Town Council - Regular Meeting

Call the meeting to order. Please rise for the pledge.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you.

I'll let the record reflect. Councilman Calhoun is absent tonight. All other council members are present. Pastor Brown, would you like to start us off tonight?

Heavenly Father, we give you thanks for another day, and thank you, Father, for that town, and thank you for the council members you've known and served. I want to ask for your blessings as we continue the remodeling project at the library. We just ask that you do a perfect and well. Also, Father, continue to grant wisdom and insight to all those involved in preparing for your festival this year. Finally, Father, I just ask for your blessings on this week. I pray to God in Christ.

Amen.

Amen. Thank you. all right we've got uh meeting minutes from july 13th a regular council meeting i'll make a motion that we approve those minutes second all in favor aye aye and then from our special meeting on july 17th i make a motion we approve those minutes i'm sorry

All in favor? Aye. All right.

Let's see. Proceed with reports starting with John. Thank you.

Sorry about the water plan. Daily rounds, testing, monitoring, collecting, usage have all been recorded there at the water plant. Our production from our wells so far in the month of July has been 1,385,210. Our daily average usage for the water plant is around 51,304. The water filter has been back washed twice in July, July 15th and July 27th, which is today. Our back tees have been collected for the month of July. They came back absent, which is a good thing. Hoosier Environmental brought us our wellhead protection plan for the next five years. It has been completely signed off. by IDEM and is completed. I gave you a little map of the wellhead protection there. Shows the possible problems we could have off 19 and the railroad. And you never know when a semi tips over. And that's some of what's in the wellhead protection plan besides everybody's name, information, procedures of call to clean up spills that have happened around it. But in case you weren't aware of how big it is, it's a pretty big area.

What is number two there? Is that a guess?

Number two, I believe is, I'm not sure about that, but I believe it's the county stone grain.

Oh, okay.

Gotcha. Yep. That sound right?

Yep.

That probably is Miller Carson. It's not exactly... As it runs, I don't think, but that makes sense. It does go across that field there on the other side of the tracks. All right, thanks. I didn't say okay. Close enough.

Something I'd like to bring for a little food of thought, I believe you should think about charging a fee for a water audit. It does take up a considerable amount of time printing everything off and actually collecting all the information off the media. I DON'T KNOW, MOST TOWNS AND CITIES CHARGE $150 OR MORE FOR THAT SERVICE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ROLL AROUND IN YOUR HEAD.

WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL?

IT'S A WATER AUDIT. BASICALLY, WE HOOK UP through it for consumption. And then we upload it to our computers and we print off basically a grid showing how the usage has. And when they have continuous usage, a little red flag comes up. Next on the agenda, we were looking at that trailer on County Line Road here. We found out it was a black, thin-walled PEX line, the old farmer irrigation lines. I think it was in the ordinance. IT IS NOT HOOKED UP TO OUR WATER MAIN ANYMORE SINCE THEY PUT THE NEW WATER MAIN RUNNING DOWN CONNING LINE ROAD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. DAVID CASTLE IS HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU. HE'S GOT BIG PLANS ON LEADING UP SHIP PLACE. I BELIEVE WE NEED TO irrigation line once it starts.

Yeah, I've seen more failures than I can count.

I think he has some questions for you on that too, but I know that's later on. As for wastewater, daily rounds have been done collecting, sampling, influent and affluent. our daily average youth yeah influent use for july so far is a hundred and twelve thousand four hundred and eighty seven which that's a lot better than three months ago when i started it was 167 000 the average so i don't know putting the backflow preventers in i don't know finding that leak up there with the the backwash station helped but then again you know um this month we That's unbelievable for July, in my opinion. Plus, we just got more today. Started discharge on the wastewater plant on the 19th of July. We have a lot of high ammonia due to the heat. A lot of duckweed out there. A lot of organics are floating up from the heat, creating methane gas floating up. anything like that. It's just every discharge I've done here so far has been different. I don't know if that's the going thing, but just thought I'd bring that out to your attention. There's a lot of stuff going on out there with this discharge. I've been driving in at night checking on it, making sure that we're staying lower yeah perky's heating cooling will be here august 4th and 5th to put that mini split and the building out there um and uh art estimate sheets need to be signed or they won't come in here and they won't give me a date to come in here and actually you have to have a copy of those okay should be three manholes three manholes that were paying for one manhole that they forgot and three manholes are repairs

