City Council - Special Meeting

Good evening everyone. We are here tonight for a public hearing. Um I'm am hereby calling it to order and I would ask you to please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Clerk, please call the role. Council member Ke. Council member Brazen, present. Council member Spay McLaren, present. Council member Ver present. Council member Saranto here. Council member Casey present. Council President Steel present. All are present. Council President, I move that the council resolve itself into a committee of the whole for the purpose of conducting a public hearing. Clerk, would you please call or please read the notice of call? The city council of the city of Troy will hold a public hearing on June 16, 2025 at 5:45 p.m. in the city council legislative chamber, Troy City Hall, 433 River Street at fifth floor, Troy, New York, in connection with the following matters. Ordinance amending Troy City Code Chapter 285 to establish a plan development district at 74 New Turnpike Road. Thank you. Uh the public hearing is now open. Uh the rules of the chair are pursuant to section 2.34 of the special rules of the Troy City Council. Um I would ask anyone who wishes to speak to come forward and give their name and address. Thank you. Do we have a microphone ready? Yep. On the brand. Thank you. Good evening. Good evening. Is that working? Okay. Yes. Thank you. Um Andy Brick from the brick law firm on the

staff of the applicant. Um we're here this evening to recharge the batteries and the microphones. We're here this evening um to uh request that you consider a PDD for our project at 74 New Turnpike Road. Uh it's the former Leonard Hospital site, approximately 6.8 acres. We're proposing 86 tiny home rental units. uh with 137 parking spaces. You have seen the front is not on. We know we know you have you have seen this project before. Um uh we brought you back in March, but you couldn't schedule the public hearing because we needed a secret determination which we received from the planning board. Uh so at this time we're asking you to uh act favorably upon the PD so we can continue with the project. It's an exciting project of its kind in the capital district and we're looking forward to answering any questions you may have. Thank you. Thank you, Andrew. Does anyone else wish to speak as part of the public hearing? We now have a microphone, so we love to hear you. Legislative. Uh, second call. Does anyone wish to speak as part of the public hearing? Please come forward. Okay. Any topic right now? No, this is just a public hearing on the tiny home development. Right. Thank you. That part is after. Yeah, we'll have that later in the evening. Thank you. Uh does anyone wish to speak on this particular project as part of the public hearing? Seeing none, um I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion. Council member Sorento. Second. Second.

Council member McLaren. All in favor? I opposed. The public hearing is hereby adjourned. Somebody the cover. That was Are we You want to mute till

Thank you. Good evening everyone and welcome to the Troy City Council Finance Committee meeting. It is June 16th uh little after 6. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Council member Keel. Council member Brosman present. Council member McLaren present. Council member Vera present. Council member Sorento. Council member Casey present and council president also present for the moment. Uh this evening uh before we begin our regularly scheduled agenda um we have the pleasure of welcoming Brendan Kennedy to present to us the long awaited Q1 for 2025. So Brendan gonna turn it right over to you or I'm not even council. I first wanted to introduce Mike McNaf, our uh new city controller to the city of Troy. Mike met with each of you for a very brief two seconds uh earlier. And uh folks, Mike McN, our new city controller, who um is temporarily appointed until the council uh acts on his permanent appointment. And uh we hope that you could put that

before the July uh council meeting. We could ask you to uh hold a finance prior to that or you know a hearing. Okay. Um real quickly, I cannot say enough um how far we've come in terms of the accounting of our finances. Um, as all of you know, uh, when we took office, the books weren't closed. Requisitions not done from 2023. Um, March, uh, was the last requisitions uh, were done. Long story short, um, fast forward, BST has, um, really turned things around. We filed our AFR uh, on time this year. the 2023 audit complete. Um, controllers's office has that and uh the uh 2024 is underway uh the audit for 2024. Um I cannot say enough about our controllers office. I know this sounds like a broken record, but um Brenda will tell you it was a long and winding road when um requisitions aren't recorded, etc. And uh the book's not closed. Gabrielle, the controllers's office has done phenomenal. Uh Sheamus, Deputy Mayor, Rick Morsy, I cannot say enough about them, but uh we have taken a turn in terms of the accounting. Tyler Technology has already begun the transition to go from the 1980s antiquated system uh to the new Tyler technology um which is fantastic and um

you know Mike will be very pleased once that is implemented. Um, we do know uh that BSP, one thing that you'll hear loud and clear at the end of this is BSP will be transitioned out now that Mike is on board. And that transition literally began today on Mike's first day. Um so Carolyn who is a VST employee has been uh reporting the uh requisitions etc and uh she will transition out at the end of the month which Brenda will talk about in terms of next steps. So um that's huge and we cannot say enough about Mike joining our team. Um, one of the things that we looked for when searching for a controller was, you know, can the controller be a controller and the deputy controller for now? Um, because we are going to obviously transition the controller's office. Gabrielle has some ideas. Mike will have ideas. But one of the things that we're focusing on, not just at the controller's office, but every department is building that bench because unfortunately um the history of trade the department head knows what's going on and unfortunately all the staff may not. So, we're really doing a lot of work in terms of team building, in terms of uh not just the office knowing what's going on, but also building that bench. And the two departments that you'll uh mostly hear about tonight, Boing Department, the fire department and police, they build a good bench. Um they have it, they're very strong. Our other departments are not. We're working on that because it's just decades old of

not building that bank. So, we're focusing on it. But like I say, I can't say enough about Gabrielle, Janice, Brit, and everyone pulled together. And we're truly happy and pleased to have a family. So, thank you. And uh Brenda, take it away. One last thing, Brendan was unable to break it down by the codes. I know that, you know, when Andy was here, um I myself, the prior mayor and worked together on the reporting and broke it down with the post. You'll have that um within the next couple weeks for um didn't realize those were the prior reports. Long story short, fast forward, he's working at the city of Renolier. You can blame Irene for that. um but he has other clients that he has to attend to. But um we'll break it down and give us that within the next couple of weeks. So um but saying that this um will give you a picture of where we are and I'll turn it over to Brendan and hopefully Yeah, I wonder if we could just take a pause for just a sec to see if we can't resolve this sound. Uh because folks at home are not going to be able to hear what's going on. Um, could we temporarily think she's got it for now? This is the second time. She's the batteries in it. You're good. Okay. Everyone hear me? Okay. Loud and clear. Perfect. All right. Off we go. So, no. I didn't bring an electric. Okay. Um, so, uh, I I, uh, I attempted to follow Andy's report. As the mayor indicated,

uh, the way I ran the expenses was was in a much more consolidated manner. Now that I see how Andy did it, uh, it could have been done pretty easily. The the timing of this Q1 report is entirely based on my availability, and it's just very difficult to manage all that's going on without disappointing someone. So finally got to it. Uh put together some summarized numbers for you folks. Attempted to do the footnotes the way that that uh the previous comproller would have done. Uh and so you know going through the goal was just Q1 uh to see how we're doing relative to the budget. Obviously there are things that transpire uh things are not always that final number divided by 12. Some sometimes things uh pop sooner than later. And again, you know, putting together these reports, it it is a little cumbersome because there's really no button you press where it spits out it. It's getting various reports together, various pieces of data and and going through and assembling that that way. So, when you turn to the the Q1 revenues on the general fund, for example, I thought the most relevant number to property taxes is what you collected through Q1. All right. Obviously, when you you have your tax lean in the beginning of the year, that's your revenue uh for all intents and purposes. Obviously, if you're not going to collect all of it, there's reserves. So, I went with what was collected and that's your your real property tax number. You can see you got about 55% of it. Uh I understand you bill twice a year. So that at first threw me off until I realized speaking with people who actually live in Troy that some people actually pay the full tax amount upfront and so therefore it it may make sense that your your property tax collections for the year uh might exceed 50%. Uh similarly I tried to go through anything where there was an anomalous

from either the budget or from the prior year and uh there there should be some kind of footnote there uh with my attempt to explain what happened and what's going on. You know what makes the revenues particularly difficult when assembling this report is again those how how the data is done on the modified acrruel basis of accounting. And so while the cash the property taxes, cash collections, everything else is just pretty much spit right out from KBS. And so often when you look at things like grants and your local sources, which includes uh your sales tax and some of those other things that you get, uh that is on a bit of a lag. So your sales tax for Q1 is going to get collected uh subsequent to March. I think it comes in sometime in May or even June. And that's the the the timing issue. When we do the year-end financials or when Andy did the year-end financials or whomever did the year- end financials, there's acrruels that are done. We book receivables, we book payables, we book those things. Those traditionally are not done during the year based on my review of Andy's reports. And so those kinds of acrruels are not uh in reflected in here. Okay. So, uh, I'm not sure how you folks want if you probably don't want me to read the report verbatim, but if there's questions specifically, just um, I think we'll take the questions as we Sure. If if that's okay with you. Yeah. Uh, council members, any questions regarding the revenue for Brendan? Council President. Councilman McLaren, is there any way to know as far as the um sales tax um would Q4 of last year at least help? Sure. So that when we look at that there's not a a

panic because Yeah. Yeah. Understood. There's nothing, you know, would that be um comparable to or at least close to what Yeah. So would be what we acred or what came in in the actual money that came in during the first quarter, right, was about $2.9 million that was acrewed uh back to 2024 uh as part of that audit. And I I do think that was fairly comparable. Um we could probably have the uh certainly for the Q2 report whatever came in during that that time period uh so that we could we could compare that. close up cuz you said for the real property taxes that is what is like cash in hand what has currently been collected. Yeah. So you you you collected cash in hand on sales tax I think it was like 2.935 million uh okay which was AC that was an acrruel back to 24. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Sure. Any other questions? No. Council President Councilman Vera just sort of following up on Katie's question. So we did in fact receive a check from the county for sales tax. You get one quarterly. Okay. Yep. Yeah. And so similarly to to prior years that Q4 check is going to get collected in February or March of 26. So there's always a quarter lag. That's just that's accounting. It's there seem to be a jump in um public safety. Is that is that fees collected? We'll have to look into that for you. I can I can get you the breakdown of of those numbers year-over-year. Okay. Your footnote I see says vacant building fees, but I'm just curious if there's anything else that No, just vacant. Those were that was the main because year-over-year it's quite a quite a jump

as well. Yep. Could be timing. Again, if it's of particular interest, we can drill down and and get you the exact. But uh when I as I look at footnote three, I apologize for that. Uh uh realizing now um it was that was the revenue line item that had spiked. And then I saw that for recreation we had estimated uh 1.4 million. Uh we only collected 52,000 in the first quarter. Is there a big ticket item that we had we had banked on that's going to hit later in the year? Yeah, not many golfers in uh January, February, and March. So that'll that'll pop. Okay. Okay. So that's the entire golf course then the the Oh yeah. very little golf revenues. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. That's the primary part of it. And that's you know and that's why it's hard too when you look at these quarterly reports you know you want to almost annualize and that percent achieved is is going to move. So um and who knows maybe because of the weather golf is down this year you know and that's something we can keep an eye on. I know I certainly haven't been able to play every weekend, but uh your your big golf months are going to be May, June, July, and August right through uh October, and then it'll start tailing off again. I did have a conversation over here. Yeah, you uh what's included under the miscellaneous line item? I saw the the foot footnote six um makes mention of of TRF funds. Um, yep. Uh, those right now those TRF funds have not been collected. If you want a breakdown of of the miscellaneous accounts, we can we can certainly do that for you. And then I just happen to notice that inner fund revenue is identical to what it was last year. Um, and I believe

that's also identical to what it was in 23. Is that an estimated number? No, it's your uh it's your budgeted uh it's your budgeted cost allocations from uh what the general fund charges the other funds for for overhead cost. And so that number is literally the the budgeted amount divided by you know 12* 3. These are some of the manual journal as we transition Mike on. Uh these are some of the manual journal entries that you know we got to make notes about so he can he can carry the torch and get those posted. That's that's got to be done every month. So I have circled miscellaneous so I can respond to you uh Councilman Vera as as a followup. Thank you. And then inner fund transfers uh the 1.4 million that's listed there the budgeted amount that's the water fund. That's the profit distribution. That's a budgeted number as well. I think traditionally the city has waited to ensure the water fund actually has a profit, right, to transfer. So, um Andy may have in past done that entry monthly. Uh the past 23 and 24, uh we just did it at the end of the year. Okay, that was a Q4 adjustment. So, if the water fund's looking like it's going to have that money, then, you know, we could we could conceivably start making that transfer. Excellent. Thank you. Okay. So, specifically, I'll follow up on the miscellaneous for you, Councilman Vera, just so you have those codes. Yes, sir. Okay. Perfect. And if you would share that with the entire council, we'd appreciate that. Thank you. Of course. Of course. Any other questions from council members on the uh general fund revenues? Okay, moving on. All right, so now

moving on to the Q1 expenditures and and like I said, uh we will get you I toyed with it a little bit today. I again I just didn't have the time. I for example, I I realized now that everything in the system that's coded 401 as a sub code is utilities. And so I played with the utilities today just to see how that would, you know, compare. And sure enough, uh it was pretty easy to put together. So it's just a matter of time to get that. I can tell you specifically utilities is ahead of budget. That was the only one I didn't. Uh but uh and that's partly due to the fact that the way we record our national grid credits, but I'll I'll have that for you folks. uh the way that the expenditures are organized in and the way that the OSC chart of accounts salaries are 0.1's uh I combined the 02s threes and fours that's the middle employee benefits and then the uh the inner fund transfer so uh a couple of things just as I was going through the numbers we realize that the pension expense uh that's what's missing in Q124 that's a footnote I can assure you that your employee benefits are not up that much comparative. Uh this year we we posted that pension entry because we got one year smarter. Uh and uh so the numbers I think if you had posted that last year it would have been an additional 2.3 million or or whatever I said there. Similarly inter fund transfers uh the bulk of the inter fund transfers are going to be to the debt service fund. And as you look at footnote four, that's one area of homework we have left to do that we'd like to clean up before uh you know Mike completely takes over. So the way the way that the payments work, we we pay the principle and interest out of the debt service fund and then the water, sewer, uh general and sanitation fund have to make an inter fund transfer to

that fund to to in essence uh you know fund those. And so that that entry needs to get done. And that's that's the uh the inner fund. The only item that kind of caught my eye is is as an is is something to keep your eye on. Should probably not be a surprise. When I was going through the payroll and I noticed that in all the other funds, it was almost spot on 25%. That's something that, you know, should be fairly rattible during the year because our salary increases and things like that. um you know just looking at the the salaries being at 27% of the utilized budget. I I kind of focused in on the overtime and this will be uh this is all the overtime and I understand that the report that will get you will break the overtime down to the various components. Uh the overtime has used 40.8% of its budget year to date. And so obviously that that's the kind of information I think the the council wants to know uh so they can keep an eye on it and do your monitoring procedures. Um obviously there'll be accounts during the year that we have to probably make some kind of budget transfer or budget modification for uh but that's obviously one to keep an eye on. Nothing else uh really caught my eye and but again you'll get that detail for your own purview and you can you know pepper me with questions uh going forward. Council President, Council Member Bar, no McLaren. Thank you. Um you said that the OT um had taken 40% of the budget and you said yearto date. Did you mean Q1? Q1. I'm sorry. Yes. Thank you. Good, good correction. Yep. Q1, the budget year to date is that 3,248 and uh we've utilized 1,32583

