City Council - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon. I'm calling to order May 26, 2026 at 4.31 p.m. Committee of the Whole for Parks and Environment Sustainability. In attendance are council members. I'll start with Council President Stewart, Council Vice President Wakamina, Council Member Kritzer, Council Member Forsyth, Council Member Prakriya, Council Member Parsi, and myself, Presiding Officer Menka Soni. We have six items on the agenda that has been already shared with all council members in their agenda packet and please note that one of the council one of the agenda item has been pulled out and will be presented later in other committee. So our first agenda item for approval is the Perigo Park turf replacement youth athletic facility grant resolution and we have with us parks director Loreen Hamilton Lindsay Falkenberg, our parks planning manager.

Good afternoon, City Council. Whoa, that's a hot mic. Good afternoon, City Council. I'm going to sit way back. Good afternoon, City Council. I'm Lorene Hamilton, the parks director. I'm joined by our planning manager, Lindsay Falkenberg. Today we're bringing through a resolution for the application to a state grant. I'll hand it over to Lindsay for the background and details on this item.

Good afternoon, Council President Stewart, Council Vice President Nueva Camino and council members. Today I'm here to request council authorization to move our RCO Youth Athletic Facilities or YAF grant resolution to consent on June 2nd. This would allow the city to accept the grant if we are awarded funding. Very briefly, this grant application is for the replacement of two synthetic turf fields at Parago Park. Parago is one of our most heavily used athletic field complexes and serves as a major recreation hub for Southeast Redmond and Bear Creek area. These fields support soccer, lacrosse, softball, baseball, cricket, and other activities, and they provide over 3,000 scheduled hours of use annually. The reason we're pursuing this grant is that the existing turf is nearing the end of its useful life. We're seeing declining performance, user reported safety concerns, and winter closures related to the current cork infill freezing and creating slick conditions. Based on our lifecycle planning, these fields will need to be replaced in 2028 to maintain safe and reliable play. The YAF grant is a state recreation and conservation office grant focused specifically on youth athletic facilities. We applied for the maximum request amount of 1.5 million toward a project estimated at about 3.2 million total. The RCO YAF grant does require matching funds, which the city should be able to provide with the remainder of the CIP funding requested for this project. Both CIP and grant funding would support design, removal of the existing turf, any needed base remediation, and installation of new synthetic turf and infill materials. The project would stay entirely within the existing field footprint as this is a replacement project, not an expansion. Council had asked what happens if we do not receive the grant. The answer is straightforward. The Parago Turf Replacement Project is already included in a current capital investment program need. If we are not awarded funding, the CIP request would continue at the full amount needed to deliver the project. If we are successful, the grant would effectively offset about half of the project cost and reduce the city's financial burden. Council also asked about timing. We anticipate beginning design work in 2027, completing design in early 2028, and starting construction in late summer of 2028 to avoid peak field season uses. The goal would be to complete construction and reopen the fields by spring of 2029 in time for the 2029 season. Again, today's request is simply for authorization language required by the state so that if we are awarded the grant, the city can formally accept it. I'm happy to take questions and answer what I can.

Questions?

Thank you chair. Thank you Lindsay for reporting out on that and also thank you to staff for keeping an eye out for where can we leverage grants to where this is already in the budget, it's already moving, it's in process and this way we can reallocate those funds. So thank you for keeping an eye out. Now fingers crossed that we get the grant.

Council Member Kritzer. Yeah, thank you. And can you remind us, I know that in the past when we've been looking at turf in particular, we've been looking at kind of more sustainable options for turf. Can you just remind us of the details of what we would be pursuing for this project? Yeah. Whether that's made now or down the road in terms of decision?

Yeah, I think the idea is to move forward with, and Darcy can correct me if I'm wrong, with the TPE synthetic infill. So we have Kirk- cork currently on this field, which is, you know, a more sustainable option, but we've seen some issues with it in terms of its performance. And so TPE is the product that we've used on our most recent turf upgrades at other fields and is considered the most sustainable option, I think, within the industry currently.

Okay, great. Thank you. I'm in support of moving this to consent and applying for this grant. Council Member Parsi.

Thank you. I also wanted to thank you for applying for the grants. That would be fantastic. I am reading the memo. I would have loved to see a little bit more detailed information, for example, calling out due to unsafe conditions, categorizing how it is unsafe, and also adding a little bit more in terms of timelines and budget. That would be super helpful. But thank you so much. I'm also in support.

Council Member Prakriya.

Just from anecdotal experience, growing up playing soccer in many a turf field in Redmond and having many friends who did, I know there has been a lot of concern about injuries resulting from turf. So I'm just wondering what kind of safety considerations went in when we were deciding to use TPE infill compared to a different kind of synthetic turf.

Okay, I'm not a turf expert, but my understanding is that most safety concerns around turf start occurring when we reach the end of our kind of like life, yeah, use life cycle of a turf field, which is why we have them on a life cycle planning process and replace them on timelines. So, you know, we worry about turf getting compacted or again in the winter when it gets cold and it freezes, it gets slick. That's a problem we're seeing with the cork infill out at Parago. But I think the TPE is, again, considered a best practice industry standard and should be safe.

And as technology continues to advance in turf fields, one of the things that we're seeing more and more is better impact pads under the turf surface as well, which helps with the hard landings on the turf not causing as much injury. So we are seeing that continue to improve. And so as we go into design, we take all of that into consideration. The cork has created that slick conditions on the surfaces. And so that's a big reason why we're moving away from it. And the TPE has been the best that we've used so far. So we'll also look more into all of those considerations in full design.

Awesome. Thank you so much for your work on this.

I think the only other thing I would add is that if we were to be awarded this grant, we would still also come through council for acceptance. So just want to be clear on process that that will still happen if we receive this grant.

Any more questions? Seeing none. So are we good to move this item for consent agenda on June 2nd? Our second agenda was Redmond Historical Society lease agreement, which has been moved from today's agenda for the FSC committee. So we are moving on to the agenda item number three, which is acceptance of the Bloomberg Philanthropies Youth Climate Action Fund grant. And this is presented by Mika Bonkoski, am I correct? Thank you. The Sustainability Program Administrator and Jenny Laibach are Sustainability Manager.

