Board of Aldermen - Regular Meeting

Please rise to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Roll call. Ality here. Ra here. Cover [snorts] is absent. Turner here. Bill here. Here. Can I get a motion to approve the approve of November 4th, 2025 meeting minutes, please? Have a second.

I'll second. All in favor? I. I get a motion approval of tonight's agenda. So a second. Second. All in favor. Special items. We have none. Appointments to boards of commissioners. We have none. Scheduled public comments. Just before we get started, just a reminder that all special all scheduled public comments should be into the clerk by Wednesday meeting before the meeting. Uh the first one we're going to introduce is Danny and Ricky McKe. Uh would one of you like to stand to the podium?

Please state your name and address. And gentlemen, just before we get started, we do have a rule. It's a threem minute time frame. Okay. Appreciate it. All right. My name is Rick McKe. This is my brother Danny McKe. I live out on MM. My brother Danny lives down in West Snowy Hills. Uh some of you probably remember us from about [snorts] a month ago. We was here at a meeting about the flooding at my mom's house. [clears throat]

up here tonight to get an update. We was told after the meeting that someone would be getting a hold of us in a week, someone would contact us. I've not heard a word from anybody. So, I'm up here tonight to kind of see what the update is with the situation. All right. Normally, we don't interject during these comments, but I will let you know that Kevin and I met at your mom's place last Friday. Kevin has a meeting to uh go back to your neighbors this coming Friday. Then we'll regroup after that and then we'll get back to you on Monday.

That's the public works director. Did the engineer get a chance to walk over there? Yeah. Why wasn't I called where I could walk it with her and if I had any questions? I was told somebody would get a hold of me a week after the meeting and it's been a month. I apologize for that, sir, but we will get a hold of you on next Monday. I promise.

So, are they planning on going in there? We've been told that they're going to go in there and clean out the uh basin, which is on my mom's property. I think everybody thinks it's on the neighbors, but it's on my mom's property where it goes into the pipes or they planning on cleaning that out. What we heard and going down at the end of that road and knocking that burn down, which I mean that that's that may help a little, but it ain't going to keep it out of that house. Um in fact u that basin which was constructed I guess by private individuals either yourself or No, it was constructed by the gentleman that owned the house before the tickets.

Okay. Um in that case I need to get a um temporary construction basically permit from you guys verbal so I can move into there. We'll talk offline for sure. You got my phone number but the neighbor seems to think it might be theirs. So, we'll work that out. But either way, all I need is permission to work on that property. Again, all this is private property except for the end of Sunshine and that's a different matter. But, uh, that is the plan to clean that up, get some of the dead wood out of there to rem it, recreate it. And we can talk more offline, but I don't think that Jason's doing anybody any good either.

No, I I agree with you. It's not doing any good [clears throat] good and it will help the water move through there faster. But as I said in the first meeting, that's not the problem with my mom's. The problem is to the northeast coming from the storage sheds, the vet place. It's got worse since those were constructed. And the more construction that goes on up there, the worse it's going to be. So yes, it will help out a little bit moving it through there faster, but that has nothing to do with the amount of volume and the velocity of the water coming from the north. That's the issue.

And you gentlemen have come and we appreciate the insight. Apologies. You would not ignoring you deliberately. U I understand your mom passed. Is that right? Yeah. My condolences on behalf of the city. I don't wish to pry into your affairs. Is there a probate matter? Who's the owner of the property? I'm the power of attorney. I'm the owner now. Okay, you have full use permits. Well, again, nothing was meant to be intentionally disrespectful, anything like that. Uh, we do have a plan moving forward. We'll make sure to contact you. Thanks. Appreciate y'all.

All right. Next on the list is Cory Meers. Please state come to the podium, state your name and address and you missed the first comment. Uh there is a threeminute rule policy. Okay. So come on in front [snorts] [cough and clears throat] Myers. And what what else you want? Address.

Address. Um 22635 South K. Um I've got a this for everyone to look at. [snorts] Hope I got enough.

