Library Board - Regular Meeting

For the City Of Apache Junction. Today's date is 12/08/2025. The time is 05:30. Pledge of Allegiance, please stand for the pledge.

Rudy, roll call, please. Chairman Danford. Here. Vice Chair Klett. Here. Commissioner Cooper. Here. Commissioner Meek. Here. Commissioner Smithson? Here. All present, we have a quorum, Mr. Chairman. Cool. Do we have

a motion to approve the consent agenda?

I motion we approve the consent agenda.

Second. Rudy, roll call please.

I'm sorry, who did the second? Catherine. Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Chairman Danford.

Yes.

Vice Chair Klett. Yes. Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes. So moved, Mr. Chairman.

Announcement of artwork. Does the commission have any artwork to discuss? Anything that we've seen that we like? You always stuff.

I don't have anything new.

Okay. Moving on.

We did get the email from Erica. And I've been driving by. And I do love seeing the high school artwork that is now on display over there by the high school. Ironwood and Southern.

Ironwood and Southern by Sheila Sebastian Marcos. It was installed on eleventwenty four. I'm going to actually come back here on Friday and take a picture of her and the cabinet. And there will be a press release next week.

Cool.

There

are no public hearings this evening. There are three items to discuss under old business. An update on the AJ High School Traffic Contest, which I think she just gave us. A discussion on available art funds and progress on the call to artists. So I guess we just had the update on the public art contest. Rudy, I guess you have a discussion on available art funds.

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We've got about half $1,000,000, maybe just a little over half $1,000,000 in the public art fund. Wow. Suffice it to say, we need to spend some money. And one of the couple of ideas, of course, we're still working through some of the issues on the eight out roundabout, which is probably going to be a big expensive project, our next big expensive project. But we've also got a lot of additional traffic cabinets in the city to wrap. So, Erica, we've got a call for artists in process or done or ready to go.

So that will actually be live hopefully tonight. So we released it today. Hopefully it will be live tonight. And actually, Diane is here. She can talk a little bit about that. And I have it right here.

Erica, how many more cabinets potentially do

we We

have a total of 16 cabinets. And we have the next cabinets that are going to go out are five cabinets. One is the patriotic theme, right here on Idaho And Superstition. And then the other five are along Ironwood. So Ironwood Drive and Superstition Boulevard, Ironwood and Ray, Ironwood And Radiance, and Ironwood And Baseline.

And we did check with ADOT. And ADOT's not wanting putting wraps on their cabinets on Idaho. Idaho is a state route, you may recall. So unfortunately, we're not doing wraps on Idaho.

That's correct. They don't want anything to do with it.

Are they being crabby or what? ADOT? That's what they want? That's

right.

Dan? Ready?

Okay, as Erica mentioned, we have a call to artists that's going out tonight or tomorrow. And this is going to be a huge help for some of these smaller projects. We're going to be doing a lot of utility cabinets. So we're going to create a pre qualified artist roster. There's no set number of artists who can be selected for this.

We're going to be posting this everywhere, Arizona Commission on the Arts, ArtsLink, Southern Arizona Arts Pages. So it'll be broadcasted not just on this website, which is how they apply. But, they're going to be public artists are constantly looking at different websites to see what's new. And this is going to be very helpful for the next three years. So we're going to get, artists to apply.

We'll have a panel of arts professionals going over the submissions, and then select the artist. Once we have an opportunity, a panel will look at the artists who have been selected who are on that list and select the best artists for that particular project. So the budgets vary quite a bit. It could be $2,000 or so for you know, what your utility box wraps are up to $150,000 For a major project we will probably do a completely separate call to artist And it may be national. The roster is only for Arizona based ARTIST. So any questions?

Does this go out on just to like promote it, the Apache Junction Facebook page and like Instagram? My daughter actually is on the Facebook page and so she keeps me up to date with everything going on.

It will go on all our Okay. Social Yes.

And it will be on the city website on the public art solicitation page as well.

