City Council - Regular Meeting

The Economic Workforce and Planning Development Committee agenda June the 30th, 2026. I'm the chairman. President is Mr. Fowler and Mr. Larvidance. 4.45 p.m. Alexander City Council meetings and Council Committee meetings are broadcast live and may be viewed live by the public on Optimum Cable Channel 4. A rebroadcast may be viewed on Optimum Cable Channel 4 and the City of Alexandria website, www.cityofalexandrialuisiana.com. Our item on the agenda is to hear an update from the administration on tax adjudicated property. Mr. Gist.

Thank you, Mr. Green, members of the committee. You probably have before you some preliminary information from the administration on what to set out some information bringing the council up to date on the status of the adjudicated properties and related matters in the city. When the tax rolls were received by the city business office in November, the tax assessor noted that at that time and approximately through the present, the city has adjudicated tracks that are on the tax rolls. Those will be the going forward, they will not be called adjudicated tracks going forward, Mr Green. There were significant legislative changes made in the 24 and 25 legislature which became effective January 1st. And the state has now gone to a different type of system to handle adjudicated tracts. They'll no longer be adjudicated tracts. We're now gone to a tax lien certificate method of handling properties. That is significant because it is a complete change in the way adjudicated properties have been handled, Mr. Lardin. Going forward, and I'll give an example. When people, when property owners did not pay their taxes that were due at the end of December, this year, for the first time, the city conducted a tax lien certificate auction. The tax lien certificate auction resulted in 132 parcels being purchased by tax lien certificate purchasers. There were 320 I'm sorry, 384 parcels that there was no bid made. That's what used to be called adjudicated tracks. So in addition to the 2,251 adjudicated tracks we had before on January 1st, the city now is holding tax lien certificates on an additional 384 pieces of property. Yes, sir.

Can you please explain how the old process works and now tell us how the new process works?

Okay. Yes, sir. Good question. Under the old process, the way it worked was if someone failed to pay, a property owner failed to pay their property taxes when they were due on December 31st, if they didn't pay them by after receiving additional notices, in May there would be a tax sale. which was what was called adjudicated properties. People would come and they would, at the public sale, they would acquire a tax sale title. That doesn't happen anymore. Now, what a tax sale title meant was that the tax sale purchaser had a right to receive repayment of the taxes that were paid after the auction. plus the penalty and they received interest at 1% a month, which was a pretty attractive interest payment. What would happen is people would go in and at tax auctions they would buy the property for tax sale. The tax property owner had a right to redeem the property for at least three years. If they redeemed the property, the person that went to the tax sale Mr Larvidane, they got the money back. After three years, if a property owner did not pay the taxes, then the tax sale purchaser could file something called an active monition to quiet title.

I know as lawyers we understand the phrase quiet title. We have laypersons in here listening. What does that mean?

Well, that would be a procedure where a property purchaser at a tax sale would come in and show the judge that the taxes had not been paid, a period of time had run over three years, and that the tax sale purchaser had been in possession of the property. doing that time, and this is the way it used to work, it doesn't work this way anymore, doing that time each year, the tax sale purchaser would get the tax notice, not the property owner. And that person could continue to pay the taxes on it. Now, that's not the way it happens now. The tax sale purchaser could, but yeah. Right. And if he paid the taxes for three years, was in possession, And sometimes nobody would ever show up. So they would file a motion for monition. That would be a procedure where he or she wanting to quiet title would have to show the court that in fact the property owner hadn't paid the taxes and nobody had showed an interest and the property owner would want to be placed in possession of the property. And that would happen. The If they did not file monition, Mr Larvidang, they could continue to pay taxes on it. The tax property, actual tax debtor, after three years, had limited rights. They might sometimes, if the tax sale purchaser wanted to, He could just get paid off or he could still file the monition. The tax sale purchasers, they used to actually go and rent the property. They would tell people in the house they had to pay rent. Now, all that's changed, Mr Green. As of January 1st, that's not the way it works anymore. Now it doesn't go through the conveyance books and this is going to lead up to something I'm going to mention in a minute. There's no deed filed, no tax sale deed filed now. It's now placed in the mortgage books and the tax lien holder still has a right to be paid off. But property owners continue now, Mr Lauderdale, as of January 1st, now the property owners will continue to be having... They still have the obligation to pay the taxes. But they'll now get notice. And they'll get the tax bill. The property owner will get the tax bill now. Now, the difference is they still have a right for three years to pay... to redeem the property or extinguish the tax liens. Anybody follow?

I think it's 18 months that the property is condemned.

There's different time periods regarding the notices that you have to pay. One difference they've got now as of January 1st is after three years you have to file something to enforce the tax lien because the tax lien certificates, if they're held by private parties, they preempt after the seventh year. So between the third year and the end of the sixth year, There's a three-year period now since January 1st where someone holding a tax title has to use it and has to bring it. The other thing is no longer the way it used to work under the adjudicated property was you did an action to quiet title, the sheriff could give you a tax title. The way it works now is what you can do is you can ask the judge to to require the property owner to pay the taxes or the property will be sold and anybody can buy the property at the second sale.

Does that make sense? It makes perfect sense because I can see that prevents from having damaged titles now.

