Town Council - Regular Meeting

Okay, we're ready. All right, go ahead and call our meeting to order. Aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Let the record reflect that Councilman Johnson is absent tonight. All other council members are present. Uh Pastor Brown, you like to start us off this evening?

Our heavenly father, we give you thanks for another day. We thank you so much, Father, for your faithfulness to this town and this community. All the blessings we've enjoyed over the decades. And Father, couple things I want to specifically ask you for tonight. I know the board, the council is considering putting together a board of directors for the park. I just ask that you might give them the discernment they need to find a the right people for those position. And also, Father, for the library project, I just pray that you'd help them to find the best contractor available for the uh best and most reasonable price for that project. And father, I just continue to ask that you would watch over and guide each council member, especially as they have to make decisions sometimes, pretty important decisions. And we just ask for wisdom for them for that. And finally, just ask for your blessings on this meeting tonight for all these things. We thank you in advance in Jesus name. Amen.

Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Jody. Amen. All right, we have uh three sets of minutes here. Uh the first one's for a public hearing on April 13th. I move that we approve those. Second. All in favor? I I second one is for the council meeting at the same date. Make a motion to approve those. Second. All in favor?

I I finally have count uh earth festival meeting. Same date. Move to approve. I'll second. All

in favor? All right. Okay, we'll proceed with reports starting with John. All right. Well, first of all, in the water department, um it's a little hectic month so far. Uh you know, daily rounds, issuing testing, doing recordings, all that stuff. Uh the daily average of the month of April so far for 26 days is 44,461 month March water report is all completed and has been submitted to IDM. Everything's okay. April's back tea has already been collected and came back absent. Water filter has been backwashed on 410 and today on 427. The chlorine tanks have been delivered up there to the water plant. They were all empty, so we had to reorder. Um that twice. Um Peerless is out there. Peerless Midwest is out there working on well floor right now. Uh everything that they've pulled apart so far is looking in great shape. Uh they came it today and they're taking it back to look at it and then they'll probably be back in the morning to pump onto the wastewater daily rounds and collecting the samples recordings influent and effluent testing. Um our uh NXAX was shipped out and delivered last week sitting at the wastewater facility. So, we can wait for the water to get up to 50° and try to do

a little discharge so we can keep it in there for 30 days. Um, me and Luke worked on the structure out there at um the wastewater plant. It's all roughed in, all black catches put in, ready to start plumbing. Um, chlorine tanks and SO2s were all delivered, fully stocked now at the wastewater plant. Everything's empty out there. Um, I had an idea on the lagoons um that I talked to John at Donahue. Yeah.

Am I saying that right? And uh about putting some baffles and I I gave everybody a picture of it. It probably don't have to be that extent on the baffles, but he was telling me that they actually make a floating baffle with a heavy curtain that will sink down to the bottom and that would give more contact tank and and detention time. So, if we did get air raators, we could take care of that ammonia problem.

Yeah. Let's talk about that for a minute. So, uh, John Berglin, who's an engineer we've worked with in the past, he was at Police Vanderbreak and then he was at Jones and Henry and they did they did some work for us. Uh, anyway, now he's uh vice president of Donna. And if you've ever if any of you remember John, he he really understands the he seems to understand our needs very well and he'll take the time to actually talk through different options and things instead of just designing Sky's the limit project. Anyway, he stopped by the shop when I happened to be there one day and me and John talked with him for probably an hour and a half and uh we talked through several different things. He believes actually uh that we could potentially add some floating air raators and rerate our plant to about 120,000 a day. Um, so that in conjunction with camera work and identifying some of these lateral issues that are in town on private property, we can lower the amount going out there and increase the the rating of the plant that could buy us a ton of time that could get because you know, IDMe is uh since 2006 has been unhappy with uh the amount of that we send out there. There's no problem with our removal. Our removal is typically great. the plant works really well. It's just that rating of 80,000 a day. Uh we exceed that frequently. Um

he did say the baffle if you put these baffles in it would help us raise that in conjunction with some aation and that's we're talking uh a fairly affordable project it sounds like. Uh and then he was suggesting for this camera work and stuff in town that we may not even need to involve an engineer in that. we might be able to just contract that ourselves and that might be something we can cash flow

of just we find somebody that does that kind of work camera work and smoke testing and have them come in and do that. So I think we need to work that direction. Uh I don't we should probably have him come talk to the whole council, but John and I feel very comfortable working with John Berglin uh on on our wastewater issues rather than maybe working with police. We can still continue to work with police because they have treated us well and we're already talking about maybe doing a round two of paving and u it would make sense I think to involve them in that. Um, but I I personally feel very comfortable working with John for Who's he with again? You said

it's called Donahghue and I think he's their vice president. He's one of the owners. If you see where influence and our effluent is on our secondary lagoons there, I think we're short circuiting and that's what's causing us to have so many ammonia problems. Our ammonia rates in our permit are very low. Yeah.

I mean, That's unbelievable how low they are. But uh that's what they're wanting. That's what we have to push for. And I believe some um baffle walls would uh really take care of detention time and contact time with some air raators in there. And that dissolved oxygen really help lower it. So I don't know. I can I'd like to try to set up a meeting probably with uh me and John and maybe another council member with John Berlin, but I think it's also probably beneficial to have him come in council as well. But I think we need to start working on both of those things

sooner rather than later. Um uh Chris, are Pam, are you guys understanding what the short circuit the problem is? The water's coming in here and going straight to a discharge. Okay, it's it's 50 yard 40 yards away. And this would make it settle out, cure, spend much more time in our pond before it's discharged.