So that was a yes social media?

That's right?

That was a yes for social media.

Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Diane.

I see them popping up all the time. Yeah.

Artists. There are two new items under new business. The first item is the election of chair and vice chair. It's that time of year again. So we now will take open the nomination process. Can I have a motion to open the nominations for chairperson? So moved.

Second.

Actually, someone needs to make the motion now. Oh, okay. Yes. You did, you did. Never mind. You got a second. Roll call. Chairman Danford. Yes.

Vice Chair Klett. Yes. Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Commissioner Meek.

Yes.

Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

So moved, Mr. Chairman. Nominations for chair are open.

I now call for nominations for chairperson.

I nominate Jeffrey. Thanks.

And then do we second that?

If you want.

Or if

you can nominate someone else if you want.

Or do we wait?

Yeah. We don't set on anything.

I make the call three times. I call for nominations for chairperson. I call for nominations for chairperson. Four times. Can I have a motion are there any other nominations? Just me here. I feel honored. Can I have a motion to close nominations for chair?

Motion we close nominations for chair.

Can I have a second?

Second.

Rudy, roll call.

Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Commissioner Meek. Yes. Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Vice Chair Klett? Yes. Chairman Danford? Yes. Nominations are closed, Mr. Chairman.

I'm happy to stay Vice Chair unless somebody else wants to try it.

There was only one nominee for chairman.

Right. So now we move on to the vice chair. Can I have a motion to open nominations for vice chair?

Mr. Chairman, just one second. I think we still need to officially vote you in.

Oh, okay.

So we need a motion or a second.

This point. Okay. So I call for a motion to approve Jeff Danford for chairperson.

So moved.

Second.

Roll call. Chairman Danford. Yes. Vice Chair Klett. Yes. Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes. Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Congratulations, Mr. Chairman. You are Chairman again. Doctor. Gavel?

Yes.

Now open can I have a motion to open the nominations for Vice Chair? So moved. Okay. Can I have a second?

I'll second it.

Roll call.

Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Chairman Danford. Yes. Vice Chair Colette. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes. Commissioner Cooper? Yes. The nominations for Vice Chair are open, Mr. Chairman. Cool. I now call for nominations for Vice Chair.

So moved.

No. No, we need to nominate a person.

Oh, we nominate. I'm sorry. I nominate Gretchen Klutt for vice chair.

Second? I call for nominations for vice chair. I call for nominations for vice chair. And I call for nominations for Vice Chair. There's a lot of bureaucracy.

Can I have a motion to close nominations for Vice Chair? So move. Second.

Second.

Roll call. Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes. Vice Chair Glutt. Yes. Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Chairman Danford? Yes. The nominations are closed. We had one nominee. That would be Gretchen Klett.

Okay. I now call for a motion to approve Gretchen Klett for Vice Chairman.

I motion we approve Gretchen Klett for Vice Chairman.

I'll second it.

We roll call.

Commissioner Smithson.

Yes.

Commissioner Cooper. Yes. Vice Chair Klatt.

Yes.

Chairman Danford. Yes. Commissioner Meek. Yes. Congratulations. Gretchen, you are vice chairwoman. You have

some notes. The

second item is the discussion on the annual AJHS student public art contest. Erica?

So I got a suggestion from Commissioner Meek about doing an annual contest with the students because this one went so well. I thought it was actually really great. We've got some great submissions. Maybe we can

do this

again. Now, unfortunately, the the rest of the cabinets will be taken with the artist roster. And the existing design will last about three to five years. So we were thinking you guys can come up with some additional ideas for an annual student contest. Now, she cleared this with Joel. It's Okay to do it with local sponsors. It does have to be a private donor. So maybe the top three submissions can get a prize like $250 $125.75 dollars But they do have to be private donors.

Erica, can you speak in your mic a little more? We can Oh, sorry.

I'm so short. This thing is this mic is so short.