Yeah. Now, the good news is that people who have owned property, the families, you know, when your grandmama dies and You didn't know that she didn't pay the taxes. The tax bill will still come to you, and you have a right to continue to pay those taxes at any time. And if you pay the taxes and pay the penalty, you're okay. Now, the legislature has created in the act, and gentlemen, this law was initially done in 24, and I think it's It was a number of changes to Title 47. It's 81 pages and it's pretty involved, Mr Green. The legislature came along in 25 and did corrections in Act 411 and 25 and that's another 55 pages of changes to Title 47. So the whole procedure has been changed. What y'all have now is a tax lien certificate system. We will no longer have the tax adjudications in the sense, Mr Lord, that we're not going to receive any more tax adjudicated properties, but we sort of have a backlog of these 2,000. Now, remember, Mr Green, Mr Fowler, anyone can still pay their taxes off. So that 2,251 adjudicated tracts, we're hoping every one of them, property owners come in and redeem. And for three years, going back to 22, we can't do anything with the property anyway. But one of the things the legislature has done, and they reiterated this in Act 401, Mr. Lauderdale, which is going to be effective on August 1st, is now the governing authorities of each political subdivision may allow an adjoining landowner to purchase adjudicated property for any price set by the governing authority without public bidding at a public meeting of the governing authority provided the governing authority of an applicable political subdivision determines the adjoining landowner has maintained the adjudicated property for a period of one year prior to the sale.

All right, Mr. Gibbs, can you stop right there? Put that in layman's terms.

Okay. What that means is assuming that the city has had an adjudicated track or what's now called a tax lien certificate track for at least three years. So that process doesn't apply for the old law, just the new? No, it applies to both of them. Okay, to both. This applies to both, and I'm going to get to that in a minute.

Okay.

We still have a three-year period where a property owner has... Anyone can come in and pay the tax on their property or their grandmother's property. And I'm just using the fictitious grandmother as an example. Okay. Even with the current law, that's the case. Now, what the legislature has provided also, and this is important... is the governing authorities around the state, in other words, the city council, if it chooses, can convert by ordinance the 2,200 lots we've previously had as adjudicated tracts, they can be converted to tax lien certificate tracts. Now, one of the things we were doing was waiting to see all the legislation that would come through. And remember, gentlemen, New laws go in effect on August the 1st, so the most recent changes will be in effect in a few weeks, six weeks. What the legislature also did was they changed the court cost for filing, so when we go to convert property, or when we do a tax sale auction and we receive tax lien certificates, it costs $105 for each tract. So this May when we acquired the number of tracts, we just had to pay $105 for each one. But everybody in the state, Mr. Green, every political body has to do that, including the parishes. If we were to just wholesale convert today all 2,200 tracks, it would cost us, in court costs alone, $472,000. So what we're recommending and we're working on with some recommendations from the administration is some new legislation, new ordinances to address some of these issues which the administration will be bringing down to you because most of our procedures in our code of ordinances, Mr Green, are too old now to apply to the new procedures so we have to make changes so the administration is working on those. We couldn't make the changes until the because they were still tinkering with this, that we didn't want to have to change it again. We also want to work, and we are in discussions with the police jury, on how to continue to deal with the current adjudicated tracts. As you all know, we, for a number of years, have been working with a cooperative endeavor, and since 2021, the city, along with the parish, has sold 113 adjudicated properties. We want to continue having a method whereby we can dispose of adjudicated tracts eventually. We want to work with the Rapides Parish Police Jury and the other stakeholders to come up with a fair, practical way because, remember, A lot of the property we have are double assessed. In other words, the parish has an assessment and there's one with the city. Probably if they didn't pay the city tax, they also didn't pay the parish tax.

Yes, I had a scenario. A lady called me about a piece of property next door to her that she has maintained for three years, cutting the property, the two lots, and also paying the taxes. I knew we were going to talk about this today. So she was wondering how could she become the owner of that property since she's been doing what you just said, paying the taxes, maintaining the property. So that's where I wanted to see what she needed to do.

And you and I would both assume the track has been adjudicated to the city. Yes. Okay. It's possible. Now, first, it has to be for at least three years. We can't do anything to divest people, even under the old law. But let's make... I'm going to add some facts to your scenario. We're going to assume that track has been adjudicated for seven or eight years. A lot of these tracks, Mr Larviday knows this, a lot of these tracks are adjudicated back to 1974 when the new Constitution went into effect. These 2,200 tracks we've got, perhaps including the lot your lady's talking about, that could have been adjudicated 15 years ago. If that's the case, then And we think we're going to have to do this on a case-by-case basis. There's going to have to be a method set up so that people can approach the city, request to receive at least an interest in the property. We would then sit down with them, figure out if they are the adjoining property owner, if they have maintained the property for the requisite one year. And then there will be an ordinance passed which can convey the title eventually to the homeowner who's sitting next to that. Now, that's in a perfect world. We still have to make some... Internally, Mr. Green, we think, and we're working on this with the legal department now, we're working on procedures. Some cities call this mow to grove. I think that's been what they refer to it. There's all kinds of names but a lot of cities are looking at this, Mr Green, for a method particularly in neighbourhoods to return property to commerce so that like the little lady that may be talking to you, that may be the ideal best example of someone who would be qualified and who the city would want to consider with an ordinance to convey some title to that person.

All right. Thank you, Director. Thank you.

Well, that's what brought about these, all these changes. It started with Mennonite, what we call the Mennonite notice requirements, and

Essentially, Louisiana, our legislature, this is not something we can do locally. It's done by the state because Title 47 is state law. They tried in 2008 a new system. It just didn't seem to work. And the legislators have spent a lot of time and effort in the 24 session as well as the 25 session to come up with this method. And Mr Fowler, they also set that it would not be, both these acts were not effective until January the 1st this year, 26. That was because the legislature was studying this and they did some corrective legislation and Mr... Senator Miller offered Act Number 96 which was a technical amendment to the two bills he previously had done and the...

Representatives in Baton Rouge, I think it was Denise Marcel, she had this additional legislation that I mentioned a minute ago.

And we think, and what we're hearing, is that the legislators now feel that they have a system that local governments, police juries, and cities can now respond to. bit of work but it's going to take it will take some corrective ordinances both for two things we have to come up with a method for how we will handle it internally within the city but we also have to have a method where we can work with the parish with the requirements for dates and all that in there after about three years should this all settle out i'm sorry just referring back to the time limits on the different

areas that you were talking about would take approximately three years for all this to settle out. Oh, no.

