Historical Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

Thursday, March 5, 2026
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About this meeting

Government Body
Historical Advisory Board
Meeting Type
Historical Advisory Board
Location
Alameda, CA
Meeting Date
March 5, 2026

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337 sections (from 376 segments)

10:420

Good evening. For the Historical Advisory Board meeting, Thursday, March 5, Board Member Bevan?

10:491

Present.

10:500

Board Member Brito?

10:512

Present.

10:510

Board Member Kratty?

10:533

Present.

10:540

And Chair Hernandez? Present. We have a quorum.

10:59 – 11:214

Beautiful. Let's start with non agenda public comments. Anyone can speak for up to three minutes regarding anything that is not on the agenda. Any here in the audience or online with raised hands? Yes. We've got one hand raised online. Todd Hickman should be able to speak.

11:26 – 11:445

Yes. Thank you. You. I'd like to commend the board for coming together this evening and actually attempting to focus on certificate of approvals and trying to comply with CEQA and general federal, state, and local regulations. I think you're a far departure.

11:44 – 12:355

I mean, in general away, not talking about tonight's project in no way, shape, or form. Speaking in general terms to the board's performance, which has been nonexistent up to this point on all related manners to certificate of approvals. I think there's some written public comment that breaks out all the laws and regulations for anybody that's interested to read and see how far from compliance the board actually is. But, again, I would like to commend the board on making an attempt this evening to begin the process process of compliance even though you're a long way from compliance in general on all things related to CEQUA and certificate of approvals. Let's call it that for now.

12:355

Thank you.

12:37 – 13:024

Okay. Thank you. Any other non agenda item comments? No other speakers. Okay. Swell. Let's go to item three minutes. So we're looking at the minutes from our last meeting. Any comments or addition to those minutes? Any motions about those minutes?

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I motion that the minutes from our previous month's meeting be entered into the record and approved. Second. Second.

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All in favor. Aye. The ayes have it.

13:24 – 13:464

Okay, great. So now that we've dispensed with that, let's get into our regular agenda. First up is item 4A. This is a certificate of approval for the Radium Theater Performing Arts Center. There'll be, I believe a number of attachments that we'll be discussing, but there is first a presentation.

13:504

Take it away, Brian.

14:18 – 14:446

All right. I think we got the right one. Good evening, Chair Hernandez and members of the Historical Advisory Board, Brian Maguire, Planner two, here to present the Radium Theatre Performing Arts Center project, requesting a certificate of approval. And I'll be giving the staff presentation. The applicant also has a presentation, that they would love to give after mine, before or after any questions.

14:48 – 15:046

Tonight's staff's recommending that you hold a public hearing, and adopt the draft resolution, making certain findings, issuing a certificate of approval, finding the project consistent with a number of, guidelines, which will go into more detail, the Secretary of Interior Standards, as

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well as finding the project compliant with CEQA, California Environmental Quality Act.

15:12 – 16:116

Project is several years in the making now. Just a little refresher, you first saw this project in a workshop, at least maybe no. I think I'm the last I man who said think our chair saw the project and valiantly served on the joint subcommittee in the 2024 when we sort of were talking some of the big picture site citing and some of the considerations that the project was going through in that earlier phase. Spent most of last year refining some of the little details as well as negotiating the ground lease and purchase option, which is sort of the land deal side, not really the purview of us tonight, but running in parallel with this entitlement process. So brings us to tonight where we're asking the HAB to approve the project by issuing a certificate of approval before it goes on to the planning board for a development plan consideration, as well as next month to the city council to approve the ground lease and purchase option.

16:15 – 16:586

Little land use context here. The project site is basically the heart of what in numerous documents is referred to as the Waterfront Town Center. Of the things that the Waterfront Town Center is intended for is terms like mixed use, transit oriented development, vibrant waterfront experiences, entertainment, etcetera, as well as being a catalyst for a future transformation of the rest of Alameda Point. It is the site is zoned is designated mixed use in the general plan. It's zoned Alameda Point Waterfront Town Center, the zoning district.

16:58 – 17:386

It's within the Alameda Point Town Center and Waterfront Precise Plan as we narrow in. And then it's also within the Site A development plan, which consists of most of the new development along West Atlantic that you've seen in the last number of years. Drilling into the town center plan a little bit. The town center plan, you can see here in purple and the site looped in red here, anticipated a lot of development along the seaplane lagoon taxiway. I mean, this was adopted twelve years ago.

17:41 – 18:376

And it's worth noting here, also, in red, I've noted the sort of street alignment in the Town Center Plan has evolved by the time the Site A development plan moved forward on the right, sort of eliminating that diagonal piece of the roadway and bringing Pan Am and West Atlantic all the way down to sort of the entrance to that Seaplane Lagoon Promenade Park there. So it kind of changed the configuration in this area a little bit, sort of eliminating that entry plaza, which gets discussed quite a bit in the town center plan, but didn't really survive into the Site A development plan. The project, however, as you'll see, does sort of reestablish that entry plaza, albeit within the framework of the the new roadway network. Just to make sure.

18:41 – 19:386

The project's also located within the NAS Alameda Historic District, which we'll talk a lot about. The historic district is on the National Register since 2013. It was eligible under sort of the fact that it was its role during World War II and that effort during that period, as well as the architecture criterion for sort of this interwar, what they called total based design with the streamlined modern architecture and the sort of hierarchy and orthogonal layout and other features we may talk about further. Some of the character defining features in the vicinity of the project. We're going to talk a lot about views, all kinds of views, some sort of axial linear views, north, south, east, west, but also some panoramic views.

19:39 – 20:336

Building 77, which is the Naval Air Museum, you know, it talks about the nomination and the studies talk about its deep setback with the low ground cover, landscape ground cover. Obviously, the orthogonal layout, this sort of rigid right angle roadway network and the way the buildings are arranged. And then, of course, the wide open paved spaces of the taxiways and the airfields and in between the hangars. In preparation for the nomination, the Navy commissioned the cultural landscape report, which is sort of the last missing piece before it was listed. That sort of talked about the historic design landscape, whereas there was numerous studies prior that talked a lot about the buildings and the history of the site, but didn't really study the landscape.

20:33 – 21:216

And within that, which will become relevant, is the infill design guidelines guidelines for new construction within that historic landscape, which is going to be relevant to your findings tonight. This diagram from the town center plan shows a number of those views. The character defining views are in the heavy purple lines here. It includes those East West views along West Tower and along south of the hangars, along the northern edge of the Seaplane Lagoon. Not shown here among the character defining views are the panoramic views, sort of hard to diagram.

21:23 – 22:156

So the most relevant one here is the sort of panoramic views from the South side of that row of seaplane hangars looking southward towards the Seaplane Lagoon and across. That's not from any one spot or to any one spot, but it's just the general panoramic views in that area. The precise plan also calls out a number of other views to consider when planning new development at the base in this area, including along the face of the hangars. You see these lighter blue lines going on either side of each of those hangars. And the precise plan anticipated new infill development between those hangars sort of along the center, the midpoint between each of the hangars.

22:16 – 22:526

And that preserved some of the views from West Tower down towards Seaplane Lagoon. That was the vision. And also, it speaks to preserving the views of the hangars themselves in those majestic hangar doors, which are so imposing and impressive out there. The image on the left here is from a package that will be part of the city council's approval for the purchase option. It shows a few things that I think are relevant.

22:53 – 23:406

It shows the proposed new parking area, interim parking area west of the building on the taxiway that would serve the site and surrounding area. And it shows a new north south roadway sort of down the middle between the hangars, which was not originally included in the precise plan, which we sort of will aid in circulation for this project. But also, we've come to the consensus as a staff that we really wanted to break down the sort of mega block scale of Alameda Point to a little bit more human level. So that's one of the reasons we're anticipating adding this road, which was not in the 2014 master infrastructure plan, which planned all the infrastructure for the entire base. But that was sort of a framework.

23:40 – 24:226

And then this would be added onto that. It also shows that when Building 40, the former Palladium Building, was sold, that it placed the property line essentially right down the middle of where the precise plan we go back to this image imagine new buildings, right? And in practice, I think we're anticipating putting a new roadway there. And we would essentially be establishing a new view corridor down the middle here. And given what we've experienced between storage yards, parking, pickleball, etcetera, those users out there, we think those sort of views of the hangar doors and the buildings themselves are pretty safe.

24:24 – 25:366

If there is any infill development, it'd likely be small in scale and along that new roadway that we are proposing. The Town Center Plan also specifically called out the view centered on Building 70 7 here on the right, the Navy Museum, which served as a radio and radar repair facility during the war. Some years later, morphed into what became a passenger terminal starting in the '60s for flights that were sort of serving the base. Just zooming in a little bit, this perspective that was prepared shows that view from Building 77, respecting that minimum 40 foot view corridor centered on the museum building. So the primary tool at the HAPS disposal when considering whether to issue a certificate of approval for alteration of the historic monument is whether the project meets the Secretary of Interior standards for rehabilitation.

25:39 – 26:296

At staff's direction, the HAB had Architectural Resource Group present here tonight, if you have questions, to perform a standards analysis to see if the project is consistent with the Secretary of Materials Standards. In those 10 standards, since standard nine is really the only one that deals specifically with new construction, the analysis spends most of its energy there. Standard nine essentially says two things when it relates to new construction. It says, one, it won't destroy the character defining features, in this case of the historic district. And two, simultaneously, it would differentiate itself from the old while being compatible with the historic district at the same time.

26:29 – 27:026

So that's kind of the needle it has to thread. The rest of the standards touch upon bits here and there, but include a lot of repetitive analysis. So the staff report and the presentation focus on that. In terms of consistency with the standards, both staff and ARG find that the project is consistent. Relating to the historic materials, which mostly consists of the concrete paving at the site now, it's a big base, over 400 acres.

27:02 – 27:296

And the disturbance and the removal of the amount of material here is relatively small compared to overall scale. So the analysis shows that it does not destroy the historic materials. They are still prevalent throughout the base. Regarding historic features, this is all new construction. So features like the hangars, Building 77, the Seaplane Lagoon, these key elements of the historic district are preserved.

27:30 – 27:566

Big one here is relating to relationships. Project does have a limited effect on those spatial relationships but does not destroy it. So in detail here, the project is built within the strong orthogonal and reinforces that orthogonal layout. It preserves those East West views. And the panoramic views south from the seaplane hangars, while partially affected, the majority of that view is not affected, right?

27:56 – 28:246

This building is proposed to be on sort of the east end of the taxiway, partially tucked behind Building 77. And it's not any one single view. So the majority of that view is preserved. So we found that the project is consistent on that standard. Lastly, again, the project design achieves the goal of differentiating while being compatible with the historic district.