Good evening, Council. This evening, as stated, we're looking for approval to accept the Bloomberg Philanthropies Youth Climate Action Fund grant on consent at the January 2nd business meeting. Redmond is one of 300 cities from across the globe that has been selected for a Youth Climate Action Fund grant of $50,000. Funds are to be distributed as a micro grant between one and $5,000 to fund youth led projects and climate initiatives benefiting the Redmond community. Successful completion of this first round of grant funding will qualify Redmond for a second round of the grant also $50,000 in 2027. The Youth Climate Action Fund has four main aims for this grant. It's to equip cities to partner with youth in developing and implementing solutions to local climate challenges, to create pathways for youth ideas to move from input to implementation aligned with city priorities, to build lasting city capacity and structures to continue to engage with youth in our community, and to increase trust between cities and young residents through visible collaboration and results. And as part of this program, if accepted, the city will open a call for projects later this summer.

Any questions?

Council Member Forsyth. Thank you. So how will we be doing the outreach to, say, our teens and through our schools? How do you envision that process?

Yeah, so there's several parts to this implementation of this grant. Bloomberg has run this once before for two separate years. This is the third cycle of this grant process. And they have a whole phased system of working with the cities that they partner with, which includes mentoring of cities, So a lot of the outreach will happen through non-governmental organizations and non-profits in the community. It'll happen through the schools, and it'll happen through other partnerships that we've already developed through the engagement we did with the Environmental Sustainability Action Plan update.

Great. I would love to see if we could broaden our reach. So think outside the box of who we, what names of organizations you give to those folks to do that work.

Absolutely. And each grant, each micro grant also is required to have a fiscal agent. And so those NGOs become a key partner in the implementation of these projects for the youth.

Council Member Kritzer.

Thank you, and I think that's a great idea, especially thinking about our community-based organizations that may not be environmental as their main mission, but may serve diverse parts of our community. Also, I will note, since I think we've heard from them before, the sustainability ambassadors might be a great one to be able to connect with since they already have their youth kind of doing projects. They may have some that are teed up that would be great to get funded. Now I just forgot what my question was, but this is great. I'm excited about this opportunity and really glad that our city, and actually I guess I'm curious, can you share with us how it is that we came about to be one of the selected cities?

It was a really brief application process that we found out about through ICLEI, I believe it was. And so we applied in Washington State, Bellevue, Redmond, and Olympia are the three cities that were selected. And it's pretty amazing across the, I think in North America, there's 83 cities total. And the cities really range across the whole globe. We've had one meeting already where they talked about different projects that had been done in both Africa and South America. And it was pretty inspiring. Amazing. Thank you.

Council Member Parsi. Thank you so much for pursuing this opportunity. This is something that we've heard time and time again from residents, so I'm really excited that the goals are so well aligned with things we've heard from the community. I see that there is some opportunity for Council to visit schools and attend joint design sessions. Is that something that you would be willing to share with the Council when time arrives if we're successful?

Happy to share, yeah.

Council President, do you have a question? I do have a question on this. So we see that the charter is also requiring to pick up two to four specific themes. And I just want to ensure like, you know, how are we going to pick up some of these themes so that they will be according to our environmental sustainable action plan? Or is it possible for the youth also to submit some of the themes that they are also really enthusiastic to work on and that may be aligned with our themes?

Yeah, I think this is something we've thought about a little bit. I think the way our sustainability action plan was formatted with the five big moves really lends itself to picking themes for this grant and will cover kind of all of the areas of the sustainability action plan as it exists already.

Any more questions? Can we move this item for a consent on June 2nd? Seeing thumbs up, thank you so much. Let's move to our next agenda item, which is for collecting feedback for our study session. And this is public art master plan. And this item will be presented by, let me see who's coming. We have Parks Director Laureen Hamilton here. I do see Chris Weber, our Cultural Arts Supervisor. And I do see Hannah Kullman for our Cultural Arts Coordinator and Brittany Pratt, Recreation's Business Manager.

Good afternoon, City Council. We're here to just present on our cultural arts plan and get a little feedback before we come for a study session so we can ensure that we address any needs that you have or questions that you might have as we head into that. So with that, I will hand it over to staff to present this item.

Great. Thank you, City Council. I'm Chris Weber, Cultural Arts Supervisor, here with my colleagues Brittany Pratt and Hannah Coleman. to discuss the public arts master planning efforts as we near completion of the plan. We will be joined by our consultants from MIG to talk in more detail at the June 9th study session, but excited to share a sneak peek tonight and ask for your initial feedback and for any questions you may have as we prepare for the study session.

So first we'll give a little reminder on the project and the process so far. As a reminder, our previous public art plan was adopted in 2017. And since then, as you well know, Redmond has grown by over 20,000 residents and is incredibly more culturally diverse than it was in 2017. This updated public art plan will be in alignment with both the 2023 park plan update and the Redmond 2050 comprehensive plan. And it will work to ensure that our public art programs keep pace with community needs, celebrate diversity and strengthen Redmond's identity as a creative community. It will also give us the policies and funding strategies needed to sustain and expand public art for the longterm. For this 2026 update to the public arts plan, we last visited you and we visited you a few times over the last year and a half, but we last visited you on January 27th to share findings from our robust community outreach efforts. which included 461 questionnaire responses, more than 26 stakeholder interviews with artists, staff, organizations, business, regional partners, elected officials, more than 15 staff meetings and presentations to commissions and advisory groups, including Redmond Arts and Culture Commission, Parks, Trails and Recreation Commission, Senior Advisory Committee and RIPEC, which is the Redmond Youth Partnership Advisory Committee. in-person outreach at Derby Days 2025 and Downtown Redmond Art Walk, otherwise known as Draw 2025, and a creative economy focus group event with artists and cultural sector representatives.

The community feedback and engagement findings inform the draft development of the 2026 Public Arts Master Plan, which includes implementation strategies split across three framework goals, citywide public art, arts ecosystem, and city systems. 91% of questionnaire respondents agreed that public art is important to their experience of the city. The citywide public art framework strategizes how to continue to integrate public art into parks, trails, streets, bridges, and capital projects so it becomes part of how the city is built and experienced daily, prioritizing highly visible locations, neighborhood gathering spaces, and infrastructure projects with a pathway for private development to contribute to the citywide network. 82% of questionnaire respondents prefer art created by local artists with a community connection. The arts ecosystem framework supports artists through coordinated pathways at every career stage, from trainings to temporary projects to permanent commissions. And to better complete these efforts, the city systems framework establishes clear governance, stable funding, and streamlined processes to support consistent program delivery and long-term stewardship of the public art collection, including updated acquisition policy, collection management, and cross-department coordination.

