Judiciary & Legislation Committee - Regular Meeting

I'm Alderman Joe Casta Zamarepa, chairperson of the committee, and I'm joined in the following order to my left by Alderman Peter Bergelis as well as Alderman Brower. We are expecting Vice Chair Pratt to log on virtually today and also Alderman Jackson should be joining us soon. We're also joined by Yadira Melendez, staff assistant. Good morning. Good morning.

Miss Fabiola Lopez, our license in license division assistant manager, attorney Travis Gresham from the office of the city attorney, Sergeants Velasquez, and Cornejo from Milwaukee Police Department. Morning. Good morning. The only item on the agenda is file number two five two two three four motion relating to the recommendations of the licenses committee relating to licenses. The first application at 9AM are a few class D operators license renewal applications beginning with Sierra Jarrett. Class D operators license renewal application. Is Sierra Jarrett present? All right. Is this the first time non appearance?

Second.

Move to move to now.

Alright. Alderman Peter Bergelis moves for denial. Any objection? Hearing none so ordered. Sierra can reapply, correct?

Correct.

Licenses division, thank you for that. We'll move on to our next 9AM agenda item. Christopher Deshawn McBeath, Class D opera I'm sorry, Class D Operator's License Renewal Application. Is Christopher Deshawn McBeath present? All right. License division, is this the first time nonappearance?

Yes, it's the first.

Right. Move to hold.

Alderman Peter Bergalis moves to hold this item to the call of the chair. And hearing no objection so ordered, we'll move on to our next 9AM agenda item, Joseph A. Ziegler, class D operator's license renewal application. Is Joseph A. Ziegler present?

Yeah, I'm here.

Alright. Good morning.

Good morning.

Mr. Ziegler, you'll raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Yeah. Don't know how turn the camera on

this right now.

I had it on earlier.

No. It's on. Your camera's on. It's there.

I don't see you, though. Okay.

Alright. Cool.

Alright. Yeah.

Okay. Sergeant Velasquez and Oh, yes. Can everybody raise

the hand that needs to get sworn in?

Do you solely affirm on the defense and penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony you're about to give, is it true, whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Yes. Yes. Thank you.

Thank you, everyone. Alright. Mister Ziegler, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied? Yeah. Thank you. Yes. Alright. And if you'll state your name and address for the record?

Joseph Ziegler, 12515 West Forest Drive, New Berlin, Wisconsin Wisconsin 5533151.

Okay. Thank you. Is there a police report, sergeant?

Yes. The applicant has a following past due of fines and own in Milwaukee Municipal Court as of today. Building code violations, $290.

Alright. Mister Ziegler, would you like to speak to the police report?

No. I I have everything's paid for now,

and I sent a copy of the receipt via email over to the license division.

Okay. Thank you.

And it's got a general email that was on the It's the bank. It was the first page of the letter that was sent to me. At the bottom, it was just the general license division one. But it was sent there with a paper receipt on it with my name and then the bartender license number.

Good. I'm glad you did that. License division, can you confirm?

I'll check with the

office. Okay.

Alright, miss Lopez will check with the office to ensure that we receive that. Further further questions on the police report from committee members? Alright. Well, with that, we can entertain a motion.

I'm sure I'll move approval. And if for whatever reason that wasn't taken care of, we can adjust it on the agenda, the special agenda prior to council.

Very good.

So we can follow-up with that later to confirm. We'll trust but verify.

Very good. Thank you, Alderman Bergalis. Alderman Bergalis has moved approval and of course, we'll adjust the matter if there for some reason we don't get confirmation that we received the copy of his payment. Any discussion or questions on the motion? Alright. Any objection? Hearing no objection so ordered. Alright. Congratulations. Good luck to you mister Ziegler.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Thank you. Alright. We'll move on now to our 09:05AM agenda items. Beginning with Shannon Carlson, Class D, operator's license application. Good morning. Good morning. Yes, please have a seat. And we want a good morning. Alderman Jackson is here as well. Thank you, Alderman Jackson. Alright. Miss Carlson, will you raise your right hand and we'll get

you sworn in? Thank you so much for all the defense and penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony we're to give is the truth, whole truth, and the film of the truth? I do. Thank you.

Thank you. Alright. Miss Carlson, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied? Yes. I am. Thank you. And will you state your name and address for the record?

Yes. My name first name is Shannon Carlson, c a r l s o n. My address is 1517 Manitoba Avenue, South Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53172. Thank you.

Alright. Sergeants, is there a police report?

Yes. On 12/03/2019, the applicant was arrested for OWI third. On 02/03/2025, she was convicted and her driver's license was revoked for life. On 12/2321, the applicant was arrested for OWI fourth. On 05/1724, she was convicted and her driver's license was revoked for thirty six months plus two hundred and forty days.

Okay. Alright. Would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes. I did jot down some notes and wrote you a letter. Today is it's very difficult having to admit to my past. So first and foremost, thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak with you today. I understand the seriousness of my record and the OWI convictions.

I take full responsibility for my poor choices that I made. It took some time in my life to realize that I did have an alcohol addiction. Since then, I have sought treatment. I have been in treatment since 2023. I continue with treatment on a weekly basis, doing both group and individual therapy, and I wouldn't go without it.

Sometimes I feel like everybody deserves a little therapy. Finding employment has been trying and difficult with my background. I did go an interview at Delaware North, which operates the Milwaukee Services Group at the stadium. I applied for a very entry level position, met with the supervisor, and we clicked. They offered me a supervisor position that is better pay, hours, and meets up with my experience in life.

So in order to do that, they do require that all management staff hold a bartender's license. Although you're not directly serving alcohol you are overseeing it. I am on probation. I did speak to and receive permission from my probation officer to even apply for the license attached to my application. There is a letter from her stating that I am in compliance.

It also attests to my random drug tests. On that you will also see a letter from my counselor stating and verifying my treatment dates. And then again my service a certificate. So I I'm I'm ashamed of my past. What I'm doing differently this time is I had to get to the bottom, the root of my issue, and I've done that.

So I am I understand it's a public safety issue, but I guarantee you I will never operate a motor vehicle again in my life, and I will never ever take a drop of alcohol in my life I know that I can't drink. So I'm hoping that with your permission. I could accept this position. All my training is completed I'm just waiting for the license and that's what it's based on.

Thank you very much for your remarks. Are there any questions from committee members at this time?