No, no. Some of this we can begin to address this hopefully by as early as this fall, particularly on tracks that we've held for adjudicated tracks that maybe are 10 years old. Now, we don't recommend we do anything on tracks that were just recently adjudicated or particularly like the ones that we just got the tax lien certificates on? Got to wait on those. I know our business manager is writing these 300 people, trying to get them paid. And we're trying to do that. But the other thing, which, as y'all are aware, And y'all appropriate a lot of money every year just to keep these properties up.

And that's my next question because then I've got two questions. One is I want to know how much we have tied up in these 2200 properties and I'd like for the administration to give me that number.

I would have to get that information to get it back to you. There's some of the lots that we've held for a long time that we cut on a regular basis. Some lots we just acquired so that we don't have much of any. Now, remember, too, there are some of these lots that we have demolition liens on. So I would have to take it out that. I think what you're wanting is not just the demolition cost but what is the typical budget expenditures To keep up the properties like grass cutting is the best way to put it.

It's my appreciation that given the fact that we have so many, it may take 10 to 12, 15 days, maybe even three weeks for us to cut that lot again.

Or it could be longer depending if it's raining or bad weather.

It could be so. All right. Also, CivicSource. I'm told CivicSource is in bankruptcy and it's defunct.

Is that correct? I've heard something. Let's put it this way. We're not doing business with Civic Source right now. I also have heard what you've heard. I know that they're having some difficulty. Civic Source was the company that the parish was using. Right now there is not a current contract that the parish is using. That's one of the things that the police jury is looking at. And we want to work with them. We don't want to have our own situation adverse to what the police... That makes sense.

It makes no sense to reinvent the wheel. All right. So you answered my civic source question. You're going to get to us how much money we got tied up in all these properties.

Now, when you... Let me just... Because I'll ask specifically, do you want to know how much has been spent in a year or what you're currently budgeting?

Well, just overall what we got tied up in all these properties. I'm quite sure it's millions of dollars. How long a period do you want to have? I mean...

Yeah, I can... Let me look and see what information we can get that's responsive to your inquiry.

Yeah, because it would be nice if we can kind of cut that number in half. Hopefully we can work on doing it. I wouldn't say that, but like just to cut the number of adjudicated properties we have and find a way to get those back into commerce. Because it would be nice to go from spending money to those properties, making money for the city and property taxes.

Yeah, because remember, we're not getting... Most of these UDK tracts, nobody's paying their taxes on them.

Okay? All right. Well, when do you think you'll have, I guess, a follow-up for us, Mr...?

The administration is working right now with the city attorney on the I know that they have to address the situation that Mr. Green alluded to. We need a procedure pretty quick where we can go with people who are maintaining property adjacent to their homes. I think that would be probably the first thing y'all would want to look at. But really, we also need to come up and make some decisions. We're not asking y'all to put up $400,000 to convert all these tracts today. But we probably are going to want to convert some tracts to tax lien certificates at some point, and we'll address that with y'all.

All right. Thank you.

This committee meeting is adjourned. Thank you.

Call to order Tuesday, June 30th, 2026 in the City Council Chamber. Alexandria City Council meeting and Council Committee meeting to broadcast live. It may be viewed live by the public on Optum Cable Channel 4. A rebroadcast may be viewed on Optum Cable Channel 4 in the City of Alexandria website. We're going to have an invitation by Mr. Jules and a pledge by Councilwoman

Father God, we thank you for this day. We ask that you come within these walls and help us blend our minds to the betterment of this community, this parish, this state, and make this country a much better place. Father God, we just ask that you give us undivided wisdom to move forward. In your name, your son's name, amen. Amen.

Join me in the pledge.

vote call.

Mr. Johnson?

Here.

Ms. Felter? Here. Mr. Green? Present. Mr. Fowler? Here. Mr. Lauderdale? Here. Ms. Ferry?

Here. Madam President, you have a quorum. Okay. We'll move up minutes taken from the regular meeting, held on June 16th. Need a motion and a second?

Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed? Second. Second by Councilwoman Felter. Public comments? Public comments. What section of the written minutes would you like to make a comment on? If it is not in the written minutes, there will not be any discussion or comments only on the minutes. If you have any questions pertaining to any item on the agenda, please contact the administration before or after the meeting. Discussion? Public comment? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

F, consent calendar. Number one, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept a low bid submitted for any uniform for the fire department. Number two, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low bid submitted for three-phase pad mount. Number three, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low bid submitted for spun, pre-stressed, wood pole, equivalent concrete pole for the electric distribution department. Number four, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low bid submitted for single-phase pole mount. Number five, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept a low bid submitted for single-phase pad mount. Number six, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept a low bid submitted for chlorination and dechlorination equipment. Number seven, introduction of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept a low bid submitted for the health care clinic building renovation. Number eight. Introduction of an ordinance to accept the recommendation of the city attorney and to authorize the city attorney to sell and compromise the matter of Maya Landry versus City of Alexandria and Maya Trent and Hammerman and Gaynor LLC, docket number 276743, Division D, Ninth Street District Court, Rapides Parish and otherwise to provide with respect thereto. Number nine, introduction of an Introduction of an ordinance to accept the recommendation of the city attorney and to authorize the city attorney to settle and compromise the matter, Debbie Smith and Max Smith v. Timothy Foreman in the City of Alexandria, Doctrine No. 275-767, Division F, Nigel District District Court, Rapids Parish and otherwise, to provide with respect thereto. Number 10, introduction of an ordinance to accept the recommendation of the city attorney And to authorize the city attorney to sell and compromise the matter, McAleenan, Guillory v. City of Alexandria and Charles Love, Jr., docket number 280797, Division F, Ninth District Court, Rapids Parish, and otherwise supervise with respect thereto. Number 11, Introduction of an Ordinance Authorizing Acceptance of Federal Transit Administration, FTA, Section 5307 Funding through the Louisiana Department of Transportation and Development, DOTD, for Transit Operating Assistant and Automatic Passengers, APC System for the Alexander Transit System, ATRANS. Number 12, introduction of an ordinance to rezone 3511 England Drive, Alexandria, Louisiana, from a MHP mobile home parking zone district to a PD planned development zone to allow for mobile home And ROVs for lots 9 through 20, 37 through 48, and lot 57 at an existing mobile home park. Number 13, introduction of an ordinance to rezone 58 Hyman Lane, Alexandria, Louisiana from a B2 community business to a C1 limited commercial zoning district to allow for commercial parking.

motion please move second by council member Lloyd second by councilman Fowler any items to committee number seven please

8, 9, and 10 will be an executive session? Correct. Okay.

