Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

19 2025 3:30 will come to order. Naika, could you please take role? Yes. Good evening. Commissioner Johnson, present. Commissioner Delgado, here. Commissioner Cililla, he is present. He's on the call. Okay. Uh, Vice Chair Rubakava here. Chair Wagner present. Thank you. Okay. Stand for invocation, please.

Lord, we come to you with thanksgiving in our heart. And the day of Thanksgiving recognition will be week from Thursday, Lord. And we do give thanks to you. But we're getting the jump on it. We're giving thanks to you right now. Lord, guide us in direction you would have our city to go. and and uh [snorts] bless our uh residents and our definitely our entrepreneurs and uh applicants. We bless them all in city hall. Amen. Amen. Uh Carrie,

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Come on. Now we get to get your chair. Let's go. Come on. You can have all the chair next time. Get your own chair, your own hammer. We'll get you everything. [snorts] Uh any uh deletions or additions? There's none. Okay. Presentations. We have no presentations. Okay. I have no conflicts of interest. Anyone else? I have none. I have none. I have none.

Okay. Public communications. This says a time and place for members of the public to comment comment on any matter within the jurisdiction of the planning commission. Members of the public wishing to address planning commission uh push star 9 on their telephones and that'll raise their hands and the secretary will take them in order pushing star six. Uh we ask and these again these are non-aggenda non-aggenda items. Uh we ask no swearing, cussing, spitting gum at us, things like that. And we will open that up at uh public hearing at 3:32. Nothing online. Nothing in the audience. Very good. We will close it at 3:32. Uh anything for the consent calendar?

We have nothing. Okay. Moving on to item G, public hearing. Uh G1. Um item one is a tenative trackm 2075757 will be presented by planner Espinosa.

Is the mic on?

Uh yes. Okay. Good afternoon honorable chair and members of the planning commission. This afternoon is a proposal to divide a 20 to divide three lots totaling 23.88 acres into 98 single family residential lots with seven lettered lots within the single family residential zone RS5 in the city of Adilanto. No development is proposed as of this project. Before you is the the subject site is located south of Villa Villa and west of Raccoon within the res within the single family residential zone RS5 in the city of Atlanta. This um before you is a location of a of the current location of the where the track map will be located. All right. Before you is the proposed tenative track map showing the location and layout of the proposed tract. The tract is approximately a little under 24 acres for 90 98 single family lots. Uh the average size of the lots are 6,600 square feet. The axis is off of uh is off of Villa and Raccoon and Koala. There's also seven lettered lots located for retention basins here, here, here, and here.

Say seven. There's seven letter lots. Four of these are retention basins located here, here, here, and here. And the other letter lots will be located here.

Oh, I see. Okay. here and here. Uh subject is oh at this time there's no development proposed for this site is just for the tenative trackmap to subdivide it into 98 lots. The project is exempt from SQA under under section 15183 of the environmental equality act because the subject site meets its zoning designation and due to the housing crisis of 2019 um uh the city of Atlanta would like to improve its h its regional housing needs. uh it got extended in it got extended through SB8 all the way through 2020 to 2030. So tonight's recommendation is to adopt resolution 2519 and approve tenative trackmap 20757 based on findings and subject to conditions of approval. Uh the the applicant Bo Cooper is in the audience and is and is available to answer any questions. I have nothing for you.

Okay. I have nothing for you at this time. Come on up, Bo. Good evening. Afternoon. Afternoon. Yeah. One one of the two. Yeah. What happened here? I'm used to I'm used to evening. This 3:30 is okay. Is that okay with you? That's okay. I don't mind it. Nice to eat dinner at dinner time. Huh? I I can go home and eat dinner at dinner time. That's fine. Yeah. Dog might bite you and the kids don't recognize you, but we're okay. you know, okay. That's [laughter] right.