So are we responsible for finding the private donations? Or are there I don't want to say a list, but maybe some business names in the community that have donated in the past to things and would donate again.

Well, that is a great question.

I was kind of thinking we have a lot of local artists. We have a lot of individuals and organizations that really Or support the there's also the possibility of approaching one of the existing nonprofits to just kind of put a call out to people, hey, we're doing this. We need some people to donate some money and have it collected by one of the nonprofits. I'm not sure about the legality. I know some people that would write a check for $400 Yeah.

To sponsor and encourage some artists. And I was thinking, you know, we didn't have the greatest turnout for this contest. But if we started having something annually, even like I was looking at those windows up there, we have eight windows along the top out in the foyer. About three by three if we had a contest each year and we offered the prizes, Maybe we could encourage some of the high school age kids to get involved in art and hey, it actually does have the potential of getting some recognition.

Getting them involved in the community.

Joel, how would that work with the private donations? Mr. Chair,

commission, yes. People can donate. They can donate to the city, and they can dedicate it to this particular purpose. Doesn't have to be through a five zero one c three. In fact, that complicates it, I think.

Okay.

So I think you would just have them donate to the city with it earmarked specifically for this purpose. That's the better way to do it. Cool. Cool. They could set it aside for this particular purpose.

Okay.

And finance could take the money that way and they could do that.

I like that suggestion. Erica, can we work on that? What has Yeah,

to be done on can work on that. I was hoping you can come up with suggestions for this idea.

We were talking I didn't realize all the cabinets were being spoken for already.

Oh, right.

So I was thinking different windows. As we're sitting here, I'm looking out there going, there is windows.

Yeah.

And Erica mentioned also the MGC and the library have windows.

Yeah.

I don't know if at some point a business would say, hey, would like a mural. Maybe one year, no. If we start doing this and people are aware of it, we, you know, could start spreading the word unofficially, asking, you know, letting businesses know that, you know, if they have a blank wall and they'd like a mural, maybe we could open it up.

What if we married it to a particular business each year? That business sponsored a contest. And then they get play. That business and the kid gets play that year so that then the businesses kind of become competitive in who wants to sponsor that particular contest.

Joel, since we're here for public art on publicly owned streets and buildings, how would this apply for doing something like at a business or something? Can we do that? You mean having these donations? Having the Arts Commission involved.

Oh, for private? For private. Yeah, I would probably stay away from that. Okay. Yeah. Definitely would stay away from that.

I was thinking that might be something too far.

No, I was thinking more like when we said, Mary, but if we did the display in a public place, then you'd put up some kind of a plaque or something that recognized the business that supported it as well as the kid or particular

GREGORY So acknowledge the donor in addition to the artist.

GREGORY acknowledge the business owner that helped contribute to that. The city would acknowledge that. That way, you're not giving privately to that business. But you're giving them some free advertising and a pat on Like the back. GREGORY

sponsored by whatever.

GREGORY So let me get this. We're not talking about putting art on private buildings.

GREGORY Correct.

It's still public art, just asking for donations from private buildings to do it.

Asking a private business to sponsor the high school competition that would be an annual thing.

Publicly displayed.

JULIE Publicly displayed. And then that way, that business gets the warm fuzzy of that advertising, which is related to the cause, which they don't get from regular advertising because the idea is that, oh, I want to go eat at Charlie's because Charlie supports kids in art. And that's what I feel warm to. And that's cause funding and cause advertising, which is very, very good advertising.

JOSEPH We're on solid ground here, Joe? Joel?

JOSEPH Yeah. I mean, you're talking about having a little plaque or something? Or a little how would you want to acknowledge the private business?

How would you acknowledge them?

I don't know. Put up a plaque. Put a thing in the paper. Then it

goes in the air.

Yeah. If it's just a temporary it's only like every year, then I wouldn't do a plaque. I would probably just do an advertising. Okay. I think you can you can get away with that.