Do you need one or can you share? Okay. Cuz I'm out. You're right. So, this is the uh this first picture is the retention hub on off of Billy Jo. You can see trees are in there. There's not supposed to be trees in there. It's not being maintained. Um the second picture is I went over there and shot grain on these uh pipes that the that the flow of water comes out of and the elevation is this is hard to read on this picture but it's 3 foot one. The the next picture um I couldn't get my phone to work but it was 6 in higher where we shot. Um you can see this picture. This is all where that water is supposed to come out of. It's It's never been maintained. It's full of silt, trees, and debris. Um, this next picture is between 609 Caspian Drive and 611 Caspian Drive. That's a discharge pipe as well. You can see it's full. I'm sorry. That That's the wrong picture. That is not between 609 Caspian. That's off [clears throat] That's off Justin Lane. There's another one between 609 and Caspian 611. I don't have that picture, but it's full water also. Um and it goes in that same retention. This is all uh Justin W. Um and

no that is off. That is the right picture. It's full. Um this next picture shows um my subdivision, Middle Creek and Lake [snorts] and where the affected area of this easement and new pipes are going to take place. Um, on there I drew out a high uh a house site that I have on the property now. Um, I dug a basement there about four month or eight months ago and still haven't been able to get a permit for this property. Darren, I've been we've been arguing about this. Um, I went there one time and the basement was dug and he said that if I signed an easement that he give me a permit. Um, the next page, this is off Justin. It's another discharge pipe. Um, this this gentleman that owns this that houses there is Tony McCoy.

Mr. Meyer, that's three minutes. You want to finish your thought? Yeah. The next page is what Tony says. This is a text message. That's what he was told when he asked asked the city to do it. The next page is another text message from him. And the next page, I guess I don't have enough time to to go through this. We're happy to have you, Patrick. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks for coming.

[snorts] public hearing. We have none. Introduction is the first reading. Council number 2025-39, an ordinance authorizing the accept acceptance of easements on Founders Ridge lot 16 and 7. Staff report, please. [clears throat]

All right. So, what we have here is a situation where we had a a small detention basin that uh has since been removed. the developer changed engineers and in doing so he was able to get rid of a small detention basin which resided on lot one of Founders Ridge and since this was already platted um we have to uh create new ements for storing water pipe to be installed um that is to help out the drainage from lots between lots one and six, [cough] there's a new easement created that goes through lot 7 to discharge the water. So, if the board agrees with that recommendation, this ordinance should be passed, thus allowing for the dedication of the replacement drainage easements on lots, six, and seven of the found subdivision. Questions? Any questions for staff?

You've been out there eyeballed [snorts] it. It looks like the right thing to do. Yes. Yes. Getting getting rid of detention apparently. Any questions for staff? And I get a motion approving council bill number 2025-39, an ordinance authorizing the acceptance of the easement found for Founders Ridge lot 16 and 7. So move a second. Second Ramcraft.

I turn Dunwy. I on the bill. I move. Hi. [cough and clears throat] Council bill number 2025-40 an ordinance vacating drainage easements for Founders Ridge. So along with the uh replacement easements uh we need to vacate the old ones with the detention pools. [clears throat] Got it. Can I get a motion approving? Council bill number 202540, an ordinance vacating the drainage easements for found. So I have a second bill.

I recraft. I turn I Lewis. Hi. And D. Old business ordinance number 1536 an ordinance authorizing the acceptance of easements founder ridge lots 16 and 7. Second read second. We get a motion approving ordinance number 1536 an ordinance authorizing the acceptance of the eman 6 and 7. So moved. Can I get a second? Second. Home bill. Hi. Rencraft. Hi. Turner. I

ordinance 1537, an ordinance vacating the drainage easements on Founders Ridge. Second. Got it. [snorts] Can I get a motion approving ordinance number 1537, an ordinance vacating the drainage easements for Founders Ridge? So moved. Can I have a second? Second. Alcraft. I Bill. Hi. Alman Lewis. Hi. Done with you. Hi. Alman Turner. Hi. All right. Moving on. New business resolution number 2025-57, a resolution authorizing the sale of surplus property, a 1998 [clears throat] Dodge pickup on gov.deals.

