Heritage Commission - Regular Meeting

How many committee members do you have on this? Sorry. Nine. Nine, eight, seven, somewhere nine. We have seven active folks. Mhmm. And we have two people that are joining us virtually. And I know one more actually might be joining virtually, and someone's out of town right now. Everyone.

Hey, everybody.

K. I have swallowed my bread, which is still busy. And with that, let's call this to order. 05:30. Thank you. Would you mind doing roll call?

Let's see. Chair Miller? Present. Chair or vice chair Hicks? Present. Commissioner Knight? Present. Commissioner Stevan? Commissioner Patrick? It might be actually yep. There she is. Oops. We're promoting you to a panelist right now also. Mark you as present. Commissioner Henley, commissioner Becker? Yes. And commissioner Carter?

Present. Right.

K. We have a quorum.

And then next on the agenda, we've got let's see.

I have

a copy. Oh, you've got a copy? Okay.

I I wasted paper too.

No. No.

That's I I meant to. I like having paper.

Approval of the agenda is the next item. So give you all a few seconds to read the agenda. Let us know if there's any questions or adjustments. K. Anyone have anything to add?

Hearing not, let's approve it by a consensus.

Okay. Also,

in the packet is our meeting minutes from the January 22 meeting. Give you all just a second to read through those and just speak up if you have any questions or potential changes. Okay. Hearing none. I see we approve this consensus as well.

That brings us to public comment.

Okay. So we've got some guests here with us today, and they can introduce themselves. But it's really exciting. They're from the LNP Music History Project, which started off as a heritage commission project.

Yes. It did.

So I'll let everyone introduce themselves and kinda tell the group what what the project's up to right now. Going on.

Sure. Do I'm you wanna Mark

Lee Morrison, and I do a number of music adjacent things in the community. That's my primary bread and butter, so to speak. So, yeah, I I I book the Schirler Sundays concert series just a couple blocks away, the old Carnegie Library, podcaster, radio host, and officially serving as the editor on board with Olympia Music History Project as well as a interviewer. And I I'm having the time of my life. I love this work.

It's it's really feel very fortunate to be a part of it and very excited for where it's going.

My name is Mariel Luz. I am a full time artist. As a primarily as a ceramicist these days, I have lived and worked in Olympia for about thirty years. I have been in music industry or was in the music industry for about twenty of those years. And before I started when before Marflee and I started the music history project, officially with Kelsey, we were both interviewers for the original project, which started in August 2022.

And y'all are aware that it was initially a project with the city of Olympia. After the first round of interviews, which was conducted primarily with window seat media with Markley and I's partner, Kelsey Smith. The city decided that it wanted to, like, pretty much end the project. It couldn't really see a how the work that we had done would coexist on a on the city website primarily. So we were given permission to sort of take over the project, and now we have a website, which is olympianmusichistoryproject.org.

Y'all should check it out. The first round of interviews that we did are all posted there. Mark Lee did an excellent job of auditing or I'm sorry. Editing all of the audio, which is great to listen to, and the transcriptions are also available to read. We worked with local artist or Northwest artist Jack Hebeger, and he drew all of the portraits on on the website, which are really fantastic to look at.

They make for a really awesome cohesive project, and we're sort of moving on from there. On that website, you'll find sort of the history of the project itself. When Kelsey and Elaine started the project, they realized that the topic of Olympian music history was incredibly broad, and they decided to focus the project from 1980 to 2002, which sort of oh, yeah. These are the often portraits, which was just a way to sort of maintain the way that we looked at these interviews. And they're primarily focused around music festivals that happened during this period.

Primarily, the International Top Underground, happened in 1991, Yo Yo Yo Go Go, and Homo Go Go. So, yeah, that's what these are. Maybe Markley can tell you what's what we're up to now.

Yeah. So right now, we have we're in the middle of doing another round of interviews. I've done two more so far, two more planned for next week. Marty's done one recently. Mhmm. Kelsey just interviewed a couple. Get up to 10 more Mhmm. And then put them through the same process that we did with the rest of these. But, yeah, broadening, excuse me, broadening the scope there and just it's it's really great to see it unfold because they all the stories do complement one another. Like, you hear different angles on similar experiences.

We are doing a number of events through the rest of the year. Up next, we're gonna be doing a guest appearance at the Saint Martin's media and culture class. That's on March 6. Later that same night, we have a fundraiser at the brotherhood. Coming up in April or May, we'll be doing a presentation at Evergreen.

ArtsWalk, we're gonna be collaborating with Community Prints for a a show and q and a, and just people can come and check out what we're doing and where we're going with the project. Let's see. We've got a presentation coming up at the Olympia library that will be focused on the transfused, which, if you don't know, was a musical rock opera written and produced here in Olympia, in 2002. And we're gonna be

Two actually, 2000 because this is the twenty fifth twenty five twenty five year anniversary of.

Oh, sure. Thank you.

Mhmm. Yeah.

Nice. So, yeah, that's gonna be really a special thing. We got people who put it together, and I'm sure many of the 100 or more people who are involved in the original production will be in attendance and probably chiming in as well. And this summer, we are having a all day concert presentation at Schirler Sundays, which, as I mentioned, the concert series that I book where we're gonna be focusing on bringing in musicians who are active during this 1980 to 2002 period. So a lot of folks that maybe people haven't seen in a long time locally will be, you know, reuniting.

Some of them still live here, but, like, say, Pet Products is a band that started in 1980, I wanna say, 8081. And short lived band, they're reuniting. And, yeah, a number I I don't think I can quite announce the lineup for that just yet, but that'll be a really fun showcase all day and free to the public. And we're working on a digitization grant.

Mhmm.

To get YoYoAgogo festival footage and audio tape as well as other recorded material from YoYo recordings, which

Yeah. We're working with UW and MOPOP for that. That's a collaboration grant because those grants are quite large. And then in the fall, we also have a presentation that we, I think, just confirmed with the Washington State History Museum. Yeah.

Cool. Cool. Yeah.

So

Yeah. The list like Mark Lee said, we we're doing 10 more interviews this round. I think our list initially from that Elaine and Kelsey put together from focus groups and stuff was well over 200. I think this this round, I think, is about 20. I think that's

27. 27.

27 individuals. Twenty four, twenty five interviews.

Yeah.

So even if and that's just from this period. So we're hoping that we probably won't exhaust that 200 folks list, but to kind of start there and and see how much progress we can make sort of documenting this whole industry. Very cool. Cool. Yeah. And so I guess, I would love to maybe get some dates that I can email out to the group so that Oh, sure. Parts can, you know Maybe we can email them to you. That way you can have the exact days and times. That would be awesome. Thank you.

And we are also gonna be at ArtsWalk, and I talked to Kelsey about potentially having some table space possibly. If you've got a choir pointing to your event, I'm sure that we'd be able to kinda help cross pollinate or cross. Sure. Yeah. Where where where will y'all be for?

In front of Captain Lowell with the city. We'll be next. Yeah.

