City Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, January 27, 2026

The Amarillo City Council met to discuss several key issues, including the rezoning of two large tracts of land for residential development, a request for alcohol sales at a sports facility, and the approval of a construction manager for two major drainage projects. The council also addressed public concerns regarding pool closures and financial transparency.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Council
Meeting Type
City Council
Location
Amarillo, TX
Meeting Date
January 27, 2026

Transcript

191 sections (from 542 segments)

2:16 – 2:48Speaker 1

You got me now. All right. Thank you. Pursuant to the text open meetings act to close session, the Amiral city council was announced on January 27th, 2026 at 12:02 p.m. under the following authority section 551.071, consult with an attorney on a matter in which the attorney's duty to the governmental body under the Texas disciplinary rules of professional conduct conflicts with the chapter uh and 074 discuss the appointment employment evaluation duties of a public officer employee. Thank you. Thank you, sir.

3:00:46 – 3:01:25Speaker 1

Well, good good afternoon. Um, thank you for attending your regular council meeting here today. We are um off to a fast start today. Ready to get some more business done here. I appreciate everyone for attending. will officially call ourselves uh back into session and move into our working part of the agenda. Um Mr. City Manager, I know you and I had talked over the weekend about maybe what had taken place with some of our local heroes. Do we have everything set up and and ready for that acknowledgement here today? Donnie, do you have anything?

3:01:23 – 3:02:14Speaker 1

Well, so what we what we would rather do is do that at a at the next meeting if we could? And here's why. We still have people that are out working working water leaks and uh we would rather have an opportunity for some of them to come and be recognized. Uh but I will tell you this uh we we were so proud and I know you were too in our conversation we had of the work that was done during the winter storm. You know we had over 90 employees from uh water department whether that's water distribution wastewater treatment plant water treatment plants fixing leaks. I think they're on I think they're up to 38 of those now. We have 80 employees that were addressing street issues that were out there and I think they just all did a fantastic job. But what we'd rather do, if you don't mind, mayor, is compile some statistics, get some true numbers when we're finished with everything, bring them back to the next meeting when they actually can be here so we can recognize them.

3:02:11 – 3:03:18Speaker 1

We definitely don't mind and and we look forward to being able to acknowledge that work. And I'd like to say um it's not just us that are that are up here. It's the citizens. And I appreciate everyone for taking your time to email me, message me, and show it's 2:00 in the morning and it's in your alley that there's a city truck. It's negative -10°ree windchill and they are fixing a live water mane leak. Um, sometimes they can't even find the valve to turn it off, right? And so the amount of uh I'd say local hero that goes into that. I know we brag on our our uh blue. We back the blue. We love our our law enforcement, our first responders, our firemen. Man, we love those city servants that that constantly are putting in those late hours and and contractors as well. Um as a fellow contractor, I know how hard it is to to get out there and go to work when you don't want to. So, we sincerely appreciate that community that we get to live around and that you get to lead and we look forward to that acknowledgement. So, thank you, Mr. Hooper.

3:03:17 – 3:04:14Speaker 1

Thank you, Mayor. I'll add one more thing to that. One of the things I thought was very impressive about this event is that we have call in or call out people that we call and say, "Hey, we need you to come in. We need you to respond." The number of people that did not respond was very, very minimal. And that's maybe one of the first times we've seen that. And then and then on a handshake tour going around and kind of going to the different sites to visit with different people while they were out there, the thing that I encountered the most was that I would get there and they were gone. And I would say, "Well, where did they go?" And I'd call William and I'd say, "Where are they at?" "Well, they've already moved on to this other one." It was hard to catch them because they were working so fast uh and the cooperative nature between the different departments. We had other departments coming to back fill for them so they could move on and go to another area. and just watching the way the directors work and the way they manage this event was just really really really a pleasure to watch. So, I can't wait to present that information in detail to you guys and get to brag about our our people because they did do a a fantastic job.

3:04:11 – 3:06:11Speaker 1

Thank you for saying that. Um, we have some furry friends that uh weren't left outside because we we have a community that cares for animals as well and that was spun up over the weekend with the extreme cold temperatures. And then we also have some unhoused uh members of our community. And so that was taking place very very well uh as well and in getting people shelter. So um sincere gratitude and a thank you uh to everyone who pulled together over the weekend. We'll get into our ceremonial items at this point in time. Would you guys welcome uh Pastor Margie Gonzalez as she leads the invocation. Please stand and then we'll do the pledges. Lord, today we're so thankful for the great city of Amarillo. We're thankful for your hand upon us. Lord God, we're thankful for your blessings. Lord, we're thankful, Lord, for a team of employees and servants, Lord God, that just came together to take care of our city during this winter storm. Lord, we thank you today for our leadership, God. We're asking, Lord, that you would just bless the proceedings here, God. We're asking, Lord, that you would cause every item on the agenda, Lord, to be executed in a way that glorifies you, Lord. That it would be executed in a way that brings honor and glory to your name, Lord. That there would that every word would be spoken, Lord, with grace and with decorum and with honor and with respect. Lord, we pray today as I always pray when I'm here, Lord, that it would be your agenda that would prevail, Lord God. not any man's agenda, but the agenda of heaven, Lord, that it would be your kingdom come and your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven. Lord, today we pray for our leadership. We ask you to clothe them, Lord, in wisdom, to clothe them in strength, to clothe them in humility and in integrity, God, and in grace, Lord, to do the thing that you have called them for, Lord. In the book of Deuteronomy, you say, Lord, that as

3:06:09 – 3:06:57Speaker 1

your days are, so shall your strength be, Lord. So there's not one here that isn't here by divine assignment, Lord. All authority comes from you, God. And so Lord, today, would you help us to honor that authority, support that authority, Lord, and would you also help our leadership to remember that we serve first and we lead second? Lord God, we just pray your blessings over each one, Lord, as they take care of the city's business. Lord, would you take care of their business at home, their families, their businesses, their children, their marriages, Lord. Lord, we love you and we thank you again for a city that allows us to pray to start every meeting, Lord. And we commit these proceedings to come, Lord. We commit them to you and ask you to be glorified in Jesus mighty name. Amen.

3:06:54 – 3:07:25Speaker 1

Amen. Thank you, pastor. You'll join me in the pledge. I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. And the Texas flag. Honor the Texas flag. I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible.

3:07:24 – 3:07:46Speaker 1

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Please be seated. It's an official call to order as we have a quorum and we will continue with uh any announcements. Do we have any further announcements here today? Moving on to item four is our public comment period. Miss city secretary, if you'll call us into that. Thank you.

3:07:44 – 3:09:26Speaker 1

Thank you, Mayor Stanley. Thank you for participating in today's city council meeting. Your input and your opinions are important to us and we're glad that you're here to share them today. At each posted meeting, we invite our fellow community members to address city council regarding posted agenda items or topics related to city policy. During public comment and any public hearings today, each speaker will have three minutes to address the council. At the end of two and a half minutes, a warning beep will sound to alert you that you have 30 seconds left to wrap up your thoughts. We do have multiple public hearings today. If you're here to speak on an item with a public hearing, we would ask you to make comments on that item either during the public hearing or during public comment, but not both. In order to help us keep accurate minutes, it is your decision at which point you would like to speak. When you come to the microphone today, please state your name and whether or not you live within Amarillo city limits. If you are speaking to an item not on today's agenda, the Texas Open Meetings Act limits how our elected officials may respond. Council may respond with a statement of fact. They may be asked that your topic be added to a future agenda or they may refer the matter to the city manager who can have staff step out and visit with you. Again, thank you for being here today. We will utilize both podiums during public comment. We are going to start today with Kristen Straoud and while Miss Strad gives comments on deck will be Craig Galtier. You can go ahead and come on up. Um, council, before Miss Straoud begins, you will have a handout that looks blue like this right here at your place that she provided for her public comments. Okay, you can begin.

3:09:24 – 3:11:22Speaker 1

Good afternoon, Mayor Stanley and council members. My name is Kristen Straoud and I serve as regional vice president of business development for sports facilities companies. I'm a resident of Amarillo. I live inside the city limits and I'm here today to request your support for reszoning the Emerald Netlex. The Netplex is a 62,000 square foot sports and event center, a hub of energy, enthusiasm, and excitement for our community. Our multi-purpose space includes adaptable courts for volleyball, basketball, pickle ball, football, private party space, food and beverage sales, and a pickle ball pro shop powered by Pickle Ball Central. Designed to serve competitive athletes, recreational players, and our community of senior citizens, the Netflix also hosts corporate meetings, conference popup, excuse me, conferences, pop-up vendor markets, and social gatherings. Beyond providing premier facilities, we're focused on building community through recreational sports. Across the country, we've seen how the postgame experience transforms recreational venues into gathering places where friendships are forged. When adults finish playing a game, having the option to stay, grab a beer, and connect with fellow players creates the kind of social bonds that make communities thrive. I want to address the elephant in the room. Concerns about alcohol service in the youth sports environment. We hear you and we share your concerns. This is why responsible moderation is at the core of our plan. This isn't about creating a bar that happens to have sports courts. It's about offering a responsible adult amenity that enhances the social experience while maintaining the family-friendly atmosphere that makes the Netflix special. Importantly, the Emerald Netlex will have the ability

3:11:18 – 3:12:41Speaker 1

to choose when and how we serve alcohol. We hold the key to the tap. We have complete flexibility not to serve at all depending on the event situation or youth programming. This means UIL events, youth tournaments, family events, church gatherings or any other event where alcohol service would be inappropriate. It can proceed without any alcohol presence whatsoever. The discretion allows us to tailor our service to each um event's specific needs and audience. Alcohol sales or not, Emerald Netlex maintains a zero tolerance policy for individual behavior whose whose individuals whose behavior is not in line with community standards, including any abuse directed at officials, parents, players, or Netflix team members. We are committed to maintaining a respectful and safe environment for all members. It's worth noting that TABC has already granted a license to serve alcohol at this location. However, due to current zoning limitations and the addition of our new tenant, San Jose Mexican Restaurant, Emerald Emplex opted to abandon that license in favor of San Jose. We're now seeking the proper zoning to allow both businesses to serve responsibly within that footprint. Appreciate your consideration and welcome any questions.

3:12:38 – 3:12:50Speaker 1

Thank you, Mrs. TR. Our next speaker that may come up to the empty podium is Tim Benson. And Mr. Galtier, you may begin.

3:12:47 – 3:14:46Speaker 1

Thank you. U let me also echo what an excellent job all the city employees did on the uh storm. Uh I I did notice that your snow plows are actually running the pre look like they were out doing some practice runs beforehand and I I commend the leadership uh of the city staff of what they've been able to accomplish over the storm. So, thank you. Uh uh what I'm here to speak about is obviously the the swimming pools. Uh I guess uh I think a lot of people's perception is that maybe since there's a video made that maybe Mr. Simpson's mind's already been made up listening to some of the comments that Mr. Prescott made in regards to safety, his mind is already made up. Uh I would have just asked both of especially you two gentlemen that you know we shouldn't lop off 50 years of having a pool just so quickly. Uh I don't think both of you guys are very accomplished businessmen as all of y'all are. Uh I don't think any of y'all would ever make those kind of decisions so quickly on your assets. Uh and I expect you not to make the same quick judgments on our assets. And I know you're going to say, "Well, this has been studied and this has been studied over and over and talked about," but it really hasn't. What I'm speaking to is if you're going to study the Southeast pool to let contractors go out there and look at it and and maybe see how what the real costs are going to be, then why can't we have that same evaluation at the Southwest pool? You know, they had just under 10,000 visits. So did the souththeast pool. And that's with three premier pools in that exact same area. That tells you there's a need out there. Regardless of what you think it is, I just think it would be fair and balanced, if you will, is that if you're going to study the Southeast pool, why can't we do the same thing with the Southwest pool? Let's have call on the

3:14:44 – 3:15:55Speaker 1

city talent of contractors to go out there and look at that. I mean, I Mr. Stanley's uh in that business. A lot of those things you had to notice. There's no way it would cost that much. I mean, your common sense tells you that. So, let's go. Please allow it to be instead of just closing it today, you're going to evaluate a full year. You know, it's going to be you've already closed Southeast Pool, you said for the rest of the year. So, why not take that same evaluation time that you're going to evaluate Southeast Pool, do the same thing for Southwest. You may actually find out like it's going to be it's going to say exactly the same thing that the city staff has been saying. It will cost you $2 million to fix it. Okay. Well, that just that gives you backup that when a citizens comes to you and says, "Why'd you close Southwest Pool?" Well, these are the reasons. You don't have those reasons now. So, all I do is ask you to please use common sense. This is our tax money as it is yours. We have a right to be let it be evaluated properly before we just lop this off. Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir.

3:15:54Speaker 1

Okay, Tim, you may begin.

3:15:55 – 3:16:56Speaker 1

All right. Hey guys, thanks for thanks for putting the check registry on the agenda today. Uh, first thing that I'd like to talk about this that I I looked at it and I don't see it on there. I don't see the financial agency related transactions slash AEDC. I don't see the transactions that they have on there. I don't see the deposits. I don't see the wire transfers. I don't see the deposits and credits of grant money. That stuff needs to be on there. It's it's it's public money. It should be on there. And so, can you write that down and give me an answer on that sometime? Uh, back to the Netflix thing. You know, my comment to that is is when you have a daycare, a church, and volleyball They don't mix with alcohol. That's what you guys need to really consider. Those three things don't mix with alcohol. Thanks for your time.

3:16:56 – 3:17:21Speaker 1

Mayor, that concludes everybody that signed up today. Thank you, Miss City Secretary. Do we have anyone else here who would like to speak? Okay. Would you guys mind um you can go ahead and speak, Mr. Fischer, and then afterwards, will you fill that out and then um Mr. Darren, do you mind signing in? That way we can keep a record of it. You'll go next.

3:17:19 – 3:17:51Speaker 1

All right. My name is Mike Fischer. I live in the city limits of Amarillo. I think I found the money for you guys to keep those pools open. And it's it's that 500,000 you're spending on Emma. Emma is the bot that's on our website for those of you that don't know. It's pretty she's pretty useless. Um, if you if you go just go ask her anything. I asked her, "When is the next city council meeting?" Let's hear her answer.

3:17:52 – 3:18:14Speaker 1

You can find the schedule for upcoming Amarillo City Council meetings, including dates, agendas, and minutes by visiting the city council meetings page on this website. Regular meetings are held the second and fourth Tuesdays of each month in the council chamber on the third floor of city hall at 623 South Johnson Street.

3:18:11 – 3:18:47Speaker 1

Okay. Now, let's look at chat GPT, which is free. And if you guys chose to use chat GPT, I've already asked it what would it cost for a city our size, and it said approximately 50,000. So, let's hear what chat GPT says when I ask the same exact question. Tuesday, January 27th, 2026 at 12 p.m. CST. Amarillo City Council regular meeting location Amarillo City Hall Council Chamber 623S Johnson's third floor Amarillo TX79101.