And there's ways to mitigate some of that with the way that the plants operate it. But certain times of year, you've just got to get the water out of there. you don't have the time to draw the uh finishing pond down and leave it in the primary and then equalize them and then draw it down again. And given time in both of those to let the treatment take place, um sometimes you just got to get water out of there. Um so anyway, we can't discharge from our north pond, right? Sorry. Go ahead. No, you're fine. Um, that's about all I had to say. This basically is just a picture for food for thought.

Yeah. I just wanted everyone to kind of be aware of what's going on. That's why it's so hard to hold the numbers low. Sure. I think we're short circuiting and not much we can do about it, you know.

Do you want to talk for a minute about uh what we had at the lift station here? I've seen we got these here. I'll get that. We have two estimates from IPW because of our lift station. Uh since I've started, I've always been opening up the hatches and I'm seeing the water in the bottom swirling around after the pipes turn off. Well, I was thinking that we had stuff plugged in our check valves. Well, the check valves aren't working correctly. Uh check valve works. When the pump kicks on, the flap goes open because of the pressure of the pump. It's a force man. and it keeps going. There's usually a bar and counterwe on there. So when the pump shuts off, the counterwe goes down and the check valve hits bottom and stops everything from coming in. Somebody cut off the counterwe. So now the check valve goes open when the pump kicks on and when the kick pump kicks off it floats. Sometimes it closes, sometimes it doesn't. Holy cow.

Don't know who did it. Um, all I can do is tell you Jerry from IPW was in there inspecting it and he says they look like they're cut off. Why? Why this one? He goes the bar is not even in here anymore. So why it's not leaking? He does not even know. I've never known it to look any different than it does. So that's wild.

But um there is a counterwe if you if you look at it, Google it. Um a check valve, there's usually always a counterwe or spring. Now, they came out with newer ones with springs, but um that's what this one estimate is for for 18,385. 14,370 is uh two new check valves and um two new valves because the valves are Was he able to get them to move at all? No. Okay.

Could not get them to move at all. And there's a third valve in there before the Y. And we actually got that to move a third by beating on it. Um so we're hoping we can get it all the way shut. If not, there might be like um um freight might come in and do a line stop or something like that, then that's expensive. But I didn't think this price was that bad because check valves are usually pretty expensive. And I was thinking about $6,000 a valve. But they they gave us a pretty decent price, I thought. And then this other one is

this other estimate is for a confined space entry in our lift station. So they can go all the way down, check the bottom and everything. And they said since we're down there, they they would want to pull that one old pump that they can't get parts for because it's too old and too obsolete. They have to take it with them, rip it apart, and bring it to a machinist to actually machine the bearing and uh propell it. So, that's the one that was It's the one that's not seating right. Usually, them are mil.

So, when you slide that pump down the rails, they go together really tight and they form a seal. Well, over time, they they start doing this, wearing. And because that check valve is not closing correctly, it's letting water flow by. So, we're actually recirculating water we already pumped. We're pumping water twice, which also is some of our bad numbers. We're not actually sending that water out there, but it's being recorded as if we are. So, it's

this is something an engineer could write up and show them that this is something that we're preparing for, dealing with. sewer operating is uh pretty healthy. It looks like I mean this is definitely something that needs to be fixed and it would be interesting to see what our numbers do after it is fixed. Exactly. It could be 10, could be 20, could be 3%. And John and and John can use this to help with our rerating too. Sure. Okay. Well, potentially it could go away. It would it would give us accurate numbers. Y, but yeah,

we could fall under the 80. I mean, in theory, Mhm. you're averaging 40 44,000 gallons of water a day produce. Yeah. Out of the water plant. In a perfect system, you're going to be pumping about 50,000 a day in a perfect system. We know our system isn't perfect. We know we're getting Well, ours is Well, I mean, we're customers and we're getting ground water. We got some pumps that's hooked to sanitary sewers. We have I'm sure uh soil lines. Yeah. You know, our systems 60 years old. Yeah. And uh almost 60 will be in a couple years. So, I'm sure we're getting a lot of, you know, rain water.

Mhm. You'll see those numbers go up a bunch here in the next couple days after this. We haven't had a huge rainy, but I bet we've had I believe our average is like 152,000 right now month of I've never seen it this high as it's been. Yeah. So, you got that check valve when it opens that pump kicks off, it's floating because the water's coming back so fast from the force man that it's floating in there. Sometimes it shut, sometimes it didn't. He he sat down there and watched it as I turned it on and off. And you figure what is it a mile out to the whole?

Well, the whole pipe goes straight. It doesn't cross the field at a diagonal. So, it's probably the better part of two miles really. So, you take a 6 inch main full of water and you pump it all out. Pump shuts off and that valve remains open. All that mile and a half, two miles of water runs right back in here. And you can pop the hatch out, pumps kick off, and see it's pumps it back out and it's metered each time. Yeah. Well, I think that's something that we need to fix like as soon as possible because that's a that's a big deal. Um, wonderful. That helped us out a bunch and I bet it will.

Let's see. So, quote S0000590 would be it's potentially just two valves, four valves. So it' be two check valves, but it could be three because they they've written it up as a to the three plug valves. So that could potentially be slightly less if you get that third valve working. Yes. A couple thousand dollar less or $1,000. A couple questions, but that's No, that's fine. They've written it up for the high amount.

Well, I like this U confined space entry for $2,600. This was um written up for an eight hour day, too. Well, they charge eight hours. It might be four hours and then this would go down.