Thank you, mayor of the board. Um, seeking [clears throat] authorization to sell a 1998 Dodge pickup on govdees.com. This is a a sewer department vehicle we had in inventory. uh since 1998 has 131,000 hard miles on it. Heavily rusted with numerous issues that are no longer cost effective to address. So again, I'm seeking authorization to sell the vehicle um on internet auction deals.com. This uh vehicle was replaced by a another used city vehicle in a inner department transfer when the water department bought a new truck earlier this year. So, it was replaced by a vehicle that had a few years left on it. Uh there's a picture of this Ram. Uh you have age 28 29 in your packet. It's pretty rough. Um we estimate maybe get,000 bucks worth maybe. And uh I recommend approval.

All right. Any questions for staff? I will move for the approval of I get a motion approving resolution 2025-57 a resolution authorizing the sale of surplus property 1998 Dodge pickup. Have a second. Second. All in favor? I. Resolution number 2025-58, a resolution authorizing the purchase of a lift station panels.

Thank you, mayor. Uh it's actually the purchase of three lift station panels. [clears throat] Uh the three oldest lift station control panels reside in town at Celinda Park and Justin lift stations. As the name would implies, Celinda is at the end of Celinda Park is in the middle of the city park and Justin is at the end of Justin. These are lift stations, part of the sewer collection system. These panels essentially control the operation and activate alarms in the event of a of a malfunction. These are the three oldest panels we have in inventory. They're uh late 80s early 90s vintage. Um they've outlived their expected service life uh for these kind of components. They have become troublesome, maintenance intensive and they are responsible for most of the callouts that we get uh these these three stations. These are the hot spots uh because of electrical malfunctions. There's relays can there's contactors. There's even the wiring themselves inside these panels have gotten. So, uh we we can't even track down exactly what's causing some of the malfunctions, but they're due. Um so, this is a proposal that replaces all three to modern controls and stainless steel Nema 4 um panels. They also include incoming voltage meters, that stuff on our side for safety um and for quick troubleshooting. Two quotes were obtained for this proposal and it is less than half of the uh the high quote which was $63,466. This quote for all three stations is $27,955. You can see on the uh cover sheet um they're very similar in horsepower and the only difference between these panels is the main breaker and that's the only difference in cost. You can see Celinda is a 10 horse and that's a couple hundred dollars more than the park and the Justin lift station panel.

Um, any questions? Any questions for staff? Can I get a motion approve resolution 2025-58, a resolution authorizing the purchase of three lift station panels? So moved. Second. Second. All in favor? I resolution number 2025-59, [cough] [clears throat] a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign a six-month combined financial statement. Staff report, please.

Uh, this is an annual thing that we deem for uh, our requirements under Missouri law. RSMO 79160 requires first class fourth class cities to prepare a semianual financial statement. We publish this financial statement in the local newspaper as well as our city website to ensure that residents have public access in the city's financial information provokes our transparency and meets statutory requirements. Any questions for staff? Can I get a motion approve resolution number 2025-59, a resolution authorizing the mayor to sign a sixmonth combined financial statement. So move second.

Second. All in favor. Uh, next one is report from Jeff Eller, water supervisor on emergency repair and maint expenses for water department. [clears throat]

Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of the board. I just want to give you a report on the uh emergency valve insertion that we had to we had to complete. Um, so tip on October 3rd, uh, 2025, the water department staff received a call from memory sap and zone. They were doing the tie-in. Um, they're the contractor for the developer of Gilbert Storage. Um, notifying us that we're there ready for their tie-in. Um, we went over tried shutting down some valves. Um, they weren't shutting down. Um, we shut down, fast forward through some of this. I mean, um, we we shut down as many as as 21 valves. Um, they weren't shutting down. Um, we couldn't get it below 25 PSI. Um, and you're not going to be able to to do anything with that. There's just going to be too much water coming in to do anything. Um, and so we uh we contacted a company on Thursday, November 6th, MB Construction. They're out of Monaceel, Missouri. Um, they specialize in valve insertion. Um, what I mean by valve insertion is that means a like in this instance, there is a 12-in live main that water is flowing through and they do it live. You're not shutting any water down. Um, you have no customers out of water while they're doing it. Um, like I said, MB construction crew arrived at 8 a.m. Um, on the 11th, um, they completed the 12-in main insertion in about 2 and 1/2 hours. Um, and then we also did another 8 in valve insertion just south of there so that we could have more isolation. Um, and that one

