Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Planning Commission regular meeting. We appreciate your interest and we encourage public participation in our meeting. Your comments are important to our decision-making process. Please note that there will be opportunities during the meeting for you to address the commission members. The first opportunity will come if there's a public hearing on the agenda when the chairman declares the hearing open for comment. The second opportunity to address the commission will come near the end of the agenda when chairman inquires if anyone wishes to address members of the commission. Anyone addressing the commission will approach the podium, give your first and last name and your complete physical address. Comments must be limited to three minutes. Uh could we have the roll call, please? Mr. Austin, present. Mr. Johnson, present. Mr. Thompson,

present. Mr. Mr. Pennington, Mr. Sprouls, present, Mr. Wilson, present, and Mr. Schuman. Uh, first I've had a request to um uh amend the agenda tonight and move item two to the end. Um, do we have to vote on that or is it just a If I could get a motion in a second, then just vote. Yeah. So, moved. Yeah, I'll second. Okay. Uh, all those in favor here by saying I. I I All those opposed.

Okay. All right. Oops. Thank you. Um uh approval of minutes from the April 27th, 2026 regular meeting. Um I hope everyone's had a chance to review those. Any comments, changes, edits? If not, do we have a motion to approve? I'll make a motion to approve as presented. I'll second. Okay, Mr. Austin abstain as not being present at that meeting. Okay, Mr. Johnson. Hi, Mr. Thompson. Hi, Mr. Pennington. Mr. Scrolls. Hi, Mr. Wilson.

Hi. Not here. All right. Next item. Public comments for items not on the agenda. Is anyone signed up for to speak tonight? Don't see anybody. No.

All right. Thank you. Move on to item E, certificate of appropriateness. Uh, Valvalene, the applicant. Uh, MS Development, the owner, and Vance Graphics LLC representative. Uh, they're looking for a certificate of appropriateness for non-elilluminated freestanding signage. Non-illuminated wall signage and internally illuminated wall signage located at 439 Porterfield Highway, Avenue, Virginia 24210. And it is parcel 104A- A-34. And do we have a staff report? Valvaline applicant MS development owner advanced graphics LLC representative have requested approval of a certificate of appropriateness for the following ECCOA eligible items. Remove existing freestanding pylon signage panels. Install two 10 foot one and eight 1/8 inch by six foot 38 inch 60 square feet single-sided non-illuminated vinyl freestanding signage to cover the existing painted black steel frame steel freestanding pylon sign cabinet according to FR1 as shown in the rendering provided. You can see on the image there where it's the existing is painted and then that's their proposed. Paint the existing painted black steel pylon and steel sign cabinet red according to FR1 as shown in the rendering provided. Remove the existing non-illuminated wall signage panels. Uh right now they have a temporary sign up. They did already remove the uh previous existing sign. They will install um one 5 foot one and 5/8 inch by 3 foot 10 and 1/2 inch 19.90 square ft single-sided internally illuminated uh two and 7/8 inch thick aluminum cabinet with 3/4 inch wide acrylic channel letters centered above window immediately left of primary east entrance according to

WS1 as shown in the rendering provided. And then they will also install a 1 foot 4 inch by two foot 2 inch which is 2.89 square feet each total 5.78 square feet single side non-illuminated 0080 aluminum with red dark blue and light blue applied vinyl graphics mounted onto eastern and western walls with no visible fasteners according to PN1 and PN2 as shown in the rendering provided. Those are the signs um at the beginning where it says please wait and then on the the back side exit only so no one comes in that wrong way. The business is located at 439 Porterfield Highway parcel 104A- A-34. The property is located within the B2. Adjoining properties are zone highdensity residential R3 to the north and southwest. Adjoining properties to the northwest, east and south are zoned general business district B2. The subject property contains 4.44 acres and is legally described as Ann and Moody Wingo um acre 4.438 tax map number 104A- A-34. The existing building was constructed circa 2004 and is previously occupied by fast change lube and oil and then by oil changers. The building is now occupied by Valvaline. Access to the site will continue to be Wolf Creek Trail. Um the representative should be available if you have any questions for them.

All right. Thank you. Um does the applicant want to say anything? Okay. All right. So let's move to discussion. Any comments, questions, thoughts? Just for clarification, the new sign, is it the same size as the existing one? Can you go back to the freestanding sign? I mean sign. No. Okay. Yeah. Sir, could you come up here? No, you're good. And then just state your name and mailing address.

