Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Thank you. It's 6 o'clock.

Okay, welcome everybody to the first planning commission meeting of the new year. Happy new year to everybody. Uh, it seems odd to actually take role and our new mayor doesn't take role, but Miss Watson, would you take role, please? Mills, yes. Mcomes here. Ryan Martin here. Jerretzky here.

Okay, will you please join me? Oh, and notice that we have a flag this way and this way. So you can face whichever way you would like for the pledge of allegiance and and that way. What was the third way? Oh.

Oh my. Okay. All right. I'm going this way. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thanks. Okay. Item number three are the minutes uh for 1210 2025. And um before I ask for a vote, I'm wondering if the uh commissioners would be willing to postpone that vote for a little bit. I have um a number of things that I'd like to work with Miss Watson on for those minutes and bring them back to you if that's okay with you. Or if not, um I can entertain a motion to uh approve the minutes.

Do we need to move to to table the minutes? I don't think I mean, yeah, you could have a motion, but I think if it's okay with you, we'll just postpone them for uh one meeting and then I can spend time and talk with you about a couple things. Okay. All right. Uh item number four is public comment. This is the opportunity for anybody in the vast audience to um come up to the podium, state your name and your uh uh city that you live in and address the planning commission about items that are not on the vast agenda. Is there anybody in the audience who would like to speak? Hearing none, is there anybody online? Nobody online either. So that's the end of public comments. Next are public hearings. We don't have any. So item 6A, election of officers. We have two officers to elect tonight, a chair and a vice chair. And we will do that with a nomination and a second. And I would like to start by nominating Mr. Frank Dredky for chair. Is there a second?

Madam Chairman, I second that nomination. Um, are there any other nominations for chair? Hearing none, I'm going to close those nominations. Is there any discussion? If not, all those in favor of Mr. Dretzky taking over as chair for the planning commission say I. I. I. Opposed. The eyes have it. Congratulations, Mr. Drezky. You get to take it from here tonight. Yeah. No,

you're the chair now. Um then I guess the second item is a co-chair. Do we have any nom? Not a co-chair, a vice chair. Vice chair. I'm sorry. Vice See, I'm already corrected first sentence. Vice chair. Do we have any uh candidates? Anybody like to nominate anybody for that position? Mr. Chairman, I'd like to nominate Linda Martin as vice chair. Good choice. Do we have a second? I would second that nomination. Any discussion? Any discussion? Do we again do we need to take a roll call? No, you can just All those in favor say I. I. Opposed by the same sign. It's unanimous.

The only comment I'd like to make is it's going to be very difficult to follow your footsteps, the job you've done, especially the last year and a half. Thank you. But uh we'll try. All right. Discussion of planning commission meeting day. There's been some conversation evidently that um Wednesday is not the preferred date for a couple members of the of the commission. Um it gets in the way of what activities in Everett. Is that correct?

Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I was one of the instigators of that question. Uh on my calendar, I do have 10 and probably 11 Wednesdays this year. Well, I will be out of town and in a situation where I would not be able to participate by video. Um my world won't collapse if we continue on Wednesdays, but if it makes no difference to the rest of this commission, uh I'd like to entertain doing it on a different day of the week.

Okay. Um, since that we've started that discussion, is there a day that um is preferable for for uh members or maybe a day that's not preferable? Um, are you thinking Tuesday or Thursday? Personally, any day of the week other than Wednesday night would be okay. Okay, Mr. Chair. Yes. I'd prefer Tuesday. You prefer Tuesday? Yes. Okay. Um, since Mr. Mills had no preference other than preferred not to meet on Wednesdays. Then I'd like to do we have a motion to do we need a motion and do we need to vote on changing the date?

You certainly can. I think that's probably wise. Okay. Um, and then is it is the motion effective the very next meeting that we would meet on the uh uh you might you might want to discuss that and see if that works for everybody's current schedules. Give people time to it's entirely up to you. It could be effective whenever you would like. Um or you might, you know, wait a couple of months to give um other coun members notification that things are going to be changing soon. It's up to you.

Okay. Um if we're going to make the change, I just assume have it effective I guess the 24th, which I think is two weeks from yesterday if I'm not mistaken. Is that all right with you? And I guess we'll just have to hope that uh our one absent. Mr. Chair, yes, Dr. Martin, I'd like to make a motion to move um planning commission meetings to Tuesday evenings. Um whichever Tuesday evening is convenient for staff actually. Okay. So, are we also discussing keeping it on the second and fourth week? Um, no, that wasn't the motion.