8, 9, and 10 will be an executive session in two weeks. Okay. Number 14, resolution confirming the appointment of Louis Love to serve on the City of Alexandria zoning commission.

Moved.

Second.

Moved by Councilman Fowler, seconded by Councilman Lombardine. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Is he here to speak?

I know Mr Bussey is over there.

I'm Robert Bussey.

I'm his law partner. I'm sorry.

Robert Bussey and I'm Mr Love's law partner and he graciously accepts.

Okay. Thank you. Number 15. Resolution accepting the Louisiana compliance questionnaire for audit year ending April 30th, 2026. Motion, please. Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed. Second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Number 16, resolution authorizing advertisement for vehicle extrication tools and battery charger for the fire department.

Motion, please. Move. Motion by Councilman Johnson. Second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

H, ordinances for final adoption subject to public hearing. Number 17, to consider final adoption of an ordinance authorizing the mayor to accept the low bid submitted for City Hall handicap ramp structure renovations. Madam President, we're requesting that this item be delayed for two weeks.

So moved.

Second.

Moved by Councilman Fowler, seconded by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? All right. And opposed? Motion carried.

Number 18, to consider file adoption, but no one is authorizing the mayor to accept the proposal received from the Urban Design Ventures LLC for HUD Consulting Services. Madam President, we're requesting that this item be delayed for two weeks.

Motion.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? All right. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Number 19, to consider found option of an ordinance rezoning the rear portion of lots 12, 13, and 14 located at 1305, 1307, and 1311 Dawkins Street, Alexander, Louisiana, from a SF2 single family to a B3 general business.

Moved.

Second. Motion by Council Member Lloyd, second by Council Member Fowler.

There is a legal typo, a transcription in the address. Those addresses on Dawkins Street are 31 and not 13, so 3105, 3107, 3111. We'd request that a member move to amend the ordinance. Second. Second. So the three should be in front of one.

What did they change to? What was the address? I know it says... It's 31 at the beginning of the year. 31.

Yes, sir. There is no 1,300 block of Dawkins, but 3,100 block would be correct. Okay.

Thank you. And everything else was done by... 3,105, 3,107, 3,100.

Everything was advertised properly. That's correct.

My ladies were here earlier and they're in support of us.

Very happy to hear that. I'm sure the owner is as well.

Mm-hmm. Public comments? Discussion?

I have a point of discussion just to add to what Mr. Fowler said. Ms. Spence and a couple other neighbors were here and so of course they support this rezoning. And one comment that they did have was, of course, the fence. They like a wooden fence, you know, just to help with people getting through or seeing through. So I don't know what we have planned for that, but I did promise them that I would make that statement on the record.

Okay. Okay, so... We've got to vote as amended. Mm-hmm.

We've got to finish this one first.

Yeah, go ahead.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Now you need a motion and a second as amended. Second.

Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Beloyed.

Public comments?

Public comments. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Okay, number 20. To consider final adoption of an ordinance authorizing a marriage to accept a low bid... For gas, meters and nitro and earth, Madam President, the administration's president decided to be removed. Removed?

Yes. Second. Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Aye. Resolutions. Public hearing. Community development. To continue public hearing to consider condemnation on the following structure. 1807 Day Street A and B Devon Jones, TCB Fund, Matthews Ritchie, D. McManus, Properties LLC, Douglas McManus, Leroy DC.

Motion. So moved.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed. I'm sorry, Councilman Fowler. Second by Councilman Beloyed to open a public hearing.

Yes, for 1807 Day Street A and B, we're still asking for combination.

Jay resolution public hearing commenced development that's a close

Oh, okay. I'm moving too fast.

Motion.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Johnson, second by Councilman Beloyed.

Thank you. J, resolution, public hearing, community development number 22, to hold a public hearing to take an action on the cost of demolition of 25 structures.

Motion, please.

Move.

Second. Second by Councilman Powell, second by Councilman Beloyed, vote for public hearing. public comments, discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Chad Reed with Community Development. We need to add 1906-1908 Main Street. It was omitted from the agenda for authority to file a lien in the amount of $11,387.05.

What was the address, sir, please?

1906-1908 Main Street.

Motion by Councilwoman Felter.

Second.

Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favour? Any opposed? Motion carries.

121 16th Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $6,888.58. Anyone? Second. Anyone?

Motion by Councilman Powell, second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussions? All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried. Anyone hear from that address?

427 Bennett Street were asking for their authorization to file a lien in the amount of $27,385.80 for the cost of demolition.

Motion, please.

Move.

Second by Councilman Beloyed. Second by Councilman Fowler.

I'm taking Sam Giordano's place to that medical issue. So those people were properly served and notified.

Okay. Anyone from that address here? public comments, discussion, all in favor?

Yes. Please, just a moment. 27,385.80. Why was that one so high? $27,385.80 on Bennett Street.

Yes, sir. That one there, the amount of soft goods that was in that structure required an additional, I think, five dumpsters just to get the contents that was from inside the house out and then the square footage on the house. It was brick on slab to get that structure removed. But like I said, it took an additional five dumpsters just to get the amount of soft goods, sofas, beds, So the house had furniture in it that had to be removed.