Let's see. Do they need the one that are repairs? The ones that are no cost don't need a signature, do they? That was on a separate sheet, I think. Oh, missed manholes. That was zero. Warranty repair. Okay, I got you. It's all right. I guess needed a signature before. I'll give this back to you because it looks like they need an email to send stuff to.

Do we have a timeline on the sewer drains being fixed? Right out here, the two out here in front we talked about.

That's a street thing. We did put the French drain in. I saw that.

Yeah, there's concrete around it, I think. I think so.

All right.

Well, hopefully it makes a difference. I think that was worth trying. Okay. Anybody have any questions for John? Sure. Yeah, I'll repeat that again. So what Mr. Nikolaev is bringing up is that whenever somebody calls to request an audit because they think their bill is too high, that's usually the first thing they do is call us instead of looking around their house to see if there's a problem. And so they'll call us before they do any investigating at home. And he's saying, well, that takes considerable time. Should we consider maybe... MAYBE TRYING TO GET THAT TIME COVERED. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL ENTERTAIN OR NOT, BUT HE'S RIGHT. IT DOES TAKE TIME BECAUSE HE HAS TO GO OUT TO THAT METER AND READ THE DATA OFF OF IT AND THEN GO BACK AND INTERPRET IT ALL ON THE COMPUTER AND THEN PRINT ALL OF THAT OFF. AND THEN WE HAVE TO GET IT BACK TO THE FIRST.

I'VE SHUT EVERYTHING OFF IN MY HOUSE. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FIND OUT IS PULL IT LITTLE.

No, that's and that's the appropriate time. I think I think we have seen though some You know More Maybe people that have us on that level of investigations at their house like you would and So it's kind of a waste of time because we confirm that they have a leak in the lace Yes

We can do that just by looking at it. What he's talking about is a full audit where we print off a report of every single ounce of water that goes through your meter.

nothing's to say that there will be any change anyway, but he's, sure. yeah we can tell that inside the pit without doing this audit the audit is the thing that takes considerable time opening the lid and us looking at the meter takes five minutes so that's not a concern at all and the meter will tell us if we have that was just a suggestion yeah I couldn't go along with that as a council member to charge for that fee

We're a utility.

Well, I'm not saying it's going to pass. No, no. Sure. But that's an idea.

Yeah. But, you know, as a utility, you know, we have to figure out what's going on. You know, there's 100 different scenarios. I can't see that. Personally, I can't see that being there.

An audit accounts for every ounce of water that goes through that meter every minute. So it's a big long list and it's labor intensive and it's big reports.

It can help you narrow down the source of the leak. Oh, this might be your water softener or this might be your toilet because of how it's, you know, it'll show us it ran for this long, this much water. So it's a useful tool for sure. But there's a time when, there's times when people request it that don't seem like it's very useful and it's kind of a waste of time, so.

No, no, don't be, you deserve to know the information.

You can go ahead. I'll just repeat the question. And then as we progress through this, when we get into more of the public comment sections too, if we can do the microphone, that'd be good.

But go ahead.

How often do people request audits? What do you think? A couple a week or?

Probably, I don't know, maybe about four or five a month.