If we're only doing a temporary

audit Like, we do an an announcement like so many other places do, sponsored by so and so on the bottom. Exactly. So when we do the Facebook announcement and the other stuff like that Have their logo. And acknowledging that they sponsored it for 2026.

So in terms of developing a program like this, I would say probably some of our first steps should be to do some site selection and get a good list of places that would be an opportunity for this. It would help us develop a budget for how much it would cost to create the artwork. And we could then set some parameters as to, is this an annual? And is this a temporary piece of public art that goes up just for a year? So once we have a list of sites, I think a list of potential partners.

Could it be the chamber and chamber businesses that rotate through? Could the chamber, or does the chamber, offer challenges to their members to do these sorts of things? And is that a point of pride then that the chamber could offer additional recognition to its partners and its member businesses as the program goes forth? So I think really developing a program and then saying, yes, we can do it would be great. You know, some locations, identifying some partners, identifying some parameters for the program and a budget for what it might cost.

And then, of course, listing advantages in terms of signage and recognition and promotion for the partners, as well as benefits for the students. Perhaps there's a scholarship component, for example, that could be developed along with this so that beyond just that year of exposure for the student, they have something to carry forward in a college application, that they were a winner of this commission, and then also that they may have some scholarship money attached to it. Just some thoughts in terms of how to develop it.

The chamber does have a scholarship fund that they maintain. They finance it through the raffles at the mixers every month. They do a fiftyfifty raffle and half the money goes to the scholarship fund and half the money goes to the lucky winner. Superstition the artists of the superstitions would be worth reaching out to just for their support for something like this. I know they used to do scholarships and they gave up on that idea a long time ago. But they might be interested in renewing that interest.

Does the high school have like an art booster club or an art club of sorts through which we could work? No? Okay.

Well, my thought was actually all the high school age students. So not exclusively AJ high school. But include the Home school other and everybody.

Yeah. All the homeschools and charter schools should definitely be involved.

Yeah, right.

That it's the entire community.

CHRISTINE Open it to all

of them.

CHRISTINE Right. So in that plan, I guess a participant list would also be important to review.

CHRISTINE HODGES: Yep.

And I like what you said. First of all, going through the chamber is a great idea. But identifying where we're going to put it first, because whatever businesses are going to come in, they're going to want to know where their stuff is going to be seen, where it's going to be seen and reflects back to them. But everything you said was spot on, I think. That's basically a plan. We write up what you said, first, we just need to find a spot that we a couple spots. And we'll reach out to the chamber. But that's after we've figured out a budget, participants. What else did you say?

Potential partners. Potential partners. Yeah. And I think that the scope of the project really would be determined a great deal just by that site selection, in terms of how many locations could we do, what kind of medium might be appropriate in those locations, and what the costs might be, what the installation needs might be. All of that would help inform a budget.

So it sounds like we've got some more decisions. As we go through that plan, we'll break it down and tighten up some of those other little decisions.

GREGORY Diane, as our consultant you've done a great job for us so far, you and our city staff, except for Rudy. You and our city staff, sorry, What are your thoughts? Have you had any experience with working with something like this? She's got She's got thoughts.

With a student art contest? Yeah. No. No.

Wow. We could I've worked for

a number of city entities. But they have not done student art contests. There was a program with the city of Goodyear where students were given funds to do a photography project. And the aim was there were areas of Goodyear that were changing very, very rapidly. And people wanted to kind of capture what it looked like at that point. So students went out and they took photographs. And then photographs were judged. And then they were printed up and they were hung in city places.

Where we actually were sort of looking at an RFQ as opposed to a specific project? So we had the site, and then the artist was teamed with a student who was selected, and together they created something. That's just another possible way of looking at it that might give the student a real behind the scenes artist led experience as well.

Having ten years experience with the artists of superstitions, that idea isn't going to fly.

Got it. Good to know. I don't have that.

It's a great idea, but

Will they really want to do

I don't see too many of the artists, if any of the artists in this area, wanting to sign up for a deal like that.

