Vob Committee & Council - Regular Meeting

Monday, March 9, 2026

The Baltimore Village Council and VOB Committee met to discuss financial reports, proposed pool rate changes, and land development. Key decisions included approving financial reports, amending the agenda to include two new ordinances, and voting on several ordinances related to land use and council rules.

About this meeting

Government Body
Vob Committee & Council
Meeting Type
Vob Committee & Council
Location
Baltimore, OH
Meeting Date
March 9, 2026

Transcript

124 sections (from 1,061 segments)

1:36Speaker 1

Yeah, I was gonna say more like about 10 seconds early. We'll let guard get seated.

1:57 – 2:37Speaker 1

Oh, it's just a reminder council meeting. You need to set that earlier. Yeah. Okay. We can call the finance committee to order. Uh Brian, can I get a roll call? Foreman. Yes. McCreary and Phillips here. Okay. All in attendance, we have Matt Niheiser, Brian Bibler, and Chief Rogers. Council members uh Deb Schoffner and um Phil Mlan and Jamie Carroll. And we have a couple visitors in the audience. Is any of the visitors have anything before the finance committee?

2:35 – 2:58Speaker 1

Okay, moving right along. Um can I get an approval of the minutes from the February 9th finance committee meeting? McCra moves to accept the minutes. I'll second it. Roll call. Um Mccuri, yes. Phillips, yes. Corman, yes.

2:59 – 3:27Speaker 1

Okay. Uh, the goals as usual are to keep spending within appropriations kind of early in the year, so I don't know how we could possibly be beyond appropriations yet. Um, is there any old business before the finance committee? Okay. New business. Review the fin monthly financials. Have you guys had a chance to look at those are? Yes, Randy any any questions? No.

3:30 – 3:46Speaker 1

Okay. Um, so Brian, would you like to go over this real quick? Okay. I didn't I didn't know if he was going to have a new angle with this. Nah, you go ahead and uh Okay. Give us the cliff notes.

3:45 – 5:43Speaker 1

Okay. And the cliff notes is we end up with a balance of between the the bank and the books uh 2,466,911.70. Um we got outstanding checks of $125,000. Had a couple deposit to transits normally which is normally the credit card transactions from the utility bills. And that's pretty much it for the reconciliation. um check payment listing or check register, whatever you want to call last month, $471,541.92 worth of transactions. Um on page three, you'll see a transaction for 68,000. for the Bobcat. And then there's a $29,000 that was for the new vehicle for the water department. The $28,000 merchant bank, that's the interest on our bonds. And as you can see, I the 34 and 38, those were OWDA related payments for V3. Uh, we get reimbursed first and then I take or I should say we get check up front from OWD and then I turn that around and write a check to V3. But you'll see that the 34 I avoided because um, long story short, I flagged these. I avoided these and two days later one of them got cash and it turns out or someone stole a intercepted the mail to V3 who's in Illinois you know their

5:40 – 6:25Speaker 1

headquarters is in Illinois and one of the per cashed the check changed the name on the check and everything so wow and we caught that through the positive pay so we got our money back the whole nine yards so that's the I just voided that that those two checks like two days before we got cash because I wrote him another check two weeks later and it got cashed in three days and but the these two weeks and they were still out there. So So we intercepted that. So everything goes through positive pay at Park National. So yes, nothing can get Yes. If there's any kind of glitch in a check, mail fraud's gotten bad.

6:22 – 7:02Speaker 1

I I get it was my check. It was the same check number and everything, but they they changed the name. I think we've had this happen before, but this was but those checks, they got an image of our check where the check numbers are like way beyond where we're at. I mean, it's just it's still out there. Venmo. Venmo? I don't think so. Joking. That's not any better. Can I ask you a quick question? Just curious. Sure. What was the transaction? Emily Ruth Molina. What was that? Huh? Emily Ruth Molina, where where was it?

6:58 – 7:43Speaker 1

Uh 18880 from January 22nd and then it was adjusted on February 12th. Uh that was that was our member. She had sued us. Okay. And that was her payout. I was curious. And then the the the reduction because we got reimbured by the insurance company. Okay. We can talk about that if we go into executive session. But that we most of it was covered by the insurance. We just had the we had a $2,500 deductible. Okay. Thank you.

7:49 – 8:32Speaker 1

Okay. Okay. Any other questions from anybody? All council members included. Mhm. Are we paying them money? Yeah, we have a contract with them. Do they pay us money to the village? We collect we collect all permit fees and then we pay them an hourly rate for permit processing and based upon the contract we signed last year. So for this amount of money here, how much money that went to the village? Well, that 15 is what we paid them for their

8:31 – 9:16Speaker 1

their services, right? What I was saying is here we paid this. What's the difference between I would have Okay. Any other contract? I'm sorry. How long is that contract? I believe it's a year. I don't remember any opt outions. There could be a lot of times those contracts are structured 90 days. So many days. When did we agree to it? Last year.

9:14 – 9:59Speaker 1

Last year. last year. Are we able to modify the requirements requirements for contract? So, I mean, are we able to like like I know that one thing it said you need a permit for the water heater and I know they made people do energy audits and some of these things if you understood them better you'd understand why they're a problem. Um I guess so my understanding is those are all things that are state minimum set by the board building standards. So those aren't a those aren't safe build specific. They're not more specific. They're state they're following statements.

9:55 – 10:40Speaker 1

So they're following state. Yeah. There was a lot of conversation that took place before the approval of all of that and bringing them on board. So we had council had created a building department what 10 12 years ago I believe we have a building department and it went dormant but we didn't have it staffed implementing it and basically the county said either no do it or say you don't the state actually said you either do it or they're going to start finance but we had the option to either do it or not do it. Oh, okay. That could be so if we're going to say we have it, we have to do it. But if we say we don't have it, then we don't have to do it.

10:37 – 11:20Speaker 1

Correct. So, I mean, I don't know if we can I don't know how much we can discuss in this part versus council meeting, but what is the benefit of having that right now? They don't come out and inspect. If I got to get to redo my day or my water, I'm coming in and paying the village money. Who comes out and inspects? We have an inspector through Safe Built. His name is Chris Wilson. I was told that he will not come out. He'll do everything via Well, there is an option there. There's an option to do it uh virtually or he can come out on site to do that. Yeah, I was told

11:18 – 12:02Speaker 1

the issue with the the issue with the virtual was when stuff starts really hopping with development. The question is can we can one guy turn over those inspections as quickly as they're needed. And then that's when they talk to us about having that virtual option where as long as the homeowner or the general contractor is there to walk them through with the phone, they could do it that way. What is the Can I Yeah, you guys weren't here for the discussion, so definitely. What is the like the fee if I wanted to replace my water heater? So, let's see here. I've got the fee schedule here

12:00 – 12:45Speaker 1

and we have to follow that standard from them. It's It's not It's the state. It's not them. It's state. Well, right. But they're they're the ones making us follow that. Yes. Because their states making them follow that. So, a hot water tank permit fee is $75 on a Saturday night. I can't fix it until Monday when I can get it. Absolutely, you can fix it. And then what is requested is is that within like a three business day kind of a thing that a permit would be applied for. So, has been replaced.