Okay. Yeah, probably depends on the month, but yeah. handful a month something like that but as you said it can be considerable amount of time you start adding those up yeah fair enough um okay anything else for john uh no luke tonight uh jennifer do you have anything for us the only thing i have is i am working on our community crossing close out and you have my utility report and that's it for me too No attorney tonight. Rick is also not here. So we are done with reports. We'll move on to old business. We've got an ordinance we had introduced at the last meeting. That's ordinance 2026-07-01. It has been available since our last meeting for public review. It's an ordinance amending chapter 150 of our ordinance book, which is the plan commission section. And that's just updating to current state statute. MEMBERSHIP OF THE PLAIN COMMISSION SO I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT OUR BOOK DID SAY BUT IT HAD SOME THINGS LIKE FOR EXAMPLE OUT OF TOWN MEMBERS WOULD BE APPOINTED BY A JUDGE A HAMILTON COUNTY JUDGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND Just things like that that needed to be updated. I don't think it had been updated since 1974, if I recall correctly. Anyway, I will just highlight this. I'm not going to read the whole thing since it has been available for review. But the Plain Commission shall consist of seven members. The Town Council shall appoint three members. These members must be elected or appointed town officials or employees in the town government. The Town Council President shall appoint four citizen members. No more than two of the civilian members MAY BE OF THE SAME POLITICAL PARTY AND THEN THE PLAN COMMISSION ITSELF WILL APPOINT TWO ADDITIONAL CITIZEN MEMBERS AT LEAST ONE OF WHICH WILL RESIDE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR NOT BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S CHANGING TO Or that's what it currently said, I'm sorry. It's changing two, three members, four citizen members with a four-year term, and then it also lays out staggered terms for everyone else. Anyway, any discussion on this from the council? I have none. I have none. Is there a motion to adopt ordinance number 2026-07-01?

I move that we adopt the amended. No, 2nd language. All right. Uh, I'll trade you.

So.

that made its way all the way down. Okay, we have an ordinance to introduce tonight. That's ordinance 2026-07-02, an ordinance establishing a parks and recreation board. This will be available for public review, but we're finally moving in the right direction with the park board here. So this will be available till our next council member or council meeting for public review. And lastly, our planning commission just met IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THIS COUNCIL MEETING AND WE HAVE A PROPOSAL FROM THE PLANNED COMMISSION IT'S PROPOSAL NUMBER 7-27-26 WHICH IS A PROPOSAL OF THE TOWN OF ATLANTA PLANNED COMMISSION AMENDING THE ORDINANCE CONTROLLING MAXIMUM FENCE HEIGHTS AND WHAT THE PLANNED COMMISSION HAVE SUGGESTED BASED ON A DISCUSSION WITH OUR BUILDING COMMISSIONER IS THAT BECAUSE COMMON FENCE SIZING Seems to include a lot of fences panels that are 4 foot in height instead of 42 inches in height or as our book said, 36 inches in height. That we amend that ordinance. The zoning ordinance to allow for a 4 foot front fence. So we have ordinance number 2026 dash 07 dash 03. Ordinance of the Town Council of the Town of Atlanta, Indiana to amend the fence fences and wall heights Whereas the Town Council of the Town of Atlanta Has adopted zoning ordinances for the town whereas the Town Council Excuse me, the Town Planning Commission has certified an amending to zoning ordinance 7.21 and favorably recommended said amendment Whereas the Atlanta Town Council has reviewed and considered the plan commission's recommendation and has considered how the amendment of the zoning ordinance would affect the health, safety and convenience of the people of Atlanta, Indiana. Now, therefore, be it ordained. By the town council of the town of Atlanta, Indiana as follows. Zoning ordinance 7.21. F in dash 0, 1 C is amended to read as follows. NOT BE GREATER THAN SIX FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE SIDE YARD AND REAR YARD OR GREATER THAN FOUR FEET IN HEIGHT FOR THE FRONT YARD ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF ATLANTA INDIANA THIS DAY SO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO IF WE WOULD LIKE TO PASS THIS TONIGHT IS WE WOULD NEED TO SUSPEND OUR RULES WE'D NEED A VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND THEN WE'D NEED A VOTE ON THE ORGANIZATION I VOTE THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES All in favor? Aye. We have a motion to approve ordinance number 2026-07-03. Move that we approve this. All in favor? Aye. Thank you.

Okay.

All right. Before we talk to Mr. Castle, any other old business from the Council?