Yes, sir, it was full from the pool all the way through the attic.

Yes, sir, it did cost a good bit for that one there, but it was full from even the attic. You couldn't even see inside the attic. It was so full. Thank you.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

1212 Broadway. We're asking for the authority to file a lien for the amount of $5,357.73 for the cost of demolition.

And the owners have been properly served and notified.

Moved.

Second.

Moved by Councilman. Final second by Councilman Beloyed. Anyone here from that address? Public comments? She's... Oh, Ms. McNeil? Yes.

How are y'all doing today? I acquired this property more than five years ago in a tax sale but it was my understanding that I do not own it. It's still in the original owner's name and I never did take the necessary process to own this particular property but everything still comes to my house. But when I acquired it in the tax sale, I did bring the taxes up to date and then hadn't done anything since then. But I don't own the property.

So my question... is who's liable for this $5,000? It would be the owner, right?

Yes, sir. The owner is. When we send out notifications, we send out to the current owner, any tax sale owner, or any possible previous owner. So if it would have been an additional tax sale owner, we also notify that person as well. Anyone that's had interest in the property at some point in time, we send notice to those people.

But Ms. McNeil's not on the hook for it? No, sir.

The lien goes on the property itself, not on the individual.

Okay. And Ms Peterson is deceased so it's just an estate.

It's on the property.

Yeah, and I was just told that I was supposed to acquire like an attorney and then you were supposed to like contact all of her family members, put it in a paper and do all that stuff. But I never did do that process.

Okay.

Your best check is to get absolutely qualified answers from everything you ask.

Well, just understand, whatever you do, or if you do decide to do that, this lien is going to be on the property. Okay.

So you've been paying taxes on the property, Ms. McMahon?

I did at one time, but I haven't. Yes, it's been well over five years.

And it's not even in your name?

No.

Okay. Well, you're not on the hook. Except you lost your tax money. That part. Okay.

Thank you.

I was trying to help the community.

I understand.

All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

23 Chester Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $12,402.33 for the cost of demolition.

Anyone here from that address?

Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed. Second by Councilman Beloyed. Second by Councilman Fowler. Comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Motion carried.

Anyone here put a problem? Yes.

36 Chester Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien for the cost of demolition and the amount of $13,249.44. Second. Is anyone here for their property?

Motion by Councilman Lauderdale, second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

124 Chester Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $12,168.44 for the cost of demolition.

Move.

Second.

Is anyone... Let me ask a question. Is anyone here from their property first? And then we can motion and second. Thank you. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So a motion by Councilman Ballou and a second by Councilman Labourdain. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

4014 Clark Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $8,805.32 for the cost of demolition.

The owners have been properly served and notified on that property.

Anyone hear from their property? Motion, please.

Second.

Second by Councilman Johnson. Second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried.

2321 Detroit Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $9,191.32 for the cost of demolition.

And again, the owners have been properly served and notified on that property.

Anyone hear from their property? Motion, please. Move. Motion by Councilman Powell, second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

205, 207 Douglas Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $13,576.58 for the cost of demolition. Anyone hear from that address?

Motion, please. Move.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed, second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments, discussion, all in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried.

1308 Elliott Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $10,432.84 for the cost of demolition.

Honors have been properly served and notified on that one.

Anyone hear from that address? Motion, please. Move. Motion by Council Member Lloyd, second by Council Member Feiler. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried.

3916 Jefferson Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $12,421.32 for the cost of demolition.

Honors have been properly served and notified.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please. Second.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion period.

3105 Laurel Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $7,761.32 for the cost of demolition.

Honours have been properly served.

Anyone hear from that address? Motion, please. Second.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Fowler, second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments, discussion? All in favour? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

716 Lincoln Drive. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $8,493.84 for the cost of demolition.

Owners have been properly served and notified.

Anyone from that address here? Motion, please.

Move.

Second.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Boyd. Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried.

67 Louisiana Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $12,798.75 for the cost of demolition.

Honors have been properly served.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please. Motion by Councilman Beloyed, second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments, discussion? All in favor? Any opposed? Motion carried.

8991 Louisiana Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $12,664.74 for the cost of demolition.

Owners have been properly served.

Anyone here for that address? Motion, please. Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second. Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

1517 Magnolia Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $9,832.32 for the cost of demolition.

Honours have been properly served and notified.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please.

Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed, second by Councilwoman Felton. Public comments? Discussion? All in favour? Any opposed? Motion carried.

1705 McHenry Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $8,965.32 for the cost of demolition.

Owners have been properly served and notified.

Anyone here from that address?

I just took over this with my mother, so I'm trying to figure out what to do to pay it off and pick up the property taxes.

Okay, so you've just taken over? Yes. Okay, so... You want to start paying the taxes on the property? Yes, ma'am. But it's already been demoed, right? Yes. So you want to... keep the property.

Yeah, I'm going to keep it, keep it off.

Sounds like you need to do a succession first to put the property in your name. Has that been done?

No. I talked to the family. I'm the power attorney for Janice Ellis and everybody was agreeing to sign everything so I can pick up everything so we can keep that property in the family.

Well, you need to talk to the attorney and get a succession. Once that succession is done, then the respective heirs and or legatees could do an act of donation to you guys where you could acquire it.

Okay.

But in the meantime, it appears you're going to be saddled with this debt because this is going to be an amount owed on the property. Okay. And the taxes are separate from this obligation. The house was raised. That's my appreciation. The house is gone, right?

Yes, sir.

There's a charge for that. This body here is going to deal with the charge associated with leveling the house. So just understand that once you do open the succession and put in all the legatees or heirs in possession, in essence, your mom's children or whoever she wanted to have the property, once those people are put in possession, they can do a donation to you. But then you're going to ultimately, well, how it works is, The heirs would be the ones who are responsible, but this lien is against the property. So you won't be personally responsible, but it will be against the property. But if you want it, you will ultimately have this tax bill. I have a couple of lawyers in here. That sounds about right.