Madam chair.

On the police report, Alderman Bergelis?

Listen, I've I've worked at the stadium to help a church group work for Delaware North. I'm very familiar with how alcohol is regulated and it's very well, you think Brewers fans have a whole lot of fun, then they do.

They

do. But alcohol is very well controlled and regulated. I appreciate your candor and your honesty. It takes a lot of courage to sit up here at the table and share some really personal things with the committee. Have no objections on this license.

Oh, thank you.

So I'll move approval.

Very good. Alderman Peter Bergelis moves approval. Any discussion on that motion? Any objection? Hearing none so ordered. Good luck

to you.

Thank you. I appreciate you. Thank you.

And I promise you, I'll make you proud.

I have no doubt. Alright, we will move on now to our next nine zero five am agenda item. Connie M Peterson, Class D Operator's License Good Thank you for your patience. I know you're said you had to head to work as soon as you're done here. It's okay. If you'll raise your right hand, miss Peterson, we'll get

you sworn in. Do you solemnly affirm on the defense of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, whole truth, and a film of the truth?

Yes. Thank you. Alright. And are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied? Yes.

And my other question on that would be am I able to get my money back?

Could you speak a little bit louder I'm not sure what you're asking for.

If it is denied am I able to get my 85 Yeah,

you would be able to get a partial refund.

Okay. Alright. And can you pull the microphone close too so that we can make sure everybody can hear you? Okay. If you'll state your name and address for the record.

Sorry. Connie M Peterson 5998 South Phillips.

Okay. Did we get a sworn?

Yes.

That's Yes.

Okay. Yes. Mhmm.

Alright. Sergeant Courtney Ho, is there a police report?

At nine 06:25, the applicant was arrested for OWI third with the jury trial scheduled 05/18/2026.

Okay. Alright, would you like to speak to the police report, miss Peterson?

Yes. I I don't know how to say this. I was not prepared. I I've been very busy with my mom and work and everything. Okay. One, I'm not a drinker. I just happened to drink that day and it's what happened. The microphone closer to you. I feel like it's in my face already.

You can move it.

You can bend it towards you.

Whatever's going I

just wanna hear you well. There you

go.

My my first and second were lots of years ago. I was my profession, I've been a bartender over thirty years. I kind of stopped bartending like before twenty eighteen, became a driver, and I was I had five driving positions, you know, DoorDash, Grubhub, Spark, Instacart, all of that before COVID. And then I was not going to renew my license this year. After all the years of renewing my license and then not finding a decent place to work or making good money or whatever.

And then because of what had happened, I was like, okay, I have no other choice. So I did find a position which is right here, real chill real chilly. And we do serve cans of beer. And the thing with the license is that because it's limited hours, it's only two people working, like, in the morning and then there's like a mid shift from three to nine which you have to be by yourself and the times that I did work by myself, I really thought I would, I applied for this in February. So, I've been back and forth wondering what's going on.

So

me being by myself if I have to be there, I have to have a license because we do serve cans of beer. It's not a bar. It's a restaurant. So they might, the times that I worked, it maybe one or two cans of beer. And I need work and this is messing with my work if I can't get the hours.

And since then she told me I can only have one day a week working with someone from like nine to three in the morning. Like today, I work ten to three and then go to the other one which does not serve alcohol to try to make up for the hours that I missed. Now as far as, yes, I have a court date coming up, but I need to work. I need to make money in the meantime. I don't know what else to say.

That's good. No, that's good, Ms. Peterson.

I've been under a lot with my mom because I have my mom has stage three and four breast cancer. She's like has dementia and then she has like bipolar just behavior issues and I've been dealing a lot with that because I'm her only daughter and I take care of her and give her her pills every day, twice a day, three times. Going back and forth between my house, her housework, my aunts, it just

This is good. No, thank you for sharing all of this. Happy to hear that you work at Real Chili. I'm a big fan of your product there and yes, I'm familiar that you guys sell cans of beer and yeah and so, you're needing this license so that you can continue to work there and hopefully pick up more hours. Any questions from committee members for miss Peterson? Alright. Is there a motion somebody would like to approve? Alderman Alex Brouwer moves to approve this this license. Any further discussion, any objection? Hearing none, so ordered. Alright. Very good. Congratulations.

I appreciate this. At least for the meantime until May because I don't know what's going to happen. So.

Very good. Luck to you. Maybe I'll see you over there. Yes. Well,

I'll be there till 02:00 today and

then I gotta go to the 1 West. Okay.

We'll be here.

We'll be here. Well, long long after this.

Next time. Next time. Great. Thank you. Good luck. Have a

good day.

Thank you. You too.

Alright. We will move on now to our 09:10AM agenda item. Carly Barent, Class C Operator's License Application. Is Carly Barent present? Alright, Carly Behrendt. Is this the first time non appearance? Yes. Alright, Alderman Jackson moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered. We'll move on to our 09:10AM agenda item. Is it DeAngelo Montreal Edwards, Class Operator's License Application? D'Angelo Montreal Edwards. All right. Is this the first time on appearance? Yes. Okay.

Alderman Jackson moves to hold item to the call of the chair and hearing no objection so ordered. We'll move on now to our next 09:10. 09:10AM agenda item. Gerald B Adams. Class B manager's license application.

Okay. I'm here.

Alright. Good morning.

Good morning.

Alright. If you'll raise your right hand, mister Adams, we'll get

you sworn in. Do you solemnly affirm on the events and penalties of perjury at the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is a true, the whole truth, and a film of the truth?

Yes.

Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Mister Adams, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Thank you. And then will you please state your name and address for the record?

Gerald Adams. 2368 North 2nd. Thank

you. Alright. Sergeant Gonejo, is there a police report?

Yes. On 03/1824, the applicant was charged in Waukesha County with two counts of possession of amphetamine, misdemeanors, and possession of marijuana. He's found guilty. The charges were dismissed but read in. Found guilty on a possession of marijuana and paid a fine. Madam chair. Thank you.

Yes, attorney Gresham.

Can I get clarity as

far as which one was a misdemeanor or were they all read in as misdemeanors and then?

So

charge one was possession of amphetamine.

Those were

were the writing charges. And then possession of marijuana was a was a was a fine.

Okay. And is it I see it's listed as amphetamine LSD and psilocybin. Is that just a standard catch all effectively? Okay. Yes. Alright. Thank you.

