Remarks by Joan Hartmann
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“Supervisor. Well, I remember when I visited the South County jail, we need new nomenclature for the jail. It's not the main jail. Help us out with that next time. I came out in tears. I mean, it was for people to work there people to be there. It was so really a terrible black eye on our county. And I recently, Chief Sullivan, you showed me around, spent some time with me at the new jail. And it is like night and day. And there was light, there was openness, there were bright colors. And people talking and the officers dealing with the residents, it was really... such a different environment,…”
“All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion passes.”
“right supervisor hartman thank you uh i just wanted to thank mary louise breitman who made this donation it really allows for much more flexibility in the planning we've got some county money and some federal money going to improve the lompoc animal shelter and this will give us more space more flexibility within which to design so thank you to mrs breitman”
“I just had a clarification. The number of active and idle wells, we had, I think, three different numbers floating around, one in our board letter, one in a statement, and then one in your presentation. So I just wanted clarification on that.”
“I do have a question for staff and that is this ordinance doesn't really address slant or horizontal drilling or approved oil drilling production plans or bested LUPs. Is that correct?”
“Okay. So there's still lots of opportunity out there, even if this phase out were implemented or this ban.”
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“Yeah, before we actually get to deliberations, I was intrigued by some of the calls for a conversation. I don't believe that that would have been raised if we weren't where we are today. But I think that that is something I don't want to ignore. I think it may be more appropriate as it relates to phase two, And we're not really agendized to talk about phase two today, but I would like to just set out where I would like to see things head. I would very much like to see an analysis of different amortization periods for different types of wells. And I would like to see that come prior to our…”
“Well, let me start by saying I think your characterization of North County is changing radically with the Space Force Base and all that's predicted to happen there. There's new aeronautic ag tech, low altitude flight. I mean, North County is projected to really grow in terms of jobs and opportunities. So it's not an either or choice anymore. There's a lot that's happening. I think, too, it's a false choice to say it's oil from here or oil from elsewhere. We do have substitutes. We have most of our electricity in California in the daytime is generated now by solar. We haven't had blackouts and…”
“Well, I just want to say that in South County there have been tremendous impacts from offshore oil and a lot of workers who work in that area, and I've spoken with them. So I think that's not quite the characterization you have, that it's only North County. It's onshore North County, offshore South County. I'm prepared to move staff recommendation.”
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“A couple of questions. In the design, will there be enough space for activities like the public defender meeting space? And how do we assure that? I'm having a hard time understanding how the proposal is and how flexible and responsive you can be to concerns of the community or concerns that maybe haven't been fully identified or vetted yet. And one of them is, I think, space for attorneys to meet with clients.”
“So the board has voted five zero for one and a half pods. We do see that our jail population given lots of policies that we've invested in is declining. Are we absolutely committed to outfitting that half pod or can that retain some flexibility over time?”
“And I'm not sure if you're the right one to answer this, but it's very important, to me at least, that we begin thinking about and designing how we decommission the old jail, South County Jail, used to be known as the main jail, to alternative and better uses. What we don't want is to have to have O&M costs for two jails when we're done with this. we need to reduce our O&M costs. That was a big incentive to try to put more units in North County. So can you speak to that? Are you the right person?”
“So not just how you move people, but how we use that differently. What options are there?”
“That's exciting. So if I understood A.C.O. Horton, we probably need the 1.5 pods if we're going to fully decommission and that will be more efficient ongoing, is that?”
“that concludes public comment for it uh administrative item number 27. all right thank you back to the board supervisor hartman uh yes first of all i'm i'm really glad that we're doing a design build i think we learned from the previous construction that this is a good way to go it does beg the question for me who makes the final decision on the design is it the sheriff is it the criminal justice partners general services does the board have a role And is there, so often up here, we send things off and then it comes back and it's done, it's fully baked. So in terms of transparency, what more…”
“Who would be on the governance committee?”
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“And if I might add something, we have a lot of transition happening. Right. And so we want to make sure that there's continuity with these principles.”
“Yeah, I have a couple. First of all, you just, congratulations. It looks like those, at least the first two sets of programs, Santa Barbara County is pulling beyond its weight compared to our neighbors to the north and south. So I assume that's, you're really hustling out there, so appreciate that. When you talk about serving hard-to-reach customers, you talked about Guadalupe and Santa Maria. I just wonder if you could elaborate a little bit about Lompoc, which also has underserved customers. They are not served, however, by PG&E, so maybe that is the issue.”
“Good to hear. And when you talk about hard to reach people and the subsidizing utility rates, where do seniors fit in that?”
“So this program or this set of programs is really to help people who otherwise wouldn't be able to afford this. So you're not really focused on who are the biggest energy users and trying to reduce that way, but really to help those who might be left behind if they didn't get some additional support.”
“So I remember maybe five, seven years ago, you couldn't find somebody to install a heat pump. Could you talk about your training program and how, what, is that the biggest impact or how now you see them everywhere?”
“That's exciting. And my last question is just about agriculture. You mentioned, I think, five different entities that you were working with. I'm not sure how that fits with your hard-to-reach mandate, but just hoping we can do more there and wondered if you could elaborate a bit on that for me.”