took them roughly about 3 hours. Um uh city crews also performed all the the excavation um and that saved us quite a bit of money when it come to digging it with the mobilization piece. Um uh let's see these insertions uh ensure that Henry SAP can complete their tie in and also ensure the city staff and have the ability to discontinue water service to the affected area um if the city should need to do so for any future repair work or service extensions. Um the insertion of the two new valves allows us to isolate sections of the main that we we weren't able to. Um and we found out that we were unable to isolate the valve due the valves being faulty. Um I don't know if faulty is the correct word, but uh either way the valves aren't closing down on the pipe enough to keep water from [clears throat] flowing. Um but uh the new valves uh will allow us to isolate like I said the north tower from the north of it and the south of it. Um the number of valves like I said were 21. Um so that will be I will be putting that in my CIP budget for next year. Um whether that's replacing all 21 or you know six, it just kind of depends on what we what we get into whenever we start going through. Um

so what is the life expectancy on these valves and how long have we had them?

Uh these were these were all done in 95 um all the way down North Henry Clay. um life expectancy. I don't know that there's an actual like x number of years. I mean, they some could be 10, some could be 50. Um and I'll tell you, we have some that are over 50 in this town, but it's there's not really a set like 20 years. Um, so unfortunately there isn't for the case like this that we could say, "Oh, well, they're 25 or 30 years old. They should be we should be able to get them to 40." And we we can't. So, um, in the report, I did put in um some pictures. Uh, I did label it. the the first ones there, the 12 in valve insertions um before like [clears throat] as they're doing it and then afterwards when it was completely done. Um this isn't finished grade. We will have to go back once it settles and clean it all back up, but I want to let it settle first before we just go in there and start, you know, dragging over anything. Um and then like I said, the other one is the 8 in valve insertion. And then beyond beyond that is a map. Um that is our GIS mapping system that we have. Those are a map. There's two of them there of all the valves that were shut down to try to get this to to stop and it would. So, um, with that being said, um, I wanted to let you know there will be a budget adjustment, um, to reallocate the $25,680

from, uh, capital equipment and it will go to capital expenditures to cover the cost of the two valve insertions. Uh, this this adjustment does not increase total expenditures um, for the fiscal year. period is simply a reallocation of funds to appropriate the budget for the line for the payment. Thanks, sir. [clears throat]

Moving on to reports. Um, mayor's report. All I have is from the park board. They just want everybody to know that the uh Christmas parade is on December 13th. If you plan to attend, please sign up. Moving on administrative report. No reports tonight. State terms report. No report. Police chiefs monthly. Thank you. Over the course of the last few meetings, you all authorized the liquidation of some property. We had a radar trailer and a blown up engine police car and a and a pile of MDTs. And we've got all those sold now. [clears throat] I actually did just fine on them. We got 2150 bucks. So those computers, which surprised me. Um, other than that, you should you should have our stat report in your packet. We're coming right along as far as I know. Again, that's always a little bit scary, but you know, people ask me how I'm doing, so they haven't heard. We're doing well. So, as far as I know, everything's okay.

Are we fully staffed now? We are. Y. Thanks, sir. What'd you get for the blown up car? $775. Yeah. And they got to come pick it up. So, we got uh 2150 out of the computers and then what? 650 for the radar trailer. That sounds right. Yeah. Yeah. And oddly enough, it's actually going to continue on as a radar trailer. It's going to a boy scout camp

with apparently have extensive private road network that they need people to slow down on. And so, they think they've got they won't it won't be able to do the data collection it used to do, but they think they'll be able to have it just as a visual return. So, Still a good useful life. Good job. Thanks, sir. Any questions?

So, Chief, I have one question for you. U So, as you know, I did a ride along last week and I was talking to multiple of the officers throughout and they mentioned that probably the greatest need for the police force as we continue to grow as a city is having two officers on every shift. And some of them spoke of like, you know, having instances where they were in a physical altercation and then having 30 minutes to wait pretty much on backup to arrive. How immediate do you see us immediately do you see us needing a second officer on every patrol? And what would that how how will that impact your budget if we