and that's all of your overtime. And I know I again going back to that report that uh uh Councilman shared with me, it will there's stuff codes that break that down. Okay. Yep. Any other questions? Council President, Councilman Farah, I'm sorry. I think you mentioned the debt service was not included on this or it was included the the transfer to the debt service fund is you can see it's only $62,000. We we made debt service payments in Q1. We need to reflect the general funds portion of those interest and principal payments. they need to be reflected in this transfer. So the 62,000 then includes codes 600, 700 and 900. So on the on previous I'm going back to that that example I had sent you. Yeah. Yeah. And so there's code six and seven 600s and 700s that are debt debt service. Debt service is the one that has not been posted. Okay. And then obviously you know whatever uh ARPA funds as well. That's another reconciliation that's that's got to that's got to get done. We we know what's ARPA spent in terms of the C CM fund and then we need to basically that's a a debit to the liability, a credit revenue, then you transfer the money and and uh so on and so forth. So there's there's a couple cleanup items. I understand you're going to get me the breakdown, but do we have um and this might be a question for the mayor. Um do we have any any thoughts behind why we've consumed 40% of overtime in the first three months of the year or why uh the salary line item exceeds 25% with the number of vacancies that we we have. Okay. I mean, year-over-year

it's comparable, but yeah, the the budget number is the number I'd be looking at as well. Council President, Council Member Casey, uh, that is, you know, somewhat concerning. I realize that does does happen with the overtime, but I think it's a just a question for administration. I'm sure you're aware of it. Uh, have you been taking any steps or what's going on with the staffing or manning? I would assume a lot of it's police and fire. Uh, have you been taking acting steps to uh try to uh cut this number down? Was that a question? Were you as you were asking them if they had Yes. if what if any steps have you been taking to try to you know have you up the manning or what have you done to try to rein this in at this time? Well, regarding fire, you're going to hear of a a whole proposal this evening to put 24/7 the fourth ambulance, not just peak ambulance service, the 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and the increase in four additional firefighters. Um, we all know then the fire department, the OT, what's driving that? We're fortunate to have ARPA monies. What you'll hear tonight is a long-term proposal to decrease that overtime. That's the whole point. Um, to hire four firefighters so down the road, we aren't spending as much money on ONT. um we'll get you the breakdown, but the majority of this um is firefighting, firefighting overtime. In prior years,

if you look at 2023 uh the third quarter report, um that was third quarter, we were 120% over budget. So, um, at the end, you know, we do and, you know, much like Andy did and much like prior years, you pull from where you're down to, um, make up for the areas where it is over. Um, saying that I believe our police department I have to uh get their OT, but they've um they have several grants which uh subsidizes much of their OT whether it be give some of the other state federal grants. So our police uh should be in line with prior years. Um, regarding staffing, I'm very pleased that, you know, we are do more with less. At the same time, we are looking at various departments differently. Um, for instance, public utilities. You'll see a number of labor positions that are open. Um, they've informed us they don't need laborers. They have enough laborers. So, now they're looking for ME lights. Um so you'll see on the civil service agenda just really looking at our departments differently, not just looking in a box. Um we did just hire um a new staff person. You know, in the past we had the recycling coordinator. We're looking at that department much different differently in terms of a sustainability and outreach coordinator. That person just started a week and a half ago. Um, but we'll get you the breakdowns and I think the breakdowns will um tell the story for for each of those. Great. Thank you.

Any other questions? Um, just one last question. Councilman Farah, do we have a total for Q1 expenditures? If you were to sum these amounts, that would be this is the the this is a complete list of all the expenditures. Correct. Okay. Correct. Okay. Let's move on. Thank you. You know, water and sewer. I I I tried to again think of some information you might want to might want to see. And so the the first slide is just uh is just to demonstrate the collections and and you know how how we did with that uh Q1 that went out. Um you know, when you look at the end of Q Q1 we we collected about uh just over 92% of our our water and and sewer. Th this is specifically the uh Troy customers. This is not the municipal customers. Obviously, we sell a significant amount to other municipalities uh throughout the uh throughout the area here, not in Weler County only, but also to Half Moon and to Manans across the the river. So this this picture is just your uh is just your city customers. Um so this is by sequence. You can see the the total collections versus the billings. Uh not too bad. Um the next tab is is probably closer to what you're familiar with. Uh the these are just the comparative and the versus budget. Uh you can see that our our water is slightly higher. I would have uh uh not sure off top of my head what the what the water rate increase was if at all, but I know consumption was was pretty flat year-over-year when I looked at it. Um I also looked at just to get a sense of

how we did on our re levies because you know these numbers are great but cash is important too. Uh we got 79% of those water and sewer re levies collected in Q1. I thought that was worth mentioning. And so you know the and going back to you know preparation of these reports the the municipal water what we sell to Renelier East Greenbush and all those other municipalities that's done either um twice a year or in some instances it's done quarterly and so it's the same kind of concept where uh the the the amount of water we sold in Q1 then needs to be measured then needs to be built and that will go out sometime in April or maybe even May. And so there's always that lag too with the municipal uh the municipal water. Uh so but you know the number of customers municipally to my knowledge has not changed and so uh we would hope that that would be relatively on point with budget. when we get Q2, uh we'll see some of that money rolling in some of those municipal revenues. But, you know, again, uh seems to be on pace with prior year, seems to be on pace with budget. Just off the top of my head, I would expect water to increase uh during the warmer months. However, uh it's been pretty wet. So, uh and again, I'm not as familiar with your your water usage. you know, if you're in suburbia, you might have people that water their lawns that aren't doing that or filling pools. And so, we'll have to keep an eye and see how the the city water trends uh and the municipal billings as well. Uh it wouldn't totally shock me given how wet it is if consumption decrease, but we'll we'll keep an eye on that and report back to

you folks. Consumption is going to be your driver of revenue and that's going to drive your sewer revenues, too. So, uh, summarize data for the expenditures. Again, uh, we'll we'll get to you the the same format. Uh, the water fund was a lot easier than the general fund. Uh, quite frankly, it it uh it looked like the transfer to the debt service fund was made. We're going to we're going to reconcile all those transfers uh to the debt service fund or or all the applicable funds. And so, uh, you know, put a little asterisk next to that transfer line item. That's something that we'll true up and and work with Mike to make sure we we get that, uh, nailed down correctly. Uh, but everything else, you know, operationally, obviously, the the numbers are up, uh, compared to to 24, but they appear to be in line with uh, the budget that the city council approved. So, not not a ton uh from my perspective to discuss, you know, other than again, we got to reconcile that that debt. It's on my list. Uh reconcile the debt and make sure the transfers are all tied out for you guys so that Mr. McN has a a clean slate for himself here. Any questions, folks, on the water fund? Council President, Councilman Vera, so the 1.2 two million that's shown for water revenue. You're saying that that isn't a complete number because it only includes billings to Troy residents. That's correct. So that number might be a little bit higher. Oh yeah. Okay. So then the percentage of of revenue we're at 23%. That could be that could be 25. It could No, I I only uh to that's a good question. Uh Councilman, uh to be clear, I only put the budgeted amount of your city of your city council customers. Okay. So then this is looking

at just a subset a large but less a subset of of revenue. Absolutely correct. Whereas the sewer I I believe is a little more uh inclusive of of the total that that that budgeted uh number for the water customers is is just for your municipal customers. And then these uh the sequencing here uh you know the bill that I receive would have just been in one of those sequences like that's a those are bills that are run like the first week in January or then the second week or Yeah. It's actually pretty interesting the way this the city came up with it. If you looked at it and you counted them I believe there's there's uh 13 sequences and so there's a water billing going on every week. And then as soon as sequence 63 is done, that starts the next um that starts the next one. So every every the next quarter. Bingo. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's not, you know, the the time period that sequence 51 covers is going to be different than the the time period that sequence 58 covers. And it would just, you know, if you could snap your fingers and and get meter readings all at the same time, that'd be beautiful. But that that's just how the the the folks manage the the readings and get the numbers input and uh so on and so forth. So you got to look at all you got to look at all the sequences though and that's kind of how we measure the revenue even though they're on a bit of a even those are on a bit of a different timetable. Gotcha. Y good question still council member just a a a quick question administrator. What is the approximate ballpark revenue from those municipalities for water ballpark? 5 million, 6 million, right around there. I Oh, wow. So, it is the same the same as what we were looking at. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's double check your budget, but it's it's up there. Yeah. I mean, uh Renolier and East Greenbush are huge customers. Um,

you know, Brunswick, the town of Brunswick's a significant customer. Uh, you know, Manan, so on and so forth. They're they're they're big and you know, East Greenbush and um it goes on one bill, East Greenbush and Renelier. Uh that's by uh twice a year, right? So it would be uh by Yeah. Yeah. So um you know, you get that money twice a year. So, you'll get a big check probably you got a big check I think in early January for last year. You'll probably get a check in early early July. And and I I'll try and get you those numbers, too, just so you get a little flavor. I we can incorporate that even though the money didn't come in. I'll have little footnotes for you as to what the amounts were and so you can kind of get that that data. Um, but it'll be over a million bucks. Any other questions? Okay, thank you. You can move on. Okay. All right. Uh, so you know that that kind of covered the sewer revenues too. So the next slide after the water fund expenditures is your is your uh is your is your sewer uh fund. And it it's kind of the same story. Uh these were my favorite ones to prepare because they were the two easiest. Uh similarly, we'll reconcile the debt service for you to make sure that's all good. Just be be mindful with those transfers. They they should in theory tie at the end of the year to your budget. We know what our debt service is going to be. It's a very predictable expense and we should have budgeted uh whatever the uh funds respective funds share of that should have been uh budgeted and and transferred you know when needed to the debt ser it should be a very predictable line and it it's not going to be you

know a quarterly thing because I think our big debt service is um I think twice a year with bonds we make an interest payment and then uh interest payments twice a And then the bond principle I I forget, but it obviously wasn't Q Q1. Um anyways, that'll that'll be cleaned up for you. Similar um maybe slightly ahead of budget. Uh you know, on somewhat consistent with 2024, you know, um when when you have a smaller fund, a smaller set of activity, be mindful that one person hopping on the the city's health insurance plan could swing it from 94,000 to something significantly higher. Um, you know, particularly if it was a family plan. I don't have the exact details, but you're the smaller the fund, the more subject you could be to to fluctuations. Uh, with that said, you know, the salaries and contractual expenses seem on track. Um, I think I noted in footnote three, uh, of that increase year-over-year on employee benefits, 19 of that was was health insurance, in fact. Um, certainly pension expenses are not going down and things of that nature. So, uh, but again, if you were to back out that 19, I think we'd be pretty close to on on track for for budget. So, same thing. We'll get you the detail breakout. We'll, you know, same format that you you like. And if there's more detail you want, you just got to tell the administration. We can accommodate that. Any questions, council members? Guess we'll move on to the garbage fund then. Okay. I can tell you personally, I

almost had a heart attack when I looked at the garbage fund revenues until someone explained to me or reminded me how the garbage fund is built. And it's an annual fee that you guys send out in two installments. The first installment is due at the end of April and then I believe it's five months after that. So, uh, to no surprise, no one decided to prepay their annual fee. Uh and so if we're measuring Q1, which is the end of March, the bills haven't even gone out and uh and and here we are. So, uh I suspect when you get your Q2 report, u you know, it it should be a pretty mechanical calculation. There was a slight trend, it seemed like, of picking up customers. So, uh, hopefully our our our budget is is, uh, fairly accurate, but, you know, um, you know, I would hope to see 50% of that, uh, build obviously by by the end of Q2. We can also get you collections and see how much of that billing was collected, uh, during the months of May and June. Uh, some anomalies here and there in in some of these other things. you know, if there was uh passion to find out about what happened with garbage violations, we can certainly dig down and and get that. And beyond that, the the items kind of seemed on track to me or uh just simply not that material. But uh if there's any questions with the revenues, I think uh Q2 will be a more interesting conversation to look at than than Q1 here, just due to the nature of our billing cycles. Council President, Council Member McLaren, uh, what kind of gift or donation happened in 2024 that didn't happen in 2025? We'll get the details and we'll pull the support for you. Okay. Thank you.

Someone gave us trash. I don't know. But, uh, but we'll get that. Good question. Yeah, council member Barrett. Thank you. Um, yeah, I do I I am kind of curious to see what happened with violations because that's a little bit lower, but that might also be expected because of the winter months. Is that No, it's actually billing. Um, just some of the billing was uh delayed uh for some violations, some staff changes. Uh, one person actually moved to code. So, another person um picked it up and it's just a delay in terms of getting the violations to um the cons the property owner. I did want to mention um the bulk pickup um as you'll see uh much higher than last year at this time. Huge kudos to the quality of life action uh crews who were out there, our litter patrol officers. Um they're just crushing it. But in terms of the refu and garbage violations, it was just a delay in billing. They did get out, so we anticipate that for quarter two, so that'll bounce up quite a bit. um but you know our litter patrol um and just so folks are aware um what you do see a lot of times we'll get phone calls um from constituents who'll say we saw the city of Troy um clean up say uh a vacant building lot or even someone's private property um if that particular property owner does not keep that property up to are they have so many

days after being cited. If they don't um we will abate it and we will find and bill. So um you know just huge kudos to Joe Maserillo his team they are crushing it in uh Sheamus also um we were out there the other night conducted operation sweep which literally is is code uh community police are all of our forces hitting the streets sanitation etc. And um we literally have from 113 going north um wrote um over 150 different violations from litter patrol alone doesn't even include code. So you know we'll have a summary of that but it literally is just clean air streets house by house block by block and they're just doing a phenomenal job. So, mayor, you're saying that you when when someone receives a citation, um, if enough time goes by, the city will go on and clean that. Are is there are there any specific areas that you're targeting with that approach or is that city that's city wide? Citywide. Yep. And a lot of it also is see something, say something. If somebody calls in or a council member uh calls in about a constituent who reported a nearby property that just is, you know, full of trash, high weeds, high grass, etc. Um, we send litter patrol andor code enforcement and uh if the person doesn't clean up and you know the goal here is folks, yes, the revenue is fine and you know, we're we're happy to get that, but at the end of the day, we want folks to comply. You know, that's what this is all about. teamwork and really getting

property owners to um be responsible, to be accountable, and to keep their properties neat. And we are getting much more compliance compared to prior years. Mayor, uh can you just speak a bit about your thoughts on the garbage fee? Yeah, you know, it's uh it's not an easy fee and uh you know, my goal is to phase the fee out. Um I look at it as an additional tax. We all know and for those who don't know, it started out as a temporary fee. Um it was at $160 some odd dollars and that was back in 2018. it turned from a temporary fee to what it is today, a permanent fee, which continues uh to rise uh except for this year. Uh we were very very fortunate. We thought creatively and we were able to keep it at the 260 that's at. So the goal is to phase it out. We're talking on different uh talking about different strategies um and other ideas um to try to phase that out because we all know that the fee turned into um basically a hidden tax. Folks were getting their garbage picked up under their property tax at the time. Unfortunately, um it wasn't thought about creatively and it was essentially implemented to circumvent the five votes needed for a tax increase to override the tax cap. So, um here we are today. It is a $3 million item, 3.2. It continues to rise