Okay. Good to know.

There's two members of the organization that are both retired teachers. And they both run the art program for the artist group itself. And I know neither one of them, one of them has got a husband with severe health issues and the other one is trying to make her name as an artist herself and is keeping busy twenty four hours a day just doing that. I don't think that will work. But I do like I mean, you've got experience with setting up between the city and Diane, you guys have experience in identifying locations for us to look at, probably coming up with criteria.

Because the criteria wouldn't be all that far different from what you know as normal RFQs, would it?

Are you talking about because I know this is a question that was raised earlier. Are we talking about having this contest and having the art put in a civic place or a privately owned property. We're talking

about a civic. Civic.

Civic location.

Yeah, I think we have to identify some places.

I was really kind of leaning towards vinyl because it's a nice simple medium. And it would last for a few years. And it's not terribly expensive.

And we've already building up RFQ list. We have a process for RFQs. Rudy, how do we get this thing going? I think, well, we've heard a lot

of ideas, Mr. Chairman. I think what we need to do is put our thoughts together at the staff level, maybe come up with an outline of how this process might work, what some of that criteria might be, come back to you and say, are we on the right track? You know, you want to make changes? You want different ideas? And try and lay out a plan Okay. For how we might tackle this, where some of these art pieces can go. Maybe some of the sponsoring businesses could display pieces in their establishments.

Okay.

You know, things like that. We'll put together

can give you that direction then?

I'm sorry. There's one more thing.

Yes, sir.

There's a student youth council

that also Yes.

Ah,

yes. That you really should include. Yeah, the Youth Advisory Committee.

Yes. Yes. I forgot about that. You've worked with them before, haven't you?

Yeah, with the traffic cabinet.

Yeah. They narrowed down kind of their suggestions. They helped pick Jayla.

That's an excellent idea.

We definitely want to

Include them.

I didn't mean

to make I agree. I think they should too.

Well, we've got to spend that money.

Yeah. We can reach out to send you This is a different We can reach out. I can reach out to the artist and

the superstitions. Yeah, dollars 100. See if there's any interest for the final.

That's right. We would be spending a lot of money with the vinyl.

We would be paying for

the vinyl. And I could also reach out to the council or to the chamber, talk to Mary Ann about their scholarship funds, see if there's something they could do. And maybe we could get a partnership going through some of the groups. I'm still on speaking terms with the president of the AOTS. I've known her for twenty years. So I'll reach out to her. And then when I go to the next mixer next month, I'll talk to Mary Anne. I won't be there this week, but I won't be there next month.

May I add just one thing? I know it sounds like artists of the superstitions are not a good potential fit. But I just wanted to add what I neglected to say was that if we did ask them to mentor to partner, although that appears it wouldn't be viable. But I would say that I think it's very appropriate for us to always look out for the best interests of the artist. And I would never ask an artist to do something like that without a stipend, and having the stipend for participating be part of the project. So I just wanted to add that. Didn't want anyone to assume I was asking an artist to donate their time to be

part That of our stipends would have to be included then with the money, donations. Right. The donations covering. So those stipends would have to be considered and then included in the total budget for the project.

Agreed. That's my consideration. I just wanted to be super I'm

more concerned not about the money. I'm concerned about the time. Sure. Most of the and I might be wrong. I mean, if we reach out to Maddie and the AOTS group, I'll say I won't be going to their meeting tomorrow, but I will be going next month. I accompany my wife there. I'm the driver. I can reach out to them, make a presentation, see how many people would be interested. We have some great artists in that group. It's just whether they'd be interested in something like this. For my part, I'll do that. I'll reach out to the AOTS and the chamber and see if there's engage their interest.

Well, that would be a slightly different type of program. One would be having students submit artwork to be used as the artwork in the program. Another angle, I guess, would be to have artwork created in a site specific sense with or without an artist mentor. So there's kind of two components there.