That's what he told me on the phone. They're not charging us for pulling the pump. They're not charging us for putting our spare pump in. They just want that out of the way so they can inspect better. Plus, they want to take the old pump with them since they can't get parts for it. And that's another thing you might want to think about is do you want to keep refurbishing this pump that's out of date. I don't know what it's going to come back as. You know, they're going to take it to a machine shop and they're going to mill all this stuff. So, it's going to be expensive. Is that what he was talking about with the wear ring and the uh that he pointed out there yet? They can't get it. They can't order it from freight no more because the pump don't exist no more. Really? That the size

is that one an oddball or is he saying all of us? Okay. It's probably been in our I know they're old and they've been rebuilt. They've all been bu rebuilt at least once, but um he says they still make that style. It's just that one's obsolete now. Okay. What's the cost for a new one versus machining? Yeah, they're expensive. Yeah, it's going to be expensive either way. Yeah, a rebuild is Last time we had one rebuilt, I'm thinking it was in the mid teens. They have to mill it though.

That's replacing everything. I mean, it came back to us as new. Obviously, there might have been some machine work there, but it was new impeller, new wear ring, all the new seals, rewound motor, everything. You said the only thing you seen wrong with that pump really was the impeller and and that brass ring.

Yeah. Well, I think this is what that needs to be done. Uh, is there a motion to approve the first quote S00590 uh in the amount of $18,385? That would be to replace check valves and uh plug valves. Yes, I move to make that repair. I'll second. All in favor? I I.

And then the other one, which is uh everything he just talked about with the entry to inspect the uh the uh pump mounting surface and uh to change to our backup pump amount of $2,620. Again, I wanted to approve that as well. Good. All in favor? I I think that's good. We get those taken care of. I'm curious to see what our numbers do after that. I think they'll go down quite a bit. Okay. Uh do you have anything else?

Uh last thing is the MRO and DMRO is finally done for March. I had to wait for Element to send me the last packet of information on our testing and I just got it back last week. Okay. Well, thank you. Any questions for John?

Sorry. Uh Luke, uh for code enforcement, I issued five more code and ordinance violation notices, tagged two vehicles, towed one vehicle. Two of those were no parking at any time, and then some general nuisances. Both tagged vehicles have been removed, obviously. And for streets, sidewalks are done. We received a bunch of compliments so far. Sure. I'm sure we would. Um, but people are happy to see them. Um, I got a hold of Ace, talked to Justin. He said the paving is about two or three weeks out. He said two, maybe three. So, that'll be exciting when that gets done, too. We responded to 21 locate tickets in the month of April. Uh I'm still waiting to hear back about our Saul delivery. Our bid was submitted and accepted. We just haven't been given a delivery date yet. Neither have uh the other towns that are in the same bid. So it's a it's a I see people there this year. The bed. So after the last meeting, I called and said, "Hey, we're good to go." And so he broke me the news. It is 5 weeks out. So it'll be five weeks on that. That was a bummer. Uh alley maintenance will take place within the next week or two. Um we started spraying, so we'll spray and then our our implement works much better after you spray. So, and then just bringing back up the work

phone cell phone discussion. I don't know if that's a if it's a no. Just say no. If it's if it's possible, I would appreciate it. Were you able to look into work at all?

Yeah, I had that in my little thing saying, can we I sent out those emails to you guys. Did you guys about the I was wondering could we really zero in on the the polic policy handbook maybe by next meeting actually get it to where it approved. Um I sent emails to you guys concerning the cell phones and uh I can resend them if you guys want to. It was just it was just um uh things that Kathy had talked about, you know, usage and stuff. I remember that, but it didn't I think what we need is how like what are our plan options? How can we actually buy the phone? because I I do remember that vaguely and I don't remember there being any prohibition on the town buying a phone and she had outlined she had outlined the advantages and disadvantages of both personal and uh personal potentially with the stipen and the the

I have called Verizon and I'm just going to have to go visit a store. Okay. you know, to actually if if that's what Luke would prefer, and I think that makes some sense potentially. Uh I would be interested to see what plan options we have and, you know, Verizon is probably the best service up here. I don't I've got AT&T. It works most of the time. We have a tablet through Verizon already. I don't know if we're paying on that. And then I did speak with John before the meeting, too, and he'd be interested as well. Yeah, I think we do one, we ought to do two. Okay. Yeah, I think I think we need to find our plane options. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I'll I'll just go bringing it up then until we I kind of forgot about the handbook thing, too. So, all right. And then next, I have some trailers here. Yeah. Talk talk through uh the the needs for a trailer. Okay. So, we have a trailer currently that is um I don't know how old it is. Maybe 30, maybe 20. Okay. All right. Any idea, John?

So, um it does just fine for what it's meant for, which is barricades, and that's all it's used for. And then last festival I rolled my windows down and it's doing the um I need new bearings noises

and I'm like if I say this trailer's okay to use, we'll be dumping I'll be coming to a board meeting saying I need to take this in to get uh thousands of dollars put in it. It's going to be expensive to get it to where we can use it often. Well, we're getting uncomfortable with driving the mowers on 19 is one. We have a white line here that we can't cross or else you die. And then there's a ditch and our deck fits it fits perfectly in that mark. You can't go left, can't go right. Um I think just because we've done something a certain way for decades in the past, we don't have to continue doing it that way.

Can somebody follow in a truck? Did somebody What?