because obviously our our salaries contractual obl obligations and we're competing with the private sector and unfortunately the private sector is incentivizing folks to you know join the private firms to get private garbage collection. We have seen a tiny bit of an uptick um because we are doing a phenomenal job. Like I said, Joe Shame and the crews are you know constantly um ensuring that our service meets or even um you know crushes the private sector but at the same time they're providing the service for a cheaper cost. So, we'll continue in house. Obviously, the budget uh will include that item and we're trying to think out of the box. So, you you anticipate the fee to stay within the 2026 budget. And what's your time? Well, the goal the goal is, like I said, to try to phase this out. I I'm trying to talk. The goal is to try to phase it out. This year, we were fortunate to keep it at that level. So, we'll see. And obviously, like I said, we're we're striving in house um to figure out how we can phase that fee out. What would you anticipate to be that phasing out? How many years do you see it in? We'll see when we propose our budget, council president, you'll have an answer for us then. Well, it'll be in the budget, right? But you're right. You're talking about phasing it out. So, I said that's a goal and that is something we're working very hard to do in the budget. We'll be proposing next year's plan and a long-term solid waste plan. Yeah. I do note anecdotally that folks are coming back to the city

because as we had anticipated before there were some uh introductory uh offers that the private haulers were offering and now once they you know get them in they now uh are raising the rates and so folks are coming back uh I've seen that happen. So I'm I'm I'm hopeful that trend continues. Uh, any other questions? Council President Seal, Council Member Casey. I guess it's basically uh to the mayor, the administration. Well, I guess B2 to I mean, it's been a long road for us financially with all these reports. We I'm not going to rehash everything we went through with what we were left and basically the old program and how the accounting was done and it's been a really, really long road. But I do believe with this we are completely up to date with all our filings. Correct. Hallelujah. It's okay. We'll take it. Was there any questions on the uh garbage uh expenditures? Obviously, I kind of talked to the point of the the transfers the debt service. uh you know the payroll is down which is nice but it's it's just that 25% of budget which you kind of hope for and expect um and uh everything else appears to be tracking on par. Uh I I would note and this is part of the 25 budget that the general fund does make an appropriation to the garbage fund in essence to balance the books. uh last year it didn't need it. Uh there was enough revenue to cover the expenses. I don't foresee that happening this year. I would expect that in order for the garbage fund to balance the

books, it's it's going to need that uh either a portion or all of the transfer that's budgeted for from the general fund. That's an entry. Again, just to be full transparent, it's not posted. It's not reflected in here. Uh but it's probably going to need to to be posted. Uh so that that will be a pickup in the in the garbage fund and and a detraction or reduction in in the general fund in line with the budget. Councilman Bar, is that the is that 900,000 at the very end of revenues? Yes, sir. Okay. But that is Yep. Any other questions, folks? Okay. Okay. Well, with any luck, you'll start seeing less of me. Uh, and it's nothing personal. I like all of you. Uh, but we got a good comproller here. Uh, I I didn't work on the Albany County account uh when when Mike was there, but I know my my peers have. And so, it's pretty exciting for the city to to have him. And so the goal uh the goal all along was to provide temporary help. Uh we thought there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Um it was a freight train. Uh now we have our light. Uh and and I like I said, Caroline is going to be rolling off at the end of the month. Uh my goal would be to support Mike in whatever capacity that the city thinks. Uh, logically, I kind of mentioned some homework, you know, in this report. There's some some debt service entries I want to make sure I nail down. I want to make sure Mike knows those monthly or quarterly entries that need to get done. Uh, I'd be happy to to take a stab at the Q2 report. So, that's timely, too, just to take the

burden off, Mike. It's now that I know how all the pieces come together. Uh it it should be pretty straightforward to assemble. Uh again, my own personal availability. I probably can't get that report to you guys until sometime in mid early August, but I think that would be pretty in line with when you got things in the past. Obviously, the the sooner the the better. Uh so I just listed some of those continuing efforts. Again, the goal phase out BST. I would guess by uh the time Q33 rolls around. Other than maybe helping Mike with a few questions, uh I I won't be needed and and maybe Mike needs a little help with the year end closeout, but I know Mike's done AFRs and things like that. So, you you really wouldn't need much more time. So, hopefully more of an advisory role than actually doing all the work. Uh, I mentioned the debt roll forward that that's the issue with those transfers. I got to I got to get that done and in fact I might as well just do it for the year so that we have it and we can make sure those entries in the later quarters are posted correctly. There was a couple classification issues I noticed when I was doing the the general fund parking revenues. I want to make sure we get those in the right buckets. Uh there's some ARPA journal entries. So these are just kind of my those homework items that that we got to do uh over the next, you know, couple months. uh you know flag those budgetary items too. You know if there's any budget items that are at or over budget uh we should make those transfers. And again the the last point I had here is that Q2 report. Uh we'll we'll when we redo Q1 for you, we'll make sure you like that. If there's any extra data or anything you're looking for, we can incorporate that. Uh but then again targeting that Q2 report for for August 25 and by then

you know everything should be in the a reasonable order for for Mike to take off you know take over without any you know bogeies that he's got to worry about. Um so Brendan you you see yourself here to August to accomplish these items. Is that is that I I've been spending to be honest very very little time here. Okay. Or your staff? No, we're we're pulling out at the end of the month. So, how will these uh items be accomplished? We will map those entries that we've been doing and the work we've been doing and transf transfer that over to Mike. Okay. Uh, and if Mike for whatever reason needs help, I'll he'll have to go through the channels. Uh, and you know, if you needed somebody for something, uh, we're right here. You know, it's a my office is in Laam. It's a 15minute drive. It's it's very easy to come over. It's the same kind of relationship we had at Alb County. I know Mike was not my my fellow partner John. He's, you know, happy to reach out. Uh, so we're we're kind of like that. uh right in the background if if you need us. I can assure you I have plenty of other things to do. Irene. Okay. We got plenty to do. Uh we're we're happy to help out when we can. It's actually going to it's actually a relief for me to have to have somebody here. Uh can you share with us how much the city has paid you thus far? I I I'll get that for you. Okay. Okay. I have access to our billing records. Okay. I'd appreciate that. I'm sure they have that, too. And on the subject of appreciation, I just want to express my personal appreciation. I think I speak on behalf of the council uh that this is a long time coming, but very much

appreciated. And we're happy to help. Like I said, I've got a sense of relief uh with with having Mike here. I think that's going to be a good fit. you know, we tried a couple things and came up short. And uh great, you're going to be better off with a full-time qualified person than than me sitting at these meetings because you're going to have someone that knows these details off the top of their head versus someone who's thinking about 20 clients at once. So, it'll be better for the city. But, uh definitely we'll get you. The other thing, too, that I neglected to mention is the um I'm helping out wrap up the 24 audit. Uh, so I've been supplying things to Bonado as as part of their process. So, uh, you know, we can keep Mike posted on those things, but a lot of that work was all work that I did or my team did. And so, it might be a little difficult for Mike just to pick that up out of the blue because again, it was all BSD work. Very good. Any last comments? Well, then thank you so much. We really appreciate it. My pleasure to to all of you and again we'll get that data for you in the in the right way that you want it. So yeah, thank you. Yeah. by explain what's up.

Thank you for At this point of the evening, we have the public forum for agenda items only. So, if you wish to comment on anything that's on the agenda, please come forward. Have about 3 minutes or so to make your point. Um, and we look forward to hearing from you. There are agendas in the back of the room if you're unclear as to what item is actually on the agenda or not. There will be a public forum at the end of the evening for any item. Uh, not necessarily an agenda item. So, if you wish to speak on anything that we'll be acting upon tonight, please come forward. Yes. Thank you. Um, good evening, council members. I am Jerry Ford. Um, here company with my wife and um Aaron Conington and we're here tonight to um just be present as the city um recognizes Junth. Um, we just want to say thank you for your support and everything that's been going on for the

last couple of years as we put these celebrations together to recognize, you know, the um the the journey of the African-Americans in our country. And we want to uh officially invite all of you to come out. Please come out to the celebration. We would love to see your faces there. This will take place on Thursday. Um, we will we were we were going to be at Geneva Pumpy Park on 7th Avenue, but due to the rain, we've made an adjustment and we'll be at school, too. So, the celebration for Junth this year will be at school, too, and we're starting at 12:00. And consider this your own personal invitation, and we would love to see your faces there. Thank you very much, Jerry. Thank you. Appreciate it. Does anyone else wish to address the council? Can you hear me? Yes. All right. Thank you. Um, hi, I'm Notoria Drakes. I work in the local Social Security office and I'm here to address one of the resolutions there. I just want to thank you guys for the opportunity to express my thoughts today. I must preface as a federal worker that my views and perspectives today are that of my own and not of any agency I represent. Um, I'm here today to urge you, our elected representatives, to pass the resolution supported the continued operation of local Social Security offices and to stand in solidarity with the workers who keep these vital services running.

Social Security is not just a line in an item budget. It's a lifeline for seniors, for people with disabilities, for families who lost a loved one. These benefits, they mean stability, they mean dignity, and the chance to live with some security in the world that too often feels uncertain. Um, right now, these lifelines are under attack across the country. We're seeing office closures, staffing cuts, and increased pressure on already overwhelmed social security employees. And this is not an accident. I think it's a part of a troubling pattern that this administration's approach to slowly dismantle public trust and reduce accessibility to the very systems that protected generations for over n almost 90 years. Uh these workers at these offices, they're enduring more than just budget strain. They're enduring burnout, uncertainty, and quite frankly disrespect. Um they're showing up every day serving the most vulnerable members of our community even as the federal support behind them are road. How can we not the city, the country even? How can we not support these people? Passing this resolution sends a clear message that Troy stands for its people. Troy listens to its people. Troy stands for his workers. and Troy will not sit silently while attempts are made to gut Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare. This is not just about policy. This is about values. It's about whether we will stand up for workers that are doing the ground level work to keep these systems going. It's about whether we will show our seniors and our

struggling neighbors that we have their backs, too. By passing this resolution, you, the Troy City Council, have a chance to be on the right side of history. To tell your constituents that you see them, that you hear them, and that you are willing to fight for them. We ask that you support this resolution, not just as a statement, but as a stand for justice, dignity, and the belief that no one in our city should be left behind. Again, I thank you for this opportunity to share this message with you and I could only hope that we see the urgency in fighting for the people with no exceptions. Thank you. Thank you very much. Good evening, city council. My name is Jeff Ward. I'm the Troy Fire UFA president for those you haven't met me yet. Um I have some big shoes to fill obviously filling in for Eric. Um there is a lot of uh proposals tonight for bond resolutions for the fire department and I just want to let everybody know that we have many safety issues in the fire department and this addresses many of them. Um, we strongly encourage that all of you uh move forward with the resolutions and pass them tonight as written. Thank you. Thank you. Eric Wisher, the former UFA president. I think as Jeff said, these are

longstanding safety issues that these bonds address and the staffing of Medic 3 uh to provide the proper service to our citizens as well as the safety of our firefighters. Uh I think they're all important. They're long-standing and I think they all need to be addressed tonight to ensure public safety for both the public and the firefighters. Thank you. Does anyone else wish to address the council on any agenda item? [Music] technologically challenged here. My name is Jess. Uh I am a social security employee. I am a local steward for AFG Local 3343 and I'm a delegate of the Troy Area Labor Council. Um, I represent none of those tonight. Um, but I'm here as a constituent to ask you to vote yes and adopt our resolution in support of protecting uh, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. The resolution to us is not about politics. It's about people. And since 1935, Social Security has been the strongest and sometimes the only safeguard uh, against poverty. Today, almost 75 million people receive Social Security benefits. but attacks on federal staffing, cutting corners, uh breaking contracts. This is the behavior that will cut our neighbors off from the help that they desperately need. In our own community, uh one in every five staff members in local social security offices

is a veteran. These aren't faceless bureaucrats. They are trained public servants, people of deep integrity who answer phone calls, file disability claims, and help our elders navigate retirement with dignity. We're witnessing a moral crisis. Disability applicants waiting years to receive decisions. Widows waiting months just to get an appointment to apply for survivor benefits for their children. As public servants, as neighbors, we are called to help and protect the least among us. not just to love our neighbors, but to care for the orphan, for the widow, for the family provider who was too sick or too hurt to provide for their family. This resolution is a statement of that love we have for each other. Voting yes on the resolution is a statement of your alliance with AFGE to support keeping the public services open and available to your constituents. This is a public stand for decency, for mercy, and for justice. So, I urge you to stand with your community, stand with the workers who serve it. Vote yes, and stand with the elderly, the sick, the disabled, and the grieving. Thank you. Thank you. Does anyone else wish to address the council? Seeing none, we'll move along with our agenda. Third ordinance 27,

ordinance amending the city of Troy zoning map to change the zoning district of property known as 74 New Turnpike Road tax map parcel number 70.74-1-1 from single family neighborhood to development intensity to planned development. district. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen with a second by council member Sorento. Discussion on the ordinance. Any discussion? Council member Casey. No, I didn't. You did. You want to speak? No. No. Sorry. Anyone want to say anything? Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Seven eyes, zero nos. Ordinance 28, ordinance amending the 2025 budget by appropriating funding from the general fund unassigned fund balance to the general fund operating budget. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Sorenald. Discussion on the ordinance. President Councilman Vera. Uh, just a few questions for Gabrielle if she's available. Hi. Hi. um unassigned fund balance. What is the dollar amount that we currently have in that in that fund? So there is a

substantial amount of money or sufficient amount for this. Well, just not something that in the budget and 10 million is is that how much money is in that account? Um I can get back to you on that. Okay. But that type of substantial is what you're and you know Andy knows this and other municipalities we we don't like to yell out how much as in it's very very healthy and it's we will contact you. Okay. Will that work? Would you share that with the entire council please? Absolutely. Thank you. Yes. Okay. So, this this is a very small portion of of what we have. Yes. Okay. Um the then I see we're we're we're transferring these funds. I I think the first item is for uh the contract that we have in our agenda this evening. That's correct. Yeah. Okay. And that is a that's going to be an ongoing like that's an annual expense that we'll incur. Yes. Okay. So annually that'll be 87,500 or thereabouts. Um I would have to refer to the contract itself for the the the maximum dollar amount in the contract I've got is 75,000. So this amount here it was like a prrated amount. Okay. Through the end of 2025 what we would need. And then obviously the next transfer for the comproller that's we we just had the conversation with BST. Um, this is to pay for services that have already been rendered or will be in the next two, three months. A combination of both. Okay. And then the overtime transfer, uh, $372,000. Um, is that for overages in overtime or

is that we're anticipating running out of ARPA funding or PE? Yes. Okay. Yep. So that has the potential to become an annual cost as well then if if nothing were to happen with overtime. Well, if you Yeah, bringing it to the 24 hours as well, which is the reason for the increase. And in number four, um hopefully with the additional uh staffing for, you know, uh firefighters, we will not need as much overtime to run the peak ambulance. It will be part of operation. Okay. Okay. And then the the the remaining transfers all relate to the the hiring of four additional firefighters, but that's pr-rated for the rest of the year. Is that correct? Correct. Do you know what the annual cost of those would be? Or can I just double it? Is that close enough? Yeah, you could double it. Yeah, you can. Little less than double. Okay. Uh my next questions would be for the mayor then. Yeah. Uh what what effect do you think this is going to have on the 2026 budget? Yeah. Uh Council Member Vera, which items specifically? Well, all of the transfers that will end up becoming annual costs. So, the transfer for uh the risk management consultant, um fire department overtime, and then the uh all of these salary related line items. I, you know, BST it sounds like uh won't be in the picture next year.