So next steps at the June 9th study session, we will be joined by our consultants, MIG, to walk through the public art master plan. And then we'll also be joined by Director Cochran, who will present on the proposed updates to public art funding that we have been working on in parallel with our public art master planning efforts with the goal of bringing updated recommendations to council that will provide increased and predictable funding for public art in Redmond. And we are excited to hear your feedback and what questions you may have as we prepare.

Questions council member for site, thank you really excited to see in the plan all the experiential art and. The Community feedback for that want to make sure i'm emphasizing from the experience side that doesn't necessarily mean performance that means like interactive. So it was really excited to see that and also very excited to see accessible art on the list as well, so love those two things I have a bunch of questions about the financing piece so i'm going to email those over now.

Council President Stewart.

Thank you so much team. This was such a joy to read and especially as we think back to like all the buzz that we had at the downtown Redmond Art Walk last year. Everyone who came to the booth that we were at were was basically asking us for wayfinding. How do we find the consultants? How do we give our input on this important plan? So really appreciate the chance to take a look at it. I have a couple of overarching comments and questions for the study session. First is that I am interested in seeing a strengthened connection between this plan and the comp plan that it helps implement. This could be as simple as referring to the comp plan a few times that the plan doesn't do that. It could also highlight some of those policies that we worked so hard to put those guiding policies in the comp plan. One of the reasons we set such a high bar is so that we can aspire to achieve it. And I can tell from the content that we are well on our way, but proving it to ourselves and making that connection, I think could be really helpful. I also want to highlight at the study session to kind of build on but be different than my colleague. There is one way to read the plan that does feel like it's very focused on the visual arts. And we should take a little bit of time making sure the performing arts are reflected here. And I do mean everything from the big, large performances to also, I was recently asked if the Busker program could make a comeback. So here, there, everywhere, of all sizes, making sure that we have time in the study session to do that. And one last piece is I would like to see, oh, in part of that connection to the comp plan, I'm so sorry, I kind of skipped over my own note here. There is in the document a note about cultural districts that may be developed in Marymoor and Overlake, but in fact, OV Policy 5 established already the intercultural district. So we should just make sure that we are in alignment there.

Thank you. Councilmember Parsi.

Thank you. I'm also very excited about this. It was a joy to read. I have two questions. One is that right now we're seeing the plans kind of we have one bucket of funds to support all arts. I don't know if we have a mechanism to reserve a portion of the resources for a smaller number of truly ambitious, really high investment works that may define Redmond in a kind of culturally distinctive way. So that's one question that I have, and if that's something that we're open to considering. And then the second question I have is, I see that we're investing a lot in supporting individual artists and creating pipelines, which is fantastic. I also see a potential opportunity for us to create art infrastructure for artists to not just participate, but be able to push the boundaries of their art, and also in a way that it strengthens Redmond's characteristics and history, which was one of our goals. So for example, woodworking is something that Redmond has timber routes. So I would be curious to see if infrastructure would also fall into that or not.

Thank you.

Thank you so much for all the work on this. This is really exciting. I think I just am so excited about it that I'm I think my biggest question is, what do you if you whether you can share with us during the study session, the anticipated timeline for implementing these strategies. And like, what are some of the things that we would expect could happen in the next year or two? What are things that you expect would be on the horizon as nice to do, you know, medium, maybe it's short, medium, long-term, right? If we could kind of get a bucketing of that, it's not totally clear for me from reading through this. And I think in particular, are there anything, since we're gonna be talking about the funding for this, are there any things when we think about budget that could be done sooner should we allocate budget to it? Or what would we be thinking about for longer term considerations? Especially because I think the considerations here, we're talking about kind of the funding for the arts very much in the capital space within the discussion that we're planning for this study session. but some of the recommendations are really also operational. So, and so understanding, for example, the like cross departmental team, you know, is that something that just as a change of culture or does it require additional staffing or support to make it happen? It would be a question I have.

Yeah, that's a great question. And it does get a little bit dicey, right? Because there's this big kind of capital piece, which is what we'll spend a lot of time on. And then there is that operational budget piece, which is gonna come through in the budget process as well, particularly around how we fund staffing and things like that. So we may not be able to like hit all of those answers in the study session just because of the timing around the budget and this, but we'll do our best to bring forward as much information as we can in that space, but just flagging kind of the, I guess, awkward moment in time we find ourselves in as we have that conversation with the budget just around the corner.

Yeah, that makes sense. I think if you could preview and also I would say if it's a big ask to say divide it all into short, medium, long, you can give us a sense of what we can be excited about getting sooner and what's going to take a little more time. I think that would be helpful to get a sense in the study session on there. And if there's anywhere where our decisions during this budget cycle would make that difference. Thank you.

Any more questions? I have a question, and this is regarding, like, the plan has mentioned about new citywide public art network, which is a pathway for private development to contribute to public art. So is this private pathway, is this going to be completely voluntarily, or are we expecting some percentage contributions for the large-scale commercial or high-density residential developments that will come in our downtown, Marymore, and in Overlake?

Yeah, so this is really a continuation of a program we're already doing. And so... And... you'll know from being on the Arts Commission that we, everyone, so often we get the public, we get the privately developed public art, they come to the Commission to get things approved, and sometimes they do that specifically just because they want to have art, sometimes they do it because there's a blank wall requirement or a gateway requirement that they go through our planners to get to us, and then sometimes it's specifically to get extra square footage. And so that is, I think, Where the plan is specifically saying is that we need to get that word out in a in a more clear way right now I think it's kind of going through planners to us, and so the idea of. How do we better make sure that all of the developers know that this is happening and then in the back end having that cross departmental team to scout out any issues that might happen due to these art projects. That answers.

I also just want to do a quick plug as Chris was, as you guys were talking about that, one of the things that it reminded me of is that we have just finished our art, what is it called? Art story map. And it maps out all of the public art throughout the city of Redmond. And that includes the map, the art that is in private developments and that have been done through public private partnerships. And we'll put that, we'll actually send that out to you all. It just got finished, just went live. And it's really cool to see how much art we have been able to infuse throughout the city because of those public private partnerships and those programs that have been worked on so hard over the years. So we'll send that out just a little plug for some really great artwork that's been being done in partnership with TIS.