Okay. Are you are you questioning whether the staff will be ready for that that abrupt change? Well, I I think um I think it's a different topic, but I think the mayor wants us to meet only once a month. Okay.

Would you like me to weigh in? I think um I think we've uh there's been some back and forth about that. Um if the planning commission wants to meet just once a month because you know there's a lack of time like we're not going to be doing having any quasi judicial discussions anymore. So having uh meetings twice a month is less important because we're not holding up projects per se. You'll be working exclusively on uh development regulation changes plan long-term plan long range planning items comprehensive plan type things that are legislative. So those don't normally have such a quick turnaround time as the projects that you uh used to do and when you were doing quasi judicial decisions. So there's, you know, two ways we could do this. We could have it every two weeks still and cancel a bunch or we can have it once a month on presumably on the second no possibly Tuesday as you're discussing. Um, I think the mayor did like the idea of keeping it twice a month and then just cancelling ones, but uh al he also and I and I also understand you know that makes your lives more complicated as you're trying to plan around um around the uh the need to have meetings. So, I mean, you could

there's some ways around it and being like, we're we know if we're going to have a meeting, it's always going to be on the the second week of the the month and uh you know, just more or less plan to have this the one on the fourth Tuesday get cancelled. That's a little bit awkward. I understand. So, um I don't think the new ordinance or uh made made a change to that. I Let's look up in Let me make sure that the code doesn't specify um ma Mr. Chair, I was going to call you Madam Chair. Uh in the meantime, we have a motion without a second at this point and it's just for the day of the week being Tuesday.

Okay. Do we have a second for the motion meeting on Tuesdays? I second the motion. Okay. You'd like to call a roll call? Mills? Yes. Mcomes here. Martin, yes. Tretzky,

yes. Okay. So, we've uh we've settled on we're going to meet on Tuesdays. Now, the now the next question is whether it's going to be uh scheduled for twice a month or scheduled for once with special meeting calls if uh if needed. Um we'll also need to check the planning commission um rules of procedure. I have it. Uh, you have them. Does that specify twice a month? No. Um, under 3A meetings, the planning commission and city staff shall determine a regular meeting time, time, place, and frequency as necessary.

So, and I have the code uh the code enabling the planning commission right here. And it does not speak to the number of meetings per month that are it doesn't say it's required to be two months. So, um, to the best of my understanding, the planning commission can choose the number of, uh, times you meet in a month. Mr. Coleman, I I think I heard you start to say, or you did say what the mayor prefers we do, um, based on your conversations.

I don't want to speak for the mayor. Um, but I think his perspective was it was easy to easy enough to just cancel the ones that you don't have, but he did then acknowledge when the point was brought up that, you know, it makes it more challenging for you to plan around your lives. It um to do it that way. And we can always schedule additional planning commission meetings if we're in the middle of a project and we're working on something. We're like, "Yeah, let's let's" and then then the obvious one would be, you know, the fourth Tuesday of the month. Mr. Chair,

the motion that has now been approved was to be Tuesday and which Tuesday was at the discretion of staff.

Oh, I think we're good with the second Tuesdays. I I was just checking the council chambers calendar to make sure that council chambers is available and it is on the second Tuesday. Mr. Chairman, it would be possible to look at a third Tuesday. I have a standing meeting. I should not have maybe I should not have agreed to Tuesdays, but I thought I could work around it. Um but a third Tuesday would be better for me because I have standing meetings on first and second Tuesdays already. But this would be my priority if if it were the second Tuesday or the first Tuesday. Fourth.

Fourth I can do. It's the first and second I have trouble with. But third or fourth would be better for me, but I would make these meetings my priorities. I guess I'd like to see a motion for a meeting on the third Tuesdays then of uh try and work make it easier as easy as possible everybody. Mr. Chairman. Yes. I would like to make a motion that we meet on the third Tuesdays of the month as our regular meeting. Do we have a second for that? I'll second. Any discussion? I'll call for a vote. Mills, yes. Mcomes, yes. Martin,

yes. Stratsky, yes. Well, that was probably more difficult than I thought it would be, but we all survived it. Um, you might want to discuss when that goes into effect because uh we're probably not going to be able to swing that in 5 days from now or six days from now. I guess then is okay to make an executive decision and we'll do we'll meet on the third um third Tuesday of March subject to any special meetings if you have if you run into any time restraints. Yeah, which we weren't planning. So, I'm sorry. We were not planning any special meeting. Okay.