So, yep. Um, you know, like I said earlier, the hiring of the firefighters are intended um to cut the cost of the overtime. Um, I really want to applaud uh Chief Saluchi, Jeff Ward, the UFA, um, Deputy Mayor Sheamus Donley, Gabrielle for really thinking out of the box. Um this certainly was a product of um you know looking long long-term long-term investment and obviously um not just addressing peak ambulance but 24/7 365 days a year for four ambulances. In terms of the budget hit, you know, you will see that obviously once we propose the budget, but um ultimately it won't be the exact cost of what's in this budget because the whole idea hiring the four firefighters is to cut into that OT. Um regarding risk management, another long-term investment. Uh Sheamus, we'll talk about that when we get to that item. Um that's all about training, safety, um really across the board, something that has never been done here in the city. Um really implementing more risk management training um and really enhancing the safety of our workers and ultimately obviously the safety for residents. So um we look at that as an investment and one that will also trim insurance um which Sheamus will talk about because risk management has an impact on our

insurance policy. Um so that does domino together. Um so you know these are looked at as not just you know they're not one shots. We know that they're going to have to be accounted for for 2026 budget. Um, but the good news this will this right here will get us through 2025. When we look at the 2026 budget, we'll be able to look at the total budget and not just certain items which we're doing here. We'll be able to use those for firefighters. Obviously, um, the reason being hiring those is to cut the OT. Um, you'll also see the uniforms. We won't be buying those same uniforms next year. So that will not be a recurring expense expense next year. That will be this year. So you know some of these will be one shots for this year. One one shot hits I want to say in terms of the expenditures and then others obviously accounting for in 2026. Okay. Um, how how do you think this will affect the available funds for union negotiations? The UFA and CSEA are both outstanding. Um, do you anticipate any any negative effects with with that? Not at all. Um, we feel confident CSEA we um are hopeful. Uh there is a tentative um at least uh very preliminary agreement they're going to their members um firefighters um we know uh with the proposal that you're seeing tonight. This obviously will have a positive impact on our negotiations, but in terms of dollars will not have a negative

impact on what we are able to agree or not to agree to. Okay. Thank you. Yep. Thank you. Oh. Uh when can I expect the uh numbers for the unassigned fund balance? You'll email me those in the next Yeah, actually I prefer we can contact each of you. How about that? I in the next in the next day or two or I would say yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Excellent. Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Councilman President. I have a couple questions about um the add the addition of four firefighters. Is that four at a minimum manning? Is that four total firefighters? Is that four firefighters plus the replacements for all the people retiring and leaving? That's four new hires. But it will not impact the minimum manning. That's separate. Something that we would have to negotiate. All right. Is this at the recommendation of the 90-day task force? It came out of the 90-day task force. Um do you know we'll be coming out with a report um in the near future. the task force. Uh we're finalizing some pieces and uh we hope to have that within I would say the next month or so um the final recommendations. But I will say um these were pieces of conversations of the 90-day task force and um I really once again want to give a shout out to um just Sheamus, Jeff Ward, Rich Saluchcci, um Rick, Gabrielle, um the UFA really thinking out of the box and even Eric Wisher. um he got the conversations rolling uh way back when sounding the

horn and um you know this this is really out of the box thinking. Um do also know that the ambulance revenue um that the council bipartisan restructured and increased in terms of our fees um are also accounted and that's obviously something that will also anticipate for 2026. But part of the monies here are also due to the ambulance revenues going up and next year we'll have a whole year of that too. Sir. Uh, okay. Thank you. To add the four new firefighters, is that something that you can do with their current CBA or is there going to have to be a memorandum of agreement? This is uh through March of or March December of 2025. So, what you're seeing um for next year uh we do anticipate some type of MOA. I don't know if that involves the four, but definitely on some other items that we've talked about for 2026. Right. Thank you. Council President Seal, Council Member Casey, you know, there was a time when the way the way we did things uh in the fire department as far as the ambulance worked really well. I know it firsthand. I was there. Uh the way my career worked out, I spent most of my career on an ambulance. Uh but though that time with has passed with the population explosion, the call explosion, and the waiting times at the hospitals, I'm not sure what we would do without medic 3. I don't even think it's possible. We would be in very bad shape. And this is just great that we're getting this done because I don't even think it was a choice at this time. So, it's just great that everybody got together, the uh task

force talking about revenue and the administration making this happen. It's uh it's a good day that we're going to have this fulltime 24 hours a day. Thank you. And if if I could just add, you know, the ambulance crisis, we we know this is not just, you know, something that's hitting Troy. It's hitting the towns in Wensler County, the Capitol region. We see over in Cahose, they're actually contracting with a private uh ambulance company. Um, here in Troy, we're ahead of the curve and what we're displaying tonight and what we've displayed today is a real model and it really shows that we are ahead of the curve and that's because of Gary Fabro, you know, thinking 30 years ago with the cityrun ambulance and now fast forward, we understand, you know, that 30-year-old model has changed the hospital waiting times as council member Casey mentioned the whole um health insurance and and just health care has changed dramatically. So, it's dominoing into our services of ambulance service. So, I really credit all the folks for really thinking creatively on this one. It really was a team effort. I have to say that as we have a meeting tonight with so many fire related issues, it would have been uh to the council's benefit to have had that report in our hands so that we had some context. Um and so I I regret that it's not going to be ready uh in time for us to consider as we consider these. Uh but well, you know, do we'll see it when we see it. Well, on that front, it it's not

ready yet in terms of, you know, not just the report written, but we are still looking at other creative avenues, etc. So, the conversation will never just die. So, that report, yeah, it it's going to be healthy and it's going to give us maybe some out of the box ideas. It's going to rehatch some ideas we already talked about, but the conversation has to and must continue and it won't just end with that report. But saying that, you are seeing one very big item that came out of that task force. And so that's one of many, but the report just isn't ready. The the deadline just closed last week. So you you got to give a little time here. And more importantly, what you're seeing on the agenda really is unrelated to the task force. The firehouse, we have put that on back on track. The apparatuses, it's pretty direct what we're asking the council outside of the medic 3, which you know, we'll talk about fully when we get to that resolution. Again, I think it would have been very helpful for the council to have that information. Uh, any other comments? Councilman Breman. Uh, Mayor, do you know when the new medic will be up and going for the 24 hours? Is it going to be like tomorrow? Oh, yeah. As soon I would say as soon as I get the legislation and sign it, we'll get rolling. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. All in favor? I opposed.

Council President, Council Member McLaren. Um I am going to recuse myself um from the vote on this. Okay. 28 Okay, so that's uh six eyes and one recusal. Ordinance 29, ordinance authorizing the deduction of monies from the general fund, unassigned fund balance, authorizing the creation of a capital project and amending the general fund and capital projects fund to appropriate funding to said project. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Council member Keussion on the ordinance. Council President, Council Member Barrett. Um, just a general question for the administration. These funds are going are are these funds going to be combined with some of the later bond resolutions to purchase some equipment or is this a completely separate project? These are separate from the bond resolution. So, this is for a vehicle that's in addition to the vehicles that are part of the the bond resolutions. Um, yes, these are for Yeah. Um, again, transferring funds from the unassigned fund balance, but these are one-time deals. This is not something that's going to come back annually. Correct. Okay. Council member, if I may, just so I know some of the way the bond resolutions are listed, but those are all for apparatuses, ambulance, not vehicles. Just to be clear, your traditional Oh, these are like SUVs and pickup trucks. That's where other Gotcha. got

Do we have any more detail on that other than just generally pickup trucks? Uh Gabrielle can follow up with uh I know that um the deputy mayor and uh general services commissioner doing a full-fledged fleet um assessment. So and various uh general services and um other departments as you know in 2023 normally um in the capital plan we've budgeted for the upcoming year. We didn't do that in 23, didn't do that in 24. So, we are behind. So, how did we arrive at this number? I guess is is where we're at with this. This is honestly a small ask. Uh, in my mind, my to my knowledge, we need more than this, but this is give us a head start for 2025. Do you have a rough idea of how many vehicles we're talking about? No. So, if this is passed, I mean, we have 200,000. And so we would have to do an assessment through city hall and garage to see what we can purchase with that amount of money. Okay. So you're just asking for the money and you'll buy whatever you can. Correct. Anyone have a any other questions? Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Seven eyes. Zero nos. Ordinance 30, ordinance authorizing the creation of a capital project in the capital projects fund, appropriating funding from the unappropriated fund balance of the water fund for the purpose of said capital project, and amending the water fund and capital projects fund budgets for said capital project. Council member Casey, at the request of the administration, is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second.

I'm sorry, I didn't hear who that was. Council member McLaren. Discussion on ordinance 30. Council President, Councilman Barrow, uh, what is this funding going to be used for? Andrew Golden's going to come up to talk about this item. And I did just want to uh let the council know um the reason we're as you may or may not know in prior years the state controller has weighed in on our audits etc preliminary audit and one of the major recommendations was to look in the budget rather than bond for vehicles. Hence the reasoning to not as much as we can not bond for your everyday pickup trucks, SUVs, etc. So you'll see for larger apparatuses, ambulances that you know does have good PPU and we will bond, but in terms of your everyday vehicles, um the controller strongly recommends looking within the budget. So, um, once again, we'll be getting back on track with the capital plan to get it revolving. Thank you. So, this is for the uh purchase of vehicles for DPU for 2025. This funding here, uh, vehicles and equipment, two backos, a couple utility trucks, one for water, one for sewer. Uh we have two uh GIS technicians now and they don't have a vehicle. Uh they've been borrowing one of the other vehicles from the water plant operators. So they're going to have their own vehicle to do uh like

lead service line inspections and also go out and like take points and do mapping and stuff like that. Uh we've also hired a project supervisor and a vehicle for her as well. Excellent. So very similar to the the last resolution. Yeah, absolutely. Fantastic. Thank you. Any other questions? Thank you, Andrew. Um, all in favor? I I opposed. Ordinance 30 is adopted. 70. Moving on to resolutions. Resolution appointing a commissioner of deeds for the city of Troy. Council President Steel. Do we have a motion? Motion. Council member McLaren. Second. Second. Council member Brazen. Discussion on the resolution. All in favor? I opposed. Adopted 70. Resolution 58, resolution of the city of Troy recognizing Junth. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Do I have a motion? Motion. Council member McLaren. Second. Second. Second. Wow. Lots of seconds. Think you know where that's going. Council, can I just decide who seconded first? Uh, we're going to give it to Council Member Brazen. Uh, discussion on 58. I would like to co-sponsor this resolution. I would as well. I think that's Yeah, I think that's the sentiment of the entire council. So, if you would add everyone to that, please. I I think it's maybe not. Uh I guess I shouldn't speak for the council. Raise your hand if you'd like to co-sponsor this resolution. Okay. Looks like a

we're we're unified in our recognition of Junth. Excellent. Uh any questions, comments? Council President, Council Member McLaren. I'm very proud to be a co-sponsor on this. Um, also very proud that the celebration I despite, you know, I'm sorry about the rain, but I'm glad that it will be held at school, too, which is where I work. Um, so yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Any others? All in favor? I oppose. Resolution 58 adopted unanimously. Resolution 59, resolution of the Troy City Council supporting federal funding for Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security Services. Council member Vera, Council Member Spain. Do I have a motion? I will move this forward. Do I have a second? Second. Council member Vera. Discussion on resolution 59. Council President Steel. Council member Casey, I did reach out to you earlier this week. I had spoken to uh Crystal Delaney, the president. Uh let me get this right. AFG local 3343 who had spoken to us to send some uh legislation and uh I want to apologize. I did reach out to you about this, but there was a lot going on with it, the agenda, and I didn't follow up. I told him that I uh had some issues with some of the language of what he had sent us and he was it was great. It just a little while later he sent me back some legislation that you know I was definitely happy to support and uh that's is uh resolution 78. So I was hoping at this time we could continue the bipartisanship and again I'm sorry I didn't reach out to you

again to follow up on it. I'd like to see if we can get this withdrawn or tabled it tabled it in favor of resolution uh 78 which was written by the president of the union and it was about definitely he was excited about it that it would get uh support and it was about you know the social security staffing and office in in Troy. Sorry. Yes. Council President, Councilwoman M. Councilwoman McLaren. Um before we discuss that, um I would just like to um say that the comments we heard from the ladies who actually do this work every single day. Um reflected this resolution. um that our constituents and people like them throughout our whole country are the ones being um directly affected and impacted by the cuts that are being made. And um I don't think this was a partisan um resolution. I think it's factual. Um what's described in this resolution is exactly what is happening. Um, and I for one don't think it should be changed. Um, I realize that um, Mr. Delaney sent this to you, but I know there was also a followup saying that um, he doesn't believe this was a a partisan resolution. He was willing to change it because it's important enough that it get passed. Um, but I think this version represents the people of Troy who are affected. It affects um it represents our elderly residents. It represents our disabled residents. um our our displaced

residents, our um our our families that are hurt by um you know, whatever life throws their way. Um these are the people who are getting hurt by these policies that are cutting um cutting the benefits and closing the offices. Um so I for one think that we should leave this resolution as it stands. Council President Steel, Council Member Casey, I just want to say we talked about it. I I the the conversation I had with him is that uh of course social security offices are for the most likely uh it's elderly people. They're not into electronics. They're not into the phone. They want to go and speak to somebody. That's what they do. My girlfriend's parents are in their 80s. They drive to everywhere to speak to someone. And that's what we need. Uh I personally have pay more for my car insurance because I want to go speak to somebody. I don't want to do it over the phone. I don't want to do it on computer. I think it's very very important. Now on a broader issue, somebody better cut something or our kids aren't going to have anything. And I think people better start thinking about that. It's not going to be too long where we're not going to be able to take care of anybody. And that that's but that being said, I just have a couple of things. I've tried to say from since I started as council, let's keep it about Troy. Let's keep it local. Let's not try to Let me just point out that the other day in the news, Ski County legislature debated all night on the Halt Act on the state level and they're going to agree to talk. So they're they're all their business the whole night was halt halt halt which has got to do with state prisons. Okay. I'm not trying to get my name in the Times Union. I'm not trying to get my name in the Washington Post or the

