Planning and Economic Development Committee - Regular Meeting

All right. Good morning, everyone. It is Wednesday, December 3. It's time to call to order the regularly scheduled design review board meeting. If everyone could please stand and say the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty, justice for all. Way it's gone?

No. Go ahead. Okay.

Benny, can you call the roll?

Mr. Deibel? Here. Mr. Dodobits? Here. Mr. Pickett is absent. Mr. Weethy? Here. Mr. Glassner? Here. Mr. Wortko is absent. Also present are student representative, Olivia Musi.

Okay. Next item is the approval of the minutes, but they from last meeting, they are not available just yet, so we'll postpone that until next meeting. And then next is business items. Olivia, can you introduce the first item?

Will the representative for Item 2,541 SELU Holdings Storage Units please come forward and present?

Good morning. My name is Jim Persudo. I'm with Four Points Architectural Services, the architect for this project. So I guess I'd like to just kind of quickly go through the drawings and the design concepts. And we'll just kind of go through it drawing by drawing at this point. And then I'll present some of the samples and materials.

If you can just show us how do you go to the landscaping plan, show us your plan and show us your elevations? Absolutely. We reviewed the drawings pretty carefully. I'm just letting you know we Excellent.

Can move this along rather

Sounds great to me. Thank you.

Thank you for wanting to go through every sheet.

It was going to be brief, but yes.

I know

architects. Briefing architects don't always go through it. Think of jumbo shrimp.

Let's start back. So, if you don't mind going back to that site plan you just had up there and maybe showing the difference between Phase one and Phase two because we're probably going to

be concentrating on Phase one today. Correct.

I don't think you want to review a Phase two, but there might be some comments about

it. Okay.

So let's hit that real quick, and then we can talk about the building elevations get into Sure. The other

No problem. So we're breaking the project into two phases. Phase one, the first to be constructed, are the five storage buildings, kind of furthest away from Main Street. We have a total of actually 232 storage units. The first two buildings are heated conditioned spaces.

The first building, Storage Building Number 1, contains an office and restrooms for the on-site manager. This entire area will be fenced off with a six foot high fence And 20 also seeing the

of

the the

we're

The existing drive in restaurant and the storage building in the back will be removed as part of Phase one as well. Just to give you a brief background, we are planning on underground water storm water detainage. So there will be no exposed ponding on-site, especially since most of that would have required a pond at the corner of Magua And South Main, which is a valuable piece of property. So on this particular plan, there are shaded areas in the parking spaces or drives in between the buildings that indicate where those underground storage tanks would be located.

And where do they discharge?

They will eventually discharge into I think I've got that here on the utility plan. So on this plan, they all kind of flow downhill. We catch all the gutters and downspouts from the buildings themselves as well as on-site drainage. And eventually that will tie into the existing system out on Main Street.

But

that's to slow the so we don't overload

the Right. System. Correct. As

part of Phase one, we're incorporating a new drive off of Maine, kind of here on the southwest corner of the property to provide better access to eventually Phase two and the dumpster that's included enclosure that's included in Phase one. We're installing a new drive off of Magua, very close to where the original curb cuts are and apron are off of that street, pretty much directly across the drive for the bowling alley. That is

Will build the parking that's on the Phase one, Phase two line as part of Phase one?

Yes. Because That will all be in place. Correct. The only parking that we wouldn't do at this point would be anything associated with the future retail at the corner.

The west of the future retail building, is that west and north of the future retail building?

Yes, correct.

Okay.

So Phase two is dedicated these buildings will be dedicated for retail or office use at some point in the future. But the intent is to get Phase one constructed, some income coming in in order to accommodate Phase two.

And you got to test the market too. Is it going to be retail or is it going to be office, sir? Sure. I understand.

Nothing specifically planned tenant wise at this point. Any other questions about the phasing of the project? Or I can move on to the landscaping

Yes, landscaping, building materials and away we go. Got it. Just for the record, we note your variance. This board cannot provide you with the variance. We can support it.

Sure.