Hey, uh, couple quick questions. Just my obser observation. I know you can change anything at any time, but I see you you have devoted a lot of time, a lot of area for those basins and stuff, and I had looked at the one that would have been on the picture on the left up there. Uh [clears throat] could we, you know, might think about and like I said, I I know you'll be back at the drawing table, but that basin on the left over there, uh uh if it was houses and you move the basin to be bigger over on the right because our water flows from what uh

south to north and then from west to east. So it might be better to enlarge that one basin or you know over on the on the right hand side uh and then maybe build homes on the left or something. Yeah, just an idea. It a lot of it is um is is flood protect protection as well. Some of that some of that water is coming from the west and rather than rather than directing it just gather it there at the west and relieve it. Okay. Yeah. rather than guide it all the way through the track, you kind of store it just because I see you devoting a lot of area to that basin, you know, even though it only rains once a year. I understand. Hey, if I could change the the water quality rules and the and the rules, I' I'd do it. But

and then u [clears throat] also I I look at Christian too. Uh as of right now, we just have one inlet and outlet uh off of uh Villa. Is is that probably correct? Access. Yeah, I don't uh we I actually did um when we were processing the plans through San Bernardino County Fire, they did come back and ask for an additional exhibit to show where we were getting access from. It is Villa to the east. It will we will also have to pave Koala down to Senica and take Senica over to the east as well. Okay. Um, that said, I am also working on a tract right now that I will be submitting improvement plans to the city for probably after the first of the year.

Okay. That's approved directly east directly east on Villa. Okay. Okay. Uh, that will take Villa over to Aster. Okay. That that track map is approved. Did you point out to the county or to the fire department how we only have one access to our high school by any chance? you know, because I'd love to see somebody Yeah. I'd love to see somebody pave raccoon to the industrial center because that'd be beautiful fire access. It would also be a relief for the uh uh north side residents to be able to get their kids, you know, get home, you know, and it's sad that the high school one inlet, one outlet, and that that pavement's already cracking with six inch cracks. So, yeah.

Well, it looks good to me. You've been with us a long time. So, [snorts] anybody have any questions for the man? I have I do have a question.

So even with the advancement of technology um to create even a tenative um track map may not require as much um work as it did before but it doesn't go without requiring work. And so considering um what was um the energy and the the requirement of time that was given to construct this tenative map um being that there is no at this time proposed [snorts] development um I'm curious to know if there are perspectives um and kind of just where this idea came from considering it's going to be quite impactful and it's definitely going to help us to um get closer to our arena requirement. Yeah. So, it's something I'm definitely welcoming, but I'm just curious to know if there's no proposed development, then where

this area, I'll say this area out of of Adelanto with the RS5 zone is is definitely the desired area um and the desired lot size by builders. I'll say um currently uh currently the market's [snorts] pretty slow. That has a few factors. Some of it is is just still interest rates and everything else. I think there's a lot of people waiting for those to come down even a little more. Um and then um obviously I don't have to tell you guys the the Joshua tree and a lot of the SEO stuff that's going on. It is [snorts] it is starting I I can I can see the light at the end of the tunnel but getting those getting those ITPS for the Joshua Tree has been excruciatingly difficult.

Now the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train is it? because I don't that train's stuck up north somewhere. [laughter] Yeah.

Yeah. Um but [clears throat] but I I do I do see a light at the end of the tunnel. There is um I think some some direction uh CDFW is um starting to you know process these these these ITPS um under the direction that that there that there currently is. I think there's still some questions to be answered about about the the ITPS. There's a lot of other um a lot of other squa challenges that are coming up. You know, we have a lot of, you know, the burrowing owl is now endangered. The crotch bumblebee is now a candidates. It's it's the list is on and on and on and on. Um but [snorts] those two things combined, I think, is the cause for kind of the slowdown. But it's not uh there's not a there isn't there isn't uh the market's not not dead. There are there are builders still up here that would build tomorrow if they had their ITPS in their hand and they had they had things ready to go. It's just taking that much longer. So far what you've what you see being built in Victorville and some of those other places are projects that were already graded and abandoned, you know. 10, 15 years ago,