The only thing I want to add is that if you want to get the full accounting of all the taxes, any liens, anything else, you can go to the city's business tax office. Okay. It's at the customer service building at 625 Murray Street. And if you have a pencil or a pen, write down the number for you if you want to stick around.

We just understand if you want it, you have to take all that's owed on it. We're not worried about that. We just want to keep the property.

We're not worried about...

I have to tell you the good, the bad, the ugly in this process. Yes, sir.

I understand. So get his information and start from there. Can you give us the number?

Sir, it's 318-449- and they can give you a document that shows everything that's owed. Okay. Just for your information.

Okay. Thank you.

This lien, though, will not show up if you call them tomorrow. Okay, that's true. That's correct. This lien will not show up if you call them tomorrow or the next day after we have to get the statement signed. Thank you, Chuck. Okay.

But I'm still good to call.

Oh, yes, ma'am. Yeah, you definitely can call. I just want to let you know that amount. It's not going down there.

Did you want to write down this amount? It's going to be a lick.

You got everything you need, ma'am? Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you. Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried. We didn't? No, we didn't. Okay.

1403 1407 Murray Street we're asking for the authority to file a lien for boarding up the property

Anyone hear from that address? A motion, please.

Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed, second by Councilman Fowler. Public comments, discussions? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

2717 Overton Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $9,499.79 for the cost of demolition. Honors have been properly served and notified.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please. Move. Second. Second. Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

1309 Sherland Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $11,079.32 for the cost of demolition.

Honors have been properly served and notified.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please. Move. Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second. Second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor?

Aye.

Anyone opposed?

Motion carried. 1424 Sherland Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $9,297.74 for the cost of demolition.

Honors have been properly served and notified.

Anyone hear from that address? Motion, please. Second.

Second.

Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second by Councilman Johnson. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

1702 Sherland Avenue. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $15,825.34.

Owners have been properly served and notified.

Anyone hear from that address? Motion, please.

Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed. Second. Second. Second by Councilwoman Felter. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed?

Motion carried. 1625 Vance Street. We're asking for authority to file a lien in the amount of $5,885.58 for the cost of demolition.

Anyone here from that address? A motion, please? Motion by Councilman Fowler. Second. Second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

2118 Webster Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien for the cost of demolition, $17,348.84. Owners have been properly served and notified. Anyone here from that address?

Motion, please. Motion by council.

Second. Councilman Fowler?

Second.

Second by Councilman Beloyed. Public comments? Discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

303 Willow Glen River Road. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $79,282 for securing and cleaning up of the property.

Owners of improperly.

Anyone here from that address? Motion, please. Move. Okay.

Good afternoon. Good afternoon. I've prepared a quick statement for the good evening members of the council. My name is Lou Zidan. I'm here today regarding the costs associated with the demolition of the structure of the 303 Willow Glen River Road. And I want to begin by saying that I was aware of the condemnation order. And I attempted to comply with it. I hired a contractor to make the necessary repairs, paid the contractor $10,250, and later discovered that he was not licensed to remove asbestos as he had represented. I took him to court. Mr. Sanders in Rapides Parish, DA's office, is a prosecutor in that case. Because of that situation, I was unable to complete the repairs. before the city proceeded with the demolition, and my understanding, DEQ was the one to get the grant to clean that property, or at least so I was told. I don't dispute the city had the right to act, but I do have a serious concern about the amount that was built. I was informed by the contractor that the city hired the day he was there with Mr. Keith Gremlin. He had told me that he had charged DEQ $40,000 for the demolition work. However, the city is billing me $79,282. That includes, I believe, $400 or $600 attorney fees, nearly double that amount. I respectfully just request a detailed line item breakdown of every cost included in that $79,000 figure so that I could understand what I'm being asked for to pay. I also need to be direct with this council. I do not have the financial resources to pay $80,000 on this building, simply because once it's paid, the city has asked me to take it down, which would cost, I believe by the city estimate from DEQ, the number that they had told me, $328,000.

How long have you had this building?

Well, the building stood there for 40 years before anybody received any papers. And as soon as I bought it, it seems like the city red flagged it and asked me to start cleaning the property up. As a matter of fact, I went and I approached Dollar General to come and put a building there with Radcliffe Construction, which they did. And at the time, the city had a lien on it for cutting the grass for $26,000, which I also paid. You guys just billed me $3,300 for this property for cutting grass, which I'm told not to touch because it's asbestos contaminated. So I can't seem to find the happy medium between getting it taken care of and keeping up the appearance of the property and the legality of the asbestos that was present on the property. But again, it seems like the city workers are, and again, I'm not disputing anything, but maybe they wear special suits when they cut grass. I don't know. But for whatever reason, there's a $3,300 bill, and I've kept with all of these bills throughout. The bottom line is, truthfully, is I could no longer afford this property with all the tax liens that are associated with it that the city wants me to continue paying. I am willing to work with the city. There is no need for additional legal costs on my end or yours for a customer that don't have the money to pay. I actually thought, I called, you're Mr. Chad Reed?

Yeah.

I talked to you on Thursday. You had me on speaker. I was talking. You couldn't hear me. I don't know what's going on. I've talked to community development multiple times about this. My name is all over this. I've probably talked to everybody that's involved. I'm willing to work with anybody that's willing to listen. I talked to Mr. David. He had approached me. about maybe it was a levy situation that needed to be done over there in that area, a project. He asked me to give him a piece of the land, which I told him I would donate the whole thing. I don't have any need for it. I believe it's a little over four acres there. I'm asking for help. You guys keep asking me for money, and the city don't have the money. At least that's what I was told. The city don't have the budget to tear it.

delay this for two weeks and let him come in and talk to you and see if he can get some kind of understanding.