So, again, do we need to vote for meeting on the meeting? Our first meeting in the new schedule being the third Tuesday in March, which is March 17th to let everybody know. Oh, wear your green. Yeah. All right. I guess we can go out for a beer afterwards or something, but All right. Um, move on to item seven. Planning Department update. So, uh, that's effective March 17th. Yep. Yes, sir. And ladies, Mr. Chair, and we're keeping the time 6 p.m. 6 o'clock.

Okay. All right. So, it's been a little while since we've been together and some things have happened. So, uh we thought we'd give you a kind of a a formal presentation of uh the PCD PCED department update. All right. So, one of the last things that you had worked on in uh December was the 17th Street Cottages. Or was that even No, that might have been in November. No,

that was December or

Oh, yeah. It was It was in December. It's right here on the screen. In December of 2025, you looked at a uh unit lot subdivision on 17th Street and uh that well didn't go right to the planning didn't go right to the city council because it was being timed with a vacation ordinance. There was a on the larger piece of property there was a um piece of uh alley right ofway that had been unopened. So it was just uh bare land. There was no actual alley or utilities in there. And as part of that project, you probably remember there was a vacation uh request. So those uh the timing of the vacation request required that it had a one-mon lead time when they set the set the date for the ordinance hearing. And so that was in February. So that's why this project didn't come to the city council until the um till Monday night and which at which time they had the vacation ordinance and approved the vacated rideway in the unopened alleyway. And then um they went on to hear the closed record hearing for the um for the unit lot subdivision itself and approved it. So that one is been approved and now it's just in the developers hands to submit the construction permits and get rolling. So that's that one. Any questions about that? Um, so that's it for the quasi judicial decisions that you that the planning commission worked on. We won't be seeing any more of those here. So, we'll be working more on things like legislative

project updates. So, um, we did meet in December, but I we couldn't recall if the the comp plan had yet been adopted, but of course it has, and I'm sure you all are well aware, but the comprehensive plan itself was adopted in ordinance 5013 and then the development regulations were adopted with ordinance 5014 on December 15th of 2025. they went into effect on the new year, which means uh you know now all those housing changes that you made recommendations for, including the ADU changes that we were required to make by the state, all went into effect on January 1st. All of those went into effect uh and the comprehensive plan is adopted and in place. We did receive uh an appeal to the growth management hearings board of the comprehensive plan and development regulations and uh so that's making its way through the growth management's hearings board. But the regulations are in place in the meantime until proven otherwise. Um, not a lot to report on that. We're just kind of getting dates set for all of that. And we had a prehering and just uh getting all our ducks in a row. Of course, uh, it was appealed by um, Ian Muntz. Any questions about any of that? All right. So, what's coming up for the planning commission as far as legislative project updates? Well, you already knew we're working on the critical areas regulations update. That's due at the end of the year. Um,

we last year had started later in the year started working on the best available science review as part of the critical areas ordinance. What you need to do is uh when you do an update, you re you uh review all of the science that has come out since the last update to see if anything has changed. So any of the background science about critical areas such as wetlands or if there's new um new science and industry standards based on science that um affect wetland buffers for example or um buffers on streams. So we're we're completing our review of the best available science to see if there's been significant changes. Um once we get through that, we'll uh make some draft amendments and bring them to the planning commission for year review and recommendation. I don't anticipate that's going to be like we just drop it off one day and say here's a list, check it out and let us and make a decision today. I think we'll probably go through it a little bit more methodically. Um, and we're still, you know, figuring out the scope of the changes that are necessary. So, I can't really speak eloquently about what you can expect yet. Uh, and as noted here, it needs to be done by the end of the year. Any questions about the critical areas ordinance update? Great. We'll move into the shoreline master program periodic update. So uh this was uh previously worked on by the planning commission in 2019 18 and 19 maybe later. Yeah, it was um I think we started in 2019

and then COVID happened and so it got a little bit stretched out and uh planning commission recommended approval of the amendments to council in 2022. Um and then adoption has been delayed since then.