Can someone follow in a truck? Uh yeah. Yeah, that's an option. Um um and then and then we we make the track to the sewer plant in those and the mowers, too. And that's in my opinion that's useless hours being put on the mower each season. Um, all three trailer options here will fit the mowers, the K Cabota, the Massie Ferguson. One of those trailer options will fit everything besides the jetack, the dump truck, the saw truck. It'll fit our pickup trucks, the mowers, the K Cabota, the Massie. Um, then I have on this on this sheet how many trash boxes, which is our consideration,

which will be a a huge reason why we need a trailer. And if we keep it as long as we did the last one for 50 years, I think it it would uh behoo of us to go ahead and buy one. So, the 16 the the trailer that's 16 feet long. Um, super handy if I were to talk my wife into buying one for me. But for the town, if you were to ask me which which of the three I would choose, definitely the 20footer. Um they're all 7 ft wide, but the 20 the 20ft trailer is um it's going to be a uh it's going to be the stone that can kill all birds. So, but I I suppose we could get along with an 18t trailer, too. And I I put in here how many trash boxes, you know, front to back, side to side. Obviously, it's the same side to side.

So, this trailer And again, I'm I'm not necessarily saying we don't need a trailer. I do think that if this is something we want to pursue, my opinion would be to maybe look for a nice used trailer of some kind because $7,300 for something that isn't used daily, uh, that's a lot. Maybe we can find something in the $4,000 range that's in really, really good shape. The other thing I would say is I would prefer stake pockets because you think about stacking trash boxes. Number one, you need to be able to put some kind of taller sides on there. The second thing is you could completely remove them if you were going to tow a truck, which makes that a whole lot easier.

Okay. So, so is there a dollar is there a dollar amount then if we're saying no to all these brand new trailers? I don't know if we're saying yes or no to anything, right? But that's just my thoughts on the on the matter. I I I would prefer to buy buy a brand new one, but just me. We used to use one for the last years. Can't use another used one for another years.

We've actually mostly used somebody's trailer. Uh, but it's a 20-y old trailer and it works just fine. Uh, as long as those hubs are kept in good shape and you got to do a brake job every now and again, there's not that much that can break on a trailer. Um, be investigated before. Yeah. And I I think I think Luke, I think you bring up some really good points about the potential utility of having it. I'm not anti-trail. I just I do think that if we're going to look for one, we ought to probably look around a little bit more. I'm opposed to that. I mean, if we can find a you know,

the other thing is if you had one of the stake pockets instead of built-in sides, you can tow a truck on an 18 foot trailer if there's zero sides on it, right? Because then you don't have to worry about it can overhang six inches or something like that. You're just fine, right? Um, so anyway, that would that's why I'm sitting here thinking, can we put steak pockets on a trailer? Well, looking at this photograph, there are steak pockets on the outside. Mhm. I thought they That's probably just for a chain mount. I don't know. Okay. I would assume that the rail that's there is going to interfere, but I could be wrong.

These are permanent then, aren't they? Yeah, that's the way I'm seeing it. Yep. Are they sure track trails? What are these? Yes. Yeah. So, I'm semifamiliar with the uh construction of these. My father-in-law used to have one. And they're nice trailers. They really are. So, so the this this trailer here, the 20footer, these stake pockets won't work for sides. I don't think so. I think that's for a tie down.

Doesn't that look like that'll interfere with the rail that's already there? The side that's already there. I'm not here. Well, anyway, stop me. I don't I don't Doubt we're in a position to move on anything tonight. Okay. So, bring bring you guys used options or what what's the

Yeah, I think we should look around a little bit. Okay. Gotcha.

Did you have anything else? No, that's it. Thank you.

Or uh does anybody have any questions for Luke before I say what I say? Okay. We have delayed uh our shop edition for a year. Um and uh I've not called Hank to try to reschedule that, but I was thinking about with the paving coming up and we're going to have a mountain of millings and at some point the driveway there will need to be extended uh and we can work with stone or millings as a surface for several years too if they're put down nice. So my thought was uh I would like to where a drive would go dig out two feet deep and fill it with millings and that would give us then if we did a eventually a seven or eight inch thick slab you'd still have over 18 inches of base under it. But for now you'd have a really solid base that you could drive any of our equipment over and it'd be a good way to get rid of the mountain of millings that we'll have available to us. It'll be a great base. It'll uh We won't I mean I think we're in good shape most everywhere at the water plant, the sewer plant with surface. Uh I don't know what other use we would have for a bunch of millings and I know they'll probably they're probably willing to haul a lot of them away. Uh but since we could potentially have a good use for them, I think we ought to avail ourselves of that option. So that's kind of what I was thinking. I don't know if anybody else has any thoughts on that matter. Um, but I think get, you know, I would get locates done and start digging that out two feet deep there and take that dirt and then that could replenish if it's good dirt or

where I've thrown the asphalt out in front of it towards the street. Okay. What is the cost of that addition? Do you remember? I think it's about $55,000 for a finished building. And are we are we paying for that out of the same fund that the library projects coming out of? No, it was going to be split across water, sewer, and uh streets. Okay. Be a little bit of general if we needed to, but it's 60,000. Is it 60? So 20

you could split it three ways. 20 out of each or 25 25 and 10 or something like that, you know. I couldn't remember. Yeah. Well, it's been a long time since I've looked at it. Coming in on the tail end of that. I think the only concern I have with continuing with that without having the library done. We've got now we're going to have We'll get to that. But this is a zillion dollars. I've got somebody that's in the 20s.

Okay, good. That's good because we're only going to have like 66,000 to finish the library. There's, you know, I I would hate to put so much into something else and and not do the library and have it nice and do it right. Um, so I don't know. Do we still have money left from selling the old street garage? We do. We do. But when you look at the if you guys look at your fund report, look at if you look at your water operating and your are operating those are payments for the library comes out of those as well. So those are like um around 25,000 a year that um comes out of

Sure. So just keep that in mind.