Before you guys make a decision on that, I just want to correct the record unless, Chad, you want to add any facts. So the The charge is currently here, and I'm sorry I don't have the itemized or the invoice for the contractor. That is what a private contractor that is under contract with the city, with community development, billed the city to do the activity that was done for this. Specifically, that activity was to take all the debris that was around the site and to move it inside the structure and then have the structure secured off. There's a steel caging on it now, you've probably seen.

Which I, believe it or not, I talked to Mrs. Heather Waring, which she used to work with DEQ, and I have multiple communications with her through email, which we have suggested to do exactly that, and she had declined. She said that it needs to be hauled off-site, which it would have cost, like I said, over 300 and some thousand dollars, and we could have gotten that done way less than what the city would have gotten it done, but we were told that we couldn't touch it, and that wasn't even an option.

A few things. So the city used its contractor. We have four contractors. This is the one that does the asbestos work. And the LDEQ did give the city permission to do this work. There wasn't a grant. And whatever you think that Mr. Grimion had said, that's not accurate. This is to private contractors when they build the city.

It was the contractor that told me. It wasn't Mr. Grimion.

Mr. Grimion is a city employee. He's an inspector in the city.

Robert, I'm saying the contractor, the actual contractor is the person that gave me the $40,000 number, not Mr. Keith.

Well, we can provide you with the itemized invoice. I do also want to put on the record that the reason that there was all that debris that contained asbestos, my understanding is that there had been some demolition debris that was brought on site, and then that's when DEQ stepped in. and the owners were told to stop that activity, and that did create a bunch of asbestos around the site. The reason that we did this cleanup was in order to address the aspect that you're talking about, about there being asbestos-containing material on the lawn, on the grass, which was attracting other people, even dumping trash from there, And making it difficult to move the grass.

I have multiple problems with this. I have signed every, I'm sorry, I don't mean to keep cutting you off, but you guys are aware of the situation and I just don't know how to fix it. I understand. I'm trying to bring it all up to speed.

Go ahead. So after the situation of the asbestos in the property, DEQ filed a regulatory action against the owner. That is currently out there. Just so you know, there's an executory judgment that DEQ has against Mr. Mohammed Zidane. I don't know if that's yourself or a sibling. No, that's my sibling. So that hasn't been served, but that's out there. So the DEQ has that regulatory enforcement action they're still trying to pursue. What the city has done is made it to where now the grass can be cut, whether it's by a city crew or by yourself. There are signs out there saying no dumping the city put up. There are signs in the building saying the building contains asbestos, not to go inside. But the purpose of this exercise was to try to stop that dumping, make sure it can now be maintained, because there's no asbestos-containing material in the grass itself. But this is, you know, we can get you an invoice. This is what the contractor built the city. So can I ask you something?

Can we cut the grass now?

That is my understanding, yes.

Shouldn't we have been notified that we're able to cut the grass since they have done that?

We have, although we've been in contact with you, we struggled to get in contact with Mohammed Zidane, but...

Mohammed Zidane is out of the country. He's been out of the country since my brother's murder at that location 10 years ago. So I'm trying to, we're not trying to blow this off. We're here. I'm present. We're trying to work with the city. Although he is not here, I am here and I'm the one that handles the business. And I just, like I said, we're really all trying to go somewhere. We're not trying to blow this off or saying that whatever. But every time I called the city, the city would say, we don't have the budget for it to tear it down. Well, I promise you I'm not richer than the city of Alexandria.

So I have a question. So the asbestos material was not hauled off. It was put inside the building.

Correct.

That's correct.

Which was an option that was not given to us. We actually asked, and we were denied that in an email, like I said, that I could provide to you guys by Mrs. Heather Ware. From DEQ. From DEQ.

So there's... We were able to get permission to do just that. I didn't know if that's true that you'd asked and didn't get permission. We have now done that and... The purpose of that was to secure the property. We don't have the funding right now to completely tear it down or to haul that asbestos-containing material. We have this much in the budget. We're fortunate we were able to accomplish the job. It was appropriated, and we appreciate that.

The asbestos charge would have been much greater than $79,000.

Question. This goes on to the property, correct?

Yes, that's correct.

Sling does not affect him? It just goes on the property?

The property is owned by an LLC that, as I understand, is only a single asset LLC. Is that correct?

Correct. See? And I'm here still trying to work with you.

It's an LLC, but that LLC doesn't own a bunch of property. This is the only asset that that LLC has.

So let's do this right here. So first of all, you can go back and cut the grass. I'm sorry?

You can go back and cut the grass. I just received a bill from the city for $3,300 for cutting that grass. without being notified that I could cut it. We have kept up with it. We have paid it. I have guys that cut the lot in front of it. They could simply cut it. The day they show up, I just, like I said, I talked to Jeff from the city. He was aware and he had confirmed with me that I cannot cut that property till DEQ says otherwise. There's been zero communication between them and I. I just found out, honestly, when I received the bill from the city, I want to say maybe a week or two ago.

We can work with code enforcement.

The next thing he's going to need is an itemized invoice.

Provide an itemized invoice to him. Correct. The other thing that really is the cause of the problem, which is the property itself, it's not going to go away. We'll keep it clean and all of that. But if we could find a way to where I don't know. I mean, honestly, I don't know if the police jury has any use for it, the parish has any use for it. I mean, you're talking about four acres on 3rd Street right there. We're willing to get rid of it if that would satisfy the lien that's on it and everybody would be done. Otherwise, you guys will just keep paying attorneys, putting lien on the property. I'm not paying the taxes or the liens that are on the property because... Once paid, the city still condemned the property and wants me to continue to pay the other 400 grand to take it down. So if this was as easy as selling the $70,000 or $40,000 lien that's on it and this would go away, the property might be worth it. But if we're going to add another half a million dollars on top of it, it simply won't.