Ryan Vance, 403 Drews Lane, Cedar Bluff, Virginia. Um, on this one, I think it has it listed as non- illuminated. Um that it that cabinet did used to have lighting in it and they're talking about replacing that so it could actually end up illuminated assuming they haven't had us check everything that there actually is power out to it and all that but that wasn't listed in the plans. It was listed as non- illuminated. So I just wanted to mention that to you guys.

So something you could do in your motion is just to say either non-eluminated or illuminated at the as the applicant sees fit just so you give them the option so they don't have to come back then for that. And we've got a lot of little signs here that are part of this request. I mean, um I mean, do we have any potential issues with accumulative signage being more than, you know, what's allowed in the ordinance? The minor signs um are typically allowed without permit except in this instance it since it has the Valvolene logo it is required um to be listed um but they're just the on-site directional signs. There was an existing sign there. So it's sort of replacing that um as like a way signage so for safety issues on those two.

Um did that answer your question? the total square footage, okay, of the building with proposed signage signage fits within the guidelines. Yes, that's correct. Because Okay. The the wall sign we count total

um and it was about the same size as the existing. And then the the freestanding sign is just it's the same size. It's just replacing the existing sign cabinet. So the the total square footage is the 19.90 plus uh 2.89 on the front side and then on the back side just 2.89 for the minor sign and the entire building width even though it has the base count the entire length of the building. Okay. make a motion or

Yeah, I'll make a motion that we approve the request as presented with the stipulation that we allow for either illuminated or non-illuminated signage on the main pedestal sign. I'll second that. All right. Any discussion, questions? No. Okay. Okay. Roll call, please. Mr. Austin, I. Mr. Johnson, I. Mr. Thompson. Hi. Mr. Sprouls. Hi. And Mr. Wilson. Hi.

All right. We're going to jump to item three on the original agenda. Certificate of appropriateness. Miranda Hooks. Applicant owner. Uh, certificate appropri changes in signage located at 121 Russell Road, Abington, Virginia. 24210. That's parcel 011-1-77. Um, staff report, please. Miranda Hu, applicant has requested approval of certificate of appropriateness for the following ECCOA eligible items. Replace one door on the eastern primary elevation with a 3-foot by seven foot full glass dark bronze metal door. Replace one door on the western rear elevation with a 3ftx 7 ft full glass dark bronze metal door. Replace one unused door in the rear of the building on the western elevation with a 3-foot by seven foot glass window with dark bronze metal around the edges to match the door and new window. Replace an existing non-operational window in the rear of the building on the western elevation with one operational window with metal flashing around the edges. And there's a faint red line in the picture there, but you can see where the door will be replaced on the right and the window to the left. Reface the existing freestanding sign by removing the existing white vinyl lettering on the blue background and adding new 93.5 in x 22.375 in white vinyl graphics with applied white lettering onto existing blue background of existing aluminum freestanding sign located in the eastern corner of the property. approximately 12 ft from Ryway. Replace the shingles on top of the freestanding sign structure with metal roofing material in copper color to

match the existing metal roofing over the two bay windows on the eastern primary elevation. The design review guidelines indicate that the exterior alterations for roof material shall be standing seam metal ashvalt single or rubber membrane parapit for flat roof forms. The existing metal roofing material over the bay window is not standing seam metal. The existing shingle material over the main entrance is ashvault singles. The existing building trim is a metallic copper color. Facade colors should be low reflectance white, earth tone, muted, subtle, or neutral colors or slightly brighter for building trim. The planning commission should determine which material color is appropriate to replace existing ashvalt singles over the existing freestanding sign and if the existing copper trim over the bay window should be replaced with the same. So they're asking to take the copper that is on the bay wind windows and replicate that on the existing shingle sign. Um again the design review guidelines dis discuss the facade colors. So low reflective white earth tone muted subtle neutral and slightly brighter. So it's your re recommendation and decision if that's appropriate. And the applicant should be here if you have any questions. Any questions for me? Does the applicant have any you want to say anything?