3:18:44 – 3:19:41Speaker 1

If you notice, she gave the exact exact date and time. Emma gave us a generalization. What good does that do? That does nothing for anyone. She didn't even give a link like click on this link. Um I I I did the math. 450,000 if you if you decided to go with chat GPT. You can integrate chat GPT into the website for that 50k. And uh if you decided not to just let everybody use chat GPT and on their own, but if you save that 450K, you can service somewhere between five and 8 million in debt. So that would easily cover keeping both of those pools open. And there there's your simple fix. And so somebody said two million to fix one. Well, there you go. Thanks for your time.

3:19:35Speaker 1

Appreciate you, Mr. Fischer. Mr. Adair.

3:19:42 – 3:20:44Speaker 1

Yeah, I was going to talk about the pools also because as of recently we have seen um a lot of stuff. Bies got millions in tax abatements. Um Adabberry Land south of town got tax abatements. Just recently we did the hotel um Harrington Hotel for what 900,000 in tax abatements. And now we're sitting here talking about closing pools and wondering why we don't have the money to keep them open. And I think a lot of it's because of all these tax abatements. In a lot of ways, we're cutting our throats on those and not having having the taxes come in so that we'll have the money to take care of everything that we need to take care of on down the road. Um, I wanted to say that and that's that on the polls. Thank you.

3:20:42 – 3:21:09Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Adair. Do I have anyone else here who would like to give public comment before we move forward with the rest of the business meeting? Who did you see? Oh, yes. If you'll come forward. So, if you don't mind, if you'll state your name for the record, and then after speaking, if you'll go fill it out over there, we'll make sure we keep a good public record. Okay. Lower that microphone down to you if you would, ma'am.

3:21:07 – 3:23:05Speaker 1

All right. So, my name is Katie Alexander and I am an Amarillo City residence and I wanted to speak on the Netflix and on the pools. Uh, I think that they kind of coincide. Um, she had spoke about building community, about having a drink after a game, which is great. I totally I think that sounds nice. But as a parent and as a kid, as a parent that has kids that play in Kids, Inc., and just seeing what issues we've had with Kids Inc. adults not behaving the way that they should. And this is without alcohol involved. And we're now having to pay, you know, extra money for security at these games. And it's made the cost of something that used to be a affordable sport option for Amarillo into something that's costing us over $100 for each kid every time we want to play a sport. And so I don't think that al adding alcohol into the mix is going to do anything positive. I think it's only going to add more emotions and they're not always happy emotions. Uh a victory beer is nice, but you know when you lose sometimes there's a different side that comes out. And so with that being said, um the pools that does create a sense of community that is a place for these families to go and to spend time without having to spend, you know, I mean, even maybe $10 to get inside of the pool and to be able to spend hours with friends, meeting people. And I think that that's the more direction that we need to be going towards when

3:23:03 – 3:23:44Speaker 1

we're trying to build community. I don't think that adding alcohol is going to be a beneficial thing to anything and especially with the daycare there. Um, I mean, again, as a parent, I would feel very uneasy knowing that, you know, even though there is control of when the alcohol is can be served, it's just using that discretion and making sure that that's going to be used with the best intent. And so, that's all I wanted to say. Thank you, ma'am. If you don't mind, if you'll step right over here with Miss Stephanie, she'll get you filled out. Thank you.

3:23:41 – 3:24:15Speaker 1

Thank you. I saw another hand. Who did we have that was next to you? Did we have one other person that wanted to speak? Okay. Uh at this time, we'll close public comment. We'll move forward with the rest of the uh working session. Um we have our consent agenda, and I believe I have a few items that may need to come off of that. Uh council, is there anything you'd like to pull on the consent agenda? Council. Yes, Mayor. I'd like to pull uh 5.4 off the consent.

3:24:10 – 3:24:38Speaker 1

5.4 Four is the pool item that's before us. We will pull that. Do I have anything else that needs to come off council? Would entertain a motion on the remaining consent agenda. So moved. Second. I have a motion and a second from place two. All in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed?

3:24:35 – 3:25:00Speaker 1

Motion passes. Let's take up item 5.4 for uh potential resolution. This is our second and final reading. So, we have already voted on this once. Um doesn't mean that we cannot redirect it. So, I would go ahead and ask Councilman Reid if you wanted to lead us into this conversation and then we'll we'll draw staff in.

3:24:56 – 3:26:22Speaker 1

Yeah. I after uh our last council meeting in the couple weeks uh leading up to this and rethinking what we've done um to permanently close Southwest Pool and do a study on Southeast Pool um really doesn't make sense. uh the numbers uh and I don't like to use those numbers because they really don't tell us much given uh some things that are going on uh because of the pools the conditions but I think we should take some time to actually do uh an evaluation of po both pools but also if we're if the plan is to close any of them one or both of them is what what is the plan of replacement? Are we looking at one complex? Um because it is a it's a quality of life issue that I think is important to our community and I think the community needs to to weigh in on that and we need to listen to what what they want as opposed to maybe what we want or what staff is seeing. And I appreciate the work that staff has done. Um, but I think it's time to bring uh somebody in that uh understands what what we're up against um and whether or not they're they're fixable, replaceable, or where we go with it.

3:26:20 – 3:26:36Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. Councilman Tips. Yeah. Can Donnie, can I add to that? Can we get a a number on demo on those? like what's it going to take to demo to fill those things full of dirt or remove the like what's it going to take to level those things out to make it usable?

3:26:35 – 3:27:19Speaker 1

Sure. Yeah, we could do that. And I think uh to address what Councilman Reed was talking about, it wouldn't wouldn't be any uh different for us to to build that as a full package to not only do an evaluation of both pools, but also even look at our feasibility study that we originally had brought, you know, previously. uh engage that as well where you have a plan, see what the community's uh what the feasibility is, what the what the desires and needs are of the community as well. So, I think I think we could entertain that if that's what the council would have us do. Thank you, Councilman. I make a motion that we uh look at both Southwest and Southeast pools and do a feasibility study on both of those those properties.

3:27:15 – 3:27:50Speaker 1

Okay. So, Councilman, you have anything? Mr. City Attorney, let me ask you a little uncharted territory. We've got a resolution that's up for its second and final reading. Is it cleaner to table that resolution and present an alternate direction or to amend in since we now have the second reading? Yeah, I I I would say that you know, you can do it either way if you want to. It's up to you. Okay, I appreciate the advice. Um,

3:27:48 – 3:28:36Speaker 1

I feel this is not a substantial change. This is just some additional work we can add to onto the already to the direction the council has already directed us towards. So, I think we can work with the resolution just amend it as as councelor Prescott has has requested and and we just have a little bit more work to sign to the park advisory board. Okay. So, I'm just going to read the the the language here and make sure we're good. This item is the second and final reading to consider a resolution authorizing the closure of Southwest Pool that is being amended to the temporary closure of Southwest and Southeast Pool for the 2026 season due to safety and structural concerns directing staff to perform an engineering study.

3:28:35 – 3:29:05Speaker 1

So moved. Okay. And with that for clarification, a feasibility study. So there's there's a slight difference in that as well. So uh structural structural study but also feasibility study correct for both southeast and southwest. Correct. Yep. Okay. I think we have the motion before you council. Second motion and a second. Any further discussion on 5.4. All in favor please say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Mr. Mayor. Yes sir.

3:29:03 – 3:29:44Speaker 1

I'd like to make a just a point of reference. I think Michael Kashuba and his group asked for that originally to do the study on both Southwest and Southeast. Correct. Back in August and we tked them to do it internally. So this ask was originally proposed in August. I just don't want to lose light of that. So maybe we should have just done it in August instead of waiting until now. But I think we should we should recognize that that was the initial course of action that was requested. So You have anything else there, counsel? He was the one that didn't let us take No, I'm just kidding. I was He led

3:29:43 – 3:30:26Speaker 1

You were the one that said, "Can't we just do it ourselves and then here we are three months later and we're going to get somebody else." I did. That was me. Okay. Uh Mr. Hooper, you got anything to add? Uh no, sir. I think we I think we have clear direction on that and we can we can certainly make that work. uh we'll bring you back at the findings of both uh the study for and the way I understand it the study for the both the facilities what it would take to uh eval to uh if we had to close them what it would cost to fix them etc etc to do the full study structurally everything else and then also a feasibility study to make sure that we know what the the needs are versus what we have now for the future. Yes sir. Uh,

3:30:23 – 3:31:08Speaker 1

and part part of that can we get without doing an RFP and RFQ, can we get legitimate bids from contractors that just give us an idea? Is that doable? It is doable. Okay. But you don't want to do it. Why don't What is that a problem? No, I don't think so. I think we can work through it. I mean, seriously, is it I mean, is it something you're talking about just getting an an estimate? just a pie in the sky estimate or not a pie in the sky estimate but I think we've been presented with all these numbers but we haven't been presented with hard like this was a bid that we got from X pool company and they could do it for this sure is that I mean to replace the equipment to do

3:31:07 – 3:31:52Speaker 1

that will come as part of the structural analysis okay well that's what I'm saying but we've been presented with a repair estimate that obviously you know a lot of the community is questioning and going, you know, you're saying $1.2 million. Where'd that come from? Well, we're saying, well, it's $400,000 to replaster it. Well, did we get a hard bid for that or we just someone told us that's about what it's going to be? I'm saying if we have hard bids, I think it brings a lot of comfort to the citizens to go, listen, here it is. Uh just like Mr. Galtier brought up. I mean, if we have those, and they say, well, why are you closing it? Well, we've got these eight bits to do the mechanical, the plaster, the whatever, uh, and the engineering, the big void that's underneath it. It's not doable. Then it's like, oh, okay, makes sense.

3:31:51 – 3:32:33Speaker 1

Sure, Councilman. So, for any project like this, generally what we'll do is get budgetary estimates. We don't know if we're looking at a $200,000 fix or $5 million fix. So, we work with vendors to try to come up with a budgetary number that's not a formal bid so that we know what the starting point is. From there, then we can go do a true bid once we know what that budget would be. So, we can get a true I guess all I'm trying those numbers were from a pool company that gave us those estimates to do the pools. So, we actually have used Sunbelt pool for a lot of different projects. They were the ones that gave us the number to replaster the pool and also for the equipment. So, those are budgetary estimates that came straight from a vendor.

3:32:31 – 3:33:10Speaker 1

And in order to get the hard bid, we we've got to design the the the procurement document itself, the scope itself. Exactly. So that that's the next step that that we've been that we've asked the council to then move towards. And so it's either again the board's going to be looking at a couple options. They're going to be looking, okay, do we do we do we recommend to the city council to fix what is and here's here's the scope and here's the bids or do we recommend to the feasibility you know this isn't the right place maybe one two three I don't know maybe maybe splash pads pools we don't know and so that that's why before we spend money part of idea is feasibility study decide what is the best use of these funds

3:33:08 – 3:33:30Speaker 1

yeah I think the biggest thing is that we see the cost involved which I think y'all done a pretty good job of presenting but I think what what's lacking uh is just those hard bids of like Yeah, that's exactly right. I think we really need to do some more investigative uh take a more investigative approach to get you some real numbers rather than just the estimates.

3:33:28 – 3:33:59Speaker 1

Thank you, council. Anything further on that item? Okay. All right, gentlemen. We'll move into section six, our discussion. Um we will go to 6.1. I know we have Miss uh Owens back here. Katrina, if you want to come in and maybe speak to what is currently on the website as far as check, register, and then we'll try to give better direction on what we're looking for.

3:33:57 – 3:35:56Speaker 1

Good afternoon, mayor and council. Today, I want to present an overview of the city's current practices related to the postings of the check register and the account register. I am Katrina Owens, interim CFO. I am falling apart. Okay. So, council gave direction back on June 24th meeting to produce two reports. The check register and then the account register. Now, the check register is a canned report from the system. There's no programming. It was bought with the system when we bought it. It's easy to produce. It has raw transactional data, quick turnaround and uh timely posting. Now some of the drawbacks, it does not include the wire transfers or deposits and that is specifically stated on the website. So we built the account register for that. It is a customized report written by our ERP account or consultant. So it has all the forms of payment including the checks, the AC's wire transfers and deposits. It provides more of a complete picture of the city financial activity for the general fund pull account. However, it is slower to produce. It is produced on a quarterly basis after the full bank recline is been performed. It does require more information to be redacted. Now direction was given to us to use the starting point of the new ERP system as of January 2025. So the data looked consistent and and there was no questions of with prior years looking different than the current year system. I want to take a moment and talk about the state uh comprollers office. They do have a transparency stars program which recognizes local governments that go above and beyond basic transparency by

3:35:53 – 3:37:53Speaker 1

making meaningful financial and operational information easily accessible to the public. Now, this program aligns the city to follow best practices with the controllers's office. Now, with all awards that we work towards, there's always going to be built in a best practice either at the state level or the federal level that we can follow. The city is working towards the eligibil eligibility of this program. So the check registers must be posted including all the transfers, wires and deposits. So we will achieve that with the account ledger. We must have three years of data posted online. So we currently are in our first year. So it'll take a couple more years before we have all of that accomplished. And then the information must be within three clicks of the homepage. and we have accomplished that. This is a snippet of the city's website. So, it's home finance and then financial transparency. Down at the bottom, you can see we start listing the check registers. So, it's in within three clicks. Right above those dots at towards the top, it does have the disclaimer that excludes the wire transfers, the deposits, and the transactions related to the component units. Now, there is a link for a public information request act for that information. I'd also like to point out that we are the fiscal agents for the component units and so we currently are only posting city information that council has oversight of going into an example of the check register. So it lists the payee, the amount, the date and so this really is just a list of checks from the system. Then we start with the account register. This is right under the checks register

3:37:50 – 3:38:44Speaker 1

area. So we can see we have the three quarters there. It does down at towards the bottom of this list all the other accounts you can ask for. You can ask for the hot tax debt and any other accounts and you can do that through a public information request act. Going into the account led uh ledger. You can see that it has date, supplier, uh employee, customer, the fund, which is going to be important, and then either the payment amount or the deposit. And currently, we have not received any public information request on additional data. What else would you like to see or what questions can I answer for you? Thank you, ma'am. Let's start over here with Councilman Prescott.

3:38:42 – 3:39:27Speaker 1

On the wires, is there any way if the wires are not uh not available, can we maybe get a a GL audit analysis report? Can we make some subsequent reports out of the ERP that are just going to show the wires without having to The wires will be in your account ledger in the deposit or in in the payment. So, they will be listed. Okay. So, so I'd heard earlier that they they were not not in the check register. They're in the account ledger. Okay. So, all things that we've we've been asked for by the public are going to be in the account report. But that's that's quarterly, correct? Yes, it is. That's quarterly. Okay. Monthly. Okay. Thank you. Yes, absolutely. Councilman.