How much did you purchase the property for when you purchased it?

$25,000. I have paid that in the first... Grass-cut and built.

And what was your plan to do with that property?

We were going to tear it down and use the slab that's on there, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. I forgot how many square feet it is. And we were going to do storage buildings.

Well, I just know it's in my district, and we've been trying to get this building down for years.

Well, John Reese, I bet you he probably never showed up here with the same issues as I'm having right now, the guy that owned it before me. And he told me he owned it for 40 years before that. We had tried to bring life to that whole neighborhood, from the store to the restaurant to Dollar General. We keep up with all the properties that are there. I own multiple properties on that street. Like I said, I know Jeff from court enforcement. He's on my speed dial, so he calls me when he sees something that needs to be taken care of, and we usually attempt to make it right. Like I said, the gentleman stated, the LLC that owns it doesn't own anything else. Truthfully, legally, I don't have to do anything if I want to just let it go, but I'm here because I own multiple things here in the city, and I want to keep my relationship with the city and everybody in it good and do the right thing. And I'm here trying to do the right thing, but if everybody is going to take the position of this needs to be paid or whatever, well, I don't think you guys will be seeing me in future meetings.

Well, the city incurred this expense, and so we don't ever ask and never have asked for these to be waived because that would be an Article 7 violation. Right. Cool. we are willing to provide whatever documentation the council or mr zidane is looking for we're definitely willing to work with code enforcement and clear up about the maintenance of it that was the purpose of us doing this and so to the extent that we didn't let you know that it was okay to cut the grass I apologize for that. I mean, perhaps a city attorney could look at that. We have occasionally where there's work with people on the grass cutting liens, but we can't work with people on demolition liens. Right. So we can start that this week or next week, make sure we give you that information. But we cannot recommend negotiating from the department or from the city attorney's office negotiating the cleanup activity that took place. If you guys want more time for us to discuss it, I understand that.

I'm saying if you guys are willing, you might get some of it. Otherwise, 50% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

And that would have to be dealt with through a legal process. It's not in the planning.

Like I said, I tried to talk to Mr. Jadd, honestly, like I said, on Thursday. For whatever reason, we had communication problems. I've talked to multiple people about the city with multiple inspectors.

We're going to ask you guys to open up a dialogue between each other. We're going to delay it for two weeks. I'm sorry? You guys... Keep on talking to each other.

I honestly don't even know who the gentleman is.

He's going to make himself known to you.

Awesome. Okay.

All right.

Would that be all done?

Just to reiterate to the council that a two-week delay would only allow for the delivery of the documentation that the gentleman has requested. Right. It would not be a negotiation with regard to the costs that have been incurred to do what we've done on this particular property? Understood. Understood. Okay. So are you saying we need more than two weeks? I'm saying that the costs are the costs relative to the action that was taken with regard to this property.

Given that the breakdown is right. And you itemize, you go through and see if the figures adds up, okay? Correct. And I'll do that, but ultimately if we could get to the city, if somebody would start talking to us about maybe how we could take care of this, it would probably be... Less things on your agenda for next time. Would that be all?

Yes, that's it.

All right. Thank you all. Have a good day.

Thank you.

I need a motion and a second to close.

What are you doing on the property? We've got to make a motion and a second. No, no, no. We've got one more property, I thought.

I mean, what are we delaying? I mean, what's the purpose of delaying it? No, we're not delaying it. Right. It's there.

Don't even spin.

Okay, so we had public comments, discussion. Who was the motion?

Our motion.

Motion by Councilman Johnson, second by? Second. Councilman Filcher. We had the public comments, discussion. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

Motion is seconded and closed. One more. The two that... Excuse me. 1906 and 1908 Main Street. Main Street. Main Street, please.

Yes, sir.

1906, 1908 Main Street. Yes, sir.

1906, 1908 Main Street. We're asking for the authority to file a lien in the amount of $11,387.05. Do we have a motion to add it?

It was already added.

It was already added. I was already added. Now we need a motion and a second to... Move.

Motion by Councilman Beloyed, second by Councilman Fowler. Public comment, discussion? All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion carried.

That's all the addresses that I have. And just to clarify, on 303 Willie Glenn, it's a two-week continuance.

I need a moment. No, no, no. They didn't delay.

They didn't delay?

No.

We didn't delay, but we expect y'all to meet together and see what can work out for you.

Last night I got an email from a text from Coach Smith. He's in Iowa.

He's, today he's got inducted, he's getting inducted into the High School Hall of Fame.

Excuse me, Madam President, any item that's placed on the agenda after it has to be put on, placed on the agenda by unanimous consent. We need to make a motion and second to place it on the agenda by unanimous consent, take a vote, then we come back and go from there. So, he needs, I mean... Any item to be added to the, that's not on the agenda?

I make a motion to add this item. A motion by Councilwoman Felter, second by...

I second it. Yeah, me too. But is it just to talk about it or what? I'm doing my... Are you going... He just, for him to be able to... Oh, okay.

We got the motion to second the motion by Councilwoman Felter. Second by Councilman Lombardino.

And we need a roll call vote.

Ms. Felter?

Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Fowler? Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Lara Gang? Yes. Ms. Pair? Yes. Mr. Johnson?

Yes.

Okay, Madam President, that is one absent and six yeses.

So last night I got a text from Coach Smith. He's in Iowa. Today he got inducted into the High School Hall of Fame. This is his fifth Hall of Fame inductee. So when you see Coach Smith, I mean, you know, the guy is amazing. So...

Where's your coach? Coach at Peabody. He's from Taylor Hill, Louisiana.

I just want to put that out there.

He's my cousin.

I just want to put that out there because that guy just keep on rolling.

All right.

Thank you.

Do we need to do anything else?

Meeting adjourned.

Okay.