Okay. Thank you. Mister Adams, would you like to speak to the police report?

Yes. You know, at the time, I was taking mushrooms and smoking weed. I got pulled over at Waukesha leaving work in Brookfield. It was a bogus police stop, but I went on and went through the process. I went on and took some AODA assessment just to kinda see where I was at as to why I was using a substance and things of that nature. Went through the assessment, went through some treatment, and, paid my fines.

Okay. The fines are all are paid in full?

Yes, ma'am. Okay.

I I also emailed the a copy case on the to the licensing.gov. But, I mean, it's it's in Wisconsin court access

Okay.

Right from Milwaukee. I can provide you guys the case number if you guys wanna look at that.

Okay. So you emailed us proof of payment of the fines?

Yes, ma'am.

Thank you. License division, can you confirm that?

I don't have access to

a license email right now, but there's nothing on record.

Okay. Alright.

I can share my screen from the court case. Are you guys able to see my screen?

No. No. We're There's nothing on

the police report stating outstanding fines.

So Oh, he indicated that he that it says that there's a fine. He said he paid it in full. I just asked if he paid it in full and he's indicated he sent license division proof of payment. Alright. I'm sure. Yes, Alderman Bergales.

So, the so we have a couple charges but the only guilty charge is marijuana. Okay. Move approval.

Alderman Peter Bergales moves approval. Any discussion on that motion? Any objection? Hearing none so ordered. Good luck to you, mister Adams.

Appreciate you guys. Thank you. See you soon, mister Jackson.

Alright. We will move on to our 09:15AM agenda item. Oddly k Jab Agent for, Smoker Zone LLC, Food Dealer License Renewal Application for Friendly Market at 2778 North 59th Street. Alright. Good morning.

Good morning.

If the two of you will raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

The assembly of from an independent of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is the truth, whole truth, and a film of the truth?

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. Sir, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied? Yes. Thank you. And can you please you have to speak

in Yes. The

Good. Thank you. And will you please state your name and address for the record?

My name is Adley Jabber. My address 2778 North 59 Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53210.

Thank you.

You're

welcome. Alright. And then would you like to introduce yourself? Hi.

I'm Amanda Grise. I work for Aldo women's Charlotte Moore.

Wonderful. Thank you, Amanda. Alright. Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay. Sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

The following item is pertaining to licensee and business located at 2778 North 59th Street, 42425 at 07:45PM. Officers were dispatched to a theft complaint. The agent reported three juveniles who continue to steal merchandise from the business. Security camera footage was available for review on 06/2125 at 09:44AM. Also conducted tobacco compliance check. A participant under the legal age to possess a tobacco product was sold a cigar product by the listed agent without checking to an ID to verify their age. The agent was advised of the sale and cited for sale of cigarettes to a minor. Okay. It was in one status. However, it was paid on 04/21.

Thank you. Would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

I can speak. Can my son transfer for me?

Of course. Where is he?

In the

We need to get him We need to get him sworn in. Is it Omar? Yes. Omar is Alright. Good morning. If if you raise your right hand, Omar, we'd like to get you sworn in before we let you and then you can interpret. Do you solely affirm on

the defensive penalties of perjury of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Thank you.

Alright. And if you'll state your name and address for the record, Omar?

Omar Jabber. 6213 South 13th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53221. Thank

you. And you were going to help interpret for your dad today.

Yes? Correct. Yes. I'm in I'm my father's son, Adley, is my father, and I am his son, Omar.

Okay. And we just went through the police report, so wanted to give him a chance to to speak to the police report and if you could then interpret whatever whatever he says.

Yes. Absolutely.

So you Go ahead, sir. Do you wanna speak in your language and then your Yeah. Your son will

join in. Yeah.

So he does admit that he is at fault for selling to a minor. He usually does check for IDs. However, that day he was not feeling too well and completely just forgot to follow the protocol and process in place that he has set for his business.

Okay. Alright. Thank you.

Thank you.

Hold on. Questions on the police report from committee members? I'm sure. Alderman Bergalis?

What is your process and protocol to check for ID?

So the process and protocol, we implemented a new system into the business.

If gonna translate, then you have to translate for your father and then translate back.

Oh. Yeah. Let's let your dad respond and then you

So what is your so what is your process and protocol for your for checking IDs?

To me the particular ID.

Okay. The process that's implemented in place is that any tobacco sale or nicotine sale that occurs in the business, an ID is required to be scanned. If the customer does not have an ID, the sale is denied. No matter if an ID is needed to be able to be scanned into the system.

So the scan is the scanning system new or was it just not followed that day?

No. It's a new process that they implemented, a new system.

After the ticket? Yes.

Correct.

Okay. That gives me some encouragement. Thank you, madam chair.

Thank you. And then I'm sorry if I missed this because in the police report it says the citation for selling tobacco to a minor is in warrant status?

That's resolved.

Okay. That's been resolved?

It's been paid as

of '21. 04/21.

Okay. So the citation for selling tobacco to a minor was paid. Very good. Further questions from committee members on the police report? Alright. Questions from Elder Woman Moore's office on the report?

No questions.

Okay. Are there any neighbors present that wanted to testify to this item today?

No, madam chair.

Alright. Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify. We are in the 10th Aldermanic District. Amanda from Alderman Moore's office.

Alderman Moore did go visit this business and is in full support of renewing the business license.

Very

good. Thank you. With that, we'll head into committee. Does the committee have a motion? Alderman Brower.

Move to approve.

Alderman Alderman Alex Bauer moves to approve.

Madam chair.

I'm sorry. Can you guys let me finish the motion and then we can take it to questions. Alderman Alex Bauer has moved for approval. I'm hearing some discussion. Alderman Jackson.

I'll let move approval with the warning letter.

On the motion.

We already have a motion on the table. Are you asking for I'm not sure. Not sure. Heard a motion.

Madam Chair.

Yes, Alderman By

I'll amend my motion to be approval with a warning letter.

Alderman Alex Bauer is revising his motion. He's moving for approval with a warning letter. Alright and with that.

A motion.

Alderman Bergelis has some discussion.