Was there appeals that we had to sort out? There were appeals of the um critical areas regulations updates that for the last periodic review. Um and so those were related in part to uh critical areas regulations that were going to be adopted as part of the shoreline master program updates. And so they were kind of tied in together. So yes, that um caused us to delay adoption. And then of course we had to jump into the 2025 periodic update cycle which um delayed things again. Uh so we're going to refresh the planning commission on what was done already and uh where everything is and hopefully this can move through a little bit quicker because most of the work was done. Um, but we have a whole new crew of planning commission members. So, we're not going to not going to say here, just tell us tell us this is okay and we're going to move along. We'll we'll make sure to get meaningful feedback. Um, and then uh the similar process is once you make a recommendation, it goes to city council, the department of ecology for uh shoreline master program updates. uh the this procedural steps are a little bit different but more or less the same. There there's some touch points that we have to bring ecology in a after we get uh some preliminary approvals and before we get adopt before we can formally adopt at the city council level. So it's a little bit different than the growth management stuff, but we'll we'll we'll certainly walk you through it. and any questions about the Shoreline Master program periodic update that you'll be working on in 2026.

All right. And then uh further development regulation amendments. So, we're planning that we're going to have some cleanup housekeeping uh things possibly related to the comp plan uh development rag updates that you know might have been missed or um if we if we discover that there's any uh inconsistencies after the changes that were you know missed since it was a large update. um make sure that all of our if we come across anything that um we we definitely reviewed all of our comprehensive all of our development regulations when we adopted the other development regulations but um in the off chance that there's something that is now a little bit inconsistent or confusing because of the changes we'd bring those to you. Um there's still some state legislative mandates that we need to uh address including lot splitting as a uh state regulation to make it easier to do lot splitting. Uh similarly for unit lot subdivisions. Uh so these are some changes that the state made to make it easier to split lots and do and do unit lot subdivisions. And if there's anything else that um any other state ones that come across legislature this year and any ones that we're just forgetting at the at the moment, there's always stuff happening at the state legislature. And if we have time this year, uh we have uh several city-owned properties that are not zoned public. there's zoned various other things doesn't really cause too many

troubles. Um we did see some troubles with the library. So if you recall we reszoned well the the Carnegie Library I should say uh we reszoned the uh which is the museum uh to to make sure that it can continue to be used as a museum. So, we're going to look at doing that with some other city properties if if we have time this year. All right. Any questions about any of the sort of odds and ends stuff that we're going to be working on this year? All right. Um and then um there is a annual docket cycle. So every year people get to request to make comprehensive plan amendments or zoning changes once a year. Uh we have put notice out that that is available for people to make those requests and they need to be submitted by the end of March. If we receive any uh then it will go through the the the docketing process at the city council and if any of if the council chooses to put anything on the docket then it would come to the likely come to the planning commission for review. uh the year after a major update. It's a, you know, not common to see because, you know, we've just made so many updates and we're um so but we'll see. Maybe maybe something comes our way. Maybe not.

Mr. Chair, Dr. Martin, just a quick question. I I remember the last year during the um docketing process there was comments about the cost to put something on the docket. Can you talk a little bit about that? So if something I believe that it actually says if if it gets docketed you there is a fee. um where there's there's a initial fee and then if it is docketed then the rest of the fee is is payable.

And is it thousands of dollars just to be for the initial 1,800 total? Yes, I believe so. Somewhere around there. I'm sorry I don't know the exact That's okay. Just I would just remember that that was an issue that was brought up numerous times. So $1,800 just to present it to be put on the docket.

No, it's a lesser amount to be submitted. you know, that covers administrative costs because anything anytime they do that now, um, you know, we're staff is doing work to bring it to council and it, you know, it's not just Libby or I doing stuff, it's it's other departments and there there's fair amount of work to be done and then if it ends up on the docket, then we're talking about public hearings and convening planning commission and so that's where that fee originally came from, although it predates my time at the city. Thank you,

Mr. Coleman. Just a point of clarification or I guess so this would be the process that if someone had a had something that they wanted to reszone, say that the example I would use would be the Sixth Street uh community wanted wanted to look at some like a special zone. This would they would do that through the docket process. That would Yes, that'd be the appropriate way to do that. Yeah, that's right. And there there was some discussion of them doing that this year, though, but we'll see if they do. Okay.

