Remarks by Joan Hartmann
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“Okay. And you mentioned the CSUs. I mean, are one strategy to keep people out of the POF if we can meet their needs there. How well are they working?”
“Yeah. Thank you for that. Final question. How many repeat people do we have? Do you track that as a success measure?”
“I mean, it a revolving door? Or are we really able to help people stabilize and stay stable over the long run?”
“I just have two points. The first is could you expand about the freedom to choose? This is the first time I'm learning about it. I, of course, know about Ready and other programs, but this one catches my imagination.”
“So about how many people are involved? How long has it been going? How will you evaluate its success?”
“But in a sense, then, it's people with lived experience who've been in that position, and now they're coming back to counsel people and say you really can make a change. Is that a correct understanding?”
“No. Just to understand who the people are who are working with the jail residents, and what their motivation is, and why the jail residents might be responsive to them.”
“And so the courses are a whole range of things?”
“So is it more GED kinds of things, or is it more life skill?”
“Okay. Thank you. So my next is it's really just a comment. The CCP, I've I've never served on it. I've only attended one meeting.”
“But it really is structurally able to bring together our criminal justice partners, put money on the table, and and and and then evaluate the programs in a way that we really rely on. And what what you did with jail study was really appreciated. What what you're determining about co response and how to be more productive. We're we're getting information from you that is extremely valuable to us. And it's not easy for departments with different missions to really come together and find what's common and even to be responsive to the direction that the board and the county wants to go.”
“So I just think well done and thank you.”
“And I just wanna add, I really appreciate your oversight and productivity and the analysis. Because I think that that's really important. And we don't have that ability. We depend on you and that you develop a consensus around this among the criminal justice partners. That's invaluable.”
“Well, I do see this as the third and final phase of a comprehensive three phase process. When we hired Director Plowman, we asked her to take this on. And you've done it. And now we have to make some hard decisions. I just have a few questions.”
“On commercial use, if you're going from a use that is relatively less intensive to more intensive, For example, maybe a restaurant to a drive through where you have a lot more people coming in and out, say. Or you're going from a storage unit maybe to a gym. You've got more traffic. It's not just the parking, it's the traffic. Is there any way to take that into account?”
“Or I mean, if it's much more intensive use.”
“Okay. And since you explained it that way, I guess I parking is a surrogate. Think it's more traffic that people get worried about, at least in my experience. But I think what I hear you saying is that the commercial uses are similar enough that that's unlikely to trigger a big concern about neighborhood traffic increases. I”
“Got it. Just two other quick points. So when you're exempting things proposing to exempt things like HVAC or backup generators, is is is there a longer list? I was curious about water heaters. And then in terms of generators, I know APCD has cutoff between where you need a permit not, and wondered if that would make sense here.”
“And then my final question is sort of weighing this about, do we still hold standards for community plan areas? And the Gaviota Coast or Scenic Highways, those are something I've got top of mind trying there was a lot of blood, sweat and tears that went into the Gaviota Coast plan. And so I'm going to be trying to defend its integrity to the extent that I can.”
“Again, I'm thinking about the Gaviota Coast. I'm thinking about McMansions. And I'm not sure that two adequately deals with that. So I tend to favor one where there's thresholds.”
“So, again, size, if if it's a 10,000 square foot house, 12,000 square foot house, could that be under two exempt?”
“Yeah. So that's why I prefer number one where you've got Yeah. There's some cutoff or maybe tiered. But if it's really big and a really big impact on the neighborhood or the view shed,”
“Yeah. Okay. Jurisdiction's pretty narrow.”
“Well, I agree. Los Olivos would be another example. I'm trying to understand I mean, I think people went through blood, sweat, and tears on community plans.”
“did. And I could compromise some, but on the Gaviota Coast, that's one that I think is really I can't override that. And I need to understand better how these changes would affect that. And I'm sorry, have to catch a plane to Sacramento.”