My name is Miranda Hooks. My address is 26669 New Banks Road, Abington, Virginia 2410. Um, so on this that metal roofing was already there, but the shingles on the sign were kind of deteriorating. So, the question was like, could I replace it? And I was thinking of replacing it with something like this, but I wasn't aware of like all of the guidelines. So, if it's too complicated, I'm happy to leave it as is. So, those shingles are actually wood. They're shakes. Yeah. What's your preference to go with what's in your hand or

Well, I thought it would make it look, you know, kind of similar to the metal that was already over the bay windows. I will I will say with that though, seeing announce I didn't see it yet, that's our type. Okay. So, that type of metal So, there's different types of metal roofing. So there was standing seam, which this sort of has a little bit of a seam here, so it's sort of like that. Then there's 5V. It's a different profile. That's our type. It's really not allowed in any of the districts. Okay. But um if you wanted to like asphalt shingles would be appropriate there if you wanted to change it. Okay. Uh from what you have here already

or if she wanted to go with metal roofing, it's just changing the style, okay, of that to where that has so many ridges in it. Um, a standing seam does not. Okay. Um, the standing seam actually is more similar to what you've got over the bay window. Okay. Um, like Gabe said, it's got it looks like almost Yeah. So, that's semi-standing. Yeah. So, it's got semi-standing. It looks like they used panels essentially and then they formed them a certain way to and and they and you crimp it and you crimp the seams. That's what they did originally. Oh, okay. Um, for us in this area, it's hard to find it in this area for contractors to do it just because we don't have as many buildings that need it like in the old historic district,

right? Um, so like here they do I think it's interlocking where the seams kind of interlock and you have a seam then it's flat like there's no ribs striations or whatever and then there's another seam and that's where it interlocks again. It kind of repeats that process. Okay. Um, so you could either do that one or that's like the staying seam that we that the boards have allowed. Okay. Uh or ashvalt shingles are perfectly appropriate for this one, too. Or the ones that would match over the entryway. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Or if you just want to keep it wood shakes, that's perfectly fine. Okay. Too. It's kind of whatever, as Mr. Johnson said, whatever your preference is in terms of that.

Okay. Um I don't know. I just haven't thought of that in too in depth. Do y'all have any questions about doors or the window or if you didn't see me flipping through? That's the door. Anything? Yes, that is a picture of what they're replacing it with. It wouldn't be as wide. Of course, it's going to fit into the same

doorway that is existing. And then that is a picture, a similar picture of the what the window would look like in the back of the building because at some point somebody had just went there and like just cut out the cinder block and put in like a makeshift window with one pane on the outside of the cinder block and then like one pane on the inside where the cinder block is deep and like inside of that window is like condensating and kind of mildew. So I like just putting like eliminating that as and then I want I thought it would be better if it matched the doors stuff.

All right. Thank you. Um any further discussion? the motion. I think like Gabe stated, it's really the preference of the applicant. Um I think personally um either the asphalt shingles or a standing seam

would be an improvement over the cedar shakes. The cedar sakes do show some wear, but you know that's uh your call. As far as what's proposed, um I don't have any concerns with the doors. Um if you do go with a metal roof, make sure that it is a standing seam. Um that is uh acceptable within the historic district and the staff can guide you on that. Um and as far as the shingles, um suggestion would be just to make those um identical, you know, over the all three areas just to match. Is that a convoluted motion?

Uh I don't think gave all that down. No, I think I got it. I got it. I'll second the convoluted motion. All right. Any further discussion? If not, can we have roll call, please? Mr. Austin, hi. Mr. Johnson, hi. Mr. Thompson, hi. Mr. Sprouls. Hi. And Mr. Wilson. Hi. And if you do decide to go with the standing seam roof, just send us a picture of it and we can say yes, that's good or no. Or if you just go with asphalt shingles, then there's no need to really check in with us. Just make sure they color matches what you have and and you're and you'd be good to go. Yeah.

All right. Item four on the original agenda, certificate of appropriateness. Freda Deusk, applicant/owner. Certificate of appropriateness for exterior updates located at 270 and 272 West Main Street, Aington, Virginia, 24210. That's parcel 011-8-3. Um staff report, please. Rita Deusk owner applicant has requested approval of a certificate of appropriateness for exterior changes to the primary north elevation of the building located at 270 and 272 West Main Street, parcel 011-8-3. Property is within the B3 central business district. The subject property contains approximately 0.14 acres and is legally described as part two and all three Hurt Zephr Theater tax map number 011-8-3. Generally, the subject properties located at 270 and 272 West Main Street. According to Places and Time volume two written by Nancy C. King, Charles Fert, and FUFW Wert acquired the property in 1906. A dwelling was located on the property upon Charles Fert's acquisition, but was damaged in the 1914 fire and subsequently repaired in 1935. The dwelling was removed and the lot was subdivided. Lincoln Theaters Corporation of Marian, Virginia acquired three lots in 1939 and built the Zephr Theater. The Zephr Theater was Abington's first modern movie theater. Although moving pictures had been shown for some years at the opera house, now known as the Barter Theater, the Dixie Theater, and SARS West End Moving Pictures Theater. In the 1940s, a fire damaged the interior and exterior of the building, but was repaired and open to the public again. The Zephr Theater closed circa 1963, and the property was purchased by D BF