Two things to bring up on the library that need to be decided. In talking with Doyle today, all of the light switches are currently in that Reception box as soon as you walk in the door. And regardless of whether we move that box over to. The side where the table is going to be, he would like to move them and put them in the wall next to. The office, so that everything's in 1 central location and you. Jennifer, and he's not going to have to walk over there and flip the switches. Underneath that case, is there some kind of a light.

But move them inside the office.

Well, on the wall, wherever all the rest of the light switches are going to go.

Is there some kind of light that would be accessible inside the door so you at least have light going in? I can talk to him about that. That would be my only concern is having, if you had to go over there at night, walking all the way through the building to get to the light switch. I'll figure that out.

He... thought it would be much better to have all the lights, which is in a centralized location.

Yeah, and then you can control the main portion of the main level from inside the office. I think that makes sense.

I'll go talk to him tomorrow. I told him I would text him tonight, but I'll go over there in the morning and talk to him. The second thing is I would like to see us repurpose that, I don't know, we know what you call it, the entranceway reception area that used to be in there for the library and put it as the podium in front of the Yeah Conference table when we get it over there, so we would just keep the same thing We have turn it around and move it over to the other side of the room. I think that'd be nice Okay, so I'm gonna tell him to he can go ahead and take that out and set it over there on the other side So it's not in his way. I know it's been moving around it so I Think that'd be neat

I'm all for keeping as many things that are over there as we can. I think that the counter is really neat.

I'll also ask him about what type of floor he thinks that is, whether it's oak or pine, so we can move on.

Sure. Mr. Castle.

Sir, good evening. As you guys already heard, the water line is going to my father's meter. is not sufficient in order to hook it back up so i would like to request if we could get a new water line hooked up to the meter so that way we can get water back to my father's property i would also like to know if i could be sent the policy or whatever is regarding hooking up to this city sewer line so i can start planning for that and getting that in the works um the line that's run to that meter is not anything that the town would have ever used as far as i'm

I don't know when that service was put in, but it's definitely not anything that's serviceable now, I would say. Do you think it's three-quarter thin wall?

Yeah, the old farmer's irrigation line. Yeah, yeah. I guess when Water Main was put in on the south side of the road, Andy said not to hook it back up because the place was abandoned.

also that thin wall I wouldn't want to hook that stuff back up either because it's we had had some discussion about this and about what it would look like from potentially a fee standpoint and what we could potentially waive and what we couldn't but I don't know how to approach this to be honest with you I think if somebody were becoming a new customer where there wasn't service before, there would be a very clear path. And this is not dissimilar from that scenario, except that at some point in the past there was service there.

Water service.

Correct.

Never sugar service.

Right. Well, I would agree with you if it was a new tap or if my father said, hey, I don't want water anymore. But the water service that he had on the property was cut by the town when they did the new water line. Was he ever a customer? My father, yes, and my grandfather beforehand.

Okay. I think part of the concern is that if something is disused for a long time, I don't know that we can – it's our duty to indefinitely maintain – the potential for service in the future. I mean, the gas company will do that. If you don't use your gas for so long and you're not a paying customer, they will dig up your service and retire it. And especially with that thin wall, that's a potential leak point. So when they're digging up and putting in a new main and they see thin wall, and then it's like, well, this hasn't been used in however many years, it's an easy choice at that moment to say, we're not hooking this back up.

I can understand that the water wasn't in service, but they pulled the meter and didn't reconnect it. It wasn't like it was disconnected beforehand. So, I can understand your position and like I said, if it wasn't in service before they put in the new line. I can understand having to pay a tap fee, but it wasn't service and there was a meter before that.

Well, that's what we had talked about too, is that we've got tap fees, which is the physical connection and we've got availability fees, which is like your connections. long-term impact on our system that's trying to quantify that and that's the more costly of the two typically but and that the tap fee now is exact cost so it varies from connection to connection yeah but we've already had that connection discussion of for sure the availability fee we would waive in this situation but again i'm kind of at a loss from where else to go with this i don't know if I don't know where our responsibility starts and stops.