Oh, right right in that Washington

Crosswalk area. Yeah. Okay.

Cool. Wonderful. Does anyone have any questions for us?

Are those dates gonna be on the website also?

Yeah. Yeah. Our website, we haven't we just launched in January. So we our web designer, we, like, built it with lots of capacity that we're still figuring it out. We're like, we should send out a newsletter. How do you do that? You know? But yeah.

It's fresh up. There's enough to keep people busy on that website for a pretty long time. Yeah.

Yeah.

And we're, yeah, we're working on populating it. Yeah.

One of Mark tasks right now is to we've gotten lots of community feedback, and Mark Lee is very kindly sifting through that and making corrections when necessary.

I feel like I really like the look of the website. It just kind of evokes the old, you know, black and white concert poster kind of feels. It's cool. Yeah.

They did a great job. You know, we wanted to have, like, a flyers slash zine vibe.

Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Any questions from the virtual folks?

No specific questions, but I've had a chance just to look through the site. It does look really awesome. I'm just really excited for all the the upcoming events and everything that's gonna be happening going forward. Can't wait to see what's the next round of interviews are.

So Yeah. Mark, did you wanna say who you've interviewed, Keith? Yeah.

So far, I have interviewed Jared Warren from Carp, Arrington to Dioniso, a old time religion, and we spoke a lot about the Olympia Experimental Music Festival. Mhmm.

Which is, I think, reviving this year.

Is it reviving? Okay. They're bringing it back. That's good. Mhmm. Next week, I'm gonna be interviewing Chris Sutton, who's in dub narcotics sound system, engine fifty four, c o c o minibans.

Got a name.

After that.

Yeah. Hornet leg.

Hornet leg. Yeah. And so I'm excited to talk to him next Tuesday, I believe. And then on the weekend, I'll be interviewing Kento Oiwa.

Yeah. Igu.

Yeah. Igu. Mhmm.

And thus far, I've already interviewed Slim Moon, who was the founder of The Rockstars, and I'm interviewing Stella Mars, who was a local artist from that time.

Who inspired our look.

Yes. Mhmm.

Very much. And and Kelsey interviewed Josh Plague

Oh, yeah.

And Julie Lari. Mhmm. Yeah.

Yeah. Couple questions. Mhmm. Are you a full five zero one c three? I think you have a fiscal sponsor, right, with Shunpike? That's right. Okay. And beyond contributing monetarily, are there other ways that community members can contribute or volunteer to work with you guys as you continue to build the organization? What are you looking for for

Yeah. Steps and stuff too? We can always use a little bit of web help. We we worked with some we work with someone right now who was formerly of the Evergreen Archive. So as we sort of build out the website, we're always looking for a little bit of help with that, especially people who have, like, really good organizing skills.

And and also connecting us with folks who when I first started doing my first round of interviews, it was really important to me to interview folks who identified as LGBTQIA or people of color. So if there are people in that you haven't seen on this list that you think might be someone that we should interview, please let us know because I think that it's important to include historically excluded voices. Mhmm. And connect us with opportunities too. Sometimes we meet people at events who are like, hey.

You should come and do a thing here. Like, that's how we got some I think someone came to one of our events that was at the to talk about the Washington State History Museum. So if there are places that you think we would be a good fit to present, that's always awesome too.

Okay. So beyond sort of expanding the interview database and getting the project out there at different events, do do you have any other visions for where this thing could go in the future? Yeah.

Definitely. So we we also want to prioritize getting more, like, visual, big, like like, old flyers, theme stuff would be great. I I definitely think that we'd have a potential book on our hands here in the oral history Yeah. Collection. Right? Mhmm. And so I'm always, especially while I'm editing, I'm always thinking about, like, that and how I'm like, oh, you can take this piece here and this piece here and there. You've got, like, a chapter for me. And you know? So

That's cool.

Definitely keeping that in mind as well.

Stacy, to your question about what kind of help are we looking for, our website has the capability to, like, link to, like, YouTube videos, but we one of the things that is really hard for us is basically volunteers and as you as historic preservationists might know is, like, authorization. So if someone sends us a video, then it we can't just be like, oh, cool. We'll just put it on the Internet. We have to get, like, all the proper permissions from the bands, the people who made it, you know, all those sorts of things. So that's been this really large thing that we haven't been able to to tackle yet.

Even with flyers, things that don't like, nonoriginal content needs lots of approval before it goes on the Internet. So if you know someone who has a lot of enthusiasm for that kind of work, you should send them our way. Mhmm. We'd like to be able to, you know, highlight some of this stuff. Because, you know, there are those of us who might like to read things or listen to things, but lots of folks also wanna watch things if they have opportunities. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Not that there's a ton of video

from that From that era.

From that era. Mhmm. But sure there there's some out there. We know there is some.

Yeah. So trying to expand the website, doing some in person things. So we've gotten someone actually did approach us about about a week. So yeah.

Are you finding audio recordings of performances out there and more videos?

Oh, yeah. Justin and John Broger had some audio stuff, and there are more more of those things. But that's even actually rougher than the video. Because I think with the video, your brain can kind of Yeah. Whereas sometimes with the audio, it can be and our technology now, like our little pocket computers, records so much better than a lot of that stuff from the eighties that it's our expectations have really grown over the last forty years in that realm.

And a lot of the tape has deteriorated.

Mhmm. Hence, the Yo Yo project.

K. Cool. Great.

Thanks a lot for having us. Thank you very much.

Yeah. Same to you.

And, Brittany, I'll email you with those dates and stuff. Yes. Please do. I will follow-up with, like, maybe a little recap of the notes that I took as well so you can feel free to edit before I send it out to the group to make sure it's all correct. Awesome. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you all,

Alma. Great meeting you.

Likewise. Thank you.

Alright. See y'all on the streets. Yeah.

Okay. Announcements.

Announcements. Staff announcements. Did everyone turn in their stipend form? That's coming up. So if you want to turn that

in No. But it was

Okay. If you were planning on it, please keep in mind that it's coming up soon. But other than that, no announcements at this time. Can look forward to the next thing.

Anyone else have any announcements? Okay. No no super exciting news out there.

It's okay too.

No news is a good news. Okay. Let's move on to business items. And first order of business is the land use and urban design chapter update.

Greetings. My name is David Guenther. I'm a senior planner here at Citi and, in the community planning and economic development department. Thank you for having me tonight. I'm gonna pause for a second so I can screen share the presentation. And what is all of it? Okay.

There's a guy.

There we go. Okay. Just to double check, everybody can see the presentation just fine? Alright. I see a thumbs up. Thank you. Alright. The update to the land use and urban design chapter is part of Olympia twenty five 2045, which is part of the the periodic update to the city's comprehensive plan. I'm gonna start off with the values and vision statement, which is at the very beginning of the chapter. And wanted to point out, I did underline it here that the that historic buildings and places is right there at the very beginning of the chapter under what Olympia values.