28:31 – 29:266

The draft resolution also asked HAV to find the project compliant with the California Environmental Quality Act. The Alameda Point EIR evaluated the impacts of redevelopment at Alameda Point, including demolition of historic structures and character defining elements, right? The EIR sort of acknowledged that that very well could happen. And it adopted mitigation measures to alleviate those impacts whenever possible, including requiring projects to go through the certificate of approval process tonight, as well as that new buildings are reviewed for conformance against adopted infill guidelines, including those in the cultural landscape report and the town center, the precise plan. It should be noted that the EIR found that some impacts with the redevelopment of the Point could be significant and unavoidable.

29:27 – 30:256

And the city council at that time said, when adopted the EIR and the mitigation program, that those impacts that remain after attempting to mitigate are acceptable because there are overriding considerations, whether economic development or what have you, in replacing those jobs lost, etcetera, from when the Navy left that might have an impact on the sort of character defining features. We're not saying that that's happening tonight in terms of reaching that level of significance. But it is something that was studied and acknowledged could and would likely happen as the base redevelops. I'll try to wrap up here. The project so basically, conclusion the project is consistent with the adopted guidelines, including those in the guide to preserving the character of the historic district as amended, which is important because that guide mostly focused on buildings, etcetera.

30:25 – 30:576

And as amended refers to those design guidelines in the cultural landscape report, basically were adopted as an amendment to the quote guide. So that's where that connection comes in. Also consistent with the town center and precise plan infill guidelines, we talked about the Secretary of Interior Standards and is compliant with CEQA. So next steps will be going to the planning board, then city council. And then at some point, when the project is closer to construction, they'll come back for the official design review and tentative parcel map, etcetera.

30:58 – 31:216

Just to reiterate the recommendation, we're asking the board to hold a public hearing, adopt the resolution, issuing the certificate of approval, finding it consistent with the standards and the guidelines, and make the necessary CEQA findings. I'm available to answer any questions if you like. Otherwise, we could also have the applicant give their presentation first, if you prefer.

31:23 – 31:454

Yes, I'd keep going with the presentation. I'm first. Thank you, Brian. We'll roll all the questions back to you after you. So yes, if the second presentation wants to step forward, we'd be happy to hear from you all as well.

31:49 – 32:207

I'll be brief. My name is Christopher Seiwald. I'm the founding member of Radium Presents, which is trying to bring this performing arts center to Alameda Point. Thank you for your time tonight. We're happy to share with you again our plans. We've done a lot, we think, to try to accommodate all the concerns that people have had about the project out there. But I'm going to let the people who've done all the work actually talk about it. So thank you again. And I think is it Michael that's up next? Yeah. He's Zooming in from Portland, I think.

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Okay. Swell. Thank you so much.

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Alright. Ready for you, Michael.

32:30 – 33:068

Alright. Members of, the historic advisory board, thanks for listening to our presentation this evening considering this project. We spent considerable time working with staff and sharing the evolution of the design with the board previously. I'm just gonna give you a brief overview of the project, some of the things that we've presented in the past, considerations that we've made in relationship to feedback that we've received both from the historic advisory board as well as the planning board. Next slide.

33:07 – 34:158

So this is the original site plan that we presented in May 2024. It sounds like there was only one member of the present board who was there for this presentation. But at that time, the the project envisioned the placement of the performing arts center to align with the the western side of the performing arts center to align with the western side of the hangar directly north of Building 77 or the Naval Air Museum. And that was because there was at that time envisioned a view corridor aligned with the backside of that building. We got feedback from the historic board at that time that the prioritization of the view corridor to Building 77 was much more important than the other view corridor and that, really, they wanted us to go back and study relocating the building to preserve that view corridor to the sort of center arrival point on Building 77.

34:15 – 35:188

Next slide. So we took the feedback that we got from the historic advisory board on that June 6 meeting. We made some adjustments, which also considered input that we got from the planning board just a few days later. And this was both about how the building impacted this relationship to the Naval Air Museum, what the character of the building was on all four sides, both, you know, to the arrival point, but also to the seaplane lagoon and to the rest of the runway to the west, as well as concerns about how traffic and pedestrian and vehicular arrival and service was gonna be accommodated. So we came back to the board in November 2024 with a relocated footprint for the building and got some enthusiasm from the board for how we had addressed their primary concerns.

35:19 – 36:028

There was some desire to see some modifications to the landscape and better integration of historical references and artifacts. But in general, the historic advisory board at that time was relatively favorable to how the project had evolved. Next slide. Some of the things for those of you who have not seen this project previously, this is a performing arts center, that has a lot of complex aspects that making it function appropriately. The footprint for the theater is at the center of the building and is a fairly large and defined footprint with very strict relationships between the stage or performance area and the audience.

36:03 – 37:188

We've got some surrounding uses around the side of the sides of that theater that provide support spaces for performers and for the storage of equipment and other things that serve the the performance area. And then on the east, we have the lobby and arrival point to the building. And one of the things that we've come to learn about this site is that there are very strong winds that come down across the runway, that get funneled from the opening to the Golden Gate, and those provide a lot of, kinda heavy breezes and, cool winds many times of the year. So the building footprint serves to kinda shelter the public space that we're proposing to develop on the eastern end of the site. So there's an arrival plaza that will be the climate kinda experience of that plaza will help to be mitigated by the presence of the building and create a really nice sheltered outdoor public space that's gonna be open for a variety of uses and events, including outdoor performances, used on a daily basis, gatherings, and informal art performances, etcetera.

37:19 – 38:268

We're also very concerned about the relationship of the building to the seaplane lagoon and the waterfront park that the city of Alameda has begun to develop along the length of the seaplane lagoon and the relationship. We want this to be an amenity that connects to that waterfront park as well. Next slide. So subsequent to, our original proposal in the last eighteen months or so, we have been spending quite a bit of time working with the city of Alameda staff on a whole variety of considerations related to arrival, the development of the roadway between the Naval Air Museum and the new performing arts center, how service vehicles are gonna arrive on the site, how parking is gonna be accommodated, how storm water is gonna be accommodated, what impacts this is gonna have on the development of the water front park that exists there today and, have really been working to refine a lot of, details. So the current project boundary that you see here is dashed in red.

38:26 – 39:318

That is the area that's gonna be impacted by the project and the project development. The black dotted line or the property line is the area that we are actually looking to purchase from the city or I should say, get a long term ground lease from the city to accommodate the development. Next slide. So this current site plan attempts to show both the view corridors to the west of the building site, which is the sort of peach color that sits a little bit, in the middle point between the two hangar buildings and the view corridor, that centers on the Naval Air Museum that is just to the, east of the building footprint, the development of the landscape and the accommodation for service vehicles and parking and the elements that are gonna serve the new theater building. Next slide.

39:33 – 40:548

This shows you some images of the early design thinking about the building. The thought has been to draw inspiration from the character both of the Naval Air Museum and the rest of the buildings on the base. So sort of streamline art modern kind of references in the soft curves, but also references to the large scale and massing of the hangar buildings that are really prominent in this section of the base. A big symmetrical opening facing the plaza where you arrive with a large canopy over it that recalls the character of the hangar doors that open onto many of the hangar buildings directly adjacent, and an exterior material that is anticipated to be some sort of a fluted con solid sort of concrete material that differentiates itself from the character of the other buildings on the base, but also is referential to those and recalls the idea of maybe a draped curtain or something like that, that makes reference to the activity that's taking place inside the building. You can go to the next image.

40:55 – 41:408

Next slide. This shows of you looking, from Waterfront Park toward the Naval Air Museum where you can see the development of the facade that faces to the Waterfront Park. It's got a number of large openings that allow activity that's taking place inside the building to be visible from waterfront park as well as views inside the building back to the seaplane lagoon and waterfront park. So the building should be an animated and engaging presence for anyone who comes to approach it. You can begin to see the sort of reference along the main facade that faces the arrival to the building that recalls some of the character of this hangar buildings on the site.

41:40 – 42:208

And, in general, you get a sense of how this building is drawing inspiration from the character of, many of the buildings on the naval air base. Next slide. This slide is basically to illustrate kind of the scale of the building and what's driving the roof heights in various locations of the building. So, we've got the center portion of the building, which houses the main audience chamber, has a roof height of about 50 feet. Adjacent to it on both the north and the south sides are flanking support areas.

42:21 – 42:558

This also relates to the the lobby side that are scaled down. They are closer to 43 feet in height. The tallest part of the building is the fly tower, which accommodates all the movable scenery and lighting elements that are necessary for a fully functioning theater. That rises to a height of 70 feet, but it is surrounded on all sides by areas that are lower in height ranging from, 35 to 43 feet. Next slide.

42:57 – 44:008

So, in November 2024, this was our proposed site plan and project boundary. The dash red shows that we were extending work all the way to the front door of the naval air base. It shows a very fixed sort of straight line road running between the Performing Arts Center and the Naval Air Museum, and it shows a landscape that is actually coming quite close to the front of the Naval Air Museum and beginning to maybe encroach or be present in the view corridor. One of the feedback that we got from the that meeting was to honor and open up that view corridor more intentionally, and and there was a lot of interest in making sure that the Naval Air Museum felt like it was also a fronting presence on the shared plaza. So the plaza doesn't just serve the new performing arts center, but it also serves the Naval Air Museum.

44:00 – 44:388

These two prominent buildings share a presence on this public outdoor space. Next slide. So the revised project boundary and site plan show the addition of this space on the west side of the building that's there for accommodating service and delivery vehicles, accommodating storm water retention and treatment spaces. It shows the landscape development on the east side of the building. Those planters and planted areas have been pulled away from the face of the building to open up the view corridor.

44:38 – 45:408

It also shows some additional development on the north side of the roadway between the Naval Air Museum and the new Theater Building. And that is intended to make it for especially vehicles entering this site for them to feel like they are entering into the midst of a public space and not along the edge of a public space to bring the Naval Air Museum more into conversation with the building and to help slow down traffic and create the sense that you are entering into a pedestrian zone that's shared between all of these buildings. And at this point, I am gonna turn the rest of this presentation over to our landscape architect from the firm Surface Design. Tim Kirby, will, continue this presentation, and then we're available to answer any questions you have after we finish. Thank you very much.

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Super. Thank you.

45:42 – 46:109

Good evening. I am going to, continue the spirit of the before and after series of slides. So, Brian, we can go to the next one. And we'll continue to help represent and talk through this story from what it was in 2024 to, where we've arrived today. On this one, it's it's worth noting that the bones of the site design remain similar to what 2024 was and where we're gonna go in 2026.

46:10 – 46:489

It's really about the spirit of place, this dialogue of history and purpose. So we emphasize runways. Right? The runway, in a sense, is that connection from their museum to the water. This relationship of land and water and dialogue kinda start to see the spirit of that even through some pattern making on the ground plane. We're also thinking of performance. Right? So so a kind of signature runway is part of this promenade and procession that you come from Atlantic. You start to look at the address of the performing arts theater. We think that's kind of a grand point to recognize as a a celebration of runway and performance.