All right. Moving on. Um, you know, we were talking about legislative items related to the the comprehensive plan. And I'm presenting these not because they're coming to the planning commission, but because they're an an outgrowth of the planning commission's work. So, um after we updated the comp plan and um we're still completing the studies uh to make sure that we have the the um a plan, a sewer plan, a water plan, and a storm water plan that addresses our 20-year growth projection. and making sure that all of those are um addressed in how we're going to accommodate the projected growth. Related to that is then impact fees. So we collect impact fees for fire and parks and transportation. Uh so we're doing fire parks and transportation impact fee analysis to see if our you know the the the projects that are needed to address future growth are going to you know how much is that going to cost to do. And then impact fees will be based on um the projected number of units or amount of buildings or um there's a lot of factors that in the um state law requires that you follow certain methodologies and only consider certain things in project in projects that are associated reasonably associated with projected growth. So it doesn't the impact fees don't address deficiencies in systems. They're they're intended to pay for new

growth. And so we're doing all the new calculations based on changes to state laws and changes to our population and jobs traffic projections and uh adjusting those as necessary. And then those will go to city council. They do have the opportunity then, you know, say if it's going to be like for a new single family home, it's going to be $20,000 to address the impacts of each new home. Um, you know, that might be a little higher than what city council would be willing to to charge people. So, they do have the ability to reduce that.

Mr. Dretzky, sorry, another qu another question. In my former life, um, impact fees also, um, directly impacted school districts. And I don't know if there's any kind of, um, partnership with the local school district. I know I was involved in building a school that uh the property was given to us because of impact fees because a big development was going in. So it it what about that?

So schools do have the school district does have the ability to charge impact fees. We would just collect it.

Um we generally um use the school's calculations. uh so they have to show that their you know their new enrollment projections are driving a need for new capital facilities. They have not elected to do that. Um, and you know, considering I don't think our our uh school district's population growth, um, well, I say should say their student body growth is anticipated to grow by a lot. So, um, it would be a lot of work to create impact fees and maybe not collect a lot of money because they're not projected to grow a lot. But I we haven't had a discussion with the school anybody at the school district about are do they plan to implement school impact fees.

Thank you

Mr. Chairman. Yes. Uh impact fees are of particular interest to me and back when we were reviewing the comp plan update. I asked the question about whether uh impact fees are charged currently to ADUs and as I recall the answer was most of them or all of them were not uh applied to ADUs. uh as part of this review process, I would like to have that question raised as to whether or not uh consideration should be given to uh including that in the denominator when going through the math of impact fees.

I think the planning commission put that in their findings of fact and so the city council is a aware and we'll certainly remind them as we go through the process with them. Thank you. All right, not hearing any more questions, so I'll move on. Uh, coming full circle to the planning commission members. bill. You probably have already seen resolution 3203, which is the resolution that the city council passed um not last meeting, but the previous meeting that reestablished the the four uh the terms for the planning commission. So when we switched from six-year terms to four-year terms, that kind of we had to we had to reassign the all the planning commissioners into those slots. And so they also we we changed the code to have um we still need to have them staggered. That way we don't have more than two leaving on any given year. Um, so that uh established a a one one one-year term because it was kind of a remainder of when you do the math when you have seven um when you have uh seven to fill. Um we had two two-year terms, two three-year terms, and two four-year terms. um you the planning commission self- selected where they would like to be in there and fortunately there wasn't a lot of fighting amongst the planning commissioners. It seemed to fall in

pretty nicely which was very nice on staff. Thank you. Uh and as a reminder Michael Mills uh term started February 2nd of 2026 and will end on February 1st of 2027. So he'll be serving the one-year term. Uh William Mcomes started on that same date and will end uh February 1, 2028. So that's one of the two-year terms. Uh Paul Ryan is also in one of those two-year terms. Uh we have uh according to this there is the uh skipped over a couple of vacancies uh because we haven't appointed anybody yet uh and went to uh four-year terms and so that would be ending on February 1st, 2030 for Frank Geretszky and Linda Martin. And they had just re-uped. So, they technically had like over five years left on their terms uh when we when we started this process. So, um they get a one-year reprieve actually. We wanted to do this before we selected the new planning commission members because we wanted to give you the opportunity to self- select first of all and um and it just made sense to take care of this and and then know okay we're going to have four-year terms uh and be able to communicate that with applicants. So now what we're telling applicants is that they are filling a three a vacant three-year term. So, they will all be all of the people that apply will be put into a three-year term. Their terms will end um in 20 uh February of 2029. All nice and neat. And we are still accepting applications

for the time being and uh hoping to be scheduling interviews with the uh the the between the mayor and the applicant for the people that we have received applications from but but is still open. And now we can update our website saying the meetings will be on the third Tuesday of every month. Mr. Chairman. Yes, Dr. Mills. Dr. Martin. Sorry, Dr. Mills.

