Remarks by Rachel Freeman
284 remarks on the record, newest first · Page 8 of 12
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“Yeah, so I was seeing that. You kind of explained that conditional uses can be kind of messy, right? And I know that some of the training that we've gotten as elected officials is to try to limit conditional uses because it does make it a tricky situation. Basically, if they meet those conditions, even if you don't it might not be what's there might be other some concerns the planning commission's hands are pretty much tied um to to have those things there yeah that's correct okay um yeah so i i appreciate i appreciate that and i was looking i think i asked him for So after I read this, I…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 2:54:16
“Yeah. Well, and I kind of agree with one of the planning commissioners who feels strongly has some negative feelings against signs because I look and the kind of the stipulation is 25 feet is the height, right? And I can look at, there's like a Smith's marketplace over there that has a 25 foot. So I drove by on a Saturday night looking at the lighting and she's all stuff, 915. They're not lit up over at Smith's. It's 25 feet. Smith's actually isn't lit up. They just have the parking lot lights. And guess what? They're pretty... pretty full they're doing you know and so for the argument i was…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 2:55:51
“So I'm just, I don't, I, that's the one thing. I mean, I know we're talking on pylon signs. But I have a hard time, the fact that planning commission has to deal with these difficult situations. And it's almost like their hands are tied. If we put this in code. it's really difficult for them to say no. And we're going to have, it looks like Perry has some lots there where they're going to bring density. They're going to have some homes. So right now, we don't have as many along SR-92 as will potentially be there. So I'm concerned about that. I know that pylon signs are restricted in other…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 2:59:23
“And it looks like we kind of just have an overlay for that by I-15. Is that what I understand?”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:00:06
“okay i mean maybe another council member had some other opinions about like i was just kind of specific to sr92 because i remember the council meeting in november or the planning fishing in november and then there's june and there was july and they were all talking about signs for sr92 so i'm not sure i mean 2100 north will be a freeway um we'll probably have similar speed limits and some more visibility things as”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:10:16
“So I have a question. So if it's an exception, can they come to City Council and so Planning Commission does have to deal with that?”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:10:34
“I think it would be even more painful to come to yeah Well, I just think conditionally so they go to Planning Commission. Yeah, and then Planning Commission has to deal with the aches and pains of it and and You know we're supposed to Kind of set the code interpret the code do some land use decisions and we're accountable more I think I were more accountable to residents so to me it might Instead of having a conditional use, to me, it makes sense to have, if they want to make an exception, they can come and ask the council.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:16:36
“Well, I just have questions for the other council members, what they think about including, like, you know, 2100 North, like, I think it's on page 23-15 under pylon signs if they want to, you know, include 2100 North, Mountain View Corridor, or SRX 15.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“because maybe I'm not as jaded for the Planning Commission. I'm fine taking on that responsibility to deal with the exceptions because I have watched a few of the Planning Commissions. It seems like they've only had a few where it's been kind of a challenge in the last year or two.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:21:08
“And we are directly accountable. I'm just worried if residents are complaining. Yeah. We get the complaints, but we don't have the authority to do anything about that. And so then the residents might feel like we're not listening or they're cut out of the process. So that's just something. I'm a little worried about the target size. I'm not going to lie. And the residents that are going to be saying something to us, and we all said, well, we didn't do it, right? But what recourse? We don't have any mechanism going forward in the future, except with code changes right now, to do anything about…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:25:07
“I think we all agree that conditional uses are not a great, are a little bit, are complicating things. And that's the advice that we've also been given from, yeah, Utah League of Town and Cities and other things like that. Yeah, ULCT, UL Cities and Towns, yeah.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:27:07
“I don't know if you have a decision on that yet.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:27:35
“And can you put a date on it as the first? In August? So you in your motion you want to include the next council meeting which would be August 11th Okay, so it would be table to August 11th Do I have a second for that motion I'll second that So I have a second from councilmember Freeman any questions on the motion”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“Yeah, Mary's wondering if you could tell us again about the circumstances that led to this request.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:31:37