New York Times. I'm just trying to do what's right for Troy. I don't want to talk about national issues and what's going on nationally. I I I think we're we're you know, if we want to do that, we're going to spend all our time talking about national issues. We have a full slate of Troy issues here that we're going to be working on and looking into and reading about and doing our due diligence about. But now, let's see. Resolution 59, support of HR1876. So, I got to read all that. 1877 House Bill full text not available just a summary what am I voting on HR700 summary in progress there may be competing bills there are statements made by members of the administration the members of the house seeing as it's just been introduced it's going to be debated the Senate I have to do all that homework for this resolution You know what I want to do? I want to make sure that the union knows we want that social security office open and all around this country and properly staffed. Are we going to sit here every night? I mean, there's plenty of people that have showed up at our meetings that want to talk about national issues. Oh my god, my voice is going to be heard. I want to talk about national issues. So, that's what we're going to do. What is Irene? Would you like to introduce four or five things every meeting to talk about national issues? I bet you would because you seem up on those kind of things. I just think that it's a com It's not in our purview to keep trying to I went to a seminar or I saw this on the national state level. Let's talk about this. I'm concerned about this. Let's talk. We have enough Troy issues right here that we're supposed to make

sure we make the right decision on. and do our homework on. But now we're going to start talking about our own personal little issues. Resolution 78 addresses exactly what this union wanted and that the majority and hopefully I'm sure everybody fully supports. So I'm going to be voting no. I think maybe we'll even table it. I'm not sure. 59. Council President, Council Member McLaren, I would just like to point out um that Junth that we all just voted on is a national initiative and we were happy to proclaim Junth in the city of Troy modeling it after a national day of recognition, a a federal holiday. Now, Council President, thank you, Council Member Sorento. So, I uh I have a statement here that I would like to address to council president and my fellow council members. With all due respect, I find this resolution to be a strategic distraction to keep our focus away from actually doing business on the local level and of topics that have a direct impact on our small city businesses, taxpayers, and the residents of Troy. There is absolutely no backup to support this resolution, which convinces me to believe that the information in this resolution may be based on certain people's opinions and assumptions. Where is the supporting documentation on these drastic cuts to American citizens that are being claimed? And why is this resolution necessary for us to vote on it, let alone vote on it now? Is it because it's an election year for certain candidates? We were elected to make sure that the Troy taxpayers receive the best and most services for the taxes they pay. As my

chiropractor would say regarding taking Advil liquid gel versus taking my Advil, more bang for your buck. As a city council member of almost four years, I can blatantly tell you that I have no teeth in what happens at the federal level. Neither do you, I imagine. But we are part of a crucial role at what happens in our city and be a part of the foundation of building our city to a better future. Correct. For our family, our children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and friends. I am looking out for the future of you all in our city. We should all be looking out for the future of the residents in our city. The votes I made before tonight and for the rest of my term are based on what I believe would positively impact our residents, taxpayers, local businesses, and the future of our city. I am hopeful that my colleagues have the same vision as well since we are here to represent in its in its entirety to Troy. Thank you. Thank you, Council President. Council member McLaren as the only member of the minority who is actually running for reelection. I'm not sure if that was directed at me. Um, however, I would just like to make the statement that our country was begun by cities. It was built city by city into states into what we know now. So, what happens at a national level absolutely affects our cities somehow. Um, and I think it's shortsighted to think that just focusing on Troy is in the best interests of the citizens of Troy. I think we have to look at national trends. I think it's important for us to look at what is happening in our country and make sure that what's happening in Troy is what's best for the

citizens of Troy. I don't think leaving this language in this resolution takes away from its validity at all. I think it adds to it because I think it strengthens it. Um and if the House and the Senate are working on a bill that says exactly this, um I I don't know how we can go wrong. Thank you. Thank you, Council President Steel. Council member Casey. Well, I have to say there is talk of Medicaid cuts and Medicare cuts. One side says you're going to be hurting these people. The other side said these people say shouldn't be on it. There's all competing. We haven't heard the Senate. We haven't heard the executive branch. So, what exactly are we condemning here? We don't even know what we're condemning. Again, I will point out that somebody better start thinking that we're spending 25% of our budget on debt service and it's more the entire military. We're spending more than we did when we shut it down the country and funded it during CO. Okay? The crash is coming and you're going to destroy your children's future. And guess what? We're not going to be helping anybody. And you know why nobody wants to cut it? Republicans and Democrats? Because we the people, and you saw this over the last couple of months, don't want anything cut. We're outraged when anything's cut. At least somebody's trying to do something or we have no future. Again, getting back, we don't know exactly what these Medicare cuts are. How can we say as a council we support any of this or against any of it when we don't know the final product? We have no idea. We're blanket saying I'm against

all these cuts. What if they're good cuts? We don't know that. And that's going to take a little more time and it would take a lot of our time. Write your congressman. So, thank you. Uh, Council President Steel, Council Member McLaren. Um I would just like to read one of the um statements in resolution 78 which says that this body opposes cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security benefits. Same exact wording as resolution 59. Right. Exactly. Um so if we're not talking if we're only talking about Troy and we're not talking about national, then why are we pounding the table talking about making national about making cuts somewhere, that somebody's got to make cuts. The point of this resolution is to let people above us know that we oppose cuts to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and that we oppose closing local offices so that our residents, our constituents, our families still have access to those offices and to those services and benefits. It's that simple. Most of the wording is the same. Yep. Exactly. Thank you. I We'll move this. Council President. Council member Rosen. If you read resolution 59 and resolution 78, they're almost word for word. There's only three lines that were cut, right? Uh the three lines were under the under the blanket blanket blah blah I apologize. It was under the blanket statement of these cuts were going straight into the pockets of

billionaires. That's the only lines being cut. We're still supporting not cutting anything from social security, Medicare or Medicaid. It's just that one snippet of line that got Thank you. That's it. That's the only council president. Councilman Barry, just very briefly. 45 minutes. Um, time. He wasn't even done. Oh, I apologize. I thought you were done. That's why I was still talking. I said, "Are you done? I thought you said yes." Please continue. My apologies. By by all means. The final point I was saying is we're arguing for 20 minutes now for three lines that don't change the overall sentiment of what we're voting on is just this is a ridiculous thing to fight about. Exactly. Either way, Council President, again, apologies. I didn't realize you didn't understand. Yeah. The the only thing I would uh I would say is that uh you know while I can understand uh where Councilman Casey is coming from uh that you know this body is a local governing body um legislative body and you know we we we don't have as much of an impact at the federal or state level as we'd like to. Certainly things that happen at the federal and state level have an impact to our residents here. Uh this is not the first urging resolution that this body has passed nor do I think it will be the last. Um, you know, I while I think the language that was included in in in my in um Council Member uh Spain McLaren's version of the bill is is sufficient, um, I have no objection to uh supporting uh Mr. Casey's uh resolution. Um, but I but I do think that urging resolutions serve a purpose. Um, and I I believe everyone shares that opinion seeing as you introduced your own version. Thank you. Okay. Can we move on with the vote? Um,

I know I myself uh stand behind the union that requested this and the individuals who spoke this evening. All in favor? I opposed. No. Resolution is defeated. Moving on to resolution 60. Resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract with the Boys and Girls Club of the Capitol Area, Inc. for the purpose of providing trained personnel to administer and operate the South Troy pool facility through September 1st, 2025. Council member Casey, Council President Steel at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Member Barzn. Second. Member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted unanimously. Resolution 61. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Florn. Second. Second. Council member Farah. Discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Resolution 61 is adopted. 70 resolution 62 bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 350,000 serial bonds to finance the purchase of an ambulance. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Sorento with a

second by council member Rosn. Discussion. Council president. Councilman Barrett. Is there somebody from the administration that can speak to this specifically the uh um well I guess a number of questions but some relating to the financing itself and others relating to the purpose. Um for for hi uh for starters that this 350,000 this was part of the capital plan that was published with the 2025 budget. Correct. This was like I think specifically a line item that was in there. Uh correct. like you know in the in the back where that capital plan is that's a bit of a road map but this is uh this would actually ultimately end up funding it once we get those brown proceeds and can appropriate it for that ambulance. Okay. And then this is for this is for the ambulance. Is that also correct? 350. Yeah. Okay. Um and the current piece of equipment that this is replacing is is how old? I think I have that somewhere. So it's 10 years old. It's Yeah, it's a 2015. So, what would this this would be uh new medic 3? Uh earlier this year, we had an ambulance that a motor blew on. Uh it wasn't worth repairing, so we're technically down an ambulance. Um that ambulance was medic 3, which was a spare ambulance and moved into the medic 3 role. Uh currently, right now, medic 3 is medic 14, which is a 10-year-old ambulance. So, our intent would be replace medic 3 with a new ambulance, and then that medic 14 reser would move

back into the reserve role. So this is critical to to establishing that the level of of service that we were discussing earlier. Correct. Yes. Okay. Um the financial question is you know will we be financing this over 10 years and roughly what is the impact to the to the budget that that would have? Um I can get you those exact numbers and even if um kind of all of the the bonding and and what how that nestly will uh impact that depth service fund. I do think a couple things are worth noting that um you know since 2024 and I think even back into 2023 gearing up for the 2024 budget not a lot uh if if any uh equipment has been bonded for except for I want to say a a fire apparatus that we got uh last year a pumper. Yes. So um like it was noted earlier too. I mean, this is when you put it all together, the uh the four firefighters, the peak ambulance for this year, the commitment from the administration, I hope in the future, the council to fund that 24 uh 247 service, the firehouse that's coming up, all of that. I mean, we're talking about a, you know, upwards of $16 million investment into the fire department over the next coming years, which is just desperately needed to continue and improve upon the services that we're providing our residents, taxpayers. So, I I not necessarily as it relates to this resolution, but as it relates to some of the other um items that are going to come before us this evening. Um, I think that those debt service numbers I think I requested those last week on Tuesday or Wednesday. Was that in your your email? Okay. And you know, I I worked up my own estimates, but I would I think those numbers are are critical for us to make determinations. Um, again, not necessarily about this particular item, but I'm looking forward to the next uh half dozen eight

resolutions that we have. um you know, combined total taking paving out, which we know is reimburseable. Y we're looking at $17.6 million in in spending. Um 16.1 for the fire department and then another 1.5 million for um that's the Eddie Eddie Eddie's Foundation, right? um given the terms uh probable useful life or whatever that that is assuming we're financing for that I'm I'm getting a debt service estimate of of a million dollars. So that that's another a further million dollars that has to come out of our budget annually. And this is all general fund stuff, right? Or at least all the fire department stuff. Fire department stuff is out of that general fund. Yes. And I I think what I you know we have just the to give the public and the council gearing up to go bonding outside of uh consulting our bond council on the legality of things. We do have fiscal adviserss that we go over these buckets of funds and what we're going to do and uh does it fit does it make sense for our portfolio? What have we done? What are we going to do in the future? Like I noted earlier too, the fact that we have been uh which is not a bad thing, light on some of the bonding over the past several years. Now it's time to make that crucial investment. I would want to get you more of an exact breakdown from fiscal adviserss that can work up those schedules and things. I did answer all the questions your email. I apologize. I did not uh that was one out of the 15 I think I missed. But um so I can definitely get you that. But another thing too, you're authorizing this stuff, say like the fire, the Lancingberg firehouse, and although of course that won't have a that will have a future cost. This is a project that's going to be, you know, come to fruition over the next two 2 and 1/2 years, you know, so we're not necessarily bonding for the 12.5 million when we go into July. I would just rather give you an accurate picture of what it looks like. I do understand for you, you'd like to

see that when you to vote on this. Um, I thought think you'd acknowledge too though when we're talking about, you know, not having an ambulance, having, you know, a rescue squad that needs a repair. We have three years wait time. I mean, I know one of your requests was even some information on the old firehouse. I believe the station one, well, the soon hopefully to be old one. I mean, all you have to do is just walk in there. You don't even need a full engineers report to see what in dire terrible need we are to switch out of there. 1960s, I think, built to last 20-ish years. I mean, it's, you know, it's now 50 years old. When you talk about Eddie's Pump Lane, just to hit that, too. We're talking about something that could affect 110,000 uh water recipients, fire service, again, has not really been repaired except for some of the repairs we've done uh within the past year since the 60s. So, we are, you know, take it very serious when we're spending money bonding. Um, but I think we would acknowledge too if we're going to rank, you know, crucial needs, these are very serious, very serious needs. Um, and I just don't want to misspeak with, you know, consulting fiscal adviserss who can come up with the breakdown. You're looking understood. And I'm prepared to move forward with a number of these um this evening. But I I do have um concerns that that may be alleviated with that additional information. I'm sure we have uh bonds that are um would the phrase be matured, right? Where we're almost done paying them off. Retiring is that the is that the phrase? We retire bonds. Yeah, you retire bonds. Okay. So we have some bonds that that retirees and and if those you know if if you could show me over the next three years that we have some bonds that are retiring and that offsets these costs that's a different that's a different thing but I mean you know again an extra

million dollars we when I I can't remember the number but the one of the first ordinances we did has somewhere between a half million to threequarters of a million um dollar hit to the annual budget. Now, now you're now we're adding again if all of these were to be approved an additional million from your calculation from my calcul and admittedly I'm not a controller uh or a lawyer but um you know I did request that data and I think it would be helpful to council members making decisions this evening to have that. So I and unfortunately I don't have that information to provide you this evening. Um, that is something that I can get you because that's something that uh in consultation with fiscal adviserss they work up before we get to bonding. We have a lot of uh long and healthy conversations with them about how much we're doing, where does that stand, what, you know, does this push it in a certain threshold? How does this affect future budgeting? I do know I think one thing I've seen across the board politically up there including the minority there's been a lot of statements of getting you know supporting our fire department a lot of statements about uh the disrepair of Lancingberg firehouse a lot of statements about the staffing um and the equipment uh you know I mean one of the things you're going to entertain here is radios we don't want radios having indoor problems when our firefighters are fighting fires so of course we always have to be fiscally responsible and that's key with us. But I think you would acknowledge voting no to most of these firefighter ones. We're talking about really taking a dent in our public safety, which kind of contradicts what I've heard from everybody across the board here, you know, across the political line. So, I'd really urge you uh to support all of them tonight. And thank you. Yeah. And to be clear, I'm not suggesting that any of this is fiscally irresponsible. What I'm suggesting is we don't have the information to make that determination. Right. You don't have the breakdown of

the future. And it's not just the debt service for what's in front of us this evening. If bonds are retiring in the next two years, three years that you know, then that means that means that we're not taking the hit. Especially like you said, you know, the uh bonding for station one, you know, we might not start making debt service payments until 2, three years from now on that. So again, if you have our existing debt service schedule and you can show that, you know, that's going to decrease by a million dollars over the next three years, well then there's no question that this is fiscally responsible, right? We're not taking a hit on the budget. I totally understand the information that you're requesting and I wish that it was provided for you on your ask. Like I said, that was one of the 15 questions I think that I somehow missed. I answered all the rest of them. You did and you did it in a timely manner. And um you know we want you to have the information especially on these crucial topics. But when we're talking to our fiscal adviserss those are things from fiscal adviserss that advise us financially those are things they take in account too. That's why we pay them as that as that. So as much as you don't have that exact schedule in front of you, please know that there's thorough conversations and meetings discussing this bonding relative to our total debt portfolio. I'm glad to hear that the people advising us have that information. I'd like to have it, too. Yes. And you deserve to have it. But I I guess I guess what Sheamus is saying is that fiscal advisors is closely aligned with the city of Troy and keeping us uh solvent and having and is aware of our ability to pay. They have not red flagged these resolutions. On on the contrary, I think they've supported them. So, um, I just want I just want to say that I mean if they if they had seen anything, they would have red flagged it, but that's still you're still entitled to the information. Thank you. Thank you.