46:49 – 47:179

And then a diversity of spaces. We wanna see that in some bigger bigger lawn areas, maybe generous terrace seating, but also intimate spaces for gathering and private breakout areas. Next slide. And so you could start to see some of that shaping that Michael was touching on here with the road geometry shifting. It still accommodates the service needs, from prior access, the dimensions of that.

47:18 – 47:549

But it, starts to reprioritize and shift what drop off was on both sides previously, and now it says, hey. Let's really address the performing arts theater. That's where it's needed and allow the the views to be less obstructed from the vehicles on the, air museum side. It kinda celebrates that connection from Tower to kind of a long Pan Am activities at Tower that are taking place, this celebration almost as a as a boulevard between community and activity spanning through and allowing people to feel that they're they're welcomed into this site. Anybody's can come here.

47:54 – 48:319

Anybody can use this open space and feel that they're welcome and and see performances happening out there. In the center, you'll see some adjustments to actually just shaping the performance spaces a little bit more. So we've added dedicated zones that are blocked out, kind of one in yellow there in the middle or in in gray as well. And then through conversations with, planning, shaping some of the the landforms that address the Waterfront Park, we added a more dedicated performance area allocation there and shifted around some of the stormwater management zones as well. Next slide, please.

48:33 – 49:119

So, of course, I I was mentioning, the history of that, and I think that's we intend that to be very truthful and really embrace the authenticity of place. I think it's a priority for this project and ourselves and on any of the work we do. And so recognizing the movement patterns and the relationships of form and and purpose, through all of this, hopefully, you can start to see that in the shapes, that we've developed and then integration of elements throughout the site, go through a series of perspectives, and, show you what we've proposed and how they've evolved over the past year and a half. Next slide, please. So this is before.

49:11 – 49:569

This is 2024, what we have. It shows that integration, you're starting to see some hints of artifacts represented. So in the kind of foreground, we're seeing a large propeller wing. In the distance, in some of the areas, we're seeing hints of lights that kind of recall the runway lights that could have been there. But even also the terracing, that's that's intentional about just just multiple purposes historical about how to acknowledge form and airplane wings, if you will, and aviation, but also, like, site purpose. Right? It's windy out there. We wanna recognize climate. Comfort is important to really celebrate and make sure people enjoy this place. So that starts to buffer and calm the winds in, when they're coming in from the shore.

49:57 – 50:189

Let's go to the next one. We can see the difference here. It really starts to open up. Visibility into that road on that kind of lower portion of the page is primarily where the shift is happening in this view, and then that connection plaza across the the, that road there, the cross through road. Next slide, please.

50:20 – 51:049

So this is the view off from West Atlantic. No changes here, but I think it's good to pause on to say that no obstructions happen from the current, existing waterfront park kind of throughway that that people bike and run along. And then we can also kind of turn our our lens to the arrival and look at the architecture there in the front door, and that's where you can start to see that kind of nod to the history of lighting and illumination that happens on runways and then the different landscape, forms that help to right, a softness to the to the plaza, but also that, environmental comfort protection. Next slide, please. So a little bit on character.

51:05 – 51:419

We think it's a place that has multiple scales I mentioned. So a performance experience kind of foremost, if you will, but it does have a sense of diversity in terms of the paving treatment. We'll have character and be interesting. We wanna have different colors and tones, a quality to the planting that's thoughtful, that's responsible in terms of climate, and its place in terms of water use. And then, kind of more on the left side, the artifact integration, recalling, where we are in our place, and then these, private nodes for seeding and gathering and educating even.

51:43 – 52:239

Next slide, please. So walk through a series of, points that we've shown this to you before, but I think it's good to go through it, and I'll even kinda highlight some of the changes to the site through it. So on the top left, the historical historical artifact, I think this is a conversation. These are shown here as prompts and opportunities, points of interest that we think we can develop and continue a dialogue through the process of the design project. But, you know, oversized anchors, we've done that in, some of our work in Mission Bay, kind of looked at what was found, what are the artifacts that are available to us, and how can we integrate them into the site, I think, would be fantastic.

52:24 – 52:479

We're seeing that again also with the large propeller there on the opposite side. Directional lighting is something we think can be integrated into the design. So it could be at the ground plane as well as potentially kind of a light, light fixture above. I think that would really provide a unique, sense of place to this character. We think that there's an opportunity for even informational signage.

52:47 – 53:199

Some we call it way finding panels. Some times it's referred to as didactic, educational information. But I think it's a a real great opportunity to help broaden the story and the conversations that are happening at the Air Museum and bring them out to the forefront. Y'all are already doing it at the at the ferry terminals, and and I think that can continue to expand here and help inform what has taken place on the site in the past. And then, recognition of, monument to say where we are in place.

53:19 – 53:539

And then this notion of even reusing the concrete, we'd love to see if there's a way to integrate that in potentially as some of the terraces and find a way to kinda keep that legacy of the site, still integrated and represented through it. And if if possible, we could even do a topographic model that helps, demonstrate some of the relationships of the marina and adjacent landscape. Next slide. So Brian went through some of this, and I think it can help, kinda sequence through these. We're gonna show you three views.

53:53 – 54:189

The first view is going to be from if you're on the lower level or kind of the primary door of the Naval Air Museum in the view corridor. The second view will be as if we're on the upper balcony of that view corridor or of of the building looking through the view corridor. And then the third one will be turning our head our direction back towards the air museum and see that vantage point. Let's go ahead there, Brian. Next slide.

54:18 – 54:449

So this is that first view where as if you're standing at the door and you start to look out in the distance and see the the sculpture and the water beyond. I'll point out where there's a couple there in in terms of they're wearing red and yellow, and there's an anchor on the left. That's the piece that we've pulled back and opened up. So it's it's quite a bit more grand before it was enclosed. The the terracing came up to where those people are, and that has been pulled back.

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And now you can see much further into the distance here. Next slide, please. We start to step up as if we're on the high point of that upper balcony really seeing the span of the water and the horizon in the distance, and we're seeing the some of the landscape terracing, those tilted plains, and then the water beyond. Next slide. We've turned back, to show you this portion of the view corridor and how you can see the, recognition of the air museum in the distance and then some of the dialogue through the landscape features and terracing that happens.

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It kinda provides a place for congregation and spill out from the theater and activation that can happen. Next slide. I wanna touch on the the through road that connects through, between Pan Am and the connector to West Tower. What we're showing here is, they're 26 foot wide roadway, 13 foot lanes, two drop offs on each side, and a series of street trees. It did have a section that was kind of seeing at the top how we did, have a 4% slope that was going towards the air museum there.

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And, on the next slide, we will look at the change to that. So we we've changed the the toning on that getting from tan to gray. It's helpful just to understand that both of them had curbing systems. This this one is just helping you read the demarcation of that road lane more clearly. We think of this almost like a chicane.

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It starts to slow traffic as the there's a slight bend in the road, geometry that I mentioned earlier. 13 foot lanes equal 26, and that still accommodates the fire truck access. But it does squeeze to 24 as we go back towards Pan Am there, at two twelve foot lanes and then prioritizing that drop off on that, on the side of the theater and opening up that connection to the museum. I touched on the the connector plaza here that you can see. That's a place where we think there can be recognition of arts, culture, history, kind of a four point and a kind of acknowledgment to that as you're walking along or driving into this, new zone.

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Next slide. So we're shifting to the southern portion of the project, the interface at the Waterfront Park. Just showing you two views. I I wanted you to see how this relationship works as we slowly we kinda gently tilt up this lawn and look back towards the water and how it can be used for picnicking, light performances, and then how these terracing works kinda on the right image. That terracing works and still allows your view to be open, to see the water, see through the corridor, and how we could have some integration of artifacts and elements into the sand site landscaping.

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A couple minor updates to the plan that you guys may or may not pick up on, but it's that we have existing bike racks on both sides that were there addressing the waterfront park. There is a connection there to a potential cafe. So we have some cafe, outdoor seating under an an orchard there, and then we acknowledge that performance error request from parks and rec has come in there. Next slide. So I'll stop there and leave it as the conclusion of this presentation. We're happy to participate in questions.

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Super. Thank you so much. Is that the end of presentation? Okay. Great. Do you guys have do you want to entertain questions right now either for Brian or for the second part of the presentation? Yes, we could just go straight to public comment, get

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that out of the way.

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What do you think, Brian? Maybe we could look online. Are there public comments waiting online or perhaps even in

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person, and we do have a couple of hand at least one hand raised online at the moment.

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Okay. Maybe we start with the online, if there's only one. And then

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Todd Hickman?

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Yes. Pleasure to be here tonight. Nice presentation by the promoter of this complex. I just don't understand why everybody doesn't follow CEQA and actually go through the process as required. This appears to be another attempt at circumventing CEQA and the law, and it's only gonna come back to bite everybody involved.

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Ms. Sheehan submitted a public comment written. I believe this is a comprehensive review of all the laws involved and how the process is supposed to work. I believe everybody should take a peek at that. And, again, just follow the sequel law.

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I'm all for this project. It appears to be a great project. However, it does not appear to comply with CEQA at this time and would need to go through the process. Again, this is going to significantly alter the historic district. So some consolidation and some basically, some effort would need to be made to make this comply with the law.

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So, again, if you looked at the written comments submitted, it will give you a thorough breakdown of the law and how it's supposed to work, and that would help everybody, again, just follow the law. I would be really concerned if I was the planning board and I was listening to mister McGuire. I think he used the word sort of 39 times in his presentation recently. So, again, sorta follows the law, sorta complies, sorta matches the EIOR, sorta is a view corridor. I mean, sorta, sorta, sorta.

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So it almost was a comedy presentation. Perhaps mister McGuire should stop comedy and maybe focus on something more lucrative for somebody in his position, maybe whistleblowing, something like that. I don't know, though. It just appears to me that he should stop the comedy routine and maybe nail down his facts and stop misleading you, particularly using the word sort of. I mean, if I were you as a board member making a vote on the word sorta, I would be very, very concerned about my reputation, my liability, everything involved.

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And, again, this is a great project. Let's get it done. But let's just go through the sequel process and do this right once and for all. I know Alameda is adverse to doing things correctly, but why don't we start with this project since so much is on the line? Thank you.

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Thank you. Any other online speakers?

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The only other hand raised is also here in person. So unless they wanna do it via the computer outside. So

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having no other online comments, we'll switch to in person. How many do we have in person?

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I've got four speaker slips.

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Four speakers. Okay. Great. So let's go ahead and take them alphabetically, guess, or?

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I 've got them in the order they were submitted or I've if that got Tara Pilbara.