It's interesting that you mentioned this because I've not had meetings with Mr. Michael yet, but that is something I'm going to present this year. I quite frankly from what I understand of the budget, I don't think it's realistic. that we can do it. Uh but I think that I have a responsibility to share that need. But the the the issue we have the it's not a matter of call load, right? We can [snorts] the officers we have we can handle the calls that come in that what crime we have. We can handle all that. The problem we have is that I hate to use it, there is no national standard, but it generally um in larger departments calls that they mandatory send two officers to we have frequently have officers run by themselves and that's just kind of the nature of the beast. Our partners uh Boon County Sheriff's Department is wonderful. Um they help us every chance they get and with every resources they have. Same with the highway patrol. But, you know, at any given point in time, there's one trooper working in Boone County, maybe two. Um, it's a long way from here to the north end of the county. Um, and as you know, it's a longer way now than it used to be, at least for another couple of years till they get all the construction fixed. And, uh, same thing with Boone County. You know, there's there's, uh, at any given point in time, there may be one deputy south of, uh, Highway 63 or two. Just just depends on how their calls are handled. those guys they have to cover a lot of ground and so sometimes it takes a long time but and so it is scary I'm terrified of it every day um you know odds are in our favor but I think we still have a responsibility to start ju just like we we talked about with the uh transport the the the transportation plan that we'd all love to snap our fingers and see we don't have the gazillions of dollars to do it won't happen if we don't start talking about it so that is one of the things I'm going to present uh this year uh to Mr. Michael as the board the longer term strategic plan of how to start thinking that way of getting to the point and for us to do

that I think it would require a minimum of four officers and the odd thing about our business is being 247 you know if you run a 8 to5 Monday through Friday business and you need to add one body you can hire one body well when you're running 247 365 if everything goes right it takes six people you have to hire six employees to add one spot And you do the math, right? Because they you got to cover the weekends, you got to cover 24 hours, you got to cover Christmas. And um ultimately to add one body 24 hours a day, you have to hire six police officers.

And obviously, and unfortunately, I know the chief knows this, the most expensive municipal employees behind paramedics are policemen. I mean, the real world costs, salary, training, insurance, equipment, they're very, very expensive. I mean, $100,000 is not an unreasonable amount of money per officer, and that's, you know, all told, all in. It's $188,000 just to equip and pay one officer for one year. And that doesn't count the cost of vehicles, vehicle maintenance, cost of living increases. Uh, in some cases, they have to have equipment replaced yearly. Um, training, those are all additional costs to that.

It's terribly expensive. So very much so expensive. The chief and I have both been working on this. We will have come up with a capital improvement plan. We cannot do anything until we get more commercial income coming in. You have to understand city of Ashlin is not rich by any means. We have currently $8 million in the bank that we can actually use and that is one year of service for the city. So the issue of us agreeing that it would be better to have more is easy, right? We'll all be able to do that. Um is there one particular shift that uh is more problematic? You know, if you started to slowly build it, you know,

I don't I don't think so. Um I I think if if you were to if you could somehow give me two more right now, they'd be on nights. We would we would add people at night. Um because there just are a few extra um I mean I'm around in the daytime more than I'm around at night. That's true of the county has processed servers that type. There's just a few more bodies in the daytime that can be available. Um and and so and of course in general on on average there's more violent crime at night than there is in the daytime. So that would be the statistically the smart place to do it. And again I I don't want to give the wrong impression. We're keeping up with the work right that's coming in. that that's not the difficulty. Um the scary thing is just from a safety standpoint in the in the longer term and and even though you you wouldn't know it again watching the news, but the actual uh fatality rate for small police departments is no lower than big police departments. It's pretty steady all the way across from huge departments down to small ones. The fatality rate is about the same. And so um you know, still legitimate safety concerns that that I have for these young young men and women out there. And I know we all share that. [clears throat]

I appreciate you riding along. The guys were very complimentary. The guys and gals said had good questions and yeah, very good. Thank you. We had a great time. Very positive experience. Appreciate it. Let you run the siren. [laughter] I told her, "Let's drive." [cough and clears throat] She told me you couldn't do that. [laughter] You're not sure. Sorry. It's okay. I don't think I want that responsibility. Uh, do we have any questions? More questions. Thank you. Appreciate. Thank you. Community development director's in your packet. Anybody have any questions about it?

Yeah. When can I schedule a ride along for community [laughter] development? Anytime. Anytime. that you're allowed anytime. You just can't dry. [laughter] Thanks. Let me know. All right, moving on. Treasure report.