I support the curb cut where you have it because I like to getting it further away as far away from Main Street as you could. And so I believe you've accomplished that without encroaching too much onto the properties to the east of your curb So I think you've done that very well. We do support the variance.

Yes. And we will be submitting to zoning and Board of Zoning Appeals to get approval, hopefully, for that variance. And part of the reason that drive ended up where it was, was from a grading standpoint to make sure it worked for both Phase one and Phase two to access the site As far as landscaping, as I mentioned previously, the entire storage area, one, is enclosed with security fencing, six foot high that also double as screening.

Mhmm.

That's a quick representation there of what the fencing would look like. Just a sample. So it's these would be mounted vertically on either side of the frame to provide a little bit of air movement through it while still being a little more robust than, let's say, a vinyl fence for security purposes. So that fence essentially goes from the trash enclosure around back to Building Number 5, and then from the northeast corner of Building Number 5 along to the entrance gate area. This space was widened.

This drive was widened a little bit to accommodate emergency vehicle, which we did include as part of the submittal as far as, radius required requirements, for the emergency vehicles.

And you saw the requirement for a knock box?

Yes. And I think I believe I noted that basically at the entrance to this gate, for the egress and e entry to the storage area, we would include a knock box at that point, probably incorporated into the card reader or keypad, whatever is the final solution to allow access.

Talk to

the chief.

Wherever the

heck he wants it, put it there.

The And that planning group is represented down here. And that's just a series of deciduous and evergreen shrubs and trees. We have kind of a larger I believe that yeah. Red maple, that's kind of the centerpiece. Uh-huh.

A couple barberry plants, forsythia, and well,

I don't even know if I

can pronounce this. I'm a it's a Paris. Low mounding evergreen. Let's call it that Latin classic. Yes. I haven't studied that one for a while. But anyway, So there are evergreen shrubs. There's a large tree as a focal point and surrounding shrubs. So that occurs along that full length of fence between this property or these buildings and the adjacent residential properties.

Jim, has that burned up a little bit?

It's I I think it's pretty much flush. It varies along the face of that, edge of that drive. From a grading standpoint, I have to look back at that

for a second. While you're looking at that, I guess, the intent then be the area between the wooded area and those planting areas to be lawn or? Yes. Okay. Yes. But how do you, I guess, you have a plan for how you plan to maintain that? Everything looks kind of blocked off from access.

Right. I think there would still be access from this new drive off of Maigua.

Okay.

Do to

that.

We'll

to

And

that's kind of the intent, but there should still be access to get to around the the outside of the fence from that from that drive along the backside of those trees. I think we could also, when we get to further development, maybe add a gate to the back corner here just to allow access for utility vehicles and mowers

and such. Yep. Oh.

There

you go. Perfect plan.

So we do have a couple interior landscaped islands in the parking area within the storage, area itself. This is purely just parking for the the users of the storage units. This is not outdoor storage by any means. But we did provide some landscape island in here. Again, we kinda have a central tree. That was sorry. Read my own.

That other microphone works. Oh.

Is that okay?

Yep.

That I believe is I can't read oh, there it is. A ginkgo tree. And then it's surrounded by lower shrubs. Again, we're talking the barberry, and that's pretty much it. We do have a couple light poles within those islands just because we couldn't properly light that area with just wallpacks between the two buildings.

So there's a light pole in each of those islands. There are a couple light poles along this new drive and a a light pole or two light poles over here by the new drive on the Southwest corner. And then the rest of the landscaping is basically little bit of a screenage here at Building 1 where we'll have probably a small condensing unit outside of that building on the north side, to accommodate probably a mini split for the office and restroom area. The rest of the heating elements in there will be probably be gas fired units, so we don't have any outstanding other condensing units that we have to worry about screening. So we have some landscaping there to help screen that edge of the building, screen the entry gate and that condensing unit.

You may have mentioned this, but

between

Phase one and Phase two, if Phase two doesn't go for a couple of years,

And color

And

on

that.