So it is it is a important part of the comprehensive plan and this chapter as well. And I'm gonna go through there are a lot of sections to this chapter. I'm just gonna list them here. I'm not gonna go through all of these with you. I've done that in some other presentations, and it does take quite a while.

But I do encourage you to take a look at the chapter. It's it's roughly 65 pages. And for for me, it's an it's it's a good read, but it really gives a lot of background and information on where what the city plans to do, what what's important to the community, and where the city's going in regards to all all aspects of land use. And you can see the fourth bullet down here, urban design, historic structures, built form. That's a section where the the it folk that's the focus of of tonight's meeting for you.

There's quite a I'm just gonna go down this list very quickly here for you. Starts off with the introduction where the values and vision statement is. We've got a a decent section or decently thorough section on land use and design. Moving on down those list, I'm just gonna skip a few here. We address industrial areas, urban quarters, focus areas, housing, downtown, and other neighborhoods.

And appendices, I've I've got on this list because that actually contains the the land use map and the which is also in the plan elsewhere, and the designations for all the land use land use designations around the city. Okay. I mentioned that I I just did a word count because I wanted to see how often historic is mentioned in the chapter, and it's 60 times. And starting off with the vision statement, which I've probably mentioned a few times here, there are goals and policies specific to that and then along in the narrative as well. The section or the goals, g l three, g l four, and g l five, those are just g l just means goal land use.

That's where the the focus is for the historic policies and goals. And so I'll be showing you some of those in here tonight and some of the proposed changes to those. What I'd be looking for is any comments you have on those changes. And if you if you did get a chance to read part of the chapter prior to the meeting, if you have any comments on other sections, feel free to let me know. That's really what I'm looking for is any any comments or questions you may have tonight.

Starting off with g l three, under that is these two policies, which have some proposed changes to them. And the first one there, the real key there is adaptive reuse of existing structures. We wanted to get that in there. Even our even the arch staff and yeah. Both both of these the staff that work in the arch and the Creative District, they thought it was they also thought it was important to encourage the adaptive reuse of of existing structures really opens up the ability to to use these assets.

These are assets part of the community here. So you you feel free to blurt out something or a comment when we're going through these. So don't be shy about that. I encourage interruptions. Dave. And your liaison here, Britney Galeo, she was quite helpful in reviewing these sections. In fact, she went through the whole chapter and had some suggested changes. So I don't wanna take credit for all of these. The these she had some really good points and some good suggestions, so wanted to thank her for that. I Thank you, David.

You're quite welcome. I I'm not sure if it'd be best for me to actually read these off, but I think it maybe I'll maybe I'll ask this first. Is that readable for all of you? If not, I certainly can read those off. Oh, yeah. It's readable. Okay. Sometimes it can get a little bit redundant when someone just reads exactly what's on the screen to you. So I I try not to do that too much, but sometimes it's necessary. K.

I'm just gonna move on this one. That one mentions adaptive reuse and the alternative preservation tactics. So and keep in mind, the comprehensive plan is the broad policy statements, so it doesn't get into too much in the way of detail. We leave that up for the individual, the zoning code, specific plans, and other projects that the city implements at the direction of the comprehensive plan. Moving on the g l four.

Excuse me. In this one, we did some some changes here just to the the the way that it was organized, but we think that these changes really help clarify this and add add add well, they they add clarity to it. The one on the bottom there, that one was added, but I wanted you to see that because historic neighborhoods talking about preserving, preservation of historic neighborhood identity. But as an important component of what the city council is looking at approving is called middle housing, and that is infill within existing neighborhoods. So that infill needs to be accommodated, but also needs to take into account the existing neighborhood, its identity.

So that's why that second portion is in there.

I have a Oh, yes. Question there, one, where you say the word scale. Scale is nice, but what about style? You know? Because just because it's the same height or width doesn't necessarily help it fit in.

K. Excellent. Thank you.

With quest clarifying question. Mhmm. When you say style and, like, scale, is it the overall compatibility, or is it are you more focused on the design specifically?

Good question. Both, really. Yeah. The design is is pretty important. Yeah.

Okay. Right.

Okay. Thank you for pointing that out. It's exactly why I'm here tonight asking for your help on these and get your your input. You're the experts on the historic preservation and historic aspects of the city, so I appreciate, any help that you are able to provide. Alright.

As you can tell, this one is significantly rewritten, but it's it's along the same lines. And it's really talking about, making sure that the that we, further expand what, the I need to start over there. Excuse me. With this one, it's a rework of the the language that is crossed off, but it it really expands it and and helps clear clarify that there are more groups rather than just what was mentioned there. And we wanna take take special care with Olympia's history and heritage.

So rather than read it and try to summarize it, I'll just let you take a quick look at that. And if you have some questions or comments on this one, please let me know. Okay. I did a very short presentation for you tonight, and I really tried to pull out the policies and the amendments to those policies that were the most pertinent and the ones that I I thought would be good to get your input on. If you have other other sections or spot anything else, let me know.

And this isn't the the end of public input or you or your input. So as we move through this process, feel free to let me know. Reach out. I've got my email at the end here. You can go on the city website as well for the Olympia twenty forty five web page. My contact info is on there for this chapter. Just to give you a little bit of a timeline for this, last it it really started with a briefing at planning commission last July. There was an open house shortly after that. I went to a council subcommittee in October. Social justice and equity commission looked at this just a few just a couple weeks ago or a few weeks.

Obviously, tonight, you're right there in the middle of the the pack. And then I do have planning commission next month. I I believe it's the March 17. And following that not following it, but right about that time is when I wanna start the public outreach for for this project with meetings, possibly a questionnaire, maybe an open house as well. So you're getting in right at the beginning, and then we'll really start the start the big push to get the public involved and get their input on this.

So late summer to fall is when city council and the council committee will take a look at this again. And here's the contact info for you. If you just go to the city of Olympia website, you can type in the address here. But if you go to the website and just type in Olympia Of 2045, you'll you'll be able to find the the web page. Also, if you want to stay up to date on what's going on with each of the chapters, we send out an email every month to the parties of record.

All you have to do is email me, ask to be put on the party of record, and you'll get those monthly updates. And then you also can sign up for the e newsletters for the planning and development version of that as so if if you're interested, I encourage you to do one or both of those things. We do it monthly. The e newsletters go out monthly, and then party of record goes along with that as well. Alright.

If you need my contact info, this is the main, email down at the bottom for the project. And so Joyce Joyce Phillips, our principal planner, is managing the entire update, all of the chapters. And so both her and I checked this email, and we're using this as a central email. Alright. I'm gonna stop share there. And alright. I I hope that was I hope that was a little bit, informative for you, and I will turn it back over to sir.

Thank you

very much.

We have some time for some questions?

Yeah. I just have, I have one quick question or or comment. That was great, David. Thank you so much. In the final policy update that you showed on the screen, you don't have to reshare. I just I thought of it after the fact after you'd move to the next slide. In the language that you had there, it didn't, like, it didn't explicitly mention, like, local indigenous communities. It's, like, kind of it was, like, kind of captured in the language that was there, I wonder if it's worth thinking about whether or not those communities should be named explicitly, in that kind of context or or if implicit is sufficient and just came to mind after the fact.