My report is in the packet. Somebody asked about uh staffing. Uh we recently hired I Case. He's been hired as the wastewater supervisor, a newly created full-time position responsible for overseeing the wastewater treatment plant. He started on November 17th. We're very happy to have him. He comes with great references and awesome credentials. Uh Archie Hendren has been hired as a utility worker, one in the streets division. Uh we converted a two position into a one position. So they are now fully staffed. Uh and he's expected to start December 1st. Both of these gentlemen came from the city of Colombia. Both of them have 20 plus years of experience. Um so we are very excited to have them. Uh Megan Young uh who was the police clerk for the last 16 years requested and was granted a transfer to the utility billing administrative assistant position. Um she began her new role on November 13th. Uh the only position that we currently have a vacancy for is police clerk and the chief and I are looking into um either reorganizing that position or maybe keeping it the same. We're not quite sure yet. It's but he has two applicants uh that he'll be interviewing. Um so we'll have more on that.

All right. Any questions for moving on board report? Uh the only thing somebody brought to my attention on Pacer Drive when you turn off Mark Crump and you enter it, there's a big hole. You go all down Pacer and it's a mess. But on down at the very end by Justin, there's two big holes. They said they thought they was going to break the axle on their car the other day and I drove down it today and they're not kidding. There are some holes. pretty nice size. [snorts] That's all I have.

Thank you, Ar. Uh, just like I talked about earlier, did the ride along and encourage all of my colleagues to try that if you haven't. Um, really reassures you how great of officers we have in Ashlin. So, I'm really thankful for that opportunity. We have been invited. What? So, we have been invited. I wasn't invited myself. Oh, well, there you go. You're all invited. Oh, well, yeah. Now, now you tell us. [laughter] They're still out there. Alma Lewis, no report. Almond, no report.

I just want to thank the city staffs and board of all men for coming to the ABC pizza night. It's a big success and I know the the organization really appreciates the turnout and uh that's my report. Thanks, sir. All right. Now, we're going to general comments from the public. Is there any comments? public would like to make, please state your name and address. Hi, I'm Charles Crannle live at 607 Chasing Circle. I understand I got three minutes, right?

Um, I got a lot to say, but this is not form for it, but I just want to clarify something to draw attention to some of you who don't know me, don't know the situation about the Caspian uh circle storm water project. If you look at those pictures that Cory gave to you, the first two need some clarification. So that first pipe is a picture of the pipe that runs north and south at the end of the detention basin. And what's uh interesting about that is when the project was redone in 2014, I believe u that detention basin was about 4 ft deeper, had defined walls, you know, on either side and it retained water. That second picture on page two shows the discharge pipe that comes into his house. [snorts] when that pipe as you look at that pipe, the pipe is touching the ground. Okay. And I was shocked. I didn't see I hadn't seen that myself until just a couple weeks ago when I met with the city and the engineers at my property. I wish you all could have been there. I do appreciate the uh city administrator and the mayor for making that. Problem is when this was originally built and designed, that pipe was 2 ft off the ground and it opened up into a spillway. Right now, that spillway is covered in trees. That pipe is on the ground. It's filled in. The problem with this is, and I understand it's the city's intention to abandon this existing infrastructure. This infrastructure worked when it was put in place. Okay? It doesn't work now because the city, and it's nobody's responsibility here. None of you were here at the time that this was built,

right? So, I'm not casting blame or disparagement, but what I am saying is this system worked when it was built as it was intended. The city failed to maintain it and so it doesn't work now. 2021, we had a major rain event for the first time. I've been in that house since 2003, so 21 year or 2004. 21 years now. For the first time in 2021, I got water in my basement garage. And what happened was the water came through. The surface water came through. Water from the detention basin came through. It wasn't able to exit. If we have another rain event like this, not only am I going to get flooded, but this is going to get flooded, too. And there were witness to it. What I didn't recognize at the time because I hadn't been over there is that this, as I said, this pipe is on the ground, right? It should be on the ground. And so the city's getting ready to embark on a new project. They're going to uh tear down 300 ft of of mature trees, fencing, etc., and put three 40in pipes on the northern part of my property. I already have two 30-in pipes and a drop inlet in that yard. I encourage all of you come over and look at it for yourselves.