Debusk in 1967. The theater building was occupied by Debusk Furniture Store. Access to the site will continue to be West Main Street joining properties on all side or zoned central business district three. The applicant proposes to have a mural painted on the second story northern primary elevation. The proposed mural is intended to resemble a theater marquee below three upper story windows and a decorative cornice above one large casement window as seen in the image provided. The mural will use poly tab, also known as parachute cloth or mural cloth. The artist will measure the parameters of the mural and then prepare the poly tab material entirely offsite. The poly tab fabric will be primed with gesso prior to the mural being painted with exterior grade house paint, nova paint or golden mural paint. Similar to the process of applying wallpaper, the mural is then installed on site with nova gel and a brush to create a permanent bond. Squeegee will be used to help flatten the poly tab mural onto the wall. The poly tab method will retain approximately 50% of the building's natural patina. A clear coat will be applied to the mural to protect the surface from weather. The installation process will take one to two days and will be completed by the artist and their assistant. Uh there's an example um in the presentation and in your packet of how the material will look coming through. Um, so obviously that's not going to be what the mural looks like, but you can see how some of the building is still visible there. And the poly tab material can also be removed very gently in the future should that be needed. And the applicant's daughter is present if you have any questions for them. So essentially, and just to add on to Amber's thing, trying to they're trying to bring back some of the original detail that was there when the when it was a theater, hence with the marquee. Uh this building's gone under, I think,

at least three or four exterior renovations. So whatever was there has been totally been gone for at least 50 years, if not more during the times. Uh so again, it's just trying to bring some back to that building there. Um and again the applicant starters here if you have any questions or or if you have any questions for us uh feel free to ask. The the cloth panels would be done offsite and then they would be installed uh once they're all done just to help with installation.

Any questions, comments, thoughts? I assume that this is just kind of a rough pencil rendering of what they the outline of your old like correct. So, and then it'll be filled in with the typical colors that you would see with these uh which is more earth and tones and everything. The marquee would be a little bit brighter because that's what it was. It was brighter. Uh but this is just to show you the architectural features that would be shown on that on those kind of panels. That's really what I was curious about is like if they had an idea of kind of what colors they were going to use for the the marquee framework etc.

I think based on the marquee and and you can correct me if I'm wrong Mr. uh Mr. Cochran that it the marquee was black red and a little bit of gold and everything. Okay. U the lettering was black is kind of like you see on those old kind of ones where they have to go up and change out the letters. Same thing with that. This would be kind of Yeah. Like in here, this is where the text was on that marquee. So it would be kind of a white how like you see at the border when they have those two words where they put stuff up. Same thing.

And then these would have those kind of Italian8 window hoods that would be more of a reddish or some sort of dark color that you usually see with that. Uh but again, the point is to make to still have the building, you know, have some of that patina still there, allow it to be reversible, and then but still bring some life uh to the facades is what they're looking to to do there. Uh because like I said, this one's gone through four different exterior renovations before in the past. So, but this is more along the lines in terms of our consideration of paint versus signage. Is that correct? Yeah, it's just the it's just the design of it. You're not looking at signs for it. No, no, no. It's just

Yeah, correct. You are correct. I'm just trying to get Yeah. Essentially, you're just looking to see does this design look good to you guys because in terms of the it won't be more signs or anything. It's just bringing back some of those extra elements that were there, but in a non-invasive way. But the area you were describing a moment ago, will there actually be some writing on that?