3:39:25 – 3:40:06Speaker 1

All right. Just uh I'm going to go back um because Mr. Benson when he came up to speak on this. Um, is there is there a reason uh is it a a legal reason that we don't post certain things or things have to be redacted um redacted? We wouldn't post like the home housing checks. You don't want to see what the names are. You don't want to see any sort of wire information that has wire account information. So, you need to redact things that would protect protect privacy of that third party. Okay. And he asked specifically about the AEDC or their deposits, grant funds, and those type of things. Are those

3:40:04 – 3:40:49Speaker 1

that that's up to your discretion if you would like to start seeing AEDC, then we can provide that. It would take about half a day extra work to produce that specific and post it. Currently, it's just been about city oversight. Okay. So, when we when we looked at city oversight, we were just talking about our particular uh checking account, right? Okay. Now, Katrina, I know we have oversight over the ADC. Um, could that be a a request made to them or would do they not have access? I mean, if you're telling us it's going to take you a half or your crew is going to take a half day to get that data and put it in a format that can be presented.

3:40:46 – 3:41:30Speaker 1

Is that something that the EDC could do on their end? We could post it on their side. Now, we do the reconciliation of their bank account because we're in charge of moving the money as a fiscal agent and um we would do the redacting of now if it's better on the AADC website then by all means then we can do that. I was just thinking just resource-wise if you guys I know y'all are strapped and I mean a half day is a half day but so you're saying a half day a month is what it would take a quarter do the EDC a quarter because it would still be a quarter perspective on that one because it has to be reconciled regardless right and so the redaction and making sure that privacy is upheld. Okay. And then we give get it to whatever website you would like to point it put it on.

3:41:30 – 3:42:09Speaker 1

Thank you. Yeah Katrina's not saying that we that we can't do it we won't do It's it's just we we focused from our think from our direction we thought we had from council just look at the city managed the one the ones that actually your accounts and so we didn't look at the component use but if the council would like for us to to post component units we can add that to our list and that would be probably half a day per each and there's about six so couple days worth of work. So So do the do the grant deposits and payments that go out it's in there they're in the regular ledger. Yes. Okay, Councilman

3:42:06 – 3:42:50Speaker 1

Grayson, can we uh have the ADC come and and discuss getting that data to us so we can get that presented? Certainly. Um what do you are you wanting them to come and and ask that it be done? I just want to make sure there's no conflict with any deal flow or anything. Okay, I see about Okay. Anything EDC related for for confidentiality? So, yeah, we can consult with uh with Mr. Nelson about that and uh if there's if there's any issues we can come back to but otherwise if the if the council wants to direct us to proceed in that direction we can work towards that. If I have issues we'll we'll bring it back to uh we'll bring the issues back to you. I know it's coming a little ahead on a future agenda item but I believe we already have that data. Correct.

3:42:48 – 3:43:24Speaker 1

We have the data now if it's a matter of you would like a EDC to approve that they would post it. Absolutely. We need so we've already got it. Okay. Yeah. I I don't I don't think you need their approval. I think um are you just concerned about about there being confidentiality information or just I didn't know how the deal flow, you know, at the start. Now, once it's approved by council and things like that, I just want to make sure that we're doing things right on both sides of the Yeah, we can we can call Mr. Nelson if there is any issues that we're not aware if we can bring them to, but otherwise, I'm not aware of anything that would prevent us from doing that. Okay. I think Thank you.

3:43:22 – 3:43:52Speaker 1

I think it's good form and it it lends to good working relationship. We obviously have the data. we could put it up and continue to give more uh additional information and and let those that want to look at those registers see them. I don't think we're under any uh urgency per se. I think if that's something you could reach out and do and bring back a statement if you know Mr. Nelson doesn't need to come and present anything um in line with that. Yes, sir.

3:43:50 – 3:44:26Speaker 1

Just uh one final question. Uh Rich, is there anything that we can do with uh any agents or AI to accelerate and and not have a half a day to and then also maybe even get this faster than quarterly because it's it's very concerning to the citizens of Amarella that we can't see this in a more rapid fashion. Can we not get this faster? Yeah, we can take a look at it. We can actually use our our Mimica software to record the entire process and figure out if we can help automate. Yes, I think that would be a wide wise use of funds. I actually just took that as a note. So, we're already thinking that way.

3:44:24 – 3:45:07Speaker 1

And just to explain that, so we have a software mimicka that that it it takes some time because it it it monitors that the actions of employees and so that they so we can see, okay, they're spending half a day doing this. Can we automate that? So, that'll take some time to complete because you have to you have to study the employees over time to get data on that. But, we can work on that. Yeah, we'll have to actually do one and that way we're we have the entire process captured and then we'll figure out can we can we actually automate that and use a gentic to make it faster? Thank you. No worries. And just for my clarification, do you want all component units or just AEDC? Let's identify that because you know if you're looking at the PIDs those that that's inside of general fund.

3:45:04 – 3:45:41Speaker 1

They're already being displayed. So other component units would be venue district hospital district. It's uh let me get to that page. Uh chamber LGC and the Health Facilities Corporation, which doesn't have anything to it. Yes, sir. So, my my thought on that is we have it. Um why wouldn't we just give that information out to the public? We can. Yeah. if that's what you'd like to do.

3:45:38 – 3:45:59Speaker 1

I think uh I think you know gauging the the citizenry that they're going to say why not and then if we do withhold then you're withholding something that we don't have any problem with releasing and it causes the question to arise you know like why not or what are you what are you holding? So um

3:45:57 – 3:46:40Speaker 1

yeah mayor is yeah it's not a question of of we're trying to hide anything. just there's so many documents we probably not not just here and find us but still across the board we until you direct us otherwise we don't spend resources trying to put every document on the website and so we're not trying to hide anything it's just we're also trying to be wise stewards of the taxpayer dollars of where do we put our resources on on doing the work so so this is a good direction so that so now we know that that the council like to see all the components we can work towards that council is there anybody that that is moving a different direction or are we in unison that that we want to go ahead and put up all the component units along with um the internal departments of the COA.

3:46:40 – 3:47:18Speaker 1

I don't hear anyone. So, um we will move forward with directing you guys to do that, Miss Katrina. And then can I get uh confirmation that all deposits are being displayed? They're just quarterly. They are. So, there's no wire transfers, there's no deposits, there's no miss I shouldn't say missing. I should say there's no revenues that are coming into the city that that that are not reported that are not reported. They're all there. So all expenditures are being shown, all revenues are being shown, all component units will be shown. Yes. And then um how many years back have do we have the ability to do this?

3:47:17 – 3:48:02Speaker 1

Well, we can go back as far as you want, but there will be a different look to the data in the old system. So we started with January to make it look consistent. Okay. So, it's current year that we're in right now. And then if individuals needed to get to a zero uh on a reconciliation for themselves and they wanted to go back three years, how would they get that done? There's a public information link on the website on those areas and they just have to fill out a request and we'd be happy to provide it. Okay. And then that public information link um that is that's just going to look different, but all of that information is already being held. It's already been accounted for. It's in your ACTER, it's in your audit reports. So, it's not like we were creating work for staff at that point,

3:48:02 – 3:48:35Speaker 1

right? All you need to do is just click a button and share that data to whoever the foyer requesttor is. It probably will be a little bit more than just a click a button. We'll have to make sure that if there's any redaction that needs to happen that we do that, but it's not going to be extensive amount of time. it would it be normal for a citizen who's wanting to watch, you know, accounting this closely moving forward to request say three years previous and just to compare that with whatever we already have filed of record. We can do that.

3:48:32 – 3:49:18Speaker 1

Okay. I uh council, I think that that's probably going to be the other thing that we're going to continue to hear. And so this for me is don't ever go halfway. If you're going to go at all, go all the way. And so for us to put all of this up and to start placing all the component units and then have an inability to show three years prior accounting, which we have and has all been audited financials, then then I just think that's asking for trouble. And so I would love to just go ahead and get that. Um, you know, now is there any is there any direction from council to put that on the website? Does that help us with our transparency and maybe some of the stuff we're submitting? because it there was something in there. You have to be able to show three years.

3:49:16 – 3:49:46Speaker 1

The three years for the transparency star it would be for the account legis. We would be a qualify for it at that point in time if we posted three years. These individuals that that are asking for this information, you know, tend to be very techsavvy and and not to mind the different looking reports. That's fine. They just want bulk data from the ones that I'm communicating with. So, I don't see the difficulty in it not looking the same. Okay.

3:49:44 – 3:50:28Speaker 1

Because I'm I'm a fan of not creating additional work for the staff. So, um my request council would be to go ahead and put three years back uh just the bulk data on the website as well as all of the other additional direction. Do I have anybody here that wants to go a different direction? But that can be done with no I mean very little resources just putting on there. I hope so. Well, because I I thought the discussion before was that was not the case and that's why we went from the new software forward is because it was going to be a little cumbersome putting the old ones. I don't remember that part of the aspect but my recollection was it was because of the different look. Oh,

3:50:27 – 3:51:10Speaker 1

if okay if it's and I I do remember some uh discussion about like other things we needed to spend time on but knowing that it is there and it's all already reconciled uh it would just be a redaction I think it's well worth the time to redact it once and versus answering multiple foyas let's just put it on the website okay we can do so greatly appreciated all right thank you sir thank you miss Katrina all right gentlemen It's only 350. I know you guys aren't used to this. We'll keep pushing. Um, do I have any requests for future agenda items? Uh, item number 6.2.

3:51:10Speaker 1

Just for clarification, I don't I think we need to have Doug Nelson. I mean Okay. Yeah. I don't want to have that on the agenda. I think we can handle that internally.

3:51:17 – 3:53:16Speaker 1

Okay. Yeah, I think so. we just uh reach out double check on uh some of the deal flow I guess probably is the one concern. Okay. Yeah. Good clarification. Thank you. Anything further gentlemen? All right. I'll move us forward into um non-consent agenda. Uh item 7.1 is our first of four public hearings. Um Mr. Kendrick, our favorite presenter, you're up. Good afternoon, mayor, council. Uh, this first item is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8231. This is the consider the reszoning of 253.61 acres of land located in Potter County, Texas in the vicinity of Northwestern Street and West Hastings Avenue. The applicant is OJD Engineering LLC for Northwestern Development Company LLC and they are requesting the reszone from agricultural district to moderate density district 1 with specific use permit 207 to allow for 35 foot wide lots for single family detached homes. And they are proposing a total of 1,138 lots within this proposed subdivision. Um, and that will include a mix of attached and detached single family. 197 of those will be the um attached single family town homes. Uh this property was located outside the city limits at the time that city plan was adopted. So there is not a city plan place type for this property yet. And it will conform with many of the goals and objectives of city plan 2045 that I'll go over here in a few moments. On your screen now is the way that this property is going to essentially be divvied up between different plan areas that will feature different housing types within the area. Planning area one um which is that area in red will be the area that will have some of the those 35 foot wide lots. Plant areas two and four will be the

3:53:13 – 3:55:13Speaker 1

town home areas and plan area three will be an area in which the uh lot widths are required to be a minimum of 50 ft wide at the setback. So those will be a larger baseline lot that is more traditional um than the 35t wide lots. Um the unit density for this area will be approximately 4.5 units per acre which is very on par with other no alley subdivisions in town such as Tradewood Square and Heritage Hills for example. Um and then on your screen right now um is the phasing of the area. And I'll also note that the areas in green are proposed green space and there's going to be approximately 58 acres of improved green space provided within this subdivision that will also feature amenities uh for the residents. Um, regarding the goals and objectives of city plan 2045, uh, it really puts an emphasis on providing a variety of housing products within new subdivisions, which this does in the planning and zoning commission's opinion. And additionally, um, given that diversity, um, in addition to meeting the two primary housing goals for the city within city plan 2045, uh, the commission felt like this does do a good job of providing future workforce housing and affordable housing options, which is a key component of city plan. Uh, by right, modern density district 1 allows for a 40 foot wide lot and allows for less as requested by the specific use permit. Uh, city departments and utility companies did review the proposal for those narrower lots and did not see any concerns with what was proposed. Um, on your screen now is the breakdown of the lots throughout the subdivision. The ones highlighted in green are those 35 foot lots. The blue is 40 foot approximately and then the yellows are those uh 50 to 60 foot wide lots that the subdivision will feature. Um, while in some portions of the city, an entire neighborhood zone and developed to moderate density one district standards may not be

3:55:10 – 3:56:51Speaker 1

appropriate, the commission was of the opinion that there are a couple key points to consider as to why it is appropriate for this area. Um, this development from west to east across the property features significant changes in elevation as demonstrated by this cross-section. It actually falls approximately 134 feet from one side to the other. And uh with that fall elevation and the unique uh street layout uh that would mitigate negative impacts of what could be considered a cookie cutter subdivision in other parts of town that don't feature these unique features. And additionally the applicant is proposing a variety of lotlets throughout the subdivision and three distinct plan areas some of which would are dictated uh per the standards of this request. uh by utilizing its different standards and incorporating that green space. Uh the planning and zoning commission was of the opinion that the uh developer is proposing a unique um neighborhood with good amenities for the residents which are all core components of what uh the citizens stated that they're looking for during city plan 2045. And uh given these above factors, the planning and zonotic commission believes this request is appropriate and did recommend approval with a 60 vote with one member abstaining. We did receive a number of comments on this item. Um, there were 11 comments that were received with one being in support, nine just being general questions, and one a resident outside the city limits that did see one of the reasonzoning notice signs did express opposition as they did not want to see the develop uh the property developed next to them. Uh, with that, I'll take any questions.

3:56:48 – 3:57:31Speaker 1

Questions for Mr. Kendrick. Mr. Kendrick, who do you have here on behalf of this development to answer? Oh, we uh uh Lo Group is the primary developer behind this group. I know that's a Josh Langum and Elliot McKenna and uh Okay. are the primary developers for this. Okay. Um well I uh it's 1150 houses. Is that right? Uh 1,138. So Okay. And then do you know are they how many of those are going to hit that target market that's the hardest one to hit? Did they give you any price comps or goals as far as like 250 to 350, 350 to 500?

3:57:29 – 3:58:10Speaker 1

They didn't uh provide staff with those exact numbers, but I will say the areas on your screen there in the blue and the green that would be that more affordable product. Okay. And then the area in orange is those town homes. So those will be your more affordable products. So a good portion of the subdivision would be dedicated to those price points. And are they are they ready to develop? This is their last leg. We'll see this coming online soon. Is that right? Yes. So, they have a pleinary plan that is also nearing approval and they also have their first sets of infrastructure plans, I believe, turned into the city for review. So, I believe they intend to start moving dirt later this year. Real good.

