Remarks by Pat Perno

67 remarks on the record, newest first · Page 3 of 3

  1. Play at 21:11
    “You're polling the commission on something we could vote on. That is a Sunshine violation.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  2. Play at 43:03
    “When did we decide this morning we decided to get rid of the Plenty of Animals shelter? As the finance review? Yes, sir, that was their recommendation. What's the total dollar amount of the savings? And wouldn't there be a transitionary time where it would still cost us money during this fiscal budget? We just let it go? Yes, sir.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  3. Play at 43:33
    “That is the estimate based on... Is that for lights?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  4. Play at 43:55
    “So we're not getting rid of the animal shelter, per se. It's still physically going to be there, but the county would run it?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  5. Play at 44:19
    “Yes, ma'am. Would they get jobs with the county? I mean, wouldn't we?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  6. Play at 50:13
    “We have trucks and we have hardware to go with the animal shelter, right?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  7. Play at 50:29
    “Is there any, I know this is short notice, we're making a, I feel like we're making a knee-jerk decision, but I mean, can we explore the option of a private partnership with like an Aliqua Animal Rescue, I just mentioned them because I know they're, you know, they're pretty prevalent in this area, or where it was a hybrid situation where they took over the shelter Bay County worked it with the vehicles. I think we owe that to explore before we made this decision.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  8. Play at 51:58
    “So would the facility be used if we turned it over? At the animal shelter. Sir, I don't feel like we've done anything over there. Would that facility be used to turn it over or would it just go to the county in another location?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  9. Play at 52:23
    “So right now, if we put in a 4.2, 35, right, millage, and we had a 75% CRA, a 25% reduction in CRA, and we kept the animal shelter, we would have $192,000 surplus in the budget, correct?”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  10. Play at 53:57
    “Does the sanitation rate increase have anything to do with this? No, sir. No. It's an enterprise bonus. It's enterprise.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  11. Play at 54:06
    “I know. I hope we do. You know, what we're looking at is better than what we've had, and it's a little bit more for the CRA than what the Finance Review Committee put in. And it keeps the animal shelter, but it doesn't have as much of a surplus. Yeah. So we're cutting it. But that means, my fellow commissioners, we all need to vote for this if that's what we want. That's what we're here for, to talk in the sunshine about this. You know, because I'd like to be confident that we walk away from here knowing more what our vote's going to be, not hedging the bets. It's going to be 3-2. We're going…”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  12. Play at 1:01:33
    “I am more than happy to say how I feel about the animal shelter, okay? Now, it's not the hill I want to die on, but I do want the employees there, I would like them to stay employed with the county. I would like to know that the county is going to take over the facility. I think we've got an opportunity and originally, if we'd have just stuck to the guns and let it go, we would have had this scenario in front of us with a better situation and a savings. And that's what I'm agreeable to. But we haven't heard back from the county on it since they walked away from negotiations. And I don't know…”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  13. Play at 1:03:59
    “Right. That's what I'm sitting here trying to play Texas Hold'em with you guys and know what your hands are and see that we've got to agree on either the millage or the cuts. and know what we're going to, you know, this is one thing we need to, you know, it's okay to say how we're going to vote or what we're agreeable to. It's a workshop. You know, you're saying you're not agreeable, but look what it's going to cost the city if you don't think that, you know, if you get myopic on this and, you know, there's a way out of it with the animal shelter. There's a way out of it. But for right now,…”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  14. Play at 1:09:14
    “I've already said it. I just said it. I started this stuff. I just said it.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  15. Play at 1:09:20
    “I just said it. That's what I just said. I said this. Look at this. This is what I said I would be for, and I need to hear from you guys. You're just recapitulating. Yes, sir. Now, I'm also for... Let that man negotiate with the county and see what we can save in the future and vote on moving the, if it makes sense and the county's agreeable, I'm okay with moving the animal shelter to county services and keeping the employees and saving the money. That'll be another fight, but for now, I want to see this. But I'll damn sure vote to do it if he brings it back and the county wants to negotiate…”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  16. Play at 1:17:26
    “What always happens is we'll sit here and say something and we'll bond up, but then we go out there and get everybody's feelings. So just what we're going to vote and we're going to put up the armor now and we're going to hear from the public.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

  17. Play at 1:19:28
    “Is that sanitation and stormwater next meeting? Yes, sir. Okay. And millage.”

    Commission · Sep 1, 2026

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