12:43 – 13:28Speaker 1

I mean it'd be like if if there was electrical issue on a weekend there would not be any expectation that somebody would not have that fixed is is knocking on my door enforcement. I would recommend that because this could potentially be a litigation and we're going into session tonight for other reasons. I would recommend that we include litigation issues and details. We are going into executive later tonight. Okay. What did you ask? We are going into executive later tonight anyway.

13:27 – 13:39Speaker 1

Yes. Okay. Okay. Um anybody have anything else that finance committee?

13:36 – 14:48Speaker 1

Well, metrics there. uh interest star Ohio was $2,100 and Rita distribution in February was $ 109,000 um appropriation status there we're supposed to be around 17% so Tim's a little behind right now and all revenues are meeting expectations right now of course it's still early in the And then you have your appropriations report on the metrics on the other metrics that's in more detail. General fund's right where they should be. Tim's above a little bit right now. Same with the water fund. Why? Why is the parks and w so high?

14:47 – 15:31Speaker 1

Parks and wreck. What do you mean? It's like 36.59. Uh oh. Oh. Oh. We we we got the money uh you know through the fans. We bought the the lights the lights. Oh, the lights for the ball diamond. Yes. Okay. Okay. We got that money donated to us. Yeah, that was all donated. Great. Okay. Can I get an approval on the uh financial reports? I move to approve the financial reports as written. I'll second. Okay. Uh roll call. McCreary? Yes. Phillips? Yes.

15:30 – 16:15Speaker 1

Foreman? Yes. Okay, next meeting is scheduled for the second Monday in April, April 13th at 6 PM. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. The curry seconds. I I didn't we just meet service the last council meeting. Yeah. So why are we doing it again so soon? We moved because we moved it to the We moved it first. Financing service to the first because if safety and rules doesn't have an agenda, we'll cancel. All right. Yeah, I remember. Remember that discussion?

16:13 – 16:45Speaker 1

I remember. Uh, okay. Service committee agenda March 9th, 2026, 6 pm. Um, call to order. Everybody's here, including the mayor now. Sorry about that. That's all right. Everybody's here. Uh, approval of the minutes for I guess we need a roll call first. Okay. Phillips here. Foreman here. McClean here. And we need approval of the minutes for February 23rd, 2026. Form makes a motion to approve the minutes as presented.

16:49 – 17:34Speaker 1

Okay. Uh, Foreman. Yes. Yes. Phil Phillips. Yes. Visitors. Do we have any visitors that want to address the service committee? Do walking paths fall under the jurisdiction of the service committee? They could. Okay. Sure. What is it? I thought this I thought this for a while last meeting. We talked about ball fields and ball diamonds. Just want to put a plug to you. I know you got a lot of money that you're looking to spend. You have the wrong meaning. that a a path or sidewalk would be greatly used out there towards park. Oh, agreed. Just just something to put on the radar. Agreed. Yeah.

17:32 – 18:12Speaker 1

I know. No, agre agreed. Well, no. And I I think the land owners would be agreeable. Yes. You know, we'll look into that. And that is you're 100% right because the I've heard people in what's the group that walks in Saturday morning. Yes. going through that stretch of rock street there. Especially during the season. Yes. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That we will look we at least get a prize and see what we can do. Great writers. Yeah. And we'll look at the grants. Enthusiastic about Yes. 100%. Thanks for bringing that up. It would keep people safe because they're bikers and people.

18:10 – 18:47Speaker 1

100% it would keep them safe. You're right. If we could get them, we'd have to get all those land owners to agree to that. You know what I mean? to do it because we do it maybe from the stop sign down. But that that's a great idea. We probably have room in the easement. I don't we we utilize Yeah, maybe we do have room. We probably have room in the easement like like on That's a great idea on Gordon Street. They were like, "Oh, that's our yard." Well, no, it's not. Yeah, we found that out, didn't we? Sidewalk just disappear. It just stops. What's that? That one sidewalk. Oh, Joe Daff. Yeah. Yeah. Just stops floating. Yeah, cuz they made him do it. There's a book about that. Yeah.

18:45 – 19:20Speaker 1

All right. Yeah. Um 2026 goals, five-year plan for streets, five-year plan for water treatment plant, five-year plan for wastewater treatment plant, 5-year plan for storm and I ini. Replacement of water lines 50 years or older and village alley sent over by rules. Review round one of village alley west of Basil and review round two village alley review east of Basel. Well, they've already been reviewed. Okay. Yeah. and reports village departments.

19:16 – 19:48Speaker 1

Yeah. So, just some updates from uh two weeks ago. Uh the water modeling uh project is finished. Uh we tightened that up. Uh see here towards the beginning of last week, middle of last week, uh V3 is looking to uh redo the map that then we'll submit to council uh hopefully by the next meeting. Uh, OPWC, I found out today. I I contacted V3 because we had been told that we would find out by the end of February. Yes.

19:45 – 20:29Speaker 1

So, apparently what happened was is the OPWC application process. They missed some applications. They, I don't know, got shuffled or didn't get in for review. So, they've had to redouble their efforts and extended that review time. So, we will find out probably by the end of March if we have um if we've been approved for that project. So, so, so that's the one that uh the UP guy was going to help us get, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Call him tomorrow. That's That's Yeah, it's frustrating. But he said that we were 90% approved, so I don't understand. Well, I don't think it's necessarily our application that's holding things up. I think it was some other applications.

20:28Speaker 1

They missed the two or three. They have to evaluate that. Yeah. Still

20:33 – 21:40Speaker 1

Uh wastewater treatment plant. Uh the Jacob's group was out on site last week uh to get eyes on the plant to get some questions answered that they had in some of their gap analysis. Then this week on Monday, well I guess today is Monday, they started a 14-day sample regimen. Uh and that's just a part of that information gathering process. They are on time and they're on budget. Parks in the pool. One of the things we'll be doing at New Business tonight is looking at some new proposed pricing for uh the swimming pool. As far as pool, uh the grant that we have out there for the piece of property that we purchased across from the pool, uh met with Grabers this uh I met with Grabers last week to uh see about um the pavilion o open air shelter house. We were going to try to do that in house, but I think it's just going to be too much. So, we're going to get a quote from them and we should have that back sometime this week. Rosati was out on site last week to do some final final measurements for the opera house doors. So, I hope to hear back from him about an estimated time of

21:38 – 22:20Speaker 1

We budgeted for that, didn't we? What's that? For the doors on the opera house. Yeah. Good. Good. Uh, other than that, two things. Grants. Just want you to know we're working with V3 to submit uh the replacement of all two and 4 inch water lines to uh senators uh Marino and and uh Houston as well as Congressman Balderson for their congressional budget. So those were supposed to be I think Marino's was due today. That got pushed back to the middle of next week. I think there's one that's due on Thursday. They're just due different dates. So we're working with them uh to get that project uh submitted. But we're not putting all of our eggs in that basket. Certainly, are we?