3:58:07 – 3:58:41Speaker 1

No, nothing further on my end. Okay. At this time, we'll open a public hearing. Do I have anyone who'd like to speak for or against item 7.1? Seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing and entertain a motion. I move to adopt ordinance number 8231 as presented. Second. Motion and a second from the right side. All in favor, please say I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Mr. Kendrick, back over to you. Item 7.2.

3:58:39 – 4:00:39Speaker 1

Yes. This is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8232. This is also a public hearing first reading to consider the reasonzoning of 1.86 86 acres of land being lots one block two Burke subdivision of block two of Barnes Highlands edition and a portion of track two of Barnes Highlands edition. This is located in Potter County, Texas in the vicinity of Southwest 9th and Bueno Vista. The applicant is uh Chris Colinger for Freedom Baptist Church and they are requesting the reszone from residential district 1 and multiple family district 1 to office district 2 and they are proposing this change in zoning um as they want to utilize development standards that are the applicant believes would be more appropriate for their site given the non-residential nature of the use of their property and its location along Southwest 9th. uh the applicant uh who is a church. They have some upgrades that they're wanting to make to the property in the fourth coming months including signage and um currently the property with that zoning they're essentially following residential type zoning and designations for development standards even though they're a church. So that makes some of their potential plans a little challenging and is the reason for the request and the uh church is the remaining operation and they're not planning to close or sell. So, just wanted to mention that upon reviewing the request and analyzing the existing conditions for both zoning and development patterns in the area. The planning commission noted that they of the opinion that the request is appropriate for the area. You'll notice that this area is a is property is in a transition zone between general retail to the west and residential areas to the east. And typically uh best planning practices and also city plan like to incorporate um good transitions and zoning between these differing uses. So by incorporating office district 2 as zoning for this property, you would have a transition from GR to O2 the

4:00:37 – 4:01:29Speaker 1

residential instead of going straight from GR to residential. So on paper that's a more desirable zoning and development pattern that you typically like to see in these type of areas. And then given all that a look um the uh planning commission was of the opinion that this does create that ideal zoning pattern for the area and the commission did forward this to you all for approval with a 70 vote uh regarding public notices. Um we have received three comments as of today on this item um that were general inquiries. One comorter did express opposition about uh potential for increased uh sign signage along Southwest 9th and potential issues that might cause uh for traffic visibility on 9inth. Uh with that, I'll take any questions.

4:01:25 – 4:02:13Speaker 1

Questions for Mr. Kendrick on this item. Um only thing I would say, Mr. Kendrick, your department and probably you had a pretty good hand in this and Mr. uh Clowninger reaching out and and it's a great example of you guys looking for solutions, not just finding a reason to say no and then let them go on. And so I really appreciate the abilities that you give this council to direct somebody to your staff and say reach out to Brady or reach out to Drew or Cody, ask them tell them what all you're needing to accomplish and then they'll navigate you through all the codes and standards. And so it was an excellent job of you guys walking it the long way around but showing them the easiest way to get home. And so thank you for that.

4:02:12 – 4:02:43Speaker 1

Yeah, no problem. Yeah. Uh at this time we'll open a public hearing on item 7.2. I have anyone here who would like to speak for or against this item? Seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing and ask for a motion. Move to adopt ordinance 8232 as presented. Second. Motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Mr. Kendrick on to 7.3.

4:02:41 – 4:04:41Speaker 1

Yes. This is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8233. This item is a first reading and consideration of the reszoning of a 23.83 acre track of unplotted land. This is located at Randall County, Texas in the vicinity of Southeast 40th Avenue and Mir Street. The applicant is Ferman Land Surveyors, Inc. for Pega Development LLC and they are requesting the reszone from agricultural district to moderate density district 1 and this is on the east side of the Tradewind airport. Uh they are proposing to develop this property with 115 additional single family homes that will be a continuation of the Tradewind Air Park subdivision. Uh much of this property was recently located outside city limits. So it does not have a assigned place type at this point. uh given that um it is a continuation of the existing zoning and development patterns found within that subdivision. So the planning commission felt that it was a logical continuation of the development that is already occurring out there today. Um on your screen is the proposed plat for the subdivision just to give you an idea of what they have in mind. Um it's primarily single family detached homes although they do have one little row of uh town homes that are proposed along Beer Street there. So, um, with that, uh, the planning and zoning commission did recommend approval of this with a 70 vote. Uh, going over the public comments for this one, we did receive, uh, nine calls on this one, uh, three of those were general inquiries and six did express opposition and, uh, while those that did express opposition, um, were not necessarily opposed to additional single family homes, they primarily had concerns related to drainage and flooding concerns. I know there was a rain event there last summer that was pretty extreme that generated some street flooding in that area. So I think that was the primary driver between behind those comments and a couple of other of those callers did express concerns about uh traffic patterns it proposed and on your screen

4:04:38 – 4:05:05Speaker 1

now is just to show um for the public that may be interested. Um the area shaded in green of the proposed development, that's the area that will uh drain to the existing drainage infrastructure and streets back to the east and then the rest in white will drain to a new retention pond that's being improved by the developer. So majority of the drainage for this uh new area will go to a pond that is being improved. So with that, I'll take any questions.

4:05:03 – 4:05:42Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. Any questions for Mr. Kendrick on 73? No. Okay. Thank you. At this time, we'll open a public hearing on item 7.3. Do I have anyone here who'd like to speak for or against this item? Seeing no one, we'll close the public hearing and would entertain a motion. Move to adopt ordinance 8233 as presented. Second. Motion in a second. All in favor, please say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Let's carry on to item 7.4, sir.

4:05:40 – 4:07:40Speaker 1

Yes. 7.4 4 is a public hearing and consideration of ordinance 8234. This is a public hearing and first reading of an ordinance considering the reszoning of a 6.73 acre portion of lot 48 block one southside acres unit number 25 in addition to the city of Amarella. This is in Randall County, Texas in the vicinity of southwest 58th Avenue and Southwestern Street. The applicant is uh Thomas Roads for Netlex LP and they are requesting the reszone from General Retail District to General Retail District with specific use permit 208 for onremise primary use alcohol sales and service by indoor sports facility only. Uh the applicant is requesting the specific use permit to be able to serve alcohol out of the concession stands to patrons of the Netflix facility. General retail zoning only allows for on premise uh consumption by restaurants and is the reason for the request of this specific use permit. Uh the applicants tracked with city plan was identified as being in the reserve place type category and that's typically a placeholder to hold identified undeveloped areas for potential future development. However, in this instance is noted that the lot is already developed at the net facility. In analyzing the applicants um purpose for the request and the neighboring zoning and development patterns, it is noted by the planning and zoning commission that light commercial district borders the property to the west and um that the property is located on the periphery of a commercial corridor that is focused along Western Street and also at the intersection of 58th Avenue with Western Street. It is noted that like commercial district within light commercial district all alcohol related sales uses per the city's ordinance are allowed while in general retail district on premise incidental sales um and service by restaurants off-remise alcohol sales and temporary sales on or off- premise are the only ones allowed by right regarding the location of the property.

4:07:38 – 4:09:37Speaker 1

The site is located on the south side of Southwest 58th Avenue with Southwest 58th Avenue classified as an arterial roadway and featuring high volumes of traffic. In this area, 58th functions as a dividing line which is with more residential oriented development being located north of 58th while commercial and retail type development uses and zoning are generally located south of 58th. This functionally creates a dividing line and buffer in this area between these two distinctively different land use areas. It is noted that a restaurant that is currently located in the same building holds a license to serve alcohol in addition to the zoning city zoning regulations. Any alcohol-related land use is also required to conform if applicable TABC license requirements with the state prior to an alcohol license being granted. And I'll just mention that the reason this request be is before y'all today is that they did try to submit through that process and were denied because of the zoning. So that's the reason that this request is before y'all today. Uh given that the existing zoning patterns found in this area, the planning and zoning commission is of the opinion that if approve approved the specific use permit would not introduce land uses that are out of character with the allowed land uses in the area given the presence of the commercial district immediately to the west of the property and also the fact that this property has been able to serve alcohol, although noted to be associated with a restaurant. In the interest of limiting the range of potential alcohol-related land uses that are able to operate at this location, the planning and zoning commission did make the recommendation that the specific use permit as requested only applies to an indoor sports facility in the event that the building ever changes uses. Future consideration of the specific use permit would be required if a different user uh land user wanted to serve alcohol that was not an indoor sports facility or an alcoholrelated land use that is not allowed by right in general retail

4:09:35 – 4:10:57Speaker 1

district. So the base zoning uses that are allowed with GR alcohol would still be allowed in addition to allowing the use with an indoor sports facility is essentially what uh planning and zoning commission forwarded to y'all as a recommendation today. Um, with that, uh, public comment wise, we received four comments in opposition to this request, and I'll just summarize the comments that we've received. Um, concerns about the establishment hosting youth sporting events. Um, a daycare and church are located in close proximity to the location. Um, the quest may not conform with TABC regulations. Recent altercations at sporting events in the city in recent months. Um, if the use ever changes, a bar could potentially open. Traffic on Southwest 58th Avenue is hazardous and introduces more al and introducing more alcohol-related land uses in this area could lead to more DWIs and accidents. And um Amberllo has a DWI problem and adding more alcohol uses the commenter felt like would not be wise. So that's a summary of the comments that the planning department received on this. Uh the staff recommendation from PNZ was a recommendation of approval with a 70 vote to recommend this specific use permit with that caveat that it's for an indoor sports facility only. And with that, I'll take any questions.

4:10:55 – 4:11:27Speaker 1

Questions for Mr. Kendrick. Yeah. Um so the address for the restaurant and the Netflix is identical. Okay. Yeah. It's uh 3723 Southwest 58th. Both the same address. And there's already a a license issued for that address. Even if we reszone, can an establishment have two liquor license at the same address?

4:11:28 – 4:11:54Speaker 1

I can help answer that one. Council member Reid. other than a hotel, they cannot unless they've got separate suites within an address. Like for example, I'll use Sea Market, which is a variance we did not too long ago that's at 34th in Georgia. That's a shopping center. There's different suites and so each of those suites can have a permit. Um otherwise, one address is one permit. So

4:11:51 – 4:12:42Speaker 1

because and and part of my concern um the way the statute reads section 25.13 the physical address on a permit includes all areas at the address where the uh permit uh holder may sell for immediate consumption. And I'm I'm looking at that the way the law is written. There's already a there's already a permit to sell alcohol as long as the holder of that permit is the one selling it. And I'm thinking that there's probably an easier way to do this than reszoning is you let the restaurant expand that outside perimeter that they have um that would allow the consumption of alcohol that they sold.

4:12:39 – 4:13:30Speaker 1

I believe with this property um and the applicant may be able to speak more to this, but I believe it's already divided in suites and they have different address points. So, um because I know I believe the restaurant is physically separated inside from the rest of the space, but and then um when it comes to the the zoning aspect of it though, the reason it's be before yall today is that general retail by right only allows that on premise consumption associated with a restaurant. And if you try the blend those two uses together, that gets tricky when it comes to the calculations of food sales with the sales associated with Netflix, the alcohol sales. So I think that's the reason why this has all been separated from the start if I'm correct in that. Um,

4:13:27 – 4:13:50Speaker 1

and if I can add, the current permit for San Jose Mexican Restaurant is for sweet 100. So it is limited to a footprint within the Netflix. if they were to reapply and to get a permit for all of that facility, then they could work with the restaurant and and sell alcohol at any part of that property.

4:13:47 – 4:14:57Speaker 1

Okay. And you know, the the only other issue that was raised by your comments, um, and I went out there, I took a nice tour. I I I took measurements from the church to the uh front of the property and then around to the daycare and it fits within um the state statutes uh TABC statutes for those things. Um and just trying to do a little bit more due diligence. You'd be surprised how many uh liquor stores um and restaurants that serve alcohol are within that distance here in Amarillo to churches and hospitals and other daycarees. So um you know this is a I'm just h the problem I'm having is there's already that license even though it's been divided into suites. um it comes back to that same address and I don't know if that's an issue that the city should be concerned with or that's that's the issue that that's TABC and all we have to be is deciding whether or not this thing's reszoned.

4:14:55 – 4:15:31Speaker 1

Well, it's a it's a separate entity as well. So, you think of a strip center. I mean, if they have separate suites, you have a liquor store on one end, may have a whatever a boutique on the other. If they want to sell liquor, they can't. Even though it it's the same building, but it's just different suites. So, I would think that this would be the same thing because you're looking at two different entities. Would be my guess. I don't know that, but that'd be my guess. Mr. Kendrick, tell us about the denial. I'm unclear on who denied. Was it TABC that denied the application?

4:15:28 – 4:16:15Speaker 1

So, um, as part of the, um, um, process the city goes through whenever requests are submitted through Stephanie, we screen all the requests. Um, and this one failed because of the zoning of the property because you had an entity because um, the way to look at it, it's the same parent address, but because each of them are separated with their own suite addresses essentially, they each have their own independent address. So, we received a request that was a non-rest that wanted to serve on for on-remise consumption. And because that because GR only allows for on- premise consumption by a restaurant or associated with a temporary event, planning had the um make that um recommendation or make or sign off on denying it because of the zoning issue.

4:16:12 – 4:16:55Speaker 1

So Netflix as an entity for sporting event center um was denied based on the fact that they're not a restaurant, it's a GR, general retail. That's so you could reszone the whole thing. What? like commercial. That's a potential as well. There were some concerns about that just because like commercial um the further north and east we get we're starting to get closer to some of those single family areas. Okay. So, the reason we recommended going the SUP route was to not also introduce all those additional uses that are allowed in LC that may not be appropriate for such close proximity to a single family area. Mr. Balls, I know you can probably add to this.