Thank you, madam chair. MPD has taken a conscious effort in the last nine months or so to ensure that rest year. Going And And be to

And

licensing reports. I am encouraged that this operator took the proactive step before committee to change their policies to tighten up their policies and make sure that every single purchase has an ID scan in their point of sale system. So I would to be consistent with our discipline in previous licensing meetings, I think it's wholly appropriate for renewal with warning letter for this first time offense, especially given that the applicant has taken a proactive measure to protect children in their neighborhood. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Alderman Bergalis. I do want to note Vice Chair Pratt is here with us virtually. Good morning to elder woman Pratt. With that we do have a motion on the table. The motion is approval with a warning letter. Any further discussion? Any objection? Hearing none so ordered. Good luck to you mister Jabbar. Thank you.

Thank you.

Alright. Yes. Thank you, Omar. We will move on to our 09:20AM agenda item. Robert Montemayor, agent for Monta Enterprises LLC Class A Malt and Class A Liquor and Food Dealer Licenses renewal application for Monterrey Market at 3014 South 13th Street. Alright. Good morning. Good morning.

Good to see you.

Good to see you as well.

And I see elder elder woman Dimitrevich is also with us virtually this morning. If the two of you would raise your right hand, we'll get

you sworn in. Do you solemnly from an independent of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony you're about to give is a true, the whole truth, and a film of the truth?

Yes.

Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah. He's not Mitrivich.

And alderwoman Mitrevich, you're muted.

Yes. I swear. Yes.

Okay. Very good. Thank you. Alright. Mister Montemayor, are you on receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes. I am.

Thank you. And if you'll state your name and address for the record.

Robert Montemayor, 5770 Stephanie Way, Caledonia, Wisconsin 53108.

Thank you. Alright. Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

Hold on. Okay.

No. No hold.

Alright. And sergeant Cornejo, is there a police report?

92525 at 10:13AM. Milwaukee police were dispatched to trouble the subject. The business call regarding a panhandler in front of the business. The subject left upon officer's request. 92825, once police conducted an alcohol compliance checks at approximately 12:16PM, a police say not a legal age to purchase alcohol, enter the business, and purchased an alcoholic beverage from the cashier who did check ID. The agent was cited for sale of alcohol to run their age and paid paid a fine after pleading guilty.

Thank you. Would you like to speak to the police report?

Absolutely. I mean, again, these are my my it's my grocery store and again, I take full responsibility for my staff and everybody that's that's part of that organization. But again, was it was an unfortunate situation. It's more of a language barrier. We did have a young lady that came in and they did and we do have those mechanisms in place to scan and she did scan but a little confused. I think it was in the rush of the moment but her supervisor actually nodded and said yes she is not of age and and the

hospital hospital officer police

officer was was was like, you're you're coming back with money or you're coming back with alcohol. And She came back in and she actually picked it up and left again. But subsequently, the cashier was fired just because that is just unacceptable for me. My supervisor for the location did get written up for that as well. There is no I just don't bend on that just due to the fact because we do have a I look at it as it's an alcohol or it's a license for to sell alcohol, but it's also a privilege where you're just like you just can't accept that and that's unacceptable for me.

So again, we went through the process, retrained all of our staff at all of our locations to say this is what is not acceptable just because she had it in her hand and because of the language barrier because she did not speak English and my cashier. But again, I am a representation of Monterey Market.

Thank you. Alright. Further questions on the police report from committee members? Alright. Questions from elder woman Dimitriovich on the police report.

Nothing on the police report.

All right. Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify to this item today. Okay let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify. We are in the 14th District. Alderman Dimitriovich.

Good morning madam chairman and committee members. I had a very lengthy discussion with mister Montemayor and we discussed incident, how it happened, the protocols that are in place. I did express my major disappointment. It is very unlike his record of over sixteen years being a great provider provider of grocery in our community. We talk about how you know there must be a system in place to make sure it doesn't happen again. With that I let him know that I would be asking the committee to place a warning letter on file. Madam chair.

Alright. Thank you very much. Alderwoman. With that, we'll head into committee. Does the committee have a motion?

Madam chair.

Alderman Alex Brower.

Move to approve of the warning letter.

Alderman Alex Brower moves for approval with a warning letter. Any discussion on that motion? Any objection? Hearing none so ordered. Thank you, mister Montemayo. Good luck to you.

Thank you so much. Thank you. Alright.

We will move on to our 09:25AM agenda item. Kawar A Kalik, agent for KNA LLC filling station, food dealer, and whites weights and measures licenses renewal application for Petromart at 702 West Oklahoma Avenue. Alright. Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning. Would you like to introduce yourself, counsel?

Sure. Attorney Mike Mazelman on behalf of mister Kalik.

Thank you. Alright. And then are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

We are.

Very good. And then mister Kalik, will you please state your name and address for the record?

Yes. Kavar.

Oh, I'm sorry. Can you raise your right hand so we can get you sworn in?

The is only a criminal and defensive penalties of burgeoning of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony we're about to give is the truth, whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. And then now will you state your name and address for the record?

Yep. Kovar, a colleague. 7611 Parkview Road, Greendale, Wisconsin 53129.

Thank you. Alright. Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

No holds.

Okay. Sergeant Sconejo, is there a police report?

On 04/1825 at 12:10AM, Milwaukee Police were dispatched to battery. The caller stated that they got into a verbal argument with the cashier and began to throw items across the aisles. The cashier the subject began to argue and throw items. The officer noted broken glass and bags of chips open and spilled across the floor. Further observation revealed the bag containing a green plant like substance behind the counter and a scale. The business did not have ways and and measures or extended hours license and should not have been open. At 08:22 twenty five at 10:10PM, Milwaukee Police conducted a license premise check. No violations were observed. On 09/01/2025 at 12:07AM, Milwaukee Police were dispatched to a weapon complaints. The business regarding a group of subjects in the parking lot, one of which they believed had a gun.

The subjects the subjects were no longer on scene. However, this was a a common occurrence with subjects loitering stating they are friends with the overnight clerk. On 11/1125 at 10:14PM, Milwaukee police were dispatched to robbery. The caller say that they were attacked by four subjects, suspects. Keys were taken and their vehicle was stolen. The officers attempted to view video surveillance. However, they were told the employees were unable to access it. Follow-up was conducted on several days until finally on 11/1625. An officer was able to view footage which did capture part of the incident. The inability to view video surveillance hindered the officer's investigation.

On 11/1625 at 01:08AM, Milwaukee Police conducted license premise check. The business does not have a valid extended hours permit and were open for business. The agent was advised of the violation and agreed to close the business. The agent was advised that future violations could result in citations. On 01/2926 at 01:52AM, Milwaukee Police conducted a license service check regarding the extended hours license.