And that just on top of that, the, It shows some of the private developers so far. We actually are still getting them some photos and things in from them. So this initial launch has about 100 artworks total, about 60 from our collection, but also the library, King County Library, King County, Sound Transit, and I think four or five of our larger private developments. And so I think... we'll keep adding to that in the short term and then and then obviously in the long term as well, but. So I think we actually probably have closer to 150 to 200 in the public realm, but this is a good start and exciting to see that there's yeah lots of lots of groups all adding to our public art.

That's really amazing to see and can't wait to see the list, Director Hamilton. Council Member Parsi, you have a question?

One last question for study session. Sorry, I forgot to ask earlier. If it's possible to see from the finances perspective, And the budget that we're allocating for arts aside versus the budget that goes into building the infrastructure itself, I know that we have a goal of integrating art directly into what we're building. So I just didn't know if we're allocating the 1% separate, if the art will be kind of created separate, or how it will be integrated into the project itself. If from the finances part, we could clarify that that would be super.

Thank you. Any more questions? So we look forward to see this item on June 9th study session. Thank you so much. Moving to our next item on the agenda, which is Environment Sustainability Action Plan Implementation Update May 2026. And this will be presented by Jenny Laibach, Sustainability Manager.

Yeah, good afternoon Council. Jenny Liebeck, sustainability manager. So each quarter we provide an update on the key work that's happening or that's happened over the past few months to advance our environmental sustainability action plan and move our five big moves forward. So the goal with these updates is to give a snapshot of our progress and highlight some of the kind of behind the scenes work that happens to keep all of this moving. So today I'm joined by Lyda Harris from our Parks Department and Erin O'Meara from our Executive Department for our Q2 update. So again, we will not cover every bullet from the attachment, but we did wanna highlight just three items for you this evening. To start us off, an important part of our implementing the Environmental Sustainability Action Plan is making sure that the city is leading by example. through our own facilities and operations. So as part of the 25-26 budget, council approved a new FTE in our Parks and Recreation Department to bring more capacity to advance this work and support our goal of carbon neutrality for city operations by 2040. And so tonight, I'm excited to have Lyda Harris here, who has stepped into that role to move this work forward. So I'm gonna hand that over to Lyda for our first update this evening.

Yeah, good evening council. I'm Lyda Harris. I'm the sustainability program administrator within the parks and recreation department sitting in the planning team over there. So I work really closely with our facilities team looking at municipal operations and facilities. One of our main goals is to increase efficiency and reduce emissions in municipal facilities and operations to meet our strong commitment to going carbon neutral and as well as the Washington clean building performance standard that came into effect. One of the main aspects of the Washington Clean Building Performance Standard is energy use intensity, which I'll be talking a little bit about today in regard to this building and our efforts. It is essentially a measure of energy use per size so that we can compare across buildings of different size and different uses. The city has been part of Puget Sound Energy Commercial Strategic Energy Management Program since 2021. As part of that program, we work to reduce energy use across facilities through improved operations and staff engagement. They provide technical support, energy walkthroughs and incentives to help us meet our goals. And we as a city earn financial incentives based on the energy reduction and performance that we accomplish. We have an upcoming deadline in 2027 for a few buildings for the clean energy performance standard, mainly City Hall, which is our largest building at over 100,000 square feet. So I'll just be taking that as an example today since we're sitting there. We use electricity and natural gas. and it is our largest building. And so we utilize Puget Sound Energy's Commercial Strategic Energy Management Program to help meet compliance over the past quarter, really focused on small, low-cost, no-cost improvements that we can make operationally here. Those improvements included HVAC scheduling, weekend shutdowns, air purge optimization, and lighting controls, and it led to about a 16% reduction in electricity and 11% reduction in natural gas, which overall resulted in approximately a 10% reduction in cost savings. So our energy bills are increasing with Puget Sound Energy increasing all of their bills and costs. And so both we want to do this from a environmental perspective as well as from a financial perspective. We were able to reduce our energy use intensity. So again, that is the energy per size that we're using. from we reduced at 10 points going from 70 to 60 and that puts on us on track for compliance this is just one of many buildings in our portfolio and one of many stories to increase efficiency in existing buildings and just wanted to offer a little snapshot i'm going to hand it off to aaron

Good afternoon Council, my name is Aaron American i'm a supplemental sustainability coordinator here with the sustainability team i'm and i'm here today to provide an update on our greenhouse gas inventories and just share some key highlights with you all. So just for a little bit of context to the city completes both a Community wide. and a city operations greenhouse gas emissions inventory on a biannual basis. And so the previous inventories were completed for the year 2022 with our baseline year in 2021. And so we also conduct these inventories because they're the best metric to track our progress towards our emissions reductions targets. And they also help us prioritize our programming to maximize our impact. And so it is important to note, though, that these are just our best estimates. So our greenhouse gas inventories are made up of a mix of both scaled national and statewide data and also specific local consumption and activity data. So now to jump into our data, today I'll be talking about our 2024 greenhouse gas emissions inventory, as well as the additional 2023 inventory that was conducted to inform our 2025 ESAP refresh. So in 2024, in the community-wide inventory, we saw that the largest sources of our emissions were electricity, on-road vehicle travel, and natural gas. And so if we compare year to year, in 2024, we saw an 18% reduction in community-wide emissions compared to 2023, and a 24% reduction from our 2011 baseline. And this reduction in emissions was largely driven by green power purchases in the commercial sector, reduced building energy consumption and reduced vehicle miles traveled. And so while we work with the community to lower emissions across Redmond, we also are committed to this work in our own operations. And so the city operations inventory only makes up 0.5% of the community wide inventory, but it's a really important tool to track our progress towards our carbon neutral city operations goal. and also show that we're putting in the work alongside our partners. And so for the 2024 city operations inventory, our largest sources of emissions came from both electricity and natural gas use, our vehicle fleet and employee commuting. And if we compare year to year for our city operations, in 2024, we saw a 5% decrease from our 2023 inventory and a 58% decrease from the 2011 baseline. And so these decreases are largely driven by reductions in our natural gas use in our buildings, the electrification and increases and alternative transportation modes for employee commutes. And so for more details on the inventories, you can find our published reports on the environmental sustainability webpage and keep an eye out for our next inventory, which will be for 2026 with the inventory work beginning next year. Thank you. And I'll pass it back to Jenny.