Anyone else? Council President Seal, Council Member Casey, that's a good point, Councilman Vera. I think we we should get which ones are getting paid up just so we get a bigger greater picture. That's definitely uh good information. I just want to say as a whole, not just about the ambulances, but the other equipment we're we're we're talking about tonight, you know, firefighters, uh, you know, when you don't have the proper equipment, which I live through, Chief Sluchi lived through when the city was broke. We had some pretty bad equipment. And, you know, firefighters can get injured or even lose their lives. Somewhere around there's a probationary shield floating around that's burned and bubbled and used to this day. That was my helmet and it wasn't good and it was because of the equipment and it was so out of date and so bad. So, uh, you know, you can't operate a fire department with old equipment. You just can't. It's not like DPU. It's trucks. It's not like uh you know garbage trucks maybe you could get through. This is real life and death stuff. So I'm so glad that since uh we've been on the council, a lot of us that we've really made an effort to make sure that this fire department has had the best equipment they can get. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay. All in favor? I I oppose. Council President, I'm I'm going to recuse from this. Okay. Do we need a reason? Don't we need a

reason? No. No. My son is a candidate for the Troy Fire Department and to avoid the um appearance of any uh impropriy appearance of impropriy. Yes. Thank you. Wasn't necessary but thank you. Mhm. Um so we have 62 has been adopted. Six eyes, one recusal. Resolution 63, resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a mo motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Casey. That was Vera. Sor that was Vera or Sorento. I think sorry. Okay, we'll say sorry to that. I heard it coming from over there. Um discussion on 63. All in favor? I opposed resolution is adopted unanimously. 64 bond resolution of the city of Tor New York authorizing the issue of 1.9 million serial bonds to finance the purchase of fire rescue vehicle and apparatus. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Keel. Discussion. Council President. Council member Barrett. Th this is this is one of the one of the bonds given the amount and the uh the term length um and the potential debt service um that I'm I'm not comfortable voting on this

evening without the information that I had requested. Reiterate our support for it again too. Keep in mind that these rescue squads, it's and then the chief uh let the chief speak more on to it. More knowledgeable is one of the most specialized piece of equipment that we have in the fire department if not the whole entire city frankly. Uh can take upwards of three years for them to come in. Uh they have one of the longest run times as well. And um if the chief could just explain exactly what this apparatus is. Certainly. Um this is a a rescue pumper. Um it's a it's a uh little more than a normal pumper. It it has all the capabilities of a pumper, but also has rescue capabilities, specialized unit, carries our vehic vehicle extrication equipment, our high and low angle rope rescue, water rescue, um some hazardous materials and such. So, it's um it's a specialized vehicle. Right now, we currently have a 2016 uh which is by city of Troy standards not so bad. Uh however, our our backup to that, and we only have one backup to that vehicle, is a 2003. Councilman Casey was there when we got that through uh Senator Joe Bruno and Distress Cities Fund. So, it's a 2003. So, as the deputy mayor said, uh it's going to take approximately two and a half, probably a little more than two years from once we sign on. So, two and a half to three years to get the vehicle in. So we're looking at 2028 of which that point it will be 25 years old and probably older than 30% of the department at that time. So uh it's it's a it's crucial piece of apparatus that we would need to move on sooner rather than later. Thank you chief council. Any other comments?

I'm sorry. Is there something you want to add? Just that uh the payment schedule this for this apparatus would not begin until 3 years from now till we take delivery of it. Okay. Any other questions? All in favor? I I abstain abstain and recusal. So it's four eyes, two abstensions, and one recusal. Yes. Right. Resolution 65, resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act, Council Gase, at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Councilman Brosman. Second. Second. Discussion. All in favor? I I opposed. Resolution 65 is adopted unanimously. Resolution 66, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of $600,000 serial bonds to finance the purchase of firefighting apparatus. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Council member Sorento with a second by council member Brazen. Discussion. Council president. Councilman Barrett. This is for the the radios, correct? Correct. Okay. Um and this is to acquire the same system that Troy PD uses to work off the same 800 system that Troy police currently have in place. Um I had

heard a story that on a recent maybe it was a recent call, maybe you can elaborate on this, that the current radio that the fire department has, they they weren't working. Firefighters use their own personal cell phones. Is that No, we No, we we did have a failure of our system a few weeks back for a little over 36 hours or so. We do have a contingency plan in place which we use our utilize the county 800 system. Okay. Which is not ideal for our situation which is why we're we're proposing this. Okay. Any other questions, comments? All in favor? I I opposed. Recuse. We have six eyes and one recusal. Resolution 67. Resolution determining the pro proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Member Brazen with a second by Council Member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I I oppose. Adopted unanimously. Resolution 68, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of $650,000 serial bonds to finance the fire department building improvements by council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Sorento. Discussion. Council President Barrett. Yeah. Can someone give us a brief overview of the improvements that we're talking about? I noticed the city engineer is here. I

don't know if uh he's available to only because I I saw his name on the memo. Okay. Uh so it it's uh it's $650,000 for uh stations 2, three, four, and five. And then there is a there is a a resolution later on for $100,000 and that's specifically for station six that has to do with the type of building it is. Correct. So uh we have some uh significant needs um up at uh headquarters for instance on on uh 6th Avenue. Our concrete apron in the front. We've talked about this last year. that's uh that's in pretty uh rough shape. So, we'll be looking to replace that. Uh, additionally, station three out on Campbell Avenue, that has uh not as bad um as the apron issue, but still has an apron issue that we we want to we want to get that fixed. Oh, even with the the the bridge project, we didn't uh we didn't Right. Or closer to the building. Yes. Closer to the building. Yes. Uh and then also, so we have station 4 and headquarters. a significant amount of repointing and masonry work that needs to be done in their station 4 with the heavy rains that we had just a couple weeks ago. We had having some of the plaster come down and due to water leakage in one of the uh bunk rooms upstairs. So, we just need to get into some uh some repointing and masonry work there as well as uh some some uh lesser masonry work at headquarters. Couple leaks there with the brick and masonry. Um, so that's that's kind of where where it stands. Mr. Marini, did we get an estimate on any of this work at this point or like what what's your level of involvement been on on these items? Yeah, my level of invol involvement has been visiting each of these buildings personally agreeing with the scope of work that the

chief just suggested. And my understanding is that the former city engineer Russ Reeves uh solicited quotes for this work, but we haven't gotten updated quotes yet. We do plan to as an output this work out through request for a bid. So, um just so I don't have to pull you up here again, um for this bond and then the $100,000 for the apron at station 6, you think this is a healthy budget? Sorry, headquarters. Uh yeah, headquarters is the apron. Station six is a separate bond and that's for a significant amount of repointings masonry work there. We did uh two three years ago put almost a million dollars into station 6 down on Canal Avenue for the foundation and floor and u we don't want the bricks to fall on that nice floor. Okay. But nonetheless, a healthy budget for for both of these uh the building improvement bonds. Yes. Excellent. Any other questions? All in favor? I recuse. Six eyes, one refusal. Resolution padopted. Resolution 69, resolution determining the proposed action as a type two action for the purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Motion. Council member Sorento with a second by council member Brazen. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Resolutions adopted unanimously. Resolution 70, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 7,400 7,400,000 serial bonds to finance the reconstruction of various streets in the city. Council member Casey at the

request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Sorento with a second by council member Brazman. Discussion. Council president. Council member Vera. You do you have the uh the chips budget number like off the top of your head? It is a fraction. It is. I honestly it's like 7 million the Oh, you're talking about the small. Yeah. what we're sitting on for chips state touring routes EWR New York pave uh I don't know pop the remaining balance yeah this is this isn't it's it's got to be more than this right I can yes I can okay that I can give to you by the end of the next meeting if you want and then obviously this is reimburseable with several months of lag right correct it's reimburseable y and these the intention that those bonds get paid off with reimbursement Right. In other words, we're not going to be financing 7.4 million for uh 15 years. Correct. Right. Questions? All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted unanimous. Resolution 71, resolution determining that the proposed action is a type two action for the purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act, Council Member Casey, at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brosman. Second. Second. Councilman Barra. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted unanimously. Resolution 72, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 1.5 million serial bonds to finance the cost of the reconstruction of the city water supply or distribution system. Council member Casey at the

request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Sorento. discussion bring up. Yeah. Can we Yeah. get a presentation? Yeah. You You can call whatever you want. Andrew, I know. I could try something, but tell us tell us why we're spending 1.5 million. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Uh that'll be an easy one. This is on, right? All right. Uh so we'd like to get another uh pump and motor assembly at Eddie's Lane Pump Station. Uh the large like workhorse pump and motor unit we have is a Alice Chomers. It's a absolute unit, but it's from 1966. Uh and that provides all the water to the Tibet have tank and into the upper high service area. So uh we're going to purchase another one of those and install it with your blessing. And uh from the rough estimates I've gotten that can be around 700 $800,000 for that unit. And then, you know, installation cost. It's uh 4,160 volt motor. So, we probably won't be installing it in house. We'll probably get like a qualified electrical outfit. You know, maybe Ryan stopped out. I don't know. Uh so, that's part of it. Uh and the lead time on that, it's it's about eight months uh once you order it to get that in. Uh as well as the uh I'd like to install bypass piping in case there's an emergency in the pump station. will have a second inlet and outlet for water in the pump station. We'll be able to use temporary, you know, diesel bypass pumps outside while some of that work's taking place. Uh so, you know, there'll be a significant amount of excavation and uh you know, we'll have to get wise and valves and all sorts of stuff to install for that. Uh, let's see. The, uh, 30-inch inlet pipe, the original inlet pipe that we're

using now, the one that has the corrosion on it from the emergency declaration that we saw last year, uh, to get a final structural repair for that. And, uh, that'll also come into play with that bypass piping. It'll be helpful to have that while we're doing the repair work on the uh, on the current inlet pipe. And uh the rest of like the remaining funds will be for you know pipes, valves, uh diesel fuel and the temporary pump rental while all that work is taking place. Now what what if any work has taken place since uh I think it was back in what January of last year we the emergency was declared. Have any expenditures taken place? Yes. Yes. So, we uh we purchased a 10-in and 12-in uh rotary cone valve, two of them from Ross Valve. Those were forged and uh delivered and they've been installed. So, that part's in, you know, healthy shape right now. Two of the four pumps. And then this money would be for uh some of the stuff for the other two. Uh what do those valves allow you to do? Like isolate the system if it So, when the motor when the motor kicks on, uh we want like a slow we don't have soft start motors. They're just a single stage motor. It just cranks right up to, you know, 3,000 RPM or whatever. And uh to allow for us not to have any like water hammer related issues, the rotating cone valve slowly adjusts into like its pressure zone. Sure. So essentially just the valve pops out and it rotates slowly over about a minute and a half to full open and uh then hopefully less things blow up out in our distribution system. So then this is like the first large expenditure then or certainly the largest expenditure up there. This new uh the new motor and pump you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be the largest expenditure. Yes.

Thank you. Are you done? Almost done. Okay. Any other questions? Okay. Thank you, Andrew. You're welcome. Thank you. All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted unanimously. 70. Resolution 73. Resolution determining that the proposed construction of a new firehouse or a new fire station building will not have a significant effect on the environment. Council member Casey, Council Member Keel, at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I resolution is adopted unanimously. 70. Resolution 74, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 12 a.5 million serial bonds to dis finance the construction of a new fire station building. Council member Casey, Council Member Keel at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member B. Second. Second by Council Member Sorento. Discussion on the resolution. Council President Steel. Council member Casey. We heard from uh administration that uh the financial people and the bond people had looked at these bonds and I realized we don't have all the information, but they said there was no red flags. Let me tell you something. I walked into this firehouse in 1994, early 1994. It should have been torn down then. This is another example of throwaway horrible '7s architecture like the old city hall that was basically a parking garage with carpet. This place was some of the heating systems were

replaced almost immediately. It looks like some kind of a moon station. the, you know, it was just constant problems with sewage and everything. And now there's even more problems. This place is falling apart. There's no saving it. It should have been gone at least 20 years ago. So, you know, this is just a big big step. We haven't had a new firehouse since the central station, which was a really long time ago. We really need to replace this. They people should not have to work in this environment. They have to come there. They have to spend 24 hours in this firehouse. And I urge anybody who wants to to take a look at this building. Just take a walk through. I'm sure somebody will show you. Nobody should be working in these conditions. So, we need this firehouse. We need to build a new firehouse in Lancingburg. Thank you very much, Council President. Council member Brosman. The Berg definitely needs this. Um, more specifically, the firefighters who are putting their life on the line every day need this. Uh, there's currently, unless unless something got fixed, there's no air conditioning. And every time there it rains, they have a beautiful water feature that runs right through their barracks, which is very comforting for some. Probably not the people who just spend 12 hours fighting a fire and need a place to sleep. So, yeah, this one should probably get passed. Council present. Council member Ke. uh this building even when it was constructed it wasn't constructed with the idea of having ambulance service in mind. So uh the the the setup is just not conducive to operating properly in and having both a fire station and ambulance service and working both the vehicles. It just doesn't work. This this is not

uh it's not good for Troy anymore. if we're going to continue to have ambulance service along with our uh fire department. Thank you. Thank you, Council President. Council member Serient, I want to echo on Council Member Brazen Ke um I have I have um heard from several fire uh firefighters um that station over there. It is in deplorable condition. And if Pesh ever came in um and and assessed the assess the the work site, the uh firehouse, we'd probably um have some serious violations. And if those Hello. If those violations do not get addressed from PES um within a reasonable amount of time, you get fined. And these are most likely serious violations. you get fined per day on it. So, I highly recommend um I mean I I really encourage um us unanimously vote in favor of a new fire station that these firemen so and women uh so desperately need. Um, and also let's be proactive rather than reactive and avoid any violations if Pesh comes in and does a does a full-blown assessment on this building. Thank you. Thank you, Council President. Councilman Vero. Uh, I agree with my uh my colleagues. I think that this fire station needs to be um needs to be replaced. I I worked uh when I was the city engineer um with the now chief a little bit on the scoping of this new station. I don't know that it was located at this same spot, was it? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Nonetheless, I know it's been in the

works for for years and it's needed. Um but but but again um I have to I have to bring up the uh the amount of this bond and without the information that uh that was requested um I think it's difficult for us to fully assess uh the financial impact of this. Um again if if if the data exists to show that that the city can afford this uh I welcome that. That's that's fantastic news. Um but that information should have been shared with the council and thank you. Are you done? I am. Okay. And furthermore, um as far as my position, uh I am on record as definitely being in support of of a new firehouse. We know that uh the existing one is unsafe. Our firefighters deserve it. Um, however, we we were elected by the people to be the stewards of the finances here and it's our fiduciary responsibility to know the details and we don't know the details. We don't know where 12.5 million. Show us the budget. Show us show us where you arrived at this number and it might be a different story. So we can council president a couple things. One, I think it's a little bit disingenuous to say that you support this project and that support the fire department by that voting at no. I do just want to make it clear for I respectfully disagree and I would respectfully ask that you let me finish my statement please. I so just like you were elected to have responsibility. Our mayor was overwhelmingly elected as well to have financial responsibility which we oversee every single day there. Also, you know, at some point you are here to do your diligence. We totally get that.