Yep. We I I think that would be fine. I can I can put that in there? We do mention the the local tribes and a few other sections of of that chapter.

Okay. Great.

And one of the other chapters I'm working on actually added a whole section. It's a public participation and partners chapter. I actually added a whole section related to the the it's on agreement. It's not a memorandum. The accord the accord with the Squaxin tribe. So we are working to integrate that in, and I'm glad you pointed this out. I think that's a good spot for it. Thank you.

Great. Thank you.

So, David, are they so if you were to go to the Olympia 2020, 2045, is is there a way to read the chapters with proposed changes? Is that available?

If if they've been if they've been published for public review, yes. I on for this chapter, I don't have a version to release yet. I'm still working on it. I I would like to get a little bit more public input so I can make some of those changes that that are suggested by the community before I release it. I'm I'm shooting for a release in early April, and that will be on the on the web page for this.

Right now, I believe I've got the I'll have to double check, but I thought I had asked for the the version the existing and current version that you got in your packet. I believe that one's on the web page. I I already asked for it to be on there. I'm not sure if it got up there yet, though.

Okay. So if we wanted to review the whole comprehensive proposed changes early April would be the time to do that then,

Just just for this chapter. Many of the other chapters

It's gonna be

Yeah. It it's a little difficult to keep track of where all the chapters are in the review and pub public input and public participation. There's several of them that are ready to go to council for approval. They've been through numerous steps of the review process and public participation parts. You should be able to take a look at the web page, which has a separate web page for each of the each of the plans.

And if they've gotten to the point where they have a recommendation from planning commission, that will be on there, and they should have the version the public release version along with that. That's what we've been telling our team to do. So we have a team member for each of the chapters that's responsible for updating web page and and shepherding along the the the update to the chapter all the way through the review process.

Okay. Great. Thanks. Any other questions? No?

Thanks for sharing that.

Oh, you're quite welcome. Thank you for having me.

Thanks, David. Thank you.

You're quite welcome.

Okay.

Next item of business is the approval of amended bylaws.

Did actually, I so the packet went out. Did everyone have a chance to read, or would you like me to print a copy of that I

I have a copy. I just have a question, though, and I wasn't a 100% sure if I screwed up if it was but there were two files in there, the rules of procedure and then the bylaws. Yes. It looks like the exact same

One was the original, and one was the proposed new version.

Okay. And so

2007 was the what we currently have.

And Okay. I see it now.

Proposed bylaws from today's date is

the Okay. So I was just throwing okay. It was just the naming of the thing that threw out. So I didn't know if that was a separate document.

Renamed it. That's just the way the file is

named in our system. I get it. Sorry. I get it. That that was me pending step five minutes for the.

And so for this item, we've actually got a bill to present on behalf of the committee.

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Happy to do it. So just to give a a general overview of the update. So as was mentioned, the bylaws haven't been updated since 2007, so they're coming up on eighteen years of not being updated. And a lot lot has changed since then. So they were in need of an update. So Britney took a very extensive look through the bylaws and made some proposed changes, and then those of us on the pod committee took the time to also review those suggestions and weigh in and leave some comments and and met with Britney to to discuss them. I think the big thing to highlight is that nothing in the proposed changes is a move away from, like, the way that we currently operate.

It's just kind of rectifying errors that were identified in the bylaws that, you know, should be corrected. So the bylaws are updated just to reflect the current meeting location and the fact that we have hybrid meeting capabilities. They also, in the proposed updates, provide some clarity on the joint review committee procedure and just bringing, like, the general expectations in line with council advisory committee standards. So the proposed changes are going to remove language about needing a committee to appoint the chair because that's something that we've been doing as a full group. And then also clarifying that, for instance, volunteers can be involved with committee work as long as they're not on the heritage review committee because that's a group that has the authority to make decisions.

So, again, not deviating from anything that we're currently doing, but really just updating the bylaws to reflect the way that we have been working.

Excellent. If anyone has any questions, I don't know if anyone had a chance to read through it before the meeting.

If anyone wants me to share my share the screen with it up, I can pull them up as well. Does anyone need a visual reference?

I got it on my phone. So I'm like, wait.

I read

through it all.

Yeah. No. That too.

Looks good.

Yeah. No. It looks great. And I I wanna thank everybody for working on this. This has been something that's been on the Heritage Commission's list for a while, and it just never really got done. And here we are, already making great progress. So thanks, everybody.

So can we

have a formal motion? Yes. We need to formally adopt that, I think, is the next step. So I think we'll I think what we should probably do is just start with the motion, and then we

can have some discussion if

needed and then vote. So would anyone like to make a motion? Do you approve? Move to adapt.

Adopt. Or adopt. Or

adapt. Fifty seconds.

Fifty seconds. Okay. Is there any discussion on the matter? Okay. Hearing none, let's do a roll call for it if you don't mind. You wanna do that, Britney?

Well, oh, this is the most formal week.

I know. We've done so.

I will read through to have commissioner say, yay, your name is what okay.

That'd be great.

Chair Miller?

Yay.

Vice chair, Hicks? Yes. Commissioner Knight?

Yes.

Commissioner Patrick? Yes. Commissioner Becker?

Yes.

And commissioner Cotter?

Yes.

K. It's approved unanimously. So good work, everyone.

Good job. Okay.

We're moving through the business items here. The third and final item on the list on the agenda is the approval of the 2025 work plan.

We're talk very slowly. I'm gonna run and get some copies right on the

And we're gonna talk very take a quick break while Brittany grabs some copies with us. Do you do you have I assume you have copies of the website available in front of you online.

That's it. Sorry.

No worries. Not to make you online jealous either, but since we're gonna break in, we get another piece of bread.

I I was right next to you on that one. I was like, oh, bread. It works. He just remembered it was there. He's. Salty too.

Oh, bread break.

Yeah. Bread break. Oh my god. I'm

just trying to make down there. I

think I worked my forty hours. I I think I worked at my forty hours, three and a half day more.

Yeah. Remember the. Yeah. For the folks who are joining virtually, would you would you like a virtual version if you had it pulled up in your own screens already? I have

it pulled up.

I'm gonna pull it up right now.

Melissa, are you okay, or did you want it pulled up?

I I have it pulled up, I think.

Also, new banks. Oh, nice. New banks.

They're very cute. Mhmm.

I got a new root canal too.

Oh, okay. Yeah. That's.

Not a lot of cheers for that one, but we're glad you're doing well.

Sorry about the lighting here. This is, like, as bright as this hotel room gets. I'm so confused. Also, there's no dresser.

Where are you?

I'm in Dallas It

Oh, okay.

But I don't know what it's a decent size room. They have the bathroom is, like has two doors to go in it one way and I'm like, they kinda closed that wall up and put a dresser there. Where am I supposed to put my underpants?