22:18 – 22:52Speaker 1

Can I ask? Are you talking about the congressional discretionary again or is it something else? Congressional. Yeah, we're also doing the loan thing, too. Yeah, we are. So, we're not paying all our We're still doing that, but if we could, and I'm not holding my breath on that, we could really replace some water lines. Right. Those lots and lots. Yeah. And some of those are matching, but we can match with the loan. Yes. So instead of borrowing 100%, we'd borrow 50% and still maybe be eligible for the lead reimbursement. Yes. Maybe. So,

22:50 – 23:33Speaker 1

yep. And then we're also working with V3 to uh submit for the CDBG critical infrastructure grant. Um working or I'm sorry, working with Hicks Partners in V3 to do that submitted early April. That is to replace 640 ft of water line out in front of the fire department. The fire department. Sorry. Yeah. N you're good. What that is is that's old water line and twice the fire house has trained on that water line and twice they blew the line. It's not their fault. The line needs replaced but ch they're going to pick a water line that is new to do their training now. Not until then

23:31 – 24:09Speaker 1

until we get it. But with that happening, it made Casey look into that and then this is a grant that we didn't know about. So, this may be some more money that we can get our hands on for more water. I think there's a brand new 12-in line about 50 ft away. There is. Yes, sir, there is. Yes, sir, there is. And that's the grant, too. And we didn't get um the neighborhood revitalization grant. Uh Holly Maddie from regional planning encouraged us to go after the critical infrastructure grant thinking that there were some of the projects we had. Well, because the school's right there and because the firehouse is right there, it's we would be a contender for sure.

24:06 – 24:49Speaker 1

Yep. And then lastly, just wanted you to know that starting on starting sometime the week of March 16th, Joseph Tree Care will be in the village. Uh they were awarded the contract for the OD&R grant to remove and prune uh dead or dying trees in the village. Once that's done, then we'll get some quotes for stump removal. And then we'll and we'll do that sometime this summer. And then the plan is to do some planting in the fall with that grant money. So, and that's all grant money. That's all I had. Yep. Park and Recreation Board. I think you spoke to that as far as the

24:46 – 25:21Speaker 1

as far as the uh the open shelter house and then the downtown restoration committee other than the doors. Brandy, do you have anything? Um, no. We want to make sure everybody receives their invitation to the event um that will be held in April. Yes. So, we would like to have as many people there as possible. 100%. Yeah. Old business. New business. We got pool listed here.

25:18 – 26:05Speaker 1

Yeah. So, um at your seat tonight, there is a uh a document just with proposed updates for uh swimming pool rates and categories. I'll just go over this quickly and then see if you have any questions. uh everything that's in regular type uh is current and then the bolt type is the recommended changes. So one of the things we investigated was a half season discount. So anything after July 5th would have a 30% discount. We found out that that's what most communities do is that 30% discount. And so like with the single membership the membership amount actually ch it stays the same as it was in 2025. But then after July 5th, uh a single membership would go down to 70,

26:05 – 26:48Speaker 1

right? And then a non-resident would go from 160 to 112. And then you can see that reflected in the various categories. Uh we also decided and saw in other communities a senior's membership. And so this would be 60 plus. And you can see that's a whole brand new category that we don't have currently in our pricing. And so you can see the reduced pricing for them. and then also their halfyear um discount. The other change we made was under the babysitter, the add-on to any membership, it was $20 for an entire year. We bumped it to 50 and then that would mark that would come down to $35

26:44 – 27:27Speaker 1

after July 5th. Same with um limited family memberships. And then the other change was under pool rental. Yes. Currently we charge 175 for both residents and non-residents for pool membership. What we found is uh with other pools I mean we kind of discarded Canal Winchester just because of I mean it's a complex right but like the Breamman pool their um their pool rentals 225 and 275. So we thought that was more of a village pricing. So, we recommended that we would do 225 for a resident, 275 for a non-resident.

27:24 – 28:23Speaker 1

The other thing we added to, and one of the things we've had we've had struggles with, is how do you define what a household is? How do you define what a family is? How do you define um what's the mechanism for proving residency? And so on the back of that paper, we put in a household definition. And so, you'll notice here a married couple single adult with one or more children. Those would be considered households or two d two adults that live under the same house regardless of sex with or without children residing at the same address. We did add we did recommend a restriction that there can be no more than two adults aged 22 and over on any household membership. We have that. We've had that uh as we look back at family memberships where it's it's mom, it's dad, it's aunt, and it's uncle. And we've had like a family of six, but four of them are adults,

28:23 – 29:06Speaker 1

right? And so we just wanted to make a statement that we recognize kids, kids, young adults going through college, but once that 22 mark two up to two. What if it was mom, dad, grandma, some kids? So, two adult, it'd be a two adult limit. And then grandma has a senior membership if she would want a membership. Okay. And then the proof of residency must be presented. We're thinking a water bill. Yeah. Be something when they sign up for that. Yeah. Because you can look that up. So, those were just proposed. Um, obviously they're not written in stone, but for your consideration,

29:04 – 29:49Speaker 1

well, we need to generate more money for the pool. Correct, Brian. Uh, yeah. And just to note, daily admissions that nothing of that changed. Kids, residents, non-residents, daily admissions didn't change. Well, the one thing that we are going to be a little bit more adamant at the pool this year is we're going to make it very clear to the pool manager that if it is raining, we're not going to sit there all day with five lifeguards or six or whatever it is and pay them to sit in the rain. We're not going to do that. We're going to close the pool and move on. And we've had and we've had those talks. Good. Okay. Anything else? Business.

29:48 – 30:30Speaker 1

Well, what do you want to do with this? Because we'll have to have an ordinance done on this to modify what we pass in two and because and pool's right around the corner. I mean, yes, send it to council. Well, if you guys all agree on it, you agree. If you agree on you, just have just make a motion to draft legislation for this. I'd like to see like a senior add-on to the family that's not, you know, cuz like you might have a widowed grandmother, you know, who has moved in with the family. She don't have a water bill or proof of electric or anything like that because the family Well, I don't want to make her pay an additional what is it? $60. Mhm. For the year,

30:28 – 31:11Speaker 1

but maybe, you know, for a full membership, but you know, an add-on for seniors to the family. I'm just throwing it out there. Sure. Does that happen very often? I guess something like that you could take for a case by case. Well, and that's that's one of the reasons we did the senior membership is I I'm not sure how many senior memberships we yearly memberships we really get, but we did want to honor the fact that if somebody as a senior wants a senior membership that we would but I know for a fact people try to take the mom, the dad, the grandma, the grandpa, the aunt. I don't see any reason why we wouldn't just up the limit of adult members in the family up to three. up to three

31:10 – 31:52Speaker 1

because then that that that opens the door to the mother-in-law suite or the I mean it's unlikely mom, dad, and grandma are all three going to go anyway, but but grandma's going to have those kids. I don't see any reason not to up it to three. Yeah, that's a good idea. We still limit the number to six. Yeah, grandma's probably not going to go in the water until after July. So, one of the things that the chief brought up that might that might be worth us uh discussing too is under the other rates and rentals, the pool rental. So, up to 50 people is 225 and 275, but then the pool rental each additional 50 people is only 25. 100% we should do that.

31:50 – 32:34Speaker 1

But the issue was is it's two there are twohour rentals and if you're if they making 12 bucks an hour, you're only really paying for one hour for two people. So the question is, do we want to raise that because a additional 50 people is going to require extra lifeguards. Yeah. It's only 50 cents per person, right? At that rate, right? And we're raising that from people. Well, the question is do do we want to like do we want to increase that to 50 and it's a dollar a person or we're paying for our to make it look better. 20 $25 for each additional 25 people. It's the same number. It's the same number. But

32:31 – 33:16Speaker 1

so for $25, you can have 50 more people. That's not That's not reasonable. You can't have a hundred people there. Two more guards. Maybe three more guards. But yeah. So 225 gets you 50 people. Yeah. I would say that if we went to like 450, you could have up to 100. Then what's the limit on the pool? I don't know what the limit on the pool is. 200. Well, it it's it's all on guards really, right? But isn't it 200? Isn't that the Because there's a couple. But if you're having a group that big, you don't really even know how many people are going to show up at that point. Once you're over 50 people, your your invitation, you don't know whether you're going to have 50 or 60 or 75. So over there, we're over 50 people, right?