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Good evening, committee. I am Tara Pilbrough. I am the Executive Director of West End Arts District. I'm also on the board of Radium, and I am, as of the last twenty years, a working artist. When I moved to Alameda nine years ago as a dancer and a choreographer, I looked around and realized that if I wanted to continue my work performing and creating in theaters, I wasn't going to be doing it in Alameda.

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Determined as I was to stay on the island, I've spent much of the last nine years making quirky and interesting site specific work and cultural festivals across the island. And proud as I am of all of that work, it'd be really nice to have a roof and some lights. That sounds flippant, but in all honesty, I strongly believe that this project has the power to transform the arts ecosystem of Alameda and also that of the East Bay. Critics have said that radium could block our access to our stunning waterfront, to our beautiful San Francisco skylines. I would counter that over over the last four or five years, the cultural programs brought by Radium, by West End Arts District, and by a number of other organizations have breathed life into this area.

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Through opera performances, dance performances, photography festivals, cultural festivals, we have brought people of all ages from across Alameda and from across the bay to discover Alameda Point. It is through the arts and culture that Alameda Point is able or will be able to transform into a new and vibrant district, all the while paying homage to its fascinating history. And I believe that Radium is going to be at the absolute center of that transformation. I urge you to approve the proposal. Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker is Nick Winkworth.

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Hello. My name is Nick Winkworth. I'm a resident at the West End. I'm just speaking for myself as a resident. I moved here to Balameda in 2019.

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And one of the reasons that really attracted me to this area was both the incredible history and the incredible potential of what is now Alameda Point. And I have to say I've been disappointed in the speed of that transition. And while the potential is not being realized, I'm watching some of those wonderful historic buildings crumble and decay. And I think I think that this is this is a critical project that will drive, vibrancy, people, revenue into into that and realize the potential that there is there. It'll bring businesses in.

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It'll it'll this is really critical. And I think that the plan that we sort of by the way this is the first time I saw those renderings and I think it looks absolutely fabulous. I think the views from too. So, as a supporter of you know the arts in Alameda, somebody who really wants this area to become exciting and a home for the arts, this is this is the Keystone project that will start that happening. And finally, we'll get some of that potential realized I think. And that will be the point. So I want to support this project wholeheartedly.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Next speaker is Ben

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Hello, my name is Ben Micas. You to the Board for giving us time to speak tonight. I

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an architect of about twenty five years in practice. I'm a West End resident of about fifteen years. And I'm also a member of the Radian Board. I want to kind of cut right to the chase, the task at hand, and some of the changes that have been made through the productive discussion between Radium and the design team and the historic advisory board over the past several years. The shifting of the theater to the West has done three really interesting and positive things.

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One, it's created about a quarter acre of additional public open space that will be made available to the entire city of Alameda. Quarter acre. That's huge. Secondly, it has cleared the view corridor in front of Building 77, which the 40 foot width of the view corridor is completely clear. And third, it has aligned or kept clear the new view corridor down the center line to coordinate with the way the property lines have been moved as has been discussed today.

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It's also worth pointing out that the way the Alameda Precise Plan was devised, along the seaplane lagoon, there's a band of public open space, which has started to take shape with the park that is there today. Set back from that band of public open space is a band designated for infill development, which radium represents the first piece of many that will march down along the taxiway parallel to that band of public open space. The views of the city, the views of the seaplane lagoon will forever be preserved in that band of public open space right along the water while allowing the infill development to happen, set back from it, which will enable businesses and culture and people to have a reason to come here enjoy those public open spaces. So I think the fact that Radium represents the first installment of that development together with the public open space in front of it is a huge accomplishment for the city, which everyone in this room should be proud of. And I think the the negotiation process that's happened and the back and forth between the team and the board and other stakeholders has been really tremendous and has made things better.

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More public open space, more preservation of history, more preservation of view corridors, and just a better overall space for culture in Alameda. So thank you. I support this project. Thank you.

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Next speaker, Shelby Sheehan.

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can't hear you.

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Sorry. I just respectfully request a couple extra minutes because I was unable to do the, public comment because I was online, but I could not they could not give me, audible access. And if you could put the, cover page of the plans up on the screen, I would appreciate it.

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We're not going to be able to grant you the extra minutes. We have a pretty big agenda. So everybody's going to

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have to I save on the love this project. I think it's a beautiful building. However, you cannot violate superior law. It does degrade this historic district. They said so themselves that it alters it. That means that it does not comply with the secretary's standards. It either complies or it doesn't. If it alters it, it does not comply with the Secretary's standards. And further environmental review is supposed to be made. I gave you a comprehensive, over 20 page, because it has exact excerpts and page numbers from the governing standards.

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It does not comply with the Alameda EIR because you have to do an alternative analysis. It does not comply with a site A because it's supposed to be low development, not a big building that overtakes the massing of the entire taxiway. You have to go around the theater to get to the waterway. That's not what the site A applies. And moreover, it violates the public trust, which is a state law that you can't violate because uplands adjacent to the public trust must be kept clear for unfettered access for the public visually and physically.

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And it destroys every single character defining feature of the taxiway. So to say that this complies with the preservation requirements in the historic district is absolutely false, not sort of, okay? I I put every single law in there. I put links to the documents. I put quotes and page numbers.

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It does not comply with the zoning code. The the city cannot break its own zoning code. Okay? That makes the approval ultra vires, and it confers no vested rights, which I would be very afraid of if I were you guys because the the, the, challenge to that is to say, but we got rights. No, when you do an ultra varied approval that the law doesn't allow you to do, it doesn't confer rights.

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And you'll have to unbuild anything you've built. And you're subject your project to challenge, and the whole thing is void. You guys have a fiduciary duty to protect the historic resources. This project must undergo an alternatives analysis. It must undergo a finding of significance under CEQA 15,062 B1, I believe it is. It's all in there. You can read it from start to finish. It's long. It's worth it. It should be your reference guide, not we like this project. I'm a performing arts person. It shall not be located in this historic district.

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Thank you.

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State law, public trust. That's your big one.

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Any other speakers, Brian?

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No other speakers.

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Okay, great. Thanks everybody who commented both online and in person and for the presentations. Let's move now to questions. We want to start with you, Brian, if we could rewind you. And I'll open it up to my colleagues. Questions for Brian?

1:14:27 – 1:14:383

I'm going to ask some questions about the project just so I can get my head around it a little better. You referenced an interim parking lot which I saw in some drawings but I didn't see in others. Can you help me understand that

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a little bit better?

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Yes. So the current expectation, and this is some of this obligation is gonna be written into the agreement for with the applicant when in terms of the ground lease and the purchase option, is to provide some interim parking on the taxiway. What that final configuration do you enter at the top? Do you enter on the side? What's the shape of the vehicle turnaround?

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You know, it's a little bit TBD and will be addressed during the design review phase and tentative map phase. This area has not been sort of fully, parcelized for development yet. And so the Alameda Point basically was envisioned in 2014 when they adopted the zoning and and the project. Trying to build a transit oriented development on the base as a whole. And the idea was that the city would have there there would be less than what maybe people were used to at that time.

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We're getting a little more used to it these days. Less private parking associated with private development. And the city would manage publicly owned parking lots that would serve multiple users, share space. And so the city, as the site A develops and then the rest of the base continues to develop, is looking at where there's some preliminary anticipated parking areas in the PRECISE plan.

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Pardon me, Brent. Miss miss Shelby, I'm gonna have to ask you to hold your comments. It's rude and inconsiderate. So please hold your comments while presentations are going on. You're out of order. You're out of order. Please, please hold your comments. Thank you.

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So in the meantime, as we sort of are doing this bit by bit, right, we're not doing the whole precise plan development all at once. We think that this area is an appropriate sort of interim step, potentially as site a phase two or some other spaces are identified as we continue to redevelop the base. We'll continue to study and figure out where the right place is for those more permanent, whether it's surface parking lots that are integrated into development or potentially structured lots that are in between some of the developments that would serve the area. But this is basically what the for now, right? So it could be a long time before the rest of that taxiway redevelops. There's a lot of big infrastructure required out there.

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So would it be safe to say that you'll be providing and I think it was like 160 spaces, you'll be providing a certain amount of spaces initially. And then as things develop, if there's a better use for that space, it may no longer be a parking lot that you might just provide at someplace else. Or I saw some plan for a shuttle to the parking over at the ferry.

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Yeah. I think the idea is that it's and I won't speak to what's going to be in the sort of agreement with the city council, But we would see it as an interim facility. But it would be part of sort of a phased approach to management of parking as a whole for the entire base.

1:17:58 – 1:18:404

Again, I'm going have to ask you to hold your comments. You're interrupting the meeting. We're trying to ask questions. You had your time at the mic, so please hold your comments. You've you've also submitted a very lengthy written comment, which which which we are gonna review or and we're gonna discuss. But for now, we need you to hold. We need you to hold your comments. Do you understand? Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Let's continue with questions. Any other? Because I have some as well. Actually, I don't have it for Brian.

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So Brian not for Brian. If we could roll back to the timeline, I just wanted to sort of look forward a little bit. I mean, I understand because I was here in June '24 and some of the meetings that we were able to do as a subcommittee. Could you talk about, at least in theory, the process from us forward?

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Sure. I think, you know, we're asking the HAP to approve, issue the certificate approval tonight for the project, before you. If the project comes back in basically its current form, I mean, you know, some substantially consistent with what's before you tonight, they may only need to get that design review approval from the planning board in the future. Typically, what we do with projects like this historically is we would bring that design review application to the HAB for review and comment for anything that you might want to have the planning board consider. If the project changes a lot, like the building looks completely different and the analysis, as relates to the Secretary of Interior Standards or something, changes to a degree that it's not the same project and the same analysis doesn't apply, they would have to come back to the HAB for a fresh certificate of approval.

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So this is doing a couple of different things right now.

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vetting the project to an extent. It's also proving to the applicant and to the city council that the community is the advisory boards have reviewed it from a certain point of view. There's a certain level of comfort. And people could raise issues if they see any. And they have a project that they know is approvable or has been approved when they go work to finish their fundraising and bring it to construction.

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So from here, again, hypothetically speaking, it would next go to planning board. They're gonna have their process around it. Then from there, it goes to city council.

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Right. So the next step is gonna be to take the, essentially, this package to the planning board as an amendment to the Site A development plan, which sort of, you know, as we go from the general plan to the zoning to the precise plan to the Site A development plan, and now to a block level amendment to that Site A development plan, we're getting more and more detailed about, like, what are the uses? Where are the big pieces going to go? There's a road here. There's a plaza there.

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There's a theater there. You know, there's some conceptual elements, here that are relevant for your review because you need to kind of review an entire project. But the planning board really is looking at the big picture right now. And the level of detail that you're considering today is more going to be what they really dig into at the design review phase in the future.