The officer found the business to be open and requested to see the license. However, the employee stated it was not at the business but had a photo on their phone. The employee was advised they must have the physical copy on premise. On 02/1026 at 10:16PM, Milwaukee police were dispatched to a property damage investigation, revealed a subject damage to a pump at the business. On 03/07/2026 at 2PM, Milwaukee police were dispatched to a shots fired. Investigation revealed that this was baseless. However, a property damage did occur while the victim was pumping gas and unknown suspect to hit the rear window with the board causing it to shatter. The business was cooperative with the investigation and allowed officers to view video surveillance of the incident.

Okay. Would the applicant like to speak to the police report?

Just briefly. You know, the last licensing cycle seems like an anomaly because the committee has in the last five years has renewed this, I believe, without a hearing. And so given the issues that we've had, we've sat down with all of our staff and went over all the procedures. Some of the things are not on the staff, it's on us. In the past we've had the weights and measures on extended hours license. I guess there was obviously a scoop on part. I'm not going to say it was on Fabi's part. It would have been on our part. We'll take responsibility for that but it happened. We do now have we've applied I believe we've applied for

that with this

in this application for that. Regarding the when we didn't have the our staff didn't have the access to the cameras, we've now given them all of the police excuse me, all of the passwords so they have access to that. In the past, my client was telling me we had some relationship with MPD where they were able to access the cameras. I asked him if it was fuses. He said it wasn't fuses.

I I don't know what went back maybe ten, fifteen years ago, but I've told him and he'd he'd also said that that that camera system that they had before with the police is not they're not using it anymore. So I suggest that we get FUSES. He's gonna be reaching out to the liaison officer to try to set that up as soon as possible. Our food dealer's license right now is from 12AM to 11:59PM. So I again, acknowledge and we acknowledge the issues that have popped up in the last cycle.

Again, it seems like an anomaly if you look on the first page of your e book. It will show you by the yellow highlighted bubble that it's been renewed for last five years without an issue.

Okay. Thank you. Thank you, council Maystellman. Questions on the police report from committee members? Alright. I do want to note, I don't think is there an is this also a new application for extended hours?

No, the extended hours was approved January of this year.

Okay.

The application was submitted ends of last year and was approved. They didn't hold an extended license, extended hours license, until or it was 2016 the last time they held it. And so the application that was submitted last year was a new one which was granted.

Okay. Which was granted. So what are the hours now?

Your hours are now or

At twenty four hours. Twenty four hours.

And do you note that on our on our application? Yeah. Alright. Questions from Alderman Dmitryovich on the police report?

Thank you, Madam Chair. There were some discrepancies as outlined both in the attorney and the police report on the extended hours. And that's an item when you're opening it up for discussion that I want to talk about. Could you just have one more time licensing explain kind of because they were cited a number of times on the police report for not having their extended hours license. Let me ask it like this. Is it accurate that the number of times they were cited in the police report for extended hours, they did not hold. They were operating without a license for extended hours. I just want to have that on the record.

I'm pulling up the police report so I can refer to it.

All Alderwoman may may I, madam chair?

Oh, go ahead, councilor I

believe that Alderwoman is is correct. I mean, we did not have the extended hours even though we were under the impression that we've had it because we've had it in the past, but good I

think

that's

in the file that would have required point. My that's client to come before the committee in the last five years. Nevertheless,

he

was wrong. He dropped the ball and he's, you know, he's he's acknowledging that.

And when did he?

If I may, the police report, madam chair, the majority of these issues apart from the major infraction of operating without a license for extend hours, the majority of of the the neighborhood issues have happened during that time period. So that is an issue that we'll need to discuss.

Alright. And when did they get approved for extended hours again license division?

January. It

was, yeah, granted in on January 20.

2026?

2026.

Yeah.

And the local alderman is correct. The majority of those incidences took place when technically we didn't have an a license to be open

at that

time. Okay.

And ma'am madam chair, not only during when they didn't have a license to be open during that time, but the time period of the night. Another way of saying it is the negative things are happening post midnight.

Oh, the

I wanna be very clear about that. The police report suggests that none of these things aren't happening at 5PM. There you just heard it. It was like 12AM, 1AM, etcetera.

You you Alderman, get I I'm sorry. I wasn't clear. Yes. I acknowledge that. I, all those majority of them took place during the extended hours when they should not have been open.

Okay. But now the extended hours application was approved January of this year and it is a twenty four hour business. Are there any neighbors present that wish to testify in this item today? Okay. Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify. We are in the 14th Aldermanic District. Alderman Dimitrivich.

Okay. Thank you. I guess this is kind of a unique one And there I I wanna admit there was some miscommunication in between a little bit of licensing, also, know, we always check with our police department and community liaison officers when there's a number of phone calls like this because it as you know, all of those visits take time and money and resources from our neighborhood. I'm very disappointed. Let's take away the fact that there seem to be that miscommunication on the actual license to operate during those hours madam chair what I'd like to direct the committee's attention to is the activities that are happening in a pattern around that time.

In addition, have younger folks and some connections. You know, it seems like that we're kind of hanging out according to the police report. So I wonder if the operator has considered, you know, possibly changing those hours of service. Has that has that been considered by the operator and their representation?

No, I don't believe it has at this point. Do you want to speak?

I did change the cashier so I don't have the one cashier no longer who had like friends come over and hang out. So and we put up, you know, signs like no loitering so we can call the police and then have them sitated if somebody is hanging out. And then we have a lot of, like, homeless population in the area, like, along the railway property on 6th Street, you know. There's a lot of issues with those people to come to. There's, like, three businesses in this intersection, like four businesses actually, pharmacies like Walgreen, people McDonald's, and the gas station then, you know, so there's a lot of, like, people coming.

They're just loitering and then panhandling, you know. And we have to keep going back and forth with them all day.

And if I may, older woman, again, it it seems like an anomaly. Alright? I mean, not to make an excuse, but the last five years, there weren't any incidences on the police report even though they were opened at at at extended hours. That being said, I'm not trying to negate what happened in the last year. We are taking proactive measures to ensure that those issues don't happen again. And we continue to be conducting ourselves where, like we did in the last five years, there aren't any more issues.

All right. Okay. May I, madam chair? Yes, of course. Yeah.