33:14 – 33:59Speaker 1

Well, last year they had to stop letting people in until people left on hot days, right? Because there was 200 people in the pool. Not in the pool, but I mean at the pool. So, I mean, if we rarely ever have one over 50, why not just make it another 225 for another 50 people? Well, now you got 450 for a hundred people. That way, you're paying for the guard. Yeah. You're just your big be like the softball team, the baseball team, stuff like that. Correct. Maybe an occasional part. Are you looking up the ratio? Yeah, but even even them ratio is the girls won the 25 to state two years ago. 25 to one. 25 people to one lifeguard.

33:56 – 34:31Speaker 1

So it wasn't even you know what I mean? Whatever you guys think. I don't I think 25's I think that should be raised to at least 50. Okay. It's a buck a person after that. Well, that's a deal. But it's only for two hours, too. No, 50's. Yeah. But but who'sever the manager over there is going to have to control that and count that. You know what I mean? Well, they when they sign up, they they let them know how many is going to be there. They put on the sheet how many people they expect.

34:28 – 35:12Speaker 1

We just got to cover the cost of of the lifeguards. I mean, there's just we can't because we're or we'll be filling that pool full of dirt if we don't start making some more money off of it. And I've never said that and I don't want to do that, but I'm just And parties was very undervalued. Yeah. Yeah. So how many people are in the parties gener like I know you probably don't have most of them are within 50 but when they fill out their form they they they can go they they may have they may we estimate 75 to 80 people you know. Okay. Do we know how many parties like last year uh that those four sitting there are here but I

35:10 – 35:53Speaker 1

they're put away right now. I mean there's a stack of pool parties like that. There was there was at least six or seven pool parties last year though. Oh, there was more than that, was there? Okay. Yeah. I mean, I know there was quite a few. 55 people, I'm going to have to pay the 100 person rate because that's why I was pushing for the 25 for 25 or something like that. For 50 for 50. Yeah. Well, 50 for 50, I'm still going to pay, you know, if I have 55 people, I'm going to pay for 100. What if you just did an add-on two bucks a person after the first 50? That's that's even better. Yeah. And if you have 51, you're not paying the 50 extra count. So, somebody does have to cancel. Yeah. Well, so that you're going to have to talk to Brett about that. We'll talk to Brad about that.

35:51 – 36:34Speaker 1

But in the meantime, the pool opens in a little over two months. Yeah. So, if we want to We want to get these fees in place. We're going to move to council tonight. We got to move to Well, we got to have Jeff, right? Right. But, but and we could pass that upon emergency, too. Yeah. Next council meeting. Can I ask a question about this? So, um, when people have pool parties and they say they how many people they think might be coming, there's no what I mean and they said, let's just say they said 45 and it's and it ends up being 60. I mean, you don't do a head count there, do you? I mean, yeah, there's a counter as they walk in the door. Yeah, they

36:31 – 37:15Speaker 1

Well, what do you do about an extra lifeguard if they go over when they That's why we really need to know that before and we tell them that beforehand. Yeah, we we if it went over the ratio, they wouldn't be able to enter. Yeah. Or they wouldn't be able to swim it. Are there refunds if they don't hit the number that they their estimate? Nope. No. So, did we end up at $2 a head over 50? Yeah, that's that's good, isn't it, Brian? Well, that's up to you guys decide. But I'm just saying I feel like we if if you get to 50 and you get to 60 and in another you know get to 50. So if you get another 10 that's another 20 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine for two hour. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

37:12 – 37:54Speaker 1

So we changed uh the number of adults on the uh family membership and we changed the additional people on the rental. Is that all we changed? Just a clarification. If those additional people are under three, they're free, right? Or no, not in not in a pool party. Okay. No, because we have to. And the only reason, Phil, is because we have to bring the lifeguards in special for that. I guess that's why. Yeah. Someone will, you know, somebody will I agree. I agree. Somebody will. Trust me. No, that's that's the daily rate. Yeah. Yeah. Not. So, I would just make it two bucks a person.

37:52 – 38:07Speaker 1

Okay. So, do we need a motion to send this to council? Or can we just have Jeff write a motion and do it? No, they they need to have the motion to move the council as amended. Form second.

38:10 – 38:51Speaker 1

Now, usually the guy who sponsors is you you end up sponsoring this piece of legislation, too. That'll be my first sponsor. There you go. So, and didn't cost you any money. Appreciate the training wheels. Um, okay. All in favor? I I Okay. Okay. Great. We We do have one Oh, I'm Oh, go No, no, go ahead. We do have one other piece of new business. Jeff, did you want to address this or did you need to? I have no idea. The Creek View with uh Mr. Ryan Shields. Go ahead. Okay. So, at your chime in.

38:49 – 39:34Speaker 1

Okay. Uh there's also there's also a document at your uh at your seat uh regarding uh South Creek View. This is a property owned by Kenny uh Rin Shields. He had come before planning and zoning. Uh he has uh 4.682 acres there off of South Creek View that had been platted for seven individual um lots. And what he wants to do is and what planning and zoning approved was he wants to vacate the seven parcel setup and he just wants to he wants to replat that as one 4.8 parcel and build one house on that large lot.

39:32 – 39:51Speaker 1

Yeah, that's good. So, uh, that just has to be something that's approved by council and and technically it probably doesn't require legislation, but the county said we need an ordinance um for this and uh so it's come back to change map. Yeah,

39:50 – 40:33Speaker 1

but you there's nobody in here that would disagree with that, is there? And we included emergency language because this issue was addressed by planning and zoning in the last fall and now we're just learning that the county is saying we want um an ordinance uh number that we can assign to this. So it's seven as Matt indicated seven lots um and and the proposal is to the game plan is to replplat it to one single lot and to develop it accordingly. I think it was unanimous vote. It was. Anybody have any objections to that? Just out of curiosity. Okay.

40:31 – 41:09Speaker 1

The agenda will need to be amended to include that legislation and one more piece of legislation. Anything else, Matthew? No. No, sir. Jeff, not on that. Do they have to do anything? I mean, on this I know that Well, yeah, they'll have to take this to council. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do a motion to send former makes a motion to send uh this vacating of the seven lot plat to a single lot plat. I'll second it. All in favor? I I

41:11 – 41:39Speaker 1

uh any other new business. All right. Next meeting is going to be uh second Monday in April, April 13th at 6:30 or immediately following conclusion of the finance committee. Get a motion to adjourn. Makes a second. Okay.

1:01:26 – 1:01:53Speaker 1

Father who in heaven be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power, and the glory forever. Amen.

1:01:50 – 1:02:31Speaker 1

I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, Brian, could I have a roll call, please? Uh, Carol, yes. Foreman, yes. McCreary here. Mlan, here. Phillips here. Schoffner here. Can we get an approval from the minutes of February 23rd council meeting?