Well, I know there's never been sewage to that property. Correct. Never has. So, and that's probably going to be the greater expense of the two.

And we're aware of that, yes.

Yeah, you know, because I haven't personally looked at the print, but I know... I believe there's a manhole located.

It's like a half a block.

Yeah, it's a half a block south. So that's going to be the biggest expense of the two.

Correct. We're aware of that.

And then obviously boring under 296th Street and making a tap and, you know, to get water.

be the lesser of the two but still there'll be some expense involved in that so well i think we did have the discussions i can't remember if it was in that special meeting on friday or if it was on the last meeting on monday i think it was on friday and it was brought up that we would waive the availability fee right because they're because they already had a connection and this is just an upgrade to the line which in anyone else we would charge so

The physical line is the part that I don't know what to do. I don't know if that's the town. I don't know if it's reasonable for that to be the town's responsibility.

No, I don't.

I think it's the same as the fees attached, you know. The availability fee definitely shouldn't be.

Yeah, that's a non-issue. Well, how much is the, it would be the cost of boring and putting that in, right? Right. That would be the actual cost of doing the work.

John, how far off the road on the other side is the meter pit? Is it pretty close?

Yeah, it's pretty close to the road.

So are we talking like a 30-foot bore or something like that?

Well, the main's about three foot off the road on the south side of the water. So, not a significant really recall, but I think it's pretty close to 8 to 10 feet.

Well, I mean, because he had service there in the past. With water, I mean, would it make sense to split the cost of the boring and the line with him? To say, okay, we're going to upgrade you. We'll put it in, but I mean, it's either that or we pay for it. It's either half. It's either go halfers or. where we put it in. I don't think all of the money should fall on him for that because there was service there at one point. So this is more of an upgrade and reconnecting him.

Yeah, that thin wall pipe was, I mean, like I said, I wouldn't have reconnected that either.

No, I'm not saying it should have been. I'm just saying that... Sure.

And that's something the town, again, would have never... That was something that whoever they were putting the service in for would have bought. Because the town never used that stuff.

So how much are we talking to bore that out?

I mean, the pipe itself, we've got rolls of it. We have the material. We've got all the fittings. We've got all that stuff. It's just a matter of the bore.

What do we think we're looking at for a boring charge for 50 feet?

We can get a... Yeah, let's get some estimates so we can make an educated determination. Yes, sure.

Exactly. You want to get a...

the price from somebody and miss bills boards i know that yeah if you're him or daystar or something maybe when are you looking at i mean is this you have a timeline on this or yeah

Well, no, because my father has been trying to battle about 10 years, the previous superintendent, and that's when I stepped in and got a power of attorney. So right now, it's just trying to get him water and then work on getting him sewers so we can replace the trailer, fix up the area so they can eventually move in there. That's my goal.

So if we answer you next meeting, it's absolutely fine. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, I think we ought to get an estimate on the cost.

I think there's room for collaboration here. Again, my big concern was I don't know that we, you've heard my argument. But I'm also not, I don't think it's unreasonable to try to collaborate a little bit too. Okay, any other business? Let's move on to new business. We've got a utility adjust for 240 South Indiana in the amount of $129.63. And it looks like there was a leak in the yard, I guess.

They brought a new line to their house.

So he replaced his water line?

Yes. Thank you.

You're welcome. Thank you. And that's been verified repair by Mr. Nikolaev. So is it eligible for adjust? I move that we approve this utility adjustment.

Second. Second.

All in favor? Aye. Aye.

i'll send it this way okay all right uh our new business uh i've i've kind of given you all a proposed salary we never updated it after we hired mr nikolov here nor did we uh update it after uh making with the street commissioner and uh in addition to reflecting Our salaries are more compensation. It also our salary work. This is what this establishes job descriptions and roles and responsibilities. And I think that, uh. That's something that we ought to prioritize. Um, I had sent out some language a couple of months ago for y'all to review and didn't really get any feedback on it because we had a lot else going on at the time. But I think it's something that we need to, uh. to get in place so it reflects where we're at right now and kind of remove any, if there's any confusion among people working for us or people in the community as to who does what. It's on paper.