Great and just to wrap us up. So I'll briefly note as well that we're finalizing the electric grid capacity study or the electric grid capacity study. And that work is being completed in partnership with the city of Bellevue. So we will be sharing the results of that with council at the June 23rd study session. So look forward to diving in on that with council next month. But again, this is just an overview. More details can be found in attachment A and we will be back with the next quarterly update in September. So happy to answer any questions. Thank you so much.

I see, I think Council Member Parsi.

Thank you so much. This is really great. I love the progress that we're making. I was also wondering if it's possible for us to be able to see a kind of when we share ESAP updates, if it's possible to be able to see a status update on all the ESAP initiatives, because right now I can only see what's been accomplished, but I don't know what is not on track or what is being delayed or what we're not making progress towards, but I think it would really help the council to kind of see the full picture. I went through the ESOP dashboard and I see like a long list of things that we've maybe not started. So I think in the future, an update like that would be super helpful. Also, I wanted to ask you if we have a dashboard for community emissions. I think that's something that Councilmember Percory and I tried to find one time and we weren't able to, and that's something that I think would be fantastic to have.

I can take that question. So to your last question, we'll just start there. So we do have a sustainability dashboard on our sustainability page. where you can find our emissions inventory. We're actually in the process now of updating that with this data so that that will all be in one place and that can be tracked over time. The other piece to note then too is that we are, so all of that long list that you mentioned, that's our 2020 plan, right? The action by action update. So November is when we will be coming to council with a comprehensive update, what we call our annual report, where we'll provide that action by action update. Council can see that whole list. We'll also have a new dashboard that highlights all of the metrics that align with our new 2025 plan as well. So that's gonna be, I'd say that when we'll get all of those questions answered, these are intended to just be, again, these kind of, again, giving you all a peak or giving council a peak at the day-to-day, because there's a lot that goes into those, the summaries that we fit into one sentence, and we're just trying to provide a little bit more context to bring you along in that process, so.

Council President Stewart?

Yeah, thank you so much. Really appreciate this update. A lot of material here. Even though it looks like just a couple of pages, when you click into the inventory, there's a lot of work represented here. So for the listening public who's interested, I encourage folks to take a look. I wanted to just call out two things, mostly for my colleagues, but also maybe to get a little feedback. So on the grid capacity study, can't wait to see it. Looking forward to it. It does look like there's going to be some recommendations on permitting reform also included in that and process improvements. We, of course, already funded a study of our development services. So as a council, I'll be really looking forward to holding both documents at the same time and being able to help inform a future direction. Also, I wanted to flag with the greenhouse gas emissions, especially for the city and the choices that we have in front of us. I do really feel that the MOC will impact these trends, both in the emissions of our building, but also our fleet and the like. There are some, you know, big opportunities in front of us to really amplify how on track we are as a city. So I look forward to having more conversation with all of you about that as we go along. Thanks.

Council Member Procreo.

Thank you for the work on this. This is a really great document to read. I have a question about the e-bike, the PSC Transportation Emissions Reduction e-bike rebate grant. First of all, I'm just curious, why is this shared with Bellevue and Issaquah? What was the process for forgetting that. And then second of all, what is the breakdown for what money gets distributed to which municipality? I know it says Bellevue takes the lead and it's about 250 bikes in total, but what is the breakdown there?

Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out how far back we should go. So a number of Eastside cities, we adopted our plans around the same time in 2020. And we immediately began working together just to say, hey, there's some economies of scale that can come by collaborating. Our heat pump program is a great example of that, right? Energy Smart Eastside, Sarah was here last month to talk about that. And so where we find opportunities where one, we can be stronger and not compete against each other for grants, but actually come together and say, hey, we're gonna run the exact same program. Let's just join administrative kind of burdens, if you will, and create some economies of scale. It makes us more competitive for grants, where if we individually competed for those, we may not be awarded. So that's one reason why you saw that. The reason why it is just Bellevue, Issaquah, and Redmond is because those are the Eastside Climate Partners who had funding to match this grant program. Kirkland, Sammamish, and Mercer Island did not, as an example, right? So that's to your question on... Why did we partner with those cities? And it's the same thing actually with our Clean Buildings Incentive Program. Bellevue and Issaquah, similar, had funding for programs and it's a priority.

So that's why that's a shared program as well.

And again, those economies of scale, we can share some of the administrative burden. And I'll have to get back to you on the exact breakdown. I know for Energy Smart Eastside, we do it by household is how we, or population rather, is how we kind of identify how much of the grant gets distributed. So it's a more equitable way, not to say it's even cut across three cities when, you know, if Mercer Island received the same amount of grant funding as Bellevue, for instance, that's not necessarily equitable. So in terms of, again, those allocation of funds. So that's generally how we structure this, but we can get you the exact distribution of that. I can follow up via email with that.

That would be great. And I do have some other questions about the breakdown from the heat pumps that I will email to you.

Hopefully that context was helpful, and I'm happy to provide any more information. Yeah.

Council Member Kritzer, and just a request. We are running short on our time for the next agenda, but this would be probably the last question on this.

Just a quick question on the garbage cans excited to see that we're seems like we're going to smarter garbage cans. I'm curious, was there discussion on on our public garbage cans of adding more compost and recycling ability there? Or is that something that's like an upcoming discussion? Because since most of our public garbage cans don't all have those types of separation?

Yeah, so all of our public street cans are for trash only for landfill. It's primarily a contamination issue. When we get other recycling or compost in there, we find that it's trash that gets in those and it ends up going to trash anyway or to the landfill anyway. So that's why you'll only see landfill in our public spaces at this time.

And is there any discussion about adding separate garbage or separate cans that would not be for garbage, but for those other types of waste? public spaces.

Council member or if director Burt has any insight or I would just say no at the not at this time, we can also bring Jesse our solid waste manager. But again, if director Burt has anything else you'd like to add.

Okay, great for the listening public. We heard from our public works director that there'd be a ecology update coming forward in two weeks. So we'll look forward to that. Thank you.

Thank you so much. Moving to our next item on the agenda, which is Derpy Days 2026 update. And this will be presented by the fun team. We have, okay, I can see director Lauren Hamilton, the parks director, and Lindsay Tusing, and Brittany Pratt.

Good afternoon council. I'm actually joined by Laurel Williams. Who's our special events coordinator. Lindsay's not with us this evening and Brittany Prower manager. No worries council member. So today we're bringing a Derby days program update as summer approaches Derby days is around the corner. And so I'm going to hand this off to Laurel and Brittany for an update.