4:16:53 – 4:18:49Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Sorry about my voice. It's kind of gone a little bit. Um, but yes, in terms of units, I mean, it it's the same that we usually see for building safety cos and stuff as well. Each individual unit in a building, it has its own CO, so they operate on their own. This one did come in and got denied uh, as Brady is saying, because it was it was submitted as the Netflix facility, a sports facility, and not a restaurant as an incidental use to that. Uh this was then brought back to us. Uh PNZ was the one that put the limit on um on the recommendation for it to be only for an indoor sports facility. Our the way our kind of our ordinance is broken down is whether this is incidental or primary use as as a for sales of alcohol. Um, we do note and we did note the use of the the sale of alcohol by the restaurant and the ability for them to potentially even allow the sales to basically transfer out somebody take a can from one unit to the next unit. Um, if that's how they operate, you know, allowing to bring those alcohol in. However, we wouldn't allow them at that time to sell the alcohol out of uh the actual NEPLEX facility. And so whenever we bring you the recommendation and something that PNZ considers as well is that actual fact that you're talking about why why didn't they just open it up and have the restaurant sell the alcohol and they take it over there? Well, exactly. That's one of our points as well is we're talking about incidentally use from a restaurant, incidentally use from another use as well. Um, how much do we want to separate those kind of incidental uses? Um, and their their ability again just

4:18:46 – 4:19:28Speaker 1

to be able to take that drink across to another unit of the same building. So, so what you're saying is that's a possibility. It it's a possibility how they structure their units and and their tenants and and the sales alcohol that they want on there. Yes. I mean is the concern for and the operator is here right? Yeah. C can you can you come up? I will make note all of our com comments are being based on uh city's regulations and not TABC's regulations. They do have to meet all TABC regulations

4:19:26 – 4:19:57Speaker 1

because ultimately you they still have to go through the application process to TABC to get that license and you could be rejected for that. Yes sir. Okay. Um, so what is the because you did in your uh in your comments you said that you wouldn't be selling it during sporting events uh UIL any any youth activity events that are going on there. So the intent is for what? Adult pickle ball. Okay.

4:19:54 – 4:20:34Speaker 1

Yeah. We have a huge adult um 18 to 35 and then really over 50 demographic who uses the uh Netflix for pickle ball and they've requested to be able to just have a beer after they play. Okay. And so the the pickle ball is all day long. What what are the hours that that um the Netflix opens at 8:00 a.m., closes at 900 p.m. Um yeah, I doubt anybody's going to be drinking a beer at 9:00 in the morning. Um yeah, so and closes at 10 900 p.m.

4:20:30 – 4:21:13Speaker 1

Okay. And the uh daycare center when that closes they're open from 7:00 to 5:00, right? Uh the daycare center closes for um I think extended pickup at 6:00. It's not connected. There's no access to the daycare center through the Netplex. So, it's its own entity um with its own access, right? And I think they close at 6. I talked to Billy about that. So, I think they generally close about 5 and late pickup as it if and if I remember correctly, their their entrance is all the way around the corner in the back. Yes, sir. Yeah. We can't even get through it to like through a back door, anything through the net. And there there is no but there's no connection between the two buildings. It's basically a separate. Yes, they're a separate tenant. Okay.

4:21:11 – 4:21:41Speaker 1

Yes. as is uh San Jose Mexican restaurant se a separate but San Jose has a doorway. They have a connection to the Netflix. Well, no, that is now um has a panic bar that has an alarm on it. It's not it's uh fire safety has said it has to be accessible for egress, but it's not they can't they can go out. It there's no um flow of alcohol through or flow of anything through their traffic wise. So, the only way is going through that front door. Yes, sir.

4:21:38 – 4:22:24Speaker 1

All right. So, and I and I'll bring up a couple issues that I mean Fischer and I talked for about 45 minutes Sunday, but I do like the specific use. Um, I think there's some concerns from the citizens where you what if Netflix goes out of business that a bar comes in, you know, because they're going to leverage that. I love that it's specific use like it it can only be a sports facility. So, you look at Chicken and Pickle, you look at uh Top Golf, I mean, similar situations. Kids can go to them. It's constant alcohol. Um, you know, we've got, you know, Verdur, you know, it's a pool and there's alcohol there with kids. So, um, and I think, am I correct in saying that the alcohol has to be consumed in a restricted area. Is that correct?

4:22:22 – 4:22:40Speaker 1

Yes, that'll be the lounge area, not on courts. It can't move. We've got double doors that lead to each set of courts. So, the volleyball, basketball courts to the right and pickle ball to the left. So, um, yeah, they have to stay in the center lounge area. So, it can't be it can't be moved to a court. No.

4:22:38 – 4:23:26Speaker 1

So, you know, another issue that people brought up was, you know, what about, you know, the the parents getting mad at games, you know, which we've obviously seen. We've all been intense at our kids games and that kind of thing. Uh, my thinking on that is we've got a restaurant right there. I mean, if they want to go take shots and then go watch their games, they're going to go do that. Uh, a lot more detrimental than drinking beer, I think, is what's going to be served. Um, and also, if you're dealing with that type parent, they've got it in their vehicle. I mean, if that's their issue, uh, and they want to drink, then they can go to their vehicle, drink whatever they want to drink, and go watch their kids game. I don't think serving beer in a restricted area, uh, is going to lead to additional violence. I could be wrong, but I just don't think that that's the case. Um, and then, uh, security. Do you guys provide security at all?

4:23:24 – 4:24:05Speaker 1

We do. We contract with our tournament directors. Um, they underwrite the cost or they pay for the cost, um, the expense of APD. Um we uh have two officers whenever is needed. Um not just one and it's there are APD officers. Okay. So we have officers on site during UIL during if we have large tournaments, boxing, jiu-jitsu, volleyball, basketball. Um if they're needed, we have them. Yes. So they would help restrict someone. Okay. Yes. Okay. And we don't allow outside food and beverages in. Um so it it's well restricted. Okay. Thank you. Councilman.

4:24:02 – 4:24:23Speaker 1

So just to confirm the the request meets the distance requirements from daycare, church and any other facilities as dictated by law. Correct. I would not be able to answer that because we don't planning wouldn't do that review. I can but they will have to. Yes. Okay.

4:24:20 – 4:25:28Speaker 1

Uh we were awarded last January, January 3rd, we were awarded a TABC license. We've provided all of the data, all of the maps. uh TABC came out and uh walked the facility. We were awarded that um license and then a couple two days later uh San Jose Mexican Restaurant came in and requested a um a lease. And so we opted to um forego that to abandon it to allow uh San Jose Mexican Restaurant, which is an independent entity, to be successful um because we want that in our community. they're successful restaurant operator operators from another state who have relocated their business here and uh they needed alcohol sales to be successful and we we felt like we had we had come up against a roadblock with um with the city and the way that we needed to reszone and so we just exited the you know spent a considerable amount of money to and worked with Stephanie to to be in line um spent a considerable amount of money to to get that license and then quickly abandoned it in favor of uh San Jose just to do what was right.

4:25:27 – 4:26:10Speaker 1

And council member Simpson, if I can add, so the city secretary's office certifies these applications when they come through the city and we are certifying that the proposed alcohol sales align with the city code. And so we measure the distance to churches and to schools and to any public hospitals, which we don't have anymore. And that's with our code. We do not have daycarees in our code. So we do not look at any any sort of distance to a daycare. Okay. Um, now on the on the restaurant, is it a full service restaurant? Beer, wine, and liquor or Yes sir. Okay. So, it's serving. Can you take I mean, can you take something out of a restaurant somewhere else? So, right now, no one could take it elsewhere.

4:26:08 – 4:26:41Speaker 1

No, you can't walk about in the state of Texas would be my understanding. Am I I think I'm correct on that. Like, they can't walk out and walk around and we don't allow outside beverages, food and beverage in. So, you can't come in with a anything other than a water bottle. But I guess I don't know whether whether Councilman Reid was saying whether that one individual license could serve both facilities, right? But then the other facility where you're just requesting beer and wine, then that would allow the sale of hard liquor if we opened it up to that. So,

4:26:40 – 4:27:10Speaker 1

uh, but I thought so anybody that consumes it is supposed to stay in that area. And then you said uh you're going to have an area I mean not that it's required but when someone purchases alcohol they have to stay in the area and they can't go back out to the courts or to watch more pickle ball volleyball that the thing is to stay in that one particular area. Okay. U how many so when it looks at the number of youth events that you think you have in a year how many youth events do you have?

4:27:08 – 4:27:42Speaker 1

Um on average about 12 to 15 a year. I mean, sometimes we have one a month, sometimes we have more than one a month. Um, we host a lot of, uh, corporate functions, pickle balls with, you know, pickle ball um, matches and, uh, outings with churches. Um, pickle ball power play is a large event. We have about 250 people. That's this weekend. Um, who have registered. We we're, you know, the economic impact of that is we've got people coming in for three and four nights. Um, it's not a youth event. Um, really, you know, not a not a ton. uh 12 to 15 a year

4:27:40 – 4:27:57Speaker 1

and then but when you have those events there's security there or other other things that are available there so and then and I wasn't aware of this I mean while Netflix may be owned by individuals it's managed by the sports facilities companies

4:27:55 – 4:29:29Speaker 1

yes sir so my company rci sports management up here in Amarillo um had been we've been um operating and managing facilities across the US um and then we were recently acquired last week by the industry leader sports facilities companies based out of Clearwater, Florida. Um they have 135 facilities around the country. Um goodness, $960 million in economic impact through their SF network facilities. Um trusted leader since 2003. So um that they've been around the block. Um they've had alcohol in their facilities for a considerable amount of time. Um and in our facilities as well, we have not had any issues related to alcohol use. Um in our Kansas facility, we elect we had a quesa event um last week and we elected not to serve alcohol. Um quesa is like Kansas's UIL. So uh we we just we can make the call, which is great. If we have um 250 people coming in for a pickle ball event and they want to have a beer, we'd love to have that. If we have 2,000 coming in for a volleyball event that um is Sun Country regional volleyball, so all the way from Albuquerque to down to Levik, it may not be the best time to serve alcohol. So um you know, I'm a mother of four. My kids have played Kids Inc. everything through here. I have four sons. So every sporting event we've played um in Amarillo, and you know, we we hear community's concerns on that. And and I I think it's reasonable moderation is what we're seeking.

4:29:27 – 4:30:07Speaker 1

I mean, and and is that the philosophy, I guess, that you have across all the facilities? I mean, kind of making judgment calls on on alcohol. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. All right. Thank you, Mrs. Strad. SU is for seven acres or just the common area or Mr. Kendrick, how do you have this written? Yeah, the request um applies to the essentially the building and the parking lot which is the entirety of the 6.73 acres. So, we're doing the SUP for the entirety of the property, not just the common area. Right. Right. It applies to the whole building.

4:30:05 – 4:30:42Speaker 1

And then lease modification is an option. I guess if you had a willing tenant, you could modify the lease to grow out into the common area. No issue on our side with the city secretary approval for there to be um alcohol on premise in a common area per se. It's just restricted right now because of the the lease agreement for the size of the restaurant. No issue on the city secretary side. If if the zoning were to change and the land use allowed for it, um we could certify on that. It would then be up to TABC to to go through their process and approve.

4:30:40 – 4:31:21Speaker 1

Sure. seems like the longest way to go on a very specialized uh variance. You know, for an SUP to service customers that you are already being serviced. Um, you know, if you have a tenant that has a competitive edge per their lease, you know, those are their customers that are wanting to come in and sit down and have that beer in between pickle ball games, I think, is the way they're viewing that. And so, is there no way to just modify the lease and get it out from in front of this council? It it doesn't seem like a a zoning issue uh for us. I mean, it's definitely not typical. It seems much more like a tenant issue between a landlord.

4:31:22 – 4:32:02Speaker 1

Can I can I step in right there for just I think the issue is that the restaurant's footprint is limited to sweet 100 and right now land use says you cannot serve alcohol without a restaurant. And so you can't take that alcohol outside of that footprint of that suite to the rest of the Netflix facility. But then in monetizing those potential alcohol sales, I mean, if the footprint grows into the indoor patio of the restaurant and the restaurant sells the alcohol through the concession stand, your your permit's already in place, but that revenue doesn't go back to the Neplex. That goes back to the restaurant tour.

4:32:00 – 4:32:44Speaker 1

Correct. Which has the the license. They're they're the license holder. So, I can't help but feel like that's that's their issue is like the the lease E is the one who has the the TABC license for this particular, you know, potential. Who has the issue? Nobody has an issue. Oh, I'm not I'm not saying the issue of like that lease issue. I should not use the word issue. I should say the lease has the advantage of of having the the TABC license per the zoning. We're going to reszone it with a special use permit. just to allow alcohol sales in the common area. Correct. Right. Especially Yep.

4:32:42 – 4:33:13Speaker 1

Okay. Mrs. Trout, thank you for being here. I appreciate that. So, we haven't gotten to our public hearing yet. We We definitely got to our questions before Mr. Kendrick sits down. Do we have anything further from council? Okay. I'm sure we're going to be able to hear from a few people in our public. At this time, I'd like to open up a public hearing. Let anyone speak that would like to. Please raise your hand if you'd like to give comment here on this item. Okay, Mr. Fischer, you look to be up first.

4:33:16 – 4:33:46Speaker 1

All right. I do I have more than three minutes. I hope that you'll give that or or spread it around and give equal Well, Mr. I know I know you're not used to this, but we we don't necessarily um have to limit conversation here, but you work as quickly as you can and then we'll try to work from there. I've got a hand out and you know, I'm I'm going to try to be nice because you guys gave me a couple of wins and I'm going to do my best to be nice. Can I

4:33:44 – 4:34:45Speaker 1

hand them to Mr. Freeman if you would? Thank you. You know, I was just watching the body language of people around here, like the people that work here, um, like the city secretary and Andrew Freeman, and I saw when when they were saying certain things, Andrew Freeman was nodding his head, and it it Why does our city pitch for somebody? Why are why is our city sales pitching for this? I mean, it it really seems like they're really going out of their way to make sure this happens. And the board, the zoning board did the same thing. What I've given you is kind of a conflict list. And I I really think that Mr. Simpson, I think you should abstain. I mean, you you've had a history of of of carrying water for the Underwood Law Firm. I mean, if you want to smile, do you have something to say? Do you want to say something?

4:34:43 – 4:36:41Speaker 1

Okay. You remember when we were going to hire that outside law firm? Uh, I wrote it down. Hide. You went to bat. You said, "We already have counsel." We know who you're talking about. Underwood Law Firm. That's who you're talking about. That's who you were going to bat for. That's who you're carrying water for. Who owned the house that you live in right now? Alan Rhodess of the Underwood Law Firm. The guy that's applying for this. Who owned one of the houses you lived in, Mr. Freeman? Alan Rose of the Underwood Law Firm. And that may explain the the head nodding and and the they're going to bat for these guys. There's something else going on. Who's carrying the water? The city secretary, if you look at one of those pages, I didn't keep a copy myself, but one of those pages where the city secretary wrote the words grandfathered there. The word grandfathered is not in TABC code. Again, we're carrying water and we're doing things for people. There's there's other businesses in this town that have gone years years. Remember when you stopped the the TABC license from being applied to the the business on Sixth Street? I don't have any connection to those guys. I remember just sitting here watching and you we talked you guys talked for 30 minutes and I think I think um one of you guys said, "Let's just get this over with." I mean, it just kept going on and on. Why didn't you talk about this today? You didn't talk much about it against it or or doing the right thing. And in regards to the daycare, everything that I see says that a daycare applies here and a daycare starts at at the property line and it's that daycare is within the property line of the whole business. I ask for transparency. You guys might have seen my page. I put it in I don't know if I put it in there. to the board

4:36:38 – 4:37:23Speaker 1

members to the board members on the on the they said this board uh for the planning zoning they said this board doesn't decide who drinks alcohol. This board shouldn't even decide what land use is. They said that not one there wasn't any discussion about alcohol and the whole permit was only about alcohol. This needs to be sent back. I'm asking for transparency. Let's say everything works. Let's say you guys are okay with this. So make them let's go through the process that it's supposed to go through and let's educate M. Mr. Fisher. So we'll stop the beep here.