1:02:29 – 1:03:08Speaker 1

Form makes a motion we approve the minutes as presented. I'll second it. Can I get a roll? Any discussion on that? May I get a uh Foreman? Yes. Carol, yes. McCra, abstain. That's right. Um, McClean, yes. Phillips, yes. Shuffner, yes. Okay. Can we get an approval for the agenda this evening? It needs amended. If we need to amend it. Yeah, it needs amended to include ordinance 2026-07 and 2026-8.

1:03:06 – 1:03:51Speaker 1

Okay. Four makes a motion approve the agenda as amended with 26-7 and 26-8 added to the agenda. I'll second it. Any discussion? Can I get a roll call, please? Brian. Uh Foreman, yes. Carol, yes. Mccur, yes. Mlean, yes. Phillips, yes. Yes. Okay. Uh oh, that's to amend it. Now we needed approval. Oh, okay. Oh, that was Yeah. Okay. Uh for makes a motion we approve the agenda as amended. Second. Can we get a second on that? Jamie. Oh, can I get a roll call on that, please? Foreman. Yes. Carol, yes. McCreary,

1:03:51 – 1:04:04Speaker 1

yes. Mlan, yes. Uh Phillips, yes. Sha, yes. Okay. Um, I see we have some visitors. Uh, would any of the visitors like to speak?

1:04:08 – 1:04:51Speaker 1

Now's the time. Yep. Now is the time. This is it. Yent, as well as section one. And you are with who? for you. Yeah. So, you're working for Dr. Horton and you are doing the clearing. No, I'm not doing the clearing. I apologize for Okay. some of the things I've heard you've gone through as well. Um, but yeah. No, I'm just here just to represent, you know, the product and answer any other questions. Okay. So, so what do you what does your company do for them? Well, I designed this whole I designed your whole thing. You do site design?

1:04:49 – 1:05:31Speaker 1

I did it all. Yeah. everything seen so far. I've done everything of it. Okay. Except for the final engineering construction every single thing on here. So, so I have a couple questions right off the riff. Um I I heard that the COE pro property was closed on. Is that correct? I was told everything was closed. Okay. It has. Okay. So, my question is, do you know how soon they'll be tearing that house down? That's my first question. I don't I don't Can I ask? Yeah, we'd like an answer to that. I think I think has more Do you know when the So, uh, uh, Tamarak gave them a twoe notice. Tamarak. Yes. Okay. And I believe that twoe notice ends on Friday and the squatters.

1:05:30 – 1:06:15Speaker 1

And then at that point then if they're not gone, they'll begin the eviction process. Okay. Okay. So, it's my understanding that this year we're just going to be clearing land and installing some streets. that as far as houses finished product, there could be five, there could be 10, but probably none sold this year. Is that correct? Yeah. I mean, it's Do we know how far they are in the in the approval process for the construction drawings, whatever? I think there's probably a pavement date, you know. Okay. Yeah. Well, because I saw one thing on social media that you're going to build the first 150 this year and the next 150 next year, then the next 150 the year after, but there's only a total of 180 houses. Okay. Oh yeah. Okay.

1:06:14 – 1:06:59Speaker 1

Well, I'm just saying I I didn't know what to believe. So, I'm sure that they you know they once everything's approved and when I I talked to Dave and he gave me the impression that they were going to try to get seven to 10 construction houses, but that they probably wouldn't be sold and then next year maybe 30 that it was a five to sevenyear project. Does that sound right to you? That sounds about right. Okay. They got to test the market. Yeah. No, and that's he said the same thing as well. Sounds like great, you know. Okay. And they're a bigger company, so they'll probably do that five or seven homes like the homes you can spec, right? Spec homes. Yes. Okay. They'll do that sort of thing and you'll see what

1:06:56 – 1:07:39Speaker 1

works out here and build a few more spec homes, whatever. Think this is how I've seen them do it over the years. I guess I so while we're talking about since you did do all the plan I don't know the exact what's the acreage of green space in that development. Well I don't have that plan with all those numbers on there off hand. Gosh. So that's another question we can ask but I these are just questions that I've been asked but I was under the impression it was 20 to 30 acres. Does that sound right? Seems like the northeast corner had a fairly large park and not getting houses. Yeah.

1:07:37 – 1:08:18Speaker 1

Yeah. Um that's that's a acre there just under I believe there's that's 2.3 I believe and those are just just under is that east line is that oh all that's green space. Yeah. So I was under the impression it was 30 acres in your design but there's acorage there that isn't even in your design. So I guess we're curious on how much acres that is. That's what he's talking about. Green space. Green space. Yeah. Yeah. It's quite a bit. That's just a question. Yeah, you're right. I can find it out for you, mayor. Yeah. Yeah. The numbers are all on my approved plan of plans. I just don't have that right now.

1:08:16 – 1:08:51Speaker 1

So, while he's got this plan here, does anybody else have any other questions? They put a play area in it, didn't it? Is there a play area in it, too? Yes. Yes. Yes. That's the one that's like an acre. Kitty lot or something like that. Yeah, it was like tot lot. Do we have an easel for him? No, but we do need to get an easel. There's an easel. Would you prefer an easel, sir? Yeah. Somebody grabbing. We're getting an easel for you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There

1:08:54 – 1:09:31Speaker 1

go. So, it's a nice little spot to maybe on your front page there. Doesn't it just say doesn't it say open space down there in the right hand corner? Yeah, it does. It does. Bottom right. Yeah, that's going toward the railroad tracks. That's just the part that's in the plat. Yeah, there's quite a bit of acres that isn't even in his Yeah, cuz that drawing it would have to be two or three times bigger to show all the green space that's in there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that's okay. That's okay.

1:09:34Speaker 1

Oh, there it is.

1:09:41 – 1:10:24Speaker 1

He actually says this open. That's just the bottom half. That's just the bottom. Yeah. I thought I was thinking it was 30 acres of green space. Well, the parcel to the northeast that Ricky was referencing is a little over 13 acres. Okay. Um that's not part of that drawing, but it is part of their land. Those should extend telescoping, aren't they? Yeah, they should. How many people does it take to put up a Well, if you think a school teacher could probably put it together real Oh, wait a minute. Brian, say I'm just a physical officer. No, I'm teasing Randy. She's No, they should be telescoping.

1:10:23 – 1:10:44Speaker 1

That was It's all right. Anyway, it's okay. Does anybody else have any other questions, Mr. Maybe they do know what is it? What's that price? Average price.

1:10:41 – 1:11:26Speaker 1

Starting at 350 going to 450, but there will also be a couple 500s in there as well. No. And if nobody has any questions, we're not going to drive this guy crazy. And I didn't mean to ask you a bunch of questions. I'm here usually full of answers, but you know that figured you have all that. Show it. You know, I've been worked on this thing for so long. Just set it right here. Seriously, I could care. Let's just Yeah, that's okay. Brian, don't worry about it. We're good.

1:11:25 – 1:11:45Speaker 1

He's punting. We're running out of question. I can know what he's thinking right now. Yeah. So, with the trees, I did count them all up. I know we're taking some down. Of course, the big Sure. trees, but there is going to be a total of 439 street trees. Yeah,

1:11:43 – 1:12:25Speaker 1

just total trees. One's going to go in the landscape by beach yard. One will be basically land street include the 48 trees or whatever that's going to go up there in the front trees that'll eventually get bigger and I don't know I mean I really don't know how many actual trees you know I think one of my main concerns too um is the entryway I shared this Jack when I talked to him last week, I want that entryway to be beautiful. And Tamarak is actually doing the work. Is that right?