All right, good afternoon again, Council. We are excited to share information and the programming plan for this year's Derby Days, a summer festival celebrating Redmond since 1939. This item is information only, and of course, as always, we are here to take any feedback or questions that you have about the event. Each year, Derby Days welcomes 35,000 people between City Hall campus and our partnering location, the Jerry Baker Memorial Velodrome. Typically held on the second weekend of July. Derby Days 2026 will occur on Friday, July 24th and Saturday, July 25th. So it is a little bit of a different date this year and I wanted to call your attention to that. The reason for that is so that we can balance city resources with the Redmond is ready for the world initiatives around the World Cup this year. and I will pass it over to Laurel, who will share more about what you can expect to see at this year's event. Thank you.

First, I'd like to start by telling you a little bit more about Derby Days and why we celebrate it every year. As Brittany mentioned, it's our city's historic summer festival. It has a long history of community building and recreation since 1939, but it has grown far beyond that over many years. Derby Days is open to the public, it's free, and it brings together community members, visitors, and staff to celebrate the City of Redmond. It's also our city's biggest touchpoint with the community. It serves each year. The event team works every year to expand the event's ability to not only do these things, but to also intentionally help support meeting other goals and city plans, most notably the park plan. For Derby Days 2026, we're aiming to hit three of the park plan framework goals specifically. These are going to be building strong communities, expanding access for all, and protecting the natural environment. or on building strong communities we're going to do this in a few ways will be having activity booths hosted by local businesses and sponsors that will be bringing free games and activities and also provides them with the opportunity to connect with residents and foster relationships that continue to build after derby days. We'll once again have a craft market with over 70 artists selling their wares, giving them the opportunity to support their business to an audience of up to 35,000 people. The main stage will feature diverse live performances to get the crowd engaged with local music and other performing artists. We will have our very popular grand parade and kids bike parade that brings together nonprofits, local organizations, and residents of all backgrounds. The beer and wine garden will be back again this year. It's always very popular, along with a variety of vendors that will be selling food from different parts of the world. While the carnival is not able to join us this year due to the adjusted event dates, we have planned to fill the carnival space with inflatables, pop-up water slides, a splash pad, and bounce houses. We're also going to be adding in silent disco and a photo booth on Friday night, and we are making return of the foam party, which was a huge hit last year. Over at our partnering location, the Jerry Baker Memorial Velodrome, attendees can watch Olympic-level cyclists compete at the Marymoor Grand Prix, and younger riders are invited to race in the Kitty Kilo. The festival will conclude with a famous drone show back at the City Hall campus on Saturday night. To expand access for all, entry to Derby Days and the majority of the event elements are completely free to attendees. Our goal there is to make sure that financial means are not a barrier of entry for residents and tourists. Partnering with Microsoft allows us to provide a free ADA shuttle between campus and Redmond Town Center. And our city booths, as well as the cooling center at the Redmond Senior Community Center, allow us to promote ways that people can continue accessing city programs and services after the event ends. Well, we extend access to local businesses and community organizations through outreach efforts, inviting them to get involved. This started back in January this year. Currently we have five brand new sponsorships in addition to returning sponsors. We have 15 food vendors, more than 70 craft vendors, 48 activity booth applicants, which actually went up since we put together the proposal for today. and 17 organizations interested in participating in the Grand Parade. Beginning this month and continuing into July, outreach will expand to include prospective attendees, and we plan on reaching them through digital and print marketing campaigns. Following into protecting the natural environment, the third of the park plan goals we intentionally build around this event. We partner closely with public works and external vendors to utilize reusable cups in the beer and wine garden. This effort last year diverted 3,851 items and 185 pounds of waste from the landfill. That was just at last year's Derby Days alone. Instead of having a traditional parade with floats and cars that require non-renewable sources of power, we require entries to be human, animal, or bike-powered. Members of our Environmental Sciences Division review all of our event elements during the planning phase, and they give us conditions that will either remove or reduce the environmental impact of each of the event elements. Lastly, we have a stringent waste management plan that ensures that waste is disposed of properly throughout the event and that no waste or litter is left behind on campus once the event concludes. And I'm now going to pass it back over to Brittany to touch on the budget.

Okay, I get the dry numbers, but very important. The total event expenses to produce this year's event are estimated around 234,000. The funding for that includes 50,000 from the LTAC grant, 26,000 about in expected event revenue. That would be your fees from your booths or food vendor sales. Sponsorships totaling around $96,500 from Amazon, Microsoft, Evergreen Health, and Redmond Town Center, among several others. And then this year, one of the major hits is not having the carnival. So that actually produces a lot of revenue for us. So without the revenue of the carnival plus adding in expenses in order to replace the carnival with programming, that leaves us with a funding gap this year of around 61,000, but due to savings from previous years, we will be able to cover that gap with ending fund balance in the events fund this year. And we anticipate that the carnival will come back next year when we have it scheduled during its regular weekend. And that concludes the Derby Days 2026 overview. We're excited to take any questions you have.

First of all, thank you so much for your work in putting this together. And I want to just say, I think you're running a very, very tight ship. $234,000 for an event of this size, I think is remarkable. I personally would not have batted an eye if it was three or four times that cost. So thank you. And just to touch on what you said on helping folks for whom some of the items would be a financial burden. I know you mentioned the carnival is on pause for this year. It's going to make its return in 2027. But I personally would love to see, you know, pre or reduced tickets for folks who need that in an outreach program to make sure that they know that this is happening and that it's accessible for folks. So just wanted to get that. conversation started in preparation for next year.

Council Member Kritzer.

Thank you. It sounds like you're working really hard to plan a great event for our community, despite some of the issues with the carnival, which it seems like it's just the nature of this wild year with the World Cup. But excited for all those bouncy houses. That's going to be very exciting for our little kiddos. One thing I know last year when we approved the LTAC recommendations, one of the projects that we approved funding for was to bring the Criterium Bike Race back um, via funding a nonprofit, um, the Washington state bicycle associations project. Can you give us the update on what happened with that and whether there's conversations about, about that going forward?

Yes, I'm happy to. So the organization that we were going to partner with did apply separately for an LTAC and was granted funds. However, the funds that they were granted still would not cover all of the expenses it would take to host the Criterium. And so they decided not to work with us this year. And we reached out to a few other organizations, and expenses is still kind of a barrier for people to want to organize the Criterium in partnership with us. I think that we would have a lot more opportunity to do so when the carnival does make its return and we could be a little bit more flexible with the budget.