Sir, can I get the last thoughts? Yes, appreciate it. I don't think that we need to do that project. I think what we need to do is save them money, redirect that that grant money into other storm water areas and fix this problem. If you fix this problem, we might be able to use that money other ways in other areas. So, I encourage you to please come over my house, give me a call. Mayor's got my phone number, Mr. Michael's got my phone number, you got my phone number. You're welcome, too. and I'll walk you through it and I'll give you the 21 year history on this. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Any other comments?

Travis Lacader, 605 Captain Circle. So, this this whole storm water drain is in our backyard. [clears throat] And we originally [snorts] came here to get an answer on who was supposed to maintain it because the next three houses are trees that are 20 ft tall, cattails. I mean, it's the water is standing. It's a mosquito swamp and it's never been maintained. And that was our original plea was to find out who who's supposed to maintain this. Is it the yard owners that that their yard, their property goes back to? Or is it up to the city? Is there an easement? And we've never gotten an answer. And then fast forward, we get a a a notice on our door. We're going to begin construction. So, we're going to tear out your fences. And my first question is, what about our dogs? What if we have kids? Are we going to have temporary fences? There was no immediate. And I think it's because there's it's been going on for so long. There's new people involved in this. But the common sense of it that I see is if you don't change your oil in any of the maintenance vehicles or any of your vehicles in the city and they all blow up, we're back to the same common sense issue. Well, we didn't we didn't maintain them. So now we don't have anything. That's what we have here. It was not maintained and like Calvin said, not because of your fault, but he's seen it from the very beginning and he's watched it work. And there then there's two large pipes. So the consensus to fix it is to add three more pipes and take out this mature row of trees. And when I asked the engineers, okay, will this work? What if it doesn't? Their answer was, well, if it doesn't, we'll go to plan B. So I said, well, if I get water in my house, are you going to be responsible? And they said, no, it's an act of God. So we're going to be losing all of our real estate and our tree line and the the the help of the erosion. And the engineers don't have in mind that Cory built a lake there and a burum that completely takes all of the water that's on that whole entire mass property that

was Fisher property and diverts it down past this pipe. And you can see it in my yard where where the silt gently cuts through the corner and goes into there. So all of this pipe, everything that it would be catching, everything from that field and and they told me while it was videoed that none of that was taken into consideration in the equation that came up with the pipes, the underground pipes for right now. So we've never been notified. I mean, really, it only affects us,

Calvin and Cy. And Cory put the burm up to take the water off because we were concerned that he put the subdivision in. So everybody has or he has made I think adequate maneuver to to keep the water off and it hasn't been brought into the equation. So the equation that the engineers have come up with can't be correct. And this is by the way something that Crockett engineer have already engineered and the city built and it worked and now we have all state saying well this is what has to happen. So, is it to say that Crocket Engineering was wrong? Or did we just not maintain what was supposed to be maintained? We just don't want to lose our trees, its property, its value, it's erosion control, you know, especially if it's not necessary and we do it and and then we're told it didn't work, so we're going to have to go again because I've shot the grade.

Last stop, sir. So, there is very little grade beyond where the pipes stop. The engineering is where the pipes are. And when I ask, what is the plan to clean this up? I was told that the city has a plan, but I don't I don't know what that plan is or what the maintenance schedule would be, but as of right now, it's not going to do any good. It's going to spend a bunch of money. You're going to have nothing, and then we're still going to have this flooding problem and we're going to be back here again. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Todd, do we know who is legally responsible for maintaining this detention area? I

I I hesitate to answer. Um there is a it's a city right away. It's an easement. It's on their property. It's our pipe. We generally maintain that pipe in terms of the surface area. Uh I'm happy to give a legal opinion, but I don't want to do that off the cuff, but certainly able to provide these folks with a confident opinion. I'm confident it's our pipe. We have to maintain the pipe. As to the state of the the soil and trees and so on above it, uh that's a more complicated question. If you wouldn't mind to take a look into that and give us an answer, um because I would like to address [snorts] their concerns at all possible. We can do that.

Any other comments from the public? Can I get a motion to go in close session to discuss chapter 610-021 legal actions in hiring and firing discipline from move second? Second term. Hi

[clears throat] At this time we are back in the open session and we have nothing to report. Have a motion to adjourn. So move second. All in favor? I