Can we have, can they have a couple of weeks to review this? Yeah, I think so.

I don't even have the right numbers plugged into it. I do think I have very reasonable language in there, but obviously I SO PLEASE GIVE FEEDBACK AND I'LL GET YOU A COPY AS WELL SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON IT AT THE NEXT MEETING IF WE CAN. IT'S A LOOSE END WE HAVEN'T TIED UP.

I DO.

HERE I ALMOST DENIED HER. uh now open up for public comment and i'm terrible about this but we continue to try to navigate the world of online streaming of meetings so if we can utilize the microphone please yes thank you sir

Back on the cat subject.

Has the town council made an agreement with Community Cats of Hamilton County to have a cat colony on South Broadway? Never. Have they made an agreement with Atlanta Mobile Home Park to have a cat colony? No, sir. Okay. Atlanta Mobile Home Park said absolutely not. No cat colony allowed on our property. My son has talked to them today and informed them that he will be suing them for damages to his property. They are... She's reached out to the owner. She's requesting that Lee and Amanda be removed from the property immediately. The problem I have, the cat colony is the people that run it are in Fishers, Indiana. So why are they dumping cats in Atlanta, Indiana? That's a very, very good question. Why aren't they dumping them in Fishers? Luke called me today. He talked to the state. They said they can't do anything because it's a cat colony. The other situation is my son is still trapping and he's still catching cats. Who do we call? to remove the cats. I mean, they're on his property. They're destroying it. He's got live traps for possums. He's catching cats. Who do we call if we remove them and we just dump them, kill them? It's a level six felony. We're not gonna do that, right? The animal control says it's on Luke as the ordinance officer to remove the cats. Luke's afraid to remove the cat because this lady is threatened. And then felony charges against him if he removes them. Okay. Somewhere, somehow, somebody's got to do something with the cats. Correct. I mean, we're up to, what, almost $1,000 in damages just on his furniture.

If we could step backwards just a minute, are you saying that there is some sort of recognized cat colony? Yeah, in the state of Indiana.

And that's supposedly community cats of Hamilton County deemed out of cat colony. It means that they're just feral cats and it's a colony and you can't touch them. But my problem is, if you read the law on it, they have to be fixed. Them cats are dumping kittens all over our property. So that tells me they're not fixed. I mean, there's no way. And if you look at the cats, the majority of them look sick. Another thing is, is Luke could walk down there and say, I want to see vaccination records of every cat out here because they have to have record of it. They don't. Yeah. My dog has to have a rabies tag and they have to have rabies. They have to have everything. Now I know our town organ says cats have to be on a leash. Or on your property?

Correct.

So how would a cat colony override that?

I don't know how somebody could officially establish a cat colony without the approval of the municipality.

Right, because it says you have to pay off a permit fee, right? Some towns will require, like I say, Noblesville will say, I want a $25 permit fee. And then we'll give you the right to have a cat colony.

I think we're at the point here where we probably get our attorneys involved in this.

Yeah, I was hoping he was here tonight.

Because, I mean, it's just like... And we talked about this last week. Mr. Nikolaev and I were down there last week, or earlier. No, it was last week. Because they had a sewer question, and we ended up talking about this issue. And I didn't realize that we had the level of a problem down there. But it is very bad. And...

They're everywhere. I mean, if I had to guess, I'm going to say 40 to 50 cats that just everywhere. Horrible. And I walk out of my building, I walk out in my yard, and there's cat poop everywhere. That's all you smell. It's not the cat's fault, but I mean.

When you say trailer park, in my mind, it's a specific trailer. Is it the one on South Indiana? 600 South Indiana. But aren't you off of Broadway, though? Is that the same trailer park? It's the same trailer park. It's the same, both sides of that?