You're going to have to go ahead and make a comment, Dr. Martin. Um so our rules of procedure uh say that we have six-year terms and they also say that in order to change the rules of procedure we need a super majority of six in order to change these rules of procedure. So I don't know how to handle that little glitch. Well, it may make sense for once we have the planning new planning commission members assigned maybe not on their first day but maybe on their second meeting uh review the rules of procedure just to update it since there's a unique change and you know then you'll have the opportunity opportunity to make any other changes that you might want to which it's pretty new so I don't know that you would want to, but it would be your option.

I guess my question to all of you is, are you guys is is everybody going to vote for a max of four-year terms rather than the old six-year terms? Is there anybody going to complain about that? I think I think we're on track. Any other question? Any other questions about that? Well, cruising right along. Just about done here. Uh, I just wanted to put in a plugin for our downtown streetscapes project. I'm sure all of you are well aware that we're doing a a planning project to look at uh how we want our downtown streetscape to look and some other factors along with that including connection to the waterfront. And a uh one of the things that the that the consultants working on this project have envisioned is a circular walking route that goes basically from Cap Santa um east west across downtown on 9th I believe out to um the library and the museum and then going north a couple of blocks and coming back into the town I believe on 6th. Um that's just a proposal, but people seem to like that. It would be kind of a a light lift, you know, like adding signage and being like, "Hey, you're in town. Do this little one and a half mile. Well, it's probably more like a two-mile loop walk and uh see some interesting things." And so it'd be like side sign signage, maybe some sidewalk improvements here and there. and um

seems like a pretty good idea and people have been accepting of it. So maybe something like that will get implemented. We're not uh we're not proposing to do any of the things that are come out of this. We'd like to. So there'll still be some I think you know city council choosing which projects they're going to be able to fund and you know the the loop walk won't really cost much. So, you know, I could see something like that, for example, being an easy one to get done pretty quick, but uh implementing some of the easier stuff at first and then working towards doing some of the more ambitious things and finding funding. Is it Boston that has yellow footsteps in their walking area?

The freedom, but it's it's it's yellow or orange foot steps on that whole loop, I think. They might I It's been It's been 30 years maybe, but I I think when I did it, they might have been brass. Um but I imagine people steal that. I don't know if it was brass. I think it's a lot cheaper. A very vague recollection, but yeah, I did. Uh I definitely was my first time visiting there by myself. Uh learned about that trail and like, oh yeah, I'll follow that. Great. So, um, maybe it'll be helpful for us to do something similar. Maybe we can do brass.

Thank you, Mr. Gman. So, here's the here's the information on the survey. It's uh the survey is more or less the same as what the survey was at the at the openhouse that you were doing on your phone or by paper, but it's in a Survey Monkey style. And that's it. That's the end. Sort of. Not really. We'll just keep doing this every every third Tuesday. Any other comments or questions from my co- council members? I commission members.

Mr. Chair, I I hate I apologize for the buffoonery and I I hate that I'm even going to bring this up, but I checked my calendar. The meeting that that was a conflict is actually on the third Tuesday. So if it's not too late, I would like to make a motion that we would meet regularly on second Tuesdays and miss um St. Patrick's Day here. That would that would deconlict with St. Patrick's Day next month. So that that would be a bonus. Well, I certainly don't have any issue with bumping it up to the second Tuesday of uh of the month. Anybody have any issues there? Do we need another motion to change that?

Since you changed the date, I think you need to make that motion. Thought you didn't make the motion. I I move that we schedule the regular planning commission meetings on the second Tuesday in spite of what we may have discussed earlier this week. Okay. Do I have a second? Second. And I guess I should ask Mr. Coleman and staff, is that going to be any issues for you? You guys already gone through and written. That makes it a little easier to be honest with you. Third third Tuesday was a little mentally a little tricky, but second Tuesday, I don't know. That makes a lot of sense.

Okay. Uh, in that case, we've got a we've got a motion for a revision to our meeting date to the second Tuesday of each month starting in March, which must be March 10th or so. The 17th was the 3rd. Uh, do you want to take role? Take the role, please. Mills. Yes. Mcomes. Yes. Martin. Yes. But I'd really like a paper ballot. Okay, Mr. Chair, one more motion. I would move that we excuse Mr. Ryan from tonight's meeting. Second.

Uh we I think we just take a voice vote. All in favor of that request? Yes. Opposed? by the same sign. That motion carries. Our first meeting of the of the year ends at uh 6:47. Thank you for your attendance and all the people in the audience. Thank you.