I can actually see where the two could go together. If we had a mentor volunteer and we selected a student through the program you know, I'm talking multiples. And then have them help them submit the RFQ, have them help design the project, help them and mentor them. I don't think we have any artists currently in the group that are what you would call public artists. But there are some really good artists. There's some good three d artists and a lot of good two d artists. It's worth a try. Okay.

And one of things we want to watch out for doing, too, because we all did it in the beginning when the Arts Commission was formed, was we all started thinking about all these different kind of programs that we could do in our community with art. And we had to dial it back because what we decided was this commission is to actually put public art in the city. We did say that if we wanted to review what the Arts Commission did and whether or not we wanted to bring on other programs, like mentoring students or helping starving artists or doing more participatory art events, we decided that we would hold off on that, but that we could look at that again. And it's been enough years JUDGE K. We wanted to look at something like that again, and we could.

But it's really easy to get sucked down that rabbit hole of things that involve the community, that pulls us away from

our GREEN: current mission, which is getting out public art that people can interact with now. And that's one reason we have that gentleman sitting over in

the I just wanted to share that with

some of our new members.

And keep us straight when it comes to legalities and things CLARKE: like that and exceeding our scope. Between him and Rudy, they'll tell us when we're getting out of range. Yeah. Well, we handed out the public art process this evening. As long as we're

not violating our process, as long as we're expending funds where they should be expended, I think there's room for a little extra creativity on how we might be a friend to some of these different types of art promotion efforts.

Doctor. Well, with this particular project, I think we're thinking we're looking more at us as being more of a facilitator than actually being actively involved in it. Am I correct there?

Yes.

Okay. Well, let's pursue that then. Okay. Can we have an answer by next week?

How about Christmas?

How about Christmas?

You know, I would also want to be cognizant of staff time and whether or not it's realistic to whatever scope is decided would be one that staff feels that they could take on without

As undue Rudy and Erica sit down and discuss this, that will definitely come into play, how much time we're taking from them. Because I know the city is not going to let us utilize too much of their time for something like this. We'll find a way. It should be doable.

We'll find a way.

Cool.

Another thing we had talked about in the past was using a semi truck container and having it be a pop up gallery that could move around. We had seen pictures of ones before. So that might be something that we want to start to explore.

I think that's something that's going to really be out of our scope, isn't it?

Kind of reminds me of the library. It

kind of reminds you of the library van.

VAN.

I've seen in a number of different cities and actually in different countries, too, really very successful public art projects that were container art. So it was almost a roll up side pardon me, talking with my hands a roll up side that would open and close. And the exterior would be 20 fourseven public art.

And then

there would be times that it would be open, and there could be almost an exhibition inside, sometimes by the same artist, or process pictures for that, or for current art projects going on. And those were a static container, but they did have some dynamic components inside. But without a doubt, it was a public I wouldn't define it as public art.

You would define it as

public art?

I would, absolutely.

I would, too. But

Something to think of.

I'm going to have to think about

that.

Yeah. I mean, guess I would say I

do see an advantage that we would be talking putting it on city property, have it maintained by city staff. So we're talking another flagpole thing here or another display. Were you here with the famous flagpole discussions? Okay.

I think we're off the agenda. What's

there? Yeah.

I think we're off the agenda. Okay. I think we can that's something we can put on the agenda. Erica, can you put Can that put that in the agenda for next month?

Sure.

Our next meeting.

I can do that.

Thank you, Joel. Okay. Information and reports. Commission, do we have any art related news to discuss? Looks like a no. Director's report, Rudy, do you have anything to report?

None this evening, Mr. Chairman, other than I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving. And I hope everyone has a very Merry Holiday Christmas, Kwanzaa, whatever you want to call it.

Okay. So now we come to call for future agenda items. I think we just added one to Erica. Anybody else have anything they want to see us discussing in the future?

