Remarks by Dave Eggers
526 remarks on the record, newest first · Page 18 of 22
“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. You got all the cheapest. You got, you know, you got you in the corner.”
“I think we seem to have, 1A is the architectural style.”
“And on a four to three vote, The outside piece is centered, not in the corner. And you'll be building the one out in the middle so that we don't get too expensive. Okay.”
“So I think the one thing you did here is there was a lot of interest in D. So if the eight million went to one million, then we'd probably have more. But as it stands, you've got your marching orders.”
“And that cost estimating will be building cost and then FF&E costs separately? Correct.”
“Well, this multi-talented commission is going from architectural designs to e-bikes now. So we thank you for your time. Thank you so much. And we're going to go deal with vehicles now. So appreciate it. Thank you all. Great presentation today and much, much improved. So thank you.”
“or sorry what the governor vetoed is outside of this okay so this exists currently so we can adopt a maximum speed of 15 on sidewalks we have i think 20 on the trails um is that right that's the current speed that's this current speed limit but we could we have the authority to change when we first built the trails there was no motorized vehicles allowed on the trails obviously the state change that over time and almost all motorized, except golf carts and cars at this point, are allowed on the trail, correct?”
“Okay, that's what I want to make sure. And right now at 20 miles an hour?”
“and we're still traveling on Paul Causey's design of everybody stay on the right side here and yeah. So now we have the e-bikes at 20 and probably higher with the people in a wheelchair side by side. Just wanted to make that point again because I just don't like it. Go ahead.”
“So the maximum 750 watts is allowed on up to 750 is allowed on our trails. Yes. It's allowed in our parks. But if you get these motor bikes that you're talking about, and again, I'm looking at buying an e-bike. So these are the classifications that I would look at. Yes. But the things that you're talking about and some of the commotion that we've heard from are a different bike that you just recently described. It's more than 750 watts. It's faster than 28 miles an hour. It is not allowed in our parks. It's not allowed on our trails.”
“Well, that just cleared that up like mud. I mean, that to me is a real problem. I mean, that's what's elevating all of this is this piece of conversation that's gray. So I think that's where we need to, well, we'll go through the presentation and let's get back to that point because really that's our problem here. If we can keep them off the trails and keep them out of the parks, keep them on the streets, again we're talking about mostly our kids so i'm not i'm not void of that concept either but sometimes somehow the parents system the parental system with those have to come into play so…”
“And again, what we've talked about is all these the e-bike concept. And I look at that and you've got motorcycles. Obviously, they're licensed and only can be on the road. Correct. So this area that we're talking about that I just mentioned, that gray area is kind of in between the e-bikes and the motorcycles, because those those. can go anywhere they can go on the streets they can go on the sidewalks well that's what we're going to talk about and they can go in the parks they can go on the trails that's been the that's been the contentious area that little group of bikes yeah okay i just…”
“That's because we didn't wear helmets when we were kids, so yeah, idiots we are.”
“I don't know what the right word is, legal. They're not at the shops. They're ordered online mostly.”
“So are you getting feedback from parents that spend the money buying these illegal bikes? Are they surprised? How is it happening that there's not more regulation on that notification?”
“Is it easy for our enforcement officers to tell those illegal bikes by visual, just by looking at them driving by? Is it easy to tell which ones are the legal ones versus the illegal ones?”
“So if there was any kind of change, we'd have to look at it from a standpoint of... probably multiple levels of warnings, making sure the parents got the warnings. And if we do that, then they have to have an ID on them that says who they are so we can get the warnings to the parents. I mean, if you get into that in the policy side. I mean, I don't know how else you... You have to go to the root of the problem, which is the parents may be buying something they're not aware is illegal. Since it doesn't pop up on the screen when they're doing an Internet purchase, this is an illegal purchase.…”
“They leave you in the dust on the trail. Right. Yeah.”
“Right. Yes? Yes. Are they legal in the streets?”
“What does that mean, appropriate things?”
“And these particular bikes, which are maybe easy to tell, I don't know that, but they're not really allowed to be anywhere legally if they don't have a tag. unless they're off road or if they're off road somewhere but not not in our parks not on our trails not on our sidewalks that's that's probably the case i i don't want to speak totally in generalities but probably yes that's why i was getting to the specifics yeah yeah we're bouncing back and forth i get that this is not easy stuff to understood i just wanted to kind of thank you appreciate that anybody else okay go ahead”
“Again, we're not talking young people buying a moped, and we're not talking about a motorcycle, because there's something in between, again, that we're talking about that you said is obviously legal to purchase.”
“How about your next meeting checking with Commissioner? I think it's Commissioner Valor Commissioner Wiki's youth advisory group and letting them sit in on a conversation because they clearly. even younger than you, I'm saying everybody's young, but they're really, they're right there, right? There are sophomores, our juniors, and our seniors in high school, and maybe they can provide some perspective, a different perspective that you guys might be able to include. That's a great idea.”
“Yeah, I might have found somebody, too. Did the guy go to you guys for that?”
“So now the easy part, right? That's right. Now, it sounds to me like there's a lot of things, and you had a couple of slides about what the state needs to be looking at. Maybe they are, and some of it got vetoed. I really don't know. And then you've got... Things that we might be able to control and to me it it's that connection between the kids that are riding illegally. Because there's doesn't sound like there's any place for them to really ride legally unless they get a dirt track or some other public or private place designated for them, right? That they can't write in our trails. They…”