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Correct. Okay, great. Thank you.

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Can I add on to your question there? Yes, please. So how long do you expect the review process to take and how long do you expect sort of the design and construction? So when do we anticipate this thing being done? And I know it's kind of a

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Fuzzy math.

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Fuzzy math.

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It's a big project. I think if the applicant wants to speak to it, they can. I think I would anticipate that after the development plan approval, they're going to have some number of years of potentially even fundraising and developing those plans further. And then they come back for that design review approval, which then leads to probably a year to put the building permits up together and get them approved and construction. So if they break ground in five years, I'll be impressed at a very high level.

1:22:383

That's a little frightening.

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I see nods. I see nods. Team two thousand thirty. Yeah.

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So I won't be able to attend my daughter's dance recitals in the theater.

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But this is one of the challenges. We only have one board member that was here previously and now we're all learning about the project for the first time and it's going to keep going on and on and on. And this is a voluntary position for us. So there's going to be turnover here. There's going to be turnover just life.

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Thank you. That was my

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Thank you, Brian. Any other questions for Brian? I appreciate that. For the second presentation, do we have any questions from the applicant?

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Yes. Yes, just to follow-up on Member Koretz's comment about as someone who wasn't here in 2024, I appreciated the going through the history of the the layouts and the the different concepts. And I was gonna ask, what the inspiration for the diagonal and boomerang shank pathways, but that, the the photo of the the airplane sounds like, oh, that's extremely clever. In one of the layouts, and I believe it was from June 2024, the red boundary extended up to the entry of the Naval Air Museum. And then I don't think I caught why that part got taken out, but then there was a triangular piece off to the east that was added.

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I understand the concept for that and appreciate that. I just wanted to know if, I guess, why that part was taken off because that seemed to be fairly consistent with the view corridor, which I appreciate the building getting moved because I did see when I was out there, yeah, when you turn around, you put your back to the to the Naval Air Museum and that center line runs you to the big steel sculpture and even across the the water to the to the USS Hornet. So I like how that kind of ties all these amazing pieces that we have in this area. But So my question would be what I guess, kind of what changed and and yeah. Why we why why we're not kind of looping that little little bit in to tie the the building in a bit more?

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I'm I'm happy to speak to that. Tim might be able to add some context. You may, you may or may not know that, one of the issues with this site is that it needs to be elevated in order to, raise it above the new, flood level, for the bay. So the, waterfront park steps up as you move away from the seaplane lagoon about three feet above the existing runway surface or paved surface where the planes were parked. And we are raising our site a similar amount so that it is out of that floodplain.

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So as you move towards the Naval Air Museum, in the original plan, the idea was to have a sloped surface from this roadway down to the front door of the existing Naval Air Museum that would allow you to access that more directly via wheelchair. Of course, when you arrive at the Naval Air Museum, you're immediately confronted with a series of stairs. So that doesn't really give you great access to the point of entry for someone who's in a, you know, who has mobility challenges to the existing naval air museum. Secondly, that slope surface serves to direct any kind of water runoff against the face of that existing building, and we don't want to do anything that could damage the building. So in lieu of that, we have now a series of steps that take you from the elevated roadway and the elevated surface of the plaza down to the existing elevation there in front of the Naval Air Museum.

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And in this triangular shape that we have adjacent to Pan Am Way, we have incorporated a ramp that is the mobility access to the existing grade and actually directs you more more directly to the accessible entry to the Naval Air Museum. Tim, is there anything I missed?

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No. That's well said. Thanks.

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And that I think that's a great question. I had I had the same question, and I think it's kind of a missed opportunity to not continue to at least attempt to develop that. You've created this connection between the Air Museum and the new art center. But you're missing the main point of that connection which is that main entry to the Naval Air Museum. So, my opinion is that it's a missed opportunity to create a greater connection there.

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And I also think that there is maybe a missed opportunity on the southern side of the plaza. And it's where it connects up to the lagoon, the new can you go back? You had the slide up when it was just sort of pulled out a little bit further. It looks like, so there's a pretty, this one right here. Thank you.

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It looks like there's a pretty specific design to the existing the Waterfront Park Promenade there. They've got very, very serious geometric plans in paving there. And then in the performing arts center, it's almost like there's just a line drawn between the two and that the geometries completely change once you cross that imaginary line, although we all know it's because it's the property line. So I think that I think there's another missed opportunity there where there could be a better cohesion between what's existing, the sort of new improvements that we have both on the northern entry and on the southern portion there.

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And as the board member who was around through the conversation so far, we actually spent quite a bit of time discussing the elevations and was it high enough given sea level rise considerations? And I know the storm water topic was a part of our discussion and like, well, how are you going to handle potential damage to the building? So it's a sticky wicket.

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Right. Well, I imagine the soils out here are trouble. Yeah. It's all fill.

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If I could add to that, I think you can see here project actually proposes to go beyond the proposed property line and rework the northern portion of the Seaplane Lagoon Park. So I'll bring in the exhibit from the plan set here that that shows sort of the existing condition to the south with this row of trees, this little turf performance area in the middle. And so the the design actually attempts to to basically Transition. Redo part of the existing park in order to integrate it more holistically. But there is sort of this Baytrail element at the project boundary here where the it creates sort of a hard cutoff between the project.

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Super. Thank you. Other questions? Josh? Well, I wanted to say to the applicants having come this far with you how impressed I am with the professionalism and care and thoughtfulness that has gone into this, you know, morphing plan and attempts to respond to all these, you know, different viewpoints and perspectives.

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And it must be very trying at times, so stick with it would be my overall response. I did also want to say just as a point of reflection that I've heard and seen demonstrated consistently this idea of the performing arts center as that of a catalyst or a keystone feature as a spark for more development. And I think that rings loud and true in what I've seen in these revised plans. So thank you for that. Time for public comments has already been closed, but thank you.

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Again, I I understand you have perspectives on this matter. There there there is a process that we're trying to follow. We need to give equal time to I'm gonna ask staff for some advice on interruptions of the public meeting. Sure. So you

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could find her out of order and give her a warning that if she's out of order again that she has to leave. And if she doesn't leave, we can think about calling the police or

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something. Okay.

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But she's disrupting public hearing.

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So I I have already pointed out to you that you are out

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of I have pointed out that you are out of order.

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I have already I've already pointed this out. Okay. One more time and thank you. Thank you. Other comments or questions from the committee members? Do we want to talk about any of the materials? Just

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bear with me here for a second. I do have a question. I'm curious about if there were like an economic analysis that was done for this. I know this is a P3 project and so presumably there's people that do have a real financial interest in this being successful. I saw someone nodding their head, yes, there's been some economic analysis done on that. I'd be interested just to hear very briefly about sort of how this works out, just concerned about the longevity of a project like this because we all know these performing arts centers can be difficult to be profitable.

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I'll let the applicant answer for themselves. I have some of the history. We've asked similar questions.

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Okay. All right. Well, thanks for

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asked the question we all ask ourselves. But this is entirely intended to be driven by philanthropy. No one has any financial interest in it other than contractors and employees and things like that. As you noted, if you have experience with performing arts centers, yes, they don't always pencil out. It takes a whole lot to make that work, in particular because we're trying to cater to a certain size of performance.

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So with a 600 seat theater, it's much smaller than than than the larger performing arts center, places where you can bring in, you know, really large name brand acts and and and and possibly make the make it balanced. It's also much larger than the 100 seat theaters, which can kind of come and go. So it is a balancing act. You heard breaking ground in five years. Part of that is identifying who is going to be able to support a project of this size. But yes, it's entirely philanthropy driven. It is intended to be a good thing for everyone around.

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Yeah, Does that absolutely.

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And I would just chime in because we had a lot of conversation about this. Is it big enough? We get one tilt at this windmill as a community to build a performing arts center. You're not gonna build one and then like, oh, we needed a bigger one. Right.

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Is it designed for expansion?

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But there was a lot of conversation and a lot of detail that the applicant provided about why this is a right sized center as far as how sustainable it is, the types and kinds of performances that it can house, how it would differentiate itself from other venues in

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the area. So it was a robust To speak to that, a 600 seat theater accommodates a certain size performance. That said, we envision a lot of secondary spaces in the building and around the building to be able to accommodate more. So with the help of Surface, they've designed this plaza so that we could possibly have more than 1,000 people, you know, in an outdoor performance. And as Michael explained, the front doors that would roll open like the hangar, we would be able to blend the lobby and the outside as well. So it's meant to be able to be flexible many different ways.

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Thank you. It's going to

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be hard to meet Title 24 with those windows.

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Maybe there's technology.

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Do you want to add in?

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If we have recommendations versus questions, can we move in?

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Yes, yes. If we want to move into our

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discussion. Okay.

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Thanks so much, everyone, for your presentations. It's really great to see I was a member of the public who saw this right before I got appointed. So it's nice to come back and see it now in this capacity. And obviously, a lot of consideration of past comments have gone into refining this, and I really appreciate that. I just have a couple of suggestions.

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If we can go to the cover page of the plan set. The yeah. I think I think this is the same picture that's on the top of the plan set. I would recommend amending, adjusting this rendering to show the current condition of the waterfront park next to the proposed theater building. Right now, it shows the park pushing past soup in Ramp 3 versus its current location, which is just before Ramp 4.

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I did see several helpful renderings in the presentation tonight that weren't in the plan set that I recall, particularly that help show how this building relates to Building 77 just

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we can provide a realistic perspective of how those masses compare. Let's see. I agree with ARG's standards analysis. I do want to highlight that the rehabilitation standards which are used are the only standards of the four different treatment approaches that allow for additions and they're specifically designed to help address alterations. So they're appropriate.

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Again, you're out of order.

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So what I would suggest though, just for lay audiences, I think it may be easier to interpret those if they're included in order. I do appreciate highlighting Standard nine as an important one for new construction. I agree with ARG's recommendations regarding the tower cladding. I think if the cladding is consistent with whatever's on the rest of the building, that would be great. I was even thinking, hey, what if the fly tower had sort of a transparent glazing element that might help reduce some of the visual weight of that 70 foot element of the building?

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Let's see.

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I also agree with the consultant's comments regarding the terracing. And I encourage you to consider a balance of providing that public amenity, addressing sea level rise, but also trying to trying to balance that with the flat nature of the runway. The the west elevation, I actually I don't mind the current fenestration pattern too much. I could see something like a horizontal band going across. But I I think I also see how that what is right now I guess the rear or west elevation, it does continue a pattern that starts on the west side of the north and south elevation.

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So that's my other comment there. Can we pull up, there's a historic photos exhibit I think it's called. I'll try and keep this brief. There's a lot of attention placed on views in this area, and rightly so. It's a in terms of a space and in terms of the buildings that are here, it's it has a monumental quality to it.