1:12:24 – 1:13:09Speaker 1

Well, they're like the third party. They're the money guys because many home builders do this because they have there's their stock and and if they have too much money on the books basically, right, all this, they use these third party guys or money guys. DR doing everything. They're on board everything. The team is really just paying paying for this stuff. But Gotcha. Well, I just need to know who to call and yell out if there's mud on the street or if there's something not right. We We got all those numbers. Okay. Okay. Then I'll shut up. Sorry. No, you're good. I just wanted you to know that. Yeah. For that. And then Yeah. As far as the landscape goes, the entryway is what I was interested. Yeah, it blended gardens is the best. They really Oh, is that who's doing it? Yeah. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they always do a good job.

1:13:08 – 1:13:52Speaker 1

Yeah, I got you. So, so I'm sure that whatever they have planned is, you know, right here. And it was okay with your Steve guy and yes, our our tree guy. Yes. Okay. So, that's the entrance with So, this is a little trees. So, will that be on both sides and the entry going in? Okay. The mirror image of each other on the entrance and then that fence that fence will be up as well. Okay. So, it'll look nice. Sign the side, right? Okay. It's going to be ugly for a while. It's okay that it's going to be ugly. Yeah. Really? That's a win right there.

1:13:51 – 1:14:28Speaker 1

Yeah. But that's not the type of greenhouse we want out there anyways. Anybody have any other questions? Well, you got off easy. Does mist come with it foggy all the time? Then it clears up. It's a late October day. All right. Thanks. Thank you. Is there uh anybody else that would like to speak in the gallery? Yeah. I want to say something. Sure. How bad can make everybody? Yeah.

1:14:26 – 1:15:10Speaker 1

Uh so I'm a guy that sometimes does change out hot water heaters and fix things and do things and I can see both sides of the safe build thing. And I think that there is wisdom to this. I also lived in Columbus where you needed a permit to do all these things. I understand some of this. And while I don't want to participate in this if I don't have to, I also am confident in my work and interested. I would just say to you, this is just me editorializing. It's okay. Be confident in your work and don't let these knuckleheads rattle you. Don't Don't let them get you. Yeah.

1:15:09 – 1:15:32Speaker 1

You know why? I guess I guess like you know when we posted that it was with the best intention. We're trying to be organized. We're trying to look like we're we're do but trying to get in front of right. But are we going to be the water hot water tankuh police? We're not because we don't have that manpower or the time.

1:15:30 – 1:16:11Speaker 1

And I'm not saying that that's right. And what I'm saying is wrong the words that are coming out of my mouth. But I'm just saying unless we're going to watch every person, but that's a state thing. That isn't a Baltimore thing because everybody think and it's not an extra tax like I saw that too. It's just there's certain things you have to have permits. I mean, I saw a couple years ago there was a guy building a deck out of pallets. You know, we you got to have permits for safety stuff. So, my brother's house is actually one of the most permitted buildings I think maybe in this. He has the sidewalk in front. He's got the sidewalk. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure it is. He also has a deck that he did build out of pallets. But my brother works he's a master with pallets just

1:16:09 – 1:16:48Speaker 1

right. But um when I say that I mean though it's like we we we just want things to be safe and and and that's all it is and but you know that got way blown out of proportion. I I think I would I think I understand uh the intention behind this and where it goes. What I want to say, my point that I'm meandering about is I guess I disagree with taking that discussion to executive session. I think it should be held out here with No, we're having it right now. Well, I know, but the, you know, the good the real good discussion, the part where Jamie gets mad. What you're hearing is exactly what what what we would say, but we're going to executive session.

1:16:46 – 1:17:01Speaker 1

I think the reason to go to executive is legal ramifications of we would break the contract or keep the contract or our obligation to or not. Have a discussion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for letting me ramp.

1:16:59 – 1:17:58Speaker 1

Yes. No worries. Okay. If there are no other visitors, um we'll go to administrative reports. You know, I I don't really have anything. Well, I have a lot of things, but I it has nothing to do with what we were just talking about, but I I do have some things to talk about in executive session. Um, I feel like uh what Matt shared with you on these grants and these loan, you know, we didn't do we didn't do a water project last year because we got denied. I think there's going to in my mind there's going to be two to two to four water projects this year and I think it's actually going to happen. The grants that are coming from the politicians, as much as I'd like to think we'd get them, I I don't I don't I don't know. I I the one thing I will tell you is when we once everything's applied, those two senators, am I saying that right?

1:17:55 – 1:19:55Speaker 1

We'll have numbers and I don't I'm not afraid to call the senator every single week and I'll share those numbers with you guys and if you want to call the senators and tell them who you are and what we're trying to do, please do. Um because there's money out there and we deserve it. You know, everybody wants Baldm, you know, we're all these small villages. They they want to be good with uh people with housing and all this other stuff. We we deserve it more than anything. I guess my biggest frustration is that when Tim is fixing water lines, they're 90 uh freaking years old. I didn't It's 90 freaking years old. So, I don't know why in the last 30 years we didn't replace more than we did. Maybe there was the money. maybe there was and there's really not the money now. We're we're trying to figure some of that out. Um, hence some of the building that's coming to the village that we're going to use every penny of that to stick back in. Um, as far as infrastructure goes, according to the EPA and according to Scott, if we build 100 or 250 houses, I'm not saying we're going to this year because we're not, but if we were to build 250 more houses, we could handle 250 more houses. Now, is the water good now? Obviously, we have 90 year old water pipes. So, we we we're going to drill new well. We're going to start replacing those water pipes. I think that, you know, in the next two to three years, a lot of this stuff's going to improve. And I think the water has improved and and I've heard this from other people has improved just in the last three years um since Scott's been here. Um I feel like he's got a little bit more of a pulse. We're meeting with the EPA like we've never meeted with the EPA and we're passing the inspections and things are happening, but you know, this takes time. This was a big show to start out with. So, we're we're going to try to to to turn a corner and make things better, but it it takes time

1:19:53 – 1:20:36Speaker 1

and it takes money. And, you know, I don't I don't know where some of these people get that the village has a lot of money, but we don't. And and I don't think we will for a very long time. So, that's really all I've got as far as the mayor's report. I'm best to shut up. Go ahead, Matt. I don't have anything to add to my report unless there's questions. Mr. Fiscal Officer, do you have anything to share with us? No, I don't have anything else. Although, wait. Well, no, nothing to add. Um, that's not this week. Next week, I'll be attending the local government officials conference, though. That's next week. Next Thursday and Friday. Okay. Mr. Solister,

1:20:33 – 1:22:33Speaker 1

couple um comments. The um newly added ordinance to the agenda 07 is the uh an ordinance to approve the replatting of the Creek View subdivision which was discussed in committee earlier. Pretty straightforward piece of legislation. Um again, it does include emergency language uh on that. Um the second piece of legislation also includes emergency language. That's an ordinance. It's 0 to amend the rules of council. That would that rules committee um to allow the chairperson of a committee to count cancel a scheduled meeting if there are no agenda items. We didn't need to tweak the rules of council much u because those rules don't automatically provide for dates and times of meetings. it just indicate that that's up to the committee and the chairperson of each committee to establish those. But um the current language and rules of council indicates that um that um all committees except rules shall have at least one monthly meeting. That's the language we uh tweak to indicate that u that th those meetings if there are no agenda items can be cancelled by the chair person. That's it on uh the new legislation. Um as was commented earlier, uh the uh developers of Liberty Ridge have closed on uh the parcels out there. They've purchased those um at the current Sleepy Hollow subdivision and the adjacent 1.15 acres. uh they've purchased both of those which means essentially that the um legislation can move forward that addresses that one being um the third