Okay. There is rules on trailer parks and campgrounds that they allow. They call it T&R, trap, neuter, release. But they got to stay on the trailer park property. The minute they cross that street, the town of Atlanta is not a trailer park. They need to keep them on their property.

Right.

You know, I mean, something's got to be done with them.

I agree.

It's out of hand. And the other thing that I would like to bring up tonight is the sewer. It needs to be looked at why I'm responsible to dig a street up to fix a sewer line to the main that's on the opposite side of the street as me. I think that's a little excessive that I should pay, I mean, every other town out there, I don't know every town, but the majority of towns out there, you're responsible to your property. The town's responsible for what's under the street and I think that's something that should be looked at in the future of. If we have an issue, who's responsible to cut that road? So there's an issue under the road. Yeah. More likely that's what's going to be the problem. I mean, we busted it open as far as. There was some roots, but. I'm going to dig it up on my side, and I'm going to have the guy come back out and scope it. If that's collapsed under that street, why should I pay that kind of money to dig up a sewer that's been there for, what, since the 70s, 60s, this old clay tile that's collapsed? I mean, how can you expect a resident to pay, I mean, you're looking at 30, 40 grand to spend to replace a sewer that should have been updated already.

Do we know where his tap's located? I believe so. I think it's on the TAP map. But it crosses Broadway. Here's the thing, though. There wasn't sewer in the alley behind originally, and there is now.

Have you figured out if it comes down that far? There is a manhole behind Alan Waldron's garage. There's a manhole right there. But I don't know if they dead-ended it there or if they came all the way down to the street. I don't know.

I've got to verify it, but as I recall, we made an extension when we did our...

If it comes down to that and I can dig through the back and tie in, then it's a non-issue. But if I have to cut the street and all that, you can't expect a homeowner to repair over there or something like that. I don't know. You said that ordinance. How long ago was that ordinance put in?

It wasn't updated all that long. I was on the council that it was updated. But the town owns mains. The town doesn't own lateral lines.

Right. And there was a there should be a name down both sides of the street then that we tie into. Yeah. I mean, I just I think that's excessive. Because, I mean, I'm telling you, if I have to dig it up, I'm saw cutting it, I'm digging it, and I'm putting it back. I'm not paying $40,000 to have somebody do it.

I'm just not doing it. I mean, I can do the work. Yeah, and I think that's why the town has street cut permits and design standards for roads and stuff is so that work can be done. Right. But I get what you're saying. And if there's a way to avoid that. Right.

I mean, I know my son, he goes, well, it's all the trucks that drive through here. I say, yeah, I drive my semi into town. I have less ground pressure than a pickup truck does, but the trash truck drives through town loaded, and I haul for waste management. When the trash trucks come to the landfill, they're pushing 100,000 pounds. So school buses, I mean, you know, it's just, that stuff's all old. It's all out of date. I mean, I'm hoping that you find that the sewer line goes down there, or I can at least dig out back and turn and go to the manhole. But then it comes to the thing, when I get to the main, who connects it? Right. I can't. I'm not allowed by law to connect to the main. It's got to be the town that does it.

We'll do some research on both fronts. I mean, hopefully right now I got him working, but eventually it's going to become an issue. I know it is. Sure.

You know, and then in the near future, I got to do something.

Okay. That's all I got. Well, we'll do some research on the one, but the cat deal, there's no world where that's acceptable.

Supposedly, the cat colony lady will be here at the town hall at 11 a.m. on Wednesday for a meeting.

With who?

with Luke, because she is threatening and he's she's coming in here to me. I don't know if somebody from the town council should probably be here and be like, see if we're not agreeing to see if maybe our attorneys be here.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because I know Luke told me that he asked me if I wanted to come Trevor if he wanted to come because he has the issue. Trevor did text the trailer park manager and said, Hey, there is a meeting at 11am on Wednesday for this. So you might want to attend and let them know it's not allowed on your property. Because Amanda put all over Facebook that she feeds them, she's this and that, and now all of a sudden she's like, oh, no, no, no, that's not mine. That's not my colony because they want them out. They're like, we're done. No more. Sure. So, I mean, I don't know. Okay. We'll see what we can do about it. I'm pretty sure he said it's 11 a.m. Wednesday. She's supposed to come up here and meet. Okay. Well, again, it's indefensible.