And in all fairness, uh, Councilman Barrett did request this. It was a miss in his, uh, you know, 15 questions of asks. That being said, I just do want it to be clear for the public that type of schedule is not something that always comes over with any type of bonding. That's not something that Andy would produce back then. So, I do want it to be clear that you're not necessarily missing something. I'm sure there's council members, especially you, Council President, that have voted for many of Bond without this schedule. Again, it is your right for all the information, Councilman Bar. I really do get that. But what we'd like to employ to all of you here is that, you know, we can I have our architect from LeBella that's been working on this, our fire chief, our city engineer that involved um a budget. you are more than happy to get any of that information here in the administration. We're not just pulling numbers out of thin air. This is a long process. Again, Councilman Barry, you noted that as the part-time city engineer, you were involved in the beginning of this pro project at some other site and some other time. We're very proud to be the ones that are reviving it and bringing it back so it gets done. you're just doing a disservice to not only the Second Avenue corridor that could use this as a an economic development catalyst, but our firefighters that fight every day. I just quite frankly think it's easy to put something out on Facebook that you support certain folks and then not actually do it with your actions. And I just I think you need to be respectful. I'm being honest. Thank you. Thank you. If I may, council uh president, a couple things. I sat in your shoes for eight years, council president. You were also a part of the council. Andy did not provide a debt service overview every time the bonds came before the council. In fact, Andy provided it after because what you're doing tonight is authorizing

the issuance. We aren't going to the bond market for $12.5 million. The 1.9 obviously we have to go to bond for that because we're ordering the apparatus. That's different than this. stating that you're not going to even if you get that debt overview, you're not going to get a 12.5 mil because we're not going to issue 12 1.5 mil immediately. So the first we obviously have to finalize the preliminary drawings. Then we have to prepare the construction bids. at most this year will probably go to the bond market for a million and a half or a or a mill half a mill or a mill. So saying that and that's why we brought Labella who will talk about the timeline and talk about the firehouse. But you know I I I thank the deputy mayor because we literally a have not bonded in my administration only for one item or two items that were on the capital plan from two years ago. B. You're not going to get a debt overview for the close to 171 18 mil. You're going to get an overview for what we issue which an Andy would give at the end of the year or twice a year after we bond it. So saying that what you're doing tonight is authorizing because that's how it's done. We're not going to come back to the council three different times for three different bond issuances or authorizations because that will also cost the city more money because every

time you go to bond it costs more money. So saying that we're only going to issue what we need for that project just like um any type of major construction the congress and ferry council member Vera you're aware you authorize the issuance we did not issue that total 11 mil so what we're asking the council tonight is the authorization we will get you your death overview just like Andrew from financial advisors. He stated, "We didn't do this in the past and council president, you were on the council and didn't demand that debt overview in the past, but you authorize the issuance of bonding and we will get you that debt overview, but that debt overview is not going to have give you that information tonight because we're not issuing 12 and a half. We're not issuing those full bonds. So, I would just ask the council just if you don't support it, just say I don't support it, but don't give I abstain or whatever. You have that right. And and I'm not being mean. Council member um Spain McLaren, your your son being a candidate is not a conflict of interest. I have a nephew. I have a nephew who is literally a police sergeant. I voted for the contracts and I asked for an opinion from corporation council, which really should have been asked prior to this, but that's your prerogative. All I'm asking, we need that fifth vote. Firehouse is from the 1970s. Come on, man. And the 1.9 mil

Senator Bruno, majority leader, got us that rig in 20, I believe 10. So, it's 15 years old. In fact, Eric Wisher has a picture. It was broken down last week. So, we're asking for needed capital, equipment, long-term investment, and I just ask the council to rethink their vote, please. That's all. Council President. Council member. Yeah, unlike Congress ferry um or the or the the the bonding for paving uh which are reimburseable, this is not the city takes on this debt and um I can't speak to other sessions of of the council. I wasn't I wasn't there for that. Um I'm not looking for the actual exact figures here. I'm looking for a good faith estimate of what the impact of this is going to have on the budget. Uh, I'm not voting no this evening because I'm not against either of these uh purchases. I'm not against purchasing a vehicle for 1.9 million. I'm not I'm certainly not against replacing uh station one for 12.5 million. Um I do however have to abstain because I don't have the information that I requested. Uh and that's not on me. Council President, Councilman Ke um like to ask the administration if it is possible to obtain a a little bit of that information for an overview for us here this evening. Uh Council Member Ke at quarter of 9:00 at night. Unfortunately, no. Um, you know, and I would just like to point out again, if we really cared about the project, if you really want to say no while staring at other firefighters that serve in that dilapitated, falling apart house, why not ask? We have an architect here that came in from Rochester to talk about the project. You're not asking

that at all. You're not asking about it. This is clearly a construed political point that you're all trying to make. And I would hope I would hope that you'd put politics aside because a rec recusal and an abstension are clearly a copout vote and I'd really hope that you'd put that aside for the betterness of our fire department. It's a great project and it's just it it's a project we don't know anything about. That's that's unfair and untrue. So which is it? You were part of it in the beginning or now you don't know anything about it. Please try to here with estimates and all types of questions. I understand council president. I'm actually the deputy mayor, but and and again, I'm up here to speak on behalf of the administration and the residents that put us here. I did not just fall out of the sky. I'm sorry that we're passionate about this project because it is crucial for our fire department and that corridor. And I really hope that you could put these political feelings aside and vote with what's right for the fire department. First of all, I want to commend Council Member McLaren for for her ethics and I think this is this attack is totally unnecessary. Um, we are elected to do our job and we are doing our job. We are doing it. We are asking questions. We were given this legislation seven days seven days ago, right? over a weekend and um and misinformation. Sorry. Pretty soon you're going to have to leave the room, Sheamus. I I really think you you're out of line. Um I I would request uh the engineer who drove from Rochester. No one No one introduced him. No one mentioned he was here. I'm glad if you allowed us he he is here and if you

allowed us to speak he would love to talk about the project welcome to Troy hear me okay welcome to well I'm thankful to be here and I see the you know there's a lot of angst uh in the room but my name is Dan Peters. I'm an architect with Lebella Associates. I've been working on this job on and off for about three or so years. Did start some work uh on this with Aaron um a while back and we did have a couple different options back then. We did land on this site we're currently on right now because it made the most sense. There are response times that have to be met. Um as you build a new station that makes sense. uh as you determine its location and you have the ability to do that, you want to be able to better your response times. That's the whole point. Um and obviously it goes without, you know, saying that the reason this station is developed and we were pulled in to help develop it is because it's needed. Um we're not here to spend people's money unless there's a, you know, huge need to have it unfold. Um the dynamics of the station are topnotch. Uh as we've laid this out, we do a lot of stations across New York State and up and down the eastern seabboard. I've personally been involved with probably four dozen different fire stations in the last 15 years. So I know the ins and outs of them. We have a team that's dedicated to do these station types, which we call essential facilities, of which we've laid out here. It's about 11 five 11,500 square ft. It's a four uh bay station. This

there are um one bay that's drive-thru. It's a twostory that uh second story is meant for uh bunks and housing. Um overnight, uh there are all the amenities that are required to operate the station. Um it is state-of-the-art. Uh it will have radio signal. It'll have uh all the required EMS um connections. It'll be um it's it'll be up in out of uh currently this level or location in Troy. There is a a floodway uh issue and uh our site is just in one corner above it. So we will be bringing in soil uh to be out of that so we meet the the twoft um uh elevation uh difference in delta and um it's going to just provide a much needed um station for this community. So I mean I can answer specific questions and and we have a totally detailed breakdown of cost uh that we provided. We've called vendors to get quotes. Uh we have back and forth emails from vendors to get those. We use our recent bidding of which we probably had six stations in the last month bid. So we're very attuned to where these numbers need to lie. And we also know that this is going to occur in, you know, a couple of years. It's going to take us six months after we get the nod to go ahead. It's going to take us six months to do the drawings and then it's going to have to go out to bid and then that's going to take an amount of time but uh we have very detailed breakout of what this station is going to cost. Would you be willing to provide that to the council? Yes, absolutely 100%. Thank you for your Yes. Does any of the

council members have questions for Dan? Council President, Council Member Keel, um, if this were delayed, let's just say two months down the road, what kind of cost would that incur to the city by delaying this project? Well, um, we've built in a contingency for escalation. It's a math equation based on recent, um, you know, real data that we've gotten. So the percentage, I don't know exactly what it would be, but it's not going to go down. Um, so the more time that goes on, I could probably articulate per month what it's going to cost, but it's it's got to be a few percentage points. I don't know exactly. I don't want to just throw a number out there, but it's not going to get any cheaper. So, uh, let's just say a few 3% on what is it? 17 million or 12.5 million. That's correct. Um that's that's a significant amount of money. If we s are you done um to that question? It will delay the bonding and delay us going to market which if we don't go in July after July it will cost more because January and July are the times that you go to market and you know Rick you could weigh in in terms of the cost to that but the costs will go up. I can't give you the exact cost but uh if these are not approved tonight then um we will have we won't be able to issue in July and so um if we if we uh were to delay

this until our July meeting uh and it's too late because we have to we have to get the estoppel notice out more than 30 days before the actual issuance date. The issuance is usually around July 20 between July 20 and 25 or so. Council President, Councilman Baron, then I suggest we get the information we've requested. All right. Coming to us the last minute without the proper information and then trying to pressure council members into voting things along without the information they're requesting is is unacceptable and it's happened a number of times over the last 18 months. Council President, Council President, Council Member Brazen, I agree that the administration has come with short notice before. I don't believe this is one of those situations. If you don't see the need for this, then I don't understand what you're looking at. If you think that we can't afford this particular bond, then you don't believe this project can be done. So, just vote no. That's not the case. That is specifically what you're saying. No. Council President. I council has Oh, apologies. Excuse me. I'm running the show here, folks. I still have the mic. Thank you, Council Member. Sorry. I just have to say if you guys vote no on this, look at everybody in the audience in the eyes, especially the firemen, okay, that suffer day in and day out with that firehouse. Look at them in the eye and tell them that you're voting no. And don't sit here and say, "I abstain." Because that's just a way of saving face of basically voting no. So, we'll just letting you know that's your opinion. It's it's it's disgusting, council member. Oh, uh, thank you. Um, again, I I don't think I can be any clearer. It's it's not a no. Um, obviously I fully support taking this project on if the administration can

provide the financial backup to show that we we can afford it. Um there's a lot of things that need to be done throughout the city and um they all cost uh substantial amounts of money. Um we have to pick and choose what we do and I think that this is a project that that needs to be a priority. Um but the information was requested uh I don't know maybe the day after I received the agenda and we didn't receive it. Um, I would be willing to call a special meeting at the end of June. That still will give you time and that will give I it does not um well then literally two boxes in in this situation. It's not a box number one. You received the information more than a week before today. So the seven days and council president, you were with me on the council where literally we would get a phone call the day before meeting from the prior mayor, from the prior controller and we did everything humanly possible to meet those demands. The unworking relationship, it's all talk and no action. And that's the problem here. The relationship does take two and we have literally bent over backwards to get the information to you. Secondly, as mentioned earlier, financial advisors did not provide the information because the information is not ready until we go to market. So the information that you're looking for, council member Vera, once again, if you wouldn't get it until after the bonds are issued. We have not issued bonds during my administration other than the two that were from the prior capital plan. So to say and

mislead the public and say I did not receive the information in time. Believe me, I've been in your shoes. I've heard it all. This is politics at its worst. And if you want to deprive our public safety from a firehouse 50 years old in 25 years overdue being built, then just vote no. And an abstension if you look up the definition is a no vote. So please just put it to vote and and look your firefighters in the face about their apparatus where one ring was literally broken down last week. 15 years old and a firehouse. Politics adds worse. And guess what? This isn't about me. This is not a home run cuz the prior mayor couldn't get done. We don't care. This is all about getting a firehouse and turning this city around with long-term capital investment. Thank you. Uh corporation council, could you please speak to the uh time frame for this? As as I said, the estoppel notice needs to be out 30 days. Um, and really that that would be cutting it too close. Here's what I would propose. I could care less about the politics of this. I think this is a project that the city really needs, that our firefighters really need. So, what what I would propose is this. This is what you're voting on is an authority for the city to issue $12.5 million of bonds. We will not be issuing 12.5 million dollars of bonds by July 25th. I don't know how much we're going to issue, but I I don't even know, maybe a million, maybe a million and a half, somewhere around there. I'm not sure just to get the project started. If we could commit, if the administration could commit to provide you, you know, we'll have to

consult with fiscal advisors um solid numbers on what the effect of the the issuance would have on our debt service. I mean, I I think if you could see your way to supporting this resolution, at least five of you could see your way to supporting this resolution, we'll get you those numbers before we issue the bonds themselves. Thank you. Um, and in addition to that, Dan, if you could provide us with how you arrived at this figure. I mean, that's part of our Sure. difficult. Absolutely. Our our difficulty here is that we are we've been given a request with not enough information and and whatever you can provide would be helpful. Happy to do it. Thank you, Council President Steel. Council member Casey. We did hear tonight that, you know, the people involved, our bond people did look at this and they said there was no red flags. You know, it it reminds me sitting here of we went what we went through for, you know, a year and a half not having the the perfect numbers on the reports because of our controller issues and the old entry system. But I asked every time somebody came in head of in front of us, I said, "Is there money missing? Is there red flags? anything that really is concerning you? Every time they said, "No, we just don't have everything perfect, but we don't see any money missing. The city isn't broke." But that excuse was used to vote down things like the Nicabaka ice rank funding,

which was a is a huge success for the kids and the citizens of Troy. Nobody said we're broke. Nobody said, "Oh my god, I looked. It's not We don't got all the numbers, but there's all kinds of money missing." And in the end, you know what? After everything we heard, we found out everything was okay with Troy's finances. After all those months, we found out there wasn't one thing wrong with the finances, but we couldn't fund this and we had to vote no for that. Listen, nobody came in front of us and said red flag because that would have been a red flag for all of us. The people who looked at this and looked at the future of our bonding we heard tonight, the experts did not see any red flags at all. So that's why I'm urging a vote for the firehouse that should have been torn down years ago. That is an unhealthy work environment for our firemen who risk their lives and they do risk their lives every day for this city. We need to vote yes on this tonight. Thank you very much, Council President. Councilman Barry, uh, Corporation Council, can you describe again the scenario you just you just walked us through? What what recourse does the council have if the administration chooses to not provide this information and chooses to move on without coordinating with the council once this is approved? Well, first of all, the administration would be breaking its word to you, and I think my word is on the line, too. So, uh, I I don't see that as likely. Um, I mean, there has to be a certain amount of, you know, good faith and honor in

conducting ourselves as public officials. Um, I've always tried to keep my word to the council and to and to say things straight. So, I don't I frankly I think if you vote this if you support this bond resolution, I don't think the administration has any choice but to provide you with the information that you've requested. Um, to to the best we can. I mean, because we're I mean, I think as the mayor rightly said, we're not issuing $12.5 million all at once. No. The first draw would be to further final engineering and architectural design. Correct. Correct. Um, mayor, is that something you're comfortable providing to council? Again, if while you're there, if you wouldn't mind, um, if we were to have a special meeting on the 23rd of June, which is next Monday, that gives five weeks more than 30 days that between the 23rd. See, a lot of things have to happen. We have to get the official statement out. Um, there has to be 30 days for the bond issuance itself. I'm not quite sure of whether that's before the official statement or whether that's before the actual money comes in for the bonds. Um, but the 23rd to the 23rd of July is just cutting it too close. I mean, I've already spoken with our bond council about this previously and um I mean, I could be wrong. I mean, maybe it would fit, but I I I would really hesitate to take the chance. Okay. Well, I think that clearly we're trying our best to work this out and um I I wish that we had been provided the information. Um, but council president,

council member Casey, can I just ask uh the mayor a question? This was provided for us over seven days ago. Correct. If the minority had let you know, we are voting no unless we receive this information. Don't expect ours vote unless we receive your information. This information before the meeting, would you have supplied that information? whatever was available. Remember fiscal advisors, the fiscal advisors um even stated because we're not issuing the full 12 and a half, they would never do a debt overview for the full 12 and a half. So saying that whatever fiscal advisors could provide, yes, we would provide it. The communication is always one way. Unfortunately, Council Member Casey, we've received nothing other than council member Vera, no communication in terms of verbal, no phone call. Um, if the council president, even if uh council member Spay McLaren got a um a decision from corp counsel normally, if you refuse, you ask for a decision. Am I in conflict? That's normally how it goes. an abstension. If you look up the definition, it's a no vote. So, if you wanted to vote no, just vote no. Council member Barry, you did request it. And I know that uh the deputy mayor did state because we weren't issuing the full bond. So, you know, once again, if we were asked and said, "Guess what? You're not getting a fifth vote." We would have asked for whatever they would have been able to provide. But um it might not have been to your satisfaction, but you know, we would have obviously tried to get whatever information. Council President, Councilman Vera, I just want to reiterate though that I

have your assurance that you will provide that information and in the meantime, the only draw against this is for the 12 and a half, the final design, okay, and the construction bid documents. Sorry, I thought I heard half a million. It's half half a million. And just to not to keep rehashing this all too and I stand by what I said, but I will also stand by that. Um, you know, you shot a lot of questions that is, you know, was not my intention to not provide the information to you. Frankly, it's not we are committed to sending it over to to the best of what's available. I just want to triple down on the word here because I do believe like what our corp council said, you know, at some point we have to have some faith in one another here. So, and again, you did provide quite a bit of the information that was requested because that was my intention to inform you and I want to clarify that that email was a a compilation of the three of our questions so that um we had caucused and came up with those questions. So that did represent um our views and and what the information that we needed. Um is there anyone else who wants to comment? I think that a lot of uh harsh words have been used tonight unfortunately unnecessarily and um I'm not happy to see that. I think that um we should act as professionals and not be uh especially when someone is trying to uphold their ethical beliefs. Um I will take a slow roll call. Council member Keel. I Yes. Council member Brazen. I.