Did the when we sold that building did that just go back into these operating funds? Okay. I mean, we had approved finishing off that other building that we built, and we're not going to do that now. We're just going to get power there and put up some lights and call it good. Um, so I don't know. Um, we still have equipment that sits outside and I know this has been talked about at Nauseium, but I think the reasons that led us to approve it a year ago is or a year and a half ago now probably, but it was going to be scheduled around this time. Uh, I think they still remain.

That's true, too. trying to build on my property. Everybody I call I started last year the prices I had last year has increased just over the last six months better. Yeah. And like I said, I'm going to talk to to INC to see if there would be a change in that cost. Okay. Um obviously it could increase to a point that didn't make sense, but if it's, you know, a few thousand, it's I think we ought to be able to weather that. Anyway, um yeah, that would be a good good use for the millings. Okay. Obviously. Well, let me Am I going all the way to the street with it? Yeah, I can. Uh the telephone ps

I think so. So, I think you'd come out straight and then at a certain point maybe angle a little bit to miss the telephone pole by a couple feet would be what I would do. Gotcha. And if nothing else, it's good parking surface. Uh the Well, we'll talk about that later. Okay. Uh clerk, treasurer Jennifer, do you have anything? Just a couple things. Um I was going to order the dumpsters to come in May for um for the Oh, heavy trash.

Yeah. Okay. The town clean up. As far as the ACE dumpsters, there'll be two of them. Um codification, we've gotten sent everything that we have so far to American Legal. We're waiting on the estimate back from there. Talked to Republic Trash and they have not got back with me, but um he was really interested in quoting for the festival. So my twin that you know it needs to be soon here. So um soon as I hear from him I'll let you guys know. Policy handbook we talked about that. Um do we want to sell it may be on I put it on the um the agenda. So flowers. Let's talk about flowers. Are you guys still okay with doing like 500 for the flowers in town?

Yeah. I haven't looked at flower prices, but I have um I think last year we undersshot whatever we said. We did. Um can we say 750 and then try to make it cheap? I'll move that we uh uh make it 750. 750 for flowers. I'm sure it's like everything else. I'm sure they've gone up. I haven't priced any either yet this year, but second. All in favor? I

um let's see. I talked to Mike Peter. He called this week and he has put me in contact with um an engineer at um HWC Engineering and his name is Brian Shehan and he does a lot of work with smaller communities on park projects. So, I have a meeting with them on Wednesday. Um, so hopefully, um, I was kind of giving them a, you know, what we have and what we would like to do. So, I'll let you guys know, um, once I have that meeting, see what it's all about. Be great.

The only other thing is, and I think it's it's on the agenda, is 296 streets. if you've got you need I'm still I'm still getting calls about it, but I did talk to Alex. Yeah. So, do you are you gonna have that tonight or do you have anything with that tonight? We're working on that. We've figured we're getting that communication out. We're trying to get it something there with the county. So, yeah, it's pretty cut and dry. I don't there's no two ways about it. It's theirs, you know. that response from my record as far as I'm aware. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Can we get a copy of it as residents and send them to the county commissioners and complain with that and getting them out as you know? Oh, from you're saying the endot? Yeah.

You take copy and send it up commissioners make a few phone calls. I travel that road quite often. And then I noticed right there uh just west of Walnut Street that the guy is complaining it's really tore up bad and there's potholes on the opposite side on the south side too. So when traffic comes people stop have to stop to wait let one go around that area. What's funny is they pave just just patching them. They know they're supposed to. Yeah, but they don't do it all. There's just like one here, one there, then a whole here.

Yeah, it's like they know they're supposed to be doing it. They're just putting us off. So, you all have made contact? Yeah. We're working with the county on that. Okay. Jennifer, did you have anything else? That's it. All right. Let's go into uh whatever updates you might have. That was the update that I had. Okay. I'm assuming we're still working on the ordinance for the park board as well. Okay. Yeah. Uh I had had a whole list that I talked to Craig about. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm sure we're working on all that. So, yeah. Um and then the uh what's the other thing he had said? Oh, the lawsuit down there on Broadway.

Uh sounds like we're in process of being removed from that, I think, because it has nothing really to do with us. So, Anyone? All right. Any questions for our attorney? No. Okay. Um, oh, that is one thing that I want to keep on the radar is is with our zoning ordinance. I'd ask for if you guys had any suggestions for somebody to work with for codifying or updating our zoning ordinances and hosting them online.

Um, American Legal won't handle updates. They said they will host it for us, but since they didn't compile it originally, they won't handle the updates. I tried contacting the company that originally did it, which was Ground Rules out of Zansville. Tried contacting them a couple times. They won't call back. Um, so we need we need to figure that out. Updated zoning map. Uh, and then any of the zoning changes that we've made in the last few years, getting them updated in our zoning ordinance and making that public easily publicly available. Yeah. So, we'll see what we can find for that.

All right. Good deal. Thank you. All right, we'll move on to old business uh library. I see we've gotten a couple of other quotes in the last month. You put the most recent one in here and it is quite costly. Um I have got somebody that uh I know that came out and he provided me with a quote, but he's revising it um to because uh he had left something off of there. Um but he's in the 20s. Uh that's not everything finished. Obviously, we'd still have to do the flooring. We'd still have to do lighting. Um and then uh the window and the door. Um at least getting those made. The window, I also talked to Towns and Glass um and they are putting together uh a quote to make a custom window and trim it all out and install everything to match the rest of the building. Um, and so that's in process as well. Still got to find somebody to make a door. U, but anyway, uh, I will get that quote to everybody as soon as I get it. But compared with some of the other ones we've gotten, I think he's going to be far and away the least expensive. U, it's it's somebody I know. I don't know him super well. I do go to church with him and uh, he does some work for Cityville and everything I've seen him do there. uh looks really good. So, um hopefully numbers come back

uh really good and we've got a lot of wiggle room and he can come in and do the big part of it and then we'll have a lot of money left for finishing it off uh as nice as we can. You know, I've worked with Townson for years. Town glass is great. Direct and he's he's got some ideas, too. Um, there's companies that make uh antique glass. You look at that building, there's a couple panes that have been replaced, but most of it's still the original glass and it's kind of got that winess to it. Yeah.