right? They have no Joshua Tree issues. They have none of that. Builders can pick those lots lots [clears throat] back up. Uh reprocess the plans, get their approvals refreshed and and keep going. These projects that you're taking still vacant land and and moving forward with. You still see the entitlements happening like like this to get everything in place because it's it's taking it's taking so long to do. Um, and builders quite frankly aren't coming in and buying these projects until you have your ITP and some of these permits in hand. Once you have them, then they'll come in and and start building. And that's that's just how it's going to be for a while. So, it is [clears throat] it takes a while, but um

Well, either way, you're paving forward at this point, too, with this approval. So,

Right. Right. Right. Right. And then that whole permitting process is is, you know, right now is quite frankly what including this the entitlement phase, getting the permits and everything. I mean, it's it's taken a year and a half to [snorts] to to to some cases. Um, it's it's it's a long time. It's it's taken a long time, but [snorts] uh that's a long-winded answer. I'm sorry, but [laughter] it it gives [clears throat] clarity. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Well, if uh nobody else has anything, I'll uh relieve. I do need to talk to you before you leave, but we'll be done here shortly if you don't mind. Good. Thanks, Bo. Thank you.

Uh with that, I'll close p open public comment at uh 3:44.

Going once, going twice. Sold. Okay, I'll bring it back uh to the commission. Anything else? Okay, I'll make a motion a resolution of the planning commission of the city of Atlanta, Sanernardino County, California, adopting [snorts] the categoral categoral exempt and making findings and approving tenative trap map 20757 to subdivide 23.88 88 acre site into 98 single family resident lots on a site [snorts] located south of Villa Street and west of Raccoon Road within the single family residential R55 or excuse me RS5 zoning district in the city of Atlanta County Sanino assessor parcel number uh 3132-041-01 uh 03 and 04. Do I have a second?

I second for discussion really quickly. I do second it. Okay. Did Did you need to discuss something? Just quick clarification. So, Secretary Allen, I do have one question for you. So, as it as it pertains to um I'm not exactly sure where we are in the process for um the vacant land taxing. What happens when there is an open application or approved lot? How is that then determined? Because if they are currently in the process of developing then would there be an exemption from any sort of vacancy taxes? Good question. I have to run that by city clerk for clarification. But yeah, we can we can talk after. Okay. Thank you. Okay. And I have a second already. Mr. Johnson. All in favor? I I

CILA. Terry. I Oh, no. Not Terry. I'm sorry. Uh Paul, pardon. He left. He left us the nerve. [laughter] Okay. 4 Z. Very good. Uh, anything on parks and wreck?

Parks and Rex. Um, nothing on parks and wreck, but city hall will be closed. Um, in observance of Thanksgiving holiday. Um, on next Wednesday and Thursday, the 26th and the 27th, the city hall will be closed. I hope you guys all have a blessed Thanksgiving. And also um the city hall will have its Christmas tree lighting ceremony Thursday, December 4th here at city hall from 5:00 to 7:00. And also our 19th annual Christmas par Christmas parade will be December 13th. That's on a Saturday at 10:00 and it's back at Cynica. So you guys want to be a part of the parade, um I'll go ahead and you know get planning commissioners rolling so that you guys can be a part of the Christmas parade. So and that's all I have. Thank you.

King True. is back on. [laughter] Starts at 10:00. Yes, Jerry. It starts at 11 for you. Okay. Okay. Uh, any comments? Uh, Miss Miss Naika. No, that's all I have. Okay, good. Okay. I have none, Terry. Nope. I have none. I have none. Okay, then I'll look for somebody to make a motion to adjurnn. I make a motion that we adjourn. I'll second it. All in favor? I Very good. So, um Paul was not on.

All right. So, you guys want you guys want to be a part of the prison parade, right?