Council member McLaren. I am still recusing myself. Thank you. Council member Vera with the mayor's reassurances. Yes. Council member Sorento. Yes. Council member Casey. In full support of my firefighter brothers. I vote yes. And I echo that. Um I fully support the work of the firemen and have always believed that we needed a new firehouse. I also take my responsibilities very seriously and I believe that the citizens of Troy expect that of us. We need to have the information when it's requested. It should be provided in a timely fashion. We're not supposed to be making decisions in a vacuum. Um and um I would hope that the mayor would see we have moved this evening and I would hope that that would signal to you uh in the future perhaps we'll know less less than 40 more than 45 minutes where the new city hall will be you know and the council president why why even go down this path like you you speak of goodwill and then you smack. Um, honestly, let's just move forward. That's what I'm all about. I am, too. And I'm I'm hoping that we can um the resolution before us has been adopted. 61. We Anyone want to take a break or do we want to Let's just We're almost done. Okay, sounds good. All right, we're

going to move right into the special uh meeting. Still have resolution. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. We We want to take a break just after we get done. Okie do. Let's continue. Uh, resolution 75, resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for the purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act, Council Member Casey, at the request of the administration. Do I have a motion? Motion. Second. Uh, we're going to give that to Council Member Soreno. Make a second by Council Member. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 76, bond resolution of the city of Troy authorizing the issuance of 100,000 serial bonds to finance fire department station 6 building improvements. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Second. Councilman Broden with a second by Councilman Heale. Discussion. Council President, I just wanted to advise the council that the reason this was broken out from the prior resolution with the 750,000 was because this this uh fire station 6 has a different ppu because it has a woodframe construction underneath the bricks. Thank you. Any questions from the council? All in favor? I I opposed recuse. Six eyes's one recusal. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 77. Resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract with a EHS risk management for the purpose of developing and implementing a safety management

system for the departments of the city. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Keel discussion. Do we understand this is a result of the fire study? Uh this is this is not a result of the fire study. This is a result of a separate RFP that was put out that deals with risk management across the entire city. Um it's not something that from everybody that's been here for a bit that recall ever having done. Um I sometimes liken what we're trying to do here to combat. There's probably some you know dusty binders and some garages and some protocols. This whole entire um plan uh with this risk management uh you know they'll do an assessment for the city to make sure to evaluate where we're most at risk. What liabilities are there? how do we uh how do we make it a safer workplace? They will then design and implement um the various uh protocols and systems. What is exciting about this specific proposal which was one of the things that we were looking for is it definitely has a good digital aspect to it. Um I keep explaining that if one of our staff members is out in the in their work truck and something happens and they want to see, okay, what are the next steps to what just happened? It's an app they can go and get on their phone. Um, you know, so there's stuff like that that's going to be built everywhere from lockout protocols to safety equipment. Um, how we wear it, what the procedures are. I will note too that, um, you know, seeing that this hasn't been done at the city of Troy before and I know we've talked about a lot of exciting stuff and we're ending on the excitement of risk management, but it really is an exciting item. Um, I will tell you that our

insurance carrier really uh really liked it when we were gearing up to shop our premium. Um, and uh the the unions have also asked for it as well. It's something that I think CSA specifically has been pushing for for many years. Um, so we did put that proposal out and really look forward to uh see how it goes. One, I may have heard it come up during the budget uh transfer and I just popped in my head. So once we do get to that ongoing um program management that's quarterly, it's not necessarily that we keep them on forever to would be something that we could have eventually separate from them once everything is fully are, you know, is designed tailored to Troy. Uh staff's aware of how to utilize it. They also are, you know, would be willing to do or they could come in and do an engagement of kind of a check it after we get there. But um you know, we definitely have to there's a lot like many things here. it's been an item that's been left by the wayside and not taken on. So, that's definitely something that, you know, we look forward to engaging them on and and building us up to the to 2025 and just make it a safer safer workplace for the staff and and to uh limit liabilities. I know what's the price tag on that again? So, the total here is um I want to say 87,000 um to start Yeah, to start up. That pretty much should get us through that um those initial tasks and then that becomes an annual expense. It could actually become a quarterly um a quarterly expense if we so to keep them on. But you're you're really not we're just looking for that startup. So then we can evaluate after they do that assessment, build the protocols, the um the digital uh procedures like I said, and then you know help staff with training and get them on board. And at that point we could evaluate but um this before you

and that budget transfer is really what what gets it up and going and then we can decide if it has value quarterly after the fact and at that point yes it would become a budgeted expense. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay. All in favor? I opposed. Resolution is adopted unanimously. Resolution 78, resolution to preserve essential social security, Medicare and Medicaid services. Council member Casey, Council Member Sorento, Council Member Keel. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Is there a second? Second. Council member Barrett. Discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Resolution is adopted again. I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. All in favor? I I We are adjourned now. Do you want to take breaks? Yes. Take a break.

Yeah, thank you. Look the lights. I just sent you Jerry Bars. All set. Good evening everyone and welcome to the special meeting of the Troy City Council. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy and justice for all. Cler, please call the role. Council member Keel. Council member Brazen, present. Council member Spay McLaren, Council Member Vera, present. Council member Saranto here. Council member Casey, present. Council President Seal, present. All are present. Um, at this point, we have a public forum. Anyone who wishes to speak and address the council on any agenda item is welcome to come forth and uh provide your name, address. Does anyone wish to address the council? Seeing none, we'll move along to the agenda ordinances. Ordinance 27, ordinance amending the city of Troy zoning map to change the zoning district of property known as 74 New Turnpike Road tax map parcel number 704-1-1 from single family neighborhood to development intensity to plan development district. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion

member Brazman. Second. Second. Council member Ke discussion. Council President Steel. I just want to quickly say that since I heard of this project when we uh in committee uh Councilman Barer and I and and uh Sheamus and different people in that uh group heard of this uh idea. I just thought it was the best. It's uh you know if you wanted to downsize you could move into one of these tiny homes. for seniors and I just thought it was uh just a very unique and just a great use. Uh it's not the typical idea. I didn't expect it and I just uh can picture in my mind nice little streets with little homes with a bunch of uh older people living a quiet life and it's the best idea I I think I could have imagined for uh something that's just been an eyes sore uh forever and that's the old Leonard Hospital site. Thank you. Anyone else? All in favor? I I oppos. Seven. I zero nos. Ordinance 27 passes. Ordinance 28. Ordinance 28. Ordinance amending the 2025 budget by appropriating funding from the general fund unassigned fund balance to the general fund operating budget. Council member Casey at their request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Kio discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven. I zero. No. Ordinance 28 passes. Ordinance 29. Ordinance 29. Ordinance authorizing the deduction of monies from the general fund unassigned fund balance authorizing the creation of a capital project and amending the general fund and capital projects fund to appropriate funding to said project. Council member Casey at the request of the

administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second by Council Member McLaren. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. 7 I zero nos. Ordinance 29 passes. Ordinance 30. Ordinance 30. Ordinance authorizing the creation of a capital project in the capital projects fund appropriating funding from the unappropriated fund balance of the water fund for the purpose of said capital project and amending the water fund and capital projects fund budgets for said capital project. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Second. Council member McLaren. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. 7 I zero nos. Ordinance 30 passes. Resolution 57. Resolution 57. Resolution appointing a commissioner of deeds for the city of Troy. Council President Steel. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Vera. Discussion. All in favor? I oppose. Seven. I zero nos. Resolution 57 passes. Resolution 58. Resolution 58. Resolution of the city of Troy recognizing Junth, Council Member Casey, Council Member Keel, Council Member Brazen, Council Member Spec, Claren, Council President Seal, Council Member Vera, Council Member Story at the request of the administration. Since we're all on it, we'll just say all in favor. I oppose seven eyes, zero nos. Resolution 58 passes. Resolution 60. 59 didn't pass. Resolution 60, resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract with the Boys and Girls Club of the Capital Area Incorporated for the purpose of providing trained personnel

to administer and operate the South Troy pool facility through September 1st, 2025. Council member Casey, Council President steel the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Farah. Second. Council member McLaren. Discussion. All in favor? I I opposed. Seven I zero nos. Resolution 60 passes. Resolution 61. Resolution 61. Resolution determining the proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. There a motion. Motion. Member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Vera. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven I zero nos. Resolution 61 passes. Resolution 62. Resolution 62. Bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of $350,000 serial bonds to finance the purchase of an ambulance. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Vera. Discussion. All in favor? I I opposed recuse. Just bear with me with all these because it's going to take me a while to click them all. Um, six eyes, one recusal. Resolution 62 passes. Resolution 63. Resolution 63. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Keel. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Is that everybody? Okay. Seven eyes,

zero nos. Resolution 63 passes. Resolution 64. That didn't pass. Resolution 65, resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Keel. Discussion. All in favor? I oppose. Seven eyes. Zero nos. Resolution 65 passes. Resolution 66. Resolution 66. spawn resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 600,000 serial bonds to finance the purchase of the firefighting apparatus. Council member Casey at the request of administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Keel, discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Recused. 61 sticks eyes. One recusal. Resolution 66 passes. Resolution 67. Resolution 67. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for proposed for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Member Vera with a second by council member Brazman discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven eyes, zero nos. Resolution 67 passes. Resolution 68. Resolution 68. Bomb resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authoring the issuance of $650,000 serial bonds to and finance the fire department building improvements. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second.

Second. Council member Keel. Discussion. All in favor? I one that was aal Six eyes, one recusal. Resolution 68 passes. Resolution 69. Resolution 69. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion member Vera with a second by council member Brazen. Discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Seven eyes, zero nos. Resolution 69 passes. Resolution 70. Resolution 70. Bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of 7.4 million serial bonds to finance the reconstruction of various streets in the city. Council member Casey at the request of administration. Is there a motion? Council member Vera, seconded by council member Brazen. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven, zero nos. Resolution 70 passes. Resolution 71. Resolution 71. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member second. Second. Council member Keel. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. 7 I zero nos. Resolution 71 passes. Resolution 72. Resolution 72, bond resolution of the city of Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of $ 1.5 million serial bonds to finance the cost of the reconstruction of the city water supply of distribution system. Council member Casey at the request of the

administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member second. Second by council member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven I zero no nos. Resolution 72 passes. Resolution 73. Resolution 73. Resolution determining that the proposed construction of a new fire station building will not have a significant effect on the environment. Council member Casey, Council Member Kale at the request of the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member President. Second. Second. Council member Sorento. Discussion. Council President. Council member Barrow at sacrificing the the speed at which we're going through this. Um [Music] we uh we have all the information. I I did notice this at the uh the finance meeting. Um the backup that was sent to us just it doesn't include uh part two of the the seeker form. Um, so I think just for the record, we should simply state that uh the council's resp by by by voting in favor of this, the council's responses to those 11 or 12 questions are all uh no or small impact, I think, is is what the box says. Is that is that correct? It's a short form, right? So it's just the 11 the 11 or 12 questions. Yeah. Right. That's right. It's a short form and and we've contacted and submitted documentation to to Shipo and and um their Chris's website and so it's yes, it's a short form just so that when you go back later to do your paperwork, it was discussed at the council meeting and the council members by voting are are voting in favor of that. There's my follow. So you expect part two to be actually part two is the part with you that the lead agency making the

determination uh fill out and sent to you. You can fill it out. Um typically it would be filled out. It would be filled out by city staff in advance of the meeting. It's a very minor thing. Yeah. Okay. It's an unlisted action. We have all the necessary documentation. I'm just just for the records so we don't find ourselves back here. I don't think we need to be back here for this. There will also be a part three noted. There will be a part three. That the council president will sign. Yes. Anything else? No, that's it. All in favor? I opposed. Seven. Right. Is this one seven? Seven eyes, zero nos. Resolution 73 passes. Resolution 74. Resolution 74, bond resolution of the city of Troy, Troy, New York, authorizing the issuance of $12.5 million serial bonds to finance the construction of a new fire station building. Council member Casey, Council Member Ke at the request to the administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Council member second. Seconded by council member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. I am still recusal and it's not because I meant to vote no. Thank you. Six eyes, one recusal. Resolution 74 passes. 75. Resolution 75. Resolution determining that proposed action is a type two action for purposes of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. May I have a motion? Motion. Council member Brazen. Second. Seconded by Council Member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Seven I zero nos. Resolution 75 passes. Resolution 76. Resolution 76. Bomb resolution of the city of Tren New York authorizing the issuance of $100,000 serial bonds to finance fire department station 6 building improvements. Council member Casey at the request of the

administration. Is there a motion? Motion. Member Brazen. Second. Second. Council member Verr getting laid. Uh any discussion on 76? All in favor? I I opposed and one recusal. I guess I don't understand which ones. Six eyes, one recusal. Resolution 76 passes. Resolution 77. Resolution 77. A resolution authorizing the mayor to enter into a contract with EHS risk management for the purpose of developing and implementing a safety management system for the departments of the city. Council member Casey at the request of the administration. May I have a motion? Motion. Council member President second. Second. Council member McLaren. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven eyes. Zero nos. Resolution 77 passes. Resolution 78. Resolution 78. Resolution to preserve essential social security, Medicare and Medicaid services. Council member Casey, Council Member Saransto, Council Member Keel. Yes. Have a motion. Motion. Is there a second? Second. Council member Rosen. Seconded by Council Member Sorento. Discussion. All in favor? I opposed. Seven I zero knows. Resolution 78 passes. At this point, we have a public forum that is uh open to anyone who wishes to address us on any item, not necessarily an agenda item. Thank you, Dan. Seeing none, I would entertain a motion

to adjourn. Motion. Motion. That was clear. Let's go home. All in favor? I I That was Brazen and Vera.