All right. Thank you. I guess I would just say if there is interest and cost is a barrier in this case, I would be interested because I think we've heard now from the community, especially given that Derby Days was founded because of this big bike race, for us to be able to look at how we make this feasible, especially if we hear from the nonprofit community, they're willing to help with this. But There may be some budget considerations for us to look at as we look at the budget going forward, would be interested in this upcoming budget cycle to have that conversation about what it looks like for a city contribution connected with, say, LTAC or other types of funding that can be pieced together by other partners to be able to look at the return of that. Other question is just, I know we used to have a Derby Days Dash, a race, a running race, not a bike race. And I wasn't sure whether that has ever been a consideration for bringing back at some point as well.

Okay.

We did remove that recently. I think it was before you were here at the city. So it's been quite a few years. You're right, but we can definitely take a look at that in future years. I think it's been a staffing consideration because it takes so much of our park staffing in order to run that race. Yeah, it's a really long day, but we can take a look at it in future years.

Yeah. So I think I remember during COVID, I think there was a virtual Derby dash. And then I just wanted to touch base on that since I thought it might be something that was kind of lost during COVID. So since we're, talking about it, put on the radar, recognizing it's not on the agenda for this year, but more my hopes for the future. Thanks. Thank you.

Council Member Forsyth and then Council Vice President Novakamint.

Thank you. I appreciate the comments about bringing back the bike race. I'm not going to come as a surprise that I'm still advocating and lobbying for that. I have been since the pandemic. But I would actually like to see it come back to the original roots of Derby Days and be a community bike ride versus the Criterium. Criterium's great. Elite cycling is very fun to watch, but we also have that partnership with Belladrome now, so we have a level of that elite cycling. So I would love to see this come back to the roots and be a community bike race next year, pretty please.

Council Vice President.

Thank you, I'm gonna be very short and very direct for sake of time. I'm happy to also email these for a response later. We heard that there's going to be accessibility from Microsoft Campus to RTC. What I didn't hear was what's the solution from RTC over to City Hall Campus. So an emailed response is fine.

Oh, sorry. I actually just think that was a misunderstanding or a miscommunication. The shuttles are Microsoft sponsored. They're their shuttle buses, but they come here to City Hall.

Wonderful. Thank you for that clarification.

Yeah. I just want to clarify that for anyone listening.

I was understanding it from Microsoft campus to- That wouldn't be helpful. Exactly. And then how many organizations were in the parade last year? If we have seen a continued decline. There was conversation about what can we do to increase the parade and also parade attendance. And then around the finances, understanding that there's a funding gap for this year. This year's a little, a little wonka-doodle, technical term, but it's a little wonka-doodle, and how are our costs, because costs overall are increasing, and what are we looking at projected moving forward and going back to Councilmember Kritzer's, what then should we be thinking about in our budget as we go into this cycle? Thank you.

Happy to touch on that unless one of you two wanted to. Oh, perfect. Great. Okay.

Thank you. Thank you so much, Director Hamilton, and Lindsay, and as well as Lauren. So we are moving to our last item on our agenda, which is approval of Progressive Design-Built Contract Agreements No. 1 with Lee Scratcher Lewis Washington, LLC of Seattle, Washington, for the Maintenance and Operations Center Campus Redevelopment Project. This is presented by Director Aaron Burt.

Good afternoon, Council. Aaron Burt, Public Works Director. I'm joined at the table by Eric Dawson and Diana Brown, who's our owner's rep on this project. Excuse me. TODAY WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE THINGS AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE BROUGHT FORWARD IN COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD OUR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS CENTER. THREE COMPONENTS. ONE IS IT IS AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT VALIDATION PROCESS. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE ASKING FOR A TWO-MONTH EXTENSION ON VALIDATION BECAUSE OF THE PURCHASE OF THE HEIDELBERG PROPERTY. So essentially what we've been doing for the past year is taking a look at all the programmatic needs for the new maintenance and operations center, looking at potential systems that would go into the new building, and then kind of is a request to front load some dollars for early purchase. So if you recall, at the senior and community center, there were some items as part of that build process that were delayed. logistical concerns, dealing with COVID was a part of it, but what we're finding for a large building of this nature, we need to pre-order components such as steel and mass timber, get our orders in now, elevators, switchgear, and components of light generators. These are very generic in terms of the components that we need. As part of the programmatic design and validation, we know, for example, more than likely, we are going to have a two-story maintenance and operation building. In that building, we're going to have probably two elevators. One, a standard passenger elevator, and two, a larger freight elevator for movement of goods between the two stories. In authorizing the early purchase or ordering of these items, we can get those long lead items into the queue now. So when we go into construction in about 20 months or so, they will be ready for us at that time. And especially this component with switchgear. So that's the major components to power the facility that has extensive lead time. So this is authorizing us money upfront in order to put in those orders. It doesn't mean we're going to be expending those funds immediately. It's just giving that budget authority for us as part of the overall project budget to spend now to get those long lead items. So that is kind of in a nutshell, the three major components within the package. Did receive an email from Council President Stewart. Thank you. I believe your question was asking about the extension or pulling out of this two month extended validation period. Was that correct? And what that impact would be? I just wanna make sure I get that correctly.

I would not characterize my question as exiting from a validation. I don't believe that that accurately characterizes my question. Maybe it's the short answer to it. If you want, I can state the question, which was one of my questions was about how long this additional validation will take place, because it makes a ton of sense that we have to now fit it to this site. And you've answered that. Thank you. And the second part of my question is, you have been preparing us and training us to get ready for this big moment at the end of validation. So once we have validated what we want to build, then we move on to these other pieces. And so I'll, since I have the floor, I'll just say, I'm a little nervous about starting to spend dollars when we don't yet know what we're building. So, and maybe you know it great, but we, the council have not been fully briefed on that. So that's where some of my concern is coming from.