I mean, allowing the pumps to be open twenty four hours seems reasonable. I'm just trying to ask you what part of your business plan and business model needs to have the actual store open past midnight. And have you can while you're talking there, have you considered

So we

have a lot of

working Let her let her finish.

Yeah. These incidents are very recent as well, madam chair. Sorry. I I took a pause there. Sorry about that.

Go ahead.

Like, we have a lot of people going to work at the factories, you know, working class people. They start their shift at 4AM, 5AM. So, like, you know, we need to be ready and then the workers like, you know, after midnight, they do cleaning and stuff like that, you know? A lot of people are doing third shift, our customers. So they are, you know, coming around, you know, midnight and then, you know, a lot of them start early around like four 4AM that go to first year.

I mean, did you talk to the elder woman before you decided to go twenty four hours or is this why is this a new conversation we're

having?

Well, it was approved.

Yeah. Right. In January. But did you talk to the other woman?

I when I applied for it, I called the office and then I talked with the the attendant, you know, and then she said they have no problems. Okay. Yeah. Alright. So that's what I do. Okay.

You. Thank you. Yeah.

As I stated previously, yes, our office was in communication, myself and Terry. We had there there was a little bit of a miscommunication, a misunderstanding clearly. They thought they had a license, but they didn't. I'm not sure if licensing sent it. I don't I don't know that we truly have to relitigate that. Unfortunately, they were operating for quite some time without the extended hours. Then they got it, and then many issues started happening very fairly recently if you look at the timing of the police report. So I I still think it's unfortunate that they were operating without it. We allowed it because we kind of thought they had it. Regardless, let's set that aside for a moment.

There are these I'm applicant has considered sorry. Sorry. Perhaps since you didn't have the license for a while for extended hours. Is there any consideration on your part that you are considering changing any of your hours for this the store, not the pumps, the store.

No, older woman. We we don't want to do that. I do notice of the nine incidences, four of them took place after after the hours. And then again, we're we we, you know, we get put in a situation where do we call the police? Right? Because then it's the p a 33 is generated and then, you know, the the y'all can come back to us and say, well, you know, we're wasting resources.

Well, you're not please don't. Attorney May Suman, you know full well that the committee takes everything to account. Do not we never want you to not reach out to police.

Right. And that's what we have. And that's why I always tell all my clients to do that.

And then since we got the license, we only had one after hours where the police came to check the license.

Okay.

You know?

Did you attempt to talk to the alderwoman before committee today? Have you talked to the alderwoman before committee today about this?

No. Okay. I would think

that everybody here is remiss for not convening beforehand because now we're having a long discussion in committee.

Well, it's about the extended hours and that conversation took place and it was passed, right? I mean, so that the issue isn't anything else. It's the extended hours which was approved a few months ago and my client said as the Alderman concurred, they were in discussions. So, I didn't think that this was the extended hours is what we've been talking about the whole time would be an issue because it was approved a few months ago and it was communication.

Alright. So, it's I'm hearing the alderman ask, are you willing to change your hours? No. And you are saying no.

Right.

You want to continue to operate twenty four hours

a day?

We have for for many, many, many, many years and we're serving we're serving, you know, folks that are working, you know, the third shift. That's why we're open. If we weren't making money, then we wouldn't be open.

Alright. And for the edification of the public, if the applicant does not want to amend their application, they they are within their rights to decline. With that, Elderwoman Demetraevich.

Okay. Sorry, I unmuted there. Was when did licensing I'm just gonna ask one last thing, then I'll wrap it up. When was like, when did license mail them the extended hours license?

It would've been mailed out that same day on the common council date of 01/20.

Okay.

Well, guess I'm interested in holding the items open for extended hours.

It's not

good for consideration in January.

I'm I'm really confused. I don't know if license division needs to weigh in here. The extended hours application is not before us. It was passed in January. Was it scheduled or what's the problem? Was the alderman not notified appropriately or can I get some context?

What do you mean the alderman was?

The alderman's asking about whole about the extended hours application but we held it. We heard it in January, correct? And it was passed. Nothing for us. Right? So, does somebody wanna give me context? I don't know if Alderman Dimitrevich or licensed division. Sure. Why is there some miscommunication here? I do just wanna add that the three checks that

were conducted in that period were they didn't have the extended laws. There wasn't citations issued either. So I I think the elder woman has said that citations were issued. Citations were never issued for any of those violations either.

So just to put that out there. Okay. And and why would citation of citations not have been issued?

Depends on the officers that want to go investigate the. Okay.

They just have the license a week before.

Alright. But you're right. We're not here on that.

We're

I'm sorry. I'm I'm trying to get some clarification on the confusion around the extended hours application is not before us. It was approved in January. Right. Alderman Dimitrevich, do you would you like to weigh in here? I'm struggling getting context about why there's some confusion.

Well, I apologize. I'm sorry for the committee's time, but you could see why we've been analyzing this for a while trying to get answers. It's odd to me that the police would go three times during those hours for disturbances or a license check. They didn't have a license for extended hours and then they were cited. So it's it's hard for me to understand. And at the end of

the

day, I think there is an issue with their service past midnight.

And this should have happened last week.

Wait, attorney miss Smith.

Right.

But then in January, the application for extended hours was passed. Correct, alderwoman? Right.

And when was the last item on the police report? If we could get that from the police? When the date and the last item on the police report? Excuse me.

So the extended licenses was before the committee in January. He had three additional items after the extended licenses were issued. There one of them was a license premise report. Our license premise check by the district. So it wasn't a call for service. It was just officers doing a proactive check. There was the 02/1026 at 10:16PM property damage and then there was additional call on 3726 at 2PM for shots fired incident. So the two additional items on the police report were not during the extended hours license period.

And that's what I was gonna point out.

Okay. And I just wanna be clear. That was 2PM in the afternoon, that last item? Yes, ma'am. Okay. All right. With that, I think we're we've kind of exhausted discussion. Alderman Dimitravich, do you want to make any final comments and then we should probably let the applicant speak as well before we head into committee?

Yes. Final comment. I don't understand why when they didn't have the extended hour license before January, three times they were visited without a license and they were not cited. It is hard for me to understand that and I think there's issues post midnight. It looks like there was a licensing like perhaps they weren't given the citation because there was a licensing miscommunication. I can't infer that prior to January. We were trying to help us along in January. Then there were more issues. So at the time of their license renewal now, I'm bringing up those issues. I don't think that positive things are happening at the time after midnight.