1:22:29 – 1:23:14Speaker 1

reading on ordinance 2026-03 which is to approve the final plat for Liberty Ridge and ordinance 20261 can be untreated ordinance that vacates the final plaque Sleepy Hollow subdivision. Um, and then lastly, I would ask for a brief executive session after regular business to discuss litigation matters uh and land acquisition matters. And I would invite um everybody at the table here. Um that's it. Okay. All right. We're going to go into village council reports. Uh finance

1:23:12 – 1:23:50Speaker 1

uh the finance committee did meet tonight, mayor. And um I think everyone that's here was in attendance. And our next meeting is on April 13th at 6 p.m. Service committee. We met tonight. Our next meeting is second Monday in April, April 13th at 6:30. Safety committee. Yes, we did not meet tonight. Our next meeting is going to be held. So it's going to be in 27th. If you have an agenda. Okay. If we have an agenda. Yes. Which which one is first? Is rules is first. Okay. And the last but not least is rules.

1:23:47 – 1:24:31Speaker 1

Rules. Um, we did not meet tonight. Um, our next meeting again same as Brandy will be March 23rd at 6 p.m. Now, if she don't have an agenda, which Brad will reach out to both of you, yours will be you go to 6:30. Instead of 6, it'll be 6:30. Okay. Let's just say it's a 6:30. We always say it's immediately after the safety committee is generally at 6. Well, no, no, theirs is first. Theirs is at 6. Oh, okay. Okay. Safety follows. Probably if we don't have an agenda for one, we probably won't have an agenda for the other.

1:24:28 – 1:25:05Speaker 1

There's an agenda item for Okay. All right. Let's go to public safety reports. Chief, do you have anything? Um, just a couple quick things. First off, the scamming calls are just getting out of control. We get calls every day. Um, just if you talk to anybody, just please pass on that no one will ever call and ask for money. No, no, not from the village. From from the sheriff's department, from the parking enforcement agent. We're getting all kinds of craziness. So, or to meet at the Dollar General parking lot

1:25:02 – 1:25:45Speaker 1

that Yes. to drop off money. They're not going to ask for gift cards. If they try to keep you on the phone, just hang up. It's happening all over the place. And the other thing we've uh um we have a rash of uh counterfeit $100 bills roaming through the town um through businesses, the bank, every all kinds. So be aware of that. So be aware of that, I guess. Okay. Um fire district board Jamie, do you have anything there? No, we don't meet till next week. Next week. Okay. Let's go to village committees and planning. Planning and zoning. I think we have a meeting this Thursday. Yes.

1:25:43 – 1:26:25Speaker 1

To go when I don't even know what's on Yes. There's a variance request from um from Bob Jude. Yeah. On a lot split that he's has up off of Cliff and Hansburg. Yes. Yes. Okay. Tree commission. As far as tree commission goes, we're, as Matt said earlier, we do have a tree company that's going to go and start doing some pruning. When does that start? It's going to be at least after March, what is that? March 12th. Okay. That week sometime be about four or five days worth of work depending on. Gotcha. Records commission. Brian, do you have anything for that? No. Okay. Um, go into motions then.

1:26:22 – 1:27:07Speaker 1

Former makes a motion that uh we go into executive session immediately following the meeting to discuss litigation matters. Crazy. And land acquisition and land matters. Do we have to vote on that, Brian, or is just the motion enough? Okay. Could I get a roll call on that? McCree, you seconded that. Yes. Foreman? Yes. McCreary? Yes. Carol? Yes. Phillips? Yes. McClean? Yes. Jofflin? Yes. Okay. Go into ordinance and resolutions. I'm going to read these four and then there's two other ones that I need to read. Is that correct? Well, I would read the the two that have just been added to the agenda because those are

1:27:05 – 1:27:47Speaker 1

these are this. Yes. Seven and eight. 07 is the first one. Um. Oh, okay. In an ordinance to approve the replatting of Creek View subdivision phase two and the declaration of an emergency. Um, needs a um I need a sponsor for that. Who may who who brought it? No, I think Foreman sponsored that one. Well, we just brought it up tonight. We don't Yeah, I know, but it was discussed as service. Can you sponsor that one? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

1:27:44 – 1:28:27Speaker 1

We would Do we do that now? Will we ask for a suspension of the three? Council wants to do I I would request if council would be willing to suspend the three reading rules just to expedite things for Mr. Ryan Shields. Yeah. because we're going to go from seven houses to one house on one big lot, which is what we all want. So, for makes a motion to uh suspend the three reading rule on 26-7. I'll second it. Roll call on that, please. Brian, uh Foreman, yes. Carol, yes. McCree, yes. McClean, yes. Phillips, yes.

1:28:25 – 1:29:08Speaker 1

Schoffner, yes. So now what do we do? For me makes a motion to adopt. Okay. Second discussion. Any discussion? Thank you. I'm not familiar with I mean it seems like everybody's familiar with this. I'm not I mean what is the purpose of going because he doesn't want to sell a bunch of lots and he wants to have a bigger yard. In order to develop those lots, you have to extend the street and the sewer and the water. A large percentage of it is flood plane from W Creek. Yeah. It's a good thing. If it was easy to develop, I would have bought it. Not.

1:29:09 – 1:29:52Speaker 1

So now, can I have a roll call? Foreman. Yes. Carol, yes. McCreary, yes. McClean, yes. Phillips, yes. Chopner, yes. Okay. So, the next ordinance that I'm going to read is uh 26-08. Uh who is the sponsor? We don't have a sponsor for that. I need a sponsor. This is uh It did come out of rule rules of Well, I might as well. Okay. Yeah. So, I was going to ordinance amending chapter 220-02 rules of council of the Baltimore codified co code ordinances and in the declaration of an emergency. So we need do we need to suspend for this

1:29:50 – 1:30:32Speaker 1

if you want it to go into effect? Yeah, I would recommend that. It's kind of a no quite frankly. It should be in effect sooner rather than later. Yeah. All right. So I will move to suspend the three reading rule. Can I have a second on that? Formal second. Any discussion on that? Why would we suspend? I mean what's the urgency? Because next month we will have no in two weeks. In two weeks, we'll decide whether we have the if there's no agenda on those meetings, we can have them or not have them. It's not necessary to do it, but we've already put it into motion. So, I think that's kind of

1:30:31 – 1:31:13Speaker 1

one of these days someone from the public's going to have some comments on some stuff though, and I always want to make sure that they have that opportunity. So, fair enough. One person. Yeah. Any other discussion? This is to This is to suspend. To suspend. Yes. Yes. Foreman. Yes. I mean, I'm sorry. Shaft, yes. Foreman, yes. McClean, no. Carol, yes. McCreary, yes. And Phillips, yes.