Sure. And thank you for that clarification. And let me address that. So we're looking at once again, probably just a two month extended validation to deal with the Heidelberg site. The aspect of what are we going to be getting? That is what we deliver as part of the design process. What we validated right now are what are the programmatic needs to be successful for a 50 or 75 year facility? That deals with how much warehousing space do we need? How big should the water quality lab be? Generally, what are circulation spaces or shared use spaces that we can use for administrative functions between public works, parks, and facilities? The systems component is that issue of generally what will we need for the infrastructure to make this building or this facility successful? And that's what we're asking for the authority for the early authorization to build. We're not necessarily talking right now about carpet color, panels, building siding, or what the roof components are going to look like. But we do know that in progressive design build, and Diana can touch base on this as well with her experience on it, that if we don't get ahead of these long lead items now, it is going to cost us time and money on the back end. So this is actually one of the great benefits of progressive design build because you go into it understanding that these, this type of building will need certain systems and you can lean forward and begin to identify those. Whereas normally when you go through design bid build, those items wouldn't be ordered until after a bid was opened at the end. So it's a time and cost saving component. Diana, if there's anything else you want to add to that in your experience with this.

I think just kind of to start, to summarize what you were saying and maybe hit it home a little bit is that progressive design build allows us to overlap design and construction to save us time in escalation. So escalation right now, we're running about 4%. 4% on a $170 million job is pretty significant. And so we are... as a team working to identify where we can compress that schedule um and so this amendment number one to the progressive design build contract that was signed back in september allows us to compress the schedule and um i would say we have uh we've been working with the design build team for six months now six or seven months and we have about I would say our validation report is 85 percent there the only thing that's really missing is the site and that's because we just bought Heidelberg and so from that standpoint we're very confident that these two months of just site I wouldn't say it's evaluation because we've already done the evaluation of the site we have done high level sketching of what things fit where, but we really want to make sure that we're validating everything on that site before we move into phase one. And so we're asking for that two months extra validation before we move into phase one. We do have a trigger in the contract language amendment that says that we will give them a notice to proceed. Director Burt will give them a notice to proceed once we finalize that. that final site package for validation to move into phase one. And then from there, we also have a trigger in the contract for any early procurement purchases to be authorized by Director Burt. During that time that makes sense for us to actually allow them to pull the trigger on on purchasing those long lead items.

And on that as well, in terms of the what are we building? What is it going to look like? That is the aspect as we get into design where we come back to council at certain fixed points to present and show the scope and elevation of the project as it's progressing. building shape, function, what's it gonna look like outward facing, the choices and the trade-offs that we're making for that building, all to have that discussion to get us to that GMP price, which right now the project budget, 268.5 million, take out the 40 million of money that we're putting forward for the Heidelberg, then that leaves us at what is it do some math here about 225 and we have to account for all the soft costs tax overhead design costs our overhead internally so you're looking at probably a hard project budget of about 160 million dollars or so that we need to build to and that's what this Progressive design working with the contractor during the design process brings us to that point where we say This is the maximum price We're good with being able to build it under these conditions and delivering on these components of the program And that's where the phase two Design, excuse me phase two amendment comes back to Council Councilmember Parsi

I wanted to see if I can kind of bridge that gap between what the Council kind of can be maybe aligning better on. Would it be possible for the Council, at least, I know that the final construction will be, you know, implementation and we don't know yet what that will look like. Would it be possible to align on the outcomes and the goals and the success criteria that we would be looking at so we can kind of align on that aspect of the project?

Yes, so as part of the master planning process that we did to get us to the point before we decided to move for the progressive design build, we had put in certain programmatic goals in there and that's also reflected in the ballot, will be reflected in the final validation report. We can pull those out and bring those back to council and say these are the programmatic goals that we're striving to achieve on that and receive the feedback from the council as well.

Just one small note, I think something that that would maybe make it easier for council is to try and be as rock solid on the numbers as possible, because we've heard, for example, the $268 million budget ask, but in our packet, we got an attachment that amends the current appropriated budget of 225 to $250 million. So I feel like sometimes we're being a little bit wishy-washy with the numbers, and I understand it's a big project, timelines are changing with progressive design build, even construction costs can increase in that possible time. But just try to be as rock solid as possible for a project of this magnitude would be.

Yes, totally understand that, Councilmember, and thank you. Just as a reminder, we were operating off of the $250 million budget, and I know there's a mistake on the project description sheet in there that we need to get corrected. When I said $268.5 million, what we talked about last week at executive session was With the $40 million land purchase, we had to increase the project budget in order to account for that. But then we're backing that land purchase out that won't be available for the construction budget. So that's where I'm coming back and saying roughly about 225 is what it's going to be for us to be able to work off of. But we can get those numbers updated for sure.

Council Member Gritzer? I have a couple questions. I'm wondering whether just given the time on this item, we might want another touch. And I'm not sure whether we can make time on either a future committee or or study session for this before we bring this to a vote. I don't know, I guess the question would be is it since this isn't the committee, we'd usually see this and maybe maybe it is because it's because of facilities, but but typically, I'd imagine we see it in planning and public works. Is it possible for us to delay so we can have a little more time to discuss this?

I mean, that's obviously the council's prerogative. We brought this forward because we are on a certain timeline, because every month that we delay, that is a cost that we are incurring. But if the council would like to put it on 2PW next week... I mean, that's up to the council member foresight, or we could also bring it to new business at the business meeting next week as well for additional discussion. It's whatever you choose.

Madam chair, if I could be helpful, maybe could we get a round of a thumbs up for folks who are interested in having a second touch on this item? That way we know if this is a planning item, an item we need to make room for, I can see the, the chair. So if folks are interested in having additional questions answered and another touch, only seeing two, only seeing three. So that is not a majority of the council. Okay, that's not helpful. So we may need to, we are over time, Madam Chair. So We may need to work to not have this item on consent and maybe find another touch in committee if there's one available. There's not one available next week. So we'll have to be a bit creative, but I'm happy to work with you. Council leadership's happy to work with you on that.

Sure. There's a quick question from Council Member Kritzer.

If we're not going to have another touch, I guess I would support putting this on new business so that way we can ask additional questions. I'm happy to send my questions via e-mail. and then follow up on those as part of voting on this item in new business.

Yeah, that sounds like a plan. Any objections with this? Can you have a thumbs up if we want to move this as a new business item for our six to business meeting and then make a decision from that?

Yes, and yeah, if you could send me any questions that you have, we'll make sure we get those answered before the committee or excuse me, the business meeting.

Thank you so much, Director Burt and team.

Thank you.

And with this, we are at the end of the agenda. Sorry, it's delayed, but thank you so much for your patience. The meeting is adjourned.