Also they do need a warning letter for those number of negative incidences that have happened.

Thank you.

Thank you, Aldo Woman. I wanted to give attorney Mason a chance to make brief closing comments before we head into committee.

Just briefly. I was not prepared today to talk about the extended license application because I know it had just been approved, right? And if if it if there were issues at that time, then they should have been discussed at at that time. Right? I mean, and so I'm not sure why we're doing it right now. If it if if you all passed it, I we would concur. We we'd be happy to take a warning letter and we will continue to work with the police. I think part of it is we have a good working relationship with the police. And as as sergeant noted, since we've had the extended hours, we haven't had any issues in extended hours. I mean, the police showed up at 01:52 asking where our license was.

Right? We showed them a picture of it. It was issued by the police by the city, but there weren't any real problems that took place after hours. So with all that, we would request that we have our and we're not here for the license extended but for our Philly station and food dealers in which in measurements license renewed.

All right. I know Alderman Bergalis has a question. Go ahead, Alderman Bergalis.

No question. More of a statement for context. The South Side had a number of gas stations that were operating in extended hours without the without the appropriate permits and that was enforced regularly from the district. That has since changed. And we have seen a number of these South Side extended hours.

I can count four in my district that we've processed in recent months. This I believe is a similar situation where it was a long time operator and for whatever reason, the license was never applied for, granted, or contested or cited. So, there were problems. I don't don't think you know, we've exhausted the discussion about extended hours. But for context on the South Side, there were a number of places that just weren't paying the or obtaining the appropriate license for those time periods.

I see two items on the police report, property damage and a shattered window after that extended hours license was granted. There are a number of items on the police report. So, I'm encouraged by the trend and I'm I'm glad that the applicant has the appropriate licenses now like all good operators should in the city of Milwaukee. They'll move for renewal with a warning letter.

Alright. Alderman Peter Bergalis moves for renewal with a warning letter. Is there any further discussion on the motion?

And madam chair for context that is consistent with what we've done with the other operators that have recently found the light and obtained the proper necessary extended hours license. Thank you.

All right.

You. Point of information, Madam Chair, just one question for the future.

Do that.

To to

We

The

license. Discussion from committee? Any objection? Hearing none, so ordered.

Thank you very much.

Good luck to you. I would advise you to stay in contact with your elder person.

Yes. Thank

you. We'll move on to our nine: 3zero am agenda item. Corey R. Kerrigan, agent for RC Automotive LLC, Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer Licenses Application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey, hookah services, bands, karaoke, patrons dancing, one pool table for RC Towing and Repair featuring the Garage Dance Studio at 7419 West Bradley Road. Is Corey R. Kerrigan present?

I'm here.

Alright. And I see elder woman Taylor is also here with us virtually. Good morning.

Good morning. Yes, I'm here.

Alright. If you'll both raise your right hand, we'll get you sworn in.

Do you signify from an independent plaintiff's suppurator of the state of Wisconsin that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and affirmative truth?

I do. I do. Thank you.

Alright. And, elder woman, do we I just wanted to make sure we we heard you as well.

I do. Yes.

Thank you. Alright. Alright, mister Kerrigan, are you on receipt of notice today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Thank you. And if you'll please state your name and address for the record.

My name is Corey Kerrigan senior. Address is 4450 North 57th Street, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Thank you. Miss Lopez, are there any holds?

Holds for occupancy and holds for inspection.

Alright. Sergeant Kovnejo, is there a police report?

There are no police reports.

Alright. I see it's a new application. Mister Kerrigan, will you tell us about your experience and plan for the business?

Yes. My experience for basically a jazz club. It's kinda it's kinda new, the part of the experience, but what I wanna do is offer live music and food for patrons to come in and, you know, enjoy themselves. You know, a nice nice, clean, safe environment.

Alright. And you've had experience running a similar business? Can you

What I what I ran was pretty much just like a hall wrinkle sort of business. That's what I've done in the past. Okay.

Thank you. Questions for the applicant from committee members at this time? Questions from Alderman Taylor for the applicant?

No questions.

Okay. Are there any neighbors present that we should testify on this item today? Thank you. Alright, let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify. We are in the 9th Aldermanic District. Alderwoman Taylor?

The 9th District is in support of mister Carrington and his business.

Okay. Thank you. Alright.

Madam Chair.

Alderman Alex Bauer.

I'm just curious because I noticed here on the our agenda here, is the same applicant applying for a separate license in our next agenda item at almost next store. Can I maybe I'm just going to can we get some information about that? Is that going to be I mean, the addresses that we have 7419 West Bradley, 7427, those might be Ah. I I just want I just want to maybe get that cleared up what the if that those

It's a strip mall. I just pulled it up.

Madam Chair? Okay.

Attorney Gresham.

Before we discuss it, we should call it.

Okay.

So if we want to, we could resolve this one as a separate entity or alternatively, we call a second one and then deal with them collectively. But again, those would be an independent motions and would have to be handled as separate hearings But to discuss them kind of collectively, we should call them so that it's properly noticed.

Okay. If I can can I hold this one to the call of the chair? Don't want to resolve it without think Alderman Bauer brings up

I a think it's a great point. I think we should call it, again, just for a public notice purpose and for agenda purposes. So it'd be called and then again we will be resolving them as kind of a group and then again voting them both, reopening the first, voting that one and then voting the second one as well. For neighbor purposes, you may want to call neighbors on the first and then kind of move into the second. But as far as discussion regarding the second, I think it's best that we call before we discuss.

Okay.

Just for, I mean, clarity of purpose here.

Yes. And we did ask for neighbors on this item. There are no neighbors present.

Hold and then call just for clarity. He's already been sworn as has the alder.

Very good. So Alderman Alex Brower moves to hold this item to the call of the chair and hearing no objections so ordered, we're going to move on to the 09:35AM agenda item. Corey R. Kerrigan, agent for Cove LLC, Class B Tavern Public Entertainment Premises and Food Dealer Licenses application requesting instrumental musicians, disc jockey, hookah services, bands, patron contests, patrons dancing, and one pool table for Cove at 7427 West Bradley Road. Very good. And Mr. Kerrigan is on the board. He's been sworn in. Do I have to ask him if he's in receipt of this one as well? Yes.

Okay. And on this application, Mr. Kerrigan, are you in receipt of notice of today's meeting with the possibility your application may be denied?