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This view is from 1945. It also appears in the National Register nomination. And when we're thinking of character defining features and retaining the character of a district, historians will go to the period of significance to think about what those features are. So for NAS Alameda, 1938 to 1945, think of this as peak World War II. Right?

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You've got a full taxiway. You have varying types of seaplanes, flying boats positioned along the edge of the seaplane lagoon and adjacent to the hangars. There is a discernible gap between them. But you also have clear north south axes that line up between the hangars and go to those seaplane ramps. If you look at what is currently Pan Am Way, that that is actually where some planes were parked next to Building 41.

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And what is currently West Atlantic, That was actually this interesting road that kinda came into the base. You can tell there was a rail line there and this kind of almond shaped median. Today, a portion of that is left and there's a jet positioned in there. But the point I'd like to make is that up until about 2017, the current experience that you have going into this portion of the base was a lot different. You may have seen parts of the skyline, which I love seeing as much as anybody else.

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But when we're thinking about what what was the base like during its period of significance, today's quite a bit different when you're entering from the from the East. Can we go to

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the next

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slide? So here in 1945, this is a typical day at the Seaplane Lagoon and on the taxiway. What I think is important about this view is that, yes, the taxiway was busy, but there's an element of transparency where you can still see the hangars in the background, right, depending on where you're standing, more or less. The further you get away, you'll see those 50 foot buildings a bit more. Can we go to the next?

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This was last year when the Marianas Mars made a pit stop before it was formerly taken to a museum and kind of decommissioned. This was the busiest day I've seen at Seaplane Lagoon. And what you can see, there are clear horizontal datums with seawall on the north side of the lagoon. You can still see the hangars. You can even see the kind of vertical element of the sculpture.

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Can we go to the next? And then here's today, kind of looking from a supine ramp. So the point I'd like to make with this digression is I think that one of the opportunities since we have not extended the park and development further west yet is to really reinforce the circulation and the relationship between the hangars, Building 77, the ramps and the lagoon. If development does occur westward, we can be really careful about how that's ironed out. We've seen from the town center plan that it was made what, ten years and a pandemic ago, if you think about it, right?

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Different economic situation, different world. So the plans can evolve and change. We have the ability to comment on them and and kind of shape them to the best of our ability. I would really pay attention to how those relationships interact, look for opportunities to interpret them, which I'm I'm glad to see there's some movement there for this project. But let's not let's not worry so much about these views as much as what the experience is like when you're on the ground here.

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Thank you. Any other comments, materials or analysis? It's interesting that you were mentioning the, what is it called the fly tower, the material for that. So I think the majority of this building is precast concrete, which I think is obviously very thoughtful and appropriate for this environment. And then the fly tower, I think was like a, it was a stainless steel metal cladding which, yeah, that's a nice view of it there.

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So I thought that in a way that that would be pretty appropriate because it is still a very industrial material but it's just like a top shelf industrial material, right? It makes reference to maybe the hangar doors which are also made out of metal. But I think it just, it sort of elevates it up a little bit even though it's this complementary background item. The precast is clearly the main show here. I like that little complementary stainless steel metal cladding.

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So that's just to give an opposing view to I wouldn't like to see it go into precast which is such a heavy material. I think it's nice to have something floating there inside of the precast. So just an opposing perspective, I guess.

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I actually would agree with you about the material for the flight tower. I like that it was I think in the notes, was saying it referencing the the airplane material. We've already got those kind of angled planters and angled walkways, are are referencing the materials. I'd I'd like that we the the design of this building is echoing the surrounding buildings as paying homage to the to the hangars with the the layout of the doors on that, east side. And you have the the the streamline streamline modern curves.

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So it's touching on different important buildings, but then I think it's still okay to have to bring in a new material if it's still relative to the historic things that took place. So I actually really I got kind of excited when it said it was gonna be clad in stainless steel. And generally speaking, I just do really appreciate the overall design of the building and the layout, like I was saying earlier about maintaining those axes of view.

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Excuse me. It is not your turn to speak. You are out of order. Thank you.

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I think that was about it.

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Thank you. I just wanted to touch base because it's been brought up the ARG analysis, which I think is where the suggestion for the alternate, I think it's their third suggestion. I thought the analysis was overall very compelling and I appreciated that they took the extra effort to say, oh, and here's a couple of things while we're at it that we might suggest. One of the things that came to my mind as that initial slide is like a sort of a semi almost dark The name of this thing is the Radian Theater and the idea of it projecting light and shining as a beacon. We're talking about it as a catalyst and as a cornerstone.

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It should be something very visible. So whether it's stainless or not, whether it's glass, but the fact that this building should radiate, come here, look, this is amazing. This is a sight to behold. Like, that's the kind of energy that that tower presents an opportunity for. So I would encourage thinking along those lines.

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This should be something you can see from San Francisco and say, hey, what's that? Let's go there. I always think of it as like the what is the church on the hill here? Oh, the Mormon Temple. The Mormon Temple. My kids growing up would always be like, can we go there? What is that shining white thing on the hill? And so we did, to look at their Christmas decorations. But don't underestimate the can be seen from a far aspect. Aspect.

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Well, and and I think you hit on something really important is and that rendering, I think, does a pretty nice job. But I've seen renderings at the concept level that don't quite make it to actually being constructed. But lighting is essential for this thing, right? Especially at night. And if you are gonna be able to do all that glass there, now you'll be able to light it up on the inside and really have, show some activity, right? Let's show people that Alameda is alive. So I think lighting is gonna be one of the, it's it's oftentimes undervalued, but it will be so important for the design of this facility. And I would like to see that stainless steel tower with some nice lights on it.

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Also as part of my comments around the revised design, and I know that there's already more of the artifacts brought in. I don't know if this suggestion is in the nervous system somewhere, but to the degree that you can engage with the Naval Air Museum on what those artifacts are and, you know, again, to make a bridge connection. They have some stuff out front already. I'm sure they know where more stuff is. But talk to them so that it becomes more our shared place than the Naval Air Museum.

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The line stops here, then it becomes radium.

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I'm curious, and maybe one of my board members know the answer, but how utilized is the Naval Air Museum?

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That was actually gonna be my question too because I know it's closed.

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I've been to it once as part of an Alameda Architectural Preservation Society award ceremony. It's a really interesting spot if you can get in there. I see that as being it will inevitably be after Radium Theater exists, the bar and Grill, like it's going to be something and it's going to be really So

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the intention is that we're creating opportunity for this building to thrive a little bit

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more It'll in the give it a new lease on life by association as far as I could see. But it's a great spot. And they even would host a I think it was like a brunch. So there's like a viewing that on that second level you can you have quite a view from there.

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I would also add that Anim in particular was instrumental in helping prepare the seaplane lagoon signage. And when you're thinking about interpretation and kind of like what is the heart and soul of this district, volunteers that are there are part of a generation that worked at the base when it was still active. And so they've got oral history. They've got nice photos. They've got models of planes and things like that.

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So they're a great group to engage with and I'll always be grateful for them. That's why there's ANAM on all those panels down there. But yes, look them up.

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Do we want to discuss anything else as far as the exhibits? We had talked about the ARG analysis. We also have a draft resolution that we should be looking at. Any comments on the draft resolution?

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Okay. So I'm on the top of page six. This is the only comment I have. And I'm looking at the second to last sentence in that top paragraph where it says I'll let you scroll down to it. Yeah, right there.

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So the second to last paragraph or sorry, the first paragraph, second to last sentence where it says the project maintains Building 70 Seven's visual relationship to the Seaplane Lagoon with the 40 foot view corridor. I would just suggest revising this a bit to say the project does reduce visibility of Building 77 from the Seaplane Lagoon but does not completely obscure visibility of these contributing buildings. I think that more accurately describes how there is a reduction, but there is some retention of that view that was deemed important. And certainly from Pan Am Way, you can still see both buildings mentioned.

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Other comments about the draft?

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We move to approve. Yeah.

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Do we have any motions?

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I will move to approve certificate of appropriateness with the change to the resolution.

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Discussion? Second. All in favor? Aye.

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Aye. Aye. The motion carries. Motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Really appreciate you guys coming out. And again, everybody, for their comments and participation. This is an amazing opportunity for Alameda, and we wish you all the best of luck.

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Thank you very much.

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Now moving on to Item 4B, some very exciting recent local adaptive reuse presentations. What's the order of operations? Are we going to do 1200 Park Street or 500 Central Ave first? Who wants to go first? Do we have presentations?

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We'll put the improv people on the spot. I know that there's a timer for this portion. We're just excited to hear about what you what you guys have done.

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Well, I just lost most of my audience, and I'm okay with that. There's still lots of folks here. Hi. My name is Claire Slattery, and I was very excited to be invited tonight. Thank you, Josh, and the rest of the board to tell a little bit of an uplifting story about an adaptive reuse project that is very recent here in Alameda on the West End. I am the founder and creator of Improv Central, which is I'm going to tell you a little bit more about as I tell you and start at the beginning around what this building is, 500 Central Avenue, as we're looking at it right now. So go ahead and next slide, please. Oh, yeah, great. Control? Love it.

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Got it. Okay, thank you. So most of what information I have come into knowledge of came from the son-in-law and the daughter of the owners of this property. It's a very unique double lot that goes up to the waterfront on Vienna Bay. And we actually, fun fact, live upstairs.

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So we live on the top flat as residents. And then short after moving back, after having not lived here for twenty years, we moved back to the top flat and then there was the opportunity to look at the bottom floor. But the building itself is incredibly fascinating. So some of the documents that were shared with me, I wanted to share here tonight to talk a little bit about this really incredible historic building. So this 500 Central building, the entire two story building was, put on a large barge and transported across the bay in its entirety to be placed right there at 5th Street and Central Avenue.

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And there's an article in the Alameda Argus from March 17, almost the anniversary of that, back in 1886. And so this was a very exciting time because it would become one of the two buildings that would be placed right there at the 5th Street Station and be part of the 5th Street Station neighborhood. One of the pic the picture that I have there that's circled with the the red ink, that's the announcement in the Alameda Argus. And then the other image is a photograph taken of the 500 Central Business Building in 1979, when it was a neighborhood small business, which it became yet again recently. So a little more about what do I mean when I say 5th Street Station.

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So we are in the era of cars, as we all know, but bikes more lately if you've been to 5th And Central Avenue. But this used to be a corridor for the South Pacific Coast Railroad. And so this was, after the closure of the 6th Street Station. In 1885, they opened it just one block down, the 5th Street Station. So these two buildings still very much exist, still look almost exactly the same, maybe with some different treatments to the building.

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The exterior is slightly different, but the storefronts on the Ground Floor are almost identical to the 1886 buildings that they were. And so it's remained a small neighborhood business and is zoned as such. Let's see. Great. So this is another map from the Alameda Post article that talked about the different stations and F, F is me.