Uh, I think we've gone back and forth about maybe putting some sort of play or something that was at the theater before. Now it won't be a it won't be any signage for the Zephyr because the Zephr is now an antique shop. It's not a theater anymore. So, it won't be signage for him. So, it'll be kind of a call back to when it was that. Um, so it wouldn't be technically considered signage for the build for that business anymore. Is it difficult for us and this is in the form of the question. Is it difficult for us to approve or disapprove that without knowing exactly what the finished product looks like? Uh I think and Mr. Cochran, do you know the colors that we're going to be using or

No, the idea was to make it look what it looked like back then. So essentially I can tell you with this like the hoods usually that I call them hoods but the window hoods they're more of a darker red in a sense usually they're more of a darker kind of color. Same thing with these. These are more either a darker or they sometimes go with a lighter like a light blue or a yellow something like that. But they are they're always kind of an earthn tone. It's never like a bright pink that you'll see. But the intent is more of an authentic replication. Yes. what you would have experienced. Yes. With the original. Yep. Like architectural. Yep. Correct.

But again, is anything I don't have any concerns with the rendering itself. Agree. Agree. Right. The colors though, you know, um would be nice to see some or have certain parameters. You keep saying earth tones and what have you. And if memory serves correct, I think I've seen some old photos that almost look like burgundy. Yeah. You know, was used. Yeah. And that's why I'm saying like with these we see. Um but um you don't want lime green. No. You know, I think I'm sorry. looked like you were there back then

to give it. Do we have any old photos or anything of that nature? They're all black and white, but we all know that they're a darker color. They're not nothing's bright on that building whatsoever. Yeah, I call them rich colors, whether it was a hunter green, you know, or the burgundy's blues. There was black, a darker red, you had some gold here, but that was mostly with the marquee. These would be more burgundy colors. Yeah. And then these would be more of Mr. Busk, what do you what do you envision? Oh, Mrs. Could you come up to the Oh, no, you're good. Not a problem.

She's going to get mad at me later. So that No, I won't. My name's Christy Deus Barrett. I live at 233 Morningside. drive Abington in Virginia. U what what we had discussed earlier was like the old Tommy theater and the Zephr theater and then doing the name of a movie that was playing then and I was thinking like Gabe said like black with burgundy something dark where it's like history you know old timey right

and I think it'd be pretty cool. My mother was okay with it and I think my dad would have loved this idea to keep his legacy kind of going. So, we were hoping you all would do that. Will the remaining brick also be painted as a color or would they be left natural as they are now? No, the cloth would be going over all that, but you'll still see the patina from the brick. So, again, the point of the cloth that was picked was because it's reversible. So if anything wanted to happen in the future, it wouldn't damage the brick, but you'd still get that patina from the brick from this uh finish. It could be removed. Yeah. Somebody wanted something different.

Yeah. But we still wanted to uh but the applicant, they still want to have that that brick look there and this material allows that to come through. I think it would add a little pizzazz down Main Street to be honest, too. if you've drove through Damascus and saw some of theirs. No, I mean I like the idea. It's just trying to get an idea relative to the colors. Yeah. You know, to where um you know I the blacks, everything that you just mentioned, the golds, the burgundies, things of that nature. Um I wouldn't want a bright color up there myself.

When when will you have the final design as to what it would look like? Um, well, they're working with uh the lady that's going to do it. Uhu. So, I'm not sure. Did she the final design?

She was working. So, I haven't got it back then. and and I wholeheartedly agree with that. I think it'll be beautiful and or could be. I just like to see the final product as to what we're approving before we approve it. There certain colors you don't want. Yeah.

If certain colors you don't want like the lime greens or anything, you can put that in the orange. We would want that. Well, if you build I prefer tech colors myself. There's your doesn't look like a 60 psychedelic trip or something. Is there is there any way that the commission could see a draft glad without holding any of the progress up? Oh, I think there's I think there's a way we could do that. Um,

yeah, I think there's some way we could do that without, you know, you give them approval for this and then we can have the paint colors and then if somebody says, "Hey, I have an issue." You know, it won't be a meeting. We can do separate emails and everything, then we can Well, I mean, the design itself, I think everybody's a fra favor of it's just subject to improve the concept. Yes, sir. Concept's great. Yeah. I got teeyed when they told me about it because it just means a lot to me for my dad. Look, I worked there with Stury Furniture Company with Charlie. Did you? Yes. So, Charlie Sweet. Yeah, it's a good building.

Well, it took my dad a year working day and night to turn it from the theater into the best furniture and appliance. So, This the closest I have is a sketch. Sorry, it's on my phone, but is the one that it would not be as sloppy as far as an appearance, but something that would look like not with the people and stuff, just in general concept. What movie are you going to use, Chris? I don't know. Somebody was telling me today some one of John Wayne's movies. Oh, yeah. I can't remember the name of it. I'd have to find it out. Oh yeah, that's very tasty.