Well, there's companies that can reproduce that. And I asked him about that and he said, "Yeah, we can get it." He said, "But I've had the most luck going to there's a couple salvage places in Indie that have big windows a lot of the time that you can get and then they'll cut them down and make a frame for it." And so that's his suggestion. And so he's going to get me the information on that as well. And maybe we can actually have legitimate antique glass uh for that for that fixed window that'll go over that door.

But anyway, so I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks a lot of this kind of comes together and we'll have some real information to go off of. That's the goal there. Uh anything uh the library part two here would be identified in the uh that landmarks report were some of the outside trim issues. There's some beadboard soft on the back side of the building and then a couple window frames I think that they said uh they thought were rotted and need some repair. Um, I would like to, and I haven't talked to him about it yet, but I'd like to talk to Rick Viper and see if that's something that he might be able to help us with. That way, we can at least get some progress on the outside of the building. And the outside of the building doesn't need that much really, but from back when the roof before they repair the roof, that back sopet does have some bad areas in it. Um, and he's he's a pretty meticulous fellow. I think he'd treat us pretty well. Um, everybody's okay with that. I know he's been okay with working by the hour in the past and he's already kind of set up with the town to do that. We could just talk talk to him and if he's willing to do that, I'd like to give him the go-ahad for that.

So, you looking for a motion for that? Uh well, I don't even know if he wants to do it. Okay. So, bring it back. Yeah. Any info on the tile? Uh, no. I'm going to have to go to um the live the main branch or somebody's going to need to. I don't know if I've got time. My work schedule has changed. I work Monday through Friday right now for the next four months because we've got a bunch of new recruits for training. Um, and so that's I can get away sometimes during the day, but I'm far more limited now than I typically am. Um, so actually if if uh one of you all could maybe I'll try to reach out.

Yeah. just see if they have any information about that that working that's on there. I remember they said it was produced by the same company that originally did it with the original molds from 1916 which I thought was cool as could be. Um but I don't know who what company that was. So do the maintenance. Okay.

Good deal. All right. Uh, park board we kind of touched on. They're still working on the ordinance. Um, 296th Street. Uh, sounds like that's in progress. Any other old business from the council? All right, we'll move on to new business. Uh, town yard sale date. When do we usually is it first or second week of June? June is like I've had people ask. So, Jan, what is the June? Always the first week in June. I can't remember if it's 1st or second.

When is Father's Day? Father's the 21st of June. Think we've always had it earlier. When are you talking about getting the dumpsters? Um, I was going to call Sean tomorrow and see if he wants to deliver. whenever you guys want me to. No, it doesn't matter. I was going to do I was going to do so we could have them in May to get things cleaned out stuff. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know that we need to do that at the same time as we're doing the yard sales. Be nice to have them after the garage sale so we can put all the stuff that didn't sell.

Well, just saying him out schedule him out in June. Maybe we do the either the 6th or the 13th of June for yard sales. Somebody have an opinion on that. I think that makes sense that folks try to sell things and what they don't sell they just get rid of. Yeah. Mhm. So if we did it on the 6th, June 6, Saturday, June 6th, I'll schedule the first he

Okay. Uh,

we do have uh a sewer just for water and check crawl space. I'm having trouble deciphering what's going on with this leak adjust that we've got. So, you've verified that there's not currently a leak, right? But what I'm curious about is was the leak that existed from our water.

I don't know. I did not inspect the leak. I just inspected the meter to see if there was a leak. Where was it? She took on 19. The one on 19 that we went Oh, that was a leak adjust. Um, we talking about an old well no longer in use. Plumber to remove the old well and fix the piping. Yeah.

Well, and if that was connected in too, that's a problem. But in any case, I mean, I guess they had an increase in usage, right? I didn't have a current leak. A substantial actually increase in usage almost four times.

Is that a four or nine? The average I bet that's a nine. 9207. 427 4207. Oh, really? Really? Oh, I guess it's just water or just sewer. Just sewer.

When I talked to her, she just said that she had they've had a house and so I sent this to her and had John check it. So, she didn't say anything about like a an old well. So, I don't know anything about that. I'm confused. Yeah, that's I mean their usage is almost four times normal. Yeah, it was over 10,000.

Do you have a copy of that? Here you are. with that last part anyways to remove old well and fix piping. Was those the problems fixed?

Right. Well, they verified again that there's no leak. But our verification typically is just checking the meter itself and see if if it's flowing currently, number one, and if it in if it's flagged for a leak, it'll also show that. So that's a good indication that there's no water flowing at the time obviously, but I don't understand the whole situation, I guess. And then the next

I think I would feel more comfortable if we clarified it. I'm curious. I mean, it could be as simple as if there's an old if there was no water when they checked and then they checked again and they saw water leaking. That could have been they had the hose on or something and it wasn't before and that's the hose bib will leak inside. Uh something as simple as that. But I don't understand the well part. connection been used. So town usage was smaller than that's the other thing too is and you're not supposed to have those connected. That's a problem.