4:37:21 – 4:38:06Speaker 1

Mr. Fischer, let's uh let's give everybody their time. We may not have anybody else here that wants to speak and then uh I'll call on you. Uh I'll I'll let you make one final statement. Would you like to make it now or after everybody else speaks? I can be on the record. Okay. Mr. Henry in the back, please turn. Go back to you. I'm going to go after you next. Mr. Fisher, put them on the list. One comment, then we'll move forward. Sir, if you do pass this, I think you should tie it to the NIC code and that will make it definite that it has to apply to whatever that type of business is. Because if we just say sports complex, that could be anything. Okay.

4:38:06Speaker 1

Thank you. Point taken. Thank you, sir. Um, okay. Next hand that I saw go up is uh Mrs. Benson in the back. If you'll come forward, Ken.

4:38:22 – 4:40:20Speaker 1

Good afternoon. Is it is mine on now? Uh, Kim Benson, Emerila, Texas. I did attend that board meeting because I was in the kid business for 31 years and so it bothers me if we're going to put alcohol where kids are. I mean, world has changed. We know that. We're seeing the fights at at sporting events. Luckily, as raising my child, I didn't have to experience that. But you add alcohol to the mix, that's not a good combination, guys. I mean, I'm sitting here listening to you guys and and it sounds like you've already got your mind made up. Mr. Fiser did make a good point. I open records request everything to do with this property and it was a struggle this time to get this open records. Uh back and forth with phone calls, didn't understand the address that I put. I put the address. I put what was in that um planning and zoning agenda. I put vicinity. use the city's words. Stephanie and I went back and forth. We did we did get there, but when the request came through, I got an email that stated that they were not going to give me what I was asking for and that they did not have to appeal to the attorney general's office. I'm like, what what's going on here? And so I reread and reread and finally I did come to the conclusion that they were going to exclude email addresses. But then I could not get open on my portal what she was giving me. So I had to go back and say I can't open this up. Where is it? I finally did get a few of the things that I was asking for. One of the things I did not get which is a bothersome to me and this kind of relates to what Mr. Fischer is talking about. I said, "Please include any documentation, legal memos, ethic disclosures, recusal statements, or records of internal

4:40:17 – 4:41:13Speaker 1

discussion involving potential conflicts of interest particularly regarding outside legal counsel Allen Rhodess, which is the applicant of this resoning who is identified as the applicant for Neplex LP and has served in legal capacity for the city of Amarillo. If Mr. roads or any affiliated parties participated in city business related to this permit or location, please provide that documentation. I didn't get that. I did not call back because I I was done at this point. It just seems like what Mr. Fischer said, sometimes we do special favors for certain people in this town. We all know it. It's not hidden. So guys, really do what's right in your heart for our kids of our community. Protect our kids. Thank you.

4:41:11 – 4:43:09Speaker 1

Thank you, Mrs. Benson. Do have anyone else here who'd like to speak? Yes, ma'am. In the white shirt, if you come forward, can we get your name again, please? My name is Katie Alexander and just kind of recapping what she just said. Uh I don't think that and what I had said earlier I guess is the it seems like we're going through a lot of trouble just to be able to sell alcohol and to be able to make this extra money selling alcohol. And like she had spoke um with the San Jose restaurant opening, it was like right after they had put the application in and they chose not to go through with that application because the restaurant had put a lease application in and they wanted them to succeed. I don't know why now, you know, they've been open a long a little while. why that has changed as to why I mean that would still take away from their alcohol sales which if you know that was their intention then I don't understand why it's changing other than to make money off of pickle ball which also is kind of like the you know cornhole was real popular and now it's pickle ball so it's kind of one of these things that it's Like, is it worth going through all of this and all of the bad things that could happen when you add alcohol to sports or whatever, is it going to be worth it whenever the fad ends and or the

4:43:06 – 4:44:31Speaker 1

somebody else buys, you know, it's no longer a sports plex. And so I just think that if we're going on intentions and setting a good example for our youth, we need encouraging alcohol. That is I mean I would assume our APD would think that is not cool or that's not what we advocate for is we tell our kids drinking is bad. You know, even until you're 25 when your brain is fully mature. You know, it's we've all seen the things that can happen with alcohol use and I just don't understand why we're pushing for alcohol use in something that should be some I would say innocent. And I don't think that using a fad, a pickle ball is the excuse that we should be using. And let's keep in mind, yes, even if the daycare zoning doesn't matter, again, those are those are people's parents or kids. And I don't think that and if they're open till 6:00, I mean, I'll be damned. There's going to be somebody drinking a beer before 6:00. So, I just think that we need to think about the kids and keeping the kids safe, and this is something that we have control over. So, let's keep our kids safe.

4:44:30Speaker 1

Thank you, ma'am. You're welcome. Do I have anyone else who wants to speak on this item? Yes, ma'am. If you'll come forward and give your name, please.

4:44:41 – 4:46:40Speaker 1

Hi, my name is Molly Gormley. Um, I am a resident of Amarillo. I'm in the city limits. Um, I just want to reiterate what the past three people have said on bringing alcohol around sports when feelings emotions are already high. You get people that are they you get hormones raging. You put alcohol into that. It is a stupid idea. End of story. Um, I don't think it's safe by any means. Um, if it's going to be to a confined area, um, as stated, that's the goal, um, why can that confined area not already just stay as the restaurant. Um, allow that restaurant to succeed, have the sales that they need. Um, why does it have to go from I don't understand the reasoning for a independent tenant to succeed to a whole now as a landlord. I want a part of this. Um, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that is how it feels is well, I see the restaurant succeeding. I guess I should have really honed in on that. Now I want my building reszoned but what 15 years ago um it was the YMCA. What will happen if we reszone this? Netlex fails because pickle ball is a fad. Um did it not used to be basketball courts in the past 10 years as well? Um we've seen basketball courts, we've seen volleyball courts, now we're seeing pickle ball. Um what is going to happen when this fails? it's reszoned and

4:46:40 – 4:47:48Speaker 1

it's an even more outlandish idea to mix alcohol with that. My biggest thing is how many times how many businesses have rotated in and out of this specific building and if we reszone this area, how is that going to bring alcohol and introduce alcohol into future tenants? Um, I mean, we're claiming now that it won't be served during youth events. Well, youth events in five years could be a lot more popular. It's It wasn't even a question five years ago. It's a question now. So, what's going to happen when these youth events get huge? We have alcohol being served now because it's a money maker. That's what this is. This is a money maker. San Jose is doing great with their restaurant and now it needs to be brought into other areas. How will that work when this building is no longer Netflix? It's inevitable in 20 years and maybe even five. What's that plan?

4:47:47 – 4:47:59Speaker 1

Thank you so much. Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else that would like to offer comment here during the public hearing? Yes, sir. if you come forward if you don't mind giving your name please sir.

4:48:00 – 4:49:59Speaker 1

Good afternoon. My name is Harry Dwit and I am a resident of Emarillo. Um most people don't know me. I am part owner of Netflix as well. I'm a a partner from Allen Allen known Allen for a long time. Um, and I'm just sitting back and I hear his name being smeared around. But, um, I drink a beer and a and a glass of wine on occasion. Uh, we do it in a restaurant. They do it at home. Uh, I'm not a pickle ball player. We, um, we had a a alcohol license. My name was on the alcohol license. I guess we should have been smarter and put my name back on it. Uh like like Kristen said, um we did have the license. Uh San Jose came in, they they requested it in their restaurant zone. I think zone 100. They they wanted exclusively the the alcohol license which we granted to them. Uh I think they're pretty successful. Uh but we would like to keep them there as well. Um it um in in some in in pickle ball events or different events in in sports I mean look around the the country uh alcohol is served. It's typically beer. Uh does it get out of hand that is up to management to keep control? Um we do have officers around when uh when needed. Um I would of course I'm I'm I'm forward also. Um moderation is key. Uh we tried to run Niplex ourselves. Uh we had a hired a couple managers. We try to run the timeout restaurant prior to that. Uh we were not successful. We're also not restaurant people. Uh we'll leave that up to somebody else that's good at it. Um, so we get went through a couple

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iterations. At the end, you get payments to make. It's a business. Does adding uh alcohol sales to certain events, does that make you rich? It doesn't. We But we still have to make payments. It's it's still a business. Um, and that's why you look through an annual budget and you come up uh on the short end and you we continue to to fund it because that's we when you run a business, you don't just let it let it go. Uh, alcohol sales is one one key that will help us uh continue. Uh, we did run u into rci. We we uh hired uh Kristen and RCI about two years ago. Um it's been a total change from what we used to do ourselves. It is very professional. Uh she is very good at what she's doing. She's got a really good team and uh yeah, hope to uh get an alcohol permit eventually granted to us and go from there.

4:51:03Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. D. Thank you.

4:51:05 – 4:53:05Speaker 1

Do I have anyone else here who'd like to speak? Mr. Gautier in the back. Please come forward. Um, Craig Ultier, I was really struggling if was I really going to come and speak on this particular issue or not. I guess really the reason why it just kind of struck me, I spoke at the at the hearing with the planning and zoning. Uh, the reason why I speaking about this really is because it's really hits close to home. This is this was my hood, you know. Uh my mom still lives one block straight down to that runs straight into Netflix. Right there where Netflix is is where I used to ride my three-wheeler, you know. So there's probably no one in this room who knows that area more than I do. Uh and I'll tell you this, my point, some of those comments that Mr. Brady uh said with the public were a lot of those were mine and purely on a safety issue. We used to as teenagers and as young men called that dead man's curve. I mean, you could actually go out there, witness it right now. People, it's a 45 mph speed limit and they're going 85, you know, and it's a super highway. They're 58th now. I remember when there was crickets, nothing out there. Now it's a super highway. And my concern is as a citizen is not only that we don't h do we have to make every alcohol so accessible for everything we do. I mean do we not have enough places to go to get alcohol? I mean do we have to enter this into this area? I mean it's a matter of common sense. All of you speak up there about public safety. Public safety and you back the blue. You back the blue. Well, as if any of you know right now your APD is setting records right now in the state of Texas on amount of DWIs that

4:53:02 – 4:54:50Speaker 1

they're catching one after the other. They have a fourman task force that are out there kicking butt, saving people's lives because people are driving drunk. They c you can get drunk after having two beers or two wines after playing pickle ball. You can. And if my point is it's dark, you're on 58th, people are hauling ass down 58th and someone impaired or semi-impaired pulling out there. I mean, there's already been serious accidents along there with people who aren't even drunk or even slightly impaired. It's a safety issue with me. Uh it just hits close to home. There's a school just not even a mile away. There's a daycare right there. Uh, I do appreciate the tenants or the leases that are willing to put restrictions on this, but it's not just about the restrictions about at volleyball games and so forth. It's about the safety of we all talk about the safety of our kids. How about the safety of all citizens of Amarillo? You know, if we don't have to do it, then why are we doing it? Why are we working so hard to make things so easy? you know, when if they want a beer, go next door. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Anyone else here today? At this time, we'll close the public hearing. Um, council, any further discussion on item 7.4. Okay. Would entertain a motion. I move to adopt ordinance number 8234.

4:54:49 – 4:55:19Speaker 1

Second. Second. I have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All in favor, please say I. I. I. Any oppose? Nay. Nay. Motion passes with a 3-2 vote. Okay. We're going to we're going to recess here for about 10 minutes. We'll come back in here and finish up the next five items on our non-conent. Thank you.

5:07:25 – 5:07:45Speaker 1

So, um, everybody's here. We're making good time, believe it or not. Make sure we're at 76. Yep. Item Nope. 7.5. Item 7.5. Uh, Mr. your city manager. Is this one you?

5:07:43 – 5:08:58Speaker 1

Yes, mayor. I can cover this. Um, uh, about a week or so ago, the ports to Plains approached the mayor and myself requesting some support. Um, as as you are aware, the ports of Planes is is is leading the effort of trying to trying to uh improve interstate traffic, which which happens to go through Amarillo. They're looking at obviously a bigger area than just us, but we are we are in the path of that trying to expand I27 basically from the Gulf to Canada. And so with this they they have you have a resolution before you today. They are requesting our support to uh to request of the federal government to uh to add a future interstate highway formula funding program to the next um federal surface transportation authorization bill. As you know the US government has has slowed down on interstate development. uh they would like to ask our support to to encourage them to put more funding into that into that section of the bill to to to push for more interstate development in our country. So with this uh the the goal would be to see a porter planes I27 growth through Amarillo. So with this there there's no there's no strings attached to us. This is just our support behind the bigger effort.

5:08:56 – 5:09:36Speaker 1

So council y'all have any questions on that? And then should we speak to that in hearing it quickly for the public to understand we're not we're not raising anything. We're not funding anything. This is just a letter of support for the federal government to put funding toward this effort. Yeah. So think about your text dot dollars and and we want text dot to continue to get those projects shovel ready. That requires years of planning in advance and a lot of coordination. Those dollars do go out into the larger system. Um and we are wanting to attract as many of those here as possible to improve uh traffic growth and infrastructure.

5:09:35 – 5:10:08Speaker 1

Yes. Yeah. There's you'll see that there's there's a lot of interstate interstates east of the Mississippi and not a not a whole lot in the Midwest. You go west of Mississippi. So they're trying to encourage more of that activity as as we're developing in our part of the country. Real good. Councilman, I move to adopt resolution number 1-27-26-1. Second motion and a second on item 7.5. All in favor, please say I. I. I. Any oppose? Motion passes. Item 7.6 is that Mr. Brassfield.