Oh, dresser. That's fair.

Alright. Let's keep this public meeting neutral here. I'm kidding. Kinda kidding. It's just public. Yeah. That is weird that there's no dresser. I've never been in a hotel that doesn't have that.

I know. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Okay. Okay.

You are are you leaving this one?

Yes. So if everyone would like to take a look, the work plan the 2025 proposed work plan includes all of the changes that we had looked at last month. And so this is all the changes have been accepted. And so if everything looks good, this document can move forward. I'd like to point out that one of the committees has formally been erased from the front page, and those activities have been spread to different groups.

I would also like to point out that some additional points of, like, tasks and activities for the commission committees were added to reflect the things that we've all discussed. Let's see. So looking first at the marketing and outreach committee, heritage month, community engagement, and partnerships and events. Something that's new is the educational workshop series that's been discussed, and then also the picnic social that was requested at our retreat and kind of started from there. So if everyone wants to take a look to see if there's any final final changes that you'd like to propose, I do have a very teeny tiny budget number in there because we still, like I think what the best path forward budget wise will be for us to see what our scope is for 2025 and 2026.

And then when the city does their budget, I can bring that request to my department, and then they can include it. But as it's budgeted right now, there isn't additional money at this time. So even though we're requesting a little bit, we it's still the same as last month, but we technically don't have a budget. But so I think it's nice that we're all thinking about the projects that we want to do so we can account for them and request them with the city formally for next budget cycle within the city. Does anyone have any questions about the marketing and outreach committee section?

I do have on the next one that goes with that too. So heritage personal training under the committee. Mhmm. On a new member orientation twenty twenty five retreat is under board retreat. Mhmm. Or commission retreat. Just wanna clarify, sir. Mhmm. Okay.

So the twenty twenty five retreat is where that $50 budget line item was intended toward because Yeah. If there were to be additional trainings, that's something that I think the grant would be required. But at least that would allow us to get some refreshments Okay. For next for this upcoming year. Continuing forward, the commission bylaw update, we can look that in our work plan and check it off

because we

are just we did it. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice to show the city council what our progress has been. This has been a standing item on the work plan, so it'll be really nice to check that off.

Sure.

The update to municipal code, that is something that the POG committee is aware of the general direction, and I'm sort of waiting for some internal direction on that, but that's moving forward. The comprehensive plan periodic update, guess what? Check. We just did that too today. Yay. I know there'll be other points of engagement so we can provide feedback to David and have more of a, you know, participation in the process.

But Yeah.

It's nice. There's two things that are already in progress. And then the last one, the equity and historic preservation discussions. I know that previously this had been a line item that said, ongoing, let's bring these topics up in our meetings and fold it in. And from the conversation that this current commission has had, it sounds like more training would be preferred so that we can have informed and educated discussions and kind of have an expert teach us what foundational building blocks we would need to do to

this. Guidance.

So that's another one of our grant required. But, yeah, I it's nice to see the list of things that we're starting up, and Bill's got the startings of a grant list, and we can continue building that up too. So that looks good. Does anyone have any questions about the POG section? Nope.

Mhmm. Looks good.

Okay. And then the last section so this I don't know if you all remember, but in the last time we met, we were discussing changing the name to built environment committee to reflect that survey designation has sort of been scooped up by heritage review. And so I'm wondering if that's a topic that we'd like to discuss today so that we can have it correct on the work plan when we submit it.

Sure. I I like the name, built environment committee. I think it's all encompassing. Okay, Barbie. Anyone anyone on the OWL have any comments on that?

Any objections to it, I should say? No? Well,

I think about when we talked about it before, we talked about how heritage can be something other than the built environment, like intangible heritage. And I think that was where we kind of weren't sure if built environment would sort of be preferential to structures.

I see. We did talk about that, Dirichi.

Wait. I I think to address that concern, the way that things are divided up in these categories, the things in the heritage review committee scope are actually just about tax valuations, new listings for the heritage register, and design guidance. And so the broader topic of heritage, I think, still exists in the other committee work that we do and the full commission work that happens, but it doesn't I mean, I guess, you know, that is a fair point, though, because if there's, like, a a nomination to the heritage register that's not a building Mhmm. With that that

I mean, like like the

business.

The thing to tie the horses up to, It's

in progress. There's work being done on that.

Yeah. That's still built.

That one, could argue, is built environment. Yeah. But, like Yeah. And, like, if we've if we and then we've done this in the past, we honor, like, a historic business or something. It's not necessarily honoring the place of business as much as the entity of the business, for instance. Right?

Or music landmarks.

Or Or

Yeah. There's a lot of topics that could be Yeah.

I think that's that must have

been why we sort of couldn't finalize this now that I'm thinking about it at the retreat. Was that happening with marketing and outreach? Was that where that was gonna be, that sort of thing? The

nontangible? Depends on what the activity is. I mean, if we were actually looking at potentially listing or recognizing something.

Reformizing the business for what they do, rather than the building they live in.

So that would probably be more like the Yeah.

It probably would be. You're right. Right. Here's what it

That's right.

I don't know. The more we're talking about it, I kinda do

think maybe our division scope is okay.

Because you're right. Those sort

of things do fall under

more education marketing and outreach as opposed to looking at what our code says of this committee's responsibilities. I'm coming full circle now. We

could also see how it works for this year too in our December retreat. Make a plan for Yeah.

That's true.

What what change is gonna be.

So yeah. Or are you saying change the name now and see how it goes? Or Yeah. See how it goes and then decide in December to change the name?

Let's go

to the second one. Decide in December.

Love it. Okay. December? Okay.

Let's just see how it goes because we're doing such great work right now too. And when I look at this too, I think we're building some really great systems and processes so that in December, we can start looking at, like, what's the next five years? What's our plan gonna be for that? So maybe we just continue with what we're doing and where we're at, see what works, what doesn't, see what fits, what doesn't, and then address it again in December.

Okay. And who knows? We might come up with something even better, better.

We we might. We might. We have new commissioners coming on too. Maybe they all have a brilliant idea. But I think from where we were a year ago to now too, we've done great work already. We're already checking things off and moving things forward. So I say let's just keep moving forward. Okay.

That's a good suggestion. Yeah.

On the Zoom have any other thoughts? Okay. I think it's a seems like everyone's in agreement. We will discuss this the end of the year.

Okay.

It's cool. An informal deferral. That's kind

of my my thing today too. I'm like, this just needs to be done. Let's move forward. I'm just kinda chopping. I ended up cross things today. So it's my pleasure to give you it. Yeah. I'm

like Nice to do. Yeah. So

I guess I

have to say too that, I told somebody else I was on the heritage commission, and so maybe it could built environment could be helpful because I told them I was on the heritage commission, and they said, oh, it must be so nice working with old people. I thought it was, like, our, like, personal heritage. I was like, well,

we know what heritage means to them. So yes. Yes.

Maybe marketing and outreach for 2026 can have a marketing campaign, the brand, and revamp the

Yeah. Yeah.