That 4207 confuses me on their average cost. That's just the fours above that. That's a nine. No, it's 42. Well, look at their fours above. What's the minimum? Wait, wait, wait, wait. The minimum sewer bill is more than that. No, it's not. What's our minimum? I thought our minimum sewer was like 55. No, no, it's not. It's like 34 34 something. Yeah. Okay. 3428, I believe, is a

Is there a motion to table this and uh find out more information about it? I'll make a motion to table. Second. All in favor? I Okay. Uh, quickly, what is this the home and garden show? Is it going to be from broadcast from the festival? Yeah. Um, if you guys are okay with it, they give us the same price as the last two years. So, um, I want to get a if it's approval, they've got us penciled in. So they they did it over here at the our plaza area which was really nice.

Stuck in here. No fun. Um, somebody want to make a motion on this either way.

Did you approve this? Yes. Is there a second? I'll second. All in favor for having the WIBC home show at our uh Earth Festival. I your drive. That's the amount of $5,720. They do quite a bit of advertising leading up to it and that's that's a lot of exposure with WIBC. Ton of exposure. Okay. Any other business from the council tonight? Yeah, I've been working with Ron Stamps with his with his uh sidewalk and

restoration on that dirt things there along. U just wanting to continue with that with some seed and uh possibly some ground straw on top of that. I just want I think that makes sense. Okay. One's blessing to do that. I just didn't want to do that on my own. I know that's actually relatively speaking fairly low dollar amount and that's kind of repairing something that we've already got. I don't even know. I mean, unless somebody you feel like you want a motion for that. I think that's just kind of regular business. Well, I just I just didn't want folks to say, "Well, he's your neighbor and their friends and you know."

No. And I think it's something we're going to have to look at everywhere. Um I'm sure everybody saw the the sidewalks that we've done uh up along here. The contractor suggested and ended up just kind of doing it because I said they're the experts. Let them do what they want to do. But it was originally spec and they suggested that they have a lot of bad luck with that and that's a waste of time and money a lot of times because it won't actually take in their experience. And so they said let's just pulverize and seed it and I said well you guys are the experts. I mean I wonder moving forward if we might look at hydro seating at some point in our next project

and we've done that other areas in town. Uh and it's worked out really well. It does. So, in any case, uh the point is even though they've pulverized and and rad out and seated everything there, um you know, it was dry those couple weeks, I don't know if that's going to take. And then do we we might need to do some spot work along there, too. So, the point is it's not just Mr. Stamp's uh the the town property adjoining his uh or adjacent to his. It it could be several areas in town, and I it's our property. We need to take care of it. And I just want to reiterate, it don't have to match anything.

I don't care if it's field grass in there. As long as it's not weeds. Sure. Something green that looks that's not a problem. Well, and that's and see I agree with him on that because like when they hydro seedated the subdivision that the hydro seed was absolutely horrible. It was full weeds. Really? Yeah. So like when we had final grass drone and everything like that that that was that was an absolute fight because they spray it out of the the machine.

Yeah. They had a big truck come out and they spread everything. But yeah, like when it finally took it was nothing but weeds. There was very little grass. So I'd spend easily a couple thousand dollar just having true green come out receded and it was absolutely ridiculous. The other thing we could potentially look at is see how well these areas take off and we could potentially then u if they areas that need it that are big enough to justify it, we could potentially rent a slice cedar. Okay. Um I've I've seen some good results out of that too. Yeah. But get some rain on it, get the everything to kind of settle out. Let whatever's going to grow grow.

And then maybe go over the the bare spots or something. And I want to thank town again for putting that strip the sidewalk because it looks very nice and people have been enjoying it. I've talked to people walking on it with their dogs and just believe walking. They say great much appreciated.

Well, I'm I'm glad we were able to do that. Uh and we've got money set aside to do another segment this year. And I guess that's the last thing to talk about here is and unless anybody else has anything, but I've kind of been looking at a couple areas and um I think we need to look around and identify some segments, but there's one that I had an idea about that would kind of link the south end uh closer to the north, which is uh between Jackson and is it Monroe? trailer park, Madison, Monroe, Jefferson,

right? Madison. So Jackson and Madison, their sidewalk on the west side of that road all the way. So that new strip that we put in along Jackson is set up for a diagonal crossing over to that sidewalk. So drive by it, see what you think. But that's about a block and a half, and that would kind of link all that back with town. Um, that's an option. There's also some areas on Broadway that are really bad that uh could use some work, but I think we need to identify a segment and call contractors and get it going. So, drive around, look around, see what you think. Uh we've got our sidewalk inventory, too. We can look at the grading. Um

and maybe work worst to best is what we've talked about in the past. Uh maybe that makes sense. Maybe we have a different objective of like completing an area and working out from there. It doesn't matter. Uh but we need to we need to identify that and get it going here. Um because festival will be here before we know it get as much work done before festival as we can. Any other business from the council? Anything from anyone in attendance? Because the one over there on or was there was it going over the where you guys wanted it? Oh, up on Meridian. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.

Did that ever get taken care of?

It did. Uh the con so I'll tell you the whole story briefly is we had survey work done to establish a straight line. Uh for whatever reason, the sidewalk was not put in in accordance with that. contractor admitted their mistake, said, "We want to leave it. Uh, but if you want us to fix it, just tell us and we'll do it." And so I talked to our engineer and our engineer said, "Uh, you can do that, but you need to actually have an uh perpetual easement recorded." So that protects the adjacent homeowner because that's technically their property. If somebody fell on the town sidewalk, they'd be open to lawsuit. It also protects us from anybody in the future saying, "Get your sidewalk off our property." And that's a legal process to do that. And so then it's like, well, what are we doing here? We we we did the work on the front end to not even have this happen and it happened and they're willing to fix it. And so they actually had to tear out about half of what they did there and and replace it, but it's where it needs to be. Um, and then they they redid uh the intersection over here as well. Uh, everything's looking pretty good. I'm I'm happy we were able to include the sidewalks in this paving project. was very grateful for that.