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I'm now F. So that is the 500 Central Building at the 5th Street Station. So a lot of people ask me, well, how did you come to call it Improv Central? That is the name of the new business that exists on the Ground Floor in this historic 1886 building. And well, I'm an improviser and I very much am inspired by my environs and choose not to overthink but to let the environment inspire me.

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And so it was on Central Avenue. It was the historic location of a railroad. And I find that improv itself is a very essential and central gathering place and essential and central skill for us as humans. And so it very much, felt like when this historic information was given to me, it felt very like an Like, of course, that is the name. This is now the the new moment that this building is experiencing in its adaptive reuse history.

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Now this is what is meant to be here or so I like to believe. So what does on a 100 a 140 year old building teach me? Well, keeps me humble. There were a lot of discoveries along the way. Yes, The building leans, pretty substantially.

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We learned that in our facade, upgrades and refurbishments. Inside, wildly uneven floors, very interesting foundation, very high levels of cement on the sides, walls leaning out in, imperfect in every way, which again felt very fitting for an improvisation community hub. We were being asked to improvise at every step. So here, we are. I got the keys.

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That is, Peter, who is the son-in-law and did a lot of the contracting there on the property. His wife Cecilia, the daughter of the owner and their brand new baby Charlotte. And this was back in May 2025 when I got the keys to the place. Now here's some before photos of the interior. I'll talk a little bit about the exterior and perhaps, maybe more of why Josh invites me invited me here tonight.

2:04:50 – 2:05:3116

But the interior, this is what it was. So to my understanding, the last time this was an active used building was, about a decade ago. And it's been a real delight to meet lots of neighbors, along the journey of refurbishing and creating a reuse and opportunity for this building because it's been very fun to notice all the different stories of people showing up from the neighborhood saying, oh, I my hair, I got my hair cut at this place, or I took a sewing class in here back when I was a kid, or oh, this used to be, this comic book shop. That's what it was. It's everybody's slice of experience kind of brought back into the moment.

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And you can see them recalling the images and what this space meant to them. Similarly, so many people along the journey have been so excited that something is back here. Comments like, oh, it's alive. There's something alive here. Oh, you've given this energy. This space is happening. Something's happening here again has felt very humbling, to be part of that, piece of this continued building's history. So this is what it looked like before. And then I had the opportunity walking around the neighborhood. Again, I mentioned where the residents that live upstairs.

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I walked around the neighborhood and, I saw in a window in one of the Webster Street, businesses, facade grant program. And I looked closer and I was like, what what does what does that mean? What's that? Yay for non digital advertising and promoting of great, city services, and opportunities for small businesses because I looked at that, pulled it up on my phone, and saw that the deadline for the last opportunity of 2025 was in about a month to apply. And so again, in the very improv spirit of the emergence of this place and the new adaptive reuse of this space, I said, okay, challenge accepted.

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I really want to to use the exterior and take this opportunity, and this great program that the city offers to help small businesses really understand the value of the impact of the facade of a building, that breathing new life to the inside would only be part of the way I wanted to really honor the history and meaning and placement of this important historic building in this corridor, on the West Side Of Alameda. And so I applied. It's a fifty fifty matching grant, if any small business owners are listening right now. And it was a great application process that helped me really spur and get my ideas out there and work with an amazing designer friend. And we we short short, answer is that we we got the money, and the grant funded custom backlit channel letter sign, custom metalwork, exterior refurbishment to the building, exterior painting, exterior gooseneck lighting, and exterior sconce lighting.

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So really taking into consideration the history of the building as we were doing some of these renewed designs. Right? That idea of, metalwork, the fact that it was a rail line. This idea that some of the lights and gooseneck lights having to, be similar to what you would find inside of a really beautiful historic, train, building or lobby of a train yard. Not a train yard, a

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Station.

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A train station. Thank you so much. A train station. And so it was really it was, again, a really wonderful prompt and creative container to, envision what and how we could honor that history of the building as we were building something new. Initially, we awarded a $50.50 grant of, about $7,000 and then after the and during the reimbursement process, we actually got it increased.

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So that was wonderful. They were such a fan of us at City Hall that they actually featured us as a little bit of the model of how this facade grant program could work. And as Jackie spoke said, she said, the after image really shows how you brought the building to life. Great job. So here, what we've all been waiting for, the before and after. Here we are. The before. That's right. Oh my gosh. Yes.

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A lot of work, a lot of people, a lot of different local businesses went into the the image you see on the right. And very it was a very proud day that Jackie emailed us and said, hey, by the way, we're we're featuring this in our city report. And when we talk to people and future future grantees, we're gonna show your business. And I felt incredibly humbled. It's been a real delight and a real opportunity to connect with community members in this process of reusing a historic building.

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I think it would the conversation, the connection with the community, both as a new and returned resident to Alameda myself, the conversation would be very different if it was a brand new building or if it was, in a different kind of space. But the fact that this is such a historic building with so many memories and such a presence on the West Side, it's just caused so many more moments of interaction, moments of possible even business as well. So that's been a real partnership. What we say in improv that the building has been a scene partner to me and has been a great one as well. So remember these photos?

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Yes, yes. Well, now it looks like this. So we did a ton inside, New lighting, new, LVP flooring, built in benches, paint, electrical, plants, bringing more color and life inside. A lot of the design elements were about creating curvature and some of, again, looking at some amazing train stations, some of those, beautiful benches that have a curved edge on it built in wood, and some of those natural wood elements to match some of the exterior metalwork as well. And we're super proud.

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You saw Tara earlier. She was there at the grand opening in bourbon cutting, also with council member Boulder, just about five months ago. We've been in business five months. We've already worked with and welcomed over 400 unique customers into our doors. We just recently got second place in the Alameda Post contest for Best Arts Organization and also for Best Website.

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And there's been a lot of neighborhood support and a lot more is possible. So I'll briefly touch on what Improv Central is and then I can't wait to hear more about Park Station. So I'll pass it over there in a moment. Improv Central, as I've been mentioning, is hopefully the new iteration of this building's history and honoring its legacy. It's the first community space where real life improvisers gather in person to build the courage, comp and confidence to navigate our unscripted lives together.

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This is, as was very clear in the zoning process, not a performance space. This is not for performances. This is for workshops, events, gatherings, classes, a space for us to put down the performing and be present, to not aim for comedy, to not aim to impress, but to aim to really connect in our post COVID world and in a time when often we don't know our neighbors, when we want to know our neighbors. And we do that in a really beautifully way through improvisation. It's joyous and powerful and connective approach.

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So those are the experiences we're hoping to have. And these are pictures from our opening weekend, which was also featured on the front page of the Alameda Journal as well. We offer classes that are all about connect, improv for folks and families who want more ease, play, and community in their everyday lives. We have classes like improvised connection. That's our pay what you can class on Tuesday nights.

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We have a Friday connect class, family frolic, and monthly guest pop ups. For all of us, I think we probably all want to feel a little more present, a little more playful, a little bit more connected, a little bit more ready for the unknowns and unpredictable parts of our daily lives. We have classes for career, people who want to speak more confidently, who, maybe want to feel more themselves in their chosen careers, feel more creatively lit up, feel more authentic, and feel more ready to respond when it goes off the rails pun intended and historical nod to the building. Finally, we have craft classes, opportunities for folks to explore the foundational skills of improv, right, in a more performative sense but still with that idea that we can create scenes, improvised worlds, build characters, tell stories, without the pressure to perform but the opportunity to have an incredibly rewarding sense of imagination and creativity that we get to just enjoy, not have to entertain. We've had the likes of Jeff Raz and many more, and we're excited for more special guests ahead.

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Here's a little bit more. We're a member supported space, again, with that opportunity to be rooted as a neighborhood business and to be part of the journeys of people that will come and go. And hopefully, many, many Alamedans who will walk through our doors and experience something transformational, but experience something that is both bringing more of themselves into the moment and their history with them. So thank you for the opportunity to talk a little bit about what I have been neck deep in for the last year. It's been an honor to learn more about this building.

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I literally had other slides that I was like, oh, I could talk more about that. So happy to nerd out at any point. Thank you for the opportunity, and let's get some coffee and talk more. Thank

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you so much for sharing that and for the hard work.

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Absolutely. Thank you.

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Evening. Thank you. That was wonderful. Chair Hernandez, members of the board, it's great to see you all this evening. Thank you for having me and inviting me to share our project with you for the Park Station and Southview Restaurant.

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I'd like to point out here from the very beginning, if you look at our team our team of consultants there on the bottom line, you may recognize board member Brito was part of our team, so he's intimately familiar with this project as well. And then for those of you that are are not familiar with Park Station, I'll just use this rendering briefly to give a little bit of a sort of introduction. They were looking at San Jose Avenue on the right hand side, Park Street on the left hand side. The small building fronting Park Street is is now Southie Restaurant and the larger Taphouse building, which runs north south, fronts San Jose. And then as we get into the slides here, we'll see there's an interconnecting new building that houses the restroom and then of course the outdoor dining area.

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Okay, next one. So this property unlike our your previous presentation went through a lot of iterations from its from its original inception. So the the building was constructed in 1922. It served as a one story car storage garage and then quickly went through a series of expansions. The owner who owned it, mister Winkler had, excuse me, mister Garfinkel had a produce store across the street on Park Street as well.

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And through, trying to solve a problem in his business, he was trying to develop a way to display prices for his items. And so he came up with a tag system for his shelving that he then patented and very quickly moved away from selling groceries and developed and built a factory on this property. So we believe that the fit image that we're seeing here, which was given to my clients, the current owners by the original owner's family, dates to around 1925 when he had received his patent and had now added a second story to the building. So as I mentioned, a series of expansions occurred 1925, 1929, 1937 were all expansions. The building that houses Southie, the restaurant that fronts Park, was built in 1928.

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That was purpose built for a gas station that was leased by the owner to, to the operator of the gas station. In 1956, the Clamp Swing Company apparently was outgrowing its current space. And so they actually moved to Blanding, and moved into what is now the Rhythmics Building. So a little bit of connection there with some of the performing arts. And then the building then went through several remodels in over time.

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I believe it was in the early seventies that Big O Tires moved in there. They went through a remodel in 1982. They changed some storefronts. So all that to say is that when Woody Miner performed his historic inventory in 1990, he deemed that although there was a compelling history behind the ownership of the building, there wasn't really any character defining features or anything that merited recommending it for recommendation for the National Registry. Okay.

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Next image, please. Okay. From the image on the top left is showing it's looking north. And so we can see there that the original windows appear to be wood double hungs. There were carriage house doors presumably for the cars, for the car storage.