What

is that? Is that a cookie?

Oh, it's the bread. I brought bread today. I I told you it would be what I'm eating.

It's toasty, warm, with good butter. I'll stop. Anyways, do we need to make a motion to approve the work plan then? Sorry, Gert.

We do need to make a motion to approve the

work plan.

Before we do, I I know that we talked about the name, but does anyone have any comments about the content

for that We can't skip to the

activities and details?

No. I think you simply captured that. K. Yeah. I I just I just went over my notes from the last meeting. I everything is captured pretty well in in my opinion. So I'm ready for someone to make a motion. Approve as is.

Sonya online wanna make a motion?

Your turn. And

move to approve it as is.

K. And when second?

Mhmm. I second that.

There we go. Thank you, Melissa. Okay. Let's do a roll call. Wow. Let's just do it. I yeah. I think this is The group I. So all in favor, say aye even if you're not.

Aye. Aye.

Any opposed? Okay. Passes unanimous. That was easy. Alright. That's the end of business items. We're on to committee reports. Anyone wanna volunteer to go first? I

can give a pod committee update quickly.

Awesome. Which we pretty much had already. Yeah.

We've covered the bulk of it, but I think we met twice since the last time we had a Heritage Commission meeting. So we had two meetings, which were largely focused on

the bylaw updates. We did also select a chair of the pod committee, which is me as it so happens.

Oh, thank you very

much. But

in addition to that, I think Brittany already mentioned this. We're tracking changes at the city level in terms of city code updates. So once we have a better sense of what is changing in terms of city code, then the pod committee can work with Britney and start to brainstorm, you know, what we may need to do or what we may need to consider. That's about it.

Okay. Fantastic.

And I would like to add a a little sub addendum to the POC topic. With the comprehensive plan update, yes, I'll definitely send out more materials so that folks who want to be more involved can be. But I don't I think this is the time. If there are any ideas and topics that are new or different or not in the plan, this is also that time for you all to be able to suggest those. So if if it's, a topic that you think is related to how the land use chapter should be, but there isn't something to edit to add it in, there's no stopping to just suggesting a new goal or policy.

So I just want you all to think about, like, if there's anything that is important to you, this is the time for that.

That's yeah. That's a good point. And I would encourage all of you, you can, to read through the entire thing. Because I know buried in there I mean, supposedly, there's six dimensions of heritage in there. So buried in there, there's probably some important things that we wanna wanna look at, and I have not had a chance to do that.

I'll get David's permission to see if I can send you all the edits that I've made. Okay. I don't know I don't see why he would be uncomfortable with me sharing mine and not the whole thing, but I think I touch upon a lot of the areas that have history involved or heritage involved in them and wording of it so you can sort of skim through the parts that you have on.

That'd be good. Thank you. Okay. Well, I I can give a report for Heritage Commission. I mean, Heritage Review.

I mean, built environment, whatever we're calling you. Heritage Review Committee. We did meet just this week, actually, And I reviewed a rebuild of a garage that was kinda falling down in a property in the South Capitol neighborhood, and they're rebuilding it very similarly with the addition of, sort of a covered outdoor usable space where they're gonna park a sauna underneath. And we thought it was pretty pretty pretty well done. You know?

It was very sensitive to the original garage, and then the addition, I think, had enough difference to it that, you know, they weren't trying to completely mimic the original architecture with something that was added on. So we also met briefly afterwards and just discussed getting business done because this meeting had originally been set up a couple weeks earlier. We had some snafus on attendance and wasn't able to do it, which is not good because it slows Brittany and the whole process down at the city, but I'll get permits approved. One thing that we discussed is right now, formally, we have four people on our committee, which is an even number rather than that. So that means quorum is is two.

One thing that might be helpful is if it's possible to expand that to five, even if it means bringing if if there's anyone that's interested in joining the committee, I think that would be great. Even if there's anyone interested in joining as sort of an alternate that we could call on a pinch when we need to make sure we have quorum. I just wanna throw that out there if there's any interest.

Quorum is actually three. It's not two. So one person is out. Out. That's the maximum we

can So right now, we have to have two.

Yeah. Because it's a majority. Right. I guess it

has be a majority. It's not

50%. It's a weird just the way the

majority works. So four is a weird number when you need three. Yeah. It makes it even worse.

So another person would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah. Exactly. Double our chances of getting a quote. So give that some thought. I might reach out to some of you.

How much notice do you usually have on the the site visits?

We should be getting at least, like, two weeks. Right?

Oh, okay. Yeah. I could totally be an alternate then. I just I don't keep a car every day, so I just need to know when I need to keep it to drive out.

We might get the notice, and then I guess it let's say let's take a scenario where we would need to call upon you as an alternate. That would probably be what? A week? So

I think in the the way we have been doing it, about two weeks before, I will make sure everyone's free on that day and time. And then a week before the meeting is the formal public notice for it to be posted. So

Which then we can confirm that we can still make it. And if anyone has an issue, then

we can pull the alternative.

Yeah. So So a week of notice.

Yeah. I would love to do some site visits personally.

Okay. Fantastic. Thank you. We need to make a comment.

I I actually think it would be helpful too for the for the marketing and outreach piece too because just because we are doing the the information series, and I will be able to gain more firsthand knowledge and insight by seeing you in action as an architect and looking over properties, and I'll be able to get see more of what you do.

Okay. Great. Yeah.

I will include you, Melissa, on all of the correspondence just so you have an awareness of when a meeting's getting scheduled, but it will not be assumed that you need to attend if you but I guess you'd

be welcome to.

I thought I heard her say she wanted on. Do you want on? Have a call. Alternate?

That's a good question. Do you want do you wanna be alternate on the call, do you wanna be on?

Why don't you

go on?

I vote for alternate because I need her on marketing. So, otherwise, I'll speak

I know. Yeah. There's just some of

us on marketing. There's no rule against what Let

me I know. But still, I don't

know what's going on. Marketing. So I kinda I'm I'm trying to stay focused on that, but I really did wanna be on on the built environment committee in the beginning. I just didn't wanna spread myself too thin, but I do wanna go on some site visits. I think it's important.

Do do you mind maybe do you wanna try it as an alternate for a while and see if I can do That's what I

was getting at. Yes. Alternate.

If if you're there more than you're not, then it probably just means you're on the community.

Yeah. Pretty bad. Yeah. She's just doing a lot of great work on the marketing.

So I know. I don't wanna I don't wanna take anything away from that.

But her bill her some her thing, and then we'd have her. So Yeah.

Okay. Speaking of the marketing and outreach committee update, we have met, when we meet Stacy a couple times since the last meeting, and we worked out some details. Right now, we are scheduled to have three different information sessions, for this calendar year, and the first of which is actually going to correspond with the heritage awards event at the same location, which we are still working on. So that is in May. We have that one pretty well outlined.

