Remarks by Bob Nelson
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“Okay, I think that's an important fact for us all. So I wanted to go through slide five to ask a few questions. I know in our checklist we're asking, I guess there's a checklist that these are the four items that we're looking at right now, why it's incomplete. Do we know whether, I mean, do we know, or does Carpinteria Summerlin Fire Protection District know if there is fire sprinklers within the existing residence? Because, I mean, wouldn't they have to get a permit to do that?”
“I understand. But is there any public record of when sprinklers are installed or that just gets done without a permitting process?”
“Would that still need to be on the plans?”
“And I understand that on the conditions. I'm just not sure if that's needs, you know, it sounds like a yes or no question on the application. So I'm kind of going through these. Right. So.”
“Okay. So, but that could be a condition of a project though. It could be fire access.”
“All right, so then the next one is showing location of the closest fire hydrant. Is that also the public record? Do you guys know where the fire hydrants are at?”
“Okay. And then thank you again. I just want to make sure that those things are already in the public record. That's kind of my, my concern about it being on a complete checklist. And I guess my next question is for flood control on whether you guys know where the flood hazards are.”
“So when you're within 20 to 30 feet of a flood hazard delineation?”
“All right. Do we have that information in the record as part of this appeal?”
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“actually got one more question i got one more question why miss sandoval is coming up um could the board make determinations on completeness on a few of those items but not all those items today or do we have to either say that they're all complete or none of them are complete because there's four items that we're saying that are needed for completeness that are not we could find that all four weren't met. Do we just need to find for one, two, three, four?”
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“Supervisor Levinas, do you still have a question?”
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“Thank you. Go ahead and turn it back to staff while we wait for county councils. Thanks, Supervisors. Willow, if you could pull up the slide.”
“Now back to the board for deliberations. Supervisor Lee, since your district, you want to kick it off?”
“So motion by so comment and already a motion by Supervisor Lee. Is there is there a second there? We can still discuss that motion. Yeah. Is there a second on that motion?”
“Okay, so there's a second on that motion of the staff recommendation, but we'll have further deliberations and discussion. Do you want Supervisor Levin?”
“Okay. Supervisor Hartman, do you have any further deliberations? I've got a couple comments.”
“Thank you, Supervisor Capps. As far as I'm concerned, I think a lot of our requests are often superfluous in the county, that we ask for a lot of things that might necessarily not need to be there that should already be in the public record, like fire hydrants. If that was the only one on here, I'd say it was complete. We have that in the public record. We know where they're at. we shouldn't be deeming something incomplete. Fire sprinklers, we should know whether they are, or we should assume that there is, and then if we want the higher standard, maybe that we'd have that option for an…”
“DO THINK A LOT OF OUR PROCESS SOMETIMES REQUIRES THE HIRING OF PROFESSIONALS TO DO ALL THIS STUFF WHICH I THINK IS UNFORTUNATE ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ASK FOR PEOPLE TO PRODUCE INFORMATION THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR OWN RECORDS. I DO THINK THIS NEEDED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BECAUSE OF THE OTHER EVIDENCE ON THE RECORD SO I STILL THINK WE COULD HAVE A SIMPLER PROCESS FOR APPLICANTS ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THESE AREAS OF PUBLIC INFORMATION. I THINK THAT'S REALLY INFURIATING FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THAT. BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE MY VOTE HERE AND I THINK THAT WE'RE TALKED OUT HERE. We have a motion and a…”