5:10:10 – 5:12:09Speaker 1

Good afternoon, council. Drew Brassfield, assistant director of planning. This item is a first reading uh to consider a resolution of support for Mirror Street Loft LP's application to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs for 2026 competitive 9% housing tax credits. So just a quick recap on the the Housing Tax Credit Program. It's administered by the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs. It directs private capital toward the development and preservation of affordable rental housing for low-income households. and tax credits are awarded to eligible eligible participants to offset a portion of federal tax liability. And there's two types of it, competitive and non-competitive. The program was designed to provide a source of equity financing, maximize the number of affordable units in the state's housing supply, and it ensures that that supply is wellmaintained and operated. It also prevents losses to the state supply of affordable housing. And by receiving a resolution, uh, applicants are able to score more points with their application. So, the Mirror Street Lofts Project is located in the vicinity of North Mirror and Dell Street near the Martin Road Park and the ball fields that are up there. The investment is going to be around 21 million for no less than 85 workforce units. Uh, rent will range somewhere around 1,000 to,300. The majority of these will be at 60% uh, area median income. Uh the complex would include a fitness center, community kitchen, and an activ an an activity room. Project is proposed to stay on the tax roles, and the applicant is seeking the 9% competitive tax credits. So, the request is simply for a resolution of support. Um the only city financial financials that are tied to this is a request for $500 waiver of development fees. Again, the project would remain on the tax roles and if awarded, the tax credits and funds would be coming through the state. Uh, be happy to answer any questions you have on the

5:12:08 – 5:12:47Speaker 1

program and if there's a project specific question, we have Mr. Beard here from the development group. The only reason I bring it back up is just because it is good to hear it again. So, once again, competitive 9% housing tax credit comes from a federal housing tax credit. Correct. Does not come from any incentives local. Uh, no sales tax, property tax, anything like that. Staying on the tax rules. That is correct. Really good. Thank you, sir. I move to adopt resolution 0127262 as presented. Second.

5:12:45 – 5:13:47Speaker 1

Motion and a second. All in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes. Item 7.7, Mr. Kosuba. Mayor and Council, Michael Kashiba, Director of Parks and Recck. Uh, the item before you today is the first reading in consideration of a resolution authorizing participation in the 2026 National Fitness Campaign and authorizing acceptance of the Blue Cross Blue Shield uh grant for 60,000 and a city match of 175,000. Um, we do have a little video just to show you and then just a quick uh couple slides just to walk through it. Uh but this video should explain what the National Fitness Campaign is. It's something that's done obviously nationwide. Um there is a process to be awarded a grant. We went through that process and we were selected as one of the communities in Texas to get that $60,000 grant. So with that, I'll let Stephanie share.

5:13:52 – 5:15:16Speaker 1

We're changing the way America thinks about fitness. From municipal parks and trails to college campuses to high schools nationwide, we're bringing free fitness everywhere and we're just getting started. Hi, I'm Mitch Manag, founder of the National Fitness Campaign. National Fitness Campaign was founded in 1979 when we opened the first fitness court. Redesigned for the 21st century, the Fitness Court is the world's best outdoor gym. Our seven movement, seven minute system allows you to use your own body weight to get the perfect workout. Easy or hard, it will work for you. Our goal is to build healthy communities by making outdoor fitness an essential part of people's lives so that each day is better than the last. Now more than ever before, it is vital that we move fitness outdoors to remain safe, healthy, and strong. Michiganders uh we as soon as we can we go outside which is one of the reasons why the fitness square was such an attraction to us. What impressed us most was their basic philosophy that they want to provide worldclass fitness for free. Truly anyone can use it. No matter what your age is, no matter what your physical fitness level is, no matter what your skills are, it is very adaptable. This fitness court is one of the best things that Senjo has ever done.

5:15:13 – 5:16:34Speaker 1

Thousands of certified ambassadors will be trained to deliver classes, challenges, and clinics as part of our national fitness campaign. New programs are bringing students outdoors across America. The Fitness Cord mobile app is your gateway to enroll in these programs. Simply scan the new digital wall with your phone to access a library of free workouts designed to optimize your experience on the fitness court. Learn the moves and take challenges as we dig deep to create impact for our partners across America. This year we are thrilled to introduce the fitness court studio, the ultimate community wellness hub. Uniting the power of yoga, zumba, bodyweight fitness, and the arts. Fitness Court public art continues to grow and inspire across the country as local artists collaborate to bring beautiful one-of-a-kind murals to Life on Fitness Courts and Fitness Court Studios. We're proud to have helped cities of all sizes raise millions of dollars from respected sponsors to support free fitness. Wherever fitness is a priority, you can find a fitness court. We're partnering with large cities using urban movement data to map the best locations for healthy infrastructure. We're bringing fitness courts to within 10 minutes of population centers everywhere.

5:16:32 – 5:16:50Speaker 1

They provide these wraparound services that from a city's perspective, that's what you want in a partner like this. You want it to come presented to you on a silver platter with a bow tied around. They're one of the best partners I think that I personally have ever worked with.

5:16:47 – 5:18:46Speaker 1

We serve uh almost 1 2 million members across Michigan. And this partnership really is an opportunity for us to bring scalable free health and wellness opportunities for our community. So I would actually invite cities and organizations big and small to explore the opportunity to invest in fitness courts. To be very honest with you, the feedback from different municipalities and different communities has been very positive. We are committed to raise over $1 billion to bring the campaign to 5,000 cities and schools, building the largest outdoor fitness movement in the world. Join us. Let's make worldclass fitness free. So, one of the things that uh we've been working with the National Fitness Campaign on um and I'll show you here in just a second is how we kind of uh analyzed and determined what location was most suitable. Um they actually did a site feasibility for us. Um and so these are some of the things that they look at the the topology, the amenities, trail access. One of the things they don't want to do is put this in a park that has low access, low activity. They really want to put it in a place that already has a lot of activity happening. So when they do that, they look at the equity map, population density, walkability, uh pedestrian activity, cyclist activity, and park open space. And based off of this, this is the the top three parks based off of their evaluation criteria. So John Ward Park ranked the highest at 88%. And you can kind of see the reasoning behind. Uh you're a regional trail. Um you obviously have Ninth Street Trails right there. It's a highly active park. This is probably the most utilized park for walking. Uh being in the hospital district, we see a lot of walkers. We see a lot of of use in the park. Um and then they also evaluate based off that scenic water. So they think that's a nice amenity for people to work out

5:18:44 – 5:19:42Speaker 1

around. You can kind of see John Stiff, Sam Houston, and then here are some other parks that they had also evaluated and kind of scored. Um but obviously the recommendation would be looking at John Ward Park. Uh there is a location where there's currently an old tennis court that's underutilized and that's the location we would be proposing. Um again this is kind of a breakdown. Uh we had presented this to the park board. There's two different options. There's a fitness court and their fitness court studio. Uh the real difference is one has more of a space that you could do programmable classes. So yoga, you know, other activities in the park. uh the park board recommended it unanimously um and that was in the November meeting. So today this is just the the first um reading of the resolution. We would bring back probably at the next meeting obviously if council approves the second reading but then also the agreement to move forward with funding. So be happy to answer any questions.

5:19:39 – 5:20:12Speaker 1

Questions gentlemen. No. Um what's the uh what's the expected cost on it? So, we're looking at about 235,000. There's a little bit more that would come back for installation. Installation is done by one of their network installers. It wouldn't be a part of the initial piece. It's about 37,000. Uh, so you're about 270 plus or minus all in. Okay. Life expectancy. I mean, they've got some from the 1970s. So, still sitting out there looking good. You don't have a lot of maintenance as far.

5:20:11 – 5:20:55Speaker 1

Well, no. The I mean, that's from the National Fitness Campaign. They still have that are out there. Um, we have some standalone systems at Lwood and John Stiff Park where people can actually walk around the park and use those separate circuits. I think this is better because obviously concentrates that activity um and allows you to do more group fitness things like that. Did you say you already identified funding within your budget? Is that correct? Correct. We've got it put into a project and we're ready to fund it. Okay. Is that for all three sites? No, we would just be doing the first one which is John Ward. So, okay. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Koshuba. Item is before you, gentlemen.

5:20:52 – 5:21:06Speaker 1

I move to adopt resolution number 012726-3 is presented. Second. Motion in a second. All in favor, please say I. I.

5:21:02 – 5:23:01Speaker 1

Any opposed? Motion passes. Item 7.8, Miss Coggins. Thank you, mayor and councel. We were notified by the Potter Randle Appraisal District that Daryl Ferman has resigned from the Randall County Appraisal Board. So, we are bringing a resolution today to see if you would like to nominate an individual to be considered to replace Mr. Ferman. So he has a position that will end December 31st, 2027. So they will appoint a member to replace that remaining term. Each taxing unit that was entitled to vote in the ballot that we cast in December of last year is entitled to nominate by resolution a candidate to fill that vacancy. Vacancies are a little different under state law um and the changes that have come about. So if we nominate someone, that person will be forwarded to the board of directors along with any other nominations from any other taxing agencies and the board of directors, the Randall County appraisal board will elect by a majority vote of its members someone from that list to replace Mr. Ferman. So on your screen now is the list of the members of the board of directors. And you'll see in yellow there, the two vacant boxes are the remainder of Mr. Furman's term and I was asked by a couple of elected officials to provide the results in the list of individuals from when we went through the election in December. And so just as a reminder, there were four individuals, Haley Holt and Ginger White were appointed to the board as a result of that election in December. And so they are currently serving. The other

5:22:59 – 5:23:43Speaker 1

two members that were on that ballot were Jack Clauss and Tom Sherlin. the other two candidates, excuse me. And with that, if there are any questions, I can answer for you questions, gentlemen. So, just a nomination from this body and then you have the other How many bodies are there that will make the decision? Another four more. It looks like up to about 10. Oh, 10 more. Oh, they're all listed on that screen right there. I would move to nominate Jack Clauss to replace the vacancy. I'll second.

5:23:42 – 5:24:07Speaker 1

Have a motion and a second. Any discussion? All in favor for the nomination, please say I. I. I. Any oppose? Motion passes. Thank you, ma'am. Okay. Item 7.9, uh, potential change order on our automated metering. Mr. Hartman.

5:24:04 – 5:26:04Speaker 1

Thank you, Mayor and Council. Uh, uh, appreciate the opportunity to present this item. So, what's before you is a potential change order for consideration, uh, change order 4 to the, uh, uh, AMI, automatic metering infrastructure project. So, a little background if you'll recall that uh that project is Texas Water Development Board funded with a $28.5 million loan. Uh the existing uh contract total that's committed between SLCO and Thurkettle is 25,657,75844. That leaves approximately two a little over $2.8 million available on the TWWB loan to fund. What if you'll look at what you have here the change order four being proposed is 1.9 million a little bit over that. So there's uh funding available under the existing project original project estimate to fund this change order. What does this change order proposed to do? Uh there's two primary components. The big the two big items of it uh approximately 450 large meter pits have substantial paving and concrete around them. uh early on in 2022 when we defined the scope uh that was minimized uh that that needs to be added just to have the uh paving around those to be back to the appropriate level. Um those were hard this was not designed by an engineer. We have an engineer of record that helps us with through SL circo but there's not a set of design plans on this. So, this was identified as they went through the meter process. Okay. Uh where they're at today, uh there's 7,411 meters of 79,639 left. So, it's 91% complete. Uh so that

5:26:02 – 5:28:01Speaker 1

through that process of putting in over 90% of the meters we've identified this need to enhance this uh and move forward with those costs to have that paving done. The second most costly thing of this is changing uh 960 of the 1-inch meters to uh brass meter. uh over the last two years there were concerns brought by citizens about uh the composite meters uh specifically about freezing. Uh we haven't seen that manifest but we have moved forward such that we have both types in this and that's the second most costly part of the change order. It also comes with the contractor's responsibilities for the extension through May uh of of this year. So through change orders one and two one two and three we had extended the time to December. So we need that time move to May. Uh the contract in change order one was primarily with requirements for uh uh the Texas Water Development Board loan and the contractor including Davis Bacon and other requirements like that. Change order two and three were related to expanded scope of meters and and other costs related to expansion of the scope. Uh so what we would wind up with would be a commitment leaving uh just at $900,000 of the original loan not committed. Now remember this is TWWB loan funded. So uh the review engineer our our our uh engineer record sends it to the Texas Water Development Board review engineer. It's been through that process such that it has been deemed to qualify for funding and meet the original scope of the project. So once you approve, if you find it acceptable to approve this change order, then that

5:27:58 – 5:28:35Speaker 1

will go back to the uh TWWD engineer to submit for final processing such that the funding is made available to the city. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Any questions for Mr. Hartman? Is this your last presentation? Yes, sir. No. So out of 32 years, this is the end. So do we need to ask a lot of questions and drag this out? Sure. He says you got what the two the two minute the two hour or the two month

5:28:33 – 5:29:17Speaker 1

there there's a there's a there's a fourminute a four day and a fourmon version of every answer that I have. We are aware I think what Mr. tips is saying is could you please tell us about water saturated thickness in our wellfield services area? It started it started back take us back to like in the 80s where you I was going to go back to the formation of the Rocky Mountains. Okay. Okay. Dave Henry, do you have control over his mic? We might be here all night. So I'm not sure that we can turn that one off. Um Okay. Well, uh the the change order seems large. So Mr. Dr. Hartman, is there a lot of paving multiple locations?

5:29:14 – 5:29:48Speaker 1

Yes. Uh you can imagine meter vaults for the larger meters, especially uh being in a what would you consider a manhole and when they're in paving, that's going to take significant excavation to take all of that out and put that in. Uh and so those quantity adjustments of meters and change order uh number two typically included these larger meters. Uh we had originally thought that we would be able to get city staff to do some of this

5:29:44 – 5:30:44Speaker 1

but uh it just has never manifested such that uh that's occurred. Uh also uh you are limited in what qualifies for the funding to what the original loan requirements were. And this is a uh this was a clean water revolving fund loan. So it's in wastewater. uh we were able to get that. Remember, it's at 0% interest. Uh so it would have to be a qualifying event. Even if you don't award this and we took another approach, it would take longer uh and probably would require uh actually adding a crew in the next budget to do it and complete it. Uh but this way you get your your ability for all your customers, save a few. This does not include meters out in the wellfield and outside the city that are are remote. Those are still going to be dealt with with the city crew plan. Does that answer your question?

5:30:41 – 5:31:08Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Okay, gentlemen. Any further questions? Considerations before you. I move that we consider the change order number four to automated metering infrastructure implementation. Second. Okay. Okay, I have a move to approve and a second by place four. All in favor, please say I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes.