And then the next session will be in July. We're gonna do a little summer cyclical maintenance. We're trying to focus on just two primary topics for each session at this point. Let me clarify for May. That first session is going to be a, start at the beginning session where we provide information who are not, currently on the registry of how that procedure happens and basically all the pertinent information and and and specifics about that.

For July, our two focus focus items for this year, I think, are going to be and this is if anybody wants to provide input or suggestions. At this point, we have, windows because I know as a new commissioner, I got a lot of information about windows and why it's so important to preserve them rather than replace. So we're gonna cover windows and, likely paint because I was doing some research, and, the book that I was reading about historic home maintenance said that exterior paint is supposed to be redone every seven years, and that's not even counting in our climate. So it's a pretty important thing. And I think it's something important to address in the summertime because if you look around any of these neighborhoods, everybody's painting or having their house painted in the summer because it's not raining like crazy, it's and good to get it taken care of.

So it'll be good to have information on that. And then the the third one for this year will be in October. That one's tentative at this point, but it's gonna be a fall maintenance focus. And I have written in all caps gutters. We need to know more information about them, how often they should be cleaned for our particular climate and, and foliage coverage.

And another big big item I had on the one that I thought would be good is moss, how it can deteriorate materials, even concrete, and why it's important to remove it. And I need to investigate, more eco friendly ways to remove it besides the bleach and TSP concoction that's likely not very good for much of anything. I also have on here a bonus session that we we may try to work in, and it is specific just to special tax valuation, because I was gonna try to add add that into the first one to begin at the beginning or start at the beginning. But I feel like it it deserves its own own session, which could could actually be right after that first session in May too. So that's what that is.

And then as far as the arts walk in April, we do have a, a pretty cool little activity planned. There will be a sample of that activity at your next meeting, your next heritage commission meeting next month. It's basically just we're gonna make a little village, out of paper lunch sacks. So we'll have supplies like, construction paper cut out likely in, like, window shapes and just different things that can easily be glued on with the irregular glue stick. No no hot glue.

Nothing scary. Less cutting. And and then we'll display them like a small village. What else, Stacy? What did I forget?

Cute. I like that. People can decorate their own little houses and villages.

They're gonna

make a little Is that gonna happen at the table?

Yep. At ArtsWalk. Cool. Yeah. I think that's it. I think in March, we'll have some more information about ArtsWalk and for people to sign up for shifts per se to man that table for us over two days. We have the time, so we'll go over that more next month at our next meeting. So, yeah, Melissa's done a lot of great work outlining different all the workshops and has great ideas too, and ArtsWalk is gonna be a lot of fun. So I'm excited to be out there.

There will be, our next meeting, there will be some items that maybe, I could use some input from the rest of you, see if you have any ideas, especially, like, the the title of that first session. Like, begin at the beginning start at the beginning. I don't know. You guys think about it. Maybe you'll come up with something brilliant.

Yeah. We we were thinking of titling, and then then we thought it might be fun for everybody to help us with that. The danger of moss or moss killer something. You know? We We have some fun and get people interested in this. Yeah. I think also, Melissa, we had talked about potentially this year too with the dates of the workshops, maybe doing different dates and times. So, like, the May 1 is on a Thursday in the evening, and the summer one's on a Saturday morning and to see which ones produce the most input in attendance. So we're looking at kinda moving the dates around. Nothing too solid for this year, but kinda playing with that a little bit so we can continue to grow that for future years. Okay.

Hey. You're gonna start looking for guest speakers? And

That's that's all on the plan that we have. Like, someone else has created a great Word doc with lots of places for for to add to and stuff too. So we're continuing to grow that, and we'll potentially once we have all the comments, I'll probably maybe share it with all of you too for feedback. So Awesome. Yeah.

Melissa, did you want to report out for arts and heritage week also to or do you wanna save that for next month, or do you wanna do it right now? I've got the PowerPoint slides pulled up.

Oh, the, the America two fifty. Is that what it is?

Is that

what it's called? Sorry. Yeah. You can you can share your slides. I I've never shared anything on my computer. I don't wanna be like that guy on that commercial that shows my magic pictures. Magic cards, I should have said. Okay. So this can everybody see that?

Yeah. Oh, it's oh, there it is.

Okay. So this is a special, a presentation that we went to. Britney, if you'll help me out with the name of the agency because I'm not super great with names.

The Washington State Historical Society, w h s w s h s.

That sounds great.

W. Yeah. Museum.

The museum.

Yeah. What

this is we can we can go ahead and move to the next slide. Is they are gathering up these different artifacts, and they're they're trying to get all of the different cultural organizations and museums and and any sort of heritage society to provide five different artifacts that fit into if we go to the next slide, there's three different themes that they're working on. There's the we, the people theme, and you can read through some of these questions and see kinda what they're what they're thinking that would be defined as. I'll give you a second for that. It's basically, you know, what is what does it mean to be an American, like, an artifact that defines that for Washingtonians or American citizens.

Okay. And then the next slide is okay. I keep happening. Power of place. And the third category is oh, I don't know where I went.

Okay. Well, is there one more slide past this one? I can't remember.

Yeah.

Do you wanna go to the next one after this?

Yes.

So we when when I listened to the presentation, I thought to myself, okay. So first of all, this this is not until the deadline for this isn't until next July, not this coming up July, but the next July. And, if you go to the next slide, it gives an outline of the process. Like I I pulled from

the other slides to condense it. But Yeah.

But this this goes through the the how to become a partner, you know, the collaboration and picking the items, and then you submit a digital photo and description of the item and why sort of what theme it it correlates to. So they're just they're collecting all of these artifacts to celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of America. The Bigelow House is in fact participating. They are a partner. So we were curious if we need to if it what all of you thought, we would like your input, whether you think this is something that we should should, approach separately as a separate entry, or do you think it would be nice to collaborate with the Bigelow House Museum and see what they're putting in?

If I can jump in for a quick second. Please. The the the presentation was geared towards museums. And although

we

are not a museum, Melissa had a good question, and they didn't say no. Could a building be something that we submit as an artifact to represent history of some sort. The goal would be really the way that they described it was we don't want you to have a new project. We want you to be able to put our program branding on something you're already doing so we can elevate it and just say, hey. Check out this cool thing even though it's already part of your museum, and it would just draw attention to it from a different lens.

Okay. So either it sounds like Melissa was asking if we want to be a partner and see if we can submit our own and have our own public process or if we would wanna partner with the Bigelow House Museum or at least offer to. We haven't approached them yet. But to help showcase their things and when they do their public process, maybe we would be providing support so that they can get shared out properly or not participate at all. This is optional. This is up to everyone's interest, I guess. Do y'all want to do it?

I'll throw in too that this was part of the arts and heritage week in February, and both Brittany and

I attended at least one meeting together. At the At

the arts and heritage. Yeah. So this was part of the arts and heritage week.