See, there are photos of people used to come from counties all around to Abington for that. Yeah, something probably predates. It will definitely look more oldfashioned, old timey than Yeah. modernized. Wow. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion that we approve the concept contingent upon us being provided with final uh design and color scheme that's going to be used and that we could respond by if anyone objected to it by email to staff. Yeah. And then we could set up another meeting.

Yeah. All right. Do we have a second? I'll second. All right. Any further discussion? If not, could we have a roll call, please? Excuse me. Mr. Austin. Hi, Mr. Johnson. Hi, Mr. Thompson. Hi, Mr. Sprouls. Hi. And Mr. Wilson. Hi. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to say I know he told me it would probably if everything goes okay be done by the end of June. Okay. Which I would be very hopeful for so that could see it because she's not. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.

All right. Uh, one more. Yeah. Yeah. Jump back to item number two from the original agenda. Certificate of appropriateness. Chris Brown, applicant/owner. Certificate of appropriateness for exterior door replacements. Uh, located at 432 East Main Street, Aington, Virginia, 24210. That's for parcel 018-15-26. Staff report, please.

Chris Brown, applicant and CNN Brown Properties LLC owner, requested approval of the following ECCOA eligible items. Remove all ex existing exterior residential grade doors. Replace three single doors on the north primary elevation with commercial grade doors that are 40 in wide by 80 in tall. All fulltempered glass with painted white frames. You can see the three there that are highlighted in red. Those are the three doors to be replaced. Replace one nonoperational door on primary north elevation with commercial grade fulltempered glass with painted white frame window to match new commercial grade doors. That's highlighted there in yellow. Replace three double doors on the second story northeast elevation with 76inch wide by 82inch tall fullered glass commercial grade doors with painted white frames to match existing. It's the three on the very top. Replace one double door on the first story northeast elevation with 100 in wide by 95 in tallteered glass commercial grade doors with white frames to match existing doors. That is the door there in the middle. and replace one one single door on the first story northeast elevation with commercial grade fulltempered glass doors that are 40 in wide by 80 in tall with white frame to match existing doors. That's the um if you go back to that last image, the one on the right of the big door, I didn't change the highlight color, but it's right there next to the car. The subject property contains approximately.33 acres and is legally described as East Main Street acreage 331 dwelling in facto tax map number 014-1-15. Subject properties located at 432 East Main Street. The building was

constructed circa 1934. The property contains a multi-use building known as Combo Square holding multiple businesses including Chiropractic First, Miracle Ear, Gallagher Law Firm, Anderson Surveyors, and Pro One Physical Therapy. Access to the site will continue to be East Main Street and adjoining properties are zone general business district B2 on all sides. The applicant uh could not be here today uh but is available by phone if you have any questions for them. They've submitted all applicable building permits. uh the building officials ready to go with the door replacements after planning commission approval. All right. Thank you. Um

questions or concerns. We're ready for a motion.

I would make a motion that we approve the changes as submitted to the doorways. Have a second. Second. All right. Thank you. Any further discussion? If not, roll call, please. Mr. Austin, I. Mr. Johnson? Hi. Mr. Thompson. Hi. Mr. Sprouls. Hi. And Mr. Wilson. Hi. All right. Um, and then old business or matters that are not on the agenda.

Um, this was just asked I think Mr. Johnson asked Amber and then Mr. Thompson, you sent an email to me. because I'm getting old, I couldn't remember the last time and I know it was subject to parking restrictions, but also a variance um relative to the parking to where they could park around back. Mhm. Um

to our knowledge, they have striped those spaces from what it looked like. Uh I we are going to go out tomorrow just to make sure that it was I believe nine they were taking away from what I remember from the minutes. I'm just going to go and double check that and everything just to make sure nothing's expanded or anything in that sense because if they did then obviously the waiver doesn't cover more than the nine that was there. So we'll go out and we'll send an email up to to the board just to confirm or you know update you on those on those findings on those field findings. But yes, they did get approval and it's just allowed to be up for kind of these spring and summer months

and then take down in fall. Yeah. But other than that, that's I think that's all we had. Um, if you have any questions or on anything if not. All right. Uh, do we hear a motion to adjourn? So move. We have a second. I'll second. All in favor say I. I. Unanimous.