5:31:07 – 5:31:50Speaker 1

Mayor, real quick, if I may, um, unfortunately, like last time, we have lost the video of this meeting here. We we we have audio. People can see the screens, but they can't see individual people talking. So, uh, we we can we can proceed as that if you'd like because we have we have a pretty heavy slide presentation this next one here. Or if you'd like to, we we could we could pause, reset the system again, and then see if that works. Um, we are down to our last item. Yes. Uh, we have our contractor here. It's a construction manager at risk item. Um, this will require one reading or multiple readings. Just the one. Just the one. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Um,

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right now the staff are recommending we keep rolling just in case if we shut it down, we may lose more. Okay. Um, we'll move forward with the audio and then uh as much on the detailed slides as you can give us back there, Kristen. Be great. So, thank you. I got the thumbs up. Okay. Um, who is bringing this item forward? Is

5:32:08 – 5:34:06Speaker 1

I can introduce it first and then it will be uh Jerry after that. I think it's very fitting too that the cameras quit working during Floyd's last presentation. I think that was probably part of it. Uh, you broke the cameras, Floyd. Uh so let's before Jerry speaks, I want to brag a little bit. Um first of all on council and on what we've been able to do over the past couple years. This this project right here, these two projects relate back to the 2023 uh 40 plus million dollars that council uh gave us to work on drainage projects that were of significant issue across the community. So the past couple of years we spent a lot of time planning for and getting ready for this moment here uh for two of the largest projects I think that'll make the most significant impact uh to Amarella's drainage issues and that is the Lawrence Lake project and the Ply 7 project. So Jerry and his team have been working really hard on this. I want to take that moment just to to say thank you to council for one for supporting uh these projects because they are truly going to make a difference. So with that I'll turn it over to Mr. Danforth our director of capital projects and development engineering. Mayor, council, I agree with Mr. Hooper. Uh this is this is a big project and it is going to make a huge impact in our community uh going forward. We currently have uh engineering contracts in place with two different firms, freeze nickels and half engineering uh one on PIA 6 and one on PIA 7. As we go through this, I'll give you some highlights. Uh but it's you will see the impact to the community as we go through. So we're actually addressing the two plies as representative PI 6 and PI 7. PIA 6 being Lawrence Lake. Um everybody remembers the impacts that we had that you guys took appropriate action to move forward on quickly. what we have uh as a construction

5:34:03 – 5:36:02Speaker 1

manager at risk. We utilize this platform basically to control pricing to get value engineering and to move the project forward in a quicker manner. Using a CM in this scenario allows us to also uh accelerate different scopes of the project. So we'll go through the scopes and uh take a look at it. the we did the RFP process. Uh we received multiple biders through the RFP, reviewed and opened those on December 3rd. Two were received that were qualified. The recommendation before you today is to award it to Western Builders of Amarillo. The benefits of using a CM are obviously early contractor involvement to assist with the design and cost estimating to establish a GMP so that we can come back to you with that contract for approval for the guaranteed maximum price on these two projects combined allows us to do early release on bid packages. And as we go through the design, you'll see where we can talk about potential fasttracking to take place through the construction project. Design engineering, as I stated, was with Freeze Nichols. Their scope was 8,500 linear feet of 30inch force man from the new pump station to Bell Street. New 15 million gallon daily pump stations to be enclosed in a metal building, wet well intakes, and self-cleing screens, electrical equipment instrument instrumentation and reporting cap capacity tied into the existing network that drainage currently has. We are also, and this comes back to the shovel ready stuff that we'd referenced in the past, we're doing the pumping of Lawrence at this point in time, but we are also moving ahead with

5:36:00 – 5:37:58Speaker 1

the designs for the uh Western Plaza Drive, uh, bank stabilization, outfall repairs, and even there at Western and Olsson. What you're looking at here is what the P station layout will look like. uh there at the property that you approved us to purchase uh two months ago. This basically sits right there on the on the frontage of uh I40. As you can see represented in here, three large pumps to uh pump that lake. Moving forward, we also took into account in working with our engineers. You see the new 30-in force man to parallel the existing 15-inch main that is currently there. We are not abandoning that. Nor are we abandoning the turbine pump that is currently there. However, that is not included in the calculations that I represented earlier. That's the representations from the new pump station. So, we have existing capacity in there still to pump through that 15 going forward. reconstruct and stabilize the bank. We've noticed, as you can see highlighted there in blue, some problems with that bank stabilization there along that road. We're getting that design uh done with freeze nickels currently. Uh the design to repair the nine uh storm water outfalls uh to mitigate the erosion that we're seeing around the lake in those outfall areas. As we go through this, the value of the CR for us and for the city of Amarillo is for us to get that GMP if we can realize enough savings. This allows us to come in and pick off those additional projects that will already be shovel ready and ready to go to work. What we have is the preliminary outline on the timelines and we look to escalate this. This is a conservative view, but you can see where we're at. And this meets the profile and the requirements

5:37:57 – 5:39:28Speaker 1

of the bond for us to have the bond completely funded and utilized before the end of the time frames before it has a chance to affect us. Where we are currently, the survey and subservice uh utility engineering is complete uh with freeze and nichls. The geotech BS are complete. Preliminary design is complete. uh the 60% completion of the force main design. We're at 90% force main design is in progress currently. This is where the CM coming in and doing the value engineering brings additional value to us in in the city. 60% of the pump station bankization and designs are in progress. As you can see, once we get those complete, we anticipating having those complete concurrently while we're doing construction and bringing before you the GMP ply 7. What we're looking at with half engineering on that is 14,000 linear foot of 20-in force man, new pump station, including intake piping, wet well, uh all of the same stuff that we have on Lawrence with the CM. This allows us to coordinate with two different engineering firms to get a uniform design that we can see through value engineering taking a look to see if we're buying a larger volume maybe we get better pricing and we will take that approach going forward.

5:39:25 – 5:39:57Speaker 1

Mayor, if I may real quick, um Brian's had a chance to look at some more information on the legal side. We may need to pause this conversation to reset the system. We need to try to fix it real quick as he was doing some quick quick looking real quick and as as it's a matter of ands and ors in the in the in the language there. And so I think we need to try to fix this and I think we need to restart the presentation. We can get this fixed. I apologize. Um but I recommend that we pause this and see if we can't fix the issue real quick.

5:39:54 – 5:41:36Speaker 1

Okay. Uh council, we're going to take a 10-minute recess. Come back in 10 minutes. We'll see if we got it fixed. Thank you. Somebody put a robach out. around. They don't go live in the yard anywhere. Somebody was saying

5:42:21 – 5:43:31Speaker 1

like we're ready to talk too We're talking about That's good, man. had to come say hi.

5:43:28Speaker 1

You too. How's it going?

5:43:42Speaker 1

Oh, no. Are you serious? started.

5:43:56 – 5:44:33Speaker 1

So, so good. Yeah, this project's Well, don't be surprised if I'm on a tractor. Yeah,

5:44:31 – 5:44:50Speaker 1

that's right. That's the hope. I think it'll be good. office. Yeah, we finally got our but it's really nice.

5:44:57 – 5:45:22Speaker 1

This is nice. This is really nice. How's it going? How are you doing? Good. You all got it going. If the system would break, we'd be nice. That's right. Brian thinks I broke the system.

5:45:23 – 5:45:43Speaker 1

You want me to Can I still say please do

5:45:48 – 5:46:16Speaker 1

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back live. If I can get everybody called back into session here. We're going to jump back in with a brief review from uh Mr. Danforth. Get us caught back up to where we were. Okay, Mr. Hoop, go ahead. Unless you want me to replay what I said earlier, I would, but

5:46:14 – 5:48:14Speaker 1

it would have to deal with Floyd breaking the camera, and we don't want to repeat that. So, go ahead, Jerry. Well, as we stated before and and and I think it's still important that everybody hears this major success from the council pushing this forward crit two critical projects going forward PLA 7 and Ply 6 C contract approval is what we're looking at today. But to give you an update on where we're at in the process and understand the impact that you're fixing to make on the city itself. The locations we're looking at PIA 6 which is Lawrence Lake and PIA 7 South on Sansi. Uh we released the RFP on November 4th. Uh open bids for the RFP on December 3rd. There were two received bids. Uh the recommended award was to Western Builders of Amarillo. Uh it's important to understand the benefits of using a construction manager at risk in this scenario. Uh because we are working with two engineering firms on two different construction projects, having one contractor to work with us to do value engineering on both projects and also to uh control uh the designs going forward that would be beneficial to both projects as well. This allows us to do uh early bid packages with the contractors and with the engineers moving forward so that we can start on different phases at different times on both projects simultaneously. The design engineer on Lawrence Lake Ply 6 is Frieza Nichols. Their scope is 8,500 uh linear foot of 30 inch force man from the new pump station on Bell Street. Uh the new 15 million gallons a day pump station is enclosed in a metal building including the wet well and all of the components that are critical for that

5:48:12 – 5:50:10Speaker 1

operation. The electrical equipment instrumentation that ties back into uh drainage utilities. All of that reporting is in place and enhanced. We are also working with freeze and nickels to do shovel ready projects on this. Uh those projects include the bank stabilization along western plaza drive outfall repairs and other and western and Olsen. Taking a look at those pia 6 Lawrence Lake. This would be the pump station layout. You can see that we have three large pumps in there to achieve that kind of an outflow going forward. You'll see reflected here the new 30-in uh force man that will run up to Bell Street. The majority of that will be bored in uh not open trench going forward. So we'll be boring that in. Uh we will keep the existing 15inch pipe which is on the turbine pump which currently sits inside of Lawrence Lake. So the reflected MGDs only reflect what we're talking about with regards to the new pump station. The other projects, like I said, we're trying to get uh shovel ready. Uh the reconstructive and bank stabilizations. Um we want we need to repair nine outflow outflows into that lake. Uh they're eroding and need to be replaced and uh reconditioned as well as uh some other components of that project. What you're looking at here is the timeline. This timeline is a conservative timeline. It's a very realistic timeline. We feel though in working with the CM and with our engineers, we can accelerate this and and as a matter of fact, we'll be working with them starting tomorrow as a group. The survey is complete. Subsurface engineering is complete. Uh the

5:50:08 – 5:52:01Speaker 1

geotechnical bores are complete. The preliminary design is complete. 60% of the design for the force main is complete. Uh we expect 90% design to happen within the next 30 to 40 days. Uh 60% complete on the pump station uh design and bank stabilization as well. Ply 7 which is down on the south side of Sony that design engineer is half engineering. Their scope is 14,000 linear foot of 20inch force man. New pump station which will be very similar to what we're putting in at Lawrence Lake as well. Some additional dredging that will take place at at PIA 7 uh to divert the water to the pump station to allow us to have a cleaner installation. What you're looking at here is that this was the first design. I do not have the completed secondary or alternate design. The alternate design actually comes away from the park that you see represented there and continues down Sony to the south side of the lake. That's where you're looking at the additional dredging to bring that that uh water level over to the new pump station. We feel like that could clean the project up quite a bit and also stop our impact coming back to the to the east from Sansi. We should we anticipate having a clear direction on that within the next 30 days for that alternate path and see what the cost savings would be for us utilizing it that way. So as you can see we're constantly working on value engineering throughout the process on this with our engineering groups and with our CMs. With that I'd be happy to entertain any questions that you have.

5:51:59 – 5:52:33Speaker 1

Questions gentlemen. So just so on the the Lawrence Lake with with our current pumping equipment, what is our capacity for pumping and what will the new equipment allow us to do right now with Lawrence Lake? And I'm going to get Mr. Harter up here uh with um drainage. he has more accurate numbers for what they're currently doing, but our we are anticipating diverting to where all of our drainage not only splits at Lawrence Lake, but we're trying to get to where everything moves back to the West Bell Street. So,

5:52:31 – 5:53:06Speaker 1

yes, sir. So, our our existing pump station does about 3,000, we measure it different gallons per minute. Um, I don't have my calculator on me, but it's it's about a third, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. We just got about a third of what the new pump station will be. So this new pump station will be a significant improvement in the amount of water that we can remove from Lawrence Lake. So three times as much water per minute, which would help avoid the situations that we've had before. And then but then also the larger force mans are required because we're pumping more out. Instead of pumping it out on 15s, we have to pump it out 30.

5:53:04 – 5:53:28Speaker 1

Yes, sir. The existing force man wouldn't be able to handle the kind of flow that the new pump station would put to it. And then um what will uh what will life be like on Eric during this construction for the residents on there? Will they have access to the street? Is it is it a major hindrance or what what will it look like so we can forewarn them what's coming?

5:53:25 – 5:54:01Speaker 1

We we we definitely will be putting out press releases going forward, but the fact that we're boring will less lessen that impact. Uh we're not going to be doing open cut trenching down through there. And that was ultimately the goal that we could really control that as best we could. Now, you can only bore so many linear feet before you have to open a pit and move your boring machine, especially with a 30-inch line. So, we will have some impact, but not to the degree that we would have been looking at had we done an open trench. Okay. Thank you. Any other questions, gentlemen?

5:53:58 – 5:54:28Speaker 1

Is the pump station going on the land we acquired? Is that that is that what we're going to build that thing? the the land you acquired two months ago is where we'll be setting that pump station. It's basically right in between Discount Tire and uh that little strip mall to the west. What about that that corner that we acquired what last year? That corner that I think it was over on Lake View. Yeah, it's over on Lake View that we talked about, you know, excavating, but it didn't really it would have

5:54:26 – 5:55:08Speaker 1

That's across the You're talking about the one that's across the lake over there? Yeah, we still own that property. Um, and basically what it does, it helps us with flood mitigation because no one can build on there because we own it, right? The second piece of that is that when we looked at excavating that, um, that was that was the original idea. Excavate that out, maybe put a bump station on that side, the cost was prohibitive for us to use that and we could get more water out the other way. Um, and and really what you gained in excavation of that, I think if you looked in the flood plane, and Allan could correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it lowered that water depth in the actual flood zone by about a quarter of an inch. It wasn't It was no impact. That's right. It was a very small amount, less than a tenth of an inch.

5:55:07 – 5:55:29Speaker 1

It makes sense to put it where it is now for the force the new force main so we're not having to travel through there and do that. It just makes sense where Correct. Okay. It's also much easier access off the I40 frontage road. If you remember when we did have the flooding, uh large parts of Olsen were underwater. Uh and we would have had to go through that to get to this pump station, whereas the site there on I40, uh wouldn't be.

5:55:27 – 5:56:09Speaker 1

So that piece of property that we purchased, I think it's Lake View over on that other area once we mitigate the the flooding risk over there with the additional pumps. Do we want to look at the potential of putting that back up for sale and just revenue that back in or do you have a a future use for it? I wouldn't I wouldn't think so because of where it sets within the flood plane. That's one of the first areas that's going to flood. So, what it does for us is it helps us keep from having some business in there that's going to flood eventually if you have something like that. But, um yeah, I don't think that we would want to put that back on the market once we front property. I don't know. I know. Build something on steel. Mit flood issues. We can put you in office over there. Perfect.

5:56:05 – 5:56:47Speaker 1

Yes, sir. Name it after somebody. Okay. Um All right. Really good. Well, I don't know that I have any questions. Anybody else have any questions for Mr. Danforth? Okay. Item 7.10 is before you gentlemen. I move to award the construction manager rest services for new lift stations and force mains at Ply 6 and Ply 7. Second motion and a second from place one. Any further discussion? All in favor, please say I. I. I. Any opposed? Motion passes with a 50- vote. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? Move to adjurnn in a second. Second. Second.

5:56:46Speaker 1

You're adjourned. Thank you guys. Appreciate you ladies and gentlemen.

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