It really is. So we'll do whatever we can. All right. Cool. Thank you. Sorry. Oh, my goodness.

know who accepts responsibility, so I know who to sue. Because he is filing small claims for him. I mean, that's a thousand bucks. You might as well get your money back.

That's horrible.

I mean, he told the mobile home park as soon as he told them that he's got a lawyer and he's going to... Oh, no, no, we're not agreeing to that. To them having that, but...

Well, I can tell you right now that the town never has and never will approve anything like that. I didn't think so. We're going to do what we can to get rid of it. I appreciate it.

You're welcome. Do you know who, what was the name that approved it in the first place? Hamilton County.

It's Hamilton. Community.

I wrote down Community Cat Colony of Hamilton County. Community Cats of Hamilton County. Community Cats. Yep.

Because I know when he first tried to trap a possible cop cat, the first day he let it go. The second day it was hissing. So he's like, he called Animal Control.

Animal Control said, if it hisses, don't touch it.

He said, I'm going to get you in contact with Arcadia. I'm going to call Arcadia police. They said, take it to the wherever 24 hours nobody claims it I had somewhere to take it but now all of a sudden I think he's nervous because that lady sure right basically and how long does it take to capture 50 cats so oh man we're gonna put like 10 traps out I mean I think it'll be pretty quick yeah they're all in a pretty small trap out they go in I mean I mean, they're crowding everywhere.

I can't stand it. Like you said, furniture, porch furniture. I don't want to go sit on that. I mean, there's nothing you can do.

I mean, it's just, it subs through. It gets in the foam. It's in the thymus. It's like Luke, when he walked in the backyard to get the trout, he's like, holy cow, what is that smell? Trevor's like, that's cat urine. That's all you smell. Especially like now that it's raining. I mean, it just brings it up.

Weaponized.

I know it's a dog wall, but at this point, my dog's a dog colony. I'm just going to tear them loose and let them have that because, I mean, they're tearing our curtains down trying to get to the cats.

Yeah.

It's ridiculous.

No, there's language somewhere in our ordinance book. I don't remember where it says it, but language that sticks out in my mind of something like interfering with the peaceful enjoyment of something. And it sounds like that fits that language perfectly.

ain't right all right we'll do what we can um anything else yes ma'am of course good uh jennifer could you give a report on how much interest we made on the park money just because a lot of people don't know that's what's going on okay so for the month of june it was um a little over thirteen hundred dollars so for the year it's um almost 67 or 6600 so the total the total with the cd and the cell of the ball diamond the total is 504 799.31 okay thank you and also when are we going to get decals on the town trucks i've been asked i was thinking about that earlier

I want it to be that. I don't have a problem with that. I don't know if we have a digital version of that that could be expanded that much, or if not, if a sign guy could make that happen for us. I bet he could. And I don't even want, you know, there's a color version out there on our festival sign. I'm not even saying color. I think just black and white. Our Main Street logo is super cool. We could do that and then maybe have the website on there. Atlanta Utilities and then atlanta.in.gov.

So why move that we proceed with that?

Aren't there stickers on there now?

There were, and I think the ones got removed from the one truck because it was getting paint work done, and then the other one had a clear protective film over it that started peeling. And I don't know if it could have been salvaged or not, but in any case, the whole thing got taken off.

I haven't talked to... You know what? AJ brought some decals in here not too long ago. I think they might be in charge. Sure. Okay, so it might already be in progress. Yeah.

All right. We'll figure that out and get our trucks labeled again.

People don't know what those trucks are and why they're sitting someplace.

Yeah, pulled up behind your house or something like that. Right, right. Absolutely. Yeah, they need to be labeled. Okay. Any other questions, comments? Well, thank you everybody for coming. Is there a motion to sign our claims in here? I'll make that motion. I'll second bigger.

All right.