Remarks by Joe M. Summerlin, Jr.
157 remarks on the record, newest first · Page 3 of 7
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“And that was from what number? I can pull that. Sorry. I'm going to pull that presentation up.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“That's why it's so yeah My I guess my question is And I tried to ask it the other day before But I didn't formalize that my words wouldn't come out of my mouth correctly. Yes You still can't get my last name, correct I But part of me is, now, as far as giving raises and things of that nature and having people reach the next pay level, especially in the police department, and excuse me, but that's, you know, You place your lives in danger every single day. And so I believe that means something, also. And the thing that I was thinking about, though, going back to it, is parity. How much, how…”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Yeah, and I and I Goodness, I appreciate one thing, your philosophy approach to how the Shenandoah Police Department should not be reactive, but should be proactive. And I think to have individuals like that, you want them to be of the highest caliber in their So, no, I'm just, you know, I'm just, I guess it's mainly for me, it's how we're evaluating it. You know, I want to make sure that, and I've even expressed this to Sam about, you know, performance-based and certification-based. And, you know, we want the right people.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“And the question is, but, I know and understand the necessity for, well, and this goes to, you're picking, your guys go through a probation cycle, so you're able to observe people, you're able to watch them, and you have an understanding expectation. And the thing that you say, if you stay here, here's how we're going to take care of you and your family. Correct. And I appreciate that. And I'm not to... saying and trying to say anything I just people are you know you're just two dollars worth you're worth two dollars an hour more right yeah whatever that's that's not the thing I'm trying to…”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Well, I think what I'm saying in performance, and I'm not saying in how many tickets can you write. That's not. So that would be, yeah. That's a word jumble right there.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“And I guess that's part of it. You used the term PIP, and I have no clue what that means, but I'm sure it's a performance improvement. And so my thing is there are measurements that we're doing. We're not just saying, I'm bumping you up, period, regardless of how you, I felt you, And a lot of my saying this and bringing this up is for our citizens who are listening. They're not sitting in here and hearing about this. And there's a lot that we're getting here in Shenandoah because we made that adjustment. But I don't want to see... I see these... I don't want us to be almost representing we're…”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Yeah. And One of the points that I wanted to make is that I just want to get some warning signs, because we got out of alignment. We just went out of alignment with pay. And then all of a sudden, we have this type of large crevice that we had to cross and build a bridge. And it was a tax increase. And if it makes sense, it makes sense. But I just want to make, internally, we need to have guidelines established like, hey, this is the exact same thing that happened that took us to where we were. non-responsive, if we have to do a parity evaluation every three years or whatever. I mean, if it…”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“What happened? The nation definitely was an uncontrollable, unforeseen.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“The number you're asking for and the number you're just saying, at what stage in the parity plan?”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Wait a minute. If I understand what you're saying, I don't know. If we make an agreement, if we... set policy that the reserves are 90 or 120. The difference of that is not, how is that going to be applied to a one-time loan if that's”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Yeah, and I agree with you that extra money sitting over here is not a long term. Yeah.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“But if we can, if we change it and say that it's 120 or 90 days and whatever that difference is, that frees that up to be used how we set policy on it. Correct? Correct. OK. So if we wanted to use that, best practice or not, I come from a family of accountants.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Sorry. My phone was going off. So if we use that money to get us through, if we find something that can continue to feed this and take care of it ongoing for the future, but that buys us the time to get there without raising the taxes during this time. Is that what? Yes. Yes, exactly.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“There are so many what ifs in the world.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“What if, you know, press would actually tell the truth. Yeah.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Yeah. And thanks. No. And because I'm... It's... I think what it is, and it's not saying to... We want to... we're making decisions that are, it's a gamble.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“No, we're making a decision not to raise taxes and use this money to cover that until whatever you know can be put in place to support it on going past that yeah it's it's it's like saying we know somebody's moving in but they're not going to be here for a couple years you know but can we cover it between now and then without raising taxes i look at it as it's it's the cost of doing business when you're investing you're investing in your future right now and you have to take a little risk And that doesn't impact the reserves.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“That's the whole thing we're talking about.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“What was the percentage that wanted a pickup, additional pickups?”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Word, almost. Yes. No, I think we'll get that. Oh.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“As I remember being in that meeting, wasn't it more intuitive even, it would give you traffic flow, traffic congestion, points also. So any studies that we want to see as far as supporting data information on Grogan's Mill and Vision Park, all of these different areas, time of day. It was a very impressive data type of accessing software that they can do.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Yeah, because it even showed traffic flow. You pick it. It provides whatever you dial into it, whatever the information you're looking for. For the price, I was surprised at how much usable data within a reasonable time that you can get.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Well, this is not the traffic ones that the chief is putting in right now that they purchase. Those are...”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“Well, no, no, no. They're more than signs. They have a Doppler radar that reads and counts that vehicle going to the stop sign and away from the stop sign. It also tells you the size of the vehicle, if it's... you know FedEx or Someone else so it gives you some more intuitive the product the software that Joseph's referring to that we watched It's actually it's not a real-time Right now we can pull up the data right now and see the cars going right now. It's not it doesn't average you so That's one thing about it, but their data the pulling it up has advantages to it. I guess my only question…”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026
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“It displays the fee, the speed, the traffic flow. Yeah, we got it.”
City Council · Aug 5, 2026