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At this stage, there was already a 2nd Floor, so we assumed that this was part of and this was probably circa 1929 or 1936. We can see that construction and expansion was happening. The lower right image is looking towards the south towards San Jose. So this building at this stage would have been a u shape, and that new brick wall that's being built is what gave it its current shape, which is a rectangular building. Next image, please.

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Okay. So this is now on the top. We're seeing the last tenant before my clients purchased the building. So Big O Tires was in operation. We see San Jose on the right and the long tap what's now serving as a Taphouse building fronting San Jose.

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We see they had a marquee sign on the corner there, parking lot in between the two buildings, and then they had a service. So basically, the tires were handled in the large building, oil changes, and mechanical repairs were handled in the small building. On the lower image, we see sort of the condition that my clients received the building in. So it had been vacant for, I believe, close to ten years as well. A lot of work was being done to evaluate what remaining cleanup needed to happen for the site. Okay. Next image please. Okay. So just a quick shot of the aerial here. So on the top here, we see the white roof here is the small building.

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There is a metal shed that was a storage shed that sat between the two buildings. And then the current building now as it sits in its new rectangular configuration. The images on the top here are the existing, so that's what the restaurant building looked like. So that was the former service station. Important to note that that building was really a light steel building with with metal cladding on the outside and a metal roof. And sometime in the eighties, we believe, when Big O did their remodel, they added a brick veneer to the building. So that is not a true brick building. It's veneer over a metal shed. Okay. Thanks.

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So again, just looking sort of around the site. So top row, we see the restaurant building. The image in the middle shows the original restrooms. There were two single occupant restrooms. There was the storage shed that was, just built in between the two buildings.

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And then we see, we'll get into some of the images or some of the items that we that were nonhistoric that we removed and then some of the things that we added in their place. So a couple things here just to note. The you see these red semicircular bands, those are actually concrete headers. They were part of the original construction. This building had a fire in 1957.

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It was originally two stories after the fire when they rebuilt. They made it into a single story with a larger volume. All of the wood windows by this point had been replaced, so all of the upstairs Claire stories now are steel windows, and then the lower story had some steel windows and a combination of aluminum storefronts. All of these awnings you can see were canvas awnings that were added much, much later. And there was a marquee sign that was added to the building that apparently covers up a painted sign that probably advertised the business that was there previously.

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Next image. So this is our site plan. I'll try to be brief here. We added our bicycle parking is on the south side of the property along San Jose. Again, on the right here is the long building which services the Tap House. This gives us a a little bit of a look. So the large open area here is the bar and the seating area for the bar. This rectangle down here at the bottom is the back of house. So the cold storage occurs there in the in the kegs. And then this lower left rectangle is the private event space.

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Then we have the restaurant building at the top. So kitchen on the right hand side, cooking area in the middle, cafe area in the front facing park. And then the one intervention that we did is we we built a new building that connects the two for the restrooms. So we have men's and women's restrooms, a service alley in the back, and then a breezeway that allows access into the restrooms. And then you can see from this vantage point, just a couple of things to point out, parking lot obviously went away, gets replaced with outdoor dining.

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And we added a fence around the perimeter of the of the site. And at the corner, we we basically radiused the fence to kind of open up that corner and open up the views around the street, also to increase the landscape area in that particular corner so that we could kinda soften those edges. Okay. Next image, please. So these are some of the images showing some of the materials.

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This was from our original application for design review. We were looking at the materials that we wanted to apply to the new building. So replacing some of the existing roll up doors with glass front doors, reincorporating the painted signage for the buildings, some accordion doors to kind of accentuate the indooroutdoor of the event space. We replaced the canvas awnings with metal canopies. The wall outside of the restroom was designed to be a green wall. And then we had metal gates and fencing to kind of maintain the transparency from the public into the space. Next

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So just our elevations kind of showing the project as it took shape. The upper elevation is showing, focusing mainly on the Southie Building and its, its frontage on Park Street. This shows sort of from a the view from across the street with the fencing in the foreground, the large building in the background. It just gives you a sense of the size. I should point out that the large building needed a completely a new roof.

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And so one of the things that that gave us the opportunity to basically to put all of the new electrical and anything that we could get up on the roof, put up on the roof so that we wouldn't have any of that stuff showing on the interior of the building. So it allowed us to insulate and then allowed us to add all of our electrical on the top. Okay, next one. So this is showing the so this is kind of a split elevation. So we're looking at the south facing elevation of the restaurant in the top.

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It's kinda hard to make out from the rendering, but that's our green wall there on the face of the of the restroom. And then the lower elevation here is showing the street frontage along San Jose. So the painted signage starts to show here as we designed it, trying to kind of bring back the spirit of the original building and the way that it was advertised. Okay. Next image, please. So then here we get into some pictures. I'll try to be brief. On the left hand side is our bicycle parking on San Jose.

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right hand side, the clients contracted a, an artist who is related to their family or friends with their family. And he was available and willing to come and do some murals, so he did the mural for the roll up door facing San Jose. There you start to see some of our painted signage advertising the park station and the new canopies. Next image. So this is sitting looking at the this is one of the few photos that we have, but that is the wall that's prepped to be the green wall. So there's a planter strip in front of it. We've got a trellis to train the the plantings to grow up. Hopefully, Arthur promised it was gonna be done,

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but it's it's coming.

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It starts slow, but it ends up being amazing.

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Yeah. The image in the center is the breezeway that leads to the hand wash. So there's a hand wash station that's both for men and women. The men's room is in the far end. Women's room is in the near end. So one of the neat little features is the glass in these windows was replaced with colored glass. We went to Bullseye Glass. They had just opened, and we went and bought some glass from there. And really the idea was to so that those windows that sit behind the bark would still have some translucency, but you wouldn't be seeing people standing there washing their hands. And then a couple skylights up above to kind of borrow some light into that space as well.

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K. Next image. So this was the sign the signage. We worked with another artist, local artist who does signs. He was actually incredible. He he helped actually shape the final color selection for the logo. So he worked with the clients. The logo itself kind of you know, you see the tap. The park station evolved. The name changed many times, but park station, they settled on that because partly because of the train stations, partly because this had been a gas station, and the colors of the logo wind up being sort of the Lamons racing stripe colors.

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So that was sort of the evolution of the signage. The artist did a little bit of sleight of hand here. So you that was where that old marquee was, and the paint that was on the brick behind it was really difficult to get off. So he wound up saying, don't worry. You don't have to sandblast it. I'll paint in the brick. And so some of that brick's actually painted by the assigned artist to to recreate the original masonry and the grout lines. Next image. So this looking at the inside, so you see the two large bay roll up doors. So those re replaced service doors in their exact openings.

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They just became glass roll up doors. The clerestory windows up above, we replaced the factory glass that was there with translucent glass, again, to be able to kind of bring more light into the space and be able to see the trees beyond. The mechanical system is new, so that was one area where we did bring those items in, but we worked carefully with the mechanical subcontractor to try to lay this out in a way that it worked well with our lighting pattern and was as discreet as possible. On the right hand side, you see the tap. So this is what brings everybody to the space.

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Right? So it's the beer. So this tap pipe fitting that they bought on day one was sort of a a major sort of element that they were were very excited about, that they would be able to pour 32 beers at once, and then it had kind of this industrial feel that kind of brought it back to the factory feeling. And then we see the in the background, we'll see another image soon of the of the mural in the background. Next one. So yeah. So, again, there on the left hand side, you see the seating area at the bar. You see the clerestory windows opened up so that we can catch the glimpse of the sky beyond. And then on the right hand side, the bar seating and the the mural that was done. So, again, that was designed by the artist.

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He flew out here from Paris, was here for a weekend, and left us with this. So that's pretty amazing. Next one. Okay. And then finally, our the outdoor dining space. So I think really this project aside from the buildings, you know, having a really kind of cool historic feeling to them, really is the outdoor space that makes it. Right? Our our biggest goal in this whole project was really to tie the site to the surroundings. I think that this kinda shows really well how that corner got activated. It was really one of the things that our clients were really after.

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So the outdoor space really kind of brings the two buildings together, and it's really the fact that we were able to replace what was once an asphalt parking lot with something that brings a lot of life. The clients work very hard to make sure that their liquor license allowed them to bring children. So by having food and and alcohol, the liquor license that they were able to get allows them to have people of all ages, which is great. And they're also very dog friendly, so it's really just a community kind of attribute that we're very happy with. So thank you very much. Thanks, Ryan.

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Thank you, Norman. Super.

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We should have our next meeting there.

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All in favor?

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Great projects and we really appreciate you guys taking the time to not only sit through our previous agenda, but to explain what happened with your unique journeys. It's great to see the reuse of such great historic buildings and revitalization of people's memories and what could be is now once again. So thank you. Keep up the good work.

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We have a public speaker on the back. Would

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like to take that

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now? Ben

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Micas. Hello again. Ben Mikis, architect, West End resident, parent. Just wanted to say some words about Claire and the work she's done at Improv Central. It's been incredible.

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As one of the people she mentioned who lives around the corner and wandered over to see it when it first opened, that was me. And I can't say enough about the transformational effect it's had on on the West End. It's kind a big West End night here. But talking about view corridors and beacons from some of the conversation earlier, on the outside, it accomplishes both. Being at the end or the beginning of 5th Street, and being a lighting nerd myself, the the the choice of the lights, the the warm glow, her her pictures didn't really capture how much of a beacon it is that is visible from blocks away, all the way down 5th Street, because it's it's it's right there at the end of that of that t intersection.

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And then as a parent, I can also say how much of a transformational effect her work has had, on so many in the community. I've taken classes with her. My daughter who was in one of the photos with the hot pink hair, she's taking classes with her. Can't say enough good things. So it's been amazing to see the, the new addition to the neighborhood. So well done, Claire.

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Indeed. I drive by at least three times a week and you're definitely doing your lighting public service. So hopefully Alameda Municipal Power has a grant for that.

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Yeah. If if I could just add, I I think both of these projects are great showcases and these presentations about part of the role of this board is engaging with community and offering opportunities for interpretation, education. Comes right out of our our duties in the code. At at 500 Central, I I remember seeing that building next to it and thinking, wow. What a what an interesting pair.

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And I hope one day that that that building is is reactivated. And sure enough, I I think I was riding my bike down the partially completed bike lane, and I went, boom. And it was not ostentatious by any means, but it was, like, really refreshing just to see that pop of color and activity. The one thing that you you learn working with old buildings is that if they sit too long, they die. That's just a fact.

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There has to be activity to help them last a long time. And Park Station reactivating, what is certainly a a commercial district anchor now at the South End of Park Street. I think they're both great examples of adaptive reuse, in varying degrees.

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I think we got a couple of other things on our agenda. Board communications, staff communications, adjournment. Let it be that we are adjourned. Thank you all.

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think this was our record long

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