Melissa had went to the panel, and then we were at the legislative meet. Yeah. With parsley. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Just I guess I'm not knowing a lot about the two fifty year project. I mean, like, what's the emphasis on I mean, there's, you know, obviously, a million different historic things you could think about and look at. But, I mean, is there are they trying to focus on anything specific to the 250

They do have a wonderful website up and running too. We've lots of information on it too, so maybe the commission can review it, and we can talk about it more as we go along too because that's something we could add to the work plan or definitely add to the work plan for next year as well too.

I will put some materials in the follow-up email to you all. So there'll be Olympia Music History Project and then American two fifty. I think their goal is to try to get each different community's version of what they think encapsulates their idea of what it means to be an American because that looks different for everyone from different groups, different museums, different, like, communities. Okay.

That makes sense.

And then they're gonna have a big catalog of everyone's idea of what it means. And I I did ask the kind of spicy question. I was like, so are you gonna say no to anything, or, like, does anything

Yeah. That's what I was gonna

Who's who's curating this thing?

Exactly. And so I think they the the answer was not explicit. So I won't speak for anyone, but it seemed like as long as it's not incredibly inappropriate, they're not gonna filter they're not gonna, like, precurate these things. They're gonna actually let people submit what they want to unless for some reason it's, like, not okay for the public. I don't know about them. But, yeah, it seems like it'll be interesting discussion when the pieces get chosen and when the engagement happens.

I I think that it also corresponds to they have some big huge celebration events in that July. And so it kind of is a collaboration with that. Like, the items can be displayed, and maybe some of the museums have free entrance that weekend to get people to go in and see the display of the actual items. Is that right, Britney? I think that's right.

Yeah. There there was some programming that they were basically providing infrastructure for people to go see things and experience things and showcasing museums' works. So it sounds like everyone is interested to learn a little more, and I will provide information so that the group can decide if this is something that everyone wants to participate in and support and, you know, I guess, either try to see if we can be a partner or if we would be a partner to a partner because it would also be good to build the relationship with Big Blue House Museum of Columbia Historical Society. I know that

It would be an opportunity.

Yeah. There's a lot of things that both groups this group and that group do that happen at the same time, the same direction, but could, you know, intermingle or horn cross pollinate. I used that word twice today, but, you know, there's Good day for those. Collaboration. Yeah. Apparently, and

I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right, but it's the semi quincentennial. So the US Semi Quincentennial Commission has made the states. I know. I'm like, it's a very long word. So they're working with partners across all 50 states to provide programming and planning for their quincentennial. Do it. But, yeah, it's Well, I have a I have

a couple of comments. First of all, I think from the chatter I've seen on different websites and stuff about this being a former state historical society director and involved with other statewide organizations. This is a tough one because it's a weird you can't pronounce it. And who knows under the the the current national administration just where this is gonna end up. Okay.

Sound this sounds to me, having this is the first I've heard of this for Washington. What they're doing is this 250 things. This looks to me like the state historical society trying to do something for the local museums to help them with their marketing, to help get their word out. And it may on the front of it seem like, oh, we're gonna find important things. But I think the motivation is to drive attendance into, local organizations, local historical society. So Is that about the old people? Yes.

Oh, yes.

Yeah. Where the old people are. Okay. Exactly where the old people are.

I just I thought it could be interesting if it could be built structure or even the horse tie up down the street. Like, it could be interesting to develop sort of a case study system for those items, and then maybe that's something we carry forward without their their structure. Maybe it's something that kind of gets us rogue

and do our own thing. I'm just celebrating.

It gets us into thinking about our built environment or our heritage properties in a different way.

I guess I'm having a hard time envisioning and maybe every so envisioning, okay, we get to 07/04/2026. What does this, like, look like? You know? I mean, what

I

What's what's the what's the product? For what? You know?

One of the things that they had, as an example, was a diary of somebody that was from eighteen ninety something. And I read a little bit of it, and somebody was working in a mine, and somebody died. And so I don't know. But do you have a better example, Britney? Do you remember any of the they didn't really have

a ton of examples. Objects? No. I I

But even if you had objects, okay, so then what? Like, how are they displayed? How are they getting out in the public? How is it all part of the celebrate?

If it's digital, it's just Well, this is the website.

I think that's why it's it makes sense for it to be a museum that hosts it because then the museum already has their glass display, and they would just have the sign around there The idea. Glass display that says, this is our America Two Fifty item. Yeah. And so it's a little weird for us not having that, but, a walking tour with Yeah. Raven

and Yeah.

Even a historic site. Like Yeah. Like

We could just use the the America two fifty branding on one of our existing walking tour brochures and be like, these are our five items.

Maybe it's one. I mean, I I don't know. Like, years ago, we did a it was a joint thing, but we did a walking tour, and we had this, like you've probably seen them in other cities where you put the big sticker on the sidewalk that explains it. It's that and they literally lasted about two months, and then you couldn't read them anymore. But something like that that's specific to the two fifty celebration or something, could see out of it. But I'm thinking product. I'm not thinking, like, process. But

I I also I think, something to think about as everyone is deciding how to feel about what they want to answer with. Mhmm. If we partner with the Big Old House Museum that looks like us supporting and collaborating and providing assistance. If we are proposing to do this on our own, we are a an offshoot of city council, and so it would need to be something that gets formally ok'd as a like, whatever it is that we're proposing, the city would need to be okay with us saying the city's opinion. So there's probably more process in that, but it's not to not do it.

But just so you Yeah. We we're we're an offshoot of city council. We're a council advisory committee. I know

that doesn't come up when we do heritage month stuff

in this kind of stuff.

Heritage gets reviewed by city council. Mhmm. I think it city council proclaims it to be heritage month, and I don't know about heritage awards. But We've

done activities and stuff. Maybe they got a group then.

I mean, maybe City Council show up sometimes.

But

I I think I'm just thinking of it on a list. We would be the city of Olympia.

Yeah.

That's what I like, maybe these weren't preapproved for other types of events that like, the workshop series, that's not gonna get approved. But if we

Yeah. For example.

Holding the title of we are city of Olympia's opinion. Yeah. Yeah.

No. It's it's really good.

I just looked at their website, and Thurston County has four organizations that have already signed on. Oh, cool. Olympia Arts and Heritage Alliance, the Historical Society Bigelow House, Governor's Mansion Foundation, and the Women's Club. Okay. Cool. So think this town's already kinda covered.

I think

we need to get involved. But we have time. Let's see where else it goes.

We can follow back up next month because this is not something that needs to happen super quickly. Right. Thank you for your share of the marketing and average committee and all the other credit reports. It's so exciting to see all the stuff that you're all doing. Like, it's moving forward. Work. Yeah.

It is.

Good work, guys, the last couple months. So we're only two months into a year. So

K.

Feels good. Absolutely.

Okay. Any any other topics for the good or the order? Last minute announcement, someone thought? Alright. Thanks, everyone. Good to see you all online and here, and let's adjourn at 07:01.

Alright.

Thank you all.

Bye, y'all.

See you.

Nice to see you.

Our next meeting would be the

March 26. March 6.

Exact same dates in March as February. So same dates in Here you can.