in the state that we're supposed right now. So, so um so our proposed operating millillage would be the uh the lowest in Cal of all four cities in Calvin County. Um and it would be the fifth lowest of the 13 uh urban core communities. Um and the 10th lowest of all of the cities that have a city income tax. Thank you for sharing that information with us again. Thank you. Sure. Thank you, Commissioner O'Donnell. Commissioner Los,

I just wanted to know a couple things. One, do we have anything in for fire station 5 right now included in the budget for updates or anything? Right now, there is nothing in the budget currently for fire station 5. Uh Chief McCarthy and I had a conversation the other day about some potential um options for station 5. Uh we do still have the contingency funds from the construction that we're doing right now. So, there are funds available should there be something that we can do. Um, but I would like to wait until after we have the two that we're currently building completed before we do that. We've already realized that a use of some of the contingency funds less than half was necessary just to lock in the rates that we had proposed from the contractors. Okay. I I I just think it's really important to do something on some level whether it's

I agree. I don't know if we can take you know that proposed fund balance um Aaron said is at 20.1% instead of the 17% that were allotted. um if we can do something there or you know anywhere, but I think we owe it to our firefighters to definitely do that. Thank you for your comments, Commissioner Lacass. Commissioner Smith.

Um yeah, I was just going to ask about the fire station, too. So, thank you for clarifying that. And then um so the capital um improvement funds, that's where we're trying to kind of get started to get the um for upcoming maintenance and things like that for the fire stations and like the police infrastructure will go. So, yeah. So, the city has had a general capital improvement fund for a long time. Um, we typically um will put some some of our budget uh or year-end surplus in there if we have any um to kind of help fund some smaller capital improvement projects. So, these would be projects that would be um probably too big to fit in an operating budget, but uh kind of too small to bond for. Um, so you know, like the HVAC replacement uh in city hall, you know, that'd be a perfect example. Um, and you know, a boiler at full blast. Um, or or the city hall roof. Um, yeah. So th those are the types of projects that we kind of target with those funds. Um, and you know, we've made lots of improvements at the Valentine Center and uh, so the 401 fund has been used to to augment, you know, stuff that we're doing out there. Um, so yeah, those those types of projects. So that's certainly something we could consider with that surplus.

Okay. Yeah, I just think that that's important going forward. I've expressed that a lot. So I'm I'm happy that we're going in that direction with that. I think that's all I had for right now. Thank you, Commissioner Smith. Um, Amanda, could you talk to us a little bit about fire stations four, five, and six? Will there be any work done at those three stations with the $22.5 million bond issue?

So, station six is getting um it's getting an extensive remodel that they're actually moving into the park space that is next to to the station. There's the green spaces there. So, yes, there will be work done there. Station five, um as I said before, there's nothing on the books at the moment for station five. We're looking at options um on what we can do there. That's that that space I feel as though if we are going to do anything there for the current building would almost be like throwing good money after bad that that building is very small. It's very tight. The space the just the plot of land that it's on is small. Um so looking at other options there um for station 4 there's I would turn over to Chief M Chief McCarthy, I'm sorry.

Yeah, right now uh for station four I believe we're putting new doors on the front. Um, and that's the extent of that. When we had it closed a few years ago, we did quite a bit of renovations on it. Um, but as far as what's coming out of the bond, I believe at this point, uh, was new doors on the front. And as we move through that the process with the building of the two stations and the work that we had completed on station one and the work that we're doing on station six, we can look at the remaining balance there of the bond issue and see what we can do for the other two stations. And then as Aaron stated earlier, look at the 401 fund and see how that can also contribute to that.

Um, you know, I wouldn't be opposed to using any of the general fund balance that we have of 21.07% of our um budget for this coming year. I just feel that uh deslight any of the firefighters that live in those three stations um 24 um hours a day um would just not be doing justice to the the firefighters and their families. So, you know, I I I like how prudent we have been, but at the same time, I think um it's important to take care of those things in the fire stations that we have been remiss on. Um, I also want to um commend the sta city staff and Amanda and her um staff in the city manager's office for um the revenue growth. Um it's almost unbelievable. Um I'm a little concerned after some of the news that we've received today whether or not the projections will be the same uh for 27. So that that's a concern that I have. Um the amount of monies that we I think it was 850,000 that we use for transportation or transit that we gave back to the citizens last year. Is that money given back again this year or is that just a one-time deal? Um so so we reduced the millillage last year to uh accommodate that $600,000 transit subsidy. Um and uh we didn't bump so we took that it was like a.34 something mills out of the streets millillage and we did not bump that back up in the current year. So, I mean,

there there's really been no there's really no been no increase. So, it's I guess you could kind of say it's continued on for a second year. Um, okay. So, the mil the millillage hasn't come back. Okay. I understand that.

Um, and finally, um, I'm to a point where I I feel a little guilty about our general fund balance. Um, we've reached, if we had a goal of 17%, we're at 21.07. Um, I I think we need to share more back with the citizens and I wouldn't be opposed to eliminating the administrative fee on the property tax statements. Um, I know that we're allowed to do that and, uh, we've always had that fee there. Um, but on an annual basis, um, it it totals around $350,000. It could be more than that, but um I just think we may be on the verge of gouging some people um when it comes to some of these um general fund balances. Don't get me wrong, I like the prudency, but at the same time um that number is kind of startling.

I I mean, I can comment some some on that. Um but feel free to jump in. Um yeah, so the administrative fee um is about a million dollars in general fund revenue on an annual basis. Oh, I didn't know it was a million dollars.

Yeah, it it's it's about it's between $900,000 and a million dollars. Um, you know, we have a number of different things that are coming down the pike from a project perspective and, um, so, you know, those are going to put constraints on the general fund budget already. Um, and you know, if if income tax estimates don't come into come up to fruition, you know, we're going to be looking at a lower percentage next year. Um, so it when you look at our millage rate and where kind of we stand within the county and within the urban core communities and our overall property tax burden, I I would say overall I think we're pretty solid. But um

so I would sorry I would agree with Aaron. Um if you look at the the budget in the millillage that we are proposing um that was contemplated in that when we're looking at the police and fire millillage returning that to the residents. Um if we are looking to spin down the fund balance if that is the concern um we can look at potentially what projects that we can include in the budget that would help spin that down for this year. I wouldn't be opposed to that. Okay. Um, the administrative fee that we assess on all property taxes, um, is that currently at 3%. It's 1%. 1%. 1%.

And if we went down to a half a percent, then we'd only be generating a half a million dollars. Yeah. I'm I'm not sure what the statute says, and I'm not sure if we have the ability to set anything other than 1%. Well, could we do this? Could we just have you make a recommendation uh city manager on that on what to do with the fund balance? My recommendation No, on the um administrative fee for property taxes, I would recommend that we leave the administrative fee at the 1% that we currently have it.

Okay, that's fine. Um Chris Simmons, are you online? Yes, I'm here. Do you have any comments?

Um, no. I you know, I've gone through the uh I appreciate the additional information that uh tonight. I'd gone through the uh the binder that was provided and I actually had my monthly meeting with Amanda yesterday and went over uh a lot of the concerns, questions that I had. So, I uh think I'm good this evening. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Are there any other um comments by the commission Amanda? I'm not seeing any other comments. So, this will conclude the meeting. I thank you for your hard work on the presentation and the numbers. Um this is a good year. Thank you very much. Meeting adjourned.