Yes.

Alright. Thank you. He's already identified himself.

Yeah and we can move right into the clarifying question from Alder Brower.

Very good. Alright. If you could answer Alderman Alex Brower's question, mister Kerrigan, we're seeing two applications that look very near each other.

Yes. So that it is two different licensing that I have did apply for. One is RCI Automotive feature in the garage dance studio. There, it's a dance studio. Okay. I'm a dancer. I think I do Chicago style. Step in is kinda like a almost like a formal dance, almost like ballrooming. I've been doing that since about here about 2000 since 2016, and I kinda support the Milwaukee Step community. It's kinda like I'm like the the pillar of the community for them.

So it's not a lot of places where they can go, where they, you know, can actually dance to it's kinda like, you know, old school musical or just nice music. You know, it's it's a more of a older crowd. I almost would say 45, 50, and up. I'm kinda like the youngest guy, and I'm kinda giving these senior citizens and peep you know, them type of people to come out and dance and get exercise.

Mhmm.

So the problem was we couldn't sell alcohol or food, so that's why I kinda wanted to get my alcohol, my liquor license, and my food business license so then I can also provide for them, you know, wine and beer, liquor, food, you know, while they dance and, you know, things of that, you know, of that nature.

Mr. Kerrigan I'm looking for some but weren't everything you just said are you weren't you talking about the previous application for the dance studio?

Yeah that's the dance studio so the cove would be a jazz it'd be more like a jazz lounge.

We're discussing cove right now. So yes, I want you to tell us.

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. So yes, The Cove, yes, it's a different, it's a separate location. It's the same location but right next door. And I want to offer, you know, jazz and food here.

Okay. Madam chair.

Attorney Gresham.

Well, MPD does have a police report for this location. That was noticed. So, I believe they're going to read it in. I believe it may actually apply to one or both locations or the individual applicant, but it was properly noticed for this specific location. So we should read it in, again, as it applies to the current hearing and the current location that we are contending with.

Okay. So I'll just start with are there any holds, Ms.

Hold for inspection, holds for occupancy for the application of Cove.

Okay. Thank you. Sergeant Covenant, was there a police report?

Okay. On 09/1819 at 10:57AM, Milwaukee Police conducted a licensed premise check at 7419 West Bradley Road. The officer noted two tow trucks were not on file with the city license and missing the company name. The officer went over city ordinance with the agents. On one twenty eight twenty one at 04:02PM, Monkey Milwaukee Police were dispatched to a tamer violation at 7419 West Bradley Road. On arrival, officers observed approximately 20 subjects who the agent stated were there for a funeral wake. The agent stated that the host dance classes periodically and sell chips and soda, however, did not sell liquor. Officers observed a cash register at that was not turned on and liquor bottles in the office. The officer advised the agent that they cannot sell liquor nor host events without a permit. The agent was cooperative.

So Madam Chair, again, were noticed for this location but apply to the previously read location which

should

be known to the agent as they are both, again, under his name. We could read them back in on seventy fournineteen if that's the prerogative of the committee. I think it would be good and likely material to discussion of both. But again, they were noticed for this location but are relevant to the previous location. So again, we may have to read them again just for clarity sake, but we're reading them now because they were properly noticed here.

And we can contend with them here or we can go back and contend with them in the previous location. But again, we can treat these kind collectively in a certain respect because they are next door under the same agent for similar purposes. But again, we have to kind of procedurally contend with either separately. I know that sounds a little bit technical, but it's the way that should be done.

Well, additionally though, these are from a few years ago. This is a new application. This, the applicant, this is, wouldn't it be under a previous premise report? Chair, I, the way just looking at

the license premise reports, the there was no licenses there for this type of license previously, but the applicant was the one that was on scene for both of those incidents.

Also, he was running prior? Yes, ma'am. Businesses? Okay. Would you like to speak to the police report, mister Kerrigan?

Yes, I would. Thank you. For the let's see here. Hold on. For that first police report on 09/1819 where MPD was conducting license check, and there were tow trucks.

I think it was, like, two of them that was out there that was just purchased waiting to get registered and everything was sitting out on the line. He told me that they pretty much I had to register him and get my logo on the side of him. And then on the second one, one of my family members passed, and we had a a wait not a wait, but what do they call it? A repass. That's what it was.

The repass. And and it was during the day, probably maybe, I don't know, three, 04:00 in the evening, and police came in and said that we were selling alcohol, there's somebody who was selling alcohol, and I let it they came in, they looked behind the bar with no alcohol back there. I personally had my personal alcohol in my office, and that's where they seen, you know, the bottles. And they did let me know that I couldn't host events and that I cannot sell alcohol. And I I told them, well, you know, I I won't do it and that was that.

Okay. Questions on the police report for the applicant at this time? Sir, you weren't cited for for this violation?

No, ma'am.

Okay. But you immediately stopped selling liquor because you were made aware

of I your wasn't I'm sorry. Not to cut you off. I wasn't selling liquor. I had it for my personal use. It was a family repast. It wasn't like it was a total stranger. Was it was for a family.

Mhmm. But

you still need yes. You are you're now you understand you need to apply, and that's why you're before us today.

Oh, yes.

Okay. Alderman Taylor, do you have questions on the police report?

No. I don't have any questions on this police report.

Okay. And are there any neighbors present to testify on this item for Cove LLC? Okay. Let the record reflect there are no neighbors present to testify. Alderman Brower, did you have any? I know you were the one who pointed

No, no. I just wanted to get clear on, it looks like it's going be two separate businesses with and I did look at the files. There'll be potentially different operations, hours and well, some of the hours will overlap, but I just wanted to be clear about the two businesses there. It looks like they'll be the same owner, same agent operating both businesses next to each other. I think my questions have been answered about that.

Okay. Very good. And they're right next door to each other, mister Kerrigan?

Yes, ma'am.

So, you feel you'll be able to be on-site for both of them and keep an eye on both of them simultaneously?

Yes, ma'am.

Alright. We are in the 9th Aldermanic District, elder woman Taylor on Cove.

Yeah. So I just asked the only thing that I have is is to see what Mr Carrington would think is a realistic time for opening, because he has on his application 8AM, but, he has indicated he's not a breakfast spot, for an 8AM open. So I didn't know what his realistic time for opening, what time he think he's really going to open. And I like for him to adjust his hours accordingly. So what time do you think you'll open realistically?