I had a couple of thoughts, but again this is because I'm new. So perhaps these things already exist. And if they do, tell me. We'll send you something on the side and deal with that. But I mentioned specific to the project for the student public art contest discussion, site selection. And I wondered if there was or if we could discuss at the next meeting an overall site selection process for our public art projects, especially if we're doing site specific. How do we decide on what sites we might choose for recommended projects and upcoming commissions?

We do have such a process. Great. That was one of the first things we developed as a public arts commission was a site map and looking at things like that. So we do have that in place Okay.

Great. If there are any ideas in terms of site criteria or how we might rank the importance of a particular site for the next or a next couple of years, something anything along that line that might help guide the process. I would like to review if it exists and or discuss perhaps if it doesn't.

Typically what we've done with that is when Rudy brings us sites, he'll bring us a site of a list of sites and we will discuss them among ourselves. And as a group, will prioritize those sites. Perfect. Then we'll go from there.

Can he pick some based on ADOT and stuff like that

things that would limit us? We've to be careful where we put them. We can't put anything on Idaho or on Highway 88 because that's state property. That's ADOT. They get all touchy. Rudy's very good at his job. He's very good at doing that for us you. Setting that job.

The other question I had also and again, this could be that I'm just because I'm new. But the collection maintenance program for the collection itself. I saw that we respect artist's rights, which is fantastic. Is there a collection maintenance plan or program? Is the collection reviewed periodically for any pieces that might be in disrepair? Or is there a process for that? Are there any upcoming during this next year that we need to consider in that budget that we have? Can we use that budget also for repair or maintenance? Or is that a separate item within the city budget?

Rudy, I think that's yours. Well,

it's within the guidelines but Erica, these pieces are supposed to last a certain amount of time if they start looking shabby.

I think she might be referring to the existing pieces that are out there, like the

They're all fairly new. The dogs, the banners, wraps, the thing at the multi gen. So the art pieces that we have in the community are still fairly new. But our guidelines with artists do cover maintenance, long term maintenance of art pieces.

Yes. So all the new public art pieces, like the dog park, the artist has to submit before final payment a maintenance plan. And at this time, my understanding is that Parks and Rec, as they're going through and taking care of the dog park, they notice if there's anything mostly just these cleaning, but they will notice if there are like scratches or whatever else. The Kachina sculpture was completely repainted in the original colors. And we have a spreadsheet that Erica has and it lists all the artworks.

And at this time, I would like to know a little bit about if they're being reviewed on a regular basis. But for the most part, cabinets are, you know, not an issue. The other vinyl projects, I don't think they're an issue. I don't think people can really get to them. So, but, yeah, for all new artworks there's going to be a maintenance plan.

I believe for the Kachina, to restore the Kachina was 7,000. I believe to restore the kachina was 7,000.

And that one actually came out of general It didn't come out of the yard budget.

Okay. That project predated the Predate

the cleaning.

That doesn't count with our

And I believe that would be the same for the older pieces as well. Is that correct, Rudy? If they need maintenance.

Yeah, the ones that go public art process.

But for the new pieces, that would come out of the ART budget.

Well, you for the discussion. I think both of those then have been touched upon. So I would probably withdraw those as future agenda items. Thank you.

Okay. Any other suggestions for future agenda items? Okay. Moving on to selection of meeting dates, times. Do we have a meeting a motion to select the next meeting date?

Monday, January 12.

Would be Monday, January 12. Is that right? Yeah. I now adjourn the meeting at Mr. Chairman, we do

need a motion and a second for the next meeting date.

Oh, okay. Who wants to second that?

We need to make a motion, right?

Yes. Yes.

I'll make a motion. I'll make that motion. Next meeting, Monday, January 12, 05:30 in the City Council Chambers.

I'll second that.

Roll call. Commissioner Cooper? Yes. Commissioner Meek? Yes. Commissioner Smithson?

Yes.

Chairman Danford. Yes. Vice Chair Klatt.

Yes.

So moved, Mr. Chairman.

Okay. I now adjourn the meeting at 06:12 and a half PM.