1:31:09 – 1:31:51Speaker 1

So, now we need a motion to pass it. I move to adopt ordinance 2026-8. Second. Any discussion on that? I have a quick question. So, we're stating minimum of one meeting per month. The only reason a meeting would be canceled if there's no agenda. Yes. So, but if if somebody still wants to come with a question for a specific committee, if we know that that there somebody from the public wants to come, then we have to have a meeting, right? But if they don't like sometimes we have people who kind of show they can they they can ask their question during counsel or that's what I was I want to make sure that that's

1:31:49 – 1:32:27Speaker 1

I I never want to if somebody comes to one of these meet I never want to not let somebody talk they should always whether it's we've let people talk that never even signed in before right that don't even in the past if you weren't on the agenda they wouldn't let you speak in council but we have not done that we we will and we should never do that I'm just making sure you're being clear I'm asking for clarity Yes. Okay. I wasn't here the last. Yeah. Yeah. You were stuck in a snowstorm. I was stuck on the other side of a snowstorm. So now we need to vote on that. Okay. I I have another question. Um so if someone had an issue,

1:32:26 – 1:33:09Speaker 1

um they would reach out to the village administrator to get that on the agenda. That's one avenue of doing that. Or reach out to you or one of us. Reach out to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and and but but it's like I think what my thought and process in this is if we've never not let somebody talk here. If you come to council if you come to council meeting and it's and say we didn't have a service meeting and it was a service situation they'd talk in council. It's going to get moved to council anyways. That's why some of those it's better to talk about them in council because then we can actually do something about it. We can't Well, we talked about it. Now we got to move it up to council. Let's talk about it and get it finished is all is my thought process there.

1:33:08 – 1:33:32Speaker 1

But it could also work the other way. The council sends it to rules and then it comes back to council and then it's this long and it definitely process. Yeah. Okay. Yep. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Yeah. Yeah. No worries. Okay. Schaer. Yes. Foreman. Yes. McClean, yes. Carol, yes. McCree, yes. Phillips,

1:33:30 – 1:34:14Speaker 1

yes. Okay, we're going to go right into the second reading of ordinance 2604. Mr. Foreman is a sponsor. Ordinance to reszone Baltimore Somerset Road, a 4.733 acre parcel known as numbers 0240257620 and 5 Baltimore Somerset Road A uh 2.995 acre parcel known as parcel number 0240257700 to a suburban f single family residential district R2. Care to elaborate on that?

1:34:12 – 1:34:56Speaker 1

Yeah, this is uh the one that's owned by uh Roger Woods uh where he was wanting to divide it up a little differently. And I this one can just stay on in there for a third. Yes. Actually, Brian, we need that on the on the agenda for next time so we can talk about that what that ordinance. It it's on the agenda, but I mean we can discuss it right now. So what see I'm he asked for R3 and I think planning and zoning game March that's correct. Okay. Yeah. Well then we don't need I forgot planning and zoning already. I wasn't at that planning planning and zoning. He was asking for R3 and he got dumped on R3

1:34:53 – 1:35:34Speaker 1

and taken to R2. Got um he is going to need a plat plan and he's going to need to figure out where the storm water's going to go. Yeah. And that's that all has to be done before he does anything. Right. Yes. Okay. Everybody builds a new house has to put a sidewalk in. Let's move on. Ordinance 20 2605 ordinance approving pre-annexation agreement with Cherry Lane LCC and the declaration of emergency. Mr. Foreman, you are the sponsor of that. Okay. I believe this is the Lona property, isn't it? Was it annex?

1:35:32 – 1:35:44Speaker 1

Yes, it is. Go to a third. And this one has emergency language just so it can take effect immediately. It is not does not need to no move forward. So it's just going to stay on the agenda for a third reading.

1:35:42 – 1:36:26Speaker 1

And I will tell you the situation there is and I'm just letting you and Jamie know if we did not um annex that the other village was going to. That's why we are. So okay. Now we're going to the third reading. Ordinance 20263, an ordinance to approve the final plat for Liberty Ridge section one and the declaration of an emergency. Miss McCury, you were the sponsor of that. That is to what we were shown tonight was basically the final plaque. Any discussion on that? I think we're asking if we can adopt this in a declaration of an emergency so that it will take effect immediately.

1:36:24 – 1:37:08Speaker 1

And this is the third reading. Yeah. Yeah. It's already Yeah. Oh, this is a third reading on this. So, you make a motion to adopt. Moves to adopt that. Ordinance 20263. Foreman seconds. Any discussion on that? Can we get a vote on that, please? Brian McCreary, yes. Foreman, yes. Phillips, no. Schoffner, no. Carol, yes. McClean, no. Three to three. Yes. Mayor vote. Okay. Table ordinance. Uh, ordinance 2601 and ordinance approve.

1:37:06 – 1:37:23Speaker 1

That's table. Yeah, this is table. We're going to have to vote to unt. Oh, gotcha. I would go ahead and unt first and then Yeah. form makes a motion to untable ordinance 2026-1.

1:37:19 – 1:37:56Speaker 1

Carry seconds. Ordinance 26 202601, an ordinance approving the vacation of the final plaque of Sleepy Hollow subdivision, a 54 55.448 acre property currently known as parcel number 024 0251 1440. Uh Miss Mccur is the uh sponsor. That is just the ordinance to say that it's not going to be called Sleepy Hollow.

1:37:52 – 1:38:37Speaker 1

This is a motion to unt Okay. Foreman, yes. McCreary, yes. Carol, yes. Phillips, yes. McClean, no. And Schoffner, yes. That's the unt and this bill is or this ordinance is to un it's not going to be called sleep vacate the plat yes

1:38:34 – 1:39:12Speaker 1

it's irrelevant now because the the new plat's been approved yes but someone needs to make a motion yes so with all that I'm moving to approve Ordinance 202601 forman seconds. Any discussion on that? Can I get a roll call on that please? Brian. Uh Mccuri, yes. Foreman, yes. Carol, yes. Phillips, no. Clean, no. Schaer, yes. Four to three or four to two. Yep. Yeah. Four to three.

1:39:10 – 1:39:55Speaker 1

All right. So, we're going to go right into old business. Does anybody have any old business? If not, how about new business? Anybody got any new business? I've got some new business, but I'd like to do the executive session. Okay, that's fine. Um, any of the visitors like to say anything? Yes, sir. Where is Sleepy Hollow? It's on Basel Western Road. No. No, Basel Northern Road. Most of the tracks on Basel Road up the hill behind Basel Lumber. So, we're vacating the same thing.

1:39:52 – 1:40:21Speaker 1

It just used to be called Sleepy Hollow. Now, it's called Liberty Ridge. No more Headless Horseman Way. Okay. So, if no other visitors have anything, um, we're actually going to go into executive session, right? Yeah. You'll have to excuse the visit. Yeah.

1:40:25 – 1:40:48Speaker 1

Yeah. We're just going to come back to have last call. Maybe we'll see some of you back here after executive session. Yes. Just depends.

1:40:55Speaker 1

We're entering executive session at 7:38.

2:12:51 – 2:13:32Speaker 1

Yeah. Okay. So, does anybody have anything else? I want to get the information from him first. We're reentering at 8. What time is it? 8:11. 811. Okay. Does anybody have any other thing that they would like to talk about? Yes. Yes. If not, may do I have a motion to adjurnn. I move to adjurnn. Foreman seconds. All in favor? I. Okay. Thank you guys. Texting my wife. So I'll see you meeting at 81

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