What was the explanation on that up here that they added up so high? It's a stage. I don't I mean I don't know. I see that it's like it doesn't blend in with the existing. You would think that you would use the the existing sidewalk as your reference point, but there was there's no

You can look at it right now. You can look at it right now what they've redone and it's still there's a couple areas that like run uphill or something and it's not bad enough for them to have to redo. But I'm looking at the sidewalk as a whole down that whole half block and that's one plane. So everything should relate back to that plane. But it seemed like a lot of what they did was kind of arbitrary. Um so anyway, they fixed that old business. this this puddle here on Main Street. Beavers, weren't we going to talk to the pavers about that when they get here? Take a strip, middle strip,

middle strip along the curve. Uh I don't think they've got a narrow mill head. Yeah. Okay. But the saw cut idea. The saw cut idea I would be interested in trying out. Yeah. We got to do something there now. Get rid of that water.

Uh, well, how about this? What's in our Where's our fun? What's in our storm water fun? Because that's another question is do we just have a catch basin put in over there? 33456 32 33 33 3 almost 35 I don't remember. Do you remember what this cost doing the catch basin here and then down into the park? 18.

I was thinking maybe 13 or I'd have to look up. It was 18. And then the one over there they that we did on central.

I think that's the the ultimate fix. Yes, it is. It probably needs it. I agree. Um, could we we get a quote on that? Yeah. forward. Do you want to do you have any contractors you know of or you want to find one that could give us a quote for doing a storm catch basin in this quarter block over here? U I'll get I'll call Watson

Watson's probably our best price just as much as we've worked with him in the past. But it's probably good to have a second set of numbers, too, just to confirm that. He's he's treated us very very well. Always goes above and beyond. Um, but we should probably identify another contractor, too, just in case because Watson's talked about retiring in the past couple years, too. So, I'd hate to see that happen, but I understand. Go enjoy in anyway. Any other business tonight? Yes, ma'am.

Um, it was it was more this um I can get it for you after unless I Yeah, we was Yeah, we made more this last month than what we did last month. So, Is there any progress? Are they going to make any calm down? I was I I looked into that. I won't quote what I was told, but it's not my department. So,

you want to maybe talk to Rick about that and see if there's if just see what he thinks. Okay. I mean, I don't know. I do think as much debris is coming off of that house now. Yeah, that's bad. That the homeowner or the property owner needs to I thought about maybe calling the fire department and see if the chief could do something about it. Yeah, I don't think they really have much to do with that, but um I think Rick would be a good one to talk to about get him to look at it and see what he thinks. All right. Yesterday I rented a facility next door house

for a shower and I came at 10:00. We set up stuff and I left probably 11. I got midway street. Nine cats went in front of the apartment, one had all there's only two cats because they all brothers and sisters. So that was bad enough. Then during the shower, we had decorated in the flower boxes. A cat's up in the box on the decoration. I sure didn't appate for a facility and we have to worry about all those blank. I thought we were address

well we passed an ordinance um so Luke does have the ability to actually site people on this now and and walk on a hot day. Oh my goodness. Nobody nobody can stand be utilize it. That's my front porch too. That's not I don't know how many I mean this is the nine that come from right

I have spoke with the the owner of the apartments and he is in the process now of trying to get things um this gentleman to move. I mean, so that's a little bit of hope there, you know. I sat here and watched them all day.

Where where's our book of uh new ordinances, like an updated ordinance book? Uh Jennifer keeps a stack of them. I need like a whole book with all the new stuff in it. Well, so what happens is they get passed and then once a year they get wrapped up into that book and that book gets updated. So if your book has appear to get updated, I mean you can look at it. There should be on the front page or one of the early pages. It should tell you what revision it is. Yeah. Pam worked on update. Um but it's possible yours got missed. Last update. When was the last update? A couple months ago, was it a few months ago? Well,

it's been or was it last year? I think I wrote in there when I did the last. Okay. We take one of those. They're they're up to date. But then any ordinances in the we'll say this year you've got so you Okay.

Real quick. Real quick. income for the park for the month of March was $1,365.98. Um, so so far the total is $2,555.78 which our ending balance was $483,92328. So we are making money. Yes, ma'am. Especially if we can get a grant with a match. Yes. To be able to do a million dollar park project would be pretty this this gentleman that I'm going to talk to, he's gotten Eli, you know, be cool if we could smaller

DNR plus a private grant or something like that. It would be really neat. So, we'll see. Yeah, me too. Me, too. Put that blue sheet back in there, please. Do Do I Do we have blue sheet back in there? Do we have the the cat ordinance number? Uh, she can give it to you. Yeah, I got it. I'll just I'll I'll issue some uh I'll issue paperwork on that tonight. Okay. Just do it right now. Okay. Uh thank you. Well, thank you everybody for being here. Appreciate it. Is there a motion to sign our claims and adjourn? I'll move to sign claims and second. All in favor? I

I All right. Thanks. Yeah. See? No. Yeah. I maybe it was lost in communication. My understanding kind of what we were looking is that I would be called in on these meetings. Do we have that? Uh I don't think that ever uh was officially stated. I personally don't have a problem with that because uh a lot of the time you guys can't give us an answer on the spot anyway. So, as long as there's good communication between us and that's the goal, I think we're okay. Okay. Um, there may be times that we want somebody here,

but I think it's I think it's okay to plan on uh