Just to provide some additional screening to our phase one buildings. But, yes, the intent would be any earth we disturb in grading. Any of the steep sections will put erosion control matting down, and then we'll seed that area until it's ready to be developed.

Probably need your name

Steve Rector, owner of the property. Our hope is to develop this in conjunction with this as we're moving forward. We're already working with potential tenants there to I So keep it that's

just want to make sure that the front part of this on Main Street had a good appearance, well kept lawn temporarily or whatever. And I do appreciate the fact that you're like 157 feet away from the rear property line. I know there's a huge grade difference. Think it maxes out at about 30 feet.

Yes,

correct. But trying to stay as far away from that residential area, both on the north and the east, I think, is something you've really tried to do.

Sure. Yes. We tried to make our best accommodations and still provide enough storage units to be profitable.

We want to be good neighbors.

I mean, that's our goal.

Also are suggesting some landscaping out here at the corner of Magua And Main Street. Again, that's more future development and that may be fine tuned as we go along, but we at least have some buffer there planned.

Yes, it'd be good to get the plants in now too, so they're more mature when you build the other buildings. Sure. It doesn't look like a brand new, looks like a little bit better established. We like whatever we've put so far. Beautiful. Show us the buildings.

Will do. Okay. So the buildings are primarily masonry where we don't have overhead doors, that is. We're we're basically

You need

make the

masonry overhead doors?

Those are getting a little heavy.

A little heavy.

Yeah. We can put a thin veneer on those. So we're looking at these are samples of the masonry that we're looking at using. So we have basically three different colors of masonry, a lighter color that kind of would reflect or mimic a stone look, and that's kind of at let's see. Kinda at this main entry point for the office area in Building Number 1.

K.

And it appears to help break up the facade along these long stretches. K. It's also this accent band here to break up again vertically the facade. Down below, we're looking at a split face block, darker tones. And then up above that band would be like a quick brick product, which is technically CMU, buildings, this will be as a veneer and there will be framing first quarter we've in

of

in we've so that takes us up mostly to that about the eight foot point or the top of the garage doors typically. From there, we're going with a metal siding up to the roofline. At the main entrance building, Building Number 1 around the office, kind of this higher area here. We're looking at this wood look metal panel

k.

To add some warmth to it. The rest of the panels would have a similar or matching color. This may not be an exact match, but along kind of the perimeter other than this accented area at the entry. Again, just to be a a little more on the affordable side. So that this panel would occur along the side here at the entry area, along the front facing portion, and then the rest of it would be more of the flat, straightforward color metal panels up here.

So roof wise, we're looking at a similar color as to what we're using for the fencing. So this was just the sample of the look of the fence. The actual color would be more in this range. So it's kind of all these warm earth tones to kinda pull everything together. And so that would be the gutters in the metal roof itself, would be the darker tone as well as the garage door, overhead doors.

Sounds good.

And so you can kinda see this on these primary facades with very little door openings. Were 75 to 80% masonry. On these backsides, if you take out all the door surface area, we're a little under. We're around well, on this particular facade, 58%. But on the ends, again, we're back up to 74%.

So we did the best we could to try to meet that requirement. As you go back with the other buildings, there's more doors on the other nonconditioned spaces. It's basically all exterior access storage units. And then the final larger building in the back is intended to be used for boat, RV storage. The doors are 13 by 14.

We're a little taller. We're still well under the 22 foot limit for storage buildings in this zoning district. And then the backside of that last storage unit that's facing the residential properties to the east is all masonry. So it's 88% masonry at this point. A couple of those smaller buildings in between do have storage units on either end that would represent by this elevation here.

So there are two areas facing north and two areas facing south that will have doors facing in that direction. And And And then we'll we'll And that. Phase one into the Phase two retail office structure. So again, facing Main Street, we have more openings, storefront entries. We'll eventually have signage and so forth for each of those tenants as well, but that's to be determined.

From a lighting perspective, I won't get into all the details, but again, we have a couple a few poles throughout the site. They're 20 feet or under, and the rest of the site lighting is being provided by these wall packs. This particular fixture would be more involved with Phase two on either side of the entries future entries.