“Secure their build sites for the safety of the public especially next door to painter crossing into a maverick gas station So that's where this comes from So one of my questions was I I agree with a lot of this I don't know if I would put the requirements on all non-residential construction projects and I would think maybe if it's more than one story, just because if we're not requiring it for residential construction projects greater than 10 units, I just don't know if that would be burdensome for a smaller non-residential site. Like even when we had Fabian House come in or if it's like a…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“Any other questions for Kim? Let's see. The top of page 11-3, sorry, I'm going to scroll back here myself. It talks about, instead of saying the developer shall, see there's a little four, there's a developer shall post a 100% letter or a credit or warranty bond for the estimated cost. And then I just, I was looking at the top of page 11-5, and it talks again about that. Well, to continue on, it talks about subdivision and then including the posting of a bond for the estimated cost. So I don't know if we need to kind of make that top of there, 11-5, that little first paragraph, if we need to…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:39:35
“So that it's congruent with the. Yeah. That's only.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:39:55
“Yeah. um so i would if if you think that's okay cam i would yeah we could just so it's all consistent and then when i was looking at i was looking up a bunch of state code today about preliminary subdivisions by approval so section 11.100 and i don't think this is something i wouldn't say this needs to be included tonight but i just think it would be good to look at, because it talks about how after a preliminary subdivision plat has been approved, that the applicant can file for a final subdivision plat. But I think according, I can be wrong, but I would look at state code, that I think they…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“Yeah, the preliminary and the final. Yeah, I'm not sure. I know I was just looking up the fact that you know basically it's they want things to go faster and development to go faster so they just want to go through planning Commission or maybe an administrative decision so anyways and then I think we had was that conditional use we're looking at again which seems to possibly be problematic about flag lots and I was talking about conditional use approval subject to section 12.2 on for all flag lots to be honest I don't know where that was but so let's see which page you on I think it's for the…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:42:36
“Yeah, probably. I think it's at the bottom. OK. And I know that I've talked to you about it. Conditional uses just keep coming up. And we don't have in here section 12.210 to reference. And I didn't bring my code book and all that to look at. just seems like that can be a tricky situation so yeah sorry it's different chapter but it says that the chief building official is designated as land use authority on behalf of the City Council to approve and sign the final final plot So it's interesting because subdivisions, we can't be the final one, but with this one, the city council could. But…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“Anyways, but I think it does clarify some things, so thanks for... Thanks for that, and we have to always keep up with state code.”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“I do have a question for the concept plan. Sorry, there's one more. 11-2 it says exceptions to design requirements can be provided with a concept plan by the Planning Commission so is that and that's concept plans for”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“and but this does for excuse and forgive me if I don't have it right but this doesn't specify it's for subdivisions it's just concept plans in general yeah yeah you can file a concept for either side because we also reviews concept plans but mostly just for the what does it say right here PUDs, PRDs, planned communities, you know, things like that. Is that what I understand?”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
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“they've already invested does that make sense so anyway i don't know if it's possible to solve that problem but it is in practice really difficult i mean i saw we did it with mr train where i think he brought that concept right but then i think state code says that the preliminary then you have the preliminary plot and then you give the final plot and you can't actually really change stuff from the preliminary to the final too much it's just more detailed whereas the concept you can kind of have some shifting is my understanding”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026
- Play at 3:59:45
“I don't know. Well, and I wonder, how to enforce it? I don't know what legal would think. Do you do a letter of intent? some kind of contract, a MOU, like it doesn't have to be as, you know, not binding. But anyways, I'm not sure if where a development agreement is appropriate. I do wonder also on that second to last, so we're at G, if we get G there. It talks about ground floor units shall be designed to accommodate commercial occupancy without, I mean, we kind of say that in that first sentence. So G seemed like that was kind of the trickiest part for a planning commission when they were…”
City Council · Jul 28, 2026