Sounds good.

Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a favorable recommendation for approval with the understanding that we support the variance, but we cannot approve it in this Board and that our approval is only for Phase one. That's about it.

Got a motion. Do I have a second? I'll second. Mr. Yadavitsky, do

you have any comments?

Yes. You

look like you're holding back.

This is your chance.

Curtis Chirin, you know that. Just as you sit way down there, I'm not

sure why now. We should

have moved you up after we knew no one was coming.

Mr. Dodovich?

Yes.

Mr. Deibel? Yes. Mr. Glassner?

Yes. Mr. Reethy?

Yes. Jim, thank you. Can you want to pick this up? Very expensive printing all that stuff. Appreciate your thoroughness.

Thank you, guys.

All right. Next item is 2,544 Atlantic Food Signage. The representative, please come forward, introduce yourself, and tell us how your project complies with our standards.

Good morning. My name is Noah Saran. I'm with Arco National Construction, the general contractor that did the interior renovation at Atlantic Foods on Global Gateway. I would say the item in question here is a signage review. And I believe the discrepancy we were going to discuss is the overall square footage of the sign.

Why don't we just talk about the sign Okay.

In general So

the sign in general, it is a CMU block sign with a stucco facade face painted to match the building exterior. The Atlantic Food sign is a black metal, stood off the sign there. They did make couple changes here and there to add to add, directional arrows for customer and, shipping parking there as well as the address. The sign itself is a 120 inches by 95 inches, which is greater than the allotted 60 square feet. So I had a meeting with Tom as well as other staff members to discuss a possible way to separate the sign from the base by adding a separation bar there.

What the line above?

Well, yes, the line above, but it's where the sign actually is, the content not the space between if you're trying to raise it. So that blank area does not count as sign face.

That's what

we're trying get. Okay.

Yes. Just want to make sure everyone knew that.

Curtis, you're good with that?

Yes. I'm worried about

it. What we like about it, they won't have to put up signs on the direct people at the corners. And those things get run over by trucks. This is primarily a distribution facility. Yes, it's probably better, safer. The only thing that staff wants to do is confirm that it's set back the appropriate amount from the road right of way. That's all. So it will need stake prior to installation.

Okay.

I

can make that happen.

Okay.

Is there any I know I read there's no this isn't internally illuminated. Are there going be any sort of exterior lighting

Yes. We do have two fog floodlights shining up at it.

And you're going to provide a landscaping plan?

Landscaping is existing. So any landscaping would be replaced if we need to.

Do we want them to provide a little

bit more landscaping around this? I don't think you need it. It's pretty much grown pretty well down in this area. Yes, just don't

know the area, to be honest with you. So I want to make sure.

Just so the Board knows, this was a former Diebold facility. Was their global logistics that was converted to cold storage for Atlantic Seafoods.

Is that

correct?

Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion for favorable recommendation with the understanding that the modification has shown adding the lime would be added. Is that an insy or an outsy, by the way? Because it's kind of protrudes out in one drawing, and then it looks like it goes in on the other drawing. But

So this this was the original. That was supposed to be a

a sandstone cap, if you will. Okay. They got rid of that. I'm proposing it would be the same material as the sign lettering itself, a Does black black line

it go in or is it flush with that?

I was making I was gonna make it flush.

I just wanted to know. However, you're going to do it, I just want to know.

Okay.

So with the revision of the drawing based on the black line at '71, is that 71 inches?

Yes.

That's about it, isn't it?

Got a motion. Do I have a second?

I'll second.

Anybody call the roll. Mr. Dodovan.

It was your time to shine.

Mr. Dodovan?

Yes.

Mr. Glassner? Yes. Mr. Deibel? Yes.

I'm sure you can pick that up if you'd like.

Wayne, is there any unfinished business? No, sir. All right.

Motion to adjourn.

John's got somewhere

to be today. He's he's got to be somewhere